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Date: 2026-01-26

Duration: 7h 49m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBella (Chipotle)>

DDiana (Russia)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Bella (Chipotle)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Cheva(guest)

SPEAKER_05Serenity(guest)

SPEAKER_07Lisa (Utah)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Amy(guest)

SPEAKER_09Diana (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taz(guest)

SPEAKER_12Holly(guest)

SPEAKER_13Summer(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 10 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentDiana hesitates on US vs Russia allegiance. Brian reads naturalization oath.

ControversySummer vs Amy: UK grooming gangs, immigration, Palestine

QuoteAmy presents feminism as CIA-funded communist project to double labor pool

Key MomentSerenity's ex was DL gay - found DMs with trans woman while on birth control

Key MomentBella sings Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black' live, wins pizza

ControversyDiana: wants more white people, whites 'going extinct'

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

10 guests including 2 international (Scotland, Australia)

Allegiance Debate

Diana hesitates on US vs Russia. Amy: 'America first 100%.'

Immigration/Grooming Gang Debate

Summer vs Amy on UK grooming gangs and immigration.

Feminism History

Amy presents feminism as communist/Marxist/Satanist project.

Self-Ratings

Guests rate themselves. Serenity wants $2-5M/yr husband income.

Bella Sings Amy Winehouse

Bella performs 'Back to Black' a cappella to applause.

White Population Decline

Diana wants more white people. Amy supports.

Summer Catholic vs Porn

Brian challenges Summer for being Catholic while doing porn.

Show Wrap

~8 hour show.

Transcript

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Summerlike different people in different cultures. There's so many like Christians that are awful people. There's so many Muslims that are awful people. There's siks that are awful people. There's >> Yeah, but there's percentage like you can tell what is more. You know

Amy>> what about gun crime in America? Whites. White Christians. >> It's percentage. >> The most gun crimes are perpetrated by by black people. Actually, >> look at the percentage. It's not a white.

Amy>> What about skill shootings? White people. >> What did you say? Sorry. >> What about skill shootings? White people. >> I mean, usually those people are jacked up on SSRIs or they're like [ __ ] And I also have a huge problem with them as well. So, we can talk about that,

Amytoo. >> Is that true? >> Yes, it is. I mean, there's so many different examples. Most of the people are either jacked up on SSRIs or it's a trans. I mean, even look at Charlie Kirkshooter. If you believe the official

Amynarrative, it was the boyfriend of a furry. It was somebody from the LGBTQ community. And they've gone through. >> It's true. Do you not know about this? I don't even know if I believe the official narrative, but the story that they are feeding us because it's so believable.

Amy>> LGBTQ. >> Yeah. >> A furry. >> Furry. >> Where's the F in LGBTQ? >> No. >> So, it's not part >> Well, they're one they were gay together. It was a man and a man. and

Amythe boyfriend of the murderer of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, was with a guy called Lance F. He was gay. >> Um, I think that he narrative, yes, the official narrative

Amyis that they took issue with Charlie Kirk's stance against the LGBT community. That is the narrative that's being fed to us. And the reason why they're feeding us that is because it's so believable because so many school shootings are in fact perpetrated and

Summershootings in general are in fact perpetrated by people from the LGBTQ community. >> It's true. I'm sorry. It's true. >> I'm not going to argue with you that gay people love guns. Like that's crazy.

Amy>> I mean, Americans in general love guns. We have the Second Amendment and thank goodness. I mean, Australia lost the right to bear arms in the 90s and that was a huge mistake. The fact that someone can go and shoot someone just because he has different opinions is crazy.

Amy>> That is crazy. You guys shouldn't be able to do that. >> No, we shouldn't. I'm not saying that that grants you the right to shoot someone because they have a different opinion. You have the right to bear arms to defend yourself. >> I agree. >> I'm just saying. [laughter]

Amy>> Why are you so bothered? >> Why are you like spewing like rhetoric that makes no sense? Your level of cognitive dissonance is insane. It's >> not. In Scotland, there was one singular school shooting. Okay. One in the '9s.

SummerAfter that school shooting, no more guns. >> Singular. >> Okay, but now just young 14-year-old girls need to defend themselves with knives against these immigrants. So, I mean, they're tracking much >> [ __ ] person, mate. Do you know how many white boys rape in Scotland? Do you

Summerknow how many white boys rape and kill in Scotland and rape and kill in Ireland? >> I mean, >> and obviously Englandism. [laughter] That's like a what aboutism? >> That's called a what aboutism. >> Exactly. Yes, it is in fact what

Summeraboutism. You can't argue with one stat that because one im one lady, one little girl had to fight off an immigrant. Obviously, >> it's reflective of a broader problem in the society.

Summer>> There's not there's genuinely I could show you pictures of like of Glasgow and it's literally Palestine flags with Scotland flags mixed together. We're so fine with immigrants. We're so fine with all it. We don't care. Don't I don't

Summercare about England. England may be a different story. Don't take anything to do with it. >> United States flag in Palestine. No idea, bro. You support Palestine? These >> countries are free. I do support Palestine. Really? I do. >> Could you be gay? Could you be gay in

ChevaPalestine? >> Do you think if you would walk like that, though? >> A gay person in Palestine? >> I just don't think people should die in a >> What do you think if you would walk like that? What would they do? >> If you walk like that in Israel, no one would do anything. >> I wouldn't go to Israel. I wouldn't go to Palestine. I wouldn't go to these

Chevaplaces. >> Why not? So, how can you think people should die? >> How can you have an opinion if you wouldn't even go and visit there? because I can have an opinion with you. >> Respectfully, you don't know what you're saying if you weren't there. I I've lived in

Cheva>> say I don't think anyone I don't think Israelis should die. I don't think Palestinians should die. >> Of course, but there's much more should there's much more to it than dying. Like, of course, no one wants to die,

Chevayou know, like it's not legal anywhere, but it's you can't have you can't take I'm saying to kill someone, but >> I'm saying you can't take a side if you don't know enough about the conflict. I

Amyknow. I know some stuff. I'm fine with taking Palestine's side. >> I just feel like Western cultures have been propagandized to accept these things out of empathy. And in fact, I I think was it Charlie Kirk? No, it

Amywasn't. But somebody termed it like suicidal empathy. That's what we have where we feel so sorry for these marginalized groups of people to the point that it's to our own detriment. >> So we feel sorry for people dying in a

Summerwar. That's >> But really had people dying in the war. >> Yeah. That's horrible. So, why are you taking Palestine side? >> I'm just taking Palestine's side. >> Why? >> Because I feel like I want to take Palestine side. I don't want to get into

Summerit because obviously like I'm in America, right? You guys we we have different people in Scotland have different opinions of people. >> It's just hard to hear you take a side without you know having information about it. >> That's absolutely fine.

Amy>> There's also a difference between a war and a genocide. >> Yeah. And >> it's not a genocide. Well, that's I' I've agreed with everything else you've said up until this point, but on that I I

Amyfundamentally disagree. Gaza has been essentially wiped off the map. >> It has. It's a genocide. It's not a genocide. It is. There's no >> I mean, a lot of a lot of leaders on the world stage have now called it out as a

Amygen genocide. BB Netanyahu is a wanted international uh war criminal. In fact, many of these countries have said that if he goes there, they will simply arrest him. >> Scotland is one of them. Um, so I agree

Amywith you on everything else you said. I agree with you on that thing that you just said, but um, >> maybe it's getting a little bit too political for a dating show. I'm not sure, >> though. He wants us. [laughter] >> He loves us. >> You like this, Brian? >> Not really.

SPEAKER_06>> Okay. >> Shall we talk about dating? >> I have a lot to say, but I don't think this is the topic. So, >> would any of you guys >> We can have different opinions. That's absolutely. >> I have a question. Very important. >> Would you guys have sex with Vladimir Putin to prevent World War II? [laughter] For sure.

Summer>> Very important. >> Absolutely. >> I would definitely follow. >> You do love an older man. You would do it for free. >> I would. >> Go ahead. >> Oh, no. I wasn't say anything.

Summer>> Oh, I wasn't saying anything. >> No, she said >> she's asking you the question. >> No. >> What type of a question [laughter] is this? >> I would if it was to prevent World War free.

Amy>> W Next. I mean, yeah, >> kind of have to. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't have to. >> Listen, World War II means like nuclear

Amyweapons and the whole world will fundamentally >> cease to exist. Like human beings will go extinct. I believe it's a high probability if we go into World War II. So, I guess with the permission of my

Amyhusband, uh, I mean, this is insane though. This [laughter] is a crazy question. How >> would your husband, how would your husband feel about that? Well, that's what I'd say. It would be with his pro. I don't >> Do you think he would?

Amy>> I I don't It's hard to say. I don't think I can speak for him, but the stakes are so high right now. It's either infidelity, which is a sin in the Bible, um or it's save the world. The world ends. >> Let's say you're single. Pretend you're

Amysingle. >> If I was single. >> Mhm. >> I guess that's such a crazy question though, girl. My [laughter] gosh. >> You're saving the world, though. You got a front bud.

AmyYou can be the hero of our time. >> Yeah, you could be. >> There is no situation in which this would actually happen. It's such a >> ridiculous hypothetical. >> Yeah, >> I'll leave you.

SPEAKER_06>> But why Vladimir Putin? Why he? I don't think it depends on him. >> Because I said Trump last time and I just wanted to switch it up. >> Okay. >> Interesting. >> Russia's kind of base though to be

Amyhonest. I mean, they said that they want to bring more Christian um immigrants to Russia, which is interesting. He said he and they're actually expelling um all Satanists from Russia, which is pretty cool. They made it actually illegal to

Amybe a Satanist over there. So, W Russia Satanist >> someone they're in the Church of Satan. We actually saw one today um when I was at a coffee shop with my fiance earlier. It was a woman wearing a shirt with ball

Amyon it, like satanic imagery, and it said, "Not today, Jesus." And she literally looked like she was under demonic possession. So >> yeah, W Russia for that. Honestly, that's kind of cool.

Diana (Russia)>> Well, Russia ban a lot of stuff like LGBT, transgenderism >> based >> something else. Like there's lots of

Diana (Russia)stuff that could be illegal here in United States is illegal in Russia. And >> I mean fundamentally, you know, we have first

Amyamendment. We have freedom to speech. We have we have freedom in the US. And I think that that is great. I don't think that things should necessarily be legally imposed. I wouldn't want that necessarily here in the US, but I think it should be socially discouraged and

Amythere should be a lot more shame around these things. I think we need to bring shame back due to the suicidal empathy that I was mentioning a little bit earlier. Well, you think you have freedom of speech here? >> Much more than any other country in the

Amyworld. I mean, even in Australia, they have now started arresting people. They've imposed hate speech laws following the Bondi Beach shooting that happened out there. It's now illegal to speak um poorly of any Israeli citizen

Amyor any Israel in general actually. Uh what do you think about that by the way? Do you think it should be illegal to speak negatively about um Israel or BB Netanyahu? I don't know how you can

Chevacontrol what people will speak, but the terrorist attack that happened there was insane. Like, >> but it's not something you should just >> Well, it was a false flag, but do you think that it should therefore result in people not being able to say anything

Amynegative about Israel? Like, for example, if if the what she was saying earlier about like free Palestine, she sides with the Palestinians. I said that the war is actually a genocide. Do you think that should be illegal to say? >> Yes, cuz it's not true.

AmyBut I don't think you can control what people will say. So it doesn't >> But you think you should be able to >> you should be able to what? >> Control what people say because you just said you think it should be illegal for people to speak about BB or say that the

Amywar is a genocide or do you just feel like it should be socially discouraged? >> I feel like everyone could have their own opinion but I feel like it's wrong to think that when you don't have enough information. >> What if you do have enough information?

Amy>> If you think that you don't have enough information. I mean, there's also an argument to be made about people who've been propagandized. And obviously, the United States is best friends with Israel. And so, >> I live in Israel. I know what's going on there. >> Do you live in Scotland? And you were

Chevalike, >> "That's not true. That's not true." >> I I didn't say about Scotland. I said about England. I don't know what's happening in Scotland. >> You also don't live in England. >> I've been to England. >> So, do you have enough information to say that? >> Have you been? No, but if you live in England, too. If you've been >> I've been to England. I don't have

Chevaenough information [laughter] to say that. Well, if you've been to Palestine, even if you didn't live there, I would accept more. But you don't you weren't even there. >> I think the thousands of women and

Amychildren who were brutally murdered um in Gaza and the West Bank, by the way, uh would probably disagree with you if they were still here.

SPEAKER_06>> All right. Where were we? Yeah. >> Vladimir Putin sex World War II >> chair five or whatever >> to say to prevent said yeah I said I' I said I [ __ ]

Cheva>> can I skip. [laughter] >> We're not allowed to have sex before marriage. So it's kind of like in Judaism it's not an option really. >> Okay. >> Even if the world depended on >> it going to let everybody die.

Cheva>> Well that wouldn't happen. >> I mean that [laughter] was my argument too but I was forced to answer. I don't feel like God would do such a thing like you. >> Me either, but I was forced to answer too. >> Is it my turn? >> Would you not [ __ ]

Cheva>> No. >> No. No. Like, do you >> You could say no. Like you I'm saying >> cuz I don't want it to sound like I don't care. Of course, I would want to save the world, but it's >> it's against your religion. >> It's against my religion.

Amy>> Also a sin in the Bible for to be, you know, to have infidelity and to cheat, >> right? I don't do that. Yeah. No. And I don't either. And Christians don't either. But I mean, if the world was

Chevaliterally going to end due to nuclear explosion, right? >> I can't say I would go against my religion. >> It's okay. It's fine.

Taz>> Let him die. >> We're all dead. So, [laughter] >> wait. Sorry. Did you want to add something? >> No. I think I've added enough for that. >> I I would definitely do it if like you

Tazknow my vagina can let the people live. [snorts] Let it be that. >> Let it be that. >> Yeah. So the answer is yes. I would. >> Hell yeah.

Lisa (Utah)>> What about you? >> That would be my husband's decision and I don't speak for him. So >> uh what if you were single? >> That is super hard cuz I have known my husband since I was 13. So like I don't even

Taz>> no before him you know I don't know >> you know that it's it's just like a you know hypothetical question. So >> hypothetically I guess if I had if I was >> if you had to protect all of us like all

Brian Atlasthe children all the women all the men in the world of the world >> it's it's up to you know >> right >> sure >> wow that was that was uh lively there while I was uh gone from the table. Okay, that was an interesting

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Brian AtlasLot of [ __ ] going on. I know we were talking about politics. This is sort of dating related or whatever. >> Speaking of immigration, I guess. >> Uh, would you date an ICE agent? [snorts and laughter] >> You're so problematic.

Brian Atlas>> No. >> No. >> No. >> Is that No. Okay. What about No, >> I don't think so. Maybe just explain why. I guess >> I don't support what they're doing. >> Why would I?

Serenity>> What's specifically? >> Why would I want to date, marry somebody? >> Yeah, date, marry, hook up, whatever you want to do. I guess >> I just say no. I don't support what they're doing. >> What specifically do you not support?

Brian Atlas>> I don't support what Ice is doing. But like so I think there can be for example there are clearly instances of police misconduct, police killings,

Brian Atlas>> well police brutality uh and even someone who otherwise supports police can be against police doing things that are wrong and that definitely happens. >> And perhaps there are recent instances

Brian Atlaswhere you might, you know, think, well that's not great. But in terms of against what they're doing in terms of are you against them? >> I don't support what they're >> legally deporting. But are you against

Brian Atlasthem legally deporting illegal immigrants? >> Well, I just wouldn't want to date an ICE agent either way. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Like that's up to them. But that's just >> Yeah. No, but you you said that you're against what they're doing, which

Serenitythey're p the primary thing that >> I against I'm against what they're being made to do. Yeah. And what they choose to do. Well, it could be civil. It could be easy. I mean, somewhat. It's not an

Brian Atlaseasy job, but there are some cases where it's not what you want to. I just don't. >> Yeah. So, I mean, I'm I'm happy to grant that there are definitely probably instances where either the ICE agents

Brian Atlasare doing something wrong or, you know, maybe even we could even categorize it as far worse than that. But I guess when it comes to when it comes to the deportations,

Brian Atlasdo you object to justified deportations of illegal immigrants? >> Um, I would say you got this, Ryan.

Serenity>> You got this. [laughter] >> I think the main goal is I understand the main goal for it, but I think it's been taken too far.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean, look, I think for some people they that's a reasonable position to have, but in terms of the fundamental thing that they're trying to do, which is deporting people who are here illegally. Do you object? Let's assume

Serenitythey go about it. >> No, I don't object. Yes. Deportation for the people who are not coming into the country the correct way is I understand that. Go do it the correct way, but

Serenity>> Okay. So, you're fine with that? >> Yeah. with what they're how they're handling how they're doing it is what I don't support that part. >> Uh would you date an ice agent? >> Probably not. >> Probably not. >> Absolutely not.

Brian Atlas>> I don't really know too much about what's going on to be able to to give my decision. >> Well, essentially an ice age agree. I know you've just said that. >> Yeah. It's somebody who is enforcing the immigration laws of the United States.

Brian AtlasSo, if you were to try to apply to your country, if somebody came to the the UK illegally, uh you would have a law enforcement officer uh apprehending them and deporting them. >> If they was doing it the right way, then yeah.

Cheva>> Okay. >> Yeah. Just like a police, like if he's doing it by how the government or laws or >> Okay. What about you? >> Um no, I'm just not into like >> not into Okay.

Lisa (Utah)>> I don't think being an ICE agent inherently makes you a bad person or a bad partner. So, okay. I don't understand that. >> Hello. You >> of course. Yes. I would date and marry. [snorts]

Brian AtlasAce agent. Ice agent. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Uh, let's see here. We have Oh, let me shout out a couple people who have Looks like you guys bought some merch. Thank you guys. You guys didn't send a message, but

Brian Atlasthank you. Uh, Nikolai, thank you for the cash app payment. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. Thank you. All right, guys. Uh, we are What the heck happened there? One sec, guys. I'm fixing something.

Brian Atlasin my computer. Okay. Uh we're going to get into Oh, you know what? Here's a question for the Only Fans girls. Um Only Fans. Only

Brian Atlasfans. Only fans. Nobody else has Only Fans. Uh super quick segment. So, do you guys get Why I guess we can even do it with the women who don't do Only Fans. Like, have you had guys who just send

Brian Atlasyou money kind of simps or whatever? Like, they'll just send you money. Here's 10 bucks. Here's 50 bucks. 100 200. >> Um, >> they're called pays. >> PayPigs. Pays. Have you guys had you have that? Have that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> All right. >> What's the question? >> Yeah. The question [clears throat] is, um, >> we do this segment where it's it's a Uno reverse. So, basically, you know, you

Brian Atlasguys you even women who don't do Only Fans have this experience of like I mean, I guess I could ask it this way. Uh, have you had a guy, you know, you're an attractive gal. Has a guy ever just sent you money just cuz?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Like, have you ever feet pics or anything like that? >> No. >> Okay. Oh, guys have asked to send you money, but you turned them down. >> Yes. >> Okay. You've been offered. Okay. Have you has a guy ever just like been a s

Brian Atlasand like, oh, let me buy you an maybe like, "Let me send you Door Dash. Let me send you money." Cash app, Venmo, anything. >> Oh, yeah. I've gotten Door Dash >> by dudes >> one time.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, one time. But was it for Starbucks? Was it like a guy you friend-zoned or? >> No. >> Is a guy you were dating? >> Nope. >> Just who? Just a >> Just a guy friend.

Brian Atlas>> A guy friend. Okay. >> Uh Amy, have you had that experience? Guys just sending you money or >> also declined, but yeah, my message requests are terrifying. I don't even go in there anymore. >> Same girl. >> Okay. I'm assuming you guys you have

Brian Atlasmaybe that >> messages on Snapchat and whatever, but always decline. >> All right. Just curious who has some cash on them right now? Just show hands. Anybody have cash? >> Does anyone carry cash here? >> No cash.

Brian Atlas>> A [ __ ] I was going to see I was gonna a role reversal. I was going to see, you know, maybe once as a bucket list thing that you can just like a little haha as a novelty. You can be like, "Oh, I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to give Brian. >> Give me, you know, money." [laughter] >> Not a pay. >> I'm a poor >> free what? >> I said free pics. >> No, definitely don't want free pics. I'm

Brian Atlasnot into that. But I do uh yeah, I'm a starving college student. It's really hard out here. Starving artist. >> So if anybody has any cash on them and you want to just give it to me, I'll

Brian Atlas>> take some. >> That was me. That was me. >> Whoops. All right. I guess no takers. All right. Tough crowd here tonight. >> I don't >> Hey, it's worked before. It's worked

Brian Atlasbefore. One time a girl gave me like 300 400 bucks. So >> no, it was somebody [laughter] else. Some someone else. >> Are you there? >> Oh, I've had like other girls on the panel. They'll just give me cash when I ask her. >> Did you take it? >> Of course.

SPEAKER_14>> Oh, wow. >> Why should I turn down cash? Where are you going to give me some cash? I'll take it. >> You're right. [laughter] Why should we turn away cash? >> Well, here on the whatever podcast. >> Even if it's dirty money. >> What do you mean dirt? Like if

Cheva>> like if they [clears throat] giving you money for free. [laughter] >> It's not dirty. What? >> That's cash is gang. >> No. If it's like from Only Fans or

Brian Atlassomeone gave it to them and then they give it to you. >> Yeah, I'll accept money from an Only Fans girl. I don't I don't really care. She can give it to me. >> Aren't you a Catholic though? >> No, I'm agnostic. I'm I have

Brian Atlaspro-Christian sentiment though. >> Do you support Only Fans? >> No. >> But you would take money from Only Fans. >> I don't understand. This doesn't even make sense. So if if an Only Fans girl goes to a Christian bakery and asks for uh bagels,

Summer>> No, but she's giving it to you for free. >> Yeah. So I don't care. >> He does not care. He just wants donation. >> It's a donation. >> I don't see how that's >> But you could also argue like I could

Summergive someone money that could give him money and then he wouldn't even know it's dirty money, but it came from me originally. But that's different. >> I'm saying if it's directly, he knows

Brian Atlasit's from your only fans. better in my pocket than this OF girl. What? I guess. [laughter] >> Yeah, she should she should give me Yeah, they should come on the show. >> Should I cash out you? >> I'm probably Yeah, they should give me a

Brian Atlastribute when they uh come [laughter] on the show. That'd be appreciated. But uh Okay. Unfortunately, not fail on that. Complete fail, but I tried. You know, I always like to try cuz sometimes I come away with a bag. >> Have I had cash on me? I get

Brian Atlas>> Let's see here. Okay, so we did allegiance. We did the money segment. Oh. Oh, here's a fun segment. It's called Big Brother Brian segment. >> All right, Mary, I don't need the commentary. Um,

Brian Atlas>> so, okay. Um, often times I think uh men maybe your male friends can't be honest with you about if you maybe were

Brian Atlasever curious about uh something about dating, a question about men, I will answer your question completely honestly, completely bluntly. Not, you know, if you're dating a guy,

Brian Atlashe's not going to give you an honest answer. Probably a lot of your male friends are not in a position to actually be able to uh get this girl a [ __ ] energy drink or something. That's like the 20th yawn. Um me. >> Yeah, you. [laughter] My bad.

Brian Atlas>> Uh get her an energy drink or something. >> She already took one, though. >> Uh so, does anybody have a question they would like to ask? I will give you a completely honest answer. Something

Brian Atlasabout men, something about dating, anything. I will be your big bro and I'll give you some advice. >> Stay bro. >> That's gonna be a no. Okay. What's up?

Diana (Russia)>> So, I have a question. Um, >> I've seen a little shirts of this podcast and you guys talking about body count and things like that. Is that a big deal in America? >> Is body count a big deal?

Diana (Russia)>> Yeah. For for females? It's not in Europe, is it? >> Not really. It's not really >> We don't have that in Russia. Nobody's talking about it. >> I've never heard of that. So, it doesn't matter how many.

Brian Atlas>> No, we're we're very sex positive in Europe. So, it's not really a big issue. >> Yeah. I mean, it depends what we mean by your question is does it ma like do you

Taz>> I'm asking for clarification. >> Uh please repeat. [laughter] >> I think the question is does body count matter in America? Does body count matter in America? Yeah, that's

Brian Atlas>> I mean America is incredibly diverse. So I mean like >> I can't just give you Yes. Every single man in America cares about body count. >> You just said I'm going to be a big bro. I'm going to tell you the truth. >> I >> So yeah, my question isn't in contradiction to your question or my

Tazanswer. >> Maybe she's asking do you care about body count? >> Me specifically? Yeah. But she asking you American men. Uh well conservative white you are. I guess like it depends on the

Brian Atlasstate where you're like most of the men in Miami does not care. >> Yeah. Here I'll I'll I'll >> you big bro. >> I'll try to buy it on the general question. I guess I think in general um

Brian Atlas>> yes I would say in general it is going to be a factor in terms of what men care about. Now I however it's it's a bit complicated. So, uh, I think if the

Brian Atlaswoman is attractive enough, a lot of men, I'd say perhaps even the majority of men are going to give them a pass. A lot of men don't have the same level of abundance and optionality that even an

Brian Atlasaverage woman has. So, a lot of men, they don't have a lot of dating prospects and options. So, in order for you to care about body count as a man, man, you need to have leverage. In order to have leverage, you need to have

Brian Atlasoptions. So, if you don't have options as a man, you're going to kind of just, oh, she's good-looking. She she's not even not even good-looking all the time.

Brian AtlasShe's attractive enough and she's interested in me. Honestly, majority of men, that's probably going to be the standard. Now, should that be the

Brian Atlasstandard? Not necessarily. But if if we saw that men had more abundance, more options, more standards even, then

Brian Atlasabsolutely yes. Uh I think a lot of men, you know, it it basically comes down to uh the optionality component. >> But are you talking about hookup or marriage?

Brian Atlas>> Well, that's different, too. I think most of the guys casual sex, yes, men care less. Men will prioritize it less for like long-term relationship. If their wife, they would care prioritize it more, but even then, I think a lot of

Brian Atlasthe guys have been zeroed out of the dating marketplace. A lot of guys really aren't getting that level of attention. So, like a lot of guys are kind of

Brian Atlasdesperate and they will settle and tolerate a suboptimal situation. They still care about it, but they realize they don't have the leverage to actually exercise the optionality to be selective

Brian Atlasabout it. And also, there's just not enough pool of women who frankly have low body counts or who are virgins or whatever the metric is. >> But in the first place, they would care. Most of them would prefer someone if especially for a wife.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. But whether or not they can get the woman who has a low body count, that's another question. So I think but yes, I think if you were to ask most men, uh yeah, I think most men would say if they

Diana (Russia)could get it, then yes, they would want a woman who has a lower body count. >> Yeah, but u they still treat virgins and young girls really bad, I think. Uh

Taz>> okay, I have a small question. I just wanted to know like did you look up the statistics and everything, right? on what? >> I don't know. I was just asking because you you're like claiming most men prefer

Brian Atlasvirgins and girls with lower body count. So, I was just curious. >> Well, the claim is men prefer lower body count. Yes. That can entail virgin, but I think most I would say most men would it be their preference for the

Amygirl to be a virgin? Yes. But I think most men realize >> why is that like experience? >> Well, America is a Christian country, right? And so biblically obviously men want virgins and I think all high value men would want a virgin or a girl with a

Tazlow body count. >> Go ahead. Finish your >> Oh, sorry. I was going to ask, do you guys believe like both parties should be virgin? Like don't you believe like a virgin girl deserves a virgin? Like I'm thinking about myself personally. You know, if I were to be a virgin, I

Brian Atlaswouldn't want to be with someone that's not a virgin. >> That's Well, look, if you're a a woman who's a virgin and you only want to date a virgin, I'm completely fine with that. I don't have a double standard on it.

Brian AtlasBut I would say that uh women tend to be even women who are virgins are way more forgiving of male promiscuity than the reverse. Women there are definitely women who don't

Brian Atlaswant to deal with or date like a guy who's highly promiscuous or was highly promiscuous or who has a high body count. But that the proportion of women who have that preference is far lower than the proportion of men who value

Brian Atlasthis. And it's for a couple different reason. There's a nurture component, but there's also a nature component. So I think for evocych reasons essentially there's a biological reason for why men care about body count. One of the

Brian Atlasthere's plenty of reasons why men care about body count but I would argue one of the big ones is it's just has to do with paternity certainty. So >> as a man or let me paint it like this.

Brian AtlasLet's say a woman has 10 husbands >> and she's sleeping with all of them. Who's the father >> absent a DNA test? You don't know.

Brian AtlasHowever, if you have a man who has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him, you know who the father is and who the mother is in all instances. So, in this

Brian Atlascase, I I think there's an evolutionary basis for men's heavier investment in a lack of promiscuity uh a lack of either past or current promiscuity in women

Brian Atlasbecause it has to do with paternity uncertainty. women, if you get pregnant, you know, you know your uh paternity or not, excuse me, not paternity, maternity in this case is guaranteed in all

Brian Atlasinstances because you if you have the kid, that's for sure your kid. It's one of the biggest L's a man can take in life to uh be with it's it's not just

Brian Atlasthe infidelity. It's uh he's raising a kid that he thinks is his but is not. It's it's a double whammy. she cheated and I'm investing resources and love and

Brian Atlasattention to a child that's not mine. So, it's it's uh men are more evolutionary and biologically invested in this. >> But what if it's not with a kid? >> Huh? >> What if it's not with a kid? Like it's like >> why do women like tall men? Why do women

Brian Atlaslike strong? >> I don't like tall men because I don't like tall men either. >> Oh my god. You women always [laughter] do this. >> You always do this where it's like, well, what about me? No, I'm speaking in generalities here. So for example, is it

Brian Atlaswrong for me to say humans are born with 10 fingers? Is that incorrect for me to say? Now are there some people who are born with another digit, another finger? Yes. But it's not incorrect as a general

Brian Atlasprinciple to say humans are born with 10 finger. You guys always want to do this thing like >> that's a different topic. That's a total different topic. >> Yeah, it's a What was the original question over here? >> Um it was >> or was yours what if there's not kids

Chevainvolved? Yeah, I'm saying like and it's very it's like a flex for guys to have a higher body count and for a girl it's like she's like a [ __ ] you know? Like it's not on the same level. >> Well, I mean that's another thing. So

Brian Atlasfor a woman to be a [ __ ] incredibly easy. Any woman could be a [ __ ] >> Uh in order to be a [ __ ] as a man, definitely not every guy can be a [ __ ] There are men who are incelss. Women

Brian Atlascannot be involuntarily celibate. So it takes either a certain degree of status, attractiveness, looks, money, or charisma for a man to be able to get laid. >> So just because it's harder for

Brian Atlas>> get laid a lot and yes, it's harder for men to get laid. Whereas for a woman, you can be like severely unattractive, as long as you're making yourself sexually available, you'll get takers. You go on Tinder, you put a sign around

Brian Atlasyour neck saying, "Uh, [ __ ] open for business." [laughter] Even if it's crass as [ __ ] Even if it's crass and gross, if you put a if you just have a sign uh

Brian AtlasDTF, you will get takers. >> So why a guy so desperate? >> I even think you could put like a like a above average looking guy doing that. No women are coming up to him

Brian AtlasDTF like that. >> Like they're not doing that. Maybe like look I could think of like you know maybe there's some scenario where it could happen but at least I would say it it would be really rare and it would

Brian Atlasdefinitely not be at the frequency with which if a woman was doing that she puts a sign that says DTF uh within an hour of being out she's got like >> But isn't it the guy's fault cuz they're so desperate?

Brian AtlasLike they don't care about >> Well, yeah. The guys are the are are willing >> at fault with it then. Well, that doesn't change the fact that so in terms of why it there's this double standard that exists. I don't

Brian Atlasthink that that would change regardless of who's to blame, so to speak. Uh yes, I would agree. Women tend to be more selective. Uh I I I don't disagree with you there, but

Brian Atlas>> it doesn't change the fact that why the double standard exists. So y'all women, it's easy for you to be a [ __ ] It's hard for a guy to be a [ __ ] >> That it's easy for both. Really? >> No, it's not the same.

Diana (Russia)>> Wait, let's check this out. Let me test this right now. Hold on. Let me test. How can I test this? Uh, >> don't ask why. Why? You're gonna spit some bars. [laughter] >> No, I like um Did you hear what Andrew Tate says once that women born with

Chevavalue? So why why are you using the word [ __ ] >> I don't think I >> women because women are very emotional. So in order to become a [ __ ] they have to like

Chevadisconnect I would say more their emotions. And guys are more into physical >> but like nowadays guys are not so emotional either >> but not as not like women. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> They can turn it off very easy. But

Amy>> I mean even that's why Judaism is passed down only through the mother. Correct. Because going back to what Brian said, the paternity cannot be guaranteed. That's the only re That's why Judaism can only be passed down through the mother.

Brian Atlas>> Makes sense from an evolutionary and biological standpoint. But but you you think that it's just like easy for for [clears throat] guys too or >> I think it goes both ways if >> like I I understand

Brian Atlas>> you're going to if you're a guy, if you're a girl, you're going to find a way to go and [ __ ] people. >> So I I'm not saying that >> I'm not saying that men have zero access to hookup culture. I'm not saying that

Brian Atlasthere aren't men who can just go to a party and just get laid. It definitely happens. I mean, in order for women to do it, there has to be a counterpart. But what I'm saying is you can take an average or even below average looking

Brian Atlaswoman, put her on a dating app and she can get like any single girl here at this table, you could download Tinder right now. You could get laid tonight. I think you put even like a above average

Brian Atlaslooking guy, maybe even a really studly dude on a dating app tonight, >> I don't know. It's he's going to take it's might take him a little it might take him a minute to get it. But I think that >> I look ultimately I think you have an

Brian Atlasaverage looking girl below average looking girl they can get sex super easily. You you >> are you familiar with the phenomenon of incelss? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> So incels stands for involuntarily celibate. So basically despite efforts like you you're trying to get laid you can't. This is a phenomenon

Brian Atlasonly witnessed in men. Only men can be involuntarily celibate. Uh you might be able to say, "Well, there's a woman who's a parapolgic and she's like the ugliest woman on earth and she lives uh

Brian Atlason a deserted island." Under this circumstances, a woman could perhaps be perhaps be involuntarily celibate. Although, if she had an internet connection, some [ __ ] [snorts]

Brian Atlasshowing up in a boat [laughter] and down to [ __ ] But like ultimately, um I mean, here I can test it out really quick. We got some single women. Um, after the show, do you want to have sex? >> No. >> With me? >> No.

Serenity>> Oh, okay. >> She's a child. >> Do you? >> Yeah. Excuse me. >> She's Wait, she's 19. She's an adult. >> Yeah. But like, so I feel like it really depends with the group of people you're going to for a guy.

Brian Atlas>> Like as a guy, it depends on like the the type of girl you're going for. >> Go for someone who's your at your level. Oh, I'm totally fine with age gap relationships, but I'm more so doing

Brian Atlasthis as a rhetorical question. Uh, well, >> I don't know if I would have [ __ ] it, whatever. [laughter] Handle me. >> I'll ask it >> after the show. After the show, my god, I disdain almost asking this. And I'll only ask it to the single woman in here. After the show, would you like to have

Brian Atlassex? >> Sure. Let's [ __ ] [laughter] >> After the show, Bella, um, after the show, would you like to have inter sexual intercourse? Carninal knowledge. After the show, would you like to uh what about you? No.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, so look, I just propositioned four or five single women. Look, I I didn't, you know, I mean, obviously she's trolling, but >> she's not trolling. >> The feelings mutual, by the way. The

Brian Atlasfeelings mutual on that. [laughter] Um, >> and just to be clear, that was not a genuine proposition. Don't be offended by the looks maxing culture has come from. Are you familiar with this, Brian?

AmyLooks maxing clvicular. I mean, guys are literally going to such extreme measures to increase their attractiveness that they are literally taking hammers to the face and they're hitting their face enough to create these micro fractures

Amyin their cheekbones and in their jaw so that it regrows stronger. And this is a growing phenomenon that used to be kind of small within like incel and black pill communities, but it's been recently popularized by this individual called

Amyclvicular. And now a lot of guys are going to these very extreme measures. They're getting leg extension surgeries to be taller. They're taking hams to the face. They're taking meth like crazy. >> Yeah, but women have been doing plastic surgery. >> Yeah, I was about to say that. Girls are doing

Summer>> I feel like the men are doing it on on a different level instead of just going and getting surgery. These guys are taking meth so that they're starving themselves or like smacking their jaws with hammers instead of just getting surgery.

Amy>> And and honestly, to a degree, I understand it because women only usually date across or higher. And to Brian's point, a lot of guys are incelsselves. I mean there are whole communities that are based around this notion

Brian Atlas>> that's men do have to have a higher value to be able to take on more partners. >> No completely. >> Yeah. Like let me ask you so you you probably go to college parties and stuff. Uh so look I acknowledge that there's definitely going to be hookups

Brian Atlasand people are going to be hooking up. But I think what the phenomenon you're going to see is typically the guys who are successful when it comes to you know getting getting casual sex. Uh and we actually see this there's data on this

Brian Atlasfrom the dating apps. Basically, you have you have the majority of women all chasing after the f top five 10% of guys on dating apps. And we also see this

Brian Atlaseven in real life absent the dating apps. You you know if you put on a speed dating event uh by the way this is why men don't go to these like lame speed dating events cuz it's a massive

Brian Atlashumiliation ritual for 90% of the men. you go to these speed dating events, like the women will be eyeballing, let's say there's a 100 men, 100 women, they're going to be hyperfocused, the

Brian Atlaswomen on like four, five, six guys there. Whereas like say there's an equal distribution of the men's assessment of the women's attractiveness. They the guys will be like, "Oh yeah, 50, 60 of

Brian Atlasthe women were attractive. I would date her." Whereas women are way harsher when it comes to their assessments of men. They'll be like, "Ah, there were like two or three guys I liked." And so you see this playing out in the real world,

Brian Atlastoo. Basically, women uh find like the vast majority, I guess I'd put it like this. Most men find most women attractive. Most women definitely don't find most men attractive. Would you

Serenityagree with that? >> No, I would agree with that. I It's on your standards. It's how you have your standards. >> Sure. But in this case, I think that

Brian Atlaswhile you do have like a small percentage of men who are hypersexual, who are engaging in hook hookup culture, you basically have groups of men who uh maybe occasionally they might get

Brian Atlassomething, but for the most part, uh most men, yeah, they're they can't really have access to the hookup culture. Whereas I' I'd paint it like percentages. I

Brian Atlasthink here I'll just be a bit conservative. If I think it's 100%, let's just say 90% of women have access to hookup culture. So, I understand, just to be clear, when I say access, I'm

Brian Atlasnot saying that 90% of women want hookup culture or want to just have casual hookups or [ __ ] whenever they want, >> but they all have the ability to do it if they wanted to.

Brian Atlas>> Like, I'm sure you you guys are friends, you guys go to college, you're both attractive. Um, I don't know if like younger guys if they're approaching women as frequently as they used to

Brian Atlasyears past because of social media, dating apps, social dating landscape kind of sketchy a little bit, but um I'm sure you guys have a lot of options. I

Brian Atlaswould assume. Um, so I think 90% of women, you know, >> what's that? [laughter] >> Nothing. >> Okay. I think uh you basically would

Brian Atlashave just an abundance of options, but I'm sure you're not you're rejecting probably a lot of guys, I'm assuming. >> Oh, is that a question? [laughter] >> Yeah, sure. Why not? >> Um, I mean, I haven't really [clears throat] been here for that long.

Bella (Chipotle)I haven't really gone to that many parties, but I would say I I think there's >> I mean, I wouldn't say I would would reject like there's been like guys aren't going up to us and being like, "Hey, like let's hang out. like, "Can I

Serenityremember?" It's more so like >> they start like slowly lingering like [laughter] >> and then rejecting them is just like kind of lingering the other way. >> I feel like it used to be like way more prominent of like guys going up to girls and like being very blunt, but they

Brian Atlasrealize that that probably does not work. >> So, got to find other ways. >> Well, I think there's a component of men don't have to uh approach in person now because because of social media and

Brian Atlasbecause of dating apps. they have a different avenue. Like being rejected on a dating app is pretty much a nothing. Maybe for some guys it stings a little bit, but it's so far separated that it's

Brian Atlaslike whatever. Whereas most men probably are most men are very uncomfortable with the idea of approaching a woman in person and being rejected in person. And also the stakes are way higher now. It's just like, okay, she's going to make

Brian Atlassome TikTok. Oh my god, this creepy guy [ __ ] approached me at Trader Joe's now. [laughter] And like the stakes are higher now. the social uh stakes are are quite high. So >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> True.

Brian Atlas>> Um but in any case, I look I I have to disagree though that uh there are men who do engage in casual sex or who have access to hookup culture, but really I think you have maybe 5 10% of men who

Brian Atlascan do the hookup culture stuff. The rest get nothing or they get relationships and then 90% of women if they wanted to could be [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> If they wanted to. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Agree. Y

Brian Atlas>> I mean, look, I've you can do the experiment. There's a whole bunch of ways you can do the experiment. You could wear a sign that says DTF. You send a girl out. You send a guy out. Then they could be equivalent in terms of their looks and the girl, let's say

Brian Atlasyou send out two average looking people. The girl's going to be bombarded. Uh she'll probably get dozens of propositions in a day if she's out there for a couple hours. The guy's going to stand there looking like a complete

Brian Atlas[ __ ] idiot. Um, also I understand that like guys don't approach as much as they used to in years past, but I would say that if you go to a party or a bar or club, uh, as a guy,

Brian Atlasno girl's coming up to you. Like if you're at the club or bar just, you know, not being a weirdo, but just hanging out, >> no girl is going to be like, "Oh, hey." Girls don't really shoot their shot like that. Again, I understand sometimes they do,

Serenity>> but >> sad. You sad. >> Why? If you find a cute guy, shoot your shot, girl. >> You should have. >> Have you ever shot your shot? >> Yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> I feel like he has to like What's your line? What's your go-to?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, I just got to like roll with it. >> I have a good one. [laughter] >> Girl, this is what really quick before I have you do it. This is how girls shoot their shot. All right, you ready? >> Let's hear it. >> I just did it. >> True.

Bella (Chipotle)>> Well, it just like glance at you like for one second and then that's shooting their shot. >> Let me give you guys a great way to approach someone. Okay. You go up to them and you go, "Oh my gosh, I think I've seen you before. Like, how do I know you?" And then it starts to get

Brian Atlasstarts flowing and it just works. Just got to dip your [clears throat] toe in the water. See how it's flowing. Yeah. >> And Brian writing it down. [laughter] >> Taking notes here. Taking notes. Well, really quick, I wanted to uh come back

Brian Atlasto this. Um because it came up while we were talking about this. Um Okay. Okay. So, you object to age gap relationships then? >> Cuz when I I mean I was doing a rhetorical segment when I was

Brian Atlaspropositioning you, but you're like, "Oh, yeah. Stay in your lane, Brian." >> Um, but what would actually be uh like, for example, a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old, would you object to that?

Serenity>> Um, no. I mean, my sister's like in her 20s. She's dating a guy in her 30 in his 30s. So, >> me too. You you seem to have like a >> I mean it depends on the two people. I feel like

Cheva>> I mean there's definitely there could be like a maturity age gap. >> I mean I feel like >> I thought women mature faster than >> like our frontal >> lo That's why if a guy is like 10 years older it's not such a big deal. Like it is but it's not like as if the woman is cuz normally the woman is normally more

Chevamature. >> Yeah. >> Also uh like look let's just be honest. Actually never mind. [laughter] >> No say it. >> We love being honest. >> No. Well, look, I mean, there's a again

Brian Atlasevolutionary biological basis for this. Men are typically going to find women between the age of like 25 to 18 that age range as just more physically attractive. >> Damn. >> Do you think I feel like >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> older men find like >> by the way, just to be clear, like women in their late 20s, 30s still can be or are very attractive, >> but I think if you ask most men, they've done they've done studies on this. Uh,

Brian Atlas>> I think it's just the youth, but >> they're biologically attracted to have babies. >> Fertility. >> Yeah. Actually, I feel like there's a lot of guys that have mommy issues and they like like 40-year-olds. >> Yeah, [laughter] that's true. >> Well, yeah, sure. There there's also

Brian Atlasthere's also uh men who date older women and Yeah. I'm not saying like I don't like these people who are kind of ex more extreme about it. They'll say, "Oh, the women once they are they're expired

Brian Atlasgoods." I think first off, I think that's a bit insulting to older women. It is. Uh, and I think it's just I don't think it's actually true. I think women even in their late 20s, 30s do mostly fine dating. Some some encounter issues,

Brian Atlasbut I think it's a bit of a cope. But and also they're they're still attractive, you know, but if we're just like doing an analytical assessment of what men generally find most attractive, I'd say like 20 to 25, 18 to 25. Did you

Amyhave something? >> Oh, I Yeah, I mean over 35, it's like considered a geriatric pregnancy technically. There's a lot more complications that can arise from that. So like you can get pregnant though. >> Yeah. I mean you can get pregnant but it's more likely that there's going to

Amybe complications. And so like even for me and my fiance he's actually a little bit younger than me. >> Um but we plan to begin hopefully honeymoon baby. We want to try to make babies as soon as possible. >> Pump them out. Pump them out. Wait, did

Lisa (Utah)Sorry, you had something or I'm trying to remember. >> Um >> was it somebody over here had something about the age gap? I'm trying to remember. No, you said >> Well, I mean, I don't have My husband and I are only 3 weeks apart, but I don't think there's an issue with it.

Lisa (Utah)Like, it makes sense that >> older men would be attracted to younger women for that reason. My brother is married to a woman that's 12 years younger, I think, than him. And they're very compatible because of like where

Bella (Chipotle)she's at as a human and >> I think big age gaps are only acceptable >> after a certain age. >> 20. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> After 20, >> like somebody like

Brian Atlas>> reaching their 30s >> was like, "Oh, you're 18. I can hit on you. I'd be running for my life." >> Yeah. >> Well, look, I think it it might be a bit peculiar. For example, if you have somebody in their 30s like going to

Brian Atlascollege parties, specifically only trying to hit on 18 and 19 year olds. That >> I mean, >> that might be a bit weird. I I don't think it would be like that. I don't

Brian Atlasthink it would point to him like being like a a a uh >> Pedia file >> or whatever, >> but like it is a little peculiar. But I think you can, for example, you can find

Brian Atlaswomen at 3, like you can find women at 35, 40, 30, 25, 20. You can find women at all these age ranges attractive. I guess here I I could give you example.

Brian AtlasSo I'm 36. If a 19-year-old girl DMs me, so I'm not looking for it. She DMs me and she's hot and she we align on our values.

ChevaCan you make an argument why I should reject her? >> What if she's less um mature than you? Like >> mature, >> she just she's in college or whatever. Like you guys are in very different places in life. >> Different stages of life. So

Brian Atlas>> you going to talk about it so you wouldn't care? >> Uh the different stages of life. if I don't find that particularly compelling. I would also say that um in terms of maturity, uh some of the most immature, by the way, just to make something

Brian Atlasclear, I've dated women who are older than me. I dated a woman who was in her 40s. I've dated women my age, a little younger, a little older. I've dated dated the Smores board [snorts]

Brian Atlas>> experience. Uh, the most immature women I've ever dated that were the most toxic, the most conflictridden, the most immature were women my age or older.

Brian Atlas>> That's why they're still single. >> Yeah, that's [laughter] so kind of >> Yeah, the good ones are locked in already. >> It does play into this idea that look, there are there are good women who can, you know, [ __ ] happens, whatever. uh you

Brian Atlasknow you can there you can find good women in late 20s 30s even older but I think the proportion like the

Brian Atlaskeepers get discovered early >> the keepers 18 19 20 21 22 23 the keep again not universal there's women who

Brian Atlasare keepers in their 30s 20s etc etc >> there's a higher proportion of women who are keepers when they're younger because they haven't been kept yet >> they haven't dated enough to have been kept

Amy>> been kept >> been kept. There's more keepers. >> It's likely, you know, the older you get, the more you've experience, you know, you can have good and bad experiences. The more trauma you have, the more [ __ ] the man needs to deal

Amywith, number one. And then also, I think men kind of they like being able to give their woman their first time experience. You know what I mean? Like they want to be the one to put them in that nice car for the first time um and give them all

Amythese luxurious exper No, it's true. I mean he he has a really good point when he says that men derive a lot of pleasure from that. >> No, I mean it is true. Uh and I I agree with Andrew on this. >> Where's my nice car? >> Said where's my nice car? [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> You're young. >> You're dating college guys. You know it's >> you're not going to find your husband. >> Start dating 30-year-olds. >> It's uh Well, I mean that's one of the reasons I think that some younger look

Brian Atlasalso with the age gap thing. I do want to make this clear. I acknowledge, but I'm not saying younger women should date older men. I'm saying they can and there shouldn't be some sort of weird

Brian AtlasWhy look, people can do whatever they want, but I don't think we should necessarily try to pathize it. But I think that uh I think I can acknowledge like most women date guys around their

Brian Atlasage. You probably date a guy your age, one, two, three years older. Uh and I that's totally fine. But if a woman wants to date a older guy, that's also

Brian Atlastotally fine. And uh in terms of the maturity though, look, I can tell you from my own experience. Yeah. Some of these older women that the most [ __ ] toxic like they don't

Brian Atlashandle they don't handle rejection well. They don't handle breakups well. They do not handle it. And I've had women like you can you can do the nice thing where a lot of guys will ghost a girl. You can

Brian Atlasbe like, you can do the nice thing and talk to them and tell them, "Hey, listen. Um, it was nice going on one or two, three dates with you, but um I don't know if it's the right fit." And you can be nice and polite, not do the

Brian Atlasghosting thing. And I've had one or two older women lose their [ __ ] [ __ ] and make it their [ __ ] scorned woman, make it their thing to want to like I've had women try to ruin my business

Brian Atlasbecause I >> didn't want to keep dating them. Like awful [ __ ] like completely disproportional. This isn't something interesting about some women and some men do this too. I call it going nuclear. So for example,

Brian Atlas>> I don't think you should call people stupid, but if I call somebody stupid, I think you should perhaps insult me back in a proportionate way. >> Yeah. >> So you shouldn't be like, if I call somebody stupid, you probably shouldn't

Brian Atlasbe like, well, I hope your parents die. That seems disproportionate. You know, in that same vein, I've I've rejected women. And when I say reject, I'm not like, "You suck, bitch." No, it's like

Brian Atlasvery polite. I don't ghost them. I communicate. They lose their [ __ ] [ __ ] And they're like, "Oh my god, you wasted my time." I'm like, "We went on

Brian Atlasone date, two dates. Calm down, lady." >> And so, um, so they go nuclear. I don't know. Maybe you guys have had a situation. I think it depends on

Brian Atlas>> with like a weird stalker creepy guy who maybe you gave him your number and now you got a stalker and it's like that go nuclear thing guys do it too but

Diana (Russia)>> um I think it depend depends on person have you heard about Army Hummer the actor how the >> yeah I know about him >> like he get cancelled in Hollywood lost

Diana (Russia)all his contracts jobs he was extremely successful actor army hammer her and the girl accused him like he's raped her or something like that

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