HEATED Debate With Woke Girls?! CAT FIGHT?! Brian TILTED?! BASED Russians! | Dating Talk 279
Date: 2026-01-26
Duration: 7h 49m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_03Bella (Chipotle)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Cheva(guest)
SPEAKER_05Serenity(guest)
SPEAKER_07Lisa (Utah)(guest)
SPEAKER_08Amy(guest)
SPEAKER_09Diana (Russia)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Taz(guest)
SPEAKER_12Holly(guest)
SPEAKER_13Summer(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:18
IntroAll 10 guests introduce themselves
00:43:03
Key MomentDiana hesitates on US vs Russia allegiance. Brian reads naturalization oath.
00:54:58
ControversySummer vs Amy: UK grooming gangs, immigration, Palestine
02:03:06
QuoteAmy presents feminism as CIA-funded communist project to double labor pool
02:16:42
Key MomentSerenity's ex was DL gay - found DMs with trans woman while on birth control
03:39:02
Key MomentBella sings Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black' live, wins pizza
03:58:44
ControversyDiana: wants more white people, whites 'going extinct'
Topics Discussed
00:00:18
Guest Introductions
10 guests including 2 international (Scotland, Australia)
00:41:51
Allegiance Debate
Diana hesitates on US vs Russia. Amy: 'America first 100%.'
00:54:58
Immigration/Grooming Gang Debate
Summer vs Amy on UK grooming gangs and immigration.
02:03:06
Feminism History
Amy presents feminism as communist/Marxist/Satanist project.
02:52:12
Self-Ratings
Guests rate themselves. Serenity wants $2-5M/yr husband income.
03:39:02
Bella Sings Amy Winehouse
Bella performs 'Back to Black' a cappella to applause.
03:58:44
White Population Decline
Diana wants more white people. Amy supports.
06:56:30
Summer Catholic vs Porn
Brian challenges Summer for being Catholic while doing porn.
07:48:28
Show Wrap
~8 hour show.
Transcript
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01:58:50
Brian Atlas>> and she was >> well you really have it correct. So this is a very unique scenario but there were
01:58:58
Brian Atlasallegations that uh he was into he had a very peculiar kink allegedly some sort of cannibalistic kink.
01:59:10
Brian Atlas>> No it's >> so he he liked to like Yes. This is act I'm familiar with army hammer. I'm very
01:59:17
Brian Atlasfamiliar with this. So he uh allegedly there was he had this cannibalism kink. Allegedly. I don't know the truth of it.
01:59:28
Brian AtlasIf you're having consensual kink fetish interactions with people, I don't know. He did lose his pretty successful career though.
01:59:38
Diana (Russia)>> Yeah. But what about Johnny Depp and his Ember Herd? Yeah. like she there's lots of stories like that where men choose younger women and she's
01:59:48
Diana (Russia)destroy his career >> and I mean I guess it depends on person because we all know this examples when >> well these women have a lot to gain by doing that as well if you're a man with
01:59:59
Brian Atlasnotoriety then you have a lot to gain by making these um allegations as well. Yeah, just to be clear, younger women can do this, too. But I think that at least in my experience, and I've, you know, dated
02:00:12
Brian Atlasdifferent, you know, I've dated younger, older, all all this stuff. Um, my experience has been that it's been the older the the older women
02:00:23
Brian Atlas>> uh who their optionality when it comes to dating is in the decline. >> They're the ones who get really bent out of shape when things end. And I think
02:00:33
Brian Atlasyou know the over time people can get jaded and can get like when you're toxic that [ __ ] gets worse as you age. So like
02:00:42
Brian Atlasif you're toxic at 18 like I don't know. I think also younger women have so many options. It's like she gets rejected by a guy. Okay.
02:00:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> I got I got a hundred dudes in my DMs. I got an NFL player in my DMs. I got Drake in my DMs. Okay. you rejected me, college guy, whatever. I don't give a [ __ ] Like, that's how women who are
02:01:06
Diana (Russia)attractive and young operate. Like, they just have abundance. They don't care. Oops. >> Maybe the problem that you're dating American women, maybe you should try to date like Russian. Russian. >> Well, actually,
02:01:17
Diana (Russia)>> Andrew Tate say remember Andrew since you're watching like Andrew Tate said what? Slavic women. >> Uh, yeah. I mean, I would say that in terms of like being more feminine.
02:01:29
Brian AtlasI would say in terms of being more feminine, Eastern European women, I guess this would encompass Russian women. Uh, As Asian women and Latin
02:01:39
Brian AtlasAmerican women, uh, definitely have more of the positive traits that men care about versus American women. American women are very masculine. They're full-on boss babes. They've taken the
02:01:50
Brian Atlasthey've taken the propaganda. Y'all want to be uh, career boss babe women. You guys don't want any Well,
02:02:00
Brian Atlasyou want tra men to be traditional. You want men to be like it's the 1950s while you women want [ __ ] to be 2026 for what
02:02:10
Brian Atlasyou can do. Y'all want to keep the benefits of modernity for women, but you definitely like the men to be provider, protector, chivalous, all that
02:02:21
Brian Atlas[ __ ] You love that [ __ ] Even if you're a liberal feminist equality woman, you want the guy to pay for you guys. >> Not very fair. Anyways,
02:02:31
Diana (Russia)>> and also uh the government here are protecting women. So men get I would say suppress a lot because uh women can divorce him. Took everything he has he gain. >> Mhm.
02:02:45
Diana (Russia)>> And um >> that's crazy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like that's what I'm trying to say. um his house, money, everything and even
02:02:55
Diana (Russia)>> accuse him like he was abusive or something like that and um >> and never true and he could never talk to his kids again. >> Thanks feminism. >> Yeah.
02:03:06
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Feminism has done a number on women. >> What do you guys know? Who's going around the table? Thanks for mentioning [laughter] that bringing that up. Amy, who hears a feminist going around the table? >> Yeah.
02:03:19
SPEAKER_02>> Yes. Yes. Say yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I would say it. >> Can I get a quick definition? >> That means you think >> cuz if if you think if >> you should be equal, everyone should be
02:03:30
Bella (Chipotle)equal. >> I don't think that's >> I just think feminism described feminism more about how it's women thinking that they are better than men. >> Yeah, I don't believe that. >> I don't think that's >> I think that's the
02:03:42
Serenity>> if that's what if that's what like the darkism feminism nowadays. That's not the >> I feel like the modern day what has been described >> in the past years has changed a lot from
02:03:54
Amyhow it started. >> Yeah. I feel like it's tweaked. >> There's been waves of feminism, but they're all bad in my opinion. Like the second wave of feminism was set up by this woman um who really advocated for
02:04:06
Amyit. Her name is Kate Malay. Um I think she was French um but she was a communist and Marxist and uh Satanist I believe as well. And um they intentionally basically set it up well
02:04:18
Amynumber one the government set it up so they could tax both men and women. It was about a money thing number one. Uh but the second wave is where the propaganda really began and started I
02:04:29
Amyguess what we would call the woke mind virus where yes women now believe that they are superior to men >> or like like Brian said they want a man who is chivalous. They want a man who,
02:04:40
Amyyou know, operates like it was the 1950s, whereas they want to be the 2026 version where they can have all of the options. They can be a boss babe. Um, yeah, that's
02:04:52
Taz>> I think men and women should just vibe. >> Me, that is such a mood. Men and women should just vibe. >> I think the definition [laughter] as
02:05:03
Lisa (Utah)like sor are equal, isn't it? feminism is a definition, but realistically they seek out supremacy because they want >> to just be able to do whatever the hell they want to do, >> but they still expect men to fit this
02:05:16
Lisa (Utah)certain standard. Yeah. >> Um, a lot of women like I get a lot of [ __ ] from people for being a stay at home mom. Like my husband must be some doineering [ __ ] when in the grand scheme of things he allows me to stay
02:05:28
Lisa (Utah)home and take care of our family, >> which is something else that feminism has also completely destroyed is just like >> a strong family. >> Destroyed it. I think it's just given people the >> I spend a lot of time at schools and I
02:05:41
Lisa (Utah)can tell you there's kids that are having a really hard time especially when you take a mom out of the the mix of things. Mike, >> sorry. Sorry. >> Just just make the fix, please.
02:05:50
Lisa (Utah)>> Um, when you take a mom out of the household and you make her work and you exhaust her, now she's at the point like there's a whole bunch of things. My biggest thing is I enjoy making food for my family from scratch. Now, all these
02:06:03
Lisa (Utah)foods are processed and have all these extra ingredients, all these chemicals that we're pumping into these children's bodies and it's causing ADHD issues and other problems to do with feminism. Because feminism took women out of the
02:06:15
Lisa (Utah)home and told them that they belong in the workforce and not just gave you a choice. >> No, but now it's like give them the option though because they expect you to be masculine. Like you get looked down on.
02:06:27
Serenity>> If a woman stays home, that it's like a look down. It's not like oh good for you, good for your husband. >> I I used I guess like this is eye opening now, but I used to think that when women stay home, >> that's a privilege.
02:06:39
Serenity>> Yeah. They're taking care of their children. They are being prominent in the children's lives. Like if you >> Well, a lot of women are fighting that can work. Not that we have to. >> But if you speak to like
02:06:51
Lisa (Utah)>> I speak to a lot of people every time. >> Well, I'm just saying like I as in my life I speak to a lot of people. >> I think it's narrow-minded people that are like saying, you know, like being a stay at home mom is nothing because
02:07:04
Brian Atlasthat's a lot of work. >> Each kid is a full-time job. >> It's a job in itself. I was a nanny. I was in need for a lot of moms who had a lot of kids. >> What kind of dynamics do you both want? I mean, do you want to get married? Do you want to have kids? >> Yes. >> Yes. If I had
02:07:17
Bella (Chipotle)>> I thought you didn't want kids. >> Uh, no. >> Last time, didn't you say you don't want kids? >> Yeah. >> Wasn't [laughter] that I'm getting baby I'm I'm 18. I'm not thinking about kids.
02:07:27
Bella (Chipotle)>> This is something I'm sorry. I really want to say this. If I marry someone who is like has enough money that I can just stay home and take care of these hypothetical children, that would be a privilege. That would be great. >> Yes. >> Yeah, it is a
02:07:40
Brian Atlas>> I'm not saying that's I'm not like actively seeking out still work. >> But let's say do you have any career ambitions? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, but you remember would you give up your career >> singing?
02:07:51
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> To have kids. Well, you said if you meet this guy who makes good money enough for that you >> if if I was successful in my singing career absolutely not. But if it was
02:08:02
Bella (Chipotle)some other career probably >> wait if you were successful in your singing career. >> Yep. I would never give it up. >> You wouldn't give it up >> ever. [laughter] >> Okay. But let's assume the singing job. I'd get rid of it.
02:08:14
Brian Atlas>> Let's assume the singing thing doesn't work out. You have whatever your fallback career is, whatever you're studying in college. Okay. >> Uh, would you give that up assuming the guy made enough money? Okay. What about you? >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay.
02:08:27
Serenity>> Hell yeah. >> If I Well, okay. So, like what you're saying, like if I had a career that I'm doing really good and I'm doing better than my husband in, >> then being Yeah. I would keep my job and he
02:08:39
Serenitywill I feel like the role should be like equal. Like if somebody is making money money and providing for the household then other person is taking care of >> but if I get really successful in my singing career then my husband can stay home and take care of
02:08:51
Lisa (Utah)>> but it's not the husband's job normally to raise the kids. >> That's where feminism comes in. >> There is no job or role. So that's what you're against the kids >> and it nature as well.
02:09:03
Lisa (Utah)>> Men get depressed when they stay home. Like you can look at the statistics, but men get much more depression from staying at home with kids than women because that's not their main driving force as a male. >> Women are emotional. They like to give
02:09:14
Bella (Chipotle)>> who's going to breast breastfeed the kids. The babies, right? [laughter] >> But I think this is also like statistically observable. I mean, you might breast for a reason. >> Also, I'm not necessarily talking about infants. I think that both parents
02:09:28
Diana (Russia)should be as present as they can for like the baby part. like you know present doesn't mean but when they're like old enough to like >> a baby depends on the mom like for at least 5 years I would say >> not being a stay-at-home mom doesn't mean you're absent all the time you're just going to work and then you're
02:09:41
Serenitycoming home and got the weekend but your husband that's what I've done like you can't replace your job how to yeah even if you're working like nurturing and they carry that trait in them so yes the
02:09:52
Serenitymother like stays home >> with the child but if the father or if the husband isn't providing ing money to keep that house, the roof over their head. Who's going to step in and make the money?
02:10:05
Diana (Russia)>> Well, why you marry then? If you're going to provide, why you get pregnant with him if >> So, you marry a man based on how much money he's making. >> No, but he should be able to protect. >> You should see the potential. You should
02:10:15
Diana (Russia)see his actions and if he's responsible, >> if he's going to make when I married my uh when I married my ex-husband, uh he didn't make a lot of money at all. Like, he was in the military. I don't know how much money he could make. Well, you just
02:10:28
Diana (Russia)contradicted yourself. >> You need a man with a drive. >> You said why would you get with a man that doesn't have money, but you got a man? >> No, not money. I said actions and how he treat >> potential. Yes. Treat me.
02:10:40
Amy>> I'm talking about money. >> I see I see what he's doing like how he's responsible with everything and also with money. So, um, Brian, you can maybe look up the statistic, but, um,
02:10:51
Amycurrently as it stands, I think it's less than 70% of people in the United States are married and own a home now. And this used to be the basis of the American dream. And it's because of the
02:11:04
Amyinversion of the gender roles because women are masculine and it they therefore emasculate their man. They they're not getting married. They're not owning homes. This was again the foundation of the American dream and it just doesn't exist for the majority
02:11:17
Amyof people anymore. And I personally believe that feminism is to blame for that. >> This is true. >> Yeah. I mean, look, I think uh
02:11:26
Brian Atlasto Amy's point, uh in terms of the man being able to be the provider when we basically said, "Okay, well, we're going to do away with this." And look, I'm not saying women shouldn't have had the
02:11:38
Brian Atlasability to work, but perhaps an unintended consequence of just completely unlimited feminism when you double the labor pool. So prior, look, by the way, women were able to work.
02:11:51
Brian AtlasThere wasn't some like law pass like women are completely barred from working. Women have been employed for centuries. Women have been involved in work to some capacity. But you also have to remember that there weren't air
02:12:03
Brian Atlasconditioned office jobs 200, 300, 400 years ago. The majority of work that was available was work that was just >> men >> physically impossible or really really
02:12:15
Brian Atlasdifficult for women to do. Men are stronger than women. And if you go back 300, 400, 500 years, there wasn't like uh [ __ ]
02:12:25
Brian Atlasaccount manager at Facebook. There was >> you need to move that barrel of hay over there. You need to build this. Like there weren't all these jobs that you
02:12:38
Brian Atlasknow. So feminism and women's access to the workforce really is can only really exist in a world where you have air conditioned office jobs. Um
02:12:50
Brian Atlas>> right. >> And so that's a really modern uh invention. But basically, when you double the labor pool, uh there's other factors at play. If you double the labor pool, that's going to drive wages down.
02:13:00
Brian AtlasIt used to be the case you could uh raise a family on one income. Now, again, I'm not saying, hey, we women, you know, I think women should should have the right to work. However, an
02:13:12
Brian Atlasunintended consequence of feminism is you double the labor pool, drives wages down. Corporations [ __ ] love it. Corporations love it. They have to pay their workers less. and um
02:13:24
Brian Atlas>> taxes. >> And now in a lot of fields, women are completely outperforming men. Women are going to college way more. They're getting more degrees. Uh women actually own more houses. Women are uh than men
02:13:36
Brian Atlasdo. Women are more likely to be homeowners, especially younger women. You know, women in their 20s, 30s. Uh the proportion of women who own houses is far higher in this age demographic.
02:13:46
Brian AtlasSo, you've seen a complete inversion of some of these roles. And now, uh, you know, you say it's about choice. I actually think you've taken the choice.
02:13:57
Brian AtlasYou've taken the choice away from women who want to be stay-at-home moms because it's so difficult now for men to actually be the bread winner or to be in a financially or economically or
02:14:09
Brian Atlaseconomic position to actually be able to support the family on one income. It's it's very difficult. Some men can do it, but most men can't. You've you've by doubling the labor pool, you've opened
02:14:21
Brian Atlasit up, wages down, whole bunch of other whole bunch. It's I don't want to make it too black or white. There's a bunch of reasons why uh you know, the economy is completely [ __ ] and you know, you can't support a family on one income. But yeah, it's uh
02:14:34
Bella (Chipotle)>> that feels like an economic problem, not a >> a feminist, >> not a men and women problem. >> It's not strictly due to that, but it's
02:14:45
Brian Atlasjust an economic reality. um if you double the labor pool uh women start making money, women are competing against men for jobs. Men, it's it's
02:14:54
Brian Atlasfunny because on one on one hand it's uh women on the macro scale, so external to
02:15:03
Brian Atlasthem, women want equality in society. But in your private relationships, uh not all women, but a lot of women
02:15:12
Brian Atlassay, "Oh, I want uh equality in the world, but in my private relationship, I want or desire the guy to make more money." Well, you need to foster a landscape in a society which would
02:15:24
Brian Atlasactually enable that kind of dynamic. And if you have women out in the workforce, it does necessitate uh a lack of a lack of ability for ma men to be providers.
02:15:37
Amy>> True. There's also the component of birth control as well. I mean, that was a huge element of feminism too to prevent women from having children because they're able to be boss babes and pursue their career. But there's the chemical thing as well. Did you guys
02:15:49
Amyknow that women who take birth control because of the chemical imbalance it creates in your brain or restructuring probably not imbalance is the right word they're more attracted to like feminine liberalized men actually and then when
02:16:01
Amythey get off the birth control they start being attracted to more traditional masculine men. It's very interesting birth control. I've been on and off birth control for a very long time and I wouldn't I wouldn't agree with that.
02:16:15
Serenity>> Wait wait wait wait hold on. [laughter] You dated a gay guy. How did I know he was gay? >> Maybe if he control
02:16:26
SerenityI could actually see that because listen to this. I was on birth control right when I started dating him. When I still was actually liked him, he wanted me to go off birth control because of whatever
02:16:37
Serenitycertain reasons. I don't even [ __ ] know. But as I was off birth control, I become unattracted to him. >> I told you. >> And then I go back on birth control. heard my point. >> Would I go back on birth control though?
02:16:48
Diana (Russia)>> Not my not my type. >> No, let me ask you this. Why women >> take birth controls? What's the point? >> So they don't have babies. >> I've got an IUD cuz I >> But it plays with your plays with your hormones.
02:17:01
Serenity>> And so she doesn't get pregnant. >> No, a condom does not guarantee. And only one protection does not guarantee you're not going to get pregnant. No, but that's why I'm saying >> also periods. It does help a lot with
02:17:11
Diana (Russia)>> Let me tell you this. you have avelation maybe like six five days a month. >> It's not most >> you don't have to no you you can get pregnant only. Oh yeah, if you you should study your
02:17:23
Diana (Russia)fertility or read books about it. You don't have to vaginal sex during these days and you don't have to take a synthetic. >> But when you're so busy like school, work, schedule, schedule, job, everything.
02:17:35
Diana (Russia)>> It's also inside you when you're >> populated. What about check your fertility? I've been doing it for years. >> The sperm could live in your body for 5 days. I'm just sorry. But so it's it
02:17:48
Serenitycould live up to 5 days in your body. So it's not only the day that you're ovulating. Also, the period tracking's >> some is off. It's not. You don't know. And that's why I honestly think the pill keeps me in order with that. I know when
02:18:00
SerenityI'm [ __ ] with your hormones. >> I would I wouldn't say it with mine. >> Well, if you don't want to date another 20, maybe you should consider getting off it. I don't know. >> Like it's
02:18:11
Brian AtlasI actually prefer being [laughter] a lot experience. One at a time. Please don't if somebody's talking, please don't interrupt them. Um just really quick going around the table. Who's on birth control? >> And can you say what? Like what kind?
02:18:24
Brian Atlas>> Uh yeah, I'm on this one called Vienna. And I've been on >> Is that the pill? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I'm on IUD. >> Best one I've had. >> Hormonal or copper? >> I don't know. >> There's a hormonal IUD and there's a copper IUD. Which is [clears throat] non
02:18:36
Hollyhormonal? >> I think non hormonal >> IUD. >> Wait. Hormonal or >> It's not copper. It's like marina. >> Marina. That's what I'm on. >> Uh >> never in my life. >> Never. Okay. >> I've not been on contraception for like
02:18:49
Serenity10 years. Okay. >> I'm not >> um the pill. >> The pill. Okay. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. All right. Oh, interesting. >> I would say an experience that's helped me out a lot. >> Me, too.
02:19:02
Brian Atlas>> I think we were trying to define what feminism is. I I mean, I'll just throw out two definitions super quick. I'll give you my charitable definition and then my my definition. Charitable definition is feminism is women's advocacy.
02:19:15
Brian AtlasThere's nothing wrong with women's advocacy. However, this is a counter to the claim that feminism is about equality or cares about equality.
02:19:27
Brian AtlasNothing wrong with women's advocacy, but don't parade it as an equality movement. Don't say you're a feminist. Don't say you're in favor of equality. Feminists do not give a [ __ ] about
02:19:39
Brian Atlasequality. They care about women's advocacy. Nothing wrong, but don't confuse the two. Now, here's what I think it actually is. Feminism is a man-hating ideology that perpetuates
02:19:50
Brian Atlasreally really harmful narratives and uh ideological rhetoric about men, about society, about women's roles historically in modern day, about men's
02:20:01
Brian Atlasroles historically in modern day. It's a complete fantasy. It's complete [ __ ] It's a scop. It's nonsense.
02:20:08
Brian AtlasIt's dog [ __ ] and it's super harmful to society. Uh, and then like somewhere back there there's women's advocacy baked into the man-hating.
02:20:20
Serenity>> That's why that's why I said what I said earlier is the the definition of feminism has very much changed over changed over these. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did it not start when women could not vote? Women could not be land
02:20:33
Amyowners. Women could not do a lot of things and that's why >> why don't you voting seriously repeal the 19th gosh al so let me ask you guys a
02:20:45
Amyquestion so your definition of feminism is men are equal to women right >> like >> so let me ask you this why do we need femin should have equal we should >> okay equal rights so let me ask you then why is feminism still needed in 2026
02:20:58
Amywhen women have just as many rights as men why do you still need to identify as one when we already have that and if not women have an excess >> cuz women like to exaggerate. >> Before you [laughter] guys give your answers uh when you give your answers
02:21:11
Brian AtlasI've just been noticing this. I know it's because Amy's sitting there. Can you guys just try to like look straight into the mic but sorry to interrupt but go ahead. >> I um wait. Okay, hold on. Let me come
02:21:24
Bella (Chipotle)back. I wouldn't have mentioned anything about feminism if you didn't ask me if I was a feminist because I'm not going to say I'm not a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the equal rights. >> So I'm not sitting here like constantly
02:21:36
Bella (Chipotle)>> preaching and everything because yeah, you're right. We have a lot of >> equality now, but I'm not going to just >> drop the idea that I feel they should be equal now that we have it.
02:21:47
Amy>> But they took it way too far than just having equal rights. And also if they but if the purpose of it has already been fulfilled, why do we still need it? Why is it still a prevalent ideology? >> We still have margin. >> Girl, I don't know.
02:22:00
Serenity>> They're trying so much to show that we're we are like men that they're trying to be like more than men. >> I feel like there is still a majority of I don't know my facts or anything, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but other like countries, they don't
02:22:13
Serenity>> in the United States. I'm just talking about the United States. Yeah, in the United States, I feel like it's still impactful and good to feel that we do have that privilege, I wouldn't say
02:22:24
Amyprivilege, the right to have the same rights as everybody else. >> But if it's already been achieved and fulfilled, then why why do we still need it? >> I think it's your history. >> Just remember to know that we it's not
02:22:37
Serenityhistory. >> Your definition on feminism is very different from what it started off in my mind. What I'm thinking about is we now
02:22:46
Serenityall get to vote. We all get to own land. We all like we have the same rights. I don't think it's about all the other things that you guys are talking about. I think it's just good to know.
02:22:58
Brian Atlas>> Sorry. Go ahead. >> And to support that we're able to do that cuz that only started in 1960. >> So quick response on this. Um so the women got the right to vote in the in
02:23:08
Brian Atlas1920. That's when the 19th amendment was what's the term ratified passed in any case 1920s women got the right to vote. So it's been over a century women have had the right to vote. So my first
02:23:20
Brian Atlasdefinition because you might say feminism is about equality between men and women. [clears throat] >> But even back then so even if you were to discard the second definition I gave you where I was like it's man-hating blah
02:23:34
Brian Atlasblah blah. >> Yeah. feminism even back a hundred years ago in the 1920s I would even argue uh it was never even about equality even going really really far back it was
02:23:45
Brian Atlasabout securing privileges and rights for women without any accompanying or corresponding duties or responsibilities. So, for example, by the way, just to be clear, it wasn't like men had the right to vote
02:23:57
Brian Atlasuniversally for like hundreds and hundreds of years and then women were just at least as it relates to suffrage. Women were just brutally oppressed. It was only like 50 years uh 50 years
02:24:09
Brian Atlasbefore women got the right to vote that men got the right the right to vote. You might say, well, that was still a period of time there where there was an unfair discrepancy. That might be true, but I would say in the in comparison to all of
02:24:21
Brian Atlashuman history, this is kind of a very small blip on the radar in terms of the difference. But what I'm trying to get at is in order for men to be able to vote, men have a duty to the country. In order for men to be able to vote, they
02:24:33
Brian Atlasare subject to military conscription. Men have to register for the selective service. It was the case in the 1920s. It's still the case today. Even though we've had a hundred years of feminism,
02:24:44
Brian Atlasrah raw feminism, fighting for equality, men today, in order to be eligible to vote, you have to register with the selective service. I think probably a lot of you women, especially you young women, probably don't even know what
02:24:55
Brian Atlasthat is. You're so blissfully uh what's the polite word? Ignorant. Well, ignorance is not particularly polite, but you're so unaware of the differentials here. Despite being
02:25:06
Brian Atlasfeminist, you you're not even aware of the primary mechanism in which there's an unfairness in the direction of men. Women can vote without any duty or responsibility to this country. I think we're >> But who set that system up?
02:25:19
Brian Atlas>> How would that be? >> Who set that system [laughter] up? >> But how would that be relevant? >> So, it's a great red herring. I'm happy but I'm I'm happy to talk about that. >> But it still your red herring doesn't
02:25:32
Brian Atlasactually address my argument here which you would acknowledge regardless of who set the system up. You would acknowledge that this is evidence of an unfairness or unequalness that exists between men
02:25:43
Brian Atlasor women which have women advantaged over men. Fair to say? >> Yeah. >> And I'm I'm willing to even Why don't we bite the bullet? You're right. It was
02:25:53
Brian Atlasmen who set that system up. But that isn't a that doesn't dismiss my position which is uh an unfairness or inequality does exist. For example, let me ask you this.
02:26:05
Brian Atlas>> Are you pro-life or pro-choice? >> Pro-choice. >> By the way, I'm not going to have an abortion argument with wi-i with with you. I hope what if it was the case what if it was the case that uh the Supreme Court was made up predominantly of women
02:26:18
Brian Atlasand then they actually were the ones who completely got rid of Roie Wade and not just that. This is a hypothetical. >> They also just completely out not just we're going to let the states decide,
02:26:29
Brian Atlasbut we're actually going to have a federal uh abortion ban. Like you can't, it doesn't matter if your state wants it. It's banned across the board. And it was a majority of women uh who were in
02:26:40
Brian Atlasthe Supreme Court. Would you accept me dismissing your uh arguments for pro-choice? Would you accept a dismissal on the basis that well women set that
02:26:52
Bella (Chipotle)system up? >> That is so confusing. >> Comprehension issues. Can you like shorten that question up a little bit? >> Well, essentially it's like if the Supreme Court was all women, they would
02:27:04
Brian Atlasnever ever do that though. >> There's plenty of conservative women who want to ban abortion. Trust me. However, well, uh, the the what I'm trying to argue here is that
02:27:15
Brian Atlasit's not a your position on abortion. You would feel from your perspective, the pro-choice position, you wouldn't entertain me saying, "Well, I'm going to
02:27:25
Brian Atlasdismiss your pro-choice arguments on the basis that uh, it's a red herring fallacy. On the basis, on the Oh, boy. It's basically if you're making an argument, you're basically like uh
02:27:37
Brian Atlastrying to distract with something that sound maybe sounds good or sounds like an argument, but it actually has nothing to do. You're not actually addressing my argument here. So, it's a red herring.
02:27:48
Brian AtlasIt's like, well, what about this thing? >> Uh it's not really related. So, in this case, I don't think you would accept uh a dismissal of pro-choice arguments or
02:28:00
Brian Atlaspositions if it happened to be the case that women were in power, but they were like conservative women. >> I would still >> You would still make arguments for pro-choice, right? >> Yeah.
02:28:12
Serenity>> Okay. It wouldn't dismiss your argument for why like pro >> if it was a bunch of women deciding for the entire US that you couldn't get abortions. I would still object to that. I would still hell.
02:28:23
Brian Atlas>> So here's what I'll do. We can get into in a little bit who set that system up. Happy to have that conversation. And I you know what just for the sake of conversation we can even grant that it's men. I have some I contest it a little bit. I would the group I think you would
02:28:37
Bella (Chipotle)have to point. >> Are you saying it's not men who set the this up? There's a lot of women that are >> I would say a few women. >> I would say it has to do with >> I'm not disregarding women. I'm just >> I would say who has the reigns of power,
02:28:49
Brian Atlasthe people in power, the elites >> and whether or not they're men, whether or not they have a penis seems kind of irrelevant to me. But back to this. So,
02:28:59
Brian Atlasokay, feminism in terms of duties. So, uh, feminists have had robust robust uh, how do what's the best way to put this?
02:29:11
Brian AtlasLook, I'll just get back to this. Feminism [snorts] is not an inequality movement. It's women's advocacy. Men have a duty to this country. Can you tell me a duty that women have? >> Didn't you just say that like a duty for
02:29:25
Serenitya woman is to stay home with her children? >> That's not a Can the government force you to get pregnant? No. >> Can the government force you to have children? >> Yes. >> What? No. The government >> The government is not allowing abortion.
02:29:38
Cheva>> It's not forcing you to have children. It's not to kill them once you already have them. >> You can't get an abortion. >> But you got pregnant. They didn't force you to get pregnant. You made the choice. >> They don't want you to kill them. >> Okay. So, also don't allow birth control getting pregnant.
02:29:51
Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, if I got raped, the government can force me to have that child if they take >> I feel like it's supposed to be It depends on the on the position >> force you first off. Many many states allow for abortion and the government doesn't ever force women.
02:30:03
Cheva>> They're not forcing pregnancy, but they're forcing birth >> cuz do you know how much abortions there's a year?
02:30:11
Amy>> It doesn't matter. None of your business like 25 genocide isn't [ __ ] at all. >> 25% of Gen Z has died through abortion.
02:30:23
AmyIt's actually insane. And also to make a couple of corrections. Yes, you're right, Brian. It was set up by the elites. That way they could tax double the amount of people so big daddy government could bring in more money. Number two, women could actually be
02:30:35
Amyhomeowners back in the day as long as they weren't married because once you're married then you know you're your husband is the one who provides the house. And to go back to the voting point, can you tell me what good has
02:30:46
Amycome from women being able to vote? Because most married couples >> women lean in the direction of liberalism, men lean in the direction of conservatism. And so if every household
02:30:56
Amyis voting, it cancels out the vote. >> No. And and I'm not just saying that women shouldn't be able to vote. I think that the standards for voting should be higher in general. Like it should be like you have to have contributed
02:31:07
Amysomething to society, be a homeowner, be in some type of standing, you know what I mean? But I think that women being able to vote was the first step that basically caused the feminization and the liberalization of the United States >> for the country at all.
02:31:22
Amy>> I what >> you don't want to say? I want my husband to be able to have a say. >> What if I didn't get married? I don't get a say. I >> Well, I think it depends. Again, I think it should be depending on your standing, but because of the propaganda, women lean very liberal and the liberal
02:31:34
Amypolicies are what are literally ravaging and destroying this country. That's why the ICE raids in Minnesota are happening right now because liberalism, we have this toxic empathy. to go back to a point that I brought up earlier where we
02:31:46
Amywant to import the third world, show them all this, you know, kindness and generosity and in fact give them rights that even Americans don't have. Illegals were coming over here and getting cards that they could use that were topped up every month. I think it was like, you know, 1,500 something like that per
02:32:00
Amymonth. They were being given accommodation in luxury like um basically hotel setups. Whereas we have service members who serve for this country who are literally homeless on
02:32:10
Amythe streets. That's not cool. How come illegal people coming to this country get more rights than the average American? >> You're right. Honestly, I don't think there should be any even legal immigration until we can provide for
02:32:24
Brian Atlaslike >> Yes, I agree. >> until we can provide for veterans and homeless. That's crazy that we're going to allow people to come here illegally or legally and they're going to either pull draw from our welfare system. Look,
02:32:36
Brian AtlasI actually, you know, I think you can actually to some degree have welfare, but you definitely can't have welfare and uh well, a lot of either legal
02:32:48
Amyimmigration or definitely can't have illegal immigration. >> Yeah. >> So, >> Australia is a a prime example for this. Like, Australia is literally collapsing right now. We have like a mixed
02:33:00
Amysocialized system. I like I've been taken to the hospital in an ambulance. It was free in Australia. um to a degree, you know, you get free healthcare, all of these things. But now, because of all of the illegals that they have imported, it's drained the
02:33:12
Amysystem so much that Australians are dying because ambulances are not arriving in time. The hospitals, there's literally not enough beds for Australians inside of the hospitals. It's causing the breakdown in in the
02:33:24
Amyfabric of society in Australia. And this is not just me talking from not knowing like I haven't been there in 10 years, but my family's there. And the other thing is when you're subservant to your government because they're just giving
02:33:36
Amyyou stuff. When the government says jump, your response is how high. That's why we have freedoms in the United States because we're not relying on big daddy government. During co lockdowns,
02:33:46
Amyit was complete tyony in Australia. Tyranny because because the government was able to tell them, hey, you can't go outside. You can't do this. You can't do that. Because everyone was subservient to them. Nearly every single week, my
02:33:59
Amymom would call me and say, "I'm so grateful that you're in the United States because you still have some semblance of freedom there." >> Can I say >> we we hit a couple different points
02:34:10
Brian Atlashere. Um, so >> can I say something about the abortions >> or we're not going into that? >> Well, that maybe time permitting we can get into it, but um I was talking about
02:34:20
Brian Atlaswhat duties what duties do women have >> and you were saying well women can be forced And then you brought up abortion. >> Yeah. The government can't force women
02:34:32
Serenityto get pregnant, >> but you can force birth because you cannot get an abortion. But this wouldn't be a duty. This wouldn't be >> accountability as women should be provided because yes, you if you are living in a state and you're not using the right protection or doing anything
02:34:45
Serenityto protect getting pregnant when you know you cannot get an abortion, then that's on the woman. But it it it really
02:34:54
Brian Atlasdepends where you are and how you reflect on your actions. I feel like >> I'm I'm going to follow up with that. First, I have a couple chats coming in here. I'm going to let them come
02:35:06
SPEAKER_00through. >> Oh, America.Fund donated $200. >> Good to see you, man. >> Question for each panelist. Do you support women's suffrage? What >> suffrage? Uh
02:35:18
Holly>> women's right to vote. Are you in favor of it? Yes. >> Yeah. >> He was asking that. >> Yeah. >> No. >> I don't know. I don't really know too much about it. >> Okay. >> Yes.
02:35:31
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> My husband just gets two votes. So, >> W. >> Married households should vote. >> Married households should vote. And then I think he has another one coming in here. Thank you, Ogle. Really good to see you, man. It's been a while. Thank
02:35:42
SPEAKER_00you, man. >> Ogal America. Fund donated $200. Question for panelists. Should a man be able to unilaterally terminate a pregnancy? >> What is the question?
02:35:55
Brian Atlas>> I think they have like they have a say in like abortion or not. >> Do they? Oh yeah. Yeah. The question is that the question should they determine >> unilaterally?
02:36:04
SerenityI think it should be 50 honestly 50/50 but depending on where this relationship is financially emotionally >> the woman should have majority of the
02:36:16
Serenitysay because it's affecting her body and affecting both of their lives. So I feel like that should be like a communication for the two not one person's decision. The question here would simply be uh
02:36:28
Brian Atlasassuming the woman wants to keep the pregnancy, should the man be able to force the woman who otherwise wants to keep the pregnancy to get an abortion? >> No, but I think he has the option to not be in the baby's life.
02:36:40
Brian Atlas>> He doesn't though. But uh I don't know if you heard that, Bella. Do you want to answer popcorn? >> I'm just against abortion period. >> Oh, we're talking about >> Okay, >> you >> um I think the man should have the
02:36:52
Brian Atlaschoice. Yeah. If he doesn't want >> the man should have the choice to force the woman to get a abortion >> if she doesn't want like if he doesn't want it. Yeah. >> Wait into the mic, please. >> If he doesn't want it. Yeah. >> That's an interesting one. Even pro-choice people are going to fight you
02:37:05
Chevaon that one. >> I'm against abortions and especially if they both were willing having sex, both consent to it, they shouldn't have an option to kill it. >> What about you?
02:37:16
Brian Atlas>> Um I think the guy should have a say. You know, it's his child. Again, the question is the woman wants to keep the kid. >> Should the man be able to force her to get an abortion if he doesn't want to
02:37:28
Tazhave a kid? >> I think he should because, you know, I mean, if we have the choice to not keep the baby and it just depends on the law,
02:37:40
Brian Atlasyou know, right? Like >> he's going to have to be. >> Are you pro-choice or pro-life? [snorts] >> You could say pro-choice. I just don't care. Even pro-choice people are definitely not okay with this. But okay. Um, what about you?
02:37:53
Brian Atlas>> I'm pro- life crossboard. So, >> okay. >> Pro-life. So, the question is if men >> woman's pregnant, she wants to keep it. He wants to abort it. >> He can't force her to kill it. >> Should he be able to be like, "You got
02:38:06
Brian Atlasto get an abortion." >> Yeah, of course. He can voice his opinion. >> No, no, no, no. But like legally, oh, legally. I mean, obviously the answer to the question, >> I think whether you're pro-choice or
02:38:18
Brian Atlaspro- life, you're probably going to arrive at the same conclusion on that for most people anyways. >> But, um, Ogle, really good to see you, man. Thank you for your TTS's. Appreciate it, guys. If you guys want to
02:38:29
Brian Atlasget a TTS in $200. Um, okay. So, I wanted to uh I guess come back to I'm still a bit caught up here. So, the question is, uh, do women have any
02:38:41
Brian Atlasduties? to the like any duties. >> They do not have legal duties. No, >> no legal duties. The answer is that's the crux of my argument here is that in
02:38:53
Brian Atlasorder for men to have a right, it comes with a corresponding responsibility. Women are afforded a essentially a privileged place in society because you don't have any duties. Women don't have duties. >> What's the men duty thing?
02:39:07
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, they don't really have >> military conscription. Forced military conscription. >> So, it's just like If they if they need the men, they have to go. >> Yes. The government can force men to go to war. The government there's can't
02:39:20
Brian Atlasforce women to go to war. There's not a law for it. There's no law for it on the books. >> Um and we see this playing out in >> jury duty. That's >> many many military conflicts. You, for
02:39:31
Brian Atlasexample, in Ukraine, we have a well, we got two Russian women here. Uh you see complete barbarism in Ukraine where you have military police abducting men. Like
02:39:42
Brian Atlasit it's you think what I doing is [ __ ] up. Ukrainian military police abduct men in the street and then force them into the military. All the men in Ukraine when the Ukraine war broke out had to
02:39:54
Brian Atlasstay in the country. If you're between the ages of like 18 and 60 or 65 as a man you could not leave the country if you're a woman. Okay. So, what you had
02:40:05
Brian Atlashappen when war broke out is all these 18 to well, pretty much any age Ukrainian woman, they went to London, they went to Sweden, they went to Stockholm, they
02:40:17
Brian Atlaswent to Oslo, they went to Miami, they're in the club, they're having they're having their hot girl summer, they're [ __ ] >> and Ukrainian men are dying. >> So, you want to talk about privilege,
02:40:29
Brian Atlasyou want to, oh, women are so oppressed. Nah, actually >> I don't think anyone here said that. >> No, that's feminism. That's feminism. Women oppressed, men oppressors. Women oppressed, women had it worse. That is
02:40:40
Brian Atlasfeminism. Are you denying that feminism, the lens and framework of feminism is not women have it worse than men. That is the entirety of feminism. >> To be honest, I just thought it was about equality. >> Yeah, we already said,
02:40:54
Brian Atlas>> but that's what we're talking about. >> Apologies, men have it worse than men. Women have less rights than men. But I don't think that's what anybody none of us are saying.
02:41:03
Brian Atlas>> But explain to me why after a hundred years of equality that women have no duty to the United States, women shouldn't be subject to military conscription. They're not subject to the
02:41:15
Brian Atlasselective service. They're not subject to the draft. Why is that? Why? If feminism is about equality, shouldn't feminists, but shouldn't feminists be actively fighting
02:41:26
Brian Atlasfor women >> to be subject to military conscription? >> Where where are they? Where are the feminists who are fighting for this? >> I think your definition of feminism is like completely different than what we're saying.
02:41:38
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Like I'm not not hitting with anything you're saying. It's not his. This is what the society. >> It's not just I don't care about definition. So, so for example, if I were to define um [sighs and gasps] what would I say if I
02:41:51
Brian Atlaswere well tell me what your definition of feminism is? Let's start there. >> Just that >> like I just equality, >> huh? >> Women empowerment like we get to do we through feminism. >> No, but I agree with you in the
02:42:05
Bella (Chipotle)charitable sense. >> I'm not saying that men and women have to have everything like exactly this. Like I'm not saying cuz
02:42:14
Bella (Chipotle)>> I think we messed up trying to say >> I'm saying that we like women >> you got >> like we can work now, we can own houses now and stuff like like that. >> They always could. >> Mhm. We couldn't
02:42:26
Brian Atlas>> there was look there I'm not going to like lie or gaslight. There were some either bank policies or procedures or sometimes even laws that may have been
02:42:37
Brian Atlasor in fact were discriminatory towards women. But those have all since been overturned. >> Yeah. But >> because of the move, >> right? And and we can have a discussion on the effects of that. And look, I'm
02:42:48
Brian AtlasI'm fine with it really, I guess. But ultimately, when we're talking about equality, I don't think you can ever make an argument that feminists really care about true equality. Feminist >> That's all I care about. >> You don't care about it, though, because
02:43:01
Serenityyou would be in the streets fighting for yourself and other women to be drafted. >> But you're not. >> You can't. Okay, there could be women that would want to do that. >> There definitely is.
02:43:12
Brian Atlas>> No, no, no, no, no. It's not about what women want. Nobody wants to be drafted. >> This is something that people don't like >> don't want to be like imagine advocating
02:43:24
Brian Atlasfor something that would conceivably negatively affect you. That's the issue with feminism. You only seek equality in the ways and frameworks that would
02:43:34
Brian Atlasbenefit women. But arriving at equality where women will not reap a benefit, you will not fight for it. In fact, if we do
02:43:44
Brian Atlasattempt to get equality between men and women, but it somehow inconveniences women, you'll actually fight against it. You'll fight against the attempt for equality. So, you can't call feminism an
02:43:57
Brian Atlasequality movement if you would actually actively fight against equality to secure the benefits or privileges or rights for women that perhaps they have that are even better than men's own.
02:44:10
Brian Atlas>> Honestly, I would just fight against the people having to get draft. >> Let's I think Well, I think we should draft women. >> Amy, [laughter] you know, she wants to repeal the 19. I
02:44:19
Brian Atlaspersonally have a radical position. I think in fact as a perhaps not revenge but we should maybe only send women to war for a couple decades. See how that goes. [laughter] But I think >> they're just not going to talk to each other.
02:44:33
Cheva>> No, they're not going to talk to each other. >> But look, I think we should draft women. >> Women should be drafted >> and they will be dead in Israel. There's a lot of women in the military. It should for like Okay, cuz we're speaking
02:44:45
Serenityabout like women and all that stuff. I think men should have to should have the choice if they would like to be in the military or not. See, that's where I come in with equality. It's not just about women getting like what they want.
02:44:57
SerenityI feel like with equality, men and women should be equal. Women get the choice if they want to be in the military. Men should have the choice if they want to be in the military. But that's the reason why we have the army we do. Well,
02:45:08
Brian Atlasthe thing is is is so you you can you can volunteer obviously to be in the military and women can volunteer too, which I actually think >> if women have the ability to voluntarily
02:45:19
Serenityjoin the military, we should definitely be able to force women into the military. >> Well, I don't think it should be forcing anybody. >> So then what if we don't have an army? >> Hold on. But we don't have an army. >> So I agree with you in the we're not forcing anyone. [laughter]
02:45:33
Brian AtlasWe'll >> die. I'll address that super quick. So um >> Russia's coming >> there shouldn't there should never no bad things should ever happen there should never be war nobody should ever be victim of a crime but while people
02:45:46
Brian Atlasare victims of a crimes like for example you'd agree that in a society where there was never any crime we wouldn't need police right >> right >> however we live in an imperfect world where crime does exist and for this
02:45:58
Brian Atlasreason we need police to either prevent or investigate uh crimes >> and so in that same way we live in an imperfect world. Even if we lived in
02:46:07
Brian Atlastheii uh United States of America utopia where, you know, things were perfect here, who knows, maybe there's a belligerent other nation that wants to
02:46:18
Brian Atlascome here and wants our resources, wants our land, or wants to rape our women. And so, we should have a military to defend against potentially aggressive
02:46:28
Brian Atlasoutsiders. Now geopolitics has evolved >> really substantially. But I mean in the past the reason you had an army was basically like that tribe that group
02:46:39
Brian Atlasthat state that uh nation over there they want our land. >> Yeah. >> And when they take our land they're going to they're going to kill the men. They're going to rape the women. And so
02:46:52
Brian Atlassometimes well I'll just say this. You have people who volunteer for the military. the government. Nations are not going to
02:47:01
Brian Atlasrelinquish their ability to force its parenthesis male citizenry into uh mandatory military service
02:47:11
Brian Atlasbecause in some scenario where you know you had like some well I guess in any situation you could always like change laws or whatever. Um even if they did away with a draft you could just pass a
02:47:24
Brian Atlasnew law like okay we need to we [laughter] need a draft again. So, it's like even if you did away with the draft, they would just pass new laws. But, um, given the fact that nations are not
02:47:34
Brian Atlasgoing to relinquish their ability to force their citizenry into, uh, potential military conflicts, I think from that perspective, we need to we shouldn't be talking about what should
02:47:45
Brian Atlasbe. We have to talk about, okay, well, here's the scenarios. Here's all all the circumstances. How should we arrange things given what is? I'm not talking about what should be. I'm talking about
02:47:56
Brian Atlaswhat is since men do have to be for uh who are forced uh well who have to be subject to military conscription. I think we should have women subject to military conscription too. I I would
02:48:08
Brian Atlasalso just be in favor of I'd be in favor of just getting rid maybe this is more extreme than Amy's take. It wouldn't be rolling back rights for women. I think we should just get rid of universal suffrage entirely.
02:48:21
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So it's not just women. Uh, I think a lot of men probably shouldn't be voting too. I think it should be you have a stake in the country and you can get that stake through military service. I think probably more men would take that
02:48:34
Brian Atlastrade. I want to vote. I'm going to join the military. But women would be able to do that too. They can volunteer too. And that way women can get the right to vote. I think you can do other things too like you could do um, you know, you
02:48:46
Serenityyou own land or something like that. Women >> Yeah. Why is it that women aren't required to be drafted? >> Uh why is it that
02:48:58
Lisa (Utah)>> women aren't uh cuz there's a law. >> Well, yeah, but why? Cuz when they were fighting for the right to vote, they weren't like, >> "Well, >> but also sign us up for the military." >> Well, there's a couple reasons. It's
02:49:10
Brian AtlasThere's a couple reasons. So, the first is uh women are not I'm not trying to be offensive. Uh women are not uh particularly good soldiers in combat.
02:49:21
Diana (Russia)>> So why would you want >> equality? >> How about this? Uh the one who's child free, the one who's child free, they can be drafted. The one who wants to stay home and have a kids, they just stay home with their husband.
02:49:35
Amy>> How do you see that? >> It's as simple as like, do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities? And if your answer to that is yes, then that means that you should be down for the draft. And if you're not down for the draft, then you
02:49:46
Amydo believe in woman supremacy, which is Brian's functional definition for feminism in 2026. It's really that simple. Do you believe that equal rights should come with equal responsibilities? >> And if your answer is no, I wouldn't
02:49:59
Amywant to be drafted, then you do by virtue of that believe in woman supremacy even if you haven't thought of it that way. >> I can see that. >> I agree. >> I mean, I do think responsibility >> cla [laughter]
02:50:10
SerenitySorry. >> Yeah. No, I do think that your the responsibilities and the requirements should be the same. It should be equal. >> I don't I take it back. I'm not going to war.
02:50:22
Brian Atlas>> So, you're not a feminist anymore? >> Let's go. She's not a feminist anymore, Brian. We redpilled her. [laughter] >> But if you really think about it, and this doesn't just apply to the United States. This applies to almost any
02:50:35
Brian Atlascountry where you have universal suffrage. There's like maybe two or three countries where women have to do mandatory military service. The rest it's exclusively uh either subject to
02:50:48
Brian Atlasmilitary conscription or you actually actively uh they do in a lot of countries uh men have mandatory military service. It's not just well in wartime draft time. No, like I think in uh
02:51:00
Brian Atlas>> Israel, right? >> In a lot of Asian countries, a lot of the men have to uh I maybe I shouldn't say a lot of Asian countries, but I think it's the I think there's a couple I don't know
02:51:10
Summerthe exact Asian countries. Uh there is mandatory military service for men. Um >> in Israel unless UK >> I'm not sure but I think the UK women can be drafted >> because I think they brought that in like 3 years ago. >> No, you can be.
02:51:23
Summer>> Yeah, women can be drafted. It got brought in. I'm pretty obviously I'm not sure. >> I just know if you've got like mental health problems, you can't be >> in the UK. I'm sure everyone Google it,
02:51:32
Brian Atlasplease. Cuz we we could be wrong. I think I'll Google UK can women >> because I remember it a couple of years ago it being in the talks but obviously not sure if it actually did happen.
02:51:43
Brian Atlas>> Uh currently there's no conscription draft in the UK for men or women service is entirely voluntarily. >> Yeah we don't get we don't get >> women are eligible for combat roles but that's not related. Um
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Cheva>> h >> in Israel unless you have a reason not to go. So, you're supposed to go like you have to get a reason not to go to to to army >> relig uh for women it's religious reasons. I didn't go because of
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Chevareligious reasons or if you're not capable like medically >> for guys. >> What if you're pregnant? >> No, that's yeah forced you to go. >> But it's because you're >> incapable of
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Brian Atlas>> Israel is a very small country so it's in need I guess more. >> Yeah. >> Uh oh. We're going to get into Okay. Uh, ask everyone to rate their own looks.
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Brian Atlas>> Face, body, total on a scale of 0 to 10. You can't pick seven. So, give me uh 0 to 10 for face, body, and then total. Starting with you. >> Face 10, body 10.
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Brian Atlas>> Uh, so total 10. I'm assuming >> total 20. >> Well, you don't add that up, but 10 out of 10. [clears throat] Okay, we got it. What about you?
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Brian Atlas>> I think face like eight, body nine. >> Eight, nine. So 8.5 or 8.5, I guess. >> What about you? >> 10 all around. >> 10. 10. 10. Okay.
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Holly>> Amy, what about you? >> Uh face six, body eight. >> No, you're a 10. >> You can't You can't pick seven. I would have picked seven, but >> I would have picked seven also. I'd like seven.
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Holly>> Then do the one above. So you >> uh face eight, body eight. >> Uh wait. Okay. Eight. What about you?
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ChevaUm, can I say something first? Okay, I'll say. Sure. Um, [laughter] face six, body three, all around five. But I want to say something. It doesn't
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Chevamean my confidence. I'm just I feel like I'm just very accurate to what the beauty standards are. And I'm not standing there. Tens are people like Margaret Robbie or whatever. Like
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Cheva>> Yeah. Like we can't be It does. The question is not how confident you are, how much you love yourself. Cuz if so, I would say a nine, let's say. But I'm just in reality, I know that I'm around a five or a six or whatever.
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Taz>> So, it doesn't mean that I don't think I'm pretty analogy of that. >> Face five, body five. >> Girl, at least a tick.
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Taz>> But I I know the boys love me in Miami. So, >> the boys love me in Miami. So, >> you're so hot. There's no way you're five. >> They love you. >> Hey, I just don't want any backlash. >> Used to 10. I honestly >> how can you at least be at
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Summer>> I know. I'm sorry. Honestly, you would be very high up on my scale and I'm by so [laughter] I am high in the Miami. I'm just like not mess [laughter] across the board.
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Diana (Russia)>> Okay. What about you? >> Well, I'm Russian, so I think it's like maybe face and body three and a half.
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Brian Atlas>> Okay. I give myself a 4.5. 4.5 4.5 across the board. Uh >> oh, we could do.5. >> Oh, yeah. It is what it is. >> Is that the rating for yourself? That's
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Brian Atlaswhat you were. >> You're probably So, you are higher than average. [laughter] >> Uh, that's my rating. >> Can you rate us? >> Yeah, let's do that. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yep. [laughter] We'll do that. We'll do that. >> We'll do that. >> Give it to me.
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Brian Atlas>> Roast us. >> It's cool. What is it? >> Hey, [laughter] pump the brakes there. Okay. Pump the brakes. Uh, >> what's that? >> Yeah, we'll do that in just a moment. We'll do the looks ratings in just a
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Brian Atlasmoment, but I have a few more questions for you guys. Uh, going around the table, rate your personality on a scale of 0 to 10. >> Okay. Um, I'd say I have some questionable qualities about my
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Serenitypersonality. So, I'd say like a eight. >> Wait, hold on. Let's dive into that. >> Questionable. >> Questionable qualities personality. >> Bipolar. Are you What's going on? >> No, I'm No, not bipolar. Maybe a little bit. She stims too much.
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Serenity>> I'm just a little autistic. I would say I'm autistic. I'm diagnosed autistic. >> You have autism? >> Yeah. Okay. Me, [laughter] too. Me, too. >> Oh, really? Twins. >> Twinsies. >> Tylenol.
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Serenity>> Well, I think I mean, does a So, okay. Are you like socially awkward? How does it manifest itself? >> Uh, well, I'm very dyslexic. >> I'm have very bad ADHD. Um, when the the camera hits a certain
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Serenityangle, you just see me kicking my feet this whole time. Um >> um uh what? >> But that doesn't mean that your personality is lies. >> I say I would say it reflects on my personality. It makes me funny. I'm not going to lie. Like it makes me
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Bella (Chipotle)>> I have a very literally the same exact answer as Ren. She's saying that like I love my personality. I would say I love her personality. 10 all around, but like we can't hang around anyone because some people look at us and be like, "Please shut the [ __ ] up."
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Bella (Chipotle)>> Yeah. Like last week someone I was too much. No, we have a conversation. It's literally just like overlapping each other like only we're a flow state. >> That's less the [laughter] truth. >> I think you guys have really good personalities.
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Serenity>> No, like I love my I love my personality. I just do say there's some qualities about it that scares people. >> What was the rating? >> I like how you said it makes you 8.5 actually. >> Yeah. >> Uh personality score >> like a seven.
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Holly>> Seven. >> 10. No shame. >> 10. >> Hell yeah. Actually, >> I'd say probably about an eight as well. Yeah. Okay. What about you? >> I'd say to the public probably around a four, but like to my close friends and people that know me, probably about a nine. >> You're a 10.
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