Plus Size Model ONLY Dates Men Who Make $1,000,000+?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES SHOW! | Dating Talk #189
Date: 2024-08-21
Duration: 7h 16m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_05(audience)
SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Shannon(guest)
SPEAKER_12Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13(guest)
SPEAKER_14(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:59
IntroShannon introduces herself: 28yo, LA, self-employed (influencer marketing, petsitting, reselling).
“hello my name is Shannon and my age is 28 I'm originally from Los Angeles California”
00:03:50
IntroLindsay introduces herself: 20yo, Venice, DJ producer, parents support her financially.
“I'm Lindsay I am 20 I live in uh Venice I'm from Manhattan Beach and I'm a DJ producer and my parents give me money”
00:07:47
IntroStar introduces herself: 26yo, Valley LA, TikTok singer/YouTuber, new song 'NPC' out next week.
“my name is star I'm 26 um born and raised in the valley in LA and I'm a Tik tocker singer YouTuber”
00:40:00
QuoteStar describes becoming celibate after paranormal experiences and religious conversion through a 20yo Christian virgin she fell in love with.
“last day to the Virgin that showed me the presence of God while I was having paranormal Supernatural experiences now I'm super spiritual religious after that and celibate waiting for marriage”
00:56:19
QuoteStar reveals her body count is 24, including hosting a sex party at age 14 that got her kicked out of treatment.
“24 how many men how many women mostly women... six men and I regret part of my body count I got kicked out of treatment at 14 cuz I hosted a sex party”
01:11:31
OtherAbby (chair 4, Ventura) leaves the show ~71 minutes in. Had blood drawn earlier and had a panic attack backstage. Brian announces it on camera.
“she had like a full panic attack... she said she got a blood draw today for the first time and then she said this whole experience just kind of freaked her out”
01:53:33
OtherAndrew Wilson joins via video call after his day debate. Video lag issues at start. Greets the panel.
“how you guys doing tonight doing good how the DEA yeah it was a absolute disaster but oh um yeah just a disaster”
02:16:36
QuoteShannon gives herself a 6.5 self-rating, then Andrew Wilson laughs audibly (mic was on).
“I would give myself a realistic 6.5 [Laughter] my God rud Andrew”
06:16:24
ControversyRachel Wilson (Andrew's wife) crashes the show and confronts Shannon about wanting men to pay on dates while being childfree and feminist.
“Rachel literally got dragged out of bed for this... I hear my husband is a woman hating misogynist and I'm here”
06:20:00
QuoteRachel Wilson delivers argument: women must choose between traditional treatment (men pay, protect) and equality (split costs, handle own problems).
“you guys have to choose do you want to be strong independent equal women or do you want chivalry and protection and provision you want the best of both”
07:01:00
QuoteStar reveals body count is 24 (6 men); Lindsay's is under 20 mixed, under 10 men; Mia's is 11; Morgan's is 1.
“yeah 24... six men... somewhere with under 20 under 10... 11... Morgan one Uno”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Guest introductions
Each guest introduces name, age, location, occupation, and relationship status. Panel: Shannon (28, LA), Lindsay (20, Venice), Ayra (20, Hollywood), Abby (27, Ventura via Kansas), Star (26, Valley LA), Mia Huffman (22, OC/LA), Morgan (18, Bay Area), Ava (24, Santa Barbara).
00:09:20
Relationship statuses and dating histories
Each guest shares current relationship status, longest relationship, and recent dating experiences. Star discusses falling in love with 20yo Christian virgin (incompatibility over virginity pledge). Lindsay discusses talking stages and bisexuality. Shannon discusses 6-month relationship via Bumble. Abby leaves early (~71 min, panic attack).
00:33:20
Hookup culture and sexuality
Lindsay and Shannon discuss hookup culture. Lindsay is bisexual, hooks up with both men and women. Star discusses Christian virginity pact and her own celibacy decision. Extended discussion on who Lindsay is casually seeing.
00:50:00
Who should pay on first dates / chivalry
Extended discussion on whether men should pay on first dates. React videos played. Most panel members say men should pay. Brian argues for women paying their own share as fair given modern feminism. Shannon and Lindsay favor men paying. Morgan neutral. Andrew Wilson call-in agrees traditional arrangement requires women to fulfill traditional roles in return.
00:54:00
Feminism and traditional gender roles
Table-wide discussion on whether guests identify as feminists. Shannon is moderate feminist. Star, Morgan, Ava are not feminists. Debate on modern wave feminism vs. equal rights feminism. Discussion of stay-at-home wife role as valid labor.
01:53:33
Andrew Wilson call-in
Andrew Wilson (Daily Wire) calls in via video chat for ~5 hours. Topics include chivalry and feminist hypocrisy, virginity and body count, the bear vs. man debate, traditional gender roles, abortion, misogyny accusations, who should take the bullet for the other, and laundry/chores. Notable moments: Star accuses Andrew of misogyny; Andrew responds with structured arguments. Video lag issues at start.
02:13:20
Self-ratings (1-10 attractiveness)
Prompted by Stiffler (chat donation). Shannon: 6.5. Lindsay: 9-10. Star: declined (cited malicious intent). Mia: 8.5. Ava: 7 (said 6 last appearance). Brian: 5. Andrew: 4.
05:26:40
Bear vs man debate
Standard Whatever segment: would you rather encounter a random bear or random man in the woods. Panel gives varying percentages on likelihood of man attacking. Brian concludes the women are 'crazy.'
05:38:20
Laundry and domestic tasks
Brian asks if women should do a man's laundry first time visiting his house. Extended comedic segment where Brian admits he expects domestic tasks on first visit. Andrew Wilson agrees with traditional framework. Star and Mia have mixed views. Morgan says no.
06:16:24
Rachel Wilson crashes the show
Rachel Wilson (Andrew's wife, stay-at-home mom) comes downstairs ~376 min. Debates Shannon directly about feminism, childfree choice, men paying on dates, and what women offer in traditional vs egalitarian arrangements. Rachel argues women who want equality should pay their own way. Shannon argues she has intrinsic value as a woman. Heated exchange on traditional vs modern womanhood. Rachel leaves ~401 min.
07:01:00
Body count round
Near end of show. Lindsay: under 20 mixed (under 10 men). Shannon: pleaded fifth. Star: 24 (6 men; mentions sex party at 14). Mia: 11. Morgan: 1.
Transcript
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01:51:19
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Brian Atlasnow I do a dating podcast how my life has gone could have been a director now I'm doing this sh no I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm
01:52:31
SPEAKER_14kidding okay um where were we goals goals no no you like your your you know wait what that's not what we were talking
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SPEAKER_14about I was responding to you I said gos you go I was doing film and now I'm doing this and Andrew's ready I think apparently people are people in the chat
01:52:53
Brian Atlastell me people been telling me when did he send a message excuse me I don't know is
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Brian Atlashe ready Maybe not maybe they're trolling maybe okay sweet all right oh hold on hide that for a bit
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Brian Atlaswhile we're doing that um before you um we should do twitch can you do twitch really quick uh or do you need
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Brian Atlasokay oh look at this guy oh look at his hair look at that copied my hairstyle Andrew can you hear us yeah I can hear you fine man yo what's up man what's up
01:53:34
Andrew Wilsonhow you guys doing tonight doing good how the DEA yeah it was a absolute disaster but oh um yeah just a disaster But ultimately I mean it's all
01:53:45
Andrew Wilsongood you I I don't even know what the what was the topic uh it was on well I can't even I don't even want to get into the topic on you all right that's fine that's fine that's how bad it is when you say it was
01:53:58
Andrew Wilsonbad did you did you lose no oh okay all right no the opposite I mean I I handily handily won it's just that's not what made it bad oh
01:54:10
Brian Atlasokay fair yeah it's a whole it's a whole ordeal it was a whole ordeal welcome Andrew welcome welcome uh so we had a literally shaking quit for the first
01:54:19
Brian Atlastime ever on the show um and it it was honestly oh did he freeze uh is that on is lagging lagging
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Brian Atlaspretty hard on my end your end yeah I think it's your end uh and honestly I it was pretty milk toast it was pretty tame so unfortunate nevertheless uh really
01:54:41
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01:55:16
Andrew Wilsonto get him going here in just a sec let's see let's get into sh Shannon's notes Shannon yeah this is uh I'm sorry Brian I don't mean to cut in
01:55:27
Andrew Wilsonbut this is really lagging really hard on you want to do you want to uh the broadcast you want to try your computer or or restart the call yeah well we'll just restart the restart the call you
01:55:39
Brian Atlasguys just disconnect go ahead uh so Shannon you said that you plus size you only date six to seven figure earning men and you'd love to discuss your experiences you think yours are very
01:55:50
Shannonunique so you said uh only date six to seven figure earning then they don't have to be earning seven figures or anything like that but I do want a man
01:56:01
Brian Atlaswho has a comfortable lifestyle that they're going to be providing okay but so in your pre-show notes and I know you might have sent these in a while ago you did say you
01:56:12
Shannononly date six to seven figure earning men um I try to I try to date men who are around that range and I I'm not not
01:56:22
Shannongoing to date a guy who doesn't have any money or any future um but I'm currently dating someone who I'm pretty sure they don't make six figures but I know they
01:56:33
Shannonhave a comfortable lifestyle hopefully set up for the two of us mhm doesn't that oppose the feminine thing though like no I think that in feminism
01:56:44
Shannonlike women should have choices but what if he said that like that you have to make a certain amount I'm just curious I I don't I don't think he feels that way
01:56:58
Brian Atlasyeah oh yeah um because in your pre-show notes you said you only date six to seven figure earning men I think that was like a couple
01:57:09
Shannonmonths ago when I sent that but it's true I do try to date men who have nice Lifestyles to provide mhm does that not make me a feminist or it just makes me like smart
01:57:23
Shannonyou said that I'm trying to remember exactly how you framed it you said that cuz I was on Gabby podcast and talking about like dating High earning
01:57:34
Shannonmen you you said that feminism is about women having choices yeah what about men having choices or do men not get a choice they can choose to date a woman who is going to be a
01:57:46
Shannonprovider can they though um you know it depends on on their their own I guess situation with
01:57:56
Shannondating right like I've gotten comments from people online saying that my um what I'm asking for is like to I
01:58:09
Shannonguess like they say that I have to reach a certain level to get to that certain level of success for a man and I think it's kind of true for men as well like
01:58:19
Shannonif like it's let's say if I were to to lose weight and like be a quote unquote 10 then I would be able to get more of a
01:58:29
Shannonguy who's like a higher provider if that makes sense so I think men have to sometimes do the same like maybe if they're not somewhere in regards to
01:58:39
Shannontheir looks or social skills maybe they would get a higher paying job to accommodate that or something along those lines maybe they don't make that much but they're really really attractive and then they have to kind of
01:58:51
Shannonwork their their way up to making a certain amount of money if they want to get a certain amount if they want to get a certain type of woman okay I disag goes both ways I
01:59:02
SPEAKER_14think it's the same thing of if you want like people say it's wrong for men to say I want this type of body or I want this kind of girl like I want her to be like a virgin I want this or that and
01:59:14
SPEAKER_14that's like wrong but then you know women could be like oh I want this guy to make this much money and this and that I think it's the same thing like if a girl says you have to make this amount of money and the guy says well I want
01:59:27
SPEAKER_14the girl to look like this or have this quality better like that's where the feminist moving movement kind of get screwed up yeah it's the same thing if like a girl's like I want a guy with a big dick then a guy could say
01:59:40
Brian Atlaswell I want a girl that's skinny and has a fat ass that's true I think or if a girl says she wants a guy with a big dick a guy can say I want a girl with a big
01:59:50
SPEAKER_14labia oh that too whatever the guy wants everyone has choices I only date women who have large laas by the way is that the reason why YOLO didn't work out my
02:00:01
SPEAKER_14what why oh the YOLO girl is that why it didn't work out nah it was the it was the YOLO it was medium size huh it was a midi and you you have that choice of to
02:00:12
SPEAKER_14like your type I feel like everyone has standards like write out a list of like what you want qualities in somebody Thrive I do too that thrive I thrive for the big labia all day every day exactly
02:00:25
SPEAKER_14just write that manifest that in your head right big labia big labia I want that I need that yeah you don't want that you have it that's manifesting I don't want a big laia I have a big laia
02:00:36
SPEAKER_14that's what you got to say I have no I mean like I don't want a girl with the big labia I have the girl she's going to text me right now oh like the secret like manifest you got to manifest that
02:00:49
Brian Atlaslike you already have it you got to be so delusional that it comes true true big laia energy big eny big labia energy 100% yeah I only I will only only date
02:01:01
Brian Atlaswomen they got the surgery too can they extend it Andrew is also you know look I know we're joking I know we're joking around here a little bit
02:01:10
Brian Atlasbut I'm serious but I'm joking but I'm serious I have a nonprofit organization and this is actually this is the serious
02:01:19
Brian Atlasthing Andrew's on the board of directors we're we're going we're going 501c3 any day now nonprofit we're going to start
02:01:28
SPEAKER_14fundraising there it is Big La matter BLM tax write off tax write off start the nonprofit it's how you do it you use
02:01:39
ShannonBLM what what yeah okay yeah it stands for it stands for big laia matter what what I'm just curious what's the problem there
02:01:50
SPEAKER_14yo is it is that is there something wrong with big laia matter what what's your objection n it just caught me off guard you know black lives matter so I I was automatically thinking like like
02:02:03
SPEAKER_14hold on wait a minute nah oh do should I change it do I need to change it you already
02:02:12
Brian Atlastalk about you africanamerican that's right so I get a pass I got the pass God but I I didn't give you the pass wait am I being insensitive to the no
02:02:24
SPEAKER_14because there's so much you want to change it because there's so many like that I I don't think you got blue lives matter black lives matter now big labia matters now everyone gets the protest
02:02:34
Brian Atlasfight of what BLM stands for look nobody owns an acronym okay nobody gets to own an acronym I can use the
02:02:45
SPEAKER_14acronym trademark tears you have to get BLB tatted on your forehead now I'm actually gonna that's a good idea um you know it would be smart to collide the two you
02:02:58
Brian Atlaswould get a lot more sales big black labia matter big black laia is that it hey but they do talk about the BBC so I feel like it would be
02:03:08
Brian Atlasfair yes bblm there's not enough there's not enough advocacy for this is an intersectional organization not only do
02:03:16
Brian Atlaswe care about big labia we specifically we have diie we to have Fair representation big black labia
02:03:26
Brian Atlasmatter I agree maybe we thrown some dwarf yes get dwarf laia matter God oh my God trans
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Brian Atlasoff the rails off the rails and I blame it on on Andrew Wilson blame it all on Andrew Wilson okay um let's get into back to the show
02:03:48
Brian Atlasum I mean that I mean that's fair that's fair that's fair that's fair uh so did you ever have you ever turned down a guy because in the past because
02:04:00
Shannonhe didn't make seven figures um it's not because he didn't make seven figures but it's because I
02:04:08
Shannondidn't see us having a lifestyle that I would be comfortable in I want to be that's a big thing for me is that I really want to be financially
02:04:20
Shannoncomfortable okay uh do you want to be stay at- home stay at home life or um I don't my current relationship I'm in we are pretty much
02:04:31
Shannonon the same page about not wanting to have kids so um I would still keep on having a career and having my own money but I would like for him to be providing
02:04:42
Shannonfor the most part okay but I think if I were to be having kids then of course I'd want someone who's going to be providing 100% but I think women should have their own money how how just
02:04:53
Brian Atlascurious how's your current boyfriend he is turning 39 next week 39 and you said he's not quite at 100K or does he earn
02:05:03
Shannonhe he his income is a interesting situation because he owns a home where he is a landlord on the property for um
02:05:13
Shannondifferent uh tenants that are living there while he pursues his own like creative Endeavors and if you're watching this hun you are a little bit
02:05:22
Shannonof a nepo baby so but not too much not too much okay yeah
02:05:30
Brian Atlasso uh you said in a previous message you were in the top 2% of only fans in 2021 you've also run some of the top accounts
02:05:39
Shannonin the 0.01% yeah so I was doing are we allowed to say the full name or should we say o you can say o that's fine okay so yeah
02:05:51
Shannonyeah I uh I was on o for about a year and a half uh during the pandemic and then I got into a relationship and uh stopped being active but I started
02:06:02
Shannonworking at an agency and the agency had a few different branches to it and one of them was running um of accounts so I
02:06:12
Shannonwas basically helping with the running of certain people's accounts okay um wait a couple questions for you so you did you do plus-size
02:06:24
Brian Atlasmodeling too yes uh but you I saw on your Instagram you're like uh you're trying to lose weight currently right you're D yeah I've lost 70 lbs congratulations oh sorry I meant
02:06:35
Brian Atlasto I'm sorry they're right next I pressed the wrong one um congratulations thank you I need to lose some I need have you have you tried OIC no I I need to get I need to get on that I got
02:06:47
Brian Atlasto lose I got to lose works with the company me and Andrew and Andrew we're joining Weight Watchers any week now any week it's happening yeah I think Weight
02:06:57
ShannonWatchers um probably isn't the best for I don't for they're they're an interesting way to lose weight I guess I lost 20 lbs to got lean muscle when I quit seed oils you're right me and
02:07:10
Brian AtlasAndrew are actually going to do Taio classes together seed oils get the seed oil Scout thing is Taio still a thing Andrew do you want to do like Taio classes no we got to wear like leggings
02:07:21
Brian Atlasthough if we do it okay Andrew with the shorts on top of them yeah yeah you ready for Taio class Andrew Andrew I think I'll pass I think I'll pass on tyo I thought we were going
02:07:32
Brian Atlasto keep each other accountable Andrew I'm going to fly I'm gonna fly over there I'm not I'm flying over there and we're not going to do content we're not going to
02:07:45
Brian Atlastalk business we're not even going to shoot guns we're just going to do Taio classes that's it no no no tyo no tyo is okay all right well you know you're lost
02:07:56
Brian Atlaswhatever yeah I know what was I what am I thinking uh so uh uh was I oh um do you think I I have a shot as a
02:08:08
Shannonplus-size model how tall are you 6 feet 6' one honestly probably yeah for like DXL if you know that company it's like okay so
02:08:20
Shannonplus-sized women fashion doesn't really have that I they have a good amount of options compared to the early 2000s but in regards to men's plus-size fashion they don't have like hardly any options
02:08:32
Shannonbut DXL is a store that they can physically go in person at least mostly in Southern California and um yeah it's like one of the only in-person plus-size
02:08:43
Brian Atlasmale retailers so I have a shot then I think so what size do you wear bra no just like shirt and pants oh uh like XL right
02:08:56
Shannonnow but I should probably like try to get back down to an L honestly you could try is 61 your real XL is like XL plus size um it's like
02:09:06
Brian Atlasit's like you're a mid size at that point I guess is that is that your real height or do you like to I think my pants is like way bigger cuz like the chat keeps telling me that I have like a
02:09:18
Brian Atlasa fatty in the front of the back aump no definitely in the back dumpy wait what's a fat what's a fatty in the front like a FAA like a like AA no no no don't have
02:09:30
Brian Atlasthat yet okay maybe eventually couple more Burgers well let's hope Nots but no they like keep telling me I like a like a dumpy or whatever but so
02:09:39
Brian Atlasit might be like XX L XX on the bottom on the bottom and L on the top XL on the top you're like pear shaped what's oh my
02:09:50
Shannongosh what the you sh like a pair if you got a biggan do that again Morgan do it again Morgan what the hell that's crazy
02:10:00
Brian Atlasyeah yeah oh God I think honestly I think Calvin Klein should hire me they hired plus-size people like I think it's
02:10:11
SPEAKER_14time for plus siiz with The Gap male representation they hire anybody these days yo Calvin Klein get at me and me too me too
02:10:22
Shannonyou going to be plus-sized too I try I want to honestly I can get a few pounds oh my gosh do not try to be plus-sized you can start doing mukbangs oh yeah have you seen Jelly
02:10:32
ShannonBean sweets the rapper no she's a mukbanger you know who I'm talking about probably I watched that s she she's blowing up in a lot of
02:10:46
Brian Atlasways she knows what she's doing um let's see in your notes you said your entire dating history is wild loads of stories dated and traveled the United States for 8 months I can tell
02:10:57
Brian Atlasyou about my experience dating in Chicago New York City Vegas and La I've dated millionaires I've also dated guys who took me to McDonald's in the walk in
02:11:05
Shannonthe park on the first date it's true so like now that I have like what I would consider higher standards for dating I
02:11:14
Shannondid not have the standards that you see here today at 28 when I was younger yeah I feel I feel that and I feel like being part
02:11:23
Shannonof like the of world kind of opened me up to having these experiences with like dating men who had like more resources I
02:11:35
Andrew Wilsonguess to offer cuz I think standards your standards have increased since your youth yes oh pretty typical I would
02:11:49
Brian Atlassay um wait did you do any like pay Pig stuff like the guys were pay pigs oh like I'm a dominatrix or something like fom no
02:11:59
Shannonnot really but you had like sugar daddies um I I guess I I don't really know if I would consider them that but I I guess guys online would send me money
02:12:12
SPEAKER_14any girl here just show of hands had that sugar daddy my actual dad he sends me money nah not even my actual
02:12:22
Andrew Wilsondad um okay may want to think about retracting that statement yeah maybe a little bit um
02:12:32
Shannonwait so okay but you don't do o anymore why did you quit because I got into a relationship with a guy who um was
02:12:45
Shannonwilling to provide me a certain lifestyle so I left and um um just didn't feel like it was right for me to get back into I kind
02:12:55
Shannonof realized that I was interested in talking to just one guy and not talking to a bunch of people on the site what's
02:13:04
Shannonthe uh wealthiest guy you ever dated um any billionaire no billionaire but uh one of my exes was making like
02:13:12
Brian Atlas300K a year okay yeah nice nice uh you said topics you wanted to talk on dating men with money while plus size dating while plus size in general dating while
02:13:24
Brian Atlaslosing weight and desirability politics what's desirability politics kind of like what I was saying before with you ask me oh
02:13:34
Shannondo something about like the scale from like cuz I know you guys rate each other through 1 through 10 we can do that right now I
02:13:44
Brian Atlasmean sure I don't run the podcast I don't know oh so desirability politics is essentially just where you land in the dating Marketplace in terms of your
02:13:55
Shannondesirability yeah but what are the politics of that I guess just like how people feel about like where certain people stand sure
02:14:05
Brian Atlasum uh you know what that's a great suggestion perfect timing Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick
02:14:14
Shannonseven starting with you go ahead I would give myself a realistic 6.5 [Laughter]
02:14:26
Brian Atlasmy God rud Andrew [Laughter] okay triing oh wait I I wasn't muted I'm
02:14:37
Andrew Wilson[Music] sorry yeah dude we could hear we we heard that Andrew oh I'm sorry about that man we could see you
02:14:47
Shannontoo I was laughing at something my chat said if you you don't agree with my 6.5 that's okay that's your opinion what about you um I've been working on my body and
02:14:58
SPEAKER_14like going to the gym every day eating healthy so I'd say a nine 10 because I want to get there I'm like I I feel confident in myself that's why I say that I'm not everyone's like 10 or N9 or eight
02:15:10
SPEAKER_14but I get it you know how long you been silver uh almost 3 years oh okay that's and I work you know I eat he so I'm like I feel confident myself and like where my body's at and everything where before
02:15:24
Brian AtlasI would have looked in the mirror instead of zero so 10 nine cuz I'm I want to I'm still working on getting where exactly where I want also I want to have the chat rate you on something
02:15:35
Brian Atlaschat rate her voice on a scale of 1 to 10 cuz I think a lot of guys kind of like the more raspy I I practiced it for music cuz oh you PR you practiced the
02:15:46
SPEAKER_14rasp six years ago and it kind of you know like that uh the Elvis movie where he just like kept that voice that's kind of like what happened to me I don't know I've seen I I've had like some videos and shows where girls will have a bit
02:15:57
Brian Atlasmore of a raspy voice a lot of guys really like the raspy voice so I'm curious uh so what is it one in the chat how about just I don't know do you guys prefer raspy I don't know whatever uh
02:16:09
SPEAKER_14what about you um I rate myself a 10 always because I look better and better every single day regardless of what happens and I need to always always think that of
02:16:21
SPEAKER_14myself 10 eight on a great day um I don't want to come off vain but I also don't want to feed into that
02:16:33
SPEAKER_14question cuz I feel like he likes to just see women like either degrade themselves or look arrogant so I'm just going to leave that to God wait who who's he whoever Stifler is oh stif
02:16:45
Brian AtlasStifler Steven stiff Steven Stiffler Stiffler yeah I think I'm beautiful inside and out um so 10 I
02:16:55
SPEAKER_14wouldn't say 10 that's kind of vain but I'm not going to rate myself CU I don't like that
02:17:09
SPEAKER_14question if you did like the question though do you have what would you oh my god do you have a number in your head
02:17:18
SPEAKER_14that you know is an answer no I
02:17:30
SPEAKER_14don't is it a 10 but you don't want to sound arant want to sound arrogant now I really don't I really just I really just don't know the purpose of asking that question I think
02:17:42
SPEAKER_14it has some like malice behind it and I don't really appreciate it so I don't want to feed into it mhm okay I'll I'll get back to that in a sec Mia what about
02:17:52
SPEAKER_14you I'd write myself an eight and a half okay like Morgan
02:18:02
SPEAKER_14Ava um I said six last time I would do seven maybe if we were allowed he said you can't do seven I I said I
02:18:13
Brian Atlaswould but it's not so okay all right there you go I give myself a five Andrew what about you four all right uh I need to get up for a
02:18:25
Andrew Wilsonsec Andrew do you have any inquis do you have an inquisition Inquisition what the an inquisition I do have an inquisition or two if you begin your inquiry sir go ahead yeah uh so I I was going to ask you um I'm sorry I wasn't
02:18:39
Andrew Wilsonable to catch everybody's name because I'm a little late to the broadcast the gal with pink hair what' you say your name was star star it's nice to meet you star I I understand why you don't want
02:18:50
Andrew Wilsonto rate yourself because um you find it to be like a a trick question uh but it's really not a trick question I feel like if I can explain to you why this
02:18:59
Andrew Wilsonquestion is asked you'll be far more likely to answer it so the reason the reason that this question is asked is because it's our belief that many many women actually judge each other the
02:19:12
Andrew Wilsonsecond they sit down at the table the second they sit down at the table with other women and if we can get a full camera view of the room real quick um can can you raise your hand if if this is correct that you have either
02:19:25
Andrew Wilsonexperienced this or done it yourself which is okay you've gotone in a room with other women and you immediately yeah rate rate their looks yeah yeah yep
02:19:36
Andrew Wilsonright so because we know that this is true because that is the number one most common answer we feel like when we ask this question to you guys you don't actually want to hurt any of the other
02:19:46
Andrew Wilsongals feelings who might be there and so you answer perhaps Dishon honestly even though we know the chances are pretty good that you've already been comparing yourself to probably every every other woman who's sitting at that table so
02:19:59
Andrew Wilsonthat's what the purpose of the question is not really a trick it's just to kind of assess which gals are going to be honest with us and which ones are not going to be honest with us that's really
02:20:09
SPEAKER_14what the point of it is oh does that make sense I think that's your point but I don't think that was Stifler's point I think that a lot of guys that watch this
02:20:20
SPEAKER_14have an animosity towards women and they want us to rate ourselves to look like a fool or something either to look arrogant or to look over confident or to degrade ourselves and how can you look
02:20:32
Andrew Wilsonlike a fool if you tell the truth I just don't think raing myself is something I owe Stifler well you don't owe it to him no but um you can you can understand that
02:20:44
Andrew Wilsonit seems like kind of foolish to me to say well me telling the truth is going to make me look foolish I mean that's not going to make you look look foolish right the more honest you are with your answer the less foolish you're going to look in fact you can even play it
02:20:55
Andrew Wilsonagainst Stiffler and uh you know give yourself a rating which is more of an assessment of what you actually think uh and that'll that'll probably actually the jokes on him then
02:21:06
SPEAKER_14right well just doing social media I just don't respond to comments that I don't want to and I don't want to respond to his comment cuz he seems weird okay well let me ask you a
02:21:18
Andrew Wilsondifferent question who would you say from your own personal opinion is the prettiest girl sitting at the table the prettiest girl sitting at the
02:21:28
SPEAKER_14table mhm I don't know what's the point of you asking that because I think let me ask let ask you a different question then
02:21:39
SPEAKER_14between myself and Brian which one do you think is better looking damn bro why you why you got I mean none of you guys are my type
02:21:49
Andrew Wilsonso I don't really see as that way I just I mean that's fine we can both be ugly that's I mean that's perfectly acceptable I do like white guys but just 21 year olds Maybe Christian yeah yeah
02:22:02
Andrew Wilsonyeah no that's that's totally fair he's an Orthodox Christian yeah but the the the point of the question is just to assess uh you know like from from your own subjective opinion yes we're not
02:22:13
SPEAKER_14your type maybe we're both once that's totally acceptable too right not going to hurt our feelings I promise this even that comment there just gave me like bad
02:22:25
SPEAKER_14vibes I just know the Vib I know the energy behind and I don't feed into negative energy like that what what's the negative
02:22:36
SPEAKER_14energy intuitively it's not good I think it's variant it's uh trying to be argumentative for something I don't think is good for my
02:22:49
SPEAKER_14spirit I I think if you answer the question it would have been easier and it would have been as argumentative I think it's more argumentative that you keep on dragging it along and saying I don't want to answer you could just answer you just you could give an honest
02:22:59
SPEAKER_14or a fake answer vain or not you could just give an answer when he asked um who's the prettiest I saw you look around first right she I'm curious like you looked around so I was like and then
02:23:11
SPEAKER_14you said you don't want to answer like after you looked around at all of us that's right I just don't understand why I can't not answer like I don't owe you can you can not answer and
02:23:23
Andrew Wilsonyou don't owe anything and nobody's saying you owe anybody anything nobody's saying You must answer the reason that we're wondering why you won't is just simple this I just want the simple
02:23:34
SPEAKER_14reasoning is it just because you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings I know because answering the question wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings okay are you prettier than the girl in chair
02:23:46
SPEAKER_14one that would be the one sitting directly across from Bri than anybody it's simply because I just think that the reason he asked it is because not prettier than anybody at the table you
02:23:57
SPEAKER_14really think that no I'm saying that I don't like look I'm not comparing myself like that oh like I'm not over here like sizing everyone up like I'm prettier
02:24:07
SPEAKER_14than this person it's just that it's simply cuz I don't like his his question why are you asking me to rape myself if any guy asked me that I wouldn't answer it okay
02:24:21
Andrew Wilsonwhat if I mean I can't I can't force you to answer it just seems very disingenuous right I genuinely don't want to answer it and you genuinely don't have I
02:24:32
Brian Atlaswon't oh there was something I totally missed it uh ah well if it comes to me I'll try to remember it well kind of related to this
02:24:44
Brian Atlasgoing around the table we asked this kind of as a follow-up question and just to give a bit of context because you're asking like why do people ask these kind of questions
02:24:54
Brian Atlaswhy does it matter I definitely think like how you self-evaluate yourself is really important when it comes to dating so that's and obviously looks is really
02:25:05
Brian Atlasimportant when it comes to dating so combine looks and then self-evaluation that's going to dictate what you think you deserve in the dating Marketplace it's going to dictate what kind of partner you can get what kind of you
02:25:16
Brian Atlasknow things you can ask for your standards those sort of things um so that's kind of one of the reasons why I think Stiffler and definitely not the whatever podcast asks it that's
02:25:28
Brian Atlasdefinitely why Stiffler definitely asks it definitely not ever the whatever podcast but going around the table do you think you will be better looking in
02:25:38
Shannon10 years time as compared to now starting with you um in 10 years I would be 38 and I hope just keep getting
02:25:49
Shannonbetter and better so yeah yeah mhm okay uh what about in 20 years time um I've seen it like I've seen some women online and in person who I know
02:26:01
Shannonand they age like fine wine I think they just get better and better looking so I think it's possible okay what about uh 30 years time
02:26:11
Shannonum to a certain group maybe yes to a certain group maybe no I don't know in 30 years it's um it depends on I guess what you value in regards to like dating
02:26:23
Shannonand and Beauty Because by the time I'm like 60 uh it's going to be a interesting dating pool and dating Market I guess so
02:26:34
Brian Atlaswho I think I want to try to frame this a little differently tonight so when it comes to a the heterosexual dating
02:26:44
Brian AtlasMarketplace um who are the appraisers of physical attraction action what do you mean so okay do you think that looks are important when it
02:26:57
Brian Atlascomes to dating yeah I think that they play a factor and you date men right yes and do you think men care a lot a little medium amount about looks I think they
02:27:08
Shannoncare I think they care about looks uh generally pretty high I think there's other factors that come into play
02:27:18
Brian Atlasbesides just looks and so the question reframed is then at what age do you think of the the entire population of
02:27:28
Brian Atlasmen do you think you will have the most amount of men attracted to you currently at 28 38 48 58
02:27:40
Brian Atlas68 um because you said you would be better looking at 58 so then would it stand to reason that the vast majority the majority of men would find you at your most attractive at
02:27:51
Shannon58 I would say majority probably wouldn't because I guess the majority of men we're thinking about are looking maybe to get married and have children
02:28:01
Shannonand at that age I wouldn't be seen as desirable to men who are interested in doing that but maybe the people who like your sound
02:28:11
Brian AtlasGils they would be into it mhm so it depends on the guy I guess okay um and then cuz I just one other point of clarification so when we're asking this
02:28:24
Brian Atlasquestion we're not saying that women can't be attractive at 38 48 Beyond Etc we're just asking compared to now like
02:28:32
Brian Atlasyourself will you be more attractive 10 years time 20 years time 30 years time Etc
02:28:41
Shannonum so far I feel like I've gotten more attractive as I age so maybe not my Peak at 38 but I think maybe like 32 I'll
02:28:52
Brian Atlasprobably be the most attractive in my own opinion got it and then are you more attractive now at 28 than you were at
02:29:01
Brian Atlas18 I would say yes okay all right what about you uh you're 20 do you think you'll be more attractive at 30 than you are now my mom
02:29:13
SPEAKER_14is the most beautiful person I know and she aged like fine wi even my friends are like hitting on her so I think took some mil pretty much not for me though
02:29:22
Brian Atlasbut obviously but also how old's your mom she's 57 she's older my gr my parents wait your your like 20-year-old male friends are hitting on your
02:29:35
SPEAKER_14mom my my actual porn star friend he's hitting on my grandma who's 90 uh 86 mil Gil what and my grandma hits on him back
02:29:47
SPEAKER_14by the way what that's she wanted she asked for a video of his porn so basically my oh my
02:29:55
SPEAKER_11God she goes yeah it just keeps popping up on my phone now bro yeah but yeah disgusting I can't believe you even said that on on YouTube you see you just said that on YouTube AIO I'm sorry to the
02:30:06
SPEAKER_14world please don't listen to this I'm sorry for her I'll pray for her basically my whole family is beautiful
02:30:12
SPEAKER_14so I feel like I'm going to age good okay uh so uh better looking at 30 then
02:30:22
SPEAKER_14no I'm just saying I'll look good at stop it get some help I'm just saying I'll look good at 30 am I not making sense you gave that
02:30:34
SPEAKER_14am I making you're making like buildup no I mean I the buildup is just like I know I'm going to be hot like for the rest of my life but like I'm peeking right now I feel like oh okay yeah cuz the question is just will you be better
02:30:46
SPEAKER_14looking in 10 years's time I miss you'll still be attractive but you're saying now is like the peak what it's Prime Time prime time it gets worse from prime time at Arby's um that didn't make sense they
02:30:58
Brian Atlashave the meat I don't knowm yeah there you go Hash A matter all right what about you you're 20 do you think you'll be better looking in 10
02:31:07
Brian Atlasyears time yes 20 years time at 40 compared to 20 maybe cuz yeah you're 20 so better
02:31:17
SPEAKER_14looking at 30 better looking at 40 better looking at 30 yes but 40 maybe maybe what did you say last time I said yes okay
02:31:28
SPEAKER_1450 maybe 60 I don't know it's just because my family they age like fat in like like
02:31:40
SPEAKER_14fat yes like so why would you say yes F no like what I mean is that like my family they started to get all like depressed and like it's just SC scary like they they let go of themselves in a
02:31:52
Brian Atlasway of not even just physical appearance but mental and it's just like I don't know I hope I don't look skip Madison because we've heard her answer a million
02:32:00
SPEAKER_14times uh star what about you I don't know it's possible you're uh 26 right yeah I mean I get better
02:32:12
Brian Atlaslooking every year I don't know when it'll stop do you think uh you'll be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26 um possibly cuz maybe I'll be more fit and work out more CU I don't really work
02:32:24
Brian Atlasout a lot right now what about in 10 years time another 10 years time so 20 years uh 46 as compared to now at 26 I mean realistically no okay and then do
02:32:35
SPEAKER_14you think you're better looking at 18 as compared to now no so better looking now okay Mia I think I will definitely look very
02:32:45
SPEAKER_14attractive when I'm older but I think as of right now this is my Peak okay so better looking at 32 or no I think I'll definitely be very attractive I think I'll age well but I don't think I'll be
02:32:56
Brian Atlasbetter looking at 32 sure um so I think it was just you and you that said better looking in 10 20 30 years time or also star just for the 10
02:33:07
Brian Atlasyears though um I think like 5 years time not maybe not 10 that's when you you'll peek in 5 years around that oh I see okay
02:33:18
Brian AtlasMH okay um um interesting interesting answers are you going to look better in 10 years no it's downhill from here H
02:33:30
Brian Atlasactually I mean there there can be arguments that can be made I don't fully buy into like the whole like across the board men age like that whole men age like fine wine I think there's differences between men and women
02:33:42
Brian Atlasthere's definitely differences when you look at actual they've done studies and they'll have like women across all ages apprais men various ages and you have men of all ages appraise women of all
02:33:53
Brian Atlasages women do have a tendency to like find men around their age a little bit older as the most attractive as they get older whereas men it tends to stay
02:34:05
Brian Atlaspretty static throughout their entire lives in terms of what they find most physically attractive I think they typically put it between like 20 and 22 I like older men so I think guys just
02:34:14
SPEAKER_14get more attractive yeah yeah like 50 cut off but you know like but I mean there's plenty of guys who also don't people do let themselves go but like if
02:34:25
Brian Atlasyou're a fit like you know Equinox like 48y old you're my type like I think I was better looking when I I'm uh 35 I was better looking when I was 25 to be honest even if I was like the exact same
02:34:37
SPEAKER_14weight I'm pretty confident I was better looking at5 I think I think you can make yourself as attractive as you want like your goals can you yeah I genuinely think that not like plastic surgery I
02:34:49
SPEAKER_14think if somebody works out and gets the type of body they want their confidence goes with their style I think confidence is key to look attractive it's the way you walk it's the way you talk it's the way you dress in my opinion I think
02:35:01
SPEAKER_14everyone's attractive but they just have to put the effort in like anyone could be successful too I don't really feel like arguing that but I think there's just some people
02:35:12
Brian Atlasthat are kind of doomed yeah I I do agree with that that's fair doomed doomed anyways it's not really worth arguing that one but um did you have more of any more inquiry
02:35:23
SPEAKER_14Andrew did you want to inqu I think that that is worth arguing a little bit right so um confident and ugly is still ugly true I'm saying if you put in the
02:35:35
SPEAKER_14work to be attractive you can't be like the grossest looking person and have confidence I think confidence and effort go together hand in hand to get that attractiveness like if anyone here like
02:35:47
SPEAKER_14I'm not saying anyone's bad I'm saying if anyone here wanted to like completely get just like ripped at the gym and like dress better like you could get there yeah but if we assess this if we
02:35:58
Andrew Wilsonif we assess relationships I think inside of a relationship the most common answer that I hear is the attractiveness the physical attractiveness has to be there right the both both parties have
02:36:10
Andrew Wilsonto be physically attracted to the other party they have to if there's no if they're not attracted to them they don't have any interest in them whatsoever right so that that has to be there so
02:36:21
Andrew Wilsonyou could say confidence is uh is key to making yourself more attractive I don't even disagree but I think that it is mitigated by your physical characteristics more than anything else so I think that your attractiveness is
02:36:35
Andrew Wilsongoing to be your physical characteristics that's going to be the primary and then other kind of like subsets like maybe um a good sense of humor confidence level things like that I think that those matter but to a way
02:36:47
SPEAKER_14lesser degree would you agree with that I think everybody has a different type I think confidence is attractive and I like you know different features than you might like and everyone else likes so when but hang on hang on let me let
02:36:59
Andrew Wilsonme stop real quick we'll just back up a little bit I'm not disputing that everybody's going to have different tastes they're all going to have different preferences this kind of thing some men like brette some men like blondes blah blah blah blah blah I agree
02:37:11
Andrew Wilsonwith that however there are beauty standards and characteristics uh which we can all agree we all pretty much want so here let me give you an example raise your
02:37:22
Andrew Wilsonhand at the table if you would like to increase your
02:37:29
Andrew Wilsonweight you can raise it no nothing no yeah just maybe Madison right uh so one out of all of you so clearly you must
02:37:39
Andrew Wilsonthink that thinner is more attractive right M that's what I'm saying and this is these are like universals though and and if these are universals then there has to be some things that we're all basically agreeing on when it comes to
02:37:52
Shannonphysical characteristics I think it depends on who you're asking because there is like that little subgroup online that's interested in larger women but I'm not disputing that yeah so I'm
02:38:04
Andrew Wilsonnot disputing that there's going to be outliers to this I'm not disputing that there's not going to be like talk about there's some guy out there who wants a a double burn victim who has her tongue hanging out through her teeth and
02:38:17
Andrew Wilsona hunch on her back I'm sure that that guy exists somewhere on this planet okay but I'm not talking or speaking to him I'm speaking to just kind of generally
02:38:27
Andrew Wilsonwhat people find attractive in other people so while I can say I think that men definitely prefer uh blondes or brunettes I think that they still prefer them to be on the thinner side with kind
02:38:39
SPEAKER_14of uh with a with a curvy waist and big boobs I think that they can there's like going to be some universals there right that's what I'm saying is you could get there like not all the time but most of the time you can work out and get that
02:38:51
SPEAKER_14skinny body like you you earn those things is what I'm getting at like you're not born and you're not destined to have these things you could change these characteristics if you want to be brown have brown hair you dye your hair
02:39:02
Andrew Wilsonbrown if you want to be fit you go to the gym you eat healthy that's what I'm getting at is you can change I'm not really disputing that I'm just saying how much of that does confidence play into and I'm not confident that it plays
02:39:13
Andrew Wilsoninto a lot so I would say that a person for instance on the hang on hang on let me finish my point I would say on the person's side where let's say that they're not very confident a man is not
02:39:25
Andrew Wilsonvery confident but he has very chiseled features he's tall and he makes a lot of money that women will still find him more attractive than they will a short bald guy who uh who's fat I think that
02:39:35
SPEAKER_14they I was hanging out with a guy that was perfectly my type um but he was so he was he was like also a crier he was also like oh my God I'm fat I need to
02:39:46
SPEAKER_14lose weight and it was so unattractive to me and and he was like my yeah I know but you were hanging out with him right I we stopped hanging out because he but you were hanging out with him right up
02:39:57
Andrew Wilsonuntil he got so but you were hanging out with him which means the physical characteristics trumped at least for a Time the Personality yeah but it was unattractive to me how he acted sure I'm
02:40:10
Andrew Wilsonnot saying that it couldn't that there couldn't be things very attractive people do which are so annoying that it'll drive you away from them I'm just saying that the key quality that we're looking for seem seemly is there has to be some sort of Attraction so even if
02:40:22
Andrew Wilsonthis guy was super annoying and you ditched him you were still with him right you were still with him for at least some length of time based on the fact that like you said he was totally your type
02:40:33
Andrew Wilsonright that's valid I mean yeah I but yeah I'm saying the confidence would have made him more attractive yeah I'm sure I'm sure it would have but to what degree if you to
02:40:45
Andrew Wilsonwhat degree because the thing the reason you were with him is because of these other characteristics besides that thing right yeah I'm I'm yeah I think the way you talk the way you walk if you go
02:40:57
SPEAKER_14around thinking you're the baddest in the room I think that's attractive maybe that's you know just me mhm and I think that being confident in yourselves gives
02:41:06
SPEAKER_14you this like more outgoing vibe to you that like changes your perspective and I'm seeing that goes along with how you look I know we're talking about looks here I think it goes along with looks
02:41:18
SPEAKER_14because if you're conf you stand up you look taller if you're confident you go outside more and dress like in more flattering clothes like that fit you better rather than a big hoodie that hides your body if you're confident that
02:41:30
Andrew Wilsonmeans you probably have better mental health and you're actively working on how you look confidency can be described in many different ways like there's very ugly men who are very very confident right perhaps they have some skill set
02:41:42
Andrew Wilsonor something like this which drives the ego up and the confidence up who knows right yeah but but ultimately I'm not disagreeing that confidence is not or an attribute that women would want I'm sure
02:41:54
Andrew Wilsonthat it is I'm just saying that initially there still has to be the physical attractiveness for you to even give him a shot to even learn what his personality is to know if he's confident
02:42:05
Andrew Wilsoncorrect yeah so I'm thinking I so I think on the category scale here then we're still looking for physical attractiveness first that has to be
02:42:14
Shannonpresent I think in regards to like dating apps and men dating in general um on both ends with the confidence part I think that you would have to have
02:42:24
Shannonenough confidence in yourself to even get on the app or to go out and try to date so I think that confidence plays a factor in just your availability on the market in general cuz if you're
02:42:35
Shannonconstantly thinking oh I'm not good enough or oh I'm not going to even try to date then you're kind of limiting yourself to the opportunity to get out
02:42:45
Shannonthere and date so well I think like even for myself you can better your looks I think you do have to have some sort of internal confidence to even get to the
02:42:55
Andrew Wilsonpoint of dating yeah but I think that that's tangential so the thing is is um Let me let me give you an example of what I mean let's assume for a second that you could only pick between two guys and these are the only two who are
02:43:07
Andrew Wilsonavailable you're on a desert island okay one one is 5'2 he's bald he's short and he's fat guy to is 6'2 he has abs full
02:43:18
Andrew Wilsonhead hair right and uh you know the colored eyes that you like uh which guy would you pick and oh by the way first guy short bold fat guy super confident
02:43:29
Shannonguy to he's a little shy I would need to know more about them than physical appearance and if they're shy if we're strained on a desert I just want to get with the attractive guy I
02:43:41
Andrew Wilsonjust don't want to like hear him talk I'll walk away and find water right exactly and I think that that's a that's an honest answer right I think the honest right on that aspect I think the honest answer is hey look I'd much
02:43:52
Andrew Wilsonrather be with the attractive shy guy I don't have to deal with his right I would still physically prefer him and that needs to be present right I think we're on the same page I think what I'm getting at is confidence plays a factor
02:44:05
SPEAKER_14and it's not the full thing I agree with you it's not everything I just think it does play a huge factor in how you value yourself and who you go for I wonder how much it plays because I think I think it does play Factor I'm not I'm not
02:44:17
Andrew Wilsonmitigating that right but let's say this is the other reason we use this kind of like point scale system 1 to 10 right so I think if you're a five as a guy and you're super confident and you do a lot
02:44:29
Andrew Wilsonof work on your body to make it physically attractive you could maybe bump that up two points you know maybe and that's really trying everything maybe you can bump it up two points I
02:44:40
Andrew Wilsonthink that um for women going from a four to you know a six or a seven that's really just a matter of losing some weight generally and that's really it doesn't take much more than that right it doesn't take
02:44:52
Andrew Wilsonmuch more than that so I I still think that physically attractive men the pool of them is much smaller from what women consider to be physically attractive than the other way around meaning um
02:45:03
SPEAKER_14what women find physically attractive and Men I like fat men sometimes I like a fat Daddy
02:45:13
SPEAKER_14what was that guy who you beat up was he fat he used to be fat that's what he lost weight and then yeah that's you beat him up he had to be able to run
02:45:24
SPEAKER_14away from you yeah he was running away yeah H interesting uh we have a chat here from Killa of cial Maddie can I have you read it mhm time takes a toll on us all an objective reality of how
02:45:37
SPEAKER_14biology Works you've seen those time lapse videos of decomposing roadkill right would you rather eat a rotten apple or fresh one what I have seen those time laap is
02:45:50
SPEAKER_14[Music] um appreciate it good to see you in the chat kill of Cal from Noah in my experience the more money you make the
02:45:59
SPEAKER_14less a man's look matter to looks matter to women
02:46:06
Andrew Wilsonh x word yeah but then this brings up the question of is she there for you or is she there for your wallet
02:46:17
Andrew Wilsonright that's that's where the this is where the kind of decisive conversation comes in people have bad motives like I don't think it I think it makes you more
02:46:29
SPEAKER_14attractive because your wallet's attractive not cuz you're attractive right I agree exactly do you think that's maybe why like you also like older guys is there is there actually