Plus Size Model ONLY Dates Men Who Make $1,000,000+?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES SHOW! | Dating Talk #189
Date: 2024-08-21
Duration: 7h 16m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_05(audience)
SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Shannon(guest)
SPEAKER_12Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13(guest)
SPEAKER_14(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:59
IntroShannon introduces herself: 28yo, LA, self-employed (influencer marketing, petsitting, reselling).
“hello my name is Shannon and my age is 28 I'm originally from Los Angeles California”
00:03:50
IntroLindsay introduces herself: 20yo, Venice, DJ producer, parents support her financially.
“I'm Lindsay I am 20 I live in uh Venice I'm from Manhattan Beach and I'm a DJ producer and my parents give me money”
00:07:47
IntroStar introduces herself: 26yo, Valley LA, TikTok singer/YouTuber, new song 'NPC' out next week.
“my name is star I'm 26 um born and raised in the valley in LA and I'm a Tik tocker singer YouTuber”
00:40:00
QuoteStar describes becoming celibate after paranormal experiences and religious conversion through a 20yo Christian virgin she fell in love with.
“last day to the Virgin that showed me the presence of God while I was having paranormal Supernatural experiences now I'm super spiritual religious after that and celibate waiting for marriage”
00:56:19
QuoteStar reveals her body count is 24, including hosting a sex party at age 14 that got her kicked out of treatment.
“24 how many men how many women mostly women... six men and I regret part of my body count I got kicked out of treatment at 14 cuz I hosted a sex party”
01:11:31
OtherAbby (chair 4, Ventura) leaves the show ~71 minutes in. Had blood drawn earlier and had a panic attack backstage. Brian announces it on camera.
“she had like a full panic attack... she said she got a blood draw today for the first time and then she said this whole experience just kind of freaked her out”
01:53:33
OtherAndrew Wilson joins via video call after his day debate. Video lag issues at start. Greets the panel.
“how you guys doing tonight doing good how the DEA yeah it was a absolute disaster but oh um yeah just a disaster”
02:16:36
QuoteShannon gives herself a 6.5 self-rating, then Andrew Wilson laughs audibly (mic was on).
“I would give myself a realistic 6.5 [Laughter] my God rud Andrew”
06:16:24
ControversyRachel Wilson (Andrew's wife) crashes the show and confronts Shannon about wanting men to pay on dates while being childfree and feminist.
“Rachel literally got dragged out of bed for this... I hear my husband is a woman hating misogynist and I'm here”
06:20:00
QuoteRachel Wilson delivers argument: women must choose between traditional treatment (men pay, protect) and equality (split costs, handle own problems).
“you guys have to choose do you want to be strong independent equal women or do you want chivalry and protection and provision you want the best of both”
07:01:00
QuoteStar reveals body count is 24 (6 men); Lindsay's is under 20 mixed, under 10 men; Mia's is 11; Morgan's is 1.
“yeah 24... six men... somewhere with under 20 under 10... 11... Morgan one Uno”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Guest introductions
Each guest introduces name, age, location, occupation, and relationship status. Panel: Shannon (28, LA), Lindsay (20, Venice), Ayra (20, Hollywood), Abby (27, Ventura via Kansas), Star (26, Valley LA), Mia Huffman (22, OC/LA), Morgan (18, Bay Area), Ava (24, Santa Barbara).
00:09:20
Relationship statuses and dating histories
Each guest shares current relationship status, longest relationship, and recent dating experiences. Star discusses falling in love with 20yo Christian virgin (incompatibility over virginity pledge). Lindsay discusses talking stages and bisexuality. Shannon discusses 6-month relationship via Bumble. Abby leaves early (~71 min, panic attack).
00:33:20
Hookup culture and sexuality
Lindsay and Shannon discuss hookup culture. Lindsay is bisexual, hooks up with both men and women. Star discusses Christian virginity pact and her own celibacy decision. Extended discussion on who Lindsay is casually seeing.
00:50:00
Who should pay on first dates / chivalry
Extended discussion on whether men should pay on first dates. React videos played. Most panel members say men should pay. Brian argues for women paying their own share as fair given modern feminism. Shannon and Lindsay favor men paying. Morgan neutral. Andrew Wilson call-in agrees traditional arrangement requires women to fulfill traditional roles in return.
00:54:00
Feminism and traditional gender roles
Table-wide discussion on whether guests identify as feminists. Shannon is moderate feminist. Star, Morgan, Ava are not feminists. Debate on modern wave feminism vs. equal rights feminism. Discussion of stay-at-home wife role as valid labor.
01:53:33
Andrew Wilson call-in
Andrew Wilson (Daily Wire) calls in via video chat for ~5 hours. Topics include chivalry and feminist hypocrisy, virginity and body count, the bear vs. man debate, traditional gender roles, abortion, misogyny accusations, who should take the bullet for the other, and laundry/chores. Notable moments: Star accuses Andrew of misogyny; Andrew responds with structured arguments. Video lag issues at start.
02:13:20
Self-ratings (1-10 attractiveness)
Prompted by Stiffler (chat donation). Shannon: 6.5. Lindsay: 9-10. Star: declined (cited malicious intent). Mia: 8.5. Ava: 7 (said 6 last appearance). Brian: 5. Andrew: 4.
05:26:40
Bear vs man debate
Standard Whatever segment: would you rather encounter a random bear or random man in the woods. Panel gives varying percentages on likelihood of man attacking. Brian concludes the women are 'crazy.'
05:38:20
Laundry and domestic tasks
Brian asks if women should do a man's laundry first time visiting his house. Extended comedic segment where Brian admits he expects domestic tasks on first visit. Andrew Wilson agrees with traditional framework. Star and Mia have mixed views. Morgan says no.
06:16:24
Rachel Wilson crashes the show
Rachel Wilson (Andrew's wife, stay-at-home mom) comes downstairs ~376 min. Debates Shannon directly about feminism, childfree choice, men paying on dates, and what women offer in traditional vs egalitarian arrangements. Rachel argues women who want equality should pay their own way. Shannon argues she has intrinsic value as a woman. Heated exchange on traditional vs modern womanhood. Rachel leaves ~401 min.
07:01:00
Body count round
Near end of show. Lindsay: under 20 mixed (under 10 men). Shannon: pleaded fifth. Star: 24 (6 men; mentions sex party at 14). Mia: 11. Morgan: 1.
Transcript
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04:39:14
Brian Atlasany woman who wants it but don't you think okay so don't you think it would be did Andrew say there is no such thing as a high value woman I don't know man
04:39:24
Brian AtlasI'd pay for a couple hundred first dates with Madison and feed Uncle Andrew's ass to okay what thank you Zar Ross pay for a couple I literally didn't say that I
04:39:38
Brian Atlasdidn't say there's no such thing as a high value woman totally made up um so oh do you think that n uh non-traditional women are I kind of
04:39:50
Shannonalready asked are deserving of traditional treatment if by traditional treatment like respect and cared for yes you can still respect a girl and care about her
04:40:02
Brian Atlasand not pay for the first date and like open the car door and do all that I think can I think it's how she views it okay what was the thing you said before the TTS came in what did you
04:40:15
Brian AtlasI wanted to touch back on that do you recall I don't think so that's fine um so my view is when it comes to chivalry who is deserving of chivalry right
04:40:26
Brian Atlasladies if you want gentlemanly treatment shouldn't you be a lady right as a woman that seems fair
04:40:34
Brian Atlasright sure but life isn't always Fair sure but okay I don't even know how
04:40:43
Brian Atlasto wait hold on hold on hold on let me just okay so my view is then so my position would be you used to do
04:40:54
Brian Atlassex work okay my position if your position is men should pay for women my position is any woman who has
04:41:02
Brian Atlasdone sex work or does sex work sorry Mia should be barred from receiving chivalrous treatment Danel thank you for being a supporter to
04:41:13
Brian Atlasthe content you're not muted oh sorry sorry bro it's okay uhor yes they should be who making this law I'm making the law nope under my yes I'm going to do a
04:41:26
Brian Atlascouet maned man thank you for the gifted 20 I'm going to do coupet of the government and I'm going to pass a law that if you if you either are or were a sex worker no man should ever have to
04:41:37
Brian Atlaspay for a first date with you because only ladies here's here's my standard here's the male standard only ladies deserve chivalrous gentlemanly treatment
04:41:48
Brian AtlasI'm not saying you don't you can treat her well doesn't mean you have to call her names treat her poorly but when it
04:41:55
Brian Atlascomes to the expect the expected gender roles you have failed at your expected
04:42:05
Brian Atlasgender role as a Woman by engaging in sex work sorry Mia oh good and so you have have you have abandoned you have oh what's the term
04:42:16
SPEAKER_14you have not abandoned disregarded no there's another word give me more synonyms give up more synonyms abandoned neglected determinated you have
04:42:27
SPEAKER_14up I got do I do I got to Google abandoned synonyms hold on okay neglected deserted ruined your chaken
04:42:36
Brian Atlasrejected dump ditch Reckless neglected uh you have deserted abandoned you have
04:42:45
Brian Atlasabandoned you have abandoned you have abandoned uh your sort of uh what you ought what you should have brought to the table oh I didn't know I did
04:42:56
Brian Atlasthat I'm just saying I don't think you pay for first date for a woman who's not a lady now here's the difference that I'll actually Grant though I can say this you'll still
04:43:08
Brian Atlashave guys who are going to still because they one they know it's the most effective dating strategy as a man to just pay for the first date psycho donated
04:43:17
SPEAKER_05$100 Mia honey no why you have to do the Dirty Work forever bar forever4 Scarlet Letter really do have the Scarlet Letter Scarlet Letter um
04:43:29
Brian Atlasokay here's the thing and I'll admit this men are still even if you've done gang bangs and like crazy you got 100 plus body count these simps out here are still going to S simp going to
04:43:41
Brian AtlasSim they're going to pay for your they're going to trick they're going to be I don't know what the term trick marks whatever the they're still going to pay for your they're going to pay for dates they're going to it's it's kind of like cucking
04:43:54
Brian Atlasthey're cucks they're cucks that's not exactly the definition of that whatever anyways look all I'm saying is look I'm just saying what I think should be it's not it's not reality you're not living
04:44:06
Shannonunfortunately it's not yeah these women who are essentially uh prostitute it's not that's not what you're trading you're when a woman normally goes on a
04:44:16
Shannondate she's not trading her body as if she were in SW trading the opportunity to get to know her and her
04:44:25
Brian Atlastime but okay but so don't you as the woman get the same exact thing I get your time and attention you get my time
04:44:35
Brian Atlasand attention it holds different value for men and women actually I I told I actually disagree I think women care
04:44:44
Brian Atlasfar more about attention than men do so I actually think that our attention to you is more [Music]
04:44:56
Shannonvaluable I wouldn't agree because like you said there's a lot of guys out there who want female attention and they're willing to take
04:45:08
Shannonthem out on nice first dates and provide for them and pay because they want the female
04:45:16
Shannonattention I don't think men want attention I think they cre like they do they want they want attention I think she saying they don't here's the thing
04:45:25
Brian Atlasso like so women for example will go to a nightclub and they'll want the attention of men
04:45:36
Brian Atlaseven if they have no romantic interest in the man like if a guy you go to the club and a guy approaches you you might even be angling to just immediately
04:45:46
Brian Atlasreject him but you'll still enjoy that uh attention first off it's not clear to me if there's a corresponding thing in
04:45:55
Brian Atlasmen where men are like seeking to like I just want to go out and have a bunch of women hit on me and turn them down that doesn't exist it doesn't
04:46:07
Brian Atlashappen I would agree it wouldn't make much sense women care far more about attention than men do we want something different what attention it's like
04:46:16
Brian Atlasvalidation yeah I think both I both want validation no we actually genuinely want your romantic interest but that's different than attention that's what I'm saying
04:46:28
SPEAKER_14validation for like men want that too like validation that somebody enjoys our company validation personable validation that of women want more of an attention
04:46:38
SPEAKER_14seeking was that one those vation rev no I'm like I'm not good with vocab What about love I mean AR we there looking for love isn't that the basis of it and
04:46:50
SPEAKER_14then we just want to take care of each other and have someone take care of us and once you genuinely love somebody like the last person even though we didn't work out we didn't have any of these problems we just cared and love for each other beautiful I like that
04:47:01
Shannonstar that was beautiful put it on a uh Hallmark card uh so a coaster but like said like love at first sight usually you grow into loving someone after
04:47:12
SPEAKER_05getting to know them hold on we're off topic okay um ultimately look my position is if you're not a lady and by simply by virtue of having kilo of
04:47:25
SPEAKER_05cereal donated $100 get sun get some keep life in perspective live within your means stay hydrated stay healthy be true to self
04:47:36
SPEAKER_05and others keep promises protect the kids last question most embarrassing date yo kilb serial thank you for the
04:47:45
Brian AtlasTTS we'll get to that back in a sec so my view is is that chivalry is reserved for
04:47:53
Brian Atlasladies and so if you have been involved in sex work in any capacity you have abandoned and you've rescinded revoke God damn what the is the worded
04:48:05
Brian Atlasrevoked abandon gave away your right you have abandoned your you can never I don't think you can forsaken thank you well I don't know what it is if you have
04:48:14
Shannonever done sex work I don't think you can ever claim to be a lady okay that's your opinion but it's not the reality it's not the reality no
04:48:27
Brian Atlasit is reality no because I've had guys pay for First Dates okay yes you will still there's simps out there there's guys who don't have any sure fine there are some guys who are willing to tolerate that I guess what I'm saying
04:48:39
Brian Atlashere is that God how do I explain it again I don't think that it's the point of no
04:48:50
Brian Atlasreturn I'm returned it's a black hole it's a black excuse me black hole Event Horizon once you have a gang gang gang bang videos of you
04:49:02
Brian Atlason the internet you can't be a lady anymore sorry depends I guess on you lost your you lost your your lady card start splitting start splitting the bill
04:49:12
Shannonon first dates I think a lot of men would love to pay for woman's brother uh I think most men uh who are financially able to and have
04:49:24
ShannonExpendable income are fine with paying for a first date even for a lady who who gang banged who's who's gang bang who did a gang bang she's not no what we're saying is she's not a lady anymore I want to go home she's just a woman she
04:49:37
SPEAKER_14gave up the name so like that's all he's saying is like you yes she can and all and mind you I'm not on anybody's side I'm just giving the plain simple what he's saying is as a lady would not
04:49:48
SPEAKER_14contribute to that light of work and I do so I am not a lady this interpretation I'm not a lady they forfeit for the privilege of my chivalry
04:49:59
SPEAKER_14sorry my yo J ekin good to see you in the chat I think me appreciate it I think it's the reason it would be considered reality I'm not on either side I'm just saying the reason because people are like oh that's not ladylike
04:50:11
SPEAKER_14this isn't ladylike and that's the reality of like what we've been grown up to do and then when you're not quote lady like then you're giving up that it you're giving up your like lady card
04:50:24
Brian Atlaslike you said you lose the lady card the lady privilege card is revoked look I I canell I probably maybe I'm in the minority here when it comes to this H
04:50:34
SPEAKER_05and well met LOL paladins donated $100 and2 oh I'm I'm sure she completely tells men on the first date that she is
04:50:43
SPEAKER_05a former sex worker she's just a scammer pretending to be something she isn't she wants to get paid by
04:50:52
Shannonsuckers I don't want to get paid by anyone um I don't probably tell them on the first date if it doesn't come up but I have told the person I'm currently
04:51:03
Shannonwith and they you don't you don't disclose uh not on the first date I probably wouldn't how far in yeah um until it seems like we're going towards
04:51:14
Shannonlike a serious relationship if you won't mention it like what's the reasoning behind not mentioning it on a first date I don't think a guy would tell you his like genital size on a first date so I
04:51:25
SPEAKER_14guess just I don't think that's the same thing it's like I'd ask somebody I'd be like what do you do for work and then he'd say what he does for work and you'd be like oh I do this and then you're
04:51:35
Brian Atlaslike oh cool like what brought you into that and like black shirt rocked and burped that doll for 90 minutes green flag chair one has crazy demands but admitted to renting
04:51:48
Brian Atlasher NEPA boyfriend's parents house and doing porn stop rine relinquish or W relinquish I think was wave your right wave your right perfect thank you for
04:51:58
Brian Atlashighlighting my green plug it's good look look there's guys you have even the
04:52:06
SPEAKER_05women who do the O stuff psycho donated $100 star are you a big big fan of Ariana grand does that explain the
04:52:16
SPEAKER_14outfit attitude and everything I don't know when the last time she wore this hair and dress but I do like her
04:52:27
Brian Atlasmusic thank you next okay appreciate it psycho appreciate it wor so look all I'm just saying yeah you can still get the treatment plenty of
04:52:38
Brian Atlasguys will still do the treatment but uh I'm trying to introduce a new paradigm what's that wait oh anybody remember those like '90s
04:52:49
Brian Atlasoh wait the N I'm sorry this is totally unrelated I'm just like autism attacking what cinedine a new paradigm and anybody
04:53:00
Brian Atlasknow what I'm talking about Andrew weren't born till 2000s zip it the only Paradigm I know is the rehab I went Codine a new paradigm wait how does it
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04:53:20
Andrew Wilsontalking about you're alone on this one I don't know where that came I hate to leave you hanging but I just never heard that like movies when you see a movie someone in the chat I'll relate I bet you know that
04:53:31
Brian AtlasTHX sound yeah yeah the audience is now deaf yeah yeah that's not how it goes sorry that's not how it goes I how fil stuff coming y wait do it do do
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Andrew Wilsonit yeah wait do it it's it starts with like a a low a low V and then it wa do it just kind of pitches up can you do it I can't really do it you you were just about to do it he did it yeah but I
04:53:54
Andrew Wilsoncan't really do it Andrew don't leave me hanging bro I can't I can't I'll do with you I'll do it with you I'll I'll do it with you I'll do it with you I'll do it with you I'll do it with you let's go it's good it's good but it's just okay
04:54:08
Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on hang on I'll just pull up the sound
04:54:13
Brian Atlasno idea what you Nick can you find the THX F THX wait is this going to be like copyright are we going to get for the THX
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Andrew Wilsonthing yeah yeah I better not do that actually dang it dang it a dang it I did the AAL song a dang it I can't do it whatever it's like hey can you do the Disney
04:54:36
Brian Atlasone Disney yeah can you do the Disney it do goes something like we ruined all our intellectual property yeah basically it goes something like that you know like
04:54:46
Andrew Wilsonthe castle comes on and it has the Disney like the Disney intro music McDonald that's McDonald's yeah oh my what is going on
04:54:58
Andrew Wilsonokay you got wait I feel like I know you are now watching Disney well there's a there's actually an old mental exercise right watch this watch this okay so
04:55:08
Andrew WilsonIndiana Jones Star Wars right same composer Brian mhm you'll be able to hum one but you won't be able to hum the other what wait
04:55:24
Andrew Wilsonwhat wait Star Wars Indiana Jones same same conductor okay you'll be able to do one but you won't be able to do the other so whichever one you do first you
04:55:35
Brian Atlaswon't be able to do the other one what's the Star Wars I don't know how I don't know how it goes you don't know how either of them go I'm more of like a treky to be honest
04:55:47
Brian Atlasjust kidding oh man fail just kidding just kidding I don't watch that sorry trackies wait I think here hold on maybe I can do it
04:56:01
SPEAKER_05like psycho donated $100 rude Lindsay you look like you would ruin my life that being said when can the destruction begin
04:56:10
SPEAKER_07I've become too complacent and need some excitement the best way to ask me out is by threatening me so yeah yeah like this though I will rain down in a Godly Firestorm
04:56:23
SPEAKER_07upon you you're going to have to call the United Nations and get a binding resolution to keep me from destroying you I am talking scorched Earth I will
04:56:33
SPEAKER_14Massacre you I will you up just play did it also take you two years to play that one what is this is Justin
04:56:44
SPEAKER_14Bieber oh like my friends child can they hear it that's like ET or no it's Justin Bieber it's Justin Bieber
04:56:55
SPEAKER_14and then wait let me it's like the the little light bulb the Pixar sorry guys this is like is this it
04:57:11
Brian Atlascin a new paradigm in cinema oh that was good I don't know wait no there's a deeper I don't know if that's it okay whatever I don't know sounds like AI
04:57:20
Andrew Wilsonsaying it cinon C I thought it was way deeper voice world or the whatever podcast loses all objectivity and starts going off on a derailment things which
04:57:32
Brian Atlashave nothing to do with the show wait Andrew can you say can you do in a deep voice Codine a new paradigm in
04:57:41
SPEAKER_14cinema cig a new paradigm in cinema you should be a voice yeah you should do audio books giveus audio books like you
04:57:52
SPEAKER_14know the guy that reads the audio book he should do the he should do the audio Bible audio Bible AIO audio Bible we can
04:58:00
Brian Atlashave you do that ebooks oh going back to killer of Serial he said most embarrassing date short if you can
04:58:11
SPEAKER_14I can't really think of one right now okay what about you girl was gross I went to the bathroom texted my friend to call me in 5 minutes to say that he needed something I had to drive her back
04:58:22
SPEAKER_14home and she lived 20 minutes from me and I blasted the music so we couldn't talk peace out oh whoops um you when you say gross what do you
04:58:33
SPEAKER_14mean like she smell bad or something all of it everything everything everything photoshopped pictures gross looking catfish is the word didn't have a car I
04:58:43
SPEAKER_14drove I picked her up I'm a s for that I drove 20 minutes damn big loser on that one what about you embarrassing
04:58:53
SPEAKER_14date as far as embarrassing I think it just depends on the person but I think what was embarrassing is that we both didn't have no money for broke yeah
04:59:06
SPEAKER_14no that was embarrassing most embarrassing date um I don't think I've ever had an embarrassing day what about the date where the guy cried for like 12
04:59:15
SPEAKER_14hours was embarass sorry not 12 hours like you guys had like a deep 12-hour talk in the car a deep talk they that
04:59:26
SPEAKER_14involved crying sounds like a fun time to me okay I loved it it was like a let's go out with the
04:59:36
SPEAKER_14bang 12 hours Mia except there was no bang I remember this one randomly the other day um I thought I was talking to the same person I thought they just had two different Instagram accounts and then I
04:59:48
SPEAKER_14realized while I was on the date with one of them that they're twins and they look identical and they have the same almost name I thought it was just like a fix on like the username only to find
05:00:00
SPEAKER_14out they're the same almost identical and I only found out because the other one text me while I was out with the brother oh you sent this in the notes right I did yeah I just remembered it I was like this is I don't know how I
05:00:11
Brian Atlasforgot this I feel like you're going to be a great Abella thank you in the future I think so too like you have aella Vibes aella Vibes thank you you give you give me
05:00:23
SPEAKER_14Abella Vibes thank you what a compliment that is is that a I think she gives more mom Vibes than a Vibes chill out medison bro she got to be a mom first to become
05:00:34
SPEAKER_14I know but I thought you meant mom in like a kind of sus way mommy way yeah like a mommy way mother thank you I appreciate there's mil Mommy and mom I'm a see okay
05:00:45
SPEAKER_05perfect going to Star here scatological uncore studies donated $100 Brian would you rather sit through the dncc convention or Rock gorlock
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SPEAKER_14underwear as your new face mask excuse me I would go to the DNC convention there's no way I'm putting that wait wait you're doing both for
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Brian Atlasfree huh he's wearing the face Mas to the convention that's right I'm wearing it to the convention this is an unanswerable hypothetical it is it is it
05:01:23
Brian Atlasis unanswerable cuz yeah you can't pick which one you want you want both it's very diff very difficult all right thank you scatological studies was it star how do
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SPEAKER_14you say your last name by the way abalar abalar okay oh you have a be butt head tattoo yeah is it it's like on your leg or something um no it's on my butt okay
05:01:46
Brian Atlasand it's a friendship tattoo with my friend from kindergarten Oh I thought that was cool but I hate it oh you
05:01:53
Brian Atlasokay uh let's see oh did you wait do oh man all I have here in my notes that um
05:02:02
Brian AtlasMaddie gave to me apparently there's cuz she does just um there's one in the pubic area why were you looking at that Maddie she told
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SPEAKER_14me that in the notes yeah is there one you have one in the pubic area I didn't tell anybody that you have a tattoo in your no just what
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SPEAKER_14is it what's the design oh um I just thought it was funny again I was I was 18 and I was stupid it's a cat oh cuz it's on and I love cats py
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SPEAKER_14on and now at 26 I don't think it's funny okay but I still love cats that's how I look in the mirror every day I'm like that's not as funny as I remember getting it matching tattoos are
05:02:49
Brian Atlasthe worst I agree with that I have a matching tattoo so you said last guy I dated well or I'll just repeat it really quick last guy I dated was a virgin and he helped me feel God's presence while I
05:03:00
Brian Atlaswas dealing with paranormal demonic activity he got me closer to God but he didn't work out because well we talk he wants to Mary virgin the guy before him was also Christian but didn't
05:03:11
Brian Atlasget me as close to God he helped me make me Tik Tok famous and we would make viral couple videos together mhm okay so you did you not have a Tik Tok before
05:03:22
Andrew Wilsonyou met that guy no how and how many following uh how many followers do you have on Tik Tok 11 million damn damn did
05:03:31
Andrew Wilsonhe uh did did he have a following on Tik to before you met him uh yeah he had 1 million what was the activ yeah I wanted
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SPEAKER_14to ask like the lights accidentally got shut up by well it was went when I moved into the house I would stay up till like 3:00 a.m. and everyone else would go to bed early and I would hear like people
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SPEAKER_14walking around or banging and I would ask people the next day like was that you and they'd be like no and it happened again andd be like was that any of you they're like no and then some of them even heard it too and they thought
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SPEAKER_05it was me um and then the guy was seeing like he saw well had paranormal activity at his house too miles donated $100 yeah thank you first time donating
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SPEAKER_05being a long time whatever fan thank you w Brian W Andrew and Rachel because of the mimiced feminist to the girl in first seat I've sent my Hubs roses and
05:04:26
Andrew Wilsonbeer on Valentine's Day is that that's like the most awesome thing that I've ever that's the best Super Chat that has ever come in to the whatever
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Andrew Wilsonpodcast on Valentine's Day Ros and beer to the hus like what else could he ever want that's what that's pretty epic that's why he's the that's why he's the
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SPEAKER_14goat the goat I'd prefer the recreational cocaine to like every other week one yeah that's better than the
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Brian Atlasokay you oh the you prefer the Super Chat uh the the TTS about the the coke the recreational drug use that was your favorite Super Chat that came in yeah that's what she's
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SPEAKER_14saying yeah that's like her favorite one of the funny ones no I meant instead of the beer I'd want never mind oh no she pre C she's saying she'd prefer that boyfriend that one the one what's that
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SPEAKER_14new synthetic which one cocaine pink cocaine oh yeah I saw some news story about that app or there's some girl went crazy yeah it's pink cocaine it's just like laced
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SPEAKER_14with like every drug what was the story I read about about that what the fudge some girl like took it and just absolutely went Bonkers something like that there's a there's so much but it was like called
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Brian Atlassomething like that which is weird I watched the Vice on it I watched the vice documentary and then I did some pink cocaine okay uh always so demonic demonic activity anything else uh scoot
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SPEAKER_14can you scoot to the table just a little bit you can scoot the chair too maybe Maddie can be a gentleman and help you rud okay go ahead oh okay yeah so it was
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SPEAKER_14just that and then we had some noises at his house so I brought it there and then um I was very intuitive that week and I knew when things were off so I called
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SPEAKER_14him like I was like is something the matter and in that moment his roommates freaked out because that was like the moment they saw a dark figure at their
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SPEAKER_14house and they were talking about the stuff going on at my house
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SPEAKER_14like what do you mean by dark figure like a shadow a shadow person Shadow it sounds like me and psychosis oh but they all saw it though what the it wasn't their own shadow wait so you did you you saw it with your own eyes no
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SPEAKER_14they all saw it I felt that something was off and I called when it happened and they freaked out do you have neighbors that could have been doing the like the footsteps
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SPEAKER_14the no stepping no but um bad spirits huh yeah I mean this happened also to my uh music manager and
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SPEAKER_14he's not even spiritual religious so things just happen I had to have a a pastor like kind of deliver me and things don't happen anymore wait that's what that's what I wanted to ask
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Brian AtlasAndrew was Andrew not here that's what I wanted to ask Andrew she got an exorcism well it's not like that it's basically just prayer and like I had to like face my own demons and
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SPEAKER_14deliver out like the spirit of Jezebel and like like like the lustful Spirit the wrathful spirit I've dealt with mental health a lot so I didn't understand there was a spiritual side to
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SPEAKER_14it and nothing helps me more than like I went to therapy I went to rehab nothing's really helped me more than like rehab spiritually praying and
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SPEAKER_14fasting it out and stuff like that so what was the process for the exorcism it wasn't like a crazy process it was just praying and fasting so I
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SPEAKER_14just had to fast 12 hours for 2 days and um we would just get on a phone call and then we would just pray no Ghostbusters no it wasn't anything like crazy it's
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Andrew Wilsonjust prayer and fasting it's not really an exorcism to be honest well I mean church church going church going is
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Andrew Wilsonis exorcism in a way right I mean I I fully believe the Demonic is real I'm a very logical person and I usually ground all of my arguments and everything else
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Andrew Wilsonbetween logic and the scientific method but I still think that the Demonic is quite real and I'm glad that you're receiving some assistance for any demonic oppression you have but may I
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Andrew Wilsonrecommend you check out an Orthodox Church as the exorcisms there as part of your actual baptism are the real deal I mean I'm maybe can
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Andrew WilsonI mean yeah I just don't like when people are like forcefully like it's just kind of like nobody nobody's trying to force you
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Andrew Wilsonto do do anything I'm just engaging in dialogue with you suggest I don't even understand why you're so upset anyway like barely said three words to each other I don't even know what you're so
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Andrew Wilsonmad about all the time what are you so angry about I just think you're not very kind to be honest well hang on I'm very kind I'm not particular nice but the thing is is no they're not
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Andrew Wilsonthe same thing kindness is telling the truth niess is lying and that's why they're not the same thing because you said in order to be nice that you wouldn't represent the faith properly and you wouldn't claim
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Andrew Wilsonthat lgbtq does not belong to Christianity in order to be nice that is that is the opposite of kindness kindness is to tell the truth and behalf of Christ you know they don't belong in
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Andrew WilsonChrist's Church if they do it's in a repentant way way only leaving that pathway behind but if they're practicing and they claim that practicing this uh
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Andrew Wilsonand being Christian at the same time are compatible you know that that's not true but you're unwilling to say it in order to be nice and I believe that that is the opposite of kindness so I think I'm a very kind man I think that that's the
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Andrew Wilsonopposite of kindness what you're doing to be to be honest with you
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SPEAKER_14okay what I miss what I miss I don't like arguing kindness we're trying he's teaching kindness for I I go away I go away for like 10 seconds and y'all
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SPEAKER_14talking about like he made a suggestion that she check out an orthodox church that's all okay
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SPEAKER_14um cool so did like your bad spirits go away right away after your deliver I mean I'm still in the process of praying and fasting because they're still there it's not that they're still
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SPEAKER_14there it's just certain like sin that I'm dealing with that I'm trying to like not think so lustfully and stuff like
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Andrew Wilsonthat I feel you I feel you on that it's hard out here to not be lusted make a mockery Brian it the de the
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Brian AtlasDemonic is real whether you think so or not I'm telling you it's real no I was just she she said that she's trying not to lust and I you know how it is you
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Andrew Wilsonfeel you know how it is you know how it is um but uh Andrew do they do exorcisms in in uh Orthodox Christianity yeah it's not the
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Andrew Wilsonsame as as Roman Catholicism where you have uh exorcists in this in this type of way so the Orthodox Church is a continuous lifelong exorcism the ideas
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Andrew Wilsonthat sin itself is a sickness so even in your baptism you are exercised this is uh this is what the point of exorcism is
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Andrew Wilsonthis is a lifelong process to um kind of rebut what is called the Lisi which is the idea of demonic influence which
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Andrew Wilsoncreeps into your thoughts and sin which makes you more susceptible to it so the it's a it's a lifelong exorcism it's not it's not even a one time and done it's every single time you're at liturgy you
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Andrew Wilsonare exorcised that's what taking the Eucharist and the blood of Christ is
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Brian Atlasfor amen yo Andrew really quick totally not dating related Christopher
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Andrew WilsonHitchens said that he thinks the most compelling argument for God is the fine-tuning argument yes this is the
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Andrew Wilsonargument which which is stating that if anything is off by any degree anywhere in the universe the universe does not work and that it's almost a mathemat well it is it's just a mathematical
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Andrew Wilsonimpossibility that that could spontaneously happen that is the fine-tuning argument there's actually uh it's called the god equation and this there's actual
05:13:32
Andrew Wilsonmathematical proofs for this though I usually don't use them because they're very he and I don't actually understand them all myself and so I I feel like it would be disingenuous argumentation to dive into something that I only have
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Brian Atlaskind of a fleeting grasp of okay uh star last notes from you here you said I think modern dating is cooked I feel like people should date to Mary but most people don't even I don't
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Brian Atlassometimes I feel like both guys and girls should wait till marriage for sex even though I didn't but I regret it I feel if people valued having a soul connection and genuine love before
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Brian Atlasanything else there would be less fighting about gender roles and just two people wanting love and care for each other mhm Oh I thought you wanted maybe elaborate or something but it's okay I'm
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SPEAKER_14I can move it on elab I mean like elaborate yeah I guess like um I I do think modern dating sucks and like I
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SPEAKER_14feel like people should date to Mary and sometimes I entertain guys because I'm lonely and I know it's hard even though I'm not ready for a Rel relationship but I don't actually date um so I get it
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Brian Atlasit's hard but I think like that should be the intention do you um are your parents still together yeah okay they've been together for like 30 years good times good time going around the table
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SPEAKER_14I'm just always curious about this uh just parents still together no yes divorced no
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Andrew Wilsonno are you oh yes yeah still together Andrew what about you my uh my parents is that what you
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Andrew Wilsonasked yes I'm sorry still together my my parents are still happily still together nice wait really quick to you this just popped into my mind yes um do you want
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Shannonto get married one day yes will you take your husband's last name sure yeah my last name is very boring and generic so I'm open to taking okay like pretty much
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Andrew Wilsonany other last name I feel like this was a copout hang on I I do I feel like the the answer here is a cop out so you don't like your last name so that's why
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Andrew Wilsonyou're open to it changing I understand that part uh but if you did like your last name would you then be open to changing
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Brian Atlasit yeah I really I don't think it it matters that much to me okay what if you had a dope last name and it was like it was uh Shannon power
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ShannonShannon silver I think my future husband and I would have to talk about which last name we think is better and and then the guy you're dating who you love and adore his
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Shannonlast name is Rumple stillin I don't think it really matters you take you taking Rumple still skin if he had a preference for his last name
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Shannonthen I would take it I don't care either way I don't really like my last just checking there's a
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SPEAKER_05reason chriscore Hitchens donated $100 the universe's fine-tuned constants precise for Life suggest intentional
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SPEAKER_05design over random chance pointing to a higher power God as the ultimate cause designer and sustainer the only my okay so my only concern with
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Andrew Wilsonthis argument is that if you use an argument which is relying on complexity itself it is a fallacious argument so yes it's
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Andrew Wilsoncompelling yes it's hard to refute but I'm not confident that it's actually a really good argument to make this is just my my take on
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Brian Atlasthat damn imagine a Christopher Hitchens Andrew Wilson debate be one for the ages I would do it and I I think it
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Andrew Wilsonwould be fun to do he's he's dead Andrew you know I would still do it from Beyond if the Roman Catholics can dig up a pope we can dig up Christopher Hitchens I see
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Brian Atlasyou want to debate him from no I was just making a shot at the Catholic I was making a shot of the C anyway we're all good going to back to Shannon you said
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Brian Atlasuh let's see marrying oh uh okay marrying a man who is not able to financially provide can cause to live a very unhappy life it
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Brian Atlascan cause sickness and early death in women I have a question for you is there anything else that can cause sickness
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Shannonand early death in women yes there's definitely more than just Financial stressors that can cause that in
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Shannonwomen anything else probably like smoking anything else yeah there's a lot of different things anything else yeah like you're taking a shot at
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Andrew Wilsonsmokers there rude that's just it just caught my eye that you were smoking hang on pink hair that wasn't very nice of her to take a shot at a smoker like that
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Brian Atlaswas it I don't think what you're doing is very nice to you it wasn't you know I think it wasn't really respectful of his identity I think as a smoker he
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Andrew Wilsonidentifies as a smoker I think you own an apology I am so sorry that you're a smoker Andrew his pronouns are I'm really sorry that you work out and are
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Andrew Wilsonreally buff I am working out yeah I've got the video super buff I'm getting there uh so I'm just it
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Brian Atlasso sickness and early death in women to Mar marry man who's not able to financially provide yeah it
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Brian Atlashappens but like what about these isn't the life expectancy pretty high for people who don't have a lot of wealth wait hold on
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Brian AtlasI don't even know what I'm arguing here I don't know like some some you got these really old people in like these wait Villages what the I would say just like just to combat this
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SPEAKER_14like there's a higher or there's a greater likelihood of people that are in love that nurture a relationship emotionally in addition to that of the nurturing of finances would outlive
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SPEAKER_14those of Financial comfort so if you're if you're debating that somebody with financial comfort in a relationship like that a woman that's being supported by a man that she is happier and so she's going to be healthy and she's not going
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SPEAKER_14to endure whatever early death it's not one it's not guaranteed at all but two it's just somebody that's actually supported and emotionally involved with somebody else in a real marriage and a real matrimony or relationship long term they're most likely going to be
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Brian Atlashealthier really quick I have to interrupt this task star question star what are your thoughts on the like the geopolitical uh conflict between like
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Brian Atlasthe the state of Georgia the country of Georgia and like Russia like the Border conflict
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Brian Atlaswhat H I wasn't really aware of yeah that like what's going on in Georgia Georgia he's he's screwing with you and
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SPEAKER_14Russia what do you mean he's screwing with you I'm confused I have friends that are Russ they don't talk about it I live with Russian girls and I don't talk about it so I'm
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Brian Atlasconfused thank you next I'm sorry I'm sorry what I'm sorry star I'm sorry star Morgan put me up to it it was
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Brian AtlasMorgan's fault Morgan whisper in my ear she's like Brian make a joke I don't get the joke
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Brian Atlasokay um so uh also to add I think modern femin this is from you modern feminism has too much black and white thinking which in my opinion has aided in the
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Brian Atlasmale lonel loneliness epidemic do you think that we need like a little more like Latino thinking or like you know Native American you're right like I do think it's really like first it was just white
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Brian Atlasand then they introduced like the intersectional black thinking but I think we need to broaden our horizons with feminism and like get some like
05:22:17
Brian Atlaslike half Italian like half Filipina yeah why not do you speak Tagalog by the way um a little bit not a lot did somebody just fart
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SPEAKER_14Morgan Morgan what you smelt it you dealt it Brian you act like you've like never farted in your life no I have farted
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Brian Atlasyeah I know just now no not not just now okay I'm sorry um do you speak can you speak a
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SPEAKER_14little if like a white guy stepped to you where he is I I kind of understand a little too are you no but I have like
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Brian Atlasfamily that is like half so MIA lay off the protein shakes okay please are you okay I'm good what's going on sorry the caffeine's finally
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Brian Atlaskicking in I've been tired I've been tired the whole show and now right before the end I'm tripping okay would it be hot star if a guy stepped to you like a white dude the
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Brian Atlasmost white dude you've ever seen and he just starts like fluently dropping like some talug my dad did would you be like damn what's up yeah actually well that's
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Brian Atlascrazy because Andrew is actually a flu fluent he's a polyglot he's fluent and toolic go ahead
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Andrew Wilson[Music] Andrew um my dad did that to my mom let's see I'm trying to figure out how to remember Pig Latin I can't even remember Pig I
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SPEAKER_14thought I could just bounce some pig latin off I thought it would be good but um yeah I'm drawing a blank here Brian okay yeah well he has to be like
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SPEAKER_14early 20s we forgot that
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SPEAKER_14part crooked noises C nice oh yeah do you only prefer younger um recently I've been liking younger guys or guys my age I don't know
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Brian Atlasyou feel like older guys Nick's like 22 who's that you think Nick is cute Nick's a virgin too by the way
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Brian Atlasfunny what do you think can I set your up with Nick this is so awkward do you think he's hand I'm sorry do you think he's
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Brian Atlashandsome I don't want to answer that this feel so weird okay look Nick asked me like he's he's a virgin and he like ask me for help so I'm just trying to
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SPEAKER_14help him out I feel like I really doubt he's a virgin doesn't look like a virgin really that's ins judg skat boy donated
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SPEAKER_05$100 Lindsay you better show up to buan on W Victoria Esty at 8:00 p.m. tomorrow or I will eat the meal I order you then order desert and eat the two boom
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SPEAKER_14threatened boom he's Skater Boy feel thre he it's Skater Boy too like ail LaVine yeah he's buff he's buff he's buff yeah he's buff leave him alone I I
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SPEAKER_14will be there you should go I'll meet you there slap into a slim JY can call you what is that is that their catchphrase are you good what's up with those cookies bro
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SPEAKER_14whose cookies are those you they're like cool right yeah they're not like you think they're I don't know Ed it's got the pink cocaine in them for sure I had two cookies bro and
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SPEAKER_14I'm tripping I like they tastes good to me where did you get those cookies man T Trader Joe's tar oh Target okay okay
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Brian AtlasI've never heard someone refer to Trader Jo with see here what do we have to do uh what do we have to do we had a couple more
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Shannonthings would you rather be alone in the forest with a random man or random bear I know most people say
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Shannonbear um I'm not sure I guess
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SPEAKER_14bear a man
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SPEAKER_14you chose bear last time I didn't make it to this last time
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SPEAKER_14oh you're going to die with a bear oh I I think gay guy huh like that
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SPEAKER_14kind of be I just thought about that joke no like like an actual animal be yeah no a random guy maybe he's sweet maybe we're going to fall in love huh said maybe me and the random
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SPEAKER_14guy fall in love the Love Story what you pick it's got to be a bear got to be into the into the mic so the it's got to be the bear Maddie M Dog s
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SPEAKER_14dog I don't know a bear you can like stand still and pretend you're not there but a man he might be nice so maybe a man yeah isn't it if you stand still
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SPEAKER_14with a bear it'll Mor depends a polar bear you're done for I like animals so I'm just going to assume it's a small little bear a little
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Brian Atlascubon Other M dog man okay so wait bear bear I said man no I was pointing okay okay yeah I don't know
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SPEAKER_14bear we going to have to go crazy we going to have to kill the bear then carve his skin then wear his skin as a jacket you know what I'm saying like then we'll Sur free cook them up you can
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Shannoneat them go crazy um I picked the bear because I've just seen a lot of posts online talking about the horrors of potentially
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Shannonpicking a man in the middle of the woods and I just feel like a bear could potentially be safer huh
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SPEAKER_14huh uh why do you pick bear Nick we'll pull up that bear video we have honestly I chose a bear because I kind of know
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SPEAKER_14the ways I could die when it comes to a bear but I feel like with a man like there's way more ways that I could die and have to avoid I feel like I would do
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SPEAKER_14better with a bear yeah mhm so you like seen the online too like the horror stories online I don't do that I don't do horror it
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Brian Atlassounds both of it sounds horrible to me Nick uh pull up the bear video but like skip it to the point where you see the other bear walking if you know what I'm talking about the one in the cars or the cars do you know what I'm talking
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Brian Atlasabout is it gory cuz I don't like that no it's not gory yeah I don't do that yeah you can just play like a few seconds of it so just play a few
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Brian Atlasseconds okay bear walking you see the cars they're kind of moving slowly it's like I don't know if it's it's a I don't know if that's a zoo or probably not a
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Brian Atlaszoo but now I have a question for you would you be more likely to exit the vehicle in that situation or if you just
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Brian Atlassaw like a random man in the ex the same position as that bear just a random man just kind of crossing the road which scenario would you be more likely to exit your vehicle bullet
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SPEAKER_05donated $69 if seat one across from Brian came across a bear I think the bear would
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Brian Atlaseither run away or fall in love with her fall in love Winnie the Winnie [Music]
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Shannonthe um your question was what I rather have a man or a bear at that place near the car and like get out the video we just watched in which scenario would you
05:30:23
Brian Atlasbe more likely to exit your vehicle with that bear crossing right there or if it was just like put a man in position of that bear I'm just like why would I be getting out
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Shannonthough so would you just like guess I guess a man why is that well like I could just get back into my car and drive off I guess but
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Shannonwith a bear I I don't know I feel like they're more easily able to attack if they're like that close
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Shannonup okay um that's interesting that's an interesting one but I thought the men were more dangerous if I'm like alone in the woods
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Shannonwithout like a vehicle and I'm like on foot then I think that's a bit scarier to come across like a random guy cuz in the woods they could have like a gun or [Music]
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Shannonsomething but if you're like close up to them I feel like you can see what they've got going on but a bear is like that close to you they could attack wait just really quick show hands who who
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SPEAKER_14said bear just show hands did you say bear star bear star um I I was leaning towards man but I think I think both are scary like I'm scared to be in an
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Brian Atlaselevator with a man sometimes would you be would you be more scared in an elevator with a man or a bear with a bear but I I understand like it's scary
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SPEAKER_14I just I don't understand what's the chances of like why pick the bear like what what if you're like in like most men aren't just going to attack you if you're in the woods with them a bear
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SPEAKER_14doesn't know not to I just want a bear story see that's valid I want a bear story yeah but if you if it's between the two of them like the chances of a
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SPEAKER_14man actually hurting you in the woods or whatever that percent is a bear is going to kill you like I don't know why men are just as scary as Bears it makes no sense to me now here's a
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Brian Atlasquestion uh would what what do you think the rate rate like the chance of you being attacked by a man
05:32:36
Brian Atlasis in the middle of the wood just like SC so well so here the scenario is it's a totally random man so like you spawn in the forest the man spawns in the forest or if you pick the bear the bear
05:32:49
Brian Atlasspawns in the forest you guys cross paths what percentage of like because you're obviously doing a risk assessment I think like here's my risk of this potentially happening if it's a man so what is the actual risk assessment what
05:33:02
Brian Atlasif you put a number to it how many men do you think would be inclined in this situation to
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Shannonuh attack you essay you victimize you in some way what percent of men um I would say if we're doing like
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Shannonone out of 10 probably like two% percent better I'd say like probably like same 20% 20% of men what about you bear what do you
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SPEAKER_14think wait what is the question chance as a man will attack like a chance as a man will victimize you in some way what percentage of men do you think compared to a bear or just a man in general a man
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SPEAKER_14in general a man in I would say a 50% that's