Diagnosed Psychopath?! Doomsday Desiree DESTROYED By Based Grace & Shina?! | Dating Talk #186
Date: 2024-08-12
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sheena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Allison(guest)
SPEAKER_05Riley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
Key Moments
00:04:17
IntroShirley JW introduces herself as 33yo LA-based journalist/host with hip-hop background.
“My name is Shirley JW. I'm 33 years old. I'm based in Los Angeles. I'm a journalist on-camera host.”
00:05:02
IntroDesiree Noel (returning) introduces herself as 38yo Southern California single mom.
“My name is Desiree Noel. I am 38, from Southern California.”
00:06:05
IntroVic introduces herself as 23yo East Coast TikToker diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy.
“I'm Vic. I'm 23 and I'm a content creator on TikTok. I was diagnosed with ASPD.”
00:16:07
IntroRiley introduces herself as 31yo LA recording artist doing witchy dark R&B.
“Hi, my name is Riley. I'm 31 and I'm a recording artist.”
00:19:30
IntroSheena (returning) introduces herself as 50yo entrepreneur, former Israeli actress.
“I'm Sheena. I'm 50 and I'm an entrepreneur. I was an actress for 20 years in Israel.”
00:19:54
IntroJennifer introduces herself as 26yo originally from El Salvador, Lyft driver.
“My name is Jennifer. I'm 26, almost 27. I'm coming from Thousand Oaks, originally from El Salvador.”
00:20:22
IntroAllison introduces herself as 30yo evangelist from Wisconsin/Texas.
“My name is Allison. I am 30. I am an evangelist and I work for a tech company.”
00:20:33
IntroGrace introduces herself as 19yo UCSB math student.
“My name is Grace. I'm 19. I'm a student at UCSB. I'm originally from Southern California. I'm studying math.”
00:24:13
QuoteVic describes her ASPD as feeling like a video game — clicking yes to every risky prompt with no fear.
“It's kind of like a video game... a prompt comes up and tells you if you continue this could happen... and I always click yes.”
01:21:36
QuoteRiley shares that her brother is clinically schizophrenic, shot up a gas station, and she fought for his sentence to be reduced — emotional personal disclosure.
“My brother is clinically schizophrenic... he shot up a gas station... we fought tooth and nail to get him his sentence lowered.”
01:42:36
QuoteDesiree claims to have six active friends-with-benefits simultaneously, prompting strong reaction from Sheena.
“I have six guys that I have sex with.”
01:46:30
QuoteSheena tells Desiree that without her vagina she is nothing, prompting outrage from panel.
“Without your vagina you're nothing. Without your vagina you're empty. Your mind is empty.”
01:59:55
QuoteSheena says she believes people have demons and spirits; calls Desiree demon-possessed.
“I do believe that people have demons and spirits. And I think you are demon possessed.”
02:02:07
ControversyAllison calls Grace "Jezebel Antichrist" and shouts at her during demon-possession vs. mental illness debate. Escalates to full panel argument.
“You are definitely a demon. Jezebel Antichrist.”
02:13:56
ControversySheena confronts Desiree and Grace during the sex work debate, accusing them of being mentally ill and empty.
“You girls speak like you're intelligent with nice words but deep down you're super empty.”
04:30:00
ControversySheena repeatedly calls Desiree "dumb" and "crazy" over disputed military claims (Desiree's fast-track to combat surgeon story).
“You are dumb. You are dumb and crazy. That's why you're on this show — you're the entertainment.”
04:48:00
OtherShirley and Riley leave the show mid-way (~4:47) to be replaced by Morgan and Maddie in the second panel.
“Shirley and Riley thank the audience and depart.”
Topics Discussed
00:04:17
Guest Introductions
All 8 first-panel guests introduce themselves. Vic (ASPD/psychopath TikToker) receives extended discussion on her diagnosis, symptoms, and risky behaviors.
00:06:05
Vic's ASPD / Psychopathy Discussion
Extended exploration of Vic's ASPD diagnosis — diagnostic criteria, lack of fear response, manipulation, impulsivity, risky behaviors during pandemic (drugs, homelessness, near-death). Chat and other guests push back.
01:20:00
OnlyFans and Sex Work Debate
Debate between Grace/Allison (critical of sex work's societal impact) and Desiree/Riley (defend personal autonomy). Sheena adds older-generation perspective. Very heated.
01:34:51
Prostitution as Oldest Profession Debate
Discussion on prostitution, marriage-as-transaction, bride prices in Africa, cattle exchange.
01:49:20
Relationship Status Round
Brian asks each guest about current relationship status, time single, longest relationship. Desiree: seeing someone casually. Sheena: seeing someone (3-month rule). Riley: single 1 year (4-yr prior longest). Vic: single 2 years (6-month longest). Shirley: single (no guys). Jennifer: "single but never alone." Allison: single (several months). Grace: single 3 months (2-yr longest).
02:00:53
OnlyFans Platform Experience (Shirley)
Shirley shares she was onboarded by OnlyFans as a journalism/media personality, expecting to teach journalism. Found it was the opposite of what was advertised. Describes accidental exposure to sexual content.
02:02:07
Mental Illness vs. Demon Possession
Allison and Sheena argue mental illness = demon possession. Grace pushes back with schizophrenia/psychosis examples. Riley shares personal experience with schizophrenic brother. Allison yells "Jezebel Antichrist" at Grace; escalates to shouting match.
02:08:00
Racial Preferences in Dating
Grace discusses never dating Asian men (relates to difficult upbringing with traditional Asian parents, healing Asian identity trauma). Shirley teases her dating history (Persian, white rebound, Black ex).
02:19:56
Self-Defense and Men Hitting Women
Prompted by Shirley's viral Jesse Lee Peterson clip on the topic. Around-the-table answers on whether men can strike women in self-defense.
02:31:59
Self-Ratings Round
Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 on looks (can't pick 7). Shirley: 5. Desiree: 4.5. Vic: 5. Riley: 8. Sheena: 6. Grace: 6. Allison not captured clearly. Desiree explains she rated lower because Sheena rated herself 5 and she considers herself Sheena's "slave" so can't rate higher.
03:15:00
Race and Representation Discussion
Riley raises systemic racism in casting of TV shows. Sheena (as Israeli immigrant) counters with observations on US race dynamics vs Israel.
04:30:00
Military Claims / Stolen Valor Controversy
Desiree claims she enlisted in the Army (2009) and was told she could fast-track to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS messages disputing this. Brian reads them. Desiree eventually says she got pregnant and received a discharge before basic training.
04:30:00
Desiree Military Claims Challenged
Sheena calls Desiree a liar re: fast-tracking to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS calling it stolen valor. Brian reads messages live.
04:45:00
Age Gap Relationships Debate
Second panel joins. Vic argues age-gap relationships are "worthy of judgment." Discussion on power dynamics and maturity.
06:10:00
Roast Section
Closing roast segment. Audience TTS messages roast each guest. Brian reads them. Desiree is primary target; Grace receives mostly positive comments.
Transcript
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01:53:31
TTS/Nick (production)do it if I don't I'll do it myself you know but like it's important to realize okay r667 donated
01:53:41
TTS/Nick (production)$200 feminism has ruined this country women getting educated and having jobs like men and having a large cash flow has led to the rapid decline in birth
01:53:51
Brian Atlasrates make America Christian again yo run HQ thank you so much for the TTS man appreciate it uh make make America Christian again
01:54:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)okay are we in 1864 I know right somewhere like 15 I wish we were in 19 aity belt or when did America start 17
01:54:12
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)so what are wom supposed to I mean there definitely has been like a decline I need to have a I feel like they brought the illness over ever we thought America was going to do it
01:54:25
RileyAmerica was so amazing ever since happened there's just been a decline me never had I have never seen comments like this for men I've ever dated before
01:54:37
Rileythis is insane to me this is why I was traumatized this is you've never seen this this like I literally just went on a date last night never a man
01:54:47
Rileythat has ever like diminished women to just this Speck of just that's not that's what
01:54:57
Rileyheting jobs and feminism has ruined respect but I don't believe that getting jobs is wrong I think women should have jobs don't talk about jobs he did he did he literally said that no he didn't say
01:55:10
Rileyhe didn't say it was wrong he just said this is what it's led to exactly so is that not a complaint to say that women getting jobs leads to the it's not women getting jobs it's making the career the
01:55:21
Rileypriority more than kids and more more than relationship wrong with that right why can't women focus on you're going to be miserable when you be 40 and 50 old by the apartment do you guys know in
01:55:34
RileyAmerica this world is literally overpopulated want to beely not wrong this liter this the planet is overpopulated people are having babies
01:55:45
Rileythat shouldn't even be having is there should be a psych evaluation before you have kids because there are people on this planet with children that should not have kids they have a bunch of kids in foster care they aren't taking care
01:55:56
Rileyof them these kids are going crazy they're turning into Psychopaths and you're over here talking about oh well you should have a husband and you should do this if you weren having premarital sex then all these kids would not be
01:56:07
Rileybeing born like that people premarital sex do you not hear yourself right now do you know there's women out here that don't have a choice that were taken it was taken from them that's a different
01:56:17
Allisonsitation you're thinking small you're thinking very small I don't want to all people they're having babies they can't afford it there's overpopulation well then be married then don't have sex with anybody you to be single the
01:56:30
Sheenagovernment want you to be single because when you're single you pay you pay more taxes everything you can't afford a child I would say don't have sex don't have sex you don't want child you I work in entertainment and I have
01:56:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)never met anyone this is good girl this is good who thinks they're Pro I've never met a female in entertainment that thinks their life goal is to birth a child of course that's but let me just say it's okay to
01:56:54
Rileywant to have a family it's okay to be a stay-at home mom if that's what you want to do that's what you want to do but don't sit here and say that oh well they're having premarital sex there's women who have not had a choice whether
01:57:06
Allisonthey wanted to have sex or not we're not talking about those women talking we're not talking about that we're talking about the people that do it on purpose the people that are scale no but that's the scale we're talking talking about
01:57:17
Sheenayou told her that she she think very small right but let me educate you with something the and radical feminism want women to think like you oh I could be I'm not a
01:57:27
Sheenafeminist wait let me wait let me explain let me exp feminist because let me exp the government doctrina in you that it's okay to be a strong woman you don't need a man men are bad all the men are we
01:57:39
Sheenadon't need Men You're generalizing I'm not this is the state of mind that you are why do I need a men I can do what I want with my body it's my body no it's not your body I feel bad that you guys think your sole purpose is to tend to a
01:57:50
Sheenaman and birth a child want to tend to a man that's fine that's totally fine I have you could love it and you can own it you could love it and own it but child is way better than than
01:58:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)a dog I mean I don't think I could take care of a child right now so of course not you cannot take care of yourself how can here the difference that I'm noticing between these two ideologies is
01:58:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that is that Riley was talking about oh how she respects your guys' choice to live your life that way but you guys are so angry women like us that choose to
01:58:23
Sheenalive our lives in a different way you are I don't think you have a decision I think you do it from an automatic pilot she's doing it she's doing it from an automatic
01:58:35
Sheenapilot and another guy and another guy you don't even know what you're doing honestly I think that you wake up when you're 45 you would say oh my god what have I done you you working on a on a on
01:58:47
Sheenaa eyes shot Paradigm that you go on the automatic pilot with being with this guy doing this and doing that you don't know what the hell you're doing so why why
01:58:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)are you so invested in in other people's lives why are you so like emotionally invested what other people do with their lives like I don't feel bad for me I love of course you don't feel bad because you don't know what the hell
01:59:08
Sheenayou're doing if you knew what you're doing you would never be in this position I have six guys that I have sex with you don't know what you're doing you're spreading diseases you making guy think they they can have a booty call whatever they want you say she's spreading disease yes because when you
01:59:20
Sheenahave sex yes it is a nice clim because when you have sex more than two or three guys you have more chance to spread diseases around the block you understand because I'm sure she's not putting with all here's thing here's the thing we
01:59:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)suffering the men the men that are getting with women like me are not the men that you want so why are you so upset about exactly so why are you upet because I can't believe women could be
01:59:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)so dumb and still think they're smart women women women like me go go with men that are like me and women like you go with men that are like you for
01:59:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)every there are men there are men that there aree with my lifestyle that how would I have six friends with benefits if if the men I was with didn't also have the same
02:00:05
Sheenalify what you said it's super dangerous you know why because if you say it's a lid for every pot your lid is going to be super toxic and cause explosion in your children's life money is not
02:00:17
Sheenaeverything money is not everything you don't trade values for money money it's not everything honey I just feel like everyone needs to respect everyone's decision they need to pay the rent so I don't see you paying my rent or feed my
02:00:30
Rileykids so I do what I got to do just respect each other's decision to live differently to be different that's okay you know what drives me crazy about you guys you speak you speak you guys speak
02:00:41
Sheenayou girls you girls speak you girls speak you girls speak like you're intelligent with nice words but honestly God I'm sorry if I'm disrespectful hate me I don't care you you speak you have
02:00:52
Sheenanice words and you speak really nice and like you're intelligent but deep down girls like you are super empty you have nothing to offer for men besides your vagina without your vagina you're nothing without your vagina you're
02:01:04
Sheenanothing you're empty your mind is empty you have no goals in life say say Woman's only purpose to
02:01:15
Sheenachild your purp your purpose your purpose purpose is to pull men okay and give them your vagina and you think it's correct you think it's the right thing
02:01:28
Allisonto do that you can get married again if there was sexual like um what adultery or if they die otherwise if um he just like if you cheat you can't you're not supposed to get married is an adultery
02:01:40
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)technically even if he's fantasizing about another woman yeah but doesn't is that what the big hang up over pornography is all the husbands are cheating in theory with all the porns
02:01:52
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)if I was if I was Muslim would you disrespect my religion so publicly on here would you or is it just because I'm Christian com it's not it's not a particular religion it's a it's a
02:02:04
Sheenamoralist it's a fundamentalist perspective that doesn't work a lot of the that's what I'm attacking don't knowy unfortunately I come from Israel okay and the and the
02:02:17
Sheenaand the religion Christianity started in Israel and when I lived in America long enough I realized that Christians are thinking more normal than anybody I met you guys say oh they're radical they're Christian no no no Jesus this Jesus that
02:02:29
Allisonthey think more normal than you because all these atheist who doesn't believe in God are completely a never question Bes besides Christian does not identify with mental illness like the people who don't
02:02:41
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)identify as Christian besides you you guys just get demon possessed you don't get mentally ill right I'm not demon possessed well you called me you called you said that I was a demon earlier
02:02:51
Allisonliterally ver you definitely a Dem you are definitely back to how you screaming at us at the top my Bel actually no let's talk about it in my Bel I don't even believe in real
02:03:04
Sheenamental illness I do believe that people have demons and spirits yeah I do believe in that so okay and I think you are demon possessed and I think it manifested when but what about psychiatrist who diagnos you like girl
02:03:15
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's just there are more psycho than you you can let the disease like Define who you are you can like psychiatrist that's all part of the government indate
02:03:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)them IND so you do believe that there is actual psychological disorders that aren't just demon possessions okay okay so wait listen demons are not these scary things with
02:03:37
Allisonhorns okay they're principalities they're invisible things they make you act a certain way think a certain way so traumas they're traumas well that's maybe what maybe people have labeled it yeah but if we're going to talk about
02:03:47
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)mental illnesses in relation to religion um why does so hold on first I'm going to make two points so before you jump in but first why are so many do so many Christians start their journey into Christianity because they were depressed
02:04:01
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and they were they needed to find meaning in life and second cuz i' I've heard that a billion times from a billion people all over the Internet second and then second um schizophrenia
02:04:11
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and psychosis and psychosis are both mental illnesses um that prominently feature um religious delusions yes why is that a Thing If if it's not if
02:04:22
Allisonreligious people aren't aren't mentally ill um because you can believe in God and all of that and still have be oppressed by demons and I do believe
02:04:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)schizophrenia is a spiritual thing so is Christianity predetermined then okay and
02:04:40
Rileythen my brother is clinically schizophrenic and he went to prison he's out of jail now but they would not let him plead insanity and he was he wasn't
02:04:51
Rileytaking taking his medication and he shot up a gas station and unfortunately we fought tooth and nail to get him his sentence lowered it was his first offense his he's had so many different
02:05:04
Rileypsychotic breaks and this is the one time that my aunt was not watching him enough for him to take his pills and I listen to you guys on people with mental illness and it's no no don't no
02:05:15
Rileyyou've been saying everything you want to say and it's really sad to hear people like you with no empathy and no understanding when people are out there dying killing themselves in the middle of the street with no help
02:05:27
Rileybecause people like you in the court system telling them that mental illness is not real and it is real because I had to grow up with it and I had to deal with it with my family and it's so disect just because you don't
02:05:39
Allisonexperience it doesn't make it fair for you to judge other it's real because your religion don't a priv look at listen if someone were to go and I'm not trying to say not
02:05:51
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)empathetic I totally am I just think there's something you guys speak I haven't heard one empathe word out of your
02:06:01
Allisongodamn mou stop talking Jezebel Antichrist where's the love you're manifesting Jesus came for the ill Jesus didn't come for the people who thought that they didn't have
02:06:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)CRA trigged this girl is so instantly just so did Jesus he turn I would have turned over this table by now because you're blast
02:06:22
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you are blaspheming the Youth of America right now and I rebuke your godamn name in Jes the way that you're oh I can get crazy as hell scared I can get
02:06:35
Allisoncrazy as hell I'm reing your this how you know everyone look that is a demon manifesting I I hope that CPS I hope that's CPS
02:06:48
TTS/Nick (production)watching this wait wait hold on a demon man CPS are you Islam like that because Islam is correct about women WTF do you think get the
02:06:57
TTS/Nick (production)Rocks means one woman corrected as such and the entire panel start [Music] behaving can I hold on hold on hold on
02:07:09
Brian Atlasis this usually what happens on no definitely not law paladins thank you man um wait Desiree you're talking about blasphemy but in the previous show you said that
02:07:22
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you want or I don't know if it was a dream but you were like you wanted to have carnal knowledge my my biggest fantasy for a
02:07:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)long time was me like every time I went to pray or meditate it was me on the UND patriarchy donated $200 is too strong thank you man one
02:07:44
TTS/Nick (production)moreo to support the show apprciate the support Grace if single Florida welcomes you similar age to Brian not as tall but not as autistic good night all ah okay
02:07:56
Brian Atlasnot as tall but also Florida thank you yeah thank you patriarchy appreciate it I'm going to read a couple chats here it's been a interesting show it's been an interesting show all right hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on I'm
02:08:08
Brian Atlassorry I got to read some chats here Captain Tim overpopulation in is a myth bro can you guys spell check these before you send them through thank you Captain Tim for the Super Chat the
02:08:19
Brian AtlasWestern world is not even a repl at replacement rate for live births Israel I believe is the only one that is above replacement Captain Tim thank you for the Super Chat man appreciate it oh wait
02:08:32
Brian Atlasthese you can just pull up as they come but uh thank you Captain Tim appreciate it and then there's a chat here from wrath PSA Grace please help us use shut
02:08:42
Brian Atlasthe up button you are close enough Brian give her control okay uh yeah if it's if I'm away from the table you can do you can hit this one shot the that one's pretty good you can use that
02:08:53
Brian Atlasone if it's just getting unhinged thank you wrath PSA appreciate it man thank you for that okay this is uh did let's finish up the relationship
02:09:02
Allisonstatus please but yeah Tak like three hours S three hours I know I just hate that I need to
02:09:11
Allisonfinish that um question I am single um I'm uh I've been single for quite a few months and my longest relationship was 6 years I definitely thought you were
02:09:24
Allisonmarried for some reason with children yeah no I have a daughter I was not a Christian when I had her all right Grace what about you I'm single all right uh how long you been
02:09:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)single for middle of May so three months all right I know I tried to warn him did you see that last comment Brian we're not we
02:09:45
Brian Atlasdon't read below the threshold um oh it was funny longest relationship six months all right cool so we've got everybody's relationship
02:09:56
Brian Atlasstatus that was hard let's do a reset here I want to get through I want to get through the rest of the show notes here so uh why we get into some of the show
02:10:05
Brian Atlasnotes starting with Shirley did I give any did you did you let me look let's see uh you were let's see you wanted to talk
02:10:16
Brian Atlasabout being the side skeleton emoji I said that yeah when bro we've been you've been trying to get on the show for a year and it finally happened
02:10:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I haven't I haven't I had to find a way to Santa Barbara let's get that clear two hours and first of TR recording recording artist not drive on the I was
02:10:39
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)doing PR and a recording artist told me about your podcast and he thought he could get on but then you said it was only females which I didn't know so then it turned into oh maybe I'll come on but okay what was the what was a question
02:10:52
Brian Atlasyeah and one of your you said you wanted to talk about being a side being the side oh my God I mean my life has changed a lot now so so but were you the side previously um once yeah
02:11:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)wait who hasn't has has anyone else I had a little stint with being the side for I mean it's not fun but I can't believe I I had fun with it I had what is the side you have like and then when you get bored of the
02:11:16
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)main person you go to the your side your mistress so she were you were the side but I didn't know were you the side is that your last relationship no I was in a real relationship and I I was heartbroken basically he's coming on you
02:11:29
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and go to his wife to love her and kiss her you're like his toilet basically it's a front the main is always the front the side is the real deal the point not the real deal only delusional woman like you can say stop stop stop
02:11:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)let her finish that's crazy that's hilarious that I said that it was in the nuts go ahead that's hilarious um I mean that situation was like not knowing you're the side and then finding
02:11:52
Brian Atlasout and have you ever had a guy who was the side no I don't do I don't do I'm monogamous you're monogamous you said you wanted to speak on only fans
02:12:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)did I yeah damn damn like a year ago from from a year I know I'm like wait when did I give these a female doesn't remember what she said last week she can't remember what she
02:12:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)said a year ago anyways only that's true for me we're old so I'm a I'm a journalist a lot of people respect me in in hip-hop for interviewing Rappers that's what I'm
02:12:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)known for in La kind of um only fans approached me and reached out to me to onboard me as a media personality journalist so I thought I was going to
02:12:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)go on there and like teach people how to do journalism blah blah blah I get on there and it's literally like the opposite of what they made it seem to be so I feel like girls that
02:12:46
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)accidentally stumble onto only fans can quickly get sucked in to what only fans is which is like I did not want to see dick piics at all like it was just a
02:12:57
Brian Atlasvery shocking experience word okay and then aside from that you also were on the I guess I don't know what the name of his show is Jesse Lee Peterson oh my God that was I had no idea what I was
02:13:09
Brian Atlasgetting into yeah that was a good one that was a good one now you on that show I just had I saw one or two clips from it you said that you that went uh do not
02:13:21
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)want to get married or I mean no I would love to know where my soulmate is of course I thought my ex was my soulmate so I'm just focused on myself right now cuz I'm not worried about
02:13:32
Brian Atlasrelationships but you said you right now anyways you're not like trying to get married cuz you have a lot going on yeah not really pressed about getting married do you want kids one day or I'm not sure
02:13:43
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I mean do you want kids I'm definitely afraid of child birth but I feel like is this bad I want to for my parents like I feel like yeah that's normal yeah my parents would love to see grandchildren
02:13:56
Brian Atlasmy brother just got married so I feel like they're really happy with him but I every time they see me they mention it so now on the show you said that uh you've never dated an Asian man what's
02:14:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)wrong with that oh my gosh nothing wrong with that nothing wrong she has the affinity for the rumors are true the rumors are true girl I mean I just don't find Asian man attractive is shley has
02:14:20
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)an affinity for dark chocolate that's not true I'm not racist throw throw not racist okay that's not a racist it's a preference it's a sexual preference do
02:14:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like like do you exclusively date black guys your friend said that you only like black guys I don't only like black only mostly my ex was black but the last three guys you've dated n the first one
02:14:43
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)at UCSB was actually Persian but it didn't work out yeah okay reaction we met making out black J what was that are you able to SC
02:14:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)to the table black I don't know is I the same as it was in 20 what do you mean 209 there's like no black people here 20 no no I'm just saying it's true there's
02:15:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)not there's not l in town four black people serly so okay uh Persian guy white white guy black eyy is that
02:15:16
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)the history the white guy was a rebound but it wasn't a relationship and and my ex was black yeah okay what's her type what's her type I'm
02:15:27
Brian Atlasnot going to say I work in hip-hop I like yeah like but but you've never never M she obviously likes m& what's wrong
02:15:36
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)with how many people here have dated an Asian guy oh I I I I an Asian guy once and I literally had to
02:15:45
Brian Atlasleave my Tamp on it was as if I was gay I would date Asian dudes I believe that someone if I was gay someone you got take it up the ass that makes total
02:15:56
Rileysense what the they have the smallest sticks what the that's not true that's not that's out of pocket that's racist RAC that's
02:16:07
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)racist you can't just be saying that I've only been with I've only been with one I had a conf how you going to say they all have small I apologize I
02:16:18
Rileyback the you was talking to at small look that Cera I it was so small I got traumatized honest with you I was like I can't I can't do this look into that camera and apologize to all the Asian men watching I'm sorry Asian men I went
02:16:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)to school with Y tell them they have normalized penises I say it Desiree say it they have normal siiz brains I'll say that what the God damn you crazy I I I I can't speak the
02:16:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)dicks I haven't seen enough Asians the Asians don't subscribe to my only fans subscribe and send me the dick pics prove me wrong prove me wrong guys okay go ahead she so anyways so anyways um
02:16:53
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)going back to you Brian uh so you've never dated a Asian guy no I'm sorry you just don't like find them attractive or I feel like when you word it when you paint it like that
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Rileyit's it sounds worse than I've just never found I just never dated an agan guy is it in it's inadvertently is that what you're saying yeah like it's not it's just what you're exposed to you're around certain types of people is Kean
02:17:15
Brian AtlasReeves Asian I love him or is he half he's like half right half white half would you date ke Rees I don't find him attractive you don't find ke Rees oh he's so attractive I think it's I think it's
02:17:29
Sheenamore who he is though yeah it's his intelligence I was like going to set you up with him after the show he's a listen you missing you you missing so much you know why because when you say I don't date this I don't date that I never said that they said that no no you
02:17:42
Sheenasaid you're not attracted to Asian guys right so I'm thinking the world is so big why are we wait let me finish no wait I just want to say something you never know when you meet someone that he could be not attractive to you and then
02:17:54
Brian Atlaswhen you talk to him he could be amazing don't close your options I appreciate that CL your options okay so um you think of your brother um
02:18:04
Brian Atlasokay I didn't mean to go there but I love my brother to my brother can you just say that about like your brother's a male so you don't date
02:18:14
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)males wait what what my my brother's Asian so I don't date Asians I never I just it's like it's too close to home like you have my brother's a male well I mean Brian you can kind of understand
02:18:26
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like what if do you have a sister do you have a sister yeah but I would date white women but I but I would imagine it might be a little awkward I not date white women because my sister sister it
02:18:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)might be a little creepy right if notep saying if you're out there in the world meeting women and somebody reminds you of your you're probably going to be like I'll pass on that one there's other
02:18:48
Brian Atlasoptions I don't no no woman's skin color would ever remind me of my like just by virtue I'm just
02:18:58
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)saying go a little deeper exactly no I'm okay I think grow growing trying to make sense from the nonsense growing up with traditional Asian parents was really tough for me and I'm still healing that
02:19:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)trauma so I think hold on hold on so I think I don't really like identify I don't like working in my industry I never look at myself like oh I'm Asian but growing up I I was very I I just I
02:19:23
Brian Atlashated my parents growing up would you dat an Asian rapper what I I mean like what if they're in the ENT like I'm not saying all Asian men AR dat a BTS guy like K-pop guy would you get date a K-pop guy I don't know if we Vibe I
02:19:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)don't know I'm saying Asian men aren't attractive I just haven't come across one that I would want to who's like a uh Asian I think
02:19:46
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Asian is yes thei withi w i i don't know what he looks like that
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Rileyone sing it sing it I don't know no word I don't like that song I like the song I actually like the song it's just a Tik to like I can't get away from you said
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you had a tough upbringing yeah so I feel like I was I used to literally cry in bed asking God why he put me in this family so being Asian was actually really hard
02:20:21
Sheenaidentity identity the the Asians that's the problem you should be proud that you Asian I know I mean now I am now I am but growing up it was really hard cuz I was around all the white people and their families were way better and I was
02:20:34
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)embarrassed about my parents so I think me resisting Asian culture has a oh my God has a is a factor in that okay but now I've I'm way more stable and have made peace and I'm you know did you have
02:20:46
Brian Atlasan emo phase yeah definitely we were just talking about that CU you like the the you got the Swoop a little bit you've got a little bit of swoop it's swo I think it needs to come back though I'm a
02:21:00
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)fan Blink 182 on our way here remember when it was like this that
02:21:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)was taking back makeup old their face godamn Des shut shut up please God dang I don't um anyways I
02:21:23
Brian Atlasthink this women should bring back the swoop I think it's a good look yes so Props to you Shirley for being a Trailblazer you've been rocking the swoop for wait I don't I thought
02:21:33
Brian Atlasmen had the swoop I'm confused they did have the swoop but also can you Google em anyway anyways uh so okay tough
02:21:43
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)upbringing you were on Jesse Lee Peterson the big thing was I was so mad our men our men I think he asked you are men equal to women oh my gosh this
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Brian Atlasnot you Jessie Jessie Jesse yeah sorry no his viewpoints were absolutely insane well I think the biggest one that you
02:22:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)got into was uh something about men should never hit a woman am I wrong no you're not wrong than you I do like you
02:22:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)guys if the woman was attacking a man could subdue do her without having to strike her if you strike and you're throwing blows you don't know the D what do you mean you think he could strike
02:22:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you she probably going to ask him to H her also that's circumstantial because if a woman is coming at you with a KN totally that's true I'm only saying could just like subdue her rather
02:22:40
Rileythan hit her I just think that's a more safe but if a woman's coming at you with knif but you like to be a slave exception I think you like to be a slave great area for to be violent with you
02:22:51
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)when you like to be a slave I'm just curious as a slave you don't like a little violent with you I'm not like a pain masochist so I don't I don't ask for the physical stuff but if a man
02:23:02
Sheenaalready has that those fantasies then I will allow him to reenact a little different to if he's my man like if it's somebody that I have that so he can humiliate you and beat you so what he can humiliate you and beat you if I
02:23:14
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)consent to it so he would have to tell me the scene he wants to do and the feel he wants and then I can like see what my boundaries are like some things are too far and I'm like no I'm not going to do that but other things I'm like okay yeah
02:23:25
Brian Atlaslike I can do it it's fine okay you it's fine that's fine that's F okay um but so going around the table do you think it's okay for a
02:23:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)man to hit a woman in self-defense going starting with Shirley starting with Shirley go ahead Shirley I mean the way she put it if a woman is coming at you with a knife then
02:23:46
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)obviously no knife she's just trying to strike you she's just giving you knew that good freaking box of I feel like this is what I went viral for and I don't want to say it again why not say
02:23:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)oh I don't think a man should have a girl okay Des what about you I just think that man should know his own strength and then be able to judge the situation like if he really needs to strike her for literally his
02:24:11
Sheenaself-defense then I think it's Justified Vic yeah I think it's circumstantial so Riley circumstantial same for sure two words to say first of all if you let a
02:24:22
Sheenawoman a man be a pretending he's a woman and win the swimming competition that actually was fake way so wait wait wait oh wait was that no wait because you you you make me forget my point so I think a lot of women actually want to antagonize
02:24:35
Sheenathe men so they beat them and do something to them not all women but a lot of women she right right and if the woman do it and if I were a man I would punch that I would punch that woman exactly no facts if you're trying to
02:24:46
Sheenafight me like a man it's honestly that's kinky not sex we're not talking everything released back to God SE they it's like you have a virus of sex all
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)the time sex I understand the psychology don't understand you're not a psychologist you're not a therapist you're just a psycho they talk about sex
02:25:06
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)psychologist has explained that our all of your psychology is coming down you absolutely should not give ex
02:25:17
Rileyit that's fine or teach anybody about anything honey who manifested that's not true um Des a question oh my God you should not give advises to people cares all right
02:25:29
Brian Atlasso saying saying here let's get responses from everybody go ahead please so what was a question again is it okay is it okay for a man to in self-defense strike a
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Brian Atlaswoman I was we play the clip let me find I'm finding the C I'm finding the clip shley no dude it's I saw it on Tik Tok or something it's been it went viral every surely oh this is the
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)EM bring it back bring it back that was the best not have that uh shirely Jessie you
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Sheenahave Gorgeous Hair by the way H I love your I need like wish is that your color I'm so without
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Brian Atlasblow dry in my hair I'm like I can't this mine oh my God somebody just told me uh they were answering me when I read let's get the answers guys let's get the answers I'll tell you uh I would say
02:26:29
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like if he if I would put my position in my position if I was man and had to because I'm in a situation where come on somebody coming at me and
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TTS/Nick (production)trying to like hit me I would not directly heit her but just cover myself Jimmy donated $200 thank in
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TTS/Nick (production)defense it's fine we see no one should touch another Des if someone hit you upside your head you might make more sense Israeli mommy
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SheenaFTW I wouldn't get to that Israeli mommy is a w what does that mean oh for the win it means they like you oh thank you they like you thank you
02:27:11
Brian Atlasguys there you go let me let me read giovan's chat here uh thank you Jimmy f for the TTS Giovani says Grace based redhead based even though she's probably a Protestant heretic definitely she's
02:27:23
Brian Atlasbeautiful IDF chick based black girl using sa victims to justify consensual promiscuity was absolutely foul shame on you what's IDF Israel Defense Force what did they
02:27:34
Rileysay about the IDF he he said they're saying that that's you and that they like you mhm I know how to shoot again do you have a response rile um defend she laughed I
02:27:46
Rileyfeel like I think the person that responded didn't understand what what I was trying to explain so I mean I don't really care what he saying I don't think he understood but I think he was trying
02:27:58
Rileyto say like we were talking about consensual sex well no they were generalizing so I was saying if you're speaking about I said if you're speaking about a demographic you're speaking small because there's a whole world out
02:28:10
Rileythere of experiences so just to say that one group of people specifically we can't just talk about everybody if you're saying these small group of women are affecting all of women is a generalization because it's not so
02:28:23
Rileythat's what my that's the context of what I was trying to explain there's very isolated there's isolated incidents where maybe the girl is you know the thing happened so she's trying to figure
02:28:34
Rileyit out we got to give some people Grace and then there's some people who are just doing what they do and that is toxic so there that's all I'm saying I am still trying to find the Shirley
02:28:50
Rileyfind that I was mad as doing that I was mad I was pissed off piss and he kept me in there for an hour I feel like they clipped what you said and they clipped it at the right part to make you
02:29:01
Brian Atlaslook crazy here Nick I'm going to send you this s a little put the speed on 1.5 Nick private chat speed 1.5 uh sh we should get Jesse on the show what do you think should we get him on the show who's Jessie Jess Lee
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SheenaPeterson do I thought you don't I thought you don't have would you debate with him yeah we get guys sometimes I they do I actually you want to come back you can do round two with Jesse oh God I want to come back and do a round with Jessie
02:29:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)even though I know yes Nick do you have it why not we don't know what you signed up for with this man this man is triflin let's see all right is it at
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Brian Atlas1.5 yeah all right let skip forward a little bit oh can wait hold on oh he's very smart audio audio I like him are you
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SPEAKER_14serious he's super smart wait has the audio been down this whole time I don't even know who this he is super super smart okay all right can we go ahead I he's a woman and he's competing in women's sport and he's beating them out
02:30:01
Sheenashould men participate in women's sport oh this wait hold on should remember what's a women's sport wait this is Skip for can you skip basketball women's sport should should men play with women
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SPEAKER_14you look good there women transgender should the transgender manip about it should she be angry about
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Sheenanot you to men uh no I'm just looking out like right cuz men should never hit a woman okay go back go back go back a little blurry there cuz what uh see that
02:30:34
SheenaI feel like it's a little like a little blurry there cuz wait I can you start it when the question is posed I think you got just start it there we'll see okay about it should she
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SPEAKER_14be angry about that I don't know if I'm competitive I might be a little mad but yeah really yeah should women be allowed to play men Sports uh see that I feel like it's a little like a little blurry
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Sheenathere cuz men can be a little more rough so I would hate for a woman to get hurt along the way that's more proof than women are not equal to men uhhuh no I'm just looking out like right cuz men
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)should never hit a woman why not that's just up what why why should a man hit a woman to protect himself oh man this is this is a lot what do you mean I just disagree with your viewpoints why that you you think a man should hit a woman
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SPEAKER_14should a woman hit him yes I do I don't think violence is the answer to anything no in protection he's self-defense let's say a woman he shouldn't just go around hind just for no reason but let's say that should women hit men no right so if a woman should hit a man she need smack
02:31:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)them back no why not cuz she's a girl she doesn't know that uh she can get away with everything so if a woman smack a man what should he do he probably deserved it to be honest what yeah you want him play this game let's go and doesn't she deserve to be smacked back
02:31:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)she's a girl girl guys should not hit girls but girls should hit guys I never said that no but if they do the guys should smack them back no why not cuz guys shouldn't hit girls why cuz it's it's just that's that's just unfair well how because girls are tender and
02:31:57
SPEAKER_14beautiful creatures that should not be hit but don't they know that before they hit the man that they can't handle it I don't know uhhuh I have no idea so if she smack him one time for example and he smacking back would that send a loud message you can't be treat me this way just
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SPEAKER_14stop I don't think the guy should ever hit the girl really yeah not even to protect himself against no what is he protecting he he's a human being just as she is and they no one should treat each other that way yeah is never the answer
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)right that's what I think have you a smack the guy uh oh yeah I think so I'm not a violent person I will cuss a out though I would curse a out but no I don't I don't I don't Smack
02:32:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)yes wow thanks for letting me relive that you're welcome this guy reached out to me on YouTube and was like on on reached out to me and emailed me like hey come on my
02:32:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)show we've had Amber Rose on and all these big people on I was like okay you know my YouTube is I'm trying to get on on YouTube and yeah that was wild anyway wait you said the man probably
02:32:55
Brian Atlasdeserved it wait hide this for a second you're coming at me hard bro but like so if a okay wait so surely surely surely so like if a guy gets smacked does he
02:33:06
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)deserve it sometimes no by the girl like if he gets smacked do he deserve it I'm sure the girl had a reason but can you say the same thing like if a guy were to smack a woman did she can you say the
02:33:18
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)same innately than women that was the point I was trying to make like sure yeah they could hurt a female way more than you know like it could be it could be considered assault with a deadly weapon I don't think legally a woman
02:33:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)beating a man just with her body that's not considered assault with a deadly weapon it's different transgender not allowed to do things even if a man were to beat a woman with his fist you don't
02:33:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)have a designation of because you're a man that's assault with a deadly weapon no you need a literal deadly weapon like a your your fist depending on the size
02:33:52
Brian Atlasdifference I'm a battered woman I know this stuff you know this stuff I'm look I don't know the specific seual I don't know the specifics of it I'm pretty sure that if you're getting beat with fists
02:34:04
Brian Atlasyour fist cannot be considered deadly weapons black oh really no that's that's too that's true no that you don't have to register your
02:34:14
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)fish says deadly that's bll that's that's no different in how surgeons Chuck Norris has to register his
02:34:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)deadly weap that's that's not a thing kill someone with a fist though so could the woman I'm telling you it's a thing no I don't think so if you're I dude actually I'm not going to say that on camera but like you could definitely
02:34:36
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)mess someone somebody up yeah really women can kill men just by this stress I never did no no no I'm saying you definitely could true like tell us the truth Grace who did you up no one
02:34:47
Rileyno one tell us you're like I'm like I said it's Case by case like if a man's attacking you or he's trying to do something like you whoop his ass if a woman's running after you and attacking
02:34:59
TTS/Nick (production)you you're going to have to defend yourself the whole the sex thing out window mean wait are you an attorney whatever attorney here Des that is
02:35:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)absolutely not how the law works please stop talking and there is no requirement for their chares for man hitting me with
02:35:20
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)his fist and he got charged with a don't say nobody will ever date you be so dumb like he did he have brass knuckles he was a really good fighter like a street fighter I mean I'm pretty sure I'm
02:35:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)pretty sure that no he legit was like a thug so guys with C particular fighting skill he pistol whip you no he literally
02:35:40
Brian Atlasused his fist it's your bring but I don't know the
02:35:50
Brian Atlasit's your fault because you're bring an unsafe guy to your life stop I don't care how strong the man is I don't care how well trained he is again look maybe Giovani can correct us here if he's just
02:36:00
Brian Atlasstriking you with his fist not saying it's right I don't understand so you're saying that my shut the up you got Des you have to let people finish dude you can't interrupt people you
02:36:13
Brian Atlasunderstand take your goofy ass glasses off while you're at it godamn take them off Des take them off if I had a headache I could wear him yeah but now you need more of a headache
02:36:24
Brian Atlasso a heada now ni headache so I was trying to say I'm pretty certain regardless of a man's training I'm telling you you're wrong are you just
02:36:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like are you just ARS slor you got to shut up and let people finish you're spreading false information to you're spreading information sentence yo you need to like
02:36:45
Brian Atlasshut up and let people finish holy okay first off you're spreading false information literally not yeah you are
02:36:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)so in any case I'm literally not you literally me that my life didn't happen no Des that's what you're telling me you're telling me I just made this
02:37:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I say that you did you didn't it's not a thing I'm telling you it is a thing you're literally fighting with the love of your life fine you were so you were I don't sometimes I have to put him in his
02:37:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)place sometimes you're wrong sometimes you're wrong Brian sometimes you're literally wrong so I'm not doubting that you were assaulted I'm doub charged with assault with a deadly
02:37:29
Brian Atlasweapon for beating me with his fist what was the deadly weapon what did you say okay I got to Google this just for the S please but I I feel like oh my God
02:37:40
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)goodness poor I feel like this did happen to her so it's valid that that it's a thing that a man can be charged with her fist what's your name I forgot Shirley can I can I hold on hold on so I have something here okay here we go um
02:37:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)can you put it on the screen so we know you're not capping I can tell you right now well so there's two I'm getting variants in the exactly it's a case by case basic it's not the norm but it's is
02:38:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)a thing depending on the man's history you're so annoying and she said the guy had fighting yes he was like a thug he had a record disturbing the love of my life
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Brian Atlasagain so hold on hold on was this in Cali was it in California yeah why just answer the question just answer the question was it oh okay okay
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Brian Atlaswhat was that last one hold on hold on let me so it says in California the California criminal jury instruction state that hands and feet are not considered deadly weapons when charging someone with assault with a deadly
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Brian Atlasweapon however to your point the California Supreme Court has recognized that hands and feet can be weapons that cause serious bodily
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)injury but it's not clear just because they can be weapons that cause serious bodily injury that they are considered they have to bead there has to be a certain intent behind the beating if the
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)intent was to cause serious harm or death okay I'll just considered assault with a deadly I'll just grant it I'll Grant it there seems to be some dispute I'll just grant I just want to say one little thing in that's Des to an extent
02:39:15
Brian Atlasdesire sweetheart let me tell you something huh if if I was a man and I had to date you I would bit the out of you whoa that's a that's crazy disavow disavow the whatever podcast
02:39:27
Sheenadoes not endorse you guys should do like a she wrong how can a man be with a woman like you cra the M scoot to you talk about scoot to the edge sorry you go you talk
02:39:38
Sheenaabout only about sex everything turned out to sexual you say that you want to be a slave you say that you want to be a how do you call it baby daddy or whatever it is a baby girl
02:39:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)no conversation that it's like politics something normal everything is around I've brought up politics I brought up yeah buty I've brought up the healing journey I brought up my self-help book
02:40:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)everything Circle in sex I brought up sexual education you even said the world do you understand that think about sex like every 10 seconds matter but you popular I am wait you know what's the
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Sheenadifferent between you know what the differ between you know what's the difference between women you want to know what's the differ listen to me for a second that's right you know what's the difference between men and women different they're lying you want to know
02:40:27
Sheenathe difference between men and women in sex you want to know the difference between men and women in sex women are the portal of the universe they're bringing kids to the world wait a second
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Sheenayou already brought your kids you passed your Prime so now you need so are you so yes of course I passed my Prime we're a support group then like I'm not trying I'm not going to lie to myself and tell myself that I'm a 25y old and I get all
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Sheenathe men in the world that's why I'm not in competition with you I passed my prom and I'm proud of it because I lived my life I had my son I'm not in competition with young anymore no I like sex of course I like sex but not in a way that
02:41:03
SheenaI open my portal and gate to every every guest that want to come well that's why I have an only fans they can't touch me I don't know what the but you know what but they see you it's paying my they see
02:41:13
Sheenayou it's hour you trade it honey you traded let me listen listen to me if I go hours a week and leave my in child you have the privilege you have the
02:41:25
Sheenaprivilege you have the privilege to listen to to a woman like me okay you have the privilege sorry but I don't want your life I'm not you I don't know why you're trying to advice for a life you have the privilege to have wisdom
02:41:37
Sheenabecause nobody in your circle going to tell you the truth sh nobody in your circle going to tell you the truth okay nobody in your circle going to tell you the truth about who you are okay and how you live your life you work one hour a week you spread your leges or whatever
02:41:50
Sheenayou do in only fan you think it's going to give you a future it's called capitalism h no it's not capitalism it's prostituting in the camera it doesn't matter if they touch you smell you whatever they can see your vagina and how you given in the in the
02:42:02
Sheenacamera this is something you could never take away and your son when he grab they're going to tell him your mom is a hoe oh my God your mom did only fans you don't understand you tra raised in ax
02:42:13
SheenaEnviron you traded you traded value for money you traded value for money money is here for you and the values are here and a normal person like her and her and her their values are here and they don't
02:42:26
Sheenacare about the money they care more about their values and you could be a cleaning lady go clean 10 houses a day 10 hours a day what the would I clean I'm almost 40 years in go in and prostitute yourself oh and your vagina
02:42:38
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)doesn't hurt no my vagina doesn't hurt it's in very good shape thank you really I don't believe don't piss myself or anything like you do what do I do because I do my with a dick whenever
02:42:50
Sheenasomeone raises their voice and starts calling you cuss words that's just when you can just ignore them no no but why did you Saye that you you pe your pants I don't pee myself I have listen if you get into it
02:43:03
SheenaI'm even small and young over there do you use what toys do you use what everyone is obsessed with sex honestly I'm getting to be I don't use toys because sex it's not my main thing if I have a boyfriend and I love him and I have something with him I would do it
02:43:16
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)with him no I don't need toys because my life it's not around it's not the most important thing in the world Des didn't you say the world doesn't revolve around sex why do you keep bringing every single topic no I literally said the world does revolve around sex honey
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's what she exactly that's literally what the world revolves around that's the problem that's why you're not normal that's why you doesn't have a normal respectfully store theore
02:43:39
TTS/Nick (production)patriarchy donated $500 last one but this is a gift to the viewers please shut up de she allows every man to finish won't allow the panel to finish a
02:43:51
Allisonconversation some dude will definitely H and kill her that's but see that's how the World Views you though when you wait on but
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Sheenayou should care no I should she cares for so fck give a you give a you give a you just lost that's what you
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Brian Atlaslost zip it you just your mic is muted so you can't you can't talk you got to 10 minute 10 minute mute that's it you can do that yeah we can do that it was
02:44:24
Brian Atlasnecessary it was definitely I agree with Riley over there definitely necessary super necessary all right where the hell were we can I finish my sentence to her because finally her mic is yeah her mic
02:44:35
Sheenais off so I want to well she can't respond I exactly so I to 20 seconds then I'm moving it on you know what's the problem what I said before it's your copon mechanism you only learned since you were little to deal with the world
02:44:47
Sheenaall your path it's through sex so you think sex is the most important thing you didn't have one conversation not in the other two podcast and not today that it's normal so I can't even imagine how you do it with your family with your kids with a guy that you're dating
02:44:59
Sheenabecause the only trademark you have to trade with a guy it's your vagina you have nothing else and your mental illness that's why no guy no normal guy would be with you only guy only guy that
02:45:11
Sheenaneed a slave or or a guy with a with a pervert only a pervert only a pervert who wants something pervert would be with you normal guy would never be with you she belongs I have I have like a a
02:45:23
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)piggyback off of your point so so obviously desire is just very obsessed with sex but I think you're also very obsessed with sex but in the opposite no no no no no but in the opposite way
02:45:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)where you think it's the most important thing that you have to withhold it and you can't give it to people you think you put such a high pedestal on SE of course that put that's the same that's the same perspective as
02:45:47
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)thinking are you listening to this yes listen saying listen to this that's the that's the same perspective that she has just no let me tell you're saying you have a lot of one thing it becomes
02:45:58
Sheenaless valuable since you're not understanding and you respond weird answer your answer is weird and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why no but I want to respond to you no I want to tell I want to I want to I want to say what I
02:46:10
Sheenawant to say for this you saying that I'm obsessed with it no I value myself my body is like a temple if I give my thing to somebody else to someone else it has
02:46:20
Sheenato be somebody who respect me who who be continue by seeing me and not just for this I'm not a booty call I'm not giving my body just to give my body because I control my urge even if I'm I really
02:46:32
Sheenareally want sex I can control myself I'm not going to give my body to somebody just because I can't hold myself and I need sex right now that's the difference I don't work and act for my impulse
02:46:44
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's having an obession need to work from their impulse it's having an obsession with sex because you you think sex yes you think sex is so important sex important it's protecting yourself
02:46:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)and your body it's important not from sex you think sex is so important that this it's this big thing that you that's the most important thing about you is preserving yourself and saving yourself
02:47:05
Sheenathat's thinking real real volume man that's thinking sex Am I Wrong a volum high volume man what is the right to go with a hold that give her body to everybody or a woman that hold herself
02:47:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)that's the same thing that's thinking sex is the most important thing in the world not all not at all I'm a high value woman and I'm not just having sex with anybody just because I need to have sex you're you're making sex the commodity sex is the commodity here
02:47:31
Sheenathat's that's making it the most no it's our body is the commodity our body sex is the commodity disrespect your body your body with sex is the commodity and that's that's the thing that's the most
02:47:42
SheenaI bet you any money after you have sex with a guy wait after after you have sex with a guy right right wait after you have sex with a guy that it's not a
02:47:52
Sheenaserious relationship right when you have this orgasm or whatever you're going to feel super empty lonely sitting during the bed alone and thinking oh I wish I had a relationship because you know you abused yourself to death is and you can
02:48:05
Sheenahave that you Jus Define yourself as a coping mechanism to put my point in the wrong place no you are not you're not understanding my point is that you're making sex the most important commodity
02:48:17
Allisonabout a woman it's your body explain to her please yes you did we we're not obsessed with sex think no we're not though you're not you're not obsessed with having sex you're obsessed with withholding I'm not obsessed it's just a value that I hold
02:48:31
Allisonvalue her body why is that the most important listen I don't blow with the Wind of whatever trend is going on what the culture is I'm not going to subdue to that but why but why is sex the most important thing to you it's not the most important thing then what's the most
02:48:43
Sheenaimportant thing what are you going to what you going to do why is your body important what are you going to do when you 50 years and you already slept with thousands of men let do the math if you have at a time six men if you have six men right
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Sheenalet's say in a course of a month can you do it because I can't multiply in my head six times okay okay she can do it six times okay six times uh six mens sorry in one month do it in a course of
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)40 years I want to know how many mens are there oh well that be 72 * 7240 Z damn probably carry the five you
02:49:23
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)doinga please say that oh are you guys actually conf for an answer okay hold on 40 * 72 if you do 40 * 40 That's
02:49:34
Sheena2,880 2018 exactly your vagina going to be worned out you going to be exactly your vagina thank you your vagina going to be worn out okay you're not going to be
02:49:47
Sheenayoung and Youthful because this is your right now sorry to tell you but you're not exceptionally beautiful you don't have a gorgeous body you have to the vagina you have her vagina
02:49:57
Sheenagoing to be used and abused you not have Abed you you don't have exceptional Beauty you're not hot you don't have kids you don't have marri sorry to tell you that sorry wait you're going to wake up 40 not so beautiful you don't have
02:50:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)your youth anymore what are you going to do you're going to kill I think the real problem would be all the sexual diseases out of 2,000 people the odds are high you you guys are missing the point you said okay so I said you guys said sex isn't the most
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Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)important thing your body is why is your body the most important thing self relation what what are you for a second let let explain it to our rationally the
02:50:33
Sheenamost important because you no you you ask a question let me answer because not all your life you're going to be young with a horniness because that we live by our hormones when your hormones level going
02:50:46
Sheenato go down when you're 40 and 50 and you don't feel safe sexual anymore you're not going to have a trade to trade you're not going to have a a something to trade and if you don't have a kid a husband and kids okay what are you