Diagnosed Psychopath?! Doomsday Desiree DESTROYED By Based Grace & Shina?! | Dating Talk #186
Date: 2024-08-12
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sheena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Allison(guest)
SPEAKER_05Riley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
Key Moments
00:04:17
IntroShirley JW introduces herself as 33yo LA-based journalist/host with hip-hop background.
“My name is Shirley JW. I'm 33 years old. I'm based in Los Angeles. I'm a journalist on-camera host.”
00:05:02
IntroDesiree Noel (returning) introduces herself as 38yo Southern California single mom.
“My name is Desiree Noel. I am 38, from Southern California.”
00:06:05
IntroVic introduces herself as 23yo East Coast TikToker diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy.
“I'm Vic. I'm 23 and I'm a content creator on TikTok. I was diagnosed with ASPD.”
00:16:07
IntroRiley introduces herself as 31yo LA recording artist doing witchy dark R&B.
“Hi, my name is Riley. I'm 31 and I'm a recording artist.”
00:19:30
IntroSheena (returning) introduces herself as 50yo entrepreneur, former Israeli actress.
“I'm Sheena. I'm 50 and I'm an entrepreneur. I was an actress for 20 years in Israel.”
00:19:54
IntroJennifer introduces herself as 26yo originally from El Salvador, Lyft driver.
“My name is Jennifer. I'm 26, almost 27. I'm coming from Thousand Oaks, originally from El Salvador.”
00:20:22
IntroAllison introduces herself as 30yo evangelist from Wisconsin/Texas.
“My name is Allison. I am 30. I am an evangelist and I work for a tech company.”
00:20:33
IntroGrace introduces herself as 19yo UCSB math student.
“My name is Grace. I'm 19. I'm a student at UCSB. I'm originally from Southern California. I'm studying math.”
00:24:13
QuoteVic describes her ASPD as feeling like a video game — clicking yes to every risky prompt with no fear.
“It's kind of like a video game... a prompt comes up and tells you if you continue this could happen... and I always click yes.”
01:21:36
QuoteRiley shares that her brother is clinically schizophrenic, shot up a gas station, and she fought for his sentence to be reduced — emotional personal disclosure.
“My brother is clinically schizophrenic... he shot up a gas station... we fought tooth and nail to get him his sentence lowered.”
01:42:36
QuoteDesiree claims to have six active friends-with-benefits simultaneously, prompting strong reaction from Sheena.
“I have six guys that I have sex with.”
01:46:30
QuoteSheena tells Desiree that without her vagina she is nothing, prompting outrage from panel.
“Without your vagina you're nothing. Without your vagina you're empty. Your mind is empty.”
01:59:55
QuoteSheena says she believes people have demons and spirits; calls Desiree demon-possessed.
“I do believe that people have demons and spirits. And I think you are demon possessed.”
02:02:07
ControversyAllison calls Grace "Jezebel Antichrist" and shouts at her during demon-possession vs. mental illness debate. Escalates to full panel argument.
“You are definitely a demon. Jezebel Antichrist.”
02:13:56
ControversySheena confronts Desiree and Grace during the sex work debate, accusing them of being mentally ill and empty.
“You girls speak like you're intelligent with nice words but deep down you're super empty.”
04:30:00
ControversySheena repeatedly calls Desiree "dumb" and "crazy" over disputed military claims (Desiree's fast-track to combat surgeon story).
“You are dumb. You are dumb and crazy. That's why you're on this show — you're the entertainment.”
04:48:00
OtherShirley and Riley leave the show mid-way (~4:47) to be replaced by Morgan and Maddie in the second panel.
“Shirley and Riley thank the audience and depart.”
Topics Discussed
00:04:17
Guest Introductions
All 8 first-panel guests introduce themselves. Vic (ASPD/psychopath TikToker) receives extended discussion on her diagnosis, symptoms, and risky behaviors.
00:06:05
Vic's ASPD / Psychopathy Discussion
Extended exploration of Vic's ASPD diagnosis — diagnostic criteria, lack of fear response, manipulation, impulsivity, risky behaviors during pandemic (drugs, homelessness, near-death). Chat and other guests push back.
01:20:00
OnlyFans and Sex Work Debate
Debate between Grace/Allison (critical of sex work's societal impact) and Desiree/Riley (defend personal autonomy). Sheena adds older-generation perspective. Very heated.
01:34:51
Prostitution as Oldest Profession Debate
Discussion on prostitution, marriage-as-transaction, bride prices in Africa, cattle exchange.
01:49:20
Relationship Status Round
Brian asks each guest about current relationship status, time single, longest relationship. Desiree: seeing someone casually. Sheena: seeing someone (3-month rule). Riley: single 1 year (4-yr prior longest). Vic: single 2 years (6-month longest). Shirley: single (no guys). Jennifer: "single but never alone." Allison: single (several months). Grace: single 3 months (2-yr longest).
02:00:53
OnlyFans Platform Experience (Shirley)
Shirley shares she was onboarded by OnlyFans as a journalism/media personality, expecting to teach journalism. Found it was the opposite of what was advertised. Describes accidental exposure to sexual content.
02:02:07
Mental Illness vs. Demon Possession
Allison and Sheena argue mental illness = demon possession. Grace pushes back with schizophrenia/psychosis examples. Riley shares personal experience with schizophrenic brother. Allison yells "Jezebel Antichrist" at Grace; escalates to shouting match.
02:08:00
Racial Preferences in Dating
Grace discusses never dating Asian men (relates to difficult upbringing with traditional Asian parents, healing Asian identity trauma). Shirley teases her dating history (Persian, white rebound, Black ex).
02:19:56
Self-Defense and Men Hitting Women
Prompted by Shirley's viral Jesse Lee Peterson clip on the topic. Around-the-table answers on whether men can strike women in self-defense.
02:31:59
Self-Ratings Round
Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 on looks (can't pick 7). Shirley: 5. Desiree: 4.5. Vic: 5. Riley: 8. Sheena: 6. Grace: 6. Allison not captured clearly. Desiree explains she rated lower because Sheena rated herself 5 and she considers herself Sheena's "slave" so can't rate higher.
03:15:00
Race and Representation Discussion
Riley raises systemic racism in casting of TV shows. Sheena (as Israeli immigrant) counters with observations on US race dynamics vs Israel.
04:30:00
Military Claims / Stolen Valor Controversy
Desiree claims she enlisted in the Army (2009) and was told she could fast-track to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS messages disputing this. Brian reads them. Desiree eventually says she got pregnant and received a discharge before basic training.
04:30:00
Desiree Military Claims Challenged
Sheena calls Desiree a liar re: fast-tracking to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS calling it stolen valor. Brian reads messages live.
04:45:00
Age Gap Relationships Debate
Second panel joins. Vic argues age-gap relationships are "worthy of judgment." Discussion on power dynamics and maturity.
06:10:00
Roast Section
Closing roast segment. Audience TTS messages roast each guest. Brian reads them. Desiree is primary target; Grace receives mostly positive comments.
Transcript
Page 5 of 8
03:48:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)words I said three words and she can't help herself holy bro how did you make it to 38 white privilege to be
03:48:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)honest honestly I can been hand honest have you ever been like jumped or beaten up for saying stuff like that no I don't because I have hos White Privilege so
03:48:30
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)people are actually very nice to me usually I mean it's just the facts the matter how do you think I I didn't have to play by the society I okay let him talk I'm trying to listen
03:48:42
Brian AtlasI'm honestly uh I'm just going to move it on but I think I was just going to say that was a good point no it's like I think I was just going to say it's if there's something wrong with the order you can just be
03:48:52
Rileylike oh hey excuse me I think there's something wrong and that's no it doesn't always go like that sometimes we get some push back from the waiter no you just say oh I didn't want ketchup on my burger can you fix no sometimes they're
03:49:05
Rileylike no you didn't say no you didn't say no ketchup for it's always like I would never ask my girlfriend to like can you please talk to the it's not like that oh I can't have
03:49:18
Sheenasocial interaction I don't think it was in that manner I think it was like you got this babe like Riley yeah can you please talk to the waitress
03:49:30
Rileyfor me this is the problem with men right here this is the problem with men right here you guys can't take a backseat if a woman is backat no even if I was with a male friend I wouldn't be
03:49:41
Brian Atlaslike oh Connor can you please can you please talk to the waiter for me I'm so scared to talk to the waiter some people are afraid of
03:49:52
Brian AtlasConfrontation it's not a confrontation it's just like conflict it's not a conflict it's just like oh hey I think there's a mixup can if it's that big of a deal honestly if it's a minor thing I'm just going to be
03:50:04
Brian Atlaslike it whatever if it's a big deal they up the thing I'll just be like got feelings too like they got feelings too what like they can't just okay let me ask you a question
03:50:16
Brian Atlasbro you think you think it's yeah that's what you did you were just like Bo this is just like basic human1 hold on wait okay so you're saying let's say you go to a uh like a restaurant where you have to go to the
03:50:28
Rileycounter to order and if your boyfriend was like babe can you order for me I'm scared to order that is not how he that is exactly what you're talking about no
03:50:39
Rileythat's not it like it's just he's like did they M they didn't bring us the thing or they didn't put this here they didn't put the sauce they forgot the wings yeah they forget the I be like oh
03:50:50
Rileyexcuse me I think forg the looking at the Mill if the mill is trash like cuz we we're like foodie so we spend a lot of money on restaurants so when you go and you get bad service it's like he
03:51:01
Rileydoesn't want to be the the angry he he he just doesn't want to be the angry black man going off on like the waiters so then I have a softer voice angry black woman but to them they don't see it as
03:51:14
Brian Atlasangry black woman they just see somebody speaking to them yeah so I don't think wait if a if a black man makes a complaint about the that doesn't make Ang stand for yourself but you got to
03:51:26
Rileyunderstand he's like that's what I'm saying the black experience is so intricate because like to black men they don't want to come off a certain way because it's like it's a thing within the black community you don't want to
03:51:38
Rileyovert talk or you don't want to sound assertive because people might think Ang black person I've never been in your place so I canot judge you maybe if they up your
03:51:49
Rileywing order you're going to be like oh babe yeah when I was babe can you talk to them for me no not like that it's just like I don't know you just don't want to come off like the Angry Black
03:52:00
Brian Atlasthat is really terrible wow you know what this is why actually when I go to restaurants and I'm you know if like I'm out of the restaurant with a girl um I don't want to come off as an angry
03:52:11
Brian Atlaswhite man because of all my male white male priv so any I actually instruct why are you doing this I tell my girlfriend like my girlfriend if I'm you know whatever I'll be like hey can you just can you just
03:52:25
Sheenaorder for me can you just order for me do you have a girlfriend I cannot confirm or deny that's why can't you confirm or deny I am BOS Russ you guys know if he has a
03:52:37
Brian Atlasgirlfriend sh that's right I'm a virgin thanks for having my 35y I'm a virgin will you be my first just
03:52:47
Sheenakidding the power no he's in love with Des secretly he justes the um so anyways anyways I never kiss and tell I kiss and tell what happened with
03:52:59
Brian Atlasnothing bro nothing I want to know what happened with him I'm curious nothing nothing is that a confirmation literally nothing nothing I don't know why I broke people even
03:53:09
Brian AtlasAndrew was like oh so Brian you going to hit it I'm like no I'm not okay anyway damn so not sorry I don't know you can only Brian has you're like my brother
03:53:21
Allisongross and I have a question for the girls too I do got to move it on question I got to move it on I'm sorry had a question no well we can get to but I do want to ask the girls that question about if you like start liking a guy but
03:53:33
Allisonhe flirts heavy with every single girl oh that's does it not make not interested and if if you're watching this it makes it's a bad guy you don't
03:53:43
Rileywant to play with a guy like that no I hate the guys that hit on you and when you deny them they try to go talk to your friends after like do you think we're still like like they're going to
03:53:54
Brian Atlastell us about are you insane to go hit on like that's insane so uh let's do here hold
03:54:04
Brian Atlason okay we will do would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear the scenario random what what random man or random bear now the scenario here
03:54:15
Brian Atlasis there's no motivations as to why the man's in the forest so you can't be like well why is he there it's just you get randomly dropped he gets randomly dropped you get randomly dropped random
03:54:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)man random bear starting with Shirley uh man okay Des R man I have a question about is it a like a forest as in it can't be a
03:54:38
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)polar bear or could it can be a it can be so it's random bear then man okay
03:54:46
Sheenaman bear okay of course men they are protectors I love men men man man why did you say bear cuz you want to die you want to try
03:54:57
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)something new I would love to hear this she want to try something new go ahead maybe but honestly I think it's just because like what if what if I can like tame the bear like what if I can like
03:55:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)actually teach it to do like what I need it to do get the r get the Russian get the you guys I was on this show like maybe what two weeks ago or something and there's a there was a Russian girl
03:55:22
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)on here that's not racist like that's what like and she was saying that she would tame Bears she was saying that she would like pet Bears cuddle with them in Russia I mean Bears aren't like but but
03:55:33
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)she went to the extent of saying she would rather go to a bear cave with with a mama and a papa bear and cubs then go to a frat house and ask for directions she
03:55:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)is crazy full heartedly was like a 30 minute conversation why Bear yeah why bear bear like I can tame it like I can
03:55:54
Brian Atlastell it what you cannot tame a bear it's a wild bear yeah what if I have skill that you don't know I do you have skills yeah tell me about your bear tell me
03:56:04
Morganabout your bear taming skills go ahead no let's just not discuss that what if I do have skills and you don't even know about them what if I do like know how to
03:56:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)do that do you maybe do you maybe maybe the really took the bear she's standing on business I swear what if it can like find me food I mean you can learn
03:56:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)anything on YouTube these days so it's not it's not impossible I would YouTube it for sure there survival shows I mean remember if you guys any survivalists I think they would rather pick a man than
03:56:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)a bear I mean why are they on there has anybody in this room like actually come face to face with a bear before no no I have like several times my life and you chose a man and I and I
03:56:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)chose a man um reluctantly but like Bears aren't really like that aggressive like genuinely they're really not like inherently aggressive they only become aggressive when you're like threatening
03:57:00
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)them or in their territory or whatever um but I do think it's like more likely that the man's probably not going to harm you than the bear would harm you but like I don't think I don't think
03:57:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)it's like that crazy of a leap for people to say bear over man because bear would alive it's insane Bears really aren't that scary and all of you guys can like say oh my God bears are so scary but like have you none of you guys have come across a bear in the woods
03:57:24
AllisonI've come across a bear in the woods like are more unpredictable being dropped in the woods with egg right like don't you feel like you would have like if I had to defend myself I would want
03:57:35
Allisonto defend myself against a man people yeah like you know what I mean like the odds of you being dropped in the woods with a bear in it eating you was like this you know much higher than being
03:57:46
TTS/Nick (production)with a man who ends up being Ed who's going to eat you not going Riley chewed out and remarks but for the last 45
03:57:58
TTS/Nick (production)minutes you have screeched into the mic after every remark you were only annoyed you were getting less attention oh boy yeah yo giovan thank you man appreciate it thank you thank you appreciate it
03:58:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)thank you bro thank you what were you guys talking about the bear thear she's come across a very I go camping a lot I'm going
03:58:20
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)camping tomorrow actually oh what's the
03:58:29
RileySPID pass it to me this biter is just like
03:58:36
Rileysenses um okay so why the bear like the actual real reason I gave you it you could tame the bear you can't tame the be no but like why not the man like what
03:58:48
Morganlike scares you from being in the woods with the man honest it's not that I'm like scared of being like not being with a man it's just more of like why not like in my head it was honestly like the
03:58:58
Morganquestion was just like you know what like why not like why not be with manyal not that freaking serious I was like who like give it a freaking try like why not why not be with the
03:59:10
Morganfreaking bear everybody was picking the man why yes a little people live a little why don't I'm I'm going in the woods with y'all
03:59:20
Brian Atlasprobably walk up to the so do you think that there's a greater risk of being attacked by the man as compared to the bear oh damn I'm going to contradict
03:59:30
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)myself no no I feel like there is a oh damn it there is a greater risk being with a you're just an adrenaline junkie it's fine what you're just an adrenaline
03:59:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)junky you don't to lab I don't that's something you do you label everything well because I find that it helps people it do
03:59:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Insane yeah okay I don't think labeling it was like right like okay like if I did want to pick the bear like okay whatever who cares we took the point I was trying to make is you don't have to justify it we just like what we like we want to try what we want to try who
04:00:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)cares you want to try with a bear okay she does I'm not speaking for me giving her permission because everybody was attacking her she we were not did you feel attacked I don't think so
04:00:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)every just we're joking with her yeah it was fun have this is what a conversation is it's not it's not attacking other people does know how to have a normal conversation
04:00:28
Brian Atlasfull open discussion sis all right next next question next question somebody sent me a DM they wanted me to ask this
04:00:35
Rileyare men or women physically stronger that's men stting woman men men men physically most men physically yes yeah
04:00:47
Brian Atlasyeah most of them most men men are stronger men are stronger okay fact who is the primary victim of war men or women oh I starting
04:00:57
Brian Atlaswith never had War go ahead Charle you did have go ahead Charley what was the question who is the primary victim of war men or women that Civil War second
04:01:08
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)world war first world war victim meaning what yeah let her answer aren't there more men in and than women in the
04:01:15
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)military yes so men okay Desiree men Vic man I won't be controversial right
04:01:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)now do you well I I would say in like civilian victims probably women but in like total victims men okay oh cuz like
04:01:35
Rileyokay I don't know I've never been in a war you were tweeting about me man obviously man men men men all
04:01:47
Sheenaright uh can you be sexist towards men yes yes starting with sure yes yes yes yes what do that mean to be
04:01:57
Brian Atlassexist towards men having negative thoughts towards men having bias against men a lot of most wom like that okay no
04:02:08
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)can't no you can't be sexist okay like you mean like so can them not to do some or they cannot do something or no okay
04:02:18
Brian Atlasso can you be can people can men or women be sexist towards women oh no no do you understand the question wait man did you say a woman to
04:02:29
Morganman be no a woman cannot be sexist to a man you said right no I didn't I didn't say that I'm
04:02:42
Brian Atlaswrong well can you can you ask again the question can sure can women be sexist towards
04:02:51
Rileymen no no no can men be sexist towards women no wait what I don't think she understand does she know do you know
04:03:03
Brian Atlaswhat sex anybody speak Spanish it's like a bias any Spanish speakers she speak Spanish go ahead wait SP go ahead translate into the mic go ahead oh
04:03:15
Morganhold on hold on give me some time to think cuz Dam hold on damn revoke your Latina card hold the up don't start with that please
04:03:35
Morgan[Music]
04:03:39
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)don't hold on she the answer is yes next person yes like be like be like you can't do that because you're a man is that a good
04:03:51
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)way of saying it I think it's something it's something it's yeah it's just what do you what do you think about when you're like when you're like when you're like oh that like a man's being like that to a woman to a woman okay yes but
04:04:03
Rileythen like a woman to a man thank you yeah sex yes yeah men can't polish their nails cuz because they like doing like feminine stuff because I don't think that's sexist no I
04:04:15
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)don't know I don't think that's sex sexist cuz I thought that's what it was like the guys are start it's a trend like even heterosexual men they put on makeup even and they're
04:04:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)not gay or anything they just are entitled is that gender identity that's like gend y already know where I stand that's a gender
04:04:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)thing nail Mel that wear makeup oh my God it's totally gay what about the actress I mean an actor male majority of men in the country
04:04:51
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's not the men that you're going to date on every there's a lot of influencers now though I me you want you want to follow the cattle or you want to be individual I'm sure like Trump and all these political figures are getting a little bit of makeup put on before on
04:05:03
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)TV but everyday life you want to date amended before he goes out you wear makeup there are the out who have reasons not just that it's not a turn off what do you think like when you say gay in
04:05:18
Sheenageneral but what do you say um men listen men that would take care of you and treat you like a queen and and do everything for you and be like a real real man caveman it's not a man that
04:05:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)would dare to wear makeup so so I have I had a friends with benefits in the past um that was you mean when he has benefits you don't have benefits if it was benefits cuz he would pay for
04:05:40
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)everything for me he would give me money for things that I wanted so it's not better for you just his side for him listen when a guy when a guy have $4 million for ex listen listen listen
04:05:51
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)listen listen okay he he's bisexual man wears makeup sometimes bisexual he was a provider took the risk to have sex with him and you're saying and you're saying and you're saying that these that
04:06:04
Sheenathese types of men aren't providers but the I literally have a real providers I have a real life example of a man being a provider honey listen let me educate you is a provider let me educate you
04:06:14
Sheenathis man not just that he's not provider right this man okay is a man that literally use you as a sexual tool he's pervert he's a twisted no he's a twisted and he's a pervert if he wears makeup
04:06:27
Sheenahe's bisexual and he give you money for having sex with him you're just a little hoe that he keep on the sze to satisfy these sexual needs you think he's not a provider he's not paying he's not living
04:06:37
Allisonwith you he doesn't gu wear makeup he's automatically gay but it's just not who do you think is get more out of this relationship soft mentality
04:06:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you wouldn't be with someone be with a man that he's feminine control person is on makeup you don't want to be with a man that he's feminine mentality control
04:07:00
Sheenamore than his masculine mentality because if you want to be with a man that have feminine mentality you might as well date a woman you don't need the men for that it's just a very cultural thing makeup with men has gone back
04:07:12
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)historically they used to wear the white powder on their face and the wigs because it was just a cultural Trend men care about cultural appearances true it's not like that whether it's makeup or it's a certain style of dress a
04:07:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)certain haircut a certain beard or no beard men keep up with a style to right and there's now where we live in a very diverse culture there's just in America
04:07:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)most people are of a question going back to the original point but who do you think is getting more out of a a purely sexual relationship where the man is providing financially for the woman do you think the man is getting more out of
04:07:48
Sheenathe relationship or the woman's getting more out of the relationship the man I think the man of course the man of course I'll explain because a man listen when a guy have I wanted to tell that before let's say a guy have $10 million
04:07:59
Sheenaright for him to spend on a girl $10,000 or $5,000 and keep her as a side hoe it's no problem the girl the desperate that for her $10,000 it's a lot of money
04:08:09
Sheenashe think she put her value like oh my God he spent $10,000 on me oh my God I must have been something special but when a guy have so much money for him it's nothing it's penis and he can he he can take you he can take her he can take
04:08:22
Sheenaanother guy you're just a tool do you think the girl isn't like benefiting at all from that Financial aspect not at all and I'll tell you why because when a girl I'll explain because let's say you
04:08:32
Sheenagot used to have a guy that spend a lot of money on you for for sex right when you get a little bit older you're not going to have this Market of men anymore they want to spend money on you because you lost your youth then you're going to stand there and you have no other
04:08:45
Sheenaqualification and you're going to feel so depressed and so bad because the only trade you had it's your youth to sell your Youth and your body and then you're going to wake up when you're used to the good life you used to buy the Chanel bags and the and to go to vacation and
04:08:58
Sheenato take pictures on private jets or whatever they're going to replace you for younger model and why you going to have nothing so do you think men and women have sexual inequality of course and why but we have to accept it as
04:09:10
Sheenawomen but why the majority of problem of women you want to know what it is women are so stubborn they don't want to accept reality women is the liar species on the planet what's the reality and I'll explain not in a bad way listen to
04:09:22
Sheename women cheat with their makeup with their nails with their plastic surgery I'm one of them so I know that I'm not going to be a hypocrite right I make myself look more beautiful I enhance my beauty it's not necessarily really bad because it's happened since the Bible
04:09:34
Sheenatime but with that being said because women have that ability to lie and manipulate more to attract certain men into their life they're more problem when they get older men give it to you
04:09:45
Sheenaas it is either I'm successful having money I can you know change uh uh multiple women or whatever it is he giv you he's given it to you straight right you know if you're just a booty call you're not stupid or you know if he
04:09:57
Sheenawants you for for a serious relationship women okay the opposite of of thinking women say oh my God I got a sugar daddy he spent so much money on me he bought me a Chanel bag he took me on his plane
04:10:08
Sheenabut they don't understand that just just one of a whole trail of women that they can buy with money I have a question but you didn't I don't mean to be rude no don't be rud but your boobs are fake right yes so do you feel like you're
04:10:21
Sheenaattracting a certain type of man with that yes but I'll explain my boob were not always fake I had bigger boobs like this naturally my boobs were like that so why you when I had my son when I had my son my boob fell to my knees so I had
04:10:33
Sheenato cut them and lift them so I have no choice my whole life my boobs were like this if you want to know and I don't care it doesn't contradict I can look sexy I could have big boobs I could
04:10:43
Sheenabisexual right but it how I value myself it doesn't mean if I'm sexy and I like sex and I like to dress a little bit sexy not over the top so I have to be I have to have a sugar diet I have to sell myself short you could be sexy you could
04:10:57
Sheenabe intelligent you can be a businesswoman but the most important thing to understand what is the woman before you're bringing all this to the table so you didn't answer the original question though I just want question um so you said that men and women aren't
04:11:09
Sheenasexually equal why do you think that because I told you before you didn't understand okay because the woman value it's in the first 40 years of her life
04:11:19
Sheenaright so see you have you of ourselves no wait let me explain from age from age zero until you what say say I want to hear what you have to
04:11:29
Sheenasay 40 yes yes and I'll explain why 40 yes I'm not talking about 20 years ago 40 years ago now in nowadays the prime of a
04:11:39
Sheenawoman is her 40s right yes yes because let me tell you something in America listen I see this in a lot of podcast listen to me I see it in a lot of podcast that you guys are very extreme
04:11:51
Sheenathey said no Primal woman is 24 I'm not talking about woman that needs to get married when she's 24 and have kids I understand what you're saying that's not what I'm talking about a woman that had kids and become to her 40 and got divorced and won a date men she still
04:12:04
Sheenahave a little bit of time when she's in her 40s if she as a young woman like her and she needs to get married and have kids she until 24 25 26 the most 26 the
04:12:13
Sheenamost right but what I'm trying to say in general that the woman her trade is her Youth and when you pass the prime of the youth it's affect how you bring kids it affect how Society see it affects how
04:12:26
Sheenamany ones wants to date you and be with you and if you don't have an extra value like your brain who you are as a person if you're a nurturing woman if you have patience if you know how to treat a man you lose your value completely I'm not
04:12:38
Sheenasaying that women in our 50 and our 40 and our 60 don't have value they have a different value they trade their value with different things obviously they're not going to look for a young men I see a lot of women in my age that we go out
04:12:49
Sheenaand say oh my God I'm only into young guys young guys love me they're amazing I'm like are you stupid what do they want to do with you they only want to put you in bed and use you and have the experience by having sex with older man with older woman and they're going to
04:13:01
Sheenatell their friends oh look I'm banging this 50-year old or I'm banging this 40y old right cuz women oblivious to the truth they want to tell themselves because you look good it's like I would go out and I would say oh I'm sexy I'm
04:13:14
Sheenalooking good I'm gonna date young guys I'm not gonna do it first of all because I have a man in the house you wouldn't you wouldn't I would not do what you wouldn't take me no because you're young I think you're attractive but I think
04:13:26
Sheenayou're young but you're attractive but I think your producer way more attractive sorry Jacobi I agree but he could be my son he could be my son so I don't even look at he's young next young wait I
04:13:37
Brian Atlassorry I do have to move it on sorry do got to move it on we have a couple more things we got to cover here so going back to some of these
04:13:45
Brian Atlasquestions can you be racist towards white people I'm out of this yes surely of course
04:13:54
RileyDesiree yeah of course yes sometimes tell us how you really feel I feel like racism is one of those things where it only works if it affects the
04:14:06
Rileydemographic of people that you're being racist to and I say that when I mean that I say if if I'm going to work a job I don't have the power to stop somebody from stop a white girl from getting a job I don't have the power to stop a
04:14:20
Rileywhite girl from getting in the college and don't use that affirmative act action cuz I don't even know what I've never even seen affirmative action and how it helps people of color I I
04:14:31
Rileythink that's just some little okay going around the table on this yeah what it was the question can you be racist towards white people of course but can I answer to what you just said let me get
04:14:42
Sheenaeverybody to answer to this first and then I'll think about it yeah yes yes definitely yeah I'll give you 30 seconds to give an answer but then I'm going to move it on I want to say something I
04:14:53
Sheenathink in in the African-American society and black society in general in America I'm not talking outside of America a lot of the people what I've seen they go against each other they don't help each other they don't Elevate each other they
04:15:05
SheenaCy and bed towards one another they don't push each other like everything is about money and how much they get and I've seen it and I said how this Society could grow if everybody against each other like if you see the Jewish Society
04:15:17
Sheenaor the Arab Muslim Society everybody Spanish exactly they support each other when you see a black homeless on the street they just want to take money you give them $5 oh only $5 and when you see a Mexican they would never stand and ask
04:15:29
Sheenafor money they would give you flowers Spanish people have always had my back by the way I think you guys sabotage yourself and the most a lot of intelligent people that I met here were from the African-American Community you
04:15:41
Brian Atlasknow and I'm like that's too bad that you guys don't support each other that's there's two well we're done with it yeah I do I'm going to move it on I do want to get on to the topic of body count so earlier on in the show I think uh Riley
04:15:53
Brian Atlasyou had you said something about this topic vaguely like why is it that women get judged for this or I don't want to put words in your mouth but you had a
04:16:03
Rileypretty strong position on it yeah uh like I hate it I hate it ha hate what I just hate the whole body count thing like I don't they don't run it up oh
04:16:14
Rileyexactly let's let her talk I hate body count because I feel like you don't even really know a person like just somebody telling you that they've been with like if I date a
04:16:26
Rileyguy and he tells me he's been with aund I don't even ask I can't even lie say hold on let her finish go ahead I feel like a lot of times the whole body count thing it's like it doesn't even really
04:16:39
Rileyexist unless you allow it to exist like I'm not going to know how many people you've actually been with if you if you're being 100% honest with me and I ask you the question okay but then it's like okay now what like can do I have I
04:16:51
Rileydon't really feel like it's my place to judge somebody for who they were with or what their experience is in life I'm not going to sit here and diminish a person or a man that's like oh well I've been with 150 women but that was a part of my
04:17:04
Rileypast and they're trying to work towards their future how can a person evolve and grow if we're going to constantly judge them for their body C can I well the reason for me would be it would give you an Insight if you're going to date
04:17:17
Allisonsomebody and has nothing to do with judging them but maybe this would show you an inside of their life how promiscuous they are how many you know what kind of sexual habits they have you
04:17:28
Allisonknow desire like it just shows you do I want to be with someone like this cuz that it's more of a higher risk right you're taking a higher risk if you're looking for commitment and see like what you know I what I'm asking for I can
04:17:40
Allisonbring to the table and if someone else just has red flags you know high body counts like that it's probably not for me cuz they're probably you know patterns repeat themselves they can change but you just I don't want to I
04:17:52
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)get what you're saying who has a more sex positive outlet could think it's a red flag if the body count was too low so that's a different perspective it's literally I've heard that too on the opposite if a
04:18:03
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)guy comes at me and he's a virgin I'm like like I'm not here trying to be your mom I think the whole thing about body count I think the important thing about body count is that you and your partner
04:18:15
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)have the same view on body count and I think that's the only important fact about body count i' agree the only thing that matters is that you you and your partner both agree on your views on body count that's all that matters for a
04:18:26
Rileysuccessful relationship like comp how many times have you dated a man and asked him like how many women and he told you the truth like I just feel like most times when those questions come up a lot of people are insecure about it
04:18:39
Rileybecause of the discourse about it so they so yeah CU there's a stigma with it and they lie and like I don't know I've I haven't been with that many men so I can't necessarily say where I'm at with
04:18:51
Rileyit cuz I don't think I've ever asked a guy like how many women have you been with like like my last relationship I'm sure my ex he was out there um but I don't think that that reflected him and
04:19:04
Rileylike how he treated me I think how he treated me was a reflection of how he felt about me or how he felt like if he respected me in a certain way so I think it's a case to case basis like if you date a guy and you know he's been with a
04:19:15
Allisonlot of women but he's trying his hardest to change and he wants to have a totally I think I just think it helps you get like kind of take your own perspective like you can kind of weigh the risk
04:19:24
Rileyyourself yeah that's what I'm saying I'm like I feel like I know not you but oh oh oh oh my bad but yeah I just feel like it's a case toase thing like it
04:19:36
Rileydepends on you like if you're uncomfortable with a man who's been with 150 women I'm pretty sure a lot of us would be uncomfortable with that but then if you see like oh he's a nice guy like he's tring this yeah
04:19:47
TTS/Nick (production)TTS $100 redhead heretic is spitting obviously an ex addict can find redemption and forgiveness but I rather
04:19:57
Brian Atlasdate a nonex addict same way AO can find redemption and forgiveness but it's not preferred yo GI thank you for the TTS appreciate it man that's point so just going around the table really quick uh
04:20:09
TTS/Nick (production)do you think that men are insecure if they care about a woman body count wait it didn't come to me I wanted to also the other question is the Pagan donated $200 thank you Pagan appreciate remember
04:20:21
TTS/Nick (production)the old PSA you're sleeping with ever person that person has slept with and it's true promiscuously leads to a greater chance of STDs exactly but I want to answer the
04:20:32
Rileyquestion uh which question ask them well I'm going around the table right now on this so what was the question but you started do you think a man is in secure if he
04:20:43
Brian Atlasasks you about body well do you think a man's not asks do you think a man is insecure if he cares about your body count or a woman's body
04:20:55
Brian Atlascount I don't think he necessarily insecure he could just be curious yeah so let's say for example he wouldn't date you or another woman
04:21:06
Brian Atlasbecause of her body count insecure I don't think it's insecure it's preference you think immat or foration I mean Everyone's entitled to
04:21:19
Brian Atlastheir own opinion desire what about you I agree I totally agree yeah everybody has their prerogative what wait instead of just so just you can State your own position instead of just saying agree well I was going to say agree but my
04:21:30
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)position is that it's not inherently insecure for somebody to care about body count again I'm going to reiterate that I think the only thing that matters about body count is that you and your partner agree on your views on body
04:21:40
Rileycount okay uh no I don't think he's insecure like I said if he but is it immature is it kind of wrong I don't think it's wrong like it's just like if you you like girls that wear don't wear
04:21:53
Rileylike there's a thing where some men that are professional don't like women that wear fake nails like it's like a preference like I don't think I I feel like if you're not comfortable with dating a girl who's been with 150 men
04:22:05
Rileylike that's okay if you've only been with two women yeah you're going to be like no that's not my style go ahead I don't think it's a care I just think it's a preference also yeah I think men
04:22:16
Sheenaand women completely different because when a man have sex he goes inside the woman and take it out of himself and forget about it when a woman have sex with a man I know you're going to laugh but it's scientific fact when a woman
04:22:27
Sheenahave sex with a man whatever the men live inside her it stays in her DNA forever and changes her Chang her emotion changes her feeling it's a scientific fact so it changes her
04:22:38
Sheenacompletely so if a woman being with a 100 men along the road 10 years later 20 years later psychologically she's not going to be balanced because of all the men she's been with so of course it's
04:22:50
Sheenamatter because men completely different from woman men can sleep with a woman and he completely don't have feelings he have sex he's done he taking it out and he going about his way woman have sex with a man she start thinking he's going to call me I like him I'm attracted to
04:23:02
Sheenahim unless she's working in the prostitution business and she see him as a dollar completely different thing okay your thoughts uh no I don't think it's secure not
04:23:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)mature uh I don't think it's insecure I think it's prer value how you value yourself and your partner yeah I don't think it's insecure I would prefer a guy to not want me to
04:23:24
Brian Atlashave a highb account for real so marry my son if body count doesn't matter if body count doesn't matter what's your body
04:23:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)count starting with desire well I've been sexually active for 25 years so honestly I'm not 100% sure but I would say probably around 50
04:23:46
SheenaI don't believe you I to say cap she've been with 50 men you think it's more maybe
04:23:53
Brian Atlas50,000 okay damn all right uh charlee uh I want to say less than 10 okay 22 wait
04:24:02
Brian Atlashold on oh she knew wait I know hold on you said you you want to say less than 10 think it's less than 10 well I want to say I'm a billionaire but it's
04:24:13
Sheenanot true I think yeah it's a less okay all right go ahead 22 22 I think like 30 30 yeah two out of respect to my son cuz he's watching the show I'm not going to
04:24:25
Sheenaanswer that but I only say that I haven't been with a lot of man do you want to do like a range like 10 I got married when I was 18 I was with the same man for 11 years then we separated we got back so I didn't have a lot of
04:24:37
Sheenamen I was only in serious relationships okay I don't have a specific number but I was a more than 25 more more than 35 25 yeah but do you think it's more than 35 yeah I would if
04:24:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I had to count and how to like yeah let's count you got time okay okay yeah I was counting Mario it was that ludicrous
04:25:00
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)song My Neighbor I'm fcking it's funny no yeah was say
04:25:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like just say say it more than more than like more like 110 100 are are you like a runner up for me come on are you
04:25:18
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)close more than me yeah more than you I was married for long time so it kind yeah everyone wait do you think more more than 200 no no no like I wouldn't
04:25:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)say more than 115 how old are you more than 26 27 there's not like birth certificates in the hell Sal no no
04:25:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)no no not at all the number okay um there's not a birth so like 150 or no no I would say like 100 it's not go more than 11 I think you
04:25:55
Allisonsaid 115 plus okay all right crazy um I'm not going to say it on the internet but it's single
04:26:05
Brian Atlasdigits less than five less than five she's really young she's 19 oh my God I mean daughter-in-law four less than five I just assume four
04:26:16
Brian Atlasthen wait this is for all of you this is for all of you multiply by three and that's the real number I'm so done that's not true that is not true I think
04:26:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I was rounding up do the bo I'm that that's the multiply by three I got three kids they're not coming out of the Woodworks anymore you know me too all
04:26:36
Brian Atlasright uh let's see here oh let's uh Desiree Desiree you previously you said you have personas I do like Eminem Slim Shady
04:26:48
Brian AtlasMarshall matters what is that me personas and hold on I'll say you said it's a thing for us genius black ghetto slave Souls inside
04:26:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)sexy white bodies okayy what did you hold it together girl hold it together I just meant that there is a white privilege that comes with
04:27:11
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)looking this way how ever I was born in a very similar family to you with the psychopath dad and getting kidnapped and the whole situation so I felt that I had like extreme trauma like I literally
04:27:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)would go try to talk to school counselors police counsel everybody friends parents everything and it's like they just looked at this pretty little white girl who does believe good school
04:27:34
Rileyand it was like it wasn't Computing okay this is my questiones ghetto have to do with being black impoverished impoverished not you have white trash
04:27:44
Rileyalso ghetto I was white trash of all most black people AR ghetto but why do you cor why is Blackness parallel to ghetto yeah like I I'm trying to figure
04:27:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that out my in my ideology it is ghetto can be in any Community but why that's what I'm trying to understand GH in any Community I've seen more ghetto of white
04:28:05
Sheenahere than I was born into a I've seen white talking SE white talking about black but then I saw the differ between the family like the black go to church they raise their kids really nice
04:28:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and then the white were completely trash my brother's girlfriend I'm just making a huge generality I understand that not everybody fits into the stereotyping a huge generality excuses
04:28:29
Allisonare so systemic racism based on my upbringing could say I'm not saying it's right or wrong excuse for the way that you act you know what I mean there's always like I was I was raised in racism and Trauma
04:28:40
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and this ask everybody everybody in this life has a trauma just from being born without ex literally I have been being asked what my thought process was so I was just exp and you have not once taken
04:28:53
Allisonaccountability the entire night not your tra what do you want me to take accountability just When someone tells you something just be like you know what that was really wrong or that was messed up and I'm sorry if I don't believe there's anything wrong with it I'm not going to apologize there's IIT genius
04:29:06
Sheenawhat do you want she's the genius hold on let's go back to the words let's go back to the words arguing with the genus you said you said desire you said Desiree you said it's a
04:29:18
Brian Atlasthing for when it came to your different personas it's a thing for us genius black ghetto slave Souls inside sexy white bodies and that just what the
04:29:28
Morgandoes that even mean inside you that to you how did you get that black GH slave Souls what I think you've been with too many black guys that's the problem their
04:29:39
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)DNA stay inside of you and you think you're s but what is about you have too much black DNA inside of you I have a fat ass I always have like since I was 11 and yeah I probably
04:29:57
Sheenagot my God I like the time when it wasn't you were so all the white guys didn't like me the
04:30:05
Allisonblack I have to ask you a question not not like not 25 years ago lit my whole family of white women were starving themselves I had horrible
04:30:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)disorders from the time I was like years old starving my ass off yes it was a thing staring only came back cuz of the fu Kardashian I'm only 3 years younger than you trust me like ass was in for a
04:30:29
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)minute yeah but I didn't know that the style and the culture what I was I believed that there was something wrong with me back in 2007 I was like damn
04:30:39
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's a FB what exactly I grew up like with everybody being like worshiping me because I was a white girl with my
04:30:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)self look at that V what are you talking about honestly Brian I body dysmorphic disorder basically the subex of what
04:30:58
Sheenayou I women of my family getting getting their sucked out basically the subtext of what she's saying is I've been with
04:31:07
Sheenaso many guys so many black guys I'm over I'm overed myself emotionally sexually vaginally whatever you say that word
04:31:16
Sheenaright vaginally right and I think you so exhausted I would I would not talk about it because what you do you bring in all the Predators toward you when you get out of here all the black men and white
04:31:28
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I was raised by a predator I was sexed by my dad my dad raised me to be a sex work and you become and you become the Pres no I became the you have something
04:31:41
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I am a sex work and you know that you know how you grow up why don't you change it I did change it I changed it to doing only fans so that I completely
04:31:50
Sheenaonly change making it worse no it's not the way that I'm making only doesn't change it only fans making it worse because only F legitimize you being uh
04:32:03
Sheenasexually abused over and over again when you get money you don't think you're being sexually abused but you are because if you not being sexually abused you wouldn't feel comfortable sexually abused being by my husband that I
04:32:15
Sheenacouldn't stand inside my marriage when I got out of my respect the father of your children respect the father of your children respect the father of your
04:32:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)children the father of your children no for real let's call his he's Mia right now call that mother father
04:32:38
Allisonofh that's not no that's Riley can't you just say I'm sorry that was a racist comment and I shouldn't have said that I take it you know i' like sorry to the white women that I was I forgot what I said but I'm
04:32:51
Brian Atlassorry y' we need to stand up for what we believe in that's what you said I just okay and you didn't say it like she said I didn't I'm just trying to understand what the slave soul I do want to point
04:33:02
Brian Atlasout that Desiree dropped to the heart are what did I say when Des hard is it like that don't say the word
04:33:12
Sheenadesire don't say the word N word but you did the hard R don't say it what is it explain to me I don't I have a mouth I'm sorry what is hard
04:33:23
Brian Atlasthat's not my go word yes don't say it I'm not going to say say it hard are so you can end it with a I can't I shouldn't even be explaining there's like there's like a
04:33:34
Rileyway to say she said it earlier black people say it amongst each other with the a at the end but like slave masters used to say it with the ER
04:33:45
Rileyso we say it to each other it's like a term of endearment understand I understand person but like when people say the hard are it's like I get away with this
04:33:57
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I wouldn't have gotten away with this up until 38 why the do you think I three enough of the times that I don't give a you're
04:34:10
Sheenanot not obviously you don't give a about yourself that's baby girl obviously you don't give a about
04:34:19
TTS/Nick (production)yourself J donated $100 I'm white grew up in aeral crack house of whites until I was adopted by a black woman at 13 I still acknowledge no
04:34:32
TTS/Nick (production)part of me is black or has black experiences desery you're not black no should I whip out the ass since the0 just shut up please can you stop
04:34:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)thinking about your ass I don't know where the it came from then if
04:34:49
Sheenanot okay so hold on so wait Desiree do you consider yourself no no I just she thinks he's pretty enough black guys like her
04:35:00
Sheenabecause she have a big butt and she don't yeah I just I find resonates with the culture that's I with the guys I hope you're not going to put a week next
04:35:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you probably shouldn't say this in a room no I'm just no
04:35:19
Sheenadude do people your attitude is the most ghetto I've seen more than any black girl question to get up if it wasn't brought to my attention to speak on just
04:35:31
Rileybecause you you feel like you have some close proximity to Blackness does not give you the can you not just let someone talk private this was never
04:35:42
Rileysupposed to be an exploited out in public conversation okay the the man where she said it is it is it like
04:35:53
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)it was a private message a private message between us that I never knew was going to get blasted out there okay there we go yeah wait a minute
04:36:04
Rileydon't right there because that's that's the problem I have that's the problem I have with people like you because you say it in private and then you think oh well I wasn't yeah like I I didn't mean
04:36:15
Rileyto say it publicly I said it to him in message so is do you say this to your other friends that aren't black like I'm confused do black people give you a pass
04:36:26
Sheenato nobody gives a nobody gives a oh my God I just I don't know if it's I'm
04:36:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)old from the day when it didn't did you guys see that white girl talk that got that went viral for saying the NW and then her let her go she said it with the A and she didn't say it with the e
04:36:48
Sheenar I hope you're not going to be in the night lonely in some corner and some black girl is going to Corner you and beat the out of you that's what I hope I just feel like you
04:36:59
Rileyyou it's it's not even just black people like it's it's just offensive to to even want to say the word like why would you like nobody else seems to care about the word
04:37:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)because it's
04:37:17
Sheenawords unforunately proving the point proving the sh about you proving the point that the majority of black women who go with black men it's lowlevel white wom it's
04:37:29
Rileynot high level white wom that go with black men and unfortunately you are you are you are proving am I right or am I wrong I don't feel like that because my my brother like he his girlfriend she's
04:37:41
Rileyso sweet like she's white and like she's the sweetest person I've ever met she doesn't treat him like she never says the n-w like there it's never been that and if they're treating him like crap or
04:37:52
Rileylike talking crap to him it's because he's a boy you know my brother's a boy he deserves to be on by these women because he treats them like trash so it's fair but they it never comes about to where they get to say the
04:38:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)n-word with an e at the end like I've never heard my white maybe my white privilege even so embarrassing all the other white
04:38:16
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)women that I'm friends with because you're so dumb and FL I'm giving you my life experience I don't know what to tell you I've made it this far obviously just so but where have you
04:38:27
Sheenamade it though only be able to say the I mean where have you made it are you married likey old girl here I literally am able this 19-year-old girl here way smarter than you I'm so I'm embarrassed
04:38:40
Sheenafor you you could be her mother and she can school you with her brain and you're just so stupid and you think you're a genius to me it's embarrassing for you I've never met anybody who more stupid than you in my life and you call yourself a genius this 19-year-old girl
04:38:53
Sheena100 times more smart than you and you have the audacity to sit here and try to think you schooling other woman just shut your mouth you're so dumb period uh it's anointing my I just think
04:39:06
Allisonit's crazy to say you've made it this far because what are the accomplishments that you have have you graduated like you have a real you know are you married I've been married twice but are you married are you in a current relationship why are you asking because
04:39:19
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)saying that you made it this far well I'm just saying only doing only married it's not that great it's a lot of work maybe depending on the being I have a graduate degree in counseling
04:39:31
AllisonMinistry let me fin sayy I know you love to talk you love to talk no wonder I can never say anything to her but I will just say it when you say you made it that far but you made it only fans in you're head in a toilet while some guy
04:39:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)does that that's just not making it that far I'm never going to read that care and this is this is what I've it cost so up by your exact ideology
04:39:56
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)it kept me a slave for 20 goddamn years of my life and I made something out of myself after I left that so you what did you make that crazy how she B
04:40:08
Allisonwhy is you I was counseling your typ and you're miserable C and I left that and I started having orgasms and now I love my wa wait
04:40:18
Sheenawa unstable I will never F you I will never F you my son Liv my godamn house at I will never F you I will never
04:40:28
SheenaF you I will never F you you're going to lose your that's good for us need self control never F you did you put that in your book never F you it's your sh Wait
04:40:40
SPEAKER_11is book by the way I'm so did you write that honey that that's not a 50 that's not a $5,000
04:40:53
Rileybook we're sorry it's a self-published book you no let me just say this everybody has prejudices they're going to say
04:41:03
Rileyracist stuff everybody does it it's an American thing it's just what like I said everyone has prejudices and they're going to say racist stuff everybody once they get educated and they understand
04:41:15
Rileyokay if this affects a group of people you usually apologize for it or you just explain yourself but you do she just screamed she going off on everybody I think you should at least resp I don't
04:41:26
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)believe it's wrong okay also just by you yelling and screaming and all of us stop talking to you it's not that word scared it's not that word inating you're listen
04:41:36
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)to her it's the fact that we can't reason with you exactly you you're in no no your instinct is to interrupt your instinct is oh I'm this pretty I can talk however I want no you're not no one
04:41:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)is that pretty that can talk whenever they want no one you have to give everyone the respect that you want if you want to be heard you have to just shut up when people are talking you realize what the point of the show is
04:41:58
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)right uh is to not make to monetize drama no it's to take accountability that's why you show 19y old the point of the show at all to get your point across
04:42:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you don't have to scream at the top of your bloody lung orer not or offering me to literally bro I'm telling you guys are boring you're
04:42:21
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)repeating IDE what do you think we're listening to you you're doing the same at least I have a original thought no you don't you're like any other cookie
04:42:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)cutter cookie cutter have you ever met a like no you're actually worse a you're actually wor exactly origal
04:42:44
TTS/Nick (production)[Music] $100 screaming psycho against the one Christian at the table not a coincidence the Demonic manifestation is
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)real that's literally the same guy hi Andrew that called you a spitting demonic possessed girl if you're not paying attention to the tr that is literally Andrew because I know his
04:43:07
Sheenapsychology that's Giani don't it's Andrew that's what no one's calling me and actually and actually you are right we never met
04:43:17
Sheenaanybody anytime I not a good looking like you dumb as you they think that she's a genius I've never met any any phenomenal like that well the US
04:43:26
Sheenamilitary tested me so maybe phen godamn tax you are phenomenal because you're so dumb you yeah that's where I got tested wa okay so you said that your story when
04:43:36
Brian Atlasit came to the military is you went in as a for uh what I went in I as an E4 which is basically I had you said they were going to fast wait CH they wanted
04:43:47
Brian Atlasme to go in as an officer and be a combat surgeon I said combat surgeon hold on Chad so any military people who are watching maybe you can like you don't feed the pattern hold on hold on
04:43:59
Brian Atlasso you said that the military was going to FASTT track you due to your test scores because of yes all of that and because I had a college degree so when you go and when
04:44:11
Sheenaabout college degree I come from a military country honey in my country we obligated to do when you have a listen to me I come from a country that the woman
04:44:22
Sheenaobligated to do the Army for two years to us practices by fit the pattern of Army and I'll tell you why because in the Army the first thing they check it's your mental capacity Under Pressure you