Diagnosed Psychopath?! Doomsday Desiree DESTROYED By Based Grace & Shina?! | Dating Talk #186
Date: 2024-08-12
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sheena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Allison(guest)
SPEAKER_05Riley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
Key Moments
00:04:17
IntroShirley JW introduces herself as 33yo LA-based journalist/host with hip-hop background.
“My name is Shirley JW. I'm 33 years old. I'm based in Los Angeles. I'm a journalist on-camera host.”
00:05:02
IntroDesiree Noel (returning) introduces herself as 38yo Southern California single mom.
“My name is Desiree Noel. I am 38, from Southern California.”
00:06:05
IntroVic introduces herself as 23yo East Coast TikToker diagnosed with ASPD/psychopathy.
“I'm Vic. I'm 23 and I'm a content creator on TikTok. I was diagnosed with ASPD.”
00:16:07
IntroRiley introduces herself as 31yo LA recording artist doing witchy dark R&B.
“Hi, my name is Riley. I'm 31 and I'm a recording artist.”
00:19:30
IntroSheena (returning) introduces herself as 50yo entrepreneur, former Israeli actress.
“I'm Sheena. I'm 50 and I'm an entrepreneur. I was an actress for 20 years in Israel.”
00:19:54
IntroJennifer introduces herself as 26yo originally from El Salvador, Lyft driver.
“My name is Jennifer. I'm 26, almost 27. I'm coming from Thousand Oaks, originally from El Salvador.”
00:20:22
IntroAllison introduces herself as 30yo evangelist from Wisconsin/Texas.
“My name is Allison. I am 30. I am an evangelist and I work for a tech company.”
00:20:33
IntroGrace introduces herself as 19yo UCSB math student.
“My name is Grace. I'm 19. I'm a student at UCSB. I'm originally from Southern California. I'm studying math.”
00:24:13
QuoteVic describes her ASPD as feeling like a video game — clicking yes to every risky prompt with no fear.
“It's kind of like a video game... a prompt comes up and tells you if you continue this could happen... and I always click yes.”
01:21:36
QuoteRiley shares that her brother is clinically schizophrenic, shot up a gas station, and she fought for his sentence to be reduced — emotional personal disclosure.
“My brother is clinically schizophrenic... he shot up a gas station... we fought tooth and nail to get him his sentence lowered.”
01:42:36
QuoteDesiree claims to have six active friends-with-benefits simultaneously, prompting strong reaction from Sheena.
“I have six guys that I have sex with.”
01:46:30
QuoteSheena tells Desiree that without her vagina she is nothing, prompting outrage from panel.
“Without your vagina you're nothing. Without your vagina you're empty. Your mind is empty.”
01:59:55
QuoteSheena says she believes people have demons and spirits; calls Desiree demon-possessed.
“I do believe that people have demons and spirits. And I think you are demon possessed.”
02:02:07
ControversyAllison calls Grace "Jezebel Antichrist" and shouts at her during demon-possession vs. mental illness debate. Escalates to full panel argument.
“You are definitely a demon. Jezebel Antichrist.”
02:13:56
ControversySheena confronts Desiree and Grace during the sex work debate, accusing them of being mentally ill and empty.
“You girls speak like you're intelligent with nice words but deep down you're super empty.”
04:30:00
ControversySheena repeatedly calls Desiree "dumb" and "crazy" over disputed military claims (Desiree's fast-track to combat surgeon story).
“You are dumb. You are dumb and crazy. That's why you're on this show — you're the entertainment.”
04:48:00
OtherShirley and Riley leave the show mid-way (~4:47) to be replaced by Morgan and Maddie in the second panel.
“Shirley and Riley thank the audience and depart.”
Topics Discussed
00:04:17
Guest Introductions
All 8 first-panel guests introduce themselves. Vic (ASPD/psychopath TikToker) receives extended discussion on her diagnosis, symptoms, and risky behaviors.
00:06:05
Vic's ASPD / Psychopathy Discussion
Extended exploration of Vic's ASPD diagnosis — diagnostic criteria, lack of fear response, manipulation, impulsivity, risky behaviors during pandemic (drugs, homelessness, near-death). Chat and other guests push back.
01:20:00
OnlyFans and Sex Work Debate
Debate between Grace/Allison (critical of sex work's societal impact) and Desiree/Riley (defend personal autonomy). Sheena adds older-generation perspective. Very heated.
01:34:51
Prostitution as Oldest Profession Debate
Discussion on prostitution, marriage-as-transaction, bride prices in Africa, cattle exchange.
01:49:20
Relationship Status Round
Brian asks each guest about current relationship status, time single, longest relationship. Desiree: seeing someone casually. Sheena: seeing someone (3-month rule). Riley: single 1 year (4-yr prior longest). Vic: single 2 years (6-month longest). Shirley: single (no guys). Jennifer: "single but never alone." Allison: single (several months). Grace: single 3 months (2-yr longest).
02:00:53
OnlyFans Platform Experience (Shirley)
Shirley shares she was onboarded by OnlyFans as a journalism/media personality, expecting to teach journalism. Found it was the opposite of what was advertised. Describes accidental exposure to sexual content.
02:02:07
Mental Illness vs. Demon Possession
Allison and Sheena argue mental illness = demon possession. Grace pushes back with schizophrenia/psychosis examples. Riley shares personal experience with schizophrenic brother. Allison yells "Jezebel Antichrist" at Grace; escalates to shouting match.
02:08:00
Racial Preferences in Dating
Grace discusses never dating Asian men (relates to difficult upbringing with traditional Asian parents, healing Asian identity trauma). Shirley teases her dating history (Persian, white rebound, Black ex).
02:19:56
Self-Defense and Men Hitting Women
Prompted by Shirley's viral Jesse Lee Peterson clip on the topic. Around-the-table answers on whether men can strike women in self-defense.
02:31:59
Self-Ratings Round
Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 on looks (can't pick 7). Shirley: 5. Desiree: 4.5. Vic: 5. Riley: 8. Sheena: 6. Grace: 6. Allison not captured clearly. Desiree explains she rated lower because Sheena rated herself 5 and she considers herself Sheena's "slave" so can't rate higher.
03:15:00
Race and Representation Discussion
Riley raises systemic racism in casting of TV shows. Sheena (as Israeli immigrant) counters with observations on US race dynamics vs Israel.
04:30:00
Military Claims / Stolen Valor Controversy
Desiree claims she enlisted in the Army (2009) and was told she could fast-track to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS messages disputing this. Brian reads them. Desiree eventually says she got pregnant and received a discharge before basic training.
04:30:00
Desiree Military Claims Challenged
Sheena calls Desiree a liar re: fast-tracking to combat surgeon. Multiple military viewers send TTS calling it stolen valor. Brian reads messages live.
04:45:00
Age Gap Relationships Debate
Second panel joins. Vic argues age-gap relationships are "worthy of judgment." Discussion on power dynamics and maturity.
06:10:00
Roast Section
Closing roast segment. Audience TTS messages roast each guest. Brian reads them. Desiree is primary target; Grace receives mostly positive comments.
Transcript
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00:56:59
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Brian Atlasprices 10K where did the Bitcoin come from 10K Bitcoin I don't know that world yeah I mean I guess I'll accept eth too
00:57:35
Brian Atlasbut um by okay so back to the Desiree intervention I guess I don't know what's going on but um okay relationship status so
00:57:46
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Desiree I'm your I'm Your Love slave Brian or whatever your B your SL I'm your slave no I'm his bigest fan only by the way this is
00:57:58
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)stage five Clinger stage five Clinger stalker um crazy CLE after your kids I send him unsolicited nudes once in a while I'm my
00:58:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)God ovulating me cannot be held respons by the way I said stop but he didn't block me he didn't block me oh my God are you in a relationship I told him he block about this and I said if he had
00:58:21
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00:58:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)lives matter Brian it's time for to own your
00:58:38
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)sexiness BLM I think it's beard lives matters you don't want you don't want to be invited again huh what I'm an only fans girlan it's not that big of a deal I'm very comfortable with my sexuality
00:58:50
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)it's listen we're trying to fix you here that's why you're bad you need help I do appreciate the feedback about the interrupting I totally agree I
00:59:00
Brian Atlasreally desire your feedback all the feedback I appr it Des uh yeah you and me are not dating oh my God we will never date don't lie you would even if you off pay me I never said we were
00:59:12
Brian Atlasdating even if you offered to pay me money to have sexual intercourse with I wouldn't do it I wouldn't even do it under those circumstances my
00:59:22
SheenaGod you know what honestly I would be your personal assistant for free I be your Apprentice that's right can I just say one thing to you honestly God I feel something here because I I honestly feel
00:59:35
Sheenareally bad for you because I think you've been sexually abused so bad I have I have you're correct by my Father which isid let's your s abused I can let's just not even go there because if you if
00:59:48
Sheenayou weren't I'm not going to say that word but if you weren't because you always wait let me I read my book I don't say anything I can I can see you so clearly you sheer to me I think
00:59:59
Sheenayou've been so much through hell in your childhood and the way you had to kind of understand who you are as the woman right and I think this is your way to come up to the world this is what you
01:00:10
Sheenaoffer all the time and you get accepted by that the best wait a second I'm trying to help you but you're talking listen I'm saying this to you because I really feel bad I swear to God I'm not just saying that to I really doesn't
01:00:21
Sheenalike to keep going on and on shut the up sorry you were interrupting her okay that was that was Grace who pressed that by the way no your fault yeah don't don't take it she pressed no she pressed
01:00:32
Sheenathe button so can I finish my she no you didn't see that she was like oh let me press the go ahead so I really think okay we're laughing at the show everybody you know you send remarks and you know parrot like boom boom boom say
01:00:45
Sheenamore things but between you and me a woman to woman imagine there's nobody here I really think you need to disconnect from the world from social media from everybody I did for about you always have an answer the answer is not
01:00:57
Sheenagoing to help you I'm trying to help you well the answer is the answer wait a second you've been through hell in your life I could see the pain in your eyes I could see so much pain in your face
01:01:09
Sheenaright now that you always have to explain and always have to you know excuse and and say react you have always in a mod of reaction always in a mod of reaction okay and this is hyper
01:01:21
Sheenahyperlight respons you're cutting my thought let me finish so let me just finish my point and I'm done I think you really need to disconnect from everything right from people from
01:01:31
SheenaCannabis from friends from from show you going podcast you need to disconnect from the world the only thing you need to do it's start to peel all the layers like an Ona and figure out who you were
01:01:44
Sheenabefore all these things that happened to you because this is the only time that you can really repair yourself from the inside because if you continue in this Rampage you're going to either do something to yourself
01:01:56
Sheenasomebody going to do something to you or you're going to damage yourself on the media that you could not live with that anymore I wrote a book about my
01:02:05
Sheenajourney you need a Hunny but the feedback not funny it's really really sad got got it it's not even funny all right super sad it's not
01:02:16
Brian Atlasfunny it's so I'm depressed now I can you pop the glasses off it's really sad okay um so Desiree relationship status oh have we finished I'm your slave Brian that's it you need you can't be in a relationship with somebody if they don't
01:02:28
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)want to be in a relationship with you like that they're not going to be reciprocal but you yeah there's no reci relation imag you're my imaginary man
01:02:38
Brian Atlasshe doesn't Rel my imagin a Mitch Hedberg joke Mitch Mitch Hedberg joke about this the dog it's like I you're my dream man you're my dream man my Untouchable I told you in a relationship you need self love how did that you know
01:02:52
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)what's actually you know what's actually crazy is she like didn't you like years ago go to somebody who drew a picture it wasn't years ago it was literally bring up that picture and tell me that this is not freaking
01:03:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)creepy of creep so I was having like one of those Lonely Nights what what was the picture tell us what the picture is it was so freaking embarrassing somebody Dr okay hold let me help you you know those
01:03:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)psychic soulmate sketch artist things that like is but they get you okay you're lonely that's the new dating I can I can get this across in 5 seconds
01:03:24
Brian Atlassomebody drew a picture of your soulmate story told 5 Seconds okay thank you man and so so when was this picture drawn is
01:03:34
Brian AtlasC like may maybe may may of this year like May June before you were on the first show yeah it was like right before right before yeah that picture looked just like me I
01:03:46
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)didn't even put it together until I was connecting that I Wasing on you and I was like what the there is no imprinting there's no you've never been a baby girl you don't know how it's a literal like imprinting on a
01:03:58
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)daddy push baby girl I'm rejecting the imprint it's a kingster thing some of us are kinky we're not all vanilla I'm kinky what it is I think at this point you could not have a Rel conscious and I
01:04:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)understand what's call a trauma Bond then fine a trauma Bond we'll call it a trauma Bond call it tra Bond desire so first off there was zero chance of it ever I'm not trying to be mean but like
01:04:23
Brian Atlasbro you're just a you're too persistent so I got like shut that down there's zero chance okay zero zero zero zero and then there
01:04:35
Brian Atlaswas like a negative it went into the negative when you sent me a story about the last guy you were with what did he do oh my oh that was that was not a relationship I was in that was a consensual Kink Dynamic with a daddy
01:04:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)tell me what happened tell me tell me what happened just just so yeah you can say it's feminism okay goe so the thing is with these
01:04:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)consciously kinky Dynamics basically it's a safe space for people to reenact like their most ridiculous we don't need a preamble we don't need the
01:05:11
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Preble because I want to make the point that it was consensual it wasn't like dangerous make point so this guy's biggest fantasy was that he wanted to
01:05:20
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)hold my head in the toilet and me in the ass and you're like I could never find any woman that was down to reenact that for him toilet water I bleached it first but
01:05:33
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)yeah I did I took it up there so degrading oh my God he was he was gentle he was honestly pretty gentle about it so and like
01:05:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)honestly the cold how I gently humiliate the hell you know there in there know you I get it but I mean is free floating it's on
01:05:52
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)her toothbrush in the bathroom I'm like listen I delivered my last baby alone by myself in my bathroom I am not a normal okay I'm not a germaphobe I'm not squeamish
01:06:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)about have a very like kinky sexuality OB there's a difference between not being a German phone and sticking your head in a toilet I bleached it first the question you bleach then
01:06:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you're you like it h I'm fine right this was months ago I never had any adverse reaction so obviously it's fine okay well that's kind of stuff that you know what's on your kitchen dish
01:06:28
Allisonisoss the excuses are crazy still oh my God that's disgusting and embarrassing I'm not I'm not going to say listen I'm not going to tell you it's disgusting janic donated
01:06:39
TTS/Nick (production)$200 the constant addressing of desire's bad behavior is actually achieving the opposite effect she loves that the entire podcast has become about her just
01:06:49
Brian Atlasignore her okay anyways uh so I'll just say in a a Rel relationship for zero imaginary an imaginary relationship with you okay longest relation longest
01:07:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)relationship that is crazy 25 years my last daddy your daddy my last daddy Dom not my actual father my actual father you guys should see
01:07:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)the actually love to okay um Vic what about you scared single but I guess technically you put friends with benefits as like a category so I guess like friends with benefits we
01:07:26
Brian Atlassay okay I'm a big fan of friends with longest relationship so many in hey who be nice be nice hey be nice to uh be nice to Vic we're learning hey it's okay she's a friends with is it
01:07:37
Sheenamonogamous no be nice to her it'sit it's monog relationship why would you give yourself to a man just so he
01:07:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)can enoy I I enjoy that I like it a lot like that's right I really enjoy them some of us enjoy sex
01:07:59
Brian Atlassome women some women do enjoy sex so wait okay longest relationship 6 months 6 months and was that boyfriend girlfriend or boyfriend yes okay who ended that relationship uh I guess
01:08:11
Brian Atlastechnically he did it was long distance when did when did that end like two years ago and you've been well you said you're a Friends with Benefits um how long have you been single like without friends with
01:08:23
Brian Atlasbenefits or like yeah well I guess you said it was 2 years ago the six-month one ended so you've been single for 2 years yes but you not in a relationship but you've had like friends with benefits or more casual things okay um
01:08:36
Brian Atlasare you just seeing this one friends with benefits or do you have no yeah multiple how many oh my God wait come on come on come on let her let her don't uh
01:08:45
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)she she can judge I mean I juding you you you are judging Let's uh let's withhold judgment for now it's it's everybody has their own like opinions on
01:08:57
Brian Atlashow they or yeah how they want to conduct their lives hey hey come on be nice be nice be nice let them everybody has their own like what they what they want out of life be nice you know just
01:09:09
Brian Atlasuh you know you know be be nice that's why we need the no button Brian be nice be nice okay uh so you said you're currently have a couple friends with benefits
01:09:19
Brian Atlasorientation um my orientation yeah oh straight straight okay how many how many what's what's wrong hold on hold on hold
01:09:28
Brian Atlason hold on uh how many friends with benefits I I mean it what's the roster what's the roster looking like I mean so
01:09:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I have like multiple like long-term friends with benefits but I don't see them like very often cuz they're all in different places cuz I'm a traveler so
01:09:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)yeah um so you know it's not like I see them very often it's a rotation yeah it's like rotation it's like in their
01:09:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)City maybe I'll hit them so how many currently active uh are in the picture I don't
01:10:05
Brian Atlasknow probably I would guess maybe like five or five or six I don't know really like actually think about it yeah and uh wait Shirley going back to you oh god
01:10:18
Brian Atlaswith this new definition of single does it there's no guys in the picture just want to no none okay wait so okay there's like five friends hold on desire you don't got to quip
01:10:29
Brian Atlasevery single time okay so what's the most it's ever been at but oh like at at one time yeah cuz you said right now it's five has it ever been
01:10:39
Brian Atlas7even 10 15 no like no no cuz I feel like you got Riz so you probably like you got well I
01:10:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)can obviously I can pull people you can pull yeah yeah pretty easy easy what do you mean pull people exp prettyy simple it's get people to be interested in you
01:10:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like have them like have sex just for sex have people knowledge carnal knowledge sexual intercourse yeah
01:11:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)obviously um andw call it friend zone I could pull P vaginal oio oio go ahead no I I I feel like like that's a thing like you could
01:11:23
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)pull a lot of people but then it's about like quity of the have you ever um seen two guys in the same like in the 24-hour
01:11:32
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)period no no okay I don't think so no I mean yeah I don't think so they're they're all in different places I'm like I'm very no like even your six-month
01:11:43
Brian Atlasrelationship was it open monogamous very monogamous yes okay and then real quick question for you we I'm sure we can dive a little more into detail a little bit
01:11:51
Brian Atlaslater on but uh so when it comes to you being a your diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder the you self
01:12:02
Brian Atlasidentify as psychopath uh how does this manifest itself in your relationships in relationships So like
01:12:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)um psych like Psychopaths cannot really feel like love or like a true real connection with another person so that's something that I like really really struggle with
01:12:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)trying to have in my life have like real genuine connections with people um cuz it's something that I want to have but it's not something that I really like that just like comes to me so I like try
01:12:35
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)um but with within like my relationships um I think it's been it's it's been hard
01:12:45
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)to sorry I'm don't keep going it's okay I have ADHD so you know no but um I think it's been it's been hard to to like have like have these relationships have
01:12:58
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)longterm obviously my like longest relationship is six months I've never had like a long-term relationship because it's like really difficult to have it when you like aren't feeling like you're in love with anybody you don't know how to have that connection
01:13:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you're really bad at um like reciprocating love things like that um and when you're like trying to figure out it it doesn't really work out so that's why honestly that's why I really enjoy friends of benefits relationships
01:13:22
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)cuz it's like all the benefits of relationship but then I call it a parallel I call it a parallel relationship when you have basically severe attachment traumas sometimes the intensity of a traditional you know face
01:13:34
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Toof face relationship is too much so you have to kind of going to you have to kind of water down your relationships a little bit so you can actually stand it and then you slowly integrate that more and more at a time and pretty soon
01:13:45
Brian Atlasyou'll be able to actually form attachments it's actually very healthy that was beautiful that was deep deep wait so something but uh cuz you said like manipulation so are you
01:13:57
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)manipulating your partners how does it work yeah so like in in like a real relationship like a in a relationship where I'm actually you know committed to somebody um I try
01:14:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)very like very very hard to be conscious of um my behaviors and actions so like my my first relationship I ever had I was really um unconscious of my this is before my diagnosis and um I was like a
01:14:22
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)very toxic person in that relationship and so I did like a ton of like self-reflection and work and stuff so that I could go into my second relationship which was the most recent
01:14:33
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)one um as like a much healthier minded individual um to conduct that relationship in a way that that wasn't um you know manipulative in nature that
01:14:43
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)um wasn't me just like using him um to get what I wanted was I was trying to make it you know a two-way relationship um there were still issues within it I still things to work now are you on
01:14:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)dating apps at all um sometimes yeah how do you typically meet these people online dating apps in person all all of the above I mean all yeah dating apps um
01:15:07
Brian Atlason the streets um through friends I do you disclose pretty early on to Partners that you are a psychopath or no no you don't no I don't I don't like talk I
01:15:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)don't talk about it unless it has to do with like my social media So like um when I made my social media account like nobody nobody in my real life actually except for my best friend actually knew
01:15:28
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)about my diagnosis um and like a lot of people found out like through finding my social media after it went viral and stuff but I I literally like I don't talk about it in real life um with like
01:15:39
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)people in my real life wait so you would not like disclose I I would um I would disclose eventually because I think that's if you're trying
01:15:52
Allisonto have like an authentic relationship you have to be um honest about things but let them go I think I've seen you on Tik Tok have you I think so I think I recognized you yeah sitting in a car
01:16:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)talking about it I do sit in my car a lot and talk about it I just thought that's C can can I sit something I always do my thinking in the car too my best thinking here she goes wait so you
01:16:14
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)won't disclose like you won't no I would I would disclose um with people um especially like if I'm having relation I interrupt once again please no sidebar
01:16:26
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)conversations she didn't say oh she no okay she didn't say oh it looks like there was okay my big hair bothering her so she goes like all right okay go ahead no I would I
01:16:38
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)would disclose it um in in a long-term relationship but uh you know I I've only had one relationship in which that I could have disclosed it I I I never ended up doing that in that relationship wa in your six-month relationship you
01:16:51
Brian Atlasnever told them no so I mean I want to up to the panel honestly I I don't know if I even have a position on this just because this is kind of a rare circumstance but to the panel do you
01:17:02
Brian Atlasthink that there is a duty to disclose to a potential partner if you have like something that could impact the relationship in this
01:17:13
Rileycase like a mental yeah illness or I think you you feel safe to share that yeah I think it's kind of like a thing you should definitely tell them when you date them
01:17:27
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I think it's are you going to be nice though you got to be nice you can't just you can't just be no she can say what she wants to say that's the point of having my disorder is that I I like don't have a lot of emotions so I can
01:17:37
Sheenahave like real conversations with people okay I want to say that I I again I feel really bad and I tell you why because my son is have to date girls from your
01:17:48
Sheenageneration and if all of you are having these issues and opening your body and your soul to so many guys without
01:17:58
Sheenathinking of the outcome in the future because if you have a for example 20 30 50 whatever guys along the road like in 5 years you're going to you know see your body count emotionally because you
01:18:11
Sheenayou started it with emotional problem emotionally you're not going to be young anymore you're not going to have the enthusiasm you have now and when in your 40s and 50s and late 30s you're going to
01:18:23
Sheenabe even more damaged emotionally psychologically physically right because you don't understand that what you're doing to yourself right now it's literally it's like you're taking this cup and put another thing and another
01:18:35
Sheenathing and another thing you're adding more psychologic and emotional damage on yourself instead of Disconnect from men take care of your of your inside of your
01:18:44
Sheenahead instead of sitting and and talking about your mental illness that along the road if you want to meet a nice guy and his mother let's say see that or somebody saw it you say oh don't deal
01:18:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)with her don't mess with her she's cuckoo so you understand the for for talking to me like personally um Lally General I know I know you're talking General but um in this conversation
01:19:07
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)about me personally and then we'll talk General but me personally um like literally the whole point of my disorder is that I don't have that emotional attachment to it want tell my disorder
01:19:20
Sheenathat I don't have emotional attachment it's not true I think you have a lot of emotion okay from what I see I think the only thing that repair you and correct you with this line to yourself constantly it's to get a real love that
01:19:32
Sheenasomebody really love you and caress you you never had real love in your life somebody that been there one second somebody that really love you and protect you okay and tell you it's okay one second it's not the same if you had
01:19:45
Sheenaa man in your life that protect you and wanted you only for himself not to share you with the world not to let you go and and sleep around you think a woman's purpose is for men for one man did you
01:19:57
Sheenajust said do you think do you think a woman's only purpose in life is to be for a man one man yes that's a women's only purpose in life no I don't think it's the only purpose in life but no you don't understand what I'm saying you can
01:20:10
Sheenahave a career you can have kids you can have whatever you want okay but protect yourself women are very vulnerable you know what's the reason that a lot of men wait let me finish this sentence you know why a lot of men laugh at women and
01:20:22
Sheenatreat us like we're idiots they're dick they're not dicks majority of men have to deal with women like this I'm sorry with disrespect but if majority of men today have to choose to have the mother of their children to to build a life
01:20:35
Sheenawith you to build a career with you that you both can build something together for the future you know to have a life with you and he need to deal with somebody that have so many me mental issues and so many body count why would
01:20:46
Sheenathey do it they rather be alone they give a what men think well some of us don't give a course you give a this is your defense mechanism I don't care about men man men are stupid are ID I
01:20:58
Sheenaonly again this listen don't tell me this I can't hear it just a second I can't hear this and I'll tell you why because you put you a mother to Children you're sitting here in the podcast I'm a baby girl I'm a slave I don't want to hear this
01:21:11
Sheenabecause literally you disrespecting your kids that the kids needs to see you in this podcast talking about yourself like that you're a mother before you are for yourself you a mother before you something in this world before your career before you the daughter of your
01:21:24
Sheenaparents you're a mother before anything when you decided when you decided wait when you decided to have children when you decided to have children de to have children listen to me for a second when you decided to be a mother anything I
01:21:37
Sheenadidn't decide to be a mother I was it doesn't matter you open your legs and you popped the baby no I was trafficked it I was it doesn't matter but you have a baby you got raped and have a baby okay it doesn't matter you have a baby it doesn't matter because soon as you
01:21:49
Sheenahave the baby you're not living for yourself you're living for the baby not for yourself your baby and kid is the most important thing you're supposed to protect them love them and protect them it's not put yourself out there and talk about their mother like that because you
01:22:01
Sheenahumiliating them I'm embarrassed as a woman to sit in a table with a woman like you can I say something about can I say something about your bias or your
01:22:11
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)mental state so you're so angry at um American woman for having like this idea these ideas of being so fixated on these ideas of um you know being sexually
01:22:23
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)liberated or whatever and it's not normal hold on no no no hold on hold on wait for the point wait for the point wait for the point no so so you're you have hold on you have all these biases
01:22:36
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you have all these biases and you're really fixated on them right is that not exactly is that not exactly what you're mad at women like her or like her I'm not mad at her because hold on hold on
01:22:48
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)cuz you're saying you're saying all americ you're like all American women is there um I forget what your name is she is sitting right there she's saying they all all these hold on all
01:22:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)these women agree with you you think they're the exception because your bias is that oh all these people think they you have confirmation of she has confirmation
01:23:11
Sheenafirst of all first of all you think they she has said anything it's all confirmation bias first of all I'm not biased I have a better perspective than all of you together you know why wait let me speak wait let me speak you know
01:23:24
Sheenawhy biased let me give you an example I've been over 60 countries I lived in many countries and I speak five languages okay I've been around the world I know what is normal women and I know what is Twisted women Twisted women
01:23:36
Sheenais the one that take medication sit and talk about their illnesses have a big body count with every man that can occupy them she putting herself out there to be a slave and let men and people degrade her and treat her like a
01:23:48
Sheenadmat she's been she's been she's been a doormat she's been literally a slave and somebody that men can degrade sorry and put their sperm on her right and she's
01:23:59
Sheenaproud of it she sits there oh I'm a baby girl you should not be proud of it you should be embarrassed and hide yourself I would be embarrassed to go out to the street if I would talk like that in the
01:24:09
TTS/Nick (production)camera I'm not embarrass me it doesn't embarrass my God janic donated $200 psycho girl IDF chick is exercising what's called righteous judgment she's
01:24:21
TTS/Nick (production)right ontologically a woman's primary purpose is to be a wife/ mother as a man's is husband/father keep wrecking HOAs I I like that perspective because
01:24:33
Allisonit's not like a biased sexist perspective yeah okay that's exactly what I was trying to say when we talked about a woman's purpose absolutely you were only here on Earth to get married be with a man raise his children and
01:24:44
Allisontake care of his household that is your purpose why you're created nothing else not careers not all this other mumbo jumbo it's kid who the raised you
01:24:54
Allisonall people listen Ian clearly I'm more stable than y do you believe you're more stable than us but I don't claim all this mental illness you should have the the right do you believe
01:25:06
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you should have the right to live your life that way no because not your life it's do you believe that you have the right to live your life that way to live your life for a man and to view the world that way is that what you believe I'm trying to see how you're wording
01:25:18
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)this do you think that I have the right like do do you believe that that that's your right to have this belief about the world I just believe that's why we were created everybody other people don't other people don't believe that I said I
01:25:30
Sheenawas an evangelist you believe you're a portal of the universe woman is a portal of the universe you're supposed to bring babies and have a future with your kids that's your opinion just a piggy back off for her I
01:25:43
Allisonunderstand where she's coming from because in other countries America is the only country that has all this like crybabies mental illness this weird feminism stuff baby well I'm just saying like this you go to other
01:25:55
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like they do not talk like this it would be very frowned upon it would actually be what is it called like a disgrace like question exil does the Bible say a woman's purpose is to give birth yeah be fruitful multi except for the outliers
01:26:08
Allisonwhich are the Widow theist unless you're really biblically literate that's not what it says at all she asked about the Bible right I come from the is no longer held accountable to the
01:26:19
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)same wife rules that's not true that's not it's just saying literally true wait a second a Bible scholar I have a master's degree in counseling Ministry H I'm from what you miss you missed the
01:26:31
Allisonmark then if you are a widow how the could you be a wife anymore your husband's dead me speak my hb's dead it doesn't mean you get to go and then sleep with as many men as you want and post naked
01:26:42
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)pictures that is still sexual sin so I'm not allowed to be a sexually mature woman who has you're not allowed if you were to go by the Bible exactly if you were to go by the Bible how you know the Bible what the Bible say away if you
01:26:54
Allisoncan't take care my children no I'm not but then your opinion get a real job it's not that hard it's a real job know how on my literally I don't give a of
01:27:07
Allisonprostitution again are you feeding my headon manif are you feeding my are you doing for my kids Cal down listen you screaming doesn't do
01:27:18
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)I would be terrified to have a mom as you I had a stepmom my kids areed Dragon Mommy manifested a demon you even do you talk to your kids like that do
01:27:30
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you bait you guys this is to feed my kids uh no I'm sorry if do you talk to your children like that do you raise your voice to your kids like that I don't think you understand the
01:27:41
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)psychologic they're like physically AB I'm Sor I don't think you understand the psychological trauma that you're giving them by screaming at them constantly if you yell at them like that I don't scream at them constantly I told you only if they get physically abusive with
01:27:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)me meaning why you scream at me what do you mean physically abusive with you you should never let your kids even touch you remotely like that you should train your kids of course so when they do it I
01:28:05
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)react really strong it's called spare the rod spoil the child it's the thing honey wait till you have kids D my God yeah trust me I didn't have a dad in the house for a while too
01:28:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)so your mom probably had to get nuts on your ass no she didn't my mom is actually the best person ever my mom raised she the you only respect her cuz she put you in your place once in a while otherwise you would have no
01:28:29
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)respect for the woman okay agreed yeah she didn't when you have three kids by yourself you talking most of the shaming of women
01:28:38
TTS/Nick (production)body counts are from other women it's social guys don't give a taking out the competition you can't shame a man in the same way because they don't care
01:28:49
Rileyexactly exactly Che yo thank you Pagan appreciate it thank for the TTS let me let me say something let me say
01:28:57
Rileysomething why is it so valuable to other women to put these pedestals and these rules on what other women are supposed to be doing with their vaginas
01:29:09
Rileywhy do we care so much can I talk can I talk why do we care so much about what somebody else is doing with their Instagram with their only fans why are we minding other people's business let
01:29:20
Rileythem let let them do what they're going to do if affects their kids that's their life the whole society let her finish if
01:29:31
Rileymy mom first of all my father was murdered I was not raised with a dad my whole life I didn't even meet him he died before I was born my mom so sorry about no you don't have to say sorry I
01:29:42
Rileydon't like that my mom raised me a certain way my grandma raised me a certain way they held me accountable a certain way my mom was crazy she was
01:29:53
Rileybatshit crazy I don't want to say you know the word but she as she grew up her and my uncle they were the r word and she was trying to figure it out her
01:30:04
Rileymental health took a crazy ass toll my Grandma had to step in and raise us we literally were abused we were kidnapped for 2 years by a serial killer things
01:30:15
Rileyhappen to people and they don't have the same access to information that you have you might have traveled to 60 countries whoop do but then if somebody's in the Hood living their life just trying to pay their
01:30:28
Rileybills for their children who are you to sit here and tell them what they can and cannot do no no no you're nobody to sit here and tell people what they can and cannot do just because you're 50 and you've lived before everybody else
01:30:40
Rileyhas does not give you the right to sit here and yes she does get on our nerves but to go off on somebody and tell them that they're giving their body away if she wants to 50 men before she figures out her life she should be
01:30:51
Rileyable to you don't have any telling her what she can cannot do can she should talk you've been talking all day let her talk she talk to me well
01:31:01
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)what I say it um wow that just completely never mind I don't even know what I was going to say go ahead go ahead Grace Grace go ahead um the problem is just kidding negative 20000
01:31:14
TTS/Nick (production)donated $200 seriously I'd rather listen to slim barking than listening to these btchs talking nonsense Brian get desire under
01:31:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)control she ain't even wearing bra today oh my God can you tell I forgot my pasty can I respond to what she asked me and told me well let's let Grace go then you can go and then
01:31:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)we'll yeah the problem is it's not it's not any anyone telling other women what to do not saying you should do this you should do this it's just it does affect other women I don't do only fans I don't do that kind of stuff if you do it
01:31:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)whatever but it's also like you guys have to understand what that brings to the rest of the culture the rest of society that means men are able to get that of women whenever they want so when they want an actual Christian whatever
01:32:02
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)kind of woman they want or like we're not about to say Christian okay fine then I'll take thatr the religion out of yeah get this religion4 everybody doesn't have the
01:32:13
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)same religion just you were born a certain way and you believe a women purpose I said one word and I it's not it's not the point you guys don't get the point guys let her finish let her finish you guys's going to respond after
01:32:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)she's done go ahead Dark I'm sorry I just want to say I said Christianity Christian and you guys got so offended by that that's that's that's how I partake can I talk I'm sorry I'm just
01:32:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)saying by you doing only fans or anyone doing only fans it ruins the rest of us women trying to hold you guys aren't going to know how to squirt you're not going to know how to squirt cuz you don't have a mommy teaching shut upit
01:32:50
Brian Atlaswhat does squirting have to do she teaches people squir oh my
01:32:57
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)God for the Youth of America all the stuff that you didn't learn in your public education she's talking to a 19-year-old about this this is 19 girl are you a virgin no I'm not
01:33:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)but you don't have get to talk to me about that when I can I stop can you stop asking me about my sexual life I'm not talking you why does it always have to be sex I don't sex is life Des you
01:33:21
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)got to stop interrupting here girls that's Grace finish her Point hold on Des let Grace finish her Point go ahead Grace my only point is if you continue
01:33:31
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)doing that you ruin What men's vision of women is also so then when so then when us think that
01:33:43
Brian Atlaswe're can someone donate M the just wait just just leave the mic just leave it where it is God damn get your little dog paws off that there the Doug is scared I'm not
01:33:54
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)offended by that all I think it's finish Grace it's just like it ruins the rest of the outside world people who don't go to only fans don't who don't go to porn who don't do who
01:34:06
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)don't do this stuff it ruins the rest let her finish go ahead it ruins the rest of the world that that's perceived our society cuz now everyone is being used to oh I don't
01:34:18
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)need a good woman I can just go off and find whatever I want on there and then it just like it ruins it many times now because she do I want to respond to what she told mey let her speak I just feel
01:34:28
Rileylike that's a very small version of thinking that's true can I finish let her finish let her finish I feel like it's a small version of thinking because you're you're thinking from your
01:34:40
Rileyperspective right you're thinking like okay this is ruining how men treat us but the oldest job in oh my God the oldest job in human society has been
01:34:51
Brian Atlasprostitution literally it's literally true and it's something that a woman always fall back on let's explore let's actually explore this claim that my girl prostitution is
01:35:02
Brian Atlasthe oldest profession how did how so what was the job of the guy who paid the prostitute fisher maybe Fisher's the oldest probably Fisherman's the oldest
01:35:14
Rileyprofession say I would say Manning Manning for women doing man for women was prostitution it was marrying a rich husband and having his well if you say that there's a difference between a prostitute and
01:35:26
Rileymared a man that is a form of prostitution you don't love him can I can I talk marrying back in the day was the
01:35:34
Rileycurrency in Africa like in Zimbabwe my friend told me his family would pay another family so that they can get married you had to come to the family
01:35:45
Brian Atlaswith cattle you had to come to the family with some kind of before you you are so right we got to bring it back I will only date a woman who brings 10
01:35:54
Brian Atlassheep if a woman does not bring 10 gck Rel it's over Farm Brian I had bring bring a
01:36:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)tractor 10 sheep a dozen cows titties
01:36:14
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)ass I have a question for this of the table yes so I want to respond hold yourselves to like a really high standard right like you modesty yeah yeah you hold yourself to a really high
01:36:25
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)standard right you guys are very modest moral women correct so why do you care about men who don't have that hold themselves to that same ability why do you why do you care why do you care
01:36:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)about men who fall victim to women who do only fans when they're not holding themselves to the same moral standard that you are you don't those men don't deserve you those men don't deserve you why do you why do you want
01:36:48
Allisonthem I want to ask so I would kind of give it just an example and it's not as extreme but it does uh trickle down look at like the Kardashians and what they've done to our generation and how people
01:36:59
Allisonthe body dysmorphy and all that when you add in pornography boys when they're young and stuff they are finding pornography a lot younger and pornography is ruining relationships you can laugh actually don't I'm just
01:37:10
Allisontelling y'all right now y'all are going to be sick when that Sky breaks open and Jesus is coming back and Revelation no I'm tell y'all are going to be sick for real walk out here
01:37:23
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like the reason I stopped being Christian I went to a Christian High School my whole life and was literally Ault the you want sin on Earth I'm not I'm
01:37:34
Allisonnot saying I don't that's not what I said see you twisted I want to respond cuz no one would let me okay okay so it's kind of like um Kylie Jenner look at what it's done to body dysmorphia someone's jealous damn let her talk
01:37:46
Allisonthat's not what I'm saying jealous yeah no no no just let it talk look at what it's done to young girls and how they view themselves that's kind of the example that I would like relate to with the pornography and
01:37:58
Allisonall the over sexualization and multiple partners and situationships where back in the day you know our parents they'd get married they'd stay married people don't stay married anymore it is affecting our society what if you don't
01:38:10
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)meet your man I want I want to say something you said I to but I'm just I'm just saying that's how it you didn't find a husband in a reasonable amount of time like what the is this a I want to respond to
01:38:21
Sheenaspy Riley I want to respond to Riley okay first of all my dad was sitting in jail for murder I grew up in a worst ghetto that you can imagine in the Middle East is the most dangerous place that you can imagine so because she said
01:38:34
Sheenashe said oh you grow you travel 50 I'm not a privilege okay I did everything on my own so that's first second thing when you say oh let everybody do what they want what she said that it's affecting
01:38:46
Sheenawomen's when I tried to go on dates okay and I look young to my age I cannot date guys because they think I'm an only fan I I'm a privileged I'm a gold digger I want a Chanel bag I want this when I
01:38:58
Sheenatell them I don't have I'm not going bless you to to the bed until it's a serious serious relationship they said what are you a 20-year old I can get a 20-year-old I don't need you you you
01:39:08
Sheenaunderstand wait let me finish let me finish my point is okay they askes women if you don't value your body you're a beautiful young woman you have a great voice you come from a from a difficult place and you made something out of
01:39:21
Sheenayourself and I'm sure you're going to be a big star right if you don't take your body and treat it like a temple that you H uh respect yourself and value yourself not just because you have a chemistry
01:39:33
Sheenayou're going to go in with someone too bad okay because chemistry it's not everything you can have chemistry with a 100 guys the most important thing is to you know say this guy is not good this guy is not good for that you know to find that guy that literally going to
01:39:46
Sheenaprotect you provide to you treat you like what if you can't wait a second if you I'll explain I'll explain that too if you're going to have this wait if you I'm not if you're going to have wait if
01:39:57
Sheenayou're going to have conversations like that in front of men right more you're going to have conversations like this is front in front of men that men going to know how you speaking about your mental and mental health men going to stay away
01:40:10
Sheenabecause men doesn't want to deal with drama men want to come home in the end of the day they don't want to hear you nagging they don't want you to be lazy they don't want to hear all goes against your claim about how a let finish let
01:40:21
Sheenaher finish it doesn't go against my claim a woman could be strong could have a career right and she doesn't have to be a doormat or a slave she could be strong she could have a career she could
01:40:32
Sheenabe amazing respect herself and have crazy dirty sex in the bedroom with her men not with every other guy you understand because the problem sorry the problem here that they think if they have a chemistry with that man they'll
01:40:44
Sheenagive him everything no you can have all the sex you want and it could be a dirty as a get but it have to be with man one man that respect you and protect you not with every random guy like she said I feel sorry for her she if she was my
01:40:56
Sheenadaughter I would never let her do that if God forbid in my son dat somebody like you or like you sorry without being disrespectful I would I would not speak with them anymore I I agree sorry next
01:41:07
Sheenabut I I totally agree because no no no I totally agree that that's your standard that's your standard I would be embarrassed if you would have to be my Shabbat dinner and and you would speak
01:41:19
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like that I would dis all my son hold on this is your stand for for women that your son would date and you're allowed to have that standard no no no and there are women
01:41:30
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)out there that meet that standard stupid no no all these what do you think all of them are stupid do they not meet standard they're not stupid think like they're women sitting next to you think like you I'm not looking for a
01:41:42
Sheenaman like your son and I'm not looking for people like looking for people who are you know that that high standard man will never date you that's why you're not looking for them high standard man want a woman like this they don't want woman like this I'm sorry you want to
01:41:55
Sheenahear the truth in so why are you single then I'm not single I'm just not putting my relationship out there I don't want people to know my relationship I never put my relationship online because I don't want people to know nothing about relationship here I was married for 11
01:42:07
Sheenayears by the way in order okay was married for 11 years yes did how did that end how did that end I don't want to pry if it was like no it was it's personal it this is end it ends but we are really good friends and everything
01:42:20
Sheenait was in the Middle East doesn't matter but I still respect him I'm friend with his wife I don't have I still respect my ex but I'm saying if you ever want to have kids and you want to have a healthy relationship I don't want kids you need
01:42:32
Sheenayou know that now but when you be 50 or 40 sitting alone in your bedroom petting your dog and say baby baby baby you're going to be so sorry or you want you you don't want to be like her
01:42:43
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)having kids and being a mental a hypocrite he has his phone out it went off it's not even on silent shut up you don't want to you don't want to compare yourself to her you are comparing my point my point is
01:42:57
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you're comparing yourself to her when she's gotting online and embarrassing the hell out you want a certain type of man why are you so angry when men who don't meet your standards don't meet
01:43:07
Sheenayour standards it's not about men not meeting my standard oh my God so no it's not about that look at Brian for a second he's sitting there if he have to choose from all the women here he's barely have a decision to to choose
01:43:19
Sheenabecause most women are mentally ill you don't understand
01:43:26
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)why know interesting observ mon can only go on for 30 seconds we got guys watching this you went two hours and show your
01:43:37
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)but you feel you feel very proud of you they feel very proud of you cuz you think every man you had they like they like you so much they don't want nothing you hold wait you said you're you are
01:43:48
Morganhotter than Sheena yeah yo chat if you had pick one
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Morgandesire come on Des so it's desire you love or Sheena I'm saying Sheena sh she
01:44:04
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)Desiree how tall are you 411 damn I'm 5'6 okay uh we got Sheena versus Desiree so just type Shea or desire in the chat about cup size SI waight are we doing
01:44:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)the whole honestly I'm not even in a competition she she she could be hotter than me every yep she could be hotter than me I mean I know I have a lot more volue than
01:44:28
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)just my body those are your men are those the type the ones that are watching this podc I'm dating only high value men do you not think the people that watch this podcast are high value
01:44:38
Brian Atlasmen do you I don't know them I'm sure it's a high look all the men I'm sure these like how I think they're high got open not yet not yet
01:44:49
TTS/Nick (production)Nick I'm opening up to the whole $100 just same what is that what does that mean okay all right can you pull the
01:45:00
Brian Atlaschat coms cuz I got to read these I'm trying to learn the vernacular of the youth can we pull up like Urban Dictionary pull the twitch window up
01:45:11
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)move the chat to the twitch window kick Des does that make sense I'm not in competition it can be how
01:45:21
TTS/Nick (production)we sees the pag donated $200 Shea of course beautiful and gets the fact when I get home I just want peace okay hide the twitch chat that's
01:45:32
Brian Atlasnot what I'm talking about okay okay what oh my God you almost okay you got to go to Twitch and then that popup that you had the YouTube pop
01:45:43
Brian Atlasout chat you got to put it on the screen does that Mak sense so you drag that over show us the twitch guys twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow can you make
01:45:53
Brian Atlasit bigger yeah okay guys I'm asking one more time Sheena or Desiree cuz Desiree said well I'm hotter than you okay so who' you
01:46:04
Morganpick Sheena or Desiree Who's hotter Who's hotter I don't care too big probably a little too big you're winning girl okay just in the chat Sheena or desire I had one I had one saying
01:46:16
Brian Atlasthere's a chance she's bro I'm seeing a lot of Sheena I think you're spelling you're you guys are her name up but it's it's okay but we know if it's
01:46:24
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)an S just type in s yeah okay land I'm obviously Del I my mental illness what can I while we're here while we're here
01:46:34
Brian Atlasmove the chat guys go to Twitch my narcissist go to twitch.tv whatever twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one right right
01:46:45
Brian Atlastwitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one guys guys it's been a minute since we last got a prime but it probably got rebug can you guys just like test out the twitch Prime see if it's like working boys I think
01:46:56
Brian Atlasit's got rebug but yeah drop us a follow guys appreciate it okay uh that was that was interesting um we got we got to get through the relationship yeah I know trying we
01:47:08
Brian Atlasdidn't need so friends with them what about and by the way are you involved in sex work or no cuz you came like to the defense
01:47:19
Rileyious if you were like do you have only fans she's very free stripping I'm no none of those things e no she just a singer what do you want sing I I'm too first of all I'm too shy to be a sex
01:47:31
Rileyworker um but I just there's a certain type of personality you have to have to be a sex worker so I just feel like a lot of sex workers come from very
01:47:41
Rileydecorated backgrounds and I advocate really hard for that I just feel like I can't say what I want to say on here obviously cuz we'll demonetize but I
01:47:51
Rileyjust feel like a lot of women especially um before they're like even 15 are exposed to experiences that they aren't
01:48:02
Rileynecessarily blanketed there's no real care for when it happens to them and a lot of times there's a lot of victim shaming and a lot of women do it to each other where it's like oh she's a
01:48:14
Rileyand she's a this and and you don't even know where she's coming from she might just be coming from being our word and she's trying figure out relationship status are you in uh are you in a
01:48:26
Rileyrelationship no I'm not I'm single I'm just dating how long have you been single for um for a year one year okay longest relationship uh my longest relationship was four years four years
01:48:36
Rileyever married any kids no kids never married okay what about you single into the mic oh mic sorry sorry sorry sorry single how long you been single for 7
01:48:47
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)months 7 months longest relationship 2 years was that the one that ended 7even months ago yeah uh why did he dump you oh why can't it be I dumped
01:49:01
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)him whatever but no I I yeah I dumped him why is that cuz he didn't want to do long distance were you long distance for
01:49:12
Morganthe entire two years no we well it's cuz I'm leaving in like the end of the month to Spain so we just broke up like whatever okay whatever uh what about you
01:49:25
Sheenarelationship status yeah I'm seeing someone but because I don't go to bed until it's super super serious so I don't know how to phrase it uh I have
01:49:34
Sheenalike the three months rule before I know it's real damn and I never post my uh I never post my relationships online I never write about it because I think it's something private and also I don't
01:49:46
Sheenawant to have a track record let's say if I dated someone and then it didn't work because it could happen I don't want to have all my you know every time it's a new guy I post it and talk about it sure
01:49:57
Sheenayou so kind of seeing somebody were you in this seeing this guy the last time you were on the show or this is new no I know this guy for many years and we start talking and you know if he's got
01:50:08
Sheenapatience maybe maybe he'll win me okay and longest relationship 11 years you're married correct and you have kids I have a 21-year-old son I CH a mil all right
01:50:20
Sheenaand I never bring guys to the house as well because I have a man in the house so I'm not bringing absolutely no men for a romantic reason to my house at home yeah I don't want him to what's wrong with that I think it's good who's going to take care of him better than
01:50:33
Sheenahis mama you're going to save it's it's better that your family is you surrounded by Family you save money together you build businesses together my son and I have a business together so you already have a husband what do you
01:50:44
Sheenamean your son what do you mean he's basically your stand-in husband he's not my husband my son is absolutely you just described a partnership ad partnership descri partner for business I teach him
01:50:56
Sheenahow to go on bus is like you make him as listen my mind my mind is not twisted like yours that everything I see from a glasses of sexual activity so please don't phrase that to me I have a very
01:51:07
Sheenavery healthy relationship with my son and we're absolutely not in this road okay I don't talk to my son about it he's got his private life and I build him his own house in my backyard so this
01:51:18
Sheenais absolutely not that kind of relationship can I can you adopt me you build me a house I I'll tuck in my only pans I don't need I don't need woman that talk like that I have one stalker that driving me nuts I don't need
01:51:30
Sheenaanother your experience Brian might need some emotional support from you to deal with me emotional support I can refer you to a good psychiatr Brian cuz I'm his stalker oh I don't think he's got patient for this
01:51:45
Brian Atlasokay uh right uh what about you me I'm single all right how long you been single for been two years two years
01:51:53
Brian Atlaslongest relationship three three years okay and uh why did uh the three year one did is that the one that ended two years ago yes you said you've been single for two years are there's no guys
01:52:06
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)in the picture right now well I would say I would say I thought I was single there's a crazy story about this I I didn't believe about Witchcraft and stuff like that but a dude did witch gra
01:52:17
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)on me which I ended up dating with him when I DPed him I dumped him many times and I can tell
01:52:26
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)you I cannot remember most of it and then once I started like having fre dreams and stuff like that he drugged you that's crazy I mean it sounds like he drugged you with something give you
01:52:38
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)like no which graph is not draw so you're sure he didn't like rof you or something I don't think so no no no no no I just like stream all the time well you're you're explaining likeing
01:52:49
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)out no definitely not no definitely not I'm not that stupid but um uh definitely is something where I
01:52:59
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)realized that you know what I need self love I don't need this I need to get away you know like just from people that really really wants to make
01:53:09
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)things their own way mhm because it's it's just the a lot you know it's not necessary to have a man yeah well in your pre-show notes you
01:53:19
Mixed guests (Shirley/Desiree/Vic/Grace/Jennifer/Maddie)said you're single but never alone yeah what does that mean uh if I need to please my um desires I'll do which is if I want to have sex if I want to feel h i