2 RAGE QUITS! $12,000,000 A Year BARE MINIMUM?! Do Modern Girls Deserve Chivalry? | Dating Talk #256

Date: 2025-08-18

Duration: 7h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Model)>

RRose (Sovereign)>

SSelena (Bottle)>

MMichelle (55)>

AAndrew Wilson >

AAmelia (Swinger)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Sonia(guest)

SPEAKER_04Selena (Bottle)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lauren (Model)(guest)

SPEAKER_06KJ(guest)

SPEAKER_08Aya (Casino)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Amelia (Swinger)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Michelle (55)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Rosie ($12M)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 11 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentRosie states $12M/year BARE MINIMUM for husband income

Key MomentAndrew: 'women think they ARE the table' when asked what they bring

Key MomentBrian reveals he's developing 'Tally' app for men to log women's body counts

OtherFirst rage quit: KJ leaves during religious debate with Andrew

Key MomentSonia: locked in closet, starved, hit by car by abusive Discord boyfriend. Escaped by hacking security cameras.

QuoteSonia: did Carl Weezer voice during sexual act. Man still calls every Saturday.

Topics Discussed

Relationship Status Roundtable

11 guests including Sonia (asexual, chess 2300 ELO) and Rosie ($12M minimum).

Income Requirements

Rosie: $12M/year bare minimum. Rose: 'dirt poor.' Michelle: $100K.

What Women Bring to the Table

Andrew: women think they ARE the table. No one says 'virtue.'

Bear vs Man / Uber Analogy

Brian draws racial discrimination parallel to gender safety preference.

Body Count and Past

Andrew proposes 'Her' app for body counts. Brian developing 'Tally' app.

KJ Rage Quit

KJ leaves during religious debate with Andrew.

Sonia Abuse Story

Locked in closet, starved, hit by car, forced heroin by Discord boyfriend. Escaped by hacking security.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilson>> Oh god. >> The years for the third crusade. I don't know. >> Don't look at your chat. >> I don't know. I don't know. I just said I don't know. I don't know. >> That one was the 18. >> Okay, good talk. Uh >> yeah, good talk.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> You know, I feel like mine was easier. >> Probably. Probably a little easier. >> I feel like mine was pretty easy. You know, you're like, "Oh, yeah. Who is the king? the third crusade. >> Yeah. Who was the third pope, Andrew? Um,

Andrew Wilson>> who was the third pope? Yeah. >> Wait, was was uh the Crusades? Is that considered antiquity or is that >> uh No, that's I don't think that's antiquity. I do remember in the Crusades I think it was King Richard maybe for

Brian Atlasthe Third Crusade. I just don't remember the years. >> Deisol. Anyways, so uh let's see here. Where were we? Oh, the questionnaire of course. Oh, no, no, no. The >> See, we don't just pick on you guys. for

Brian Atlaspicking on each other, too. >> Oh, yeah. Like, I just got totally smoked on the Korean War. Totally destroyed. BTFO. Um, >> no. Okay. I feel like you won that over the Crusades, but my I feel like my question was a little bit easier.

SPEAKER_00>> Yeah, you gave me It was definitely easier. We have Pasty George here. Thank you, man. >> Pasty George donated $200. My mother once passed kidney stones and

SPEAKER_00had a gallbladder attack at the same time. And she said she would rather give birth to three babies than go through that type of pain. >> Yikes. >> Oh wow. Okay. >> Horrible. >> Oh yeah, that's rough.

Brian Atlas>> Thank you, Pasty. Thank you, uh, Pasty. Um, how about this really quick? Last I don't know where Okay, we're talking about war, I guess. Last thing on the war.

Brian AtlasName one axis power and one allied power for World War II. One axis power, one allied power. >> What the [ __ ] does that mean?

Brian Atlas>> Access power. >> How about this? >> Access bad allied good guys. >> Yeah, that's that's a lot less ambiguous.

Lauren (Model)>> Oh, like an American guy. >> So like American and um >> is it German? It's one of them. Germans were the bad ones. Okay. So, yeah. Allied American.

Brian AtlasYeah. >> US Axis Germany. >> There's there was some other belligerance though in this conflict. Oh, >> of course. >> So, you you can't repeat. >> We're not going to be able to do all the girls here, but I was going to say,

Brian Atlas>> yeah, there cuz I I won't expect you to guys name some of the more minor belligerents in the war. >> I have no idea. >> One allied power, one axis power. You can't repeat hers. >> I literally don't know. Like, I

Selena (Bottle)>> World War II I don't know. I can't think of anything. >> World War II. Can't say USA. Can't say Germany.

Brian Atlas>> Say Fran. France. >> History lesson right now. >> France as allied power. >> Okay. And then Russia >> as ex >> I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> No. Well, >> technically was uh well, Russia was allied at the end of the war. There was like wasn't there non-aggression pact between Germany and Russia for a period of the war?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Wait, was Russia was not >> access though at any point? Correct. >> Well, >> like it wasn't access >> once the war was over.

Lauren (Model)>> Is that correct? Once >> once the war was over and they took control over Berlin, though Russia had a piece of it, America had a piece of

Brian AtlasBerlin. Uh and I I don't remember what the other >> Who flip-flopped? Greece. Was it Greece who flip-flopped? >> I don't know. >> Who flip-flopped? I don't know. Okay. Uh >> um

SPEAKER_01>> one allied power >> ally I think I would say Great Britain. >> Okay. at one access power >> Japan. >> Okay, >> we'll do we'll see if we can get one more. What about you?

Lauren (Model)>> I know Italy, Mussolini. That was bad. >> Okay, access one now. >> Um and I'm trying to think of another one. I mean, let's go with uh Did we say Britain

Lauren (Model)already? >> Yeah, we did. We said Britain. We said France. We said um Switzerland was in the middle, right? >> Neutral. >> Yeah, neutral. Okay. Um,

Brian Atlas>> good times. Good times. All right. Off of the war stuff. Off of the war. >> Uh, let's see. Moving on with the questionnaire. One sec, guys.

Brian AtlasUh, I mean, there's really not too much here. Um, how about this? Adult age gap relationships are wrong. Example, 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old. Lauren, you agree? I don't know if anybody else agrees.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you were against >> that. It's wrong. >> You Yeah, you said it was Oh, you're fine with age gap. >> Oh, as long as you know of age. >> Oh, yeah. Of course. We're talking about adult relationships. >> Of course. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Lauren (Model)>> You're fine with age gaps. So, 35 dating 25 20. >> That's not bad. Yeah. I mean, my last like guy that I was seeing, I think he was uh 12 years older. >> Okay. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Going to Emily or actually moving down the list. A woman's passion not matter. To which Emily Selena, oh my god, bro. You got to put

Brian Atlasyour actual Okay, whatever. Uh, you agree. Woman's passion not matter, Rosie. A woman's past should not matter. And that's it. Uh, so starting with you, Rosie. Why should a woman's past not

Brian Atlasmatter? >> Rose. Rosie. Hey, what was it? >> Oh, oh my god. Sorry. Uh, you're right. A woman's pass should not matter. Body count. Why do you say that? Why do you agree? >> Oh, that it that it doesn't matter or

Brian Atlasdoesn't. >> God damn, bro. Is reading comprehension directions. If you bold and underlined agree with the statement, circle the number.

Rosie ($12M)>> Sorry. >> So, do you think should should a woman's past matter? >> I know to a guy it does, but >> Okay.

Rosie ($12M)Like to me, I mean, I look like I look at it as like that's my past, but I know to a guy it's like y'all look at that as

Rosie ($12M)a way of like how to move with me or move with a female, if that makes sense. >> Okay. So, you acknowledge that men do care about this, but they shouldn't essentially. >> No, they can care about whatever they

Rosie ($12M)want to. Me personally, I just look at like how I'm moving from the future cuz everyone has a past. But >> Mhm. >> I know men look at that. >> Sure. Okay. And then

Selena (Bottle)>> like I'm just confused. For example, it's like why should one like a woman's past matter but not a man? Like if a man does this, it's like okay, cool. Let's praise him. But then if a woman has like two or three boyfriends or whatever

Selena (Bottle)beforehand, it's like, oh my god, she's like a hoe. So it kind of goes both ways in terms of it being like sexist. But like I said, it should matter like what you're doing with that person beforehand. I mean at the current

Selena (Bottle)moment, not like the past. Cuz then I could judge a man on their past, too. And a man's past, I'm not saying for everybody, is normally worse because especially in my city, Vegas, I can like, if I know one person, I can name

Brian Atlaslike freaking 50 girls they've been with. They can name one guy I've been with and it's like, "Oh my god, she's a hoe." >> I mean, I'm fine with as women, if your standard is you don't want to date men who've they themselves have a high body

Brian Atlascount, there's I don't have a double standard there. Women can absolutely have that standard. >> They can be like, I don't want to date a [ __ ] boy or a guy who's [ __ ] a bunch of chicks. Totally fine. >> The thing is >> I think women care less about it. Go

Rosie ($12M)ahead. >> I think men care about women's past and women care about men's futures. >> True. >> I I like that. >> Very true. >> How do you even really know someone's body count?

Andrew Wilson>> You know, like they're like a like a notebook written list. Like nobody >> You could ask him. >> Are you saying that most women are dishonest? >> Ooh. >> I think men are very dishonest as well.

Selena (Bottle)Yeah, but that's not what I asked you. Do you think most women are dishonest? >> I mean, 50/50 probably. I'm sure some are honest. I'm sure some >> So, you think I Do you think that 50% of women wouldn't lie about their body

Selena (Bottle)count? >> I think I think corner like >> No, no. I mean, I think some would lie. >> I think >> Yeah. 50%. More

Selena (Bottle)>> may less. It really just depends. I know some girls that got tables like >> they'll say they have two and I'm like I can know 13. So I'm like what are you lying about? But they're just going to continue to do that in ter in terms like in front of

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. It sounds like you don't think women are very honest. That's what it sounds like. So anytime a woman answers this way like how would you even know? It makes me think that they think well women must lie about this quite a bit.

Lauren (Model)They must lie about it quite a bit. >> Probably lie. But >> I definitely have a friend who, you know, has probably a few hundred bodies and will tell men that that she only has three.

Lauren (Model)>> Yeah, I have a friend. >> And they use it as a technique. I know. They definitely use it as a technique. So, >> she's a [ __ ] and she knows it. >> She's a [ __ ] and she knows it.

Andrew Wilson>> Ridiculous. You want you want to know what the the like billion dollar idea is for any any guys listening who who are in tech, >> just start a website called her.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> Uh and then every single time a dude plows, he can go and put his name and say Humpter and then you can just have a reference to their actual body count. So

Andrew Wilsonyou just look them up on a website called her. I and by the way I think that like half the half the world of men would probably become members overnight. You just charge them like I don't know four bucks a month or something like that and I bet you you would make a

Brian Atlasgajillion dollars. >> How can they verify that they actually have slept with that woman and they're not just defamatorily doing it. But I like it. I like it. >> It's the same way all these apps like are we dating the same guy or te how do

Andrew Wilsonyou verify that the women on that [ __ ] are actually telling the truth? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. You don't know. You don't know. But the thing is is like I'm willing to take their word for it. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. I'll just take the guy's word for it.

Rosie ($12M)>> Just take his word for it. >> You should believe men. We should believe all men, >> right? >> I believe all men. Yes. >> Believe all men. >> Men actually like believe men. >> They tell you exactly what they want.

Rosie ($12M)And most of the time people don't listen. So I feel like a man will tell a woman exactly what he wants. But sometimes we get delusional. >> Well, it goes both ways. >> Yeah. cuz I'll tell a man exactly what

Andrew Wilsonsome don't. I tell them exactly what I want and sometimes they don't. You know, >> you know. >> Yeah. Maybe you could put like little, you know what you could do? You could actually you could use a star rating like they do on Amazon for like if pe if people give good ratings. So like if

Andrew Wilsonthey add details like she had a birthark, she had a tattoo. She had a this, she had a that. And then that those those things get rated. So you can become like a fivestar reviewer, right, of women and be like, "Well, okay. So

Brian Atlasnow we can trust you that you probably did plow this chick. I think you're on to something here. I kind of like it. I think it's fun. >> Uh, actually, Andrew, that thing you're talking about, I'm developing it. Nick,

Brian Atlasdo you have an Instagram tab pulled up? >> Okay. Go to the chat. You're going to go to the the mod chat. There's an >> No, no, no. Instagram. >> Okay. Messages. >> Message tab. Mod chat.

Brian Atlas>> Gotcha. >> It's in primary folder. There's an X link that I just sent. You're going to pull that up here. Felicity, can you read this while he's doing that?

Lauren (Model)>> Oh my god. [ __ ] there. >> If a man told you that he stood by and watched 30 women get beaten, didn't join in, just watched, but said he'd protect you if something happened, would you

Soniabelieve him? Sounds should his past not matter? >> I don't know. If I'm in a relationship with him, yes, because then he would have my full trust. But if I'm not, no.

Michelle (55)Because your past shows. >> Well, where would his integrity be? >> Didn't even call the police >> because he let that happen and now

Michelle (55)you're trusting him to protect you. Wouldn't the integrity integrity be across the board? I mean, for me, like, if I see, say, a man's getting beat up

Soniaby 30 women, I'm not going to join in. I'm going to watch. I'm not going to protect the man. I'm going to run the other direction because I'm scared. That's just me. I don't get in fights. So, he might have the same. He might not

Soniawant to join in. He might want to watch. He might be in shock. You never know. >> Yeah. >> It just matters what they were feeling in that moment. >> Go ahead, Nick. Pull it up. >> I think it

Brian Atlas>> uh So, Andrew, this is what I'm developing. Uh, this is my ex. I'm pleased to announce the development of my mobile app, Tally, a male only dating safety app where men tally the body counts of women.

Lauren (Model)>> So, that's in development, boys. Um, >> what has our society? >> So, I don't get to see what my what my score is. >> No, only men can access it. >> Well, that's sad. >> Great. Minds think alike. >> Yeah.

Lauren (Model)>> Yeah. It's it's in the works. I'm developing it right now. >> Very sad. Did you use Chachi BT to develop the app? because I heard that chatb5 you will develop apps for you now. >> Oh yeah,

Brian Atlas>> it's all AI generated. So like uh you know but we we're not going to like end up we have very robust security like infrastructure in place. So like the the female app that t with the leak where all the women

Brian Atlas>> okay >> got their [ __ ] leaked. Nah. >> Anyways, whatever. Uh okay. Uh I need to wait until she's back to get to that. Actually a couple more questions. Uh, Selena. Yeah, we're waiting on

Lauren (Model)Selena. A woman's pass should not matter. Anybody else? Nobody. Okay. >> I think I see why it matters though because, you know, it's not only just

Lauren (Model)like their past, but what they've learned from their past because I think that there's a certain degree, not many people are capable of doing it, but change does happen. If you can recognize

Lauren (Model)your past, >> learn from it, I think that you will attract a better caliber of person, but I do think that your past does have a determining factor in what you can and are willing to accept in your life.

Andrew Wilson>> Got it. I'm going to get into some some of the pre-show notes, but we're going to come back. >> Would I manifest that then, Brian? >> Yeah, 100%. You can manifest. >> I must I must have manifested that the app tally be made because I was just thinking about that the other day. So,

Brian Atlasand now it's here. So, I manifested it. Manifestation >> beautiful powers. Good job, guys. >> Manifestation baddy. Um, Rose dated a scammer who bought you whatever you wanted. Who's that? That's you.

Lauren (Model)>> Yeah. >> Okay. What how was he a scammer? >> Um, he was just into some some gang [ __ ] I don't even know. He he was able to like fake um doctor prescriptions and

Lauren (Model)like I literally watched this man call in to the Publix and order a [ __ ] prescription bottle of lean. Go pick it up. And I don't know. It was just crazy. >> How long? Wait. Uh how long were you dating him for?

Brian Atlas>> Um probably 3 months. >> Oh, this is the three month. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> This is the longest. Just to be clear, the the guy who you dated for the

Brian Atlaslongest period of time ever was a scammer. It sounds like a drug user. >> Pretty much. Yeah. >> Uh committing various felonies. Like I'm pretty sure it's a felony to >> Oh, yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Rock on. >> Like make a false doctor's prescription. >> Definitely. And this was the high vibrational manifestation you were >> well um >> or was this before the manifestation?

Lauren (Model)>> Well, this is actually it was part of my journey. It was very important for me. >> Oh, Andrews loves that that journey. It's huge. >> Yeah, it was a big awakening for me because I used to think that [ __ ] was cool and you know that's kind of why I

Lauren (Model)got with him in the first place and this was like the turning point when I realized okay maybe I don't want this for my life >> um and I don't agree with the things that he was doing and um >> and ever since then I've

Lauren (Model)>> stayed to myself you know focused on my myself. Yeah. >> Okay. Um >> absolutely >> you and he bought you whatever you wanted. So, what um >> pretty much I mean I I'm not somebody who wants a lot of things, but

Lauren (Model)>> he bought you like Chick-fil-A and [ __ ] >> Uh yeah. Uh I don't I'm not a fan of the fast food, but yeah, he would take me >> vegan. >> Uh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, I'm not vegan. I'm not >> Okay. Uh you said you were only dating for marriage.

Lauren (Model)>> Uh yes. >> Okay. Was this even your position when you were dating the scammer guy? Um, it was generally like, but um, I think I was just too naive to really follow through with that standard I had for

Brian Atlasmyself. >> You wrote here that you believe premarital sex doesn't exist. From your take on the Bible, it sounds like once you have sex, you are married to someone spiritually. >> Yeah.

Lauren (Model)>> But also have you have a secular position on why it's important to preserve yourself. >> I also wrote this a long time ago. This was like months ago, by the way. So, um, >> so that changed. Um maybe the secular

Lauren (Model)position, but anyways. >> Oh, okay. Well, what about the other stuff? That's still >> Yeah, like I grew up Catholic and in a Christian church as well, and whenever I'd read the passages, I couldn't quote

Lauren (Model)it directly, but um it's along the lines of when you um when you marry someone, then you're able to have sex with them, right? Like when when you have the divine union.

Lauren (Model)Andrew, can you help me out? I'm sure you know more about this than me. like where what exactly? >> It's your view. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> I just want I just want to convey it properly because I don't have the the scripture.

Andrew Wilson>> You can look you can paraphrase. It's fine to paraphrase. Okay. No, I'm not going to No one's going to beat you up because you don't know the exact >> Well, knowing you guys anyways, >> that's Yeah, that's hard to uh it's hard to memorize stuff like that.

Lauren (Model)>> The general idea in the church is like wait till marriage to have sex. You know, go through this union and connection. >> So, are you waiting until marriage to

Lauren (Model)have sex? Um, at this point, yes. Like it's okay. So, I didn't finish my view. So, the way that I reinterpreted the Bible was that when two souls Stop

Lauren (Model)shaking your head. Let me finish. When two souls can join, that is the communion right there. That is the marriage. >> How many people have you married? >> Uh, no comment. I mean, if you really

Andrew Wilsonwant to know, but like >> Sure. Tell me how many how many you've married? Three people? >> Yes. Three. So you're you're a political >> Now hang on now hang on >> because we have to be specific here.

Andrew Wilson>> The three marriages are the conjoining of the soul. But has there been any encounters that you've had which are not the conjoining of the soul? >> No. >> But you still Okay. So this means body

Andrew Wilsoncount total is three. >> Are you talking about [ __ ] >> Do you want to talk about [ __ ] >> Yeah. So, I mean, are you still are you still married to all of these people?

Brian Atlas>> Um, I feel like it definitely took a toll on my um spiritual well-being for sure. >> Yeah, I know. But are you still married to them, though? >> Wait, when's the last time? Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Answer Andrew's question. >> What What was the question, Andrew? >> Are you still married to all of these

Lauren (Model)people? >> Um, kind of like that's not um I guess it depends on how I view it in my my mental space. >> When's the last time you were married?

Lauren (Model)um long time ago. Like a year ago. >> A year ago. Okay. So, you've been celibate for a year. >> Pretty much. >> What do you mean pretty much? >> Well, it depends on your um definition

Lauren (Model)of celibate because if I'm not mistaken, the actual term celibate means abstaining from sex period in this lifetime. Um celibacy. Are you familiar with that?

Lauren (Model)>> Well, just abstaining from sex, >> right? Like like not it's not like, oh, I'm celibate for a week. It's like celibacy is like, >> "No, you can be celibate for a week." >> Are you sure? Can we pull that up? Like I'm pretty sure.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Well, we'll grant that it's certainly the case for a year or so. It's been a year. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, hold on.

Brian AtlasAnd then, so you are waiting until marriage before you engage in marriage. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not I'm not going to

Lauren (Model)>> I think Well, let me explain it. I'm not going to um perform that act unless it's somebody that is of my standard of husband, >> right? Like somebody somebody that somebody that is somebody that could

Andrew Wilsonpossibly be the father of my children, right? I'm not going to [ __ ] around with somebody who's not worthy of >> get married again and you go through the legal process and this type of thing. Are you committing adultery on your

Andrew Wilsonother husbands? >> I'm not getting married um legally. That's not in the vision. >> Okay. So, so you never get married legally, but you just get married via the soul to the next guy. Are you

Lauren (Model)committing adultery? >> Um, I guess so. Yeah. In your religion? Yes. >> No. In your view? >> Um, in my view, no. >> Okay. But you just said that you were married to all. >> Well, we're talking I'm talking on the

Lauren (Model)topic of the Christian Bible, and I'm not a Christian. So, in my view, no. But back when I wrote that, I was going to a Christian church and I was hearing these sermons about sex before marriage and

Brian Atlasthis is what I had concluded. So I what I'm confused about is you're saying you're you wrote you're only dating for marriage but you don't want to get married.

Lauren (Model)>> So >> just in like >> No, I don't Yeah, I don't want to get married legally. Like the [ __ ] government that has no that holds no weight in my life. No value. is mar but then you say

Lauren (Model)>> when you have sex with someone you're married >> like that's so that's that's the the current term for it I guess you could say >> how could >> but she's saying from like the Christian

Andrew Wilsonperspective like when she's talking about sex is marriage she's talking about like the Christian your belief right this second >> if you sleep with a person are you married to them >> oh you're binding your souls together

Lauren (Model)yeah that's a very that's a very >> you believe that not not some other people. You believe that that's true. >> Uh yeah, I guess it depends on the on the definition of marriage as well. If that's if you're saying that word,

Andrew Wilson>> you have bound your soul to three other people. Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. So then if you bind your soul to another person, are you committing adultery? >> Um yeah,

Andrew Wilsonunfortunately. >> So any guy that you marry, you are going to have to proclaim yourself an adulteress. I don't have to. Um >> Well, I mean, it's an entailment. You would just be hiding information from them, right?

Andrew Wilson>> No. >> You'd be like, "By the way, uh I have these other three husbands and uh you know, but I'm I'm only banging in but you're taking my you're taking my spiritual >> so married to me. >> You're taking my spiritual meaning and

Andrew Wilsonyou're putting it in a physical literal sense. That's why it sounds silly." Well, there's no the thing is with even within your spiritual context, it would still be body, soul, right? Or spirit, if you want to say that instead of soul,

Andrew Wilson>> right? >> These things are not divorced from each other. >> Yeah. >> The body and the soul. >> Yeah. They're not divorced from each other. >> Uh I think they can be. >> Yeah. But but well, no. How unless you're dead, how could they be divorced

Lauren (Model)from each other? Um, once consciousness realizes that it's not operating in the physical body, um, I think there can be a big separation there, speaking from personal experience. Um, >> but you're still in your body.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. You're still you're still in it, but it's like the realization >> the body is still breathing and your consciousness is still exist in both spaces no matter what. >> Yes. But but the realization I feel like

Andrew Wilsonthe realization kind of severs that um >> severs >> Yes. But when you when you marry somebody with your soul next, you will be committing adultery to the other three keepers of your soul. >> Um well, if I could go back and do it

Andrew Wilsonagain, I would only >> Yeah, but you can't go back and do it again. >> So from your So from your view >> Exactly. >> You're you're an adulteress. >> Um no, I wouldn't claim that. I'm not [ __ ]

Andrew Wilson>> How could you not be? Like, how could you how could you not be an adulteress? If if it's if you're claiming that you were actually married via soul to three other men, you're

Lauren (Model)going to marry a fourth man. How would you not be committing adultery on the three other men? >> Okay, then. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I'm an adulteress. If you want to put a label on it, but I don't claim that. >> This whole thing is completely incoherent.

Lauren (Model)>> I mean, it's consistent. It's consistent. It's just like, you know, I don't I don't like the conclusion. I feel like you're kind of like not on the same wavelength. Like you're not picking up what I'm putting down. So it's kind of hard to explain it to y'all. I feel like adulteress is like a very religious

Lauren (Model)kind of thing while you're going to have multiple soul ties with multiple different people. So your soul >> soul tie is not a religious thing. >> No, but it is in the more spiritual way. Instead of saying adultery though, it it's less like you've done something bad

Lauren (Model)and more so a piece of your soul is going to be connected to as many people as you give that to. And maybe that means a smaller part of your soul will go to each person. But I think in the Christian sense it would be adultery and in the wound.

Andrew Wilson>> So it's like spiritual prostitution. >> Yeah. Sure. >> Spir spiritual whoredom or spiritual uh adultery would be what you want to call it. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So couple things here guys. Uh TTS we've lowered it to 100 if you guys want to get one in. I guess again my question here is you said you're waiting until

Brian Atlasmarriage or sorry are you waiting until marriage? Yes. Currently, yes. >> But you don't want to get married >> legally. I don't want to get married legally in the legal system. >> In what way would you get married? Would

Lauren (Model)there be a ceremony? >> Personally, yes. For me, it would be a very a spiritual um >> Who would officiate it? Just like a random like >> somebody who's meaningful in my life. Probably my dad. >> Okay. Your dad? >> Yeah. >> Would officiate. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. I don't play by the rules of the

Lauren (Model)government. I don't give a [ __ ] what everybody else says. Like I'm going to do my wedding however I want it. And I don't definitely don't want anything in the government system. >> Um, >> look, I believe I believe marriages like that could be valid, >> right? I think that uh, you know, from

Andrew Wilsonmy view there there doesn't need to be an officiate from a government to make a marriage valid. I would consider it a sacrament. If you're saying that this is like but but you still are at the same mercy of the same logic because if

Andrew Wilsonyou're just making the declaration of we are married because uh our souls have connected then you've got three other husbands running around out there and you're all adultering on each other. >> Yeah, I guess that [ __ ] I guess that's

Lauren (Model)the reality, Andrew. I guess that is. And it it's unfortunate, you know. I wish I made better decisions, but here we are. So, >> so are you um the next guy you meet,

Brian Atlasyou're going to like how I guess how long are you going to wait until you want to get married? >> Um probably like at least a year like to to know that they're um like worthy of

Brian Atlasbuilding. You know, marriage is farther down the line, but like >> So, you're going to wait to have sex until you're married. Is that correct? >> Yeah.

Brian AtlasOkay. So, you're going to wait a year, but none of the previous guys you dated, that was your standard. Do I have that correct? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, all the including the scammer drug dealer guy. >> Uh,

Lauren (Model)>> how how soon after meeting him did you guys hook up? >> Um, I had known him for a couple years. So, it's probably like But but like in d in terms of dating um >> cuz you said you were only dating for 3 months.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I think it in terms of dating, it's probably a month. >> One month. Okay. >> So, this is what you're pitching to future guys. I had sex within a month of meeting a scammer

Lauren (Model)criminal, but the good guy, the father of my children, he has to wait a year or longer until we're married to >> I think the fact that I chose to do that

Lauren (Model)in the past doesn't give my next um suitor I don't think that gives them a pass to to to like a justification of like, okay, well, you need to have sex with me now. No, you can do any. You don't have to do anything.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Right. >> But from the male perspective, especially since you're not approaching this from like s like an objective morality position, like religion,

Brian Atlasit seems just kind of like a raw deal for the guy. And like, you know, >> I'll give you some analogies to explain why. Go ahead. Go ahead first. >> Or well, you make your point and then I'll

Lauren (Model)>> Okay. I was going to say um I think that that really depends on the man too because a lot of men in this generation are very lustful and on that vibration and um I've came very far from that

Lauren (Model)state. Um and I think somebody who's looking for a good soul rather than somebody to sleep with, I think they will understand where I'm coming from. Um that's really what I look for in a

Brian Atlasman. So my standards will automatically um weave out any bad weeds. So >> I guess the male perspective on this would be and look women can change how

Brian Atlasthey move. You could have previously slept with a hundred men all within 15 minutes of meeting them and then Mr. 101. You can say nope. I'm going to wait until marriage. You're going to wait 2

Brian Atlasyears. Blah blah blah. Whatever. Whatever. I would say that's a pretty raw deal for the guy. How about this though? Um, I'll give you a couple scenarios to perhaps elucidate why it's

Brian Atlaskind of a raw deal. You go to an ice cream shop. There's 10 people in line in front of you. Each of those 10 people get the ice cream for free. You finally get to the front of

Brian Atlasthe line and now they tell you it's going to be $10. How would that make you feel? >> Um, I would be like, damn. Okay. You wouldn't feel like kind of jipped or

Lauren (Model)what the [ __ ] >> It depends on their reasoning. I mean, did the first 10 people have a coupon? Was it like a special going on? You know, they just don't like me. >> Just kind of arbitrary. Um, how about this?

Andrew Wilson>> Okay. >> Uh, looking for somebody sent me some good ones here. I >> mean, how about how about this? I mean, this is super simple. It's really easy, right? So, um, if it's the case, let's

Andrew Wilsonsay that you had previous partners and you didn't make them wait, and then the next guy, you're like, "You're going to wait." He knows you didn't make previous partners wait. Why wouldn't you feel Jim? >> Wait, wait, wait. One more time, Andrew. >> Like, let's say, okay, so there's Jim and Bob.

Andrew Wilson>> Okay, >> so you meet Jim and you think Jim is awesome. Okay, and in the first week, you sleep with Jim. The very first week you meet him, you think he's so great, you sleep with him. And then things unfortunately don't work out between you

Andrew Wilsonand poor Jim. And so you go over to Bob and you really like Bob and Bob is great and he's wonderful. You meet Bob later and you say, "Well, Bob, you got to wait." And then one night you're having a nice conversation over dinner and you

Andrew Wilsontell Bob about Jim and how you slept with him in the first week. How does that make Bob feel? The guy who now has to wait. Wouldn't he feel like he was inferior to Jim, the guy you gave it up to?

Lauren (Model)>> Um, no. >> Why wouldn't he feel like that? Because >> because the man that I'm ever going to explain myself in any scenario to this man is going to be understanding. Now,

Lauren (Model)these things happened many years ago. And and if you talk to anybody that has had a spiritual awakening, you know, you have to go through some tough [ __ ] to to realize, you know, >> um there's more minds like, damn, I wish this chick

Lauren (Model)hadn't gone through a spiritual awakening. >> No. So, Andrew, maybe. But what I'm saying is any man that I end up with, he's going to [ __ ] respect that. Honestly, he's going to respect that decision and that's going to make him want to marry

Lauren (Model)me even more. Period. >> Why would that make him want to marry you more? >> Because I realized I I I had some wrongdoings. I I understood them. I took accountability for them and I realized I wanted to do better. And if any man

Andrew Wilsondoesn't respect that, then [ __ ] I don't want him in my life. >> Yeah, I I can understand him respecting accountability and respecting that all of that. I just don't know why it would

Andrew Wilsonmake him feel uh worse or better that you uh made him made or making him wait that you just had to wrap your legs around right away.

Lauren (Model)>> But you're you're just you're stating this so so simply. It's like how about the year or two years in between from meeting them? Like how about all of that time Andrew? Let me explain that to him. What did I do in that time? I I worked on myself.

Lauren (Model)>> You were celibate the entire time. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I >> He still seems from Bob's perspective that Jim got a better deal. >> Well, if [ __ ] Bob is a piece of [ __ ] then yeah, he's going to have that perspective. And guess what? I don't >> Why does that make him a piece of [ __ ]

Lauren (Model)>> Because it's like, why wouldn't you respect that? Like, I made a mistake and I want to do better. Why wouldn't you respect that? I don't understand. >> So, okay. Well, here, let's take the logic to its conclusion then. Okay,

Andrew Wilsonlet's say you had [ __ ] a hundred guys in a single night, but you took accountability for it. Why wouldn't he respect that? Why wouldn't he? >> Okay, but you can't just compare. >> Why wouldn't he?

Lauren (Model)>> Nah, Andrew, don't make that noise because you can't just compare. >> Why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he respect that? >> I've heard this argument from you many times before. And you can't just compare.

Andrew Wilson>> You cannot just compare. >> Answer the question. Answer the question. >> All right. Ask it one more time. Go ahead. What What makes >> Okay, go ahead. >> Why wouldn't he respect it anyway, even if you took all that accountability?

Andrew WilsonWhy? >> Um because of the number, >> right? But so all you're saying is that So what's the proper number? If you've done this five times, is that is that is that too many?

Lauren (Model)>> You're asking me? >> Yeah. If you had slept with a guy in the first week five times, that's too many. But >> I I think what's really I think what's really telling it's like, yeah, we can make mistakes, but it's how we move forward. Like I think somebody else said

Lauren (Model)this earlier. It's how we move forward from that, right? So maybe I slept with a hundred guys, right? And then I'm celibate for you guys say celibate for 10 years. For 10 years and and I took all that time, maybe I went to therapy,

Lauren (Model)maybe I started going to the gym, maybe I started eating healthy, meditating, you know, it's like that's really telling. It's like, >> yeah, but when that dude hears that you plowed 100 dudes in a night, isn't he going to go, >> uh, no matter how much time has passed, be like,

Andrew Wilson>> not a man, not a man that's up to my standards? No. Absolutely not. So, so the man who's up to your standards is a man who could look past you sleeping with a 100 dudes in a single night. >> Um,

Lauren (Model)that's kind of hard to answer because that's hypothetical. That No, it's hypothetical. So, I'm like trying to apply it to my my scenario. >> Would you be okay? >> So, what if you had what if you had uh slept with a guy the first week seven

Andrew Wilsontimes? >> Should should your should your man be able to see past that? >> Wait, one guy seven times in one week? That's what >> No, no, no, no, no. Seven different guys the first week you met him. >> Yeah.

Lauren (Model)>> Um, like I said, I think it's it's the telling of what what you do afterwards. And how about your religion? Like um I don't know. Does Christianity exactly do um what's it called? When you go and tell your sins, do they do that confession?

Andrew Wilson>> Of course. Confession. And yes, look, I'm all for people reforming. And I think it's still much more I feel. >> I think it's much more noble to move towards reforming. Absolutely. And

Andrew Wilsonstopping the bad behavior. I just don't think that it actually gives any protection against the judgment against the behavior. Meaning like >> I I don't give a [ __ ] if you're the most

Andrew Wilsonpious Christian woman in the world, right? If you slept with a 100 dudes in a night, I ain't ever going to date you no matter what, right? I don't care. I don't you know, maybe m by the grace of God, thank God he forgave you, right?

Lauren (Model)And I'm not going to hold it against you. I just also am not going to date you. >> Hey, and that's okay, Andrew. You know, we need people like you in this world and we need people of the other duality in this world as well. So, >> stamps. >> Yeah. [ __ ] We need we need both

Lauren (Model)polarities. Like, we really do. There's there's there's not one right formula to life. Like, and you are not superior to a a man because you make a different decision. Like, in your Bible, it says all men are created equal. And I've >> I'm superior to any man.

Lauren (Model)>> I said you're not >> any woman who slept on purpose with 100 men in a single night. If you think you're superior to anybody else on this earth, I think that kind of defies your logic a bit because your Bible your Bible says all men are created equal,

Andrew Wilsondoes it not? >> Where? >> I don't [ __ ] know. It's not my Bible. Look it up. >> You ask that's the Declaration of Independence. You don't. Not the Bible. >> No. No. >> Yeah. The Bible.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah, bro. >> You're going to quote it. You have to read it. >> I did read the Bible. I actually was in church for for years. So, what Andrew is trying to say, >> anywhere. I'll tell you what, I'll even let you Google it.

Aya (Casino)>> Tell me where in the Bible it says all men are created equal. >> Okay. >> Okay. What's your question? Go ahead. >> I have a question. So, according to his analogy or whatever, if a woman slept

Aya (Casino)with a 100 men and then she repents, would God forgive her if you're you're Okay. So, you think you're more superior than God and you think you're Can I finish my question, please?

Aya (Casino)>> Superior. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, do you think that your opinion is more important and more superior than God's opinion? Do you think you're you

Aya (Casino)offer a better heaven than God could? Because he would he says he would forgive anybody even if you murder. >> Andrew, let me jump in really quick here. No, >> I just want to make sure I got this

Andrew Wilsonright. There's a chomo, a kid diddler, and he's on death row. He diddled 10,000 children. He repents and he's forgiven. Do you think you're better than him? >> Honestly, >> hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let

Aya (Casino)me finish. No, >> I want to make sure. I want to make sure you do not think you're better than that person, right? You're same. Same. >> Um, honestly, I think that you shouldn't

Aya (Casino)answer my question with another question. I don't appreciate that at all because I feel like we both >> Okay, let me answer your question. Yes, but when we're talking about the idea of superiority, we obviously have a

Andrew Wilsondifferent definition of what that means. So, now answer mine, please. >> Um, what was your answer? >> Are you the same as a man? >> No, I didn't say what was your question.

Andrew Wilson>> Are you Are you Are Yes, you did say same. No, I said not inferior to a man who did 1,000 children. Are you the same? >> So, you're not answering my question, though. So why should I literally said the word yes? What part of yes? Yes to

Andrew Wilsonwhat? I didn't understand that letters. Yes. Yes. Yes. Again. Yes. I'm superior to them. Yes. >> No. That's not what I asked. >> My turn. Now it's my turn. So now that I've answered your question, 14.

Brian Atlas>> Yo, Andrew, whoever whoever hasn't sinned, whoever hasn't sinned cast the first stone. So you you think >> that's not how does that apply to the logic? >> One thing really quick here. So yeah,

Brian Atlasunder under religion, people who have committed crimes or people have a sorted past can be saved by Christ.

Brian AtlasMen do not need to then disregard a woman's baggage when he's making a dating determination. Like a Christian man doesn't need to be like, "Well, she's been forgiven or saved by Christ. Airgo, I must date her." I got a

Andrew Wilsonquestion. >> Men can still even Christian men >> would never would never question her salvation. >> Hey, I have a question. >> But if I followed your logic, you have to understand that if you really believe >> like she believes.

Aya (Casino)>> No, I didn't. I didn't. I feel like honestly show like people just put words in my mouth. >> Wait, Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. >> Wait, what? What did I do? >> Is that a rage quit? Are you >> I'm just I'm just pointing out the

Lauren (Model)entailment of the logic here. It's like >> Wait, Andrew. Yo, I have one question for you though. >> Just come back. Sit down. Don't worry. >> Andrew, are you listening? >> What would Jesus do >> here? If you're going to talk, you got

Andrew Wilsonto come back to the table. So, just go ahead. You mean >> just sit? >> Yeah. Go ahead. Take a seat. >> Are you familiar with the concept of the Holy Trinity? >> Yes, I am. >> So, you would agree with the concept of the Holy Trinity that Jesus Christ and

Andrew WilsonGod are the same being? >> Yes. >> Okay, great. So then that would mean that Jesus nuked Sodom and Gomorrah for sexual sin, right? >> Wait, I don't know about that. >> I'm sorry, >> bro.

Andrew Wilson>> You don't know about that? >> Are Are you just come back to the table? >> No, I don't know about that. >> Can I check? >> Yeah, I don't I don't That wasn't even that bad of an exchange. I don't know about that one. >> I think that's maybe a rage quit, but

Brian Atlasshe's welcomed. She's still kind of here, so she's welcome to come back to the table, whatever. You guys disagreed. Not a big deal. Um, >> yeah, that was a really even brutal exchange. >> We have a couple chats that are coming

SPEAKER_00through, guys. $100 TTS if you want to get it in. Sorry for the delay on some of these. >> Christopher donated $100.

SPEAKER_00Sorry, let me clarify. The man not only didn't call for help, but he pointed and laughed at the 30 women while they were being beaten. Does his past not matter?

Sonia>> I was the one. It's a little easily answered that question. So, I guess I'll start it off if that's okay. >> Um, to me now at this point, if you pointed and laughed, >> uh, I wouldn't personally forgive, but

Brian Atlaseveryone's forgiven through Jesus Christ. So, you can try that. >> Hey, don't either rejoin the panel. You got either just rejoin the panel, but we can't have people talking back there. Um, I guess really quick on the the

Brian Atlasfinal thing here, maybe I don't know if this is analogy is going to be helpful. Imagine a man having a reputation for spending obscene amounts of money on women that he had no interest in dating.

Brian AtlasThen when he dates you, he says he won't spend a dime until you prove yourself to him. Would you accept that? >> Yes. >> Yeah. I don't know. Why not?

Brian Atlas>> You guys be fine with that? Okay. So, every single Here's another one then. This guy you meet, you like him, he likes you. Or at least you think you

Brian Atlasfind out somehow through the grape vine that every single girl he dated before you. No, no, no, no, not even that. All the girls that he just hooked up with,

Brian Atlasbut never like dated seriously, he bought them gifts, took them on trips, expensive dinners, etc. There's been no change to his financial situation. But then he meets you and he says, "You're

Brian Atlasthe one. I want to be in a long-term relationship with you, but we have to wait for me to do all those things that I gave away to those other women who I claim I don't care about. Those things

Lauren (Model)have to wait. I won't do those things with you. Any any objections there?" >> Hey, Brian, like I said, it's it's the action afterwards that that's the most telling. Um >> Huh. The action afterwards.

Lauren (Model)>> Yeah, it's the action afterwards. So, so how long like you're just saying a very blatant plain statement like like what happened in between? Has this man done self-improvement? Like why am I even with him in the first place if he's spending all this money on all these girls he wouldn't date? You know what

Brian AtlasI'm saying? Like there needs to be some context here. You know, >> it's a it's a hypothetical to point out that women will have sort of two categories that they put men into.

Brian AtlasSometimes women will even actively have a guy waiting while having a friends with benefits, while having a sneaky link. They'll be going on dates telling this guy, "I want to wait. I want to

Brian Atlaswait. I want to wait." Meanwhile, that's not her actual value. That's not her actual virtue. She's just doing this arbitrary thing as sort of a game to either attempt to portray like virtue

Lauren (Model)signaling, basically, false virtue signaling there. That's the objection, >> right? But and the double standard and the unfair treatment exact same thing. >> I agree with that. I agree with that. Like women do do that. Women will have a

Lauren (Model)guy waiting, right? But but that's what I'm saying. It's the action after because if you look at my life from the past year, like that's going to be way more telling than a woman who's who's telling a guy to wait, but she also has a dude on the side. You know what I'm saying? There's there's a big difference

Andrew Wilsonthere. So don't get it twisted. >> Wait, let me uh quick thing, Andrew, if you need, but I do got to get this going. >> Yeah. So, I I'll just I'll just show you the value assessment real quick. So,

Andrew Wilsonshow of hands at the table if you've met some really really good men. Just a show of hands. Okay, that makes sense to me. Show of hands if you've met some really, really bad men.

Andrew WilsonYeah. So, you see how all of you are able to make these value assessments of good, worse, better things like this, right? Every single one of you. So, it's really funny when people say things

Andrew Wilsonlike, "We're the same. Uh, everyone's the same." Uh, remember not to judge, right? Because we're all the same. And yet, when I ask if you've met really good men, you say yes. And if you've met

Andrew Wilsonreally bad men, you say you have. So, what you're doing immediately is you're assessing the value of some people is way higher than the value of other people. You're doing that the second you

Andrew Wilsonraise your hand. In this case, the the same value assessment is going to happen in dating, right? You're going to be like, I've met some really good women. I met some really bad women. When it comes to the same thing with body count,

Andrew Wilsonright? It's like I would say in the good woman category, lesser body count is what men are after when they're going to give the value assessment for good woman or better woman, right? Does that make sense? >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Hey, um Blondie, are you coming back or what's up? >> No, really. Okay. So, I don't know if the viewers can hear that. I'll just repeat it. She

Brian Atlassaid, "Andrew is really mean and I don't want to talk to him anymore." Uh, please kindly escort her out of the studio then. She can't wait here. >> Grab your stuff and leave, please. >> Okay. Well, that's surprising. I didn't

Lauren (Model)even think that that was that heated of an exchange. Did you guys think that that was a I didn't even think that was that bad. >> I don't think it was bad at all. It >> It could just be podcast fatigue at this point. >> Pod Podcast fatigue. >> Yeah.

Michelle (55)>> Yeah. All right. >> I think he's trying what he was trying to tell her was because he's been through biblical principles >> and you know and this is where it's coming from. So when you

SPEAKER_00>> Yeah. I'm just I'm just trying to explain how we make value assessments. >> Yeah. >> Just just like how we make value assessments and judgments as people. >> Shark face donated $100

SPEAKER_00can confirm manifestation. Spent lots of time at SeaWorld as a kid and rubbed my neck wanting bills. Now I am a great white shark, but everyone is afraid of me.

Lauren (Model)>> Wait, that's cute. I like it. That was really cute. Baby shark, >> shark, you make shark face. Appreciate it. Thank you, >> Andrew. I just have one question for you. >> Hold on. Hold on. We have more coming

SPEAKER_00through. >> Hasty George donated $100. Since I was a kid, women have used me in various ways, including to satisfy their

SPEAKER_00lust. So, your statement that men are more lustful than women is incorrect and biased. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Is that me? >> I don't know. >> There's another one coming through. You're going to have to save your

SPEAKER_00question till the end because we have we have to keep it moving. >> Thank you, Pacy George. Appreciate it. We have based Thor coming in. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. >> Based Thor donated $100.

SPEAKER_00Chair one and Joker has a rest smelling Taylor Queef's stank face. Chair four was a prefect example of when a man puts pressure on a weak woman, she'll run to a low value man to validate her immature

Brian Atlasbehavior. >> Would I be Thank you, Bor. Appreciate it. >> I think so. >> All right, I'll take it. >> Thank you, Grace. Base Thor.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. Hold on. Where were we? Um, where is it? Uh, you also wrote, Rose, you think dating culture has been ruined. You think lots of women date and marry

Brian Atlasbecause they're desperate, not because they found a man up to their standards. Likewise for the men. Do you think it goes both ways? >> Well, yeah, it definitely goes both ways. >> Oh, okay. All right. Uh, they commonly say you can't expect anyone to be perfect, and what I hear is, "I'm

Brian Atlassettling for less." But you did frame it as this is like an occurrence that occurs more so with women. I'm probably I'm not going to bite on that. There's about someone out there who will meet your standards. You're just looking in the wrong places. You believe when they

Brian Atlasdo date out of desperation, it causes major issues later down the line. No disagreement. >> You think today's society abuses sex and then gets mad at the outcome? >> Yeah. >> Uh STDs, babies, attachment issues, it's

Brian Atlasdesigned to strengthen the bond with a significant other, create life, blah blah. Uh any other reason? Okay. Uh nothing else there for us to bite on. We're going to go around the table. What do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10? What do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10? Starting with you,

Brian AtlasRose. >> Um, I'll just say a five. >> Really? Manifestation baddy. Okay. >> Uh, going to you, what do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10? >> I >> Wait, I a [ __ ] I should I wanted to do No, no, no. I want to do something

Brian Atlasdifferent with this. >> Uh, everybody close their eyes. I should have done this. >> Okay, everybody close their eyes. >> I'm scared. >> Hands up. >> Hands up. Hands up. >> Both hands.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So, uh, what you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10. demonstrate it with your fingers. >> Okay. Wait.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, so >> wait, leave. Are you gonna You got to do it. Lauren, >> I ain't doing it. >> Okay. I can't even see the [ __ ] [ __ ] it. I'm just going to do it the old way. Okay. Uh, what do you rate yourself on a

Rosie ($12M)scale of 1 to 10? >> Can I think about it? >> You just [ __ ] had your [ __ ] hands. >> No, I'm not like that. Not like No, I was like, >> you Oh my god. >> Not a I'm not a 10. I'm not a 10. I know that. You had 10 finger. >> No, I was

Brian Atlas>> She was waiting. >> I was waiting cuz you were making up your mind. >> I said do it. >> I'm sorry. You didn't host that one very well. >> I understood it very clearly. >> Jesus Christ, bro.

Lauren (Model)>> All right. What do you What do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10? Starting with you. >> Me? Uh, I'm going to not answer this question. I I'm You know, I don't >> I've given you a pass before. Just answer the question. Come on.

Lauren (Model)>> Me? I mean, I I hate I think the idea of putting someone on a scale of like 1 to 10 is like pretty disgusting as is, so I wouldn't do it. >> Why? Why is it disgusting?

Lauren (Model)>> I I don't think I should be like belittled down to a number. And I don't think anyone else should be either. >> I don't think it's belittlement. >> That's how I see it. >> Why is there Why is there this idea that

Andrew Wilsonit's belittling if people assess how they look, which they do every single day? You assessed your look before you came on the podcast. You assessed what makeup to use. You assessed whether or not you were going to pluck your eyebrows, whether or not you were going to comb your hair a certain way, whether

Andrew Wilsonor not you were going to put on which brand of lipstick, what you were going to wear. You probably thought about it for hours, perhaps even for days leading up to the podcast. Perhaps you even said, "I need to pick out a good outfit."

Andrew Wilson>> I think you're assuming a lot of inaccurate things, but go off. >> Well, no, I don't think so. I think that just by >> You think I thought about for days what makeup I was going to [ __ ] put on purpose. You're wearing makeup on. So,

Andrew Wilsonyou assessed your looks before you left the house because otherwise you would not have purposely put something on your face to change how you look, >> right? >> Yeah. So, you can make these value assessments. The thing is is like what

Lauren (Model)about that is actually belittling. >> I don't know. I I guess I was taught in a way that like everyone obviously everyone is equal. Um, and I think that putting people on a scale of like 1 through 10 just based on physical

Andrew Wilsonappearance is just I mean it's something I was taught growing up. You don't really believe that, do you? Like you don't really believe that people are equally beautiful and people are equally as attractive and like you

Brian Atlasdon't honestly believe any of that dopey [ __ ] do you? >> Um, I mean with the way I was raised, I was raised to believe those things. >> One one thing on this. So, I did a review of your Tik Tok account, and your

Brian Atlasmost viewed Tik Tok accounts are about you praising and sing over really, really good-looking men. Why don't you praise and s over less conventionally attractive men or ugly men?

Brian Atlas>> Are you saying that every dude I've ever made a TikTok about is conventionally attractive? >> Oh, >> what do you mean? >> Is that true? >> Well, I think you're you're trying to do this >> Hold on. You're trying to do this rhetorical slight of hand where you're

Brian Atlasgoing to narrow in onto the term conventional, but is it not the case that you've made multiple multiple Tik Toks and some of them are your most viewed Tik Toks where you've like pointed out, oh my god, I've got this

Brian Atlashuge crush on this guy and said guy happens to be a really really attractive famous rich person. >> That's not that actually is like not always true though. >> Well, I >> I'm actually happy to go with the line

Andrew Wilsonof conventional. >> Sure. Sure. Most of your Tik Toks have been over conventionally attractive men. Hone in on the word conventional, >> right? >> I dare you. >> But why? How are you hone in on the

Brian Atlasword? >> I just didn't want to put myself on a scale of 1 to 10. How the [ __ ] is this going this way? >> Well, hopefully people can just answer the question so I can move the show

Brian Atlasalong. But just don't be mad when the show goes late. Um >> I mean, you want to argue? You want to argue? Or we can move? We can move on. You could just be like, "I'm a X." Okay,

Brian AtlasI'm going to get everybody's answers and I can come back to you. Go ahead. >> Seven. Six. Three. >> I'll give myself a seven. >> Six. >> Five. >> Oh, I already said my answer, but I'm a

Brian Atlasfive. >> Just repeat it, I guess. Okay, Felicity. >> Six. >> I give myself a five. Andrew, >> I'm obviously a 10. >> Obviously. Of course. >> Obvious. >> Obviousing.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. There's a lot of disbelief at that table. A lot of disbelieving looks, eye rolls, little bit of chuckling, a little bit of laughing. It's almost like you guys are holding me to some kind of beauty standard that you have in your

Andrew Wilsonhead or something. I don't know. It's really strange. It's almost like you don't actually believe that I'm a 10, but rather perhaps a different number than a 10. It's really strange cuz, you know, we're all the same and stuff.

Andrew Wilson>> I was laughing at Felicity cuz I obviously she's not a six. Of course you weren't laughing at the absurdity of a 41-year-old chain smoker saying he was a 10 physically, right? That would be absurd. You of course you wouldn't laugh

Andrew Wilsonat that. >> You've got a sexy little salt and pepper thing going on. Don't downgrade yourself. You got a great voice lady. >> Yeah, Andrew, I think you manifested. >> Ain't none of you thought I was a 10 walking into this place and ain't none of you going to think I'm a 10 walking

Andrew Wilsonout of this place. And I'm totally fine with that because I'm old and I don't care. And also, it's what's true, right? And so we look at this. It's like I always say I'm a 10. I always watch

Andrew Wilsoneveryone laughing and rolling their eyes, right? Why? Because we like to lie to each other, don't we? We all like to lie to each other. Oh, girl, you're so beautiful. When she's [ __ ] ugly as

Andrew Wilsonsin. Oh, but girl, that's a beautiful outfit when it's an ugly ass outfit. Like, I watch you guys do this all day. Like, here, let's do this. I'm going to

Andrew Wilsonask a question. I want you guys to be actually honest, right? Actually honest. Raise your hand if when you walked in, you sat down at the table and all of you were making your little intros. Now, I've seen this the the intros to this show a hundred times before the cameras

Andrew Wilsonare rolling. And here's how it goes. Where are you from? I'm from blah blah blah. Oh, I love the this. I love the that. You're all making your like little introductions. Raise your hands though if you judged and assessed the looks of the other people. At least one of the

Andrew Wilsonother people at the table when you sat down. Just raise your hand if you did that. >> Judged the looks. You go. Ah, I can't quite get it up. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now, what were

Lauren (Model)you judging it against? >> Well, I wasn't judging Oh, me. >> What were you judging it against? >> Not against anything. I'm just like observing someone's appearance. It's not like I'm like I don't know what to say

Andrew Wilsonabout that. I'm just like, oh, you have this hair. Oh, like you're wearing that. >> Oh, so you just you just happen to catalog things and you're wearing green shirt. You're making no other value judgments about that.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. Is that hard to believe? Do you think anybody would ever believe that in a million years? Is you're just like, I just like to categorize the colors of things and what people are wearing, but make no other value judgments on that whatsoever.

Andrew Wilson>> I mean, like I I'm sorry, but I could give less of a [ __ ] about what you're wearing. >> Yeah, probably not me. If the question wasn't about me, it was that if you sat down at the table, >> looked at the appearance of the other

Andrew Wilsonwomen at the table and made assessments and value judgments. Perhaps you looked at one and said and thought in your head, "She's kind of fat." Maybe you looked at another one, you thought, "Man, she really shouldn't wear that blouse." Or you looked at another one

Andrew Wilsonand was like, "I don't like those eyebrows." Or any type of value judgment like that. Raise your hand if you made a single value judgment like that when you sat down. Okay, we got one honest person. >> Probably

Andrew Wilson>> two honest people. There we go. And that's And see the re You're not raising your hand, but the thing is is like you're likely the most dishonest person on the panel.

Andrew Wilson>> And the the reason is is because >> we all do this. We all do this. We all sit down and make value judgments and assessments on each other all the time, non-stop everywhere we go. And we do it

Andrew Wilsonconsciously, subconsciously, but mostly consciously, right? We all do this. And uh it's the only the people who want to lie, right? They want to lie because we like telling each other these fun lies

Andrew Wilsonbecause it helps society stay together and helps avoid conflict and this type of thing. But if you could really say out loud all the things you thought about the other women on the panel, they probably wouldn't like you very much,

Andrew Wilsonright? Like that's actually the case. And and I just wish that when we talk about rating systems 1 through 10, attractiveness, conventional attractiveness, that people would just be honest that like look, no, we're not

Andrew Wilsonreally very equal at all. And there is a symmetrical beauty standard we adhere to because men who look a certain way, they're not just conventionally attractive, they're globally attractive. And the same thing with women. That's all.

Brian Atlas>> Do you want to rate yourself? >> I really don't. >> All right. Uh, we'll come back to that really quick. Uh, we have some chats coming through. Thank you, Vector. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00>> Vector donated $100. Dreads girl, you talk about having different mental states. I'm a software developer. In our world, we describe you as being in an inconsistent state.

Brian Atlas>> Damn. Well, good thing I'm not in your world. Thanks for that though. >> We have one more coming in guys. TTS is 100. Streamlabs.com whatever if you want to get it in.

SPEAKER_00Streamlabs.com/ whatever if you want to get a TTS in >> pasty George donated $100. You know what I find confusing? My

SPEAKER_00mother became a feminist because of the residential school era. She had a reason to become that way. But why did almost every woman in the West become a feminist?

Brian Atlas>> Who here's a feminist? Show of hands. >> Nobody. Nobody here's a feminist. >> We have just a bunch of misandress here then. Just >> I I guess >> misogynist. I mean, sorry.

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