KICK OUT AND RAGE QUIT?! 70+ Body Count At 21?! She Is In LOVE With A Fkboy?! | Dating Talk #207

Date: 2024-10-23

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

AAlex Paige Moore >

LLouisa (DT207)>

DDestiny (DT207)>

VVera (St. Lucia)>

VValentina Sumski >

LLiam Christopher >

Brian Atlas

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Alex Paige Moore(guest)

SPEAKER_04Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elena Smyra(guest)

SPEAKER_06Rey(guest)

SPEAKER_07Background(audience)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_10P(guest)

SPEAKER_11Valentina Sumski(guest)

SPEAKER_12Vera(guest)

SPEAKER_13Louisa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Production/Music(audience)

Key Moments

OtherLouisa reveals a man set her hair on fire on Stockholm subway escalator; attacker targeted 5 women, was arrested, trial upcoming

“I just see smoke coming up behind me and I turn around and then the man was just standing there... he did it for five girls”

OtherP found another girl's black lace panties at her fboy's house and wore them on her next visit to provoke a reaction

“I go over there and it is a pair of panties you know what I did the next time I saw him I wore them I wore them”

OtherP reveals her friend invited 5-6 Tinder guys per day to their Lake Tahoe cabin during a girls trip, and P had a threesome with one of the guys and another girl

“I planned out a girls trip to Lake Tahoe... my friend decides to go on her dating app and invites like six guys like every single night over”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round: Alex 8/4 (with/without makeup), Rey 7, Liam 5, Vera 6 then 9-10, Valentina 9-10

“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10... with makeup an eight without I'm like a four... solid seven... a six... I'm a 10”

ControversyValentina and Brian clash over her 10/10 self-rating — she says "you don't even know me", Brian pushes back; she gets louder, says "I'm Latina, I speak loud"

“you're saying I'm being passive aggressive okay I'll be more direct not a 10 not a 10 not a nine... I'm Latina and I speak loud and that's it”

ControversyUnidentified "Ginger" guest kicked off show for attempting to dox Brian's location during self-rating debate

“I had to kick her out because she was about to dox... she was literally about to dox I would have shown it but we had to just kick her out”

ControversyValentina rage quit after Brian refused to validate her 9/10 self-rating and pushed the makeup removal

“the chick who got triggered cuz she's a nine she wants to leave too... she was offended by that implication that I didn't agree with her looks rating”

QuoteBrian states he will not date a sex worker as a firm personal line: "I will not date a sex worker point blank period"

“I will not date a sex worker Point Blank period”

QuoteVera reveals she charges $5,000 for in-person meetups with fans

“if someone wants to [bleep] me and they write out that they want to have sex with me that is the price $5,000 that is the price for the a meet up price”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Relationship Statuses

All guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Liam also introduce. Relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom. P's 8-year fboy situationship, Vera's "single until married" philosophy, Rey's 2-week breakup, Valentina's 5-month situationship.

P's Fboy Situationship Deep Dive

Extended discussion of P's 8-year on-again-off-again situationship with a Santa Barbara fboy (SPEAKER_10). They met in high school via Instagram DMs at age 15. She is in love with him but won't ask for commitment. She found another girl's panties at his house and wore them back to impress him. He calls her babe while seeing other women. Panel debates whether she's dickmatized/brainwashed.

Rosters, Threesomes & Sexual History

Panel discusses having multiple people at once (rosters). Rey reveals 3 threesomes in one day (same couple each time). P reveals a threesome at Lake Tahoe during a girls trip where a friend invited 5-6 men/day from Tinder. Brian and Liam discuss the asymmetry of sexual optionality between men and women. Swedish dating culture (hookup culture) with Louisa.

Dating Advice to 15-Year-Old Self

TTS-prompted question for each panelist. Alex: "don't be a doormat." P: "be kind to the shy guy who may not be around much longer." Rey: "listen to your mom." Louisa: "don't pressure yourself, everything will be okay." Elena: "they're not always telling the truth." Vera: "nothing is ever that deep." Liam: "hang in there skinny rat, you're going to be a jacked multi-millionaire." Brian: "don't date women with mental health issues."

HPV Debate

Rey insists you cannot get HPV from oral sex on a woman, sparking a long factual debate. Brian and Liam cite throat cancer links. Rey eventually admits some transmission routes but resists conceding fully. Humorous TTS comments about koalas and flannel.

Self-Rating Round & Kick-Out Incident

Chat asks guests to rate their own looks 1-10. Alex: 8 with makeup / 4 without. Rey: 7. Liam: 5 (6 with tequila). Vera: originally said 6, corrected to 9-10. Valentina: 9-10. Brian implies he disagrees with the high ratings. An unidentified "Ginger" is kicked off the show for attempting to dox Brian's location. Valentina rage quits after Brian will not validate her 9 rating + makeup removal confrontation. Two guests removed from set (~2:38-2:43).

Sex Work Debate: OnlyFans vs Traditional Work

Extended multi-hour debate on sex work, predominantly between Brian/Destiny/Elena vs Vera (St. Lucia OnlyFans creator). Vera argues sex work is a valid business with passive income, attacks hypocrites who watch porn. Brian says he would not date a sex worker. Destiny argues sex workers are degenerate. Vera counters by citing her Caribbean background, poverty, and financial independence. Vera charges $5,000 for in-person meetups. Discussion of OnlyFans marketing, passive income, and spirituality (Vera's parents are Baptist pastors). Vera admits sin but argues everyone sins.

Women Initiating / Who Pays

Debate with Louisa about whether women ask men out at equal rates in Sweden. Louisa argues attractive women do ask men out. Brian points out statistical disparity in initiation rates even in feminist Sweden. Discussion of who should pay on first dates.

Body Count Round

Brian asks body counts around the table. P: 50-70 (lost count, probably around there). Liam: ~300. Rey: did not disclose. Others: various. Vera: started OnlyFans at 18, had 3 before, ~20s after. P reveals she had a "party phase" where body count grew rapidly by age 19.

Man vs Bear Debate

Brian asks the "would you rather be in a forest alone with a man or a bear" question. P chooses bear (men have hands, can set traps). Louisa chooses man in US/Western Europe but bear if the whole world — cites unsafe countries and her own experience of being set on fire in Stockholm. Vera says she'd choose bear so she could kill it for fur. Brian challenges the premise.

Sugar Daddy Stories

Brian asks remaining panel about sugar daddy experiences. Elena: one dinner via SeekingArrangement ($200), felt bad, quit. P: met a recently-separated wealthy man on 4th of July, 3 meetups ($500+ each + thousands in shopping), stopped after he asked her to travel. Has his own hangars, float plane, yacht club. P stopped contact after fearing for her safety.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasSweden Stockholm has become so unsafe yes I'm sorry yeah it's tragic okay um and you said in your you sent a

Brian Atlasvoice memo that you [Laughter] promised that you promise that you are more interesting and more fun than the 5 million other Swedish

Louisagirls no because in the beginning I tried to sell in that I was Swedish and then I tried to sell in that I was a little more funny than that I

Brian Atlasguess yeah okay um and then uh you said you uh you work in

Brian AtlasHospitality you're a night receptionist okay uh you said your friends call you the worst booty call because you get to the guy's place and then you go to sleep and then the day

Louisaafter he drives you home so exciting yeah it's true but yeah I don't know if that's something else that I'm drinking too much alcohol

Brian Atlasmaybe having a bit too much fun so you've never actually gone through with like a one night stand or yes I have yeah oh but the question were like do you have any

Louisalike because you asked a question like do you have any different or exciting like dating stories yeah you just pass out once you get to the

Louisabeautiful all right you said um dating culture in a country without religion okay Sweden doesn't have a religion do you want to elaborate no I mean like the debate not debate but

Louisadiscussion about it we're not really religious at all we very yeah liberal I guess you guys drink that's the religion a little too much yeah we do and we live for the week and

Louisagetting sled Rel no but okay so when date in a relig like as a religious person or anyone of

Verayou have not me believe it or not yes me I'm religious and Brian you as well right are you Christian no not really okay not

Louisanothing okay do you have a point no no I'm just asking because the difference between when you're dating as um in a a religious way then it's you have a goal

Louisaand like a way to go but when you don't date in that direction are you with me do you think I'm so then it's like what's the reason how do we stick together and the next and the next yeah

Brian Atlascuz you have a foundation of what you kind of want to build your relationship off of which I understand and I get yeah all right you said um how hard it is for a female to be taken seriously in

Brian Atlaswork environments because you can feel a man's tension over you how you as a female need to work from your [ __ ] power and how to use this to your favor

Louisaum so I'm I'm often in like events like working events I don't know if you call them like mingling is that a word mhm yeah mingle yeah and then you want to

Louisayou know sell yourself as a in your occupation and what you're doing and often between men and female you come UPS of flirting and then I were one one

Louisasituation when a guy was like yeah the guys out the only one who can stay is Lisa because you're so [ __ ] sexy and I was like oh okay but this is work and yeah you see what I'm trying to say I'm

Verajust blabbing around mhm I think you're so cute you are I don't know if that is a compliment it is thank you isn't this like Swedish print or am I like tripping like the red and white I swear to see

Veralike a l of Swedish German yeah maybe german yes German so I should be holding the beer that I just spilled I think you need like a picnic basket or a beer not

Liam Christopherthe beer mugs or is that Irish I would say beer mug what beer mug October Fest I apologize to spilling the drink i a c and aent I did it last time that's

Brian Atlasstress so what was the thing about yeah so when that happens hard for female to be taken seriously you mean in the most feminist egalitarian country that there is yeah so in that environment when it's

Louisalike yeah the guys know but loua you can stay because you're sexy and it's like okay but I don't want to stay because I'm sexy I want to stay because I'm intelligent valuable yeah exactly what

Louisawas the job it was like an um work mingle I don't know how to explain it so it's a company yeah a company inviting a lot of people and then you mingle and then you get contacts and what was it

Louisafor what job no it was like a a lot of different jobs so it's a lot of um like a work Fair yeah so it's a lot of people from different kind of so your boss didn't say that to you not my boss no no

Louisait's was a random one doesn't even work for the same company yeah yeah yeah it's a random guy so this happened one time to you that is just an example yeah but it's an example of because in your nose

Brian Atlasso when that happens sometimes you like okay I go with it because then so was there alcohol involved at

Brian Atlasthis yeah how but oh my God this is how the truth gets totally bent you said in your notes how hard it is for a female to be taken seriously in work environments because you can feel a

Brian Atlasman's tension over you how you as a female need to work from your [ __ ] power and how you use this to your favor so what you're saying not taken seriously in work environments sounds like you were at a

Brian Atlasconvention there was a drunk guy who doesn't even work for the same company so he said something vaguely inappropriate to you so what the event were like people that is working on the

Louisasame feel and then you getting contact you're talking to each other and then just because I was looking at in a certain way I was allowed to be there and not the other guys so they were not

Brian Atlaslooking for our qualities you see mhm I'm still failing to see like so this you had one anecdote of this happening and so is

Brian Atlasthis like you're applying this to all work situations that no maybe not all no okay um you said females are the ones creating beauty standards for ourselves

Brian Atlasand blaming guys for it how you can't even go to the gym without girls being half naked why we're [ __ ] training put on some shorts and a t-shirt talking about me yeah you know

Louisain Sweden it's a big debate right now about H eating U what do you call it dis eating disorder yeah and then dismorphia exactly and people are getting they are

Alex Paige Mooresick and like having problem to yeah I don't know I think they're sensitive sometimes yeah I think you should be able to wear what you want to the gym as long as you're comfortable but I think

Louisathen if we have a big influence in Sweden and she has bulimia and then she operates do surgery on her body and then she tried to

Louisapromote like her beautiful body and all and then I think that is toxic okay yeah and then when we are training it's like of course wear whatever you want but you

Louisacannot come and complain then that it's a so hard for us with the weights do you see what I'm trying to say here yeah I get it yeah uh you said you're missing you're

Brian Atlasmissing that you're not talking about anything that is good with females shaming females are your core topics do you care to elaborate so when I start when I was writing this I didn't

Louisareally watch you enough and then I start watching your show and what I understood now what you are when you are lifting females up is like that you want them to

Louisabe quiet and listen to you and be in the kitchen is that qualities that is right that you like have I ever said that no I'm asking because that is what I'm the picture I got from

Louisait the picture you got is what that you like a female that is home stay home mhm that it's not working M and yeah so I thought for me I would

Louisawish that you would bring up like hardworking females that is doing good by themselves and stuff like that yeah you wish wait sorry repeat that last part you wish that I brought up

Louisahard work what what's the like females that are doing what they want to in life what if a woman wants to stay in that is perfect perfectly fine yeah is

Brian Atlasit yeah of course you think so yeah of course uh so wait I need to combat your accusations here what what exactly are you saying no because when you are lifting a

Louisafemale up that is the example right uh stay at home taking care of children what do you mean when I'm lifting a female up when you are like giving a role model for

Elena Smyrafemales I think a I don't I'm not really following can you think I've only heard you say that you like introverted women which doesn't necessarily mean that yeah I don't think I've ever those

Brian Atlaswords have ever left my mouth that that woman belongs in the kitchen but um apprciate you misrepresenting that's why I'm asking this is why going back to your previous point you I've never said

Brian Atlasany of those things ever this is how dangerous women are you literally make [ __ ] up you literally lie but go ahead why don't you try to actually

Louisaarticulate my position go ahead so for me if I'm going to lift a female up that would be like listening to themselves what you want to do in life what you want to work with start a career and

Brian Atlasstuff like that and would you agree with that what do you mean I don't understand what would I agree that it's lifting a woman

Louisaup to have a career as opposed to being in poverty it's supposed sure yeah or would you

Louisasay that she should stay at home with children or like if you're like okay girls you have a team of girls and you're going to coach them to to do the

Brian Atlasright things in life well I think the I mean there's if a woman wants to pursue a career she can M I think the best relationship

Brian AtlasDynamic is one where the man's the bread winner and the woman is there taking care of the household and the family and the children if she doesn't if a woman doesn't want to do that that's totally

Brian Atlasfine but in terms of what I view as the best relationship Dynamics and the uh what's going to make a relationship more likely to last longer and what's going to be better for the children not what's

Brian Atlasbetter for the woman but what's better for the children yeah I think it's a better Dynamic instead of you being at work and passing on your children to

Brian Atlassome daycare who knows what's going to happen there yeah I think the mother is probably better suited to take care of the children okay then sending your

Louisanewborn to daycare with strangers is that a hot take no I agree you know in in Sweden you got paid to stay home with your child for one year

Louisasure and so so the female and the man can decide who is staying home with a kid and then they get 80% of their salary for staying home and I think it's

Louisapaid up to one and a half year one year and a month you get paid for staying home and then you have daycare that you're paying for yeah but so so that

Brian Atlasmakes it easy for a female to have both I mean I think that we I don't object to women pursuing a career in fact I mean when it comes to certain things like I would love to see more women in The Sciences in technology because I think

Brian Atlaswe should be and I use this word in the most in the best way we should be exploiting women's intelligence so that we can tackle things like uh like

Brian Atlasresearch when it comes to cancer illnesses this sort of thing I'd love to see as many women and men as possible uh pursuing these things so we can tackle uh the things that I think

Louisaare really matter which is uh these illnesses but um if we're talking about dating and I totally agree but it's hard for her to do that if she needs to take care of the children you see if she well

Louisayeah there's sacrifices yeah of course but if you do sacrifice that then you don't have a chance to go and be a scientist afterwards I think you do I

Destinythink I would like to stay home and raise my children but I think once my children go off to school and then I have that open free time then I'm able to kind of go and look and see what I

Destinywant to do to fill that time and then I can be a scientist I can research cancer cuz then I do have that free time when they're at school so how old are you

Destinywhen you at school a child starts preschool prek around four or five years old so I mean you sacrificing four years out of your life I don't see that as a

Destinyproblem to where I know what my child is learning I know where my child is at I know who's watching my child versus is me going out and passing my child off to

Destinya stranger that I have no idea what their background looks like I'm not able to see them how they're playing how they're being treated if another kid went and hurt them and they get in

Destinytrouble instead of the the child who hurt my child I would like to kind of see what my child is doing rather than give it off or pass it off to a dayare child care

Louisacenter yeah I see your point and I I think you go with that but for me it's not really that you're passing your child to a stranger I guess you have a relationship with the daycare and the people working there as same as the

Louisaschool it's the same argument why would you go send your kids to school if they're only strangers of course you have a relationship with the school and the teachers and stuff like

Louisathat so what what is the criticism and the criticism was to lift those kind of females up

Louisathat you yeah why because I think that is important that we do have females that educate themselves and go into fields of science or so should we tell them it's more important than having a

Brian Atlasfamily no I don't think so at all but I think you you should be able to see both sides of it yeah and I think we already

Brian Atlashave that and we have that more than we're s telling women hey h having a happy family having a partner having a husband having children like

Louisawhat do you think Society is telling women more pursue family or pursue career oh it depends a little bit I don't know how it is in America or at

Louisathe states but in in Sweden you get really we get a lot of security and help from the society to have children that helps you and you get paid for having

Louisachildren so I mean yeah okay so that is telling us that it's okay to give birth and have birth right but so what what's your actual

Louisaobjection and the objection yeah I'm just trying to say that is both words worlds of it that we really need to see the beautiful of a

Brian Atlascareer woman as well the beauty of a yeah but I'm more in favor of more traditional uh look I'm not perfectly traditional but I'm more in favor

Brian Atlastowards more traditional relationship Dynamics uh and I I see Society moving away from that and it's more

TTS Readerso Harold donated $100 we always talk celebrate and glorify the working female well ignoring the women that want to be a housewife

Louisafeminism has ruined the lower class women's ability to be a stay at home yeah h well oh well I really think females to

Louisachoose like if you really want to be a stay-at-home wife do it because it's your life but what what is the other stuff about shaming females what um can you read this sentence yeah

Brian Atlasyou said I'm missing that you not talking about anything that is good with females shaming females are your core topics yeah I mean when you talking about body counts and

Louisafemales having uh active life and stuff like that it's you're not lifting that up as as anything normal or like it's okay it's really

Louisamaking like the female be in a certain category like the difference between this guy here who's saying that he had intercourse with 300 people mhm it was

Louisajust okay it is what it is but if one of us was saying that it would be like really not just slide by like

Louisathat what do you mean if I said the same thing mhm you will really be questioning me and why aren't you that doing that with him I

Brian Atlasdon't know she said her body count is uh 50 60 I don't think I really didn't say anything I didn't really no but 50 and 300 were just exaggerating with him

Brian Atlassaying yeah I don't ever remember him saying 300 I think no well in any case uh it was alleged well so I mean I'll engage with you even on that though so um so you're saying if there's a double

Brian Atlasstandard like if I judged women more harshly for having a high body count but I didn't judge men for it yeah what's what's actually wrong with

Brian Atlasthat yeah in my world we are equal yeah who pays on the first aid it depends who asked who out yeah let's let's explore

Brian Atlasthat so uh even in super liberal Progressive Sweden are men still asking women out at higher rates than the reverse oh I don't know the percent but

Brian AtlasI know that it's how about your own experience one more time if I your own your own experience of all the First Dates you've ever been on did you ask for the first date or did the guy no I

Louisahave asked guys out uh that's not the that's not the question okay you asked how many First Dates have you been

Brian Atlason um I I don't really know actually do hundreds Maybe 20 20 okay of the 20 did you ask the guy

Brian Atlasout maybe what can I say seven of them okay so majority men okay so and I'm talking First Dates here not like you've been

Brian Atlasdating for 3 months and oh hey you want to get dinner right so

Brian Atlasum you say whoever I should pay but even in super liberal equal places like Sweden men are still going to be initiators when it comes to

Brian Atlasdating but you do get dates the other way around so if a girl sees a guy that you want to ask out she asks him out okay so let me ask you a question if a guy's

Brian Atlasexperience is he he's been on 100 first dates and 99 of them he has to ask the girl out and one time the girl asks him

Louisaout is that equal no no maybe but it happen once it happens right but I mean just because that example if you take a

Louisaguy if a girl find a guy attractive she will ask him out so maybe your example was not someone that girls want to ask out

Brian Atlasyeah um what I thought you could stay till 9

Brian AtlasLiam yeah we're doing the show we're doing the show man um so a little confused

Louisahere so what I'm trying to say is if a girl find a guy attractive she she doesn't wait for him to ask her out she can ask him out she can but do they yeah

Brian Atlasthey do 100% at equal rates maybe when you find someone attractive they ask them out yes I would wager even in feminist Utopia

LouisaSweden when women are not asking out men at similar rates yeah but maybe not at similar rates but when we do find someone attractive we do ask I'm sure there's a disparity like statistically

Liam Christopherbetween places but um what's um I I kind of came in halfway through the topic so I'm talking out of school a little bit here it is true I see that you don't no

LouisaI was coming to up the bad dating stories that's I promise you I have an example at the hotel the okay yeah go ahead three older guys are sitting in the bar and then four young very beautiful girls comes over and try to

Louisatalk to them and they were have the girls were flirting with the guys and then how old were the guys sorry how old were the men maybe 30s three guys sitting in the bar at your hotel yes

Louisaokay and and then like 18 20 year old girls come in and approach the guys sitting down with them and it ended up when the girls went to the toilet they Snick out the guys left without saying

Brian Atlasanything to but not women girls wow that was uh so I mean you see it is happening and the guys I don't deny that women approach men yes it happens but I like if we're

Brian Atlashaving a conversation I'm going to be talking about generalities here so I would argue even in Sweden generally speaking women are not taking that sort

Brian Atlasof initiative to the same frequency and same degree not as often basically yeah maybe let me ask you a question how many times have you been approached in person

Louisaby a guy M maybe a handful do you go out to bars sorry okay when did you go to college in

Brian AtlasSweden yes did you go to college parties Thursday Friday Saturday oh so we go to a public you go to a bar yeah okay how often how many times do you think you've

Brian Atlasbeen to a bar or nightclub in Sweden oh I don't know how many hundreds yeah hundreds would you say you got approached maybe at least once a night

Brian Atlasby a guy no maybe of those hundreds maybe five times you've been to a bar 100 plus times and you've only been approached

Louisafive times yeah of the 100 but maybe of course more but of uh of course more okay but I because I've been in a bar more than 100 times but you've only been

Brian Atlasapproached five times yeah it's not that often no okay by guys but you have been approached yes okay how many times have

Brian Atlasyou approached a guy in the bar maybe maybe the same amount I'm I don't believe it at all but

Liam Christopherokay I find that um cute questionable but it is true mate I promise you I'm I'm sure I trust you I mean I mean like you seem like you have

Liam Christopherthe confidence to approach a guy I can see you approaching a guy I think Brian's point is trying to say that statistically speaking it's that I would agree with it

Louisanot the norm maybe it's not 50/50 of it but but I see you approaching a dude so yeah with there some

Brian AtlasCharisma um you ever been on a dating app yes and uh do you get more messages than you receive or you send out I mean yes that's true how many messages

Louisado you get first messages maybe 15

Liam Christophera day no when I have the app oh what app have you got Tinder can I ask how is the the pool in Tinder for anyone that's been on have you been on

Liam ChristopherTinder Swedish long time ago long timeo I was not I was I was exposed to some pretty ter I was exposed to the worst of society when I was on Tinder yeah well here while I'd like to ask the other

Brian Atlasgirls then this um so how many First Dates have you been on um by the way first date includes like just hanging out with it doesn't have to be formal like going out to

Alex Paige Mooredinner it could be like I know people just will go over to somebody's house it could be just like a hangout yeah gotta uh probably like five but I've been in like long relationships so yeah I haven't really been on that many and

Pthen so of the First Dates uh did you ask for the first date or did the guy the guy okay and then going to you how many First Dates Hangouts have you been on um I think countless I don't know

Brian AtlasI've been on like a lot lot of dates and like 100 plus probably yeah exactly um uh what was the breakdown in terms of who asked for the date was it you or the guy always the guy I've only asked like

Brian Atlasone guy to you been on only one guy and you've been on a 100 dates yeah 100 plus dates You' only asked that one guy okay what about

Brian Atlasyou how many dates or hangouts have you been on 20 to 30 okay and then of all those what was the breakdown like how many always the guy always the guy asked you okay it's always the guy asked

Brian Atlasalways the guy how many first dates or hangouts have you been on a lot 10 20 50 20 20 okay always the guy what about you what you think into the mic what do you

Brian Atlasthink I think every time the guy asked you but okay uh so because if I ask them I'm most likely not going to get paid how many first

Brian Atlasdates are uh countless can 100 plus 100 plus dates okay how many dates you been on a lot have you really yeah um um and did anyone ask you out uh I've had yeah

Brian AtlasI've had girls reach out to me how many can you scoot your mic back to where it was please you can scoot it to the edge of the table scoot it to the edge very sensitive you got to get like this yeah

Brian Atlasis that great yeah so what was your question did you get invited to a first date I uh pretty pretty rare pretty rare

Brian Atlasbut uh yes I have what do they look like his type were they your type sure yeah uh but pretty rare I would say 99% of the first dates I've been on I ask for

Brian Atlasthe first date and then all the other steps of initiative I also took first message or I approached her first asked for the number did all the coordination

Brian Atlaspaid for the date move things forward from there first kiss further than first kiss pretty much always as the guy you're going to take initiative what do

Brian Atlasyou feel about a girl taking the first tip I don't mind if a girl takes initiative I don't like it when they're like super aggressive about it like if they're like masculine about it like oh

Brian Atlaswant to [ __ ] you want to [ __ ] the only guy but if she's like feminine and she's like kind of cutesy asking me out or

Alex Paige Moorelike that's fine totally fine not an issue if a girl asked you on a date would you pay for it though or if the girl asked you you would want her to pay uh I would probably just still pay can

Brian Atlaswe go on a date can we go on a date no why because you see me without makeup yeah that's that no I mean just you're a sex worker I'm no offense but and you

Liam Christopherare not a sex I'm not a sex worker but what would you doation worker what okay let's let's go there I'm trying to get some positivity

Liam Christopherin this podcast I'm going to get the positivity if it kills me wait so okay uh what does that mean I don't know no I'll I'll engage briefly though

Verawhat yeah I'll do it I'll do it why would why would you not date a sex worker why huh why would you not date a sex worker so you would date a woman that like most women have sex with her for free but you wouldn't date one that

Veramakes men Peay I'm sorry repeat that I said you would date a woman that would let multiple men have sex with her for free but you will not date a woman that

Brian Atlasmakes a man pay for her to have sex with her cuz you said you don't date sex workers but you date like [ __ ] that do it for free when did I say that I obviously you would have to point to something I've said that would actually

Veralead you can I give I just think he's just his preferences for girls not in the industry because the same way was just free so means that the same way they would [ __ ] him for free is the same way they would [ __ ] anybody for free

Brian Atlaswithout nothing is massive levels of cope but so explain elaborate or not please it's just like well you're trying to cope with the fact that the reality is women who are engaged in sex work who

Brian Atlasdo only fans who prostitute themselves in one way or another have a more difficult time when it comes to dating because most men who respect themselves

Brian Atlasdon't want to date women who have yes I agree to disagree yeah there's simps there's simps out there I don't think men should date those other types of women either well they are they're

Brian Atlasfunding our lify too oh I agree there's a lot of men who have absolutely no preferences standards or boundaries well why but why would that be an issue that I just want to know why you would

Veradat a sex worker so you would date a you would date a janitor before a sex worker absolutely I would date a woman who works at a fast food restur you would dat an abortion clinic for person who does abortions over a sex worker right so person who kills babies for a living

Veraover a sex worker would you are you sure you I mean we could have the abortion debate if you want no I said would you would you would you date a doctor who kills babies for a living cuz it makes them money over a sex worker would okay

Brian Atlasno well that is I'll engage in the hypothetical so okay the it's woman who that's that is an interesting hypothetical so female sex worker

Brian Atlasversus a female doctor who's an abortionist H I wouldn't date either

Brian Atlasum that is an interesting hypothetical um hm I would have to think more about that I've never been posed that question that is a good that is a

Veragood question um they're both bad honestly they're both bad [ __ ] would you date a woman who has sex with multiple men because they

Veratell her she likes them and she's going off a personal at the same time no not at the same time but she but she has a body count of five not say I would date a girl who has a body count of no I'm not saying five I said she dates body

Veracount she dates well who knows most girls lie about the body counts but she she dates guys based off of what they tell her versus a girl who's only like taking on guys at a certain price wait

Brian Atlaswould you date a guy who works at McDonald's no I wouldn't who well he's owning it in a corporate office may he a corporate yes I would if he's in a corporate office he's a burger flipper

Brian Atlasno I would not so wait you won't date a guy who flips Burgers but I won't date a sex worker what's the actual objection then so how does sex worker and burger

Veraflipper get on the same level they're not on the same oh somebody who works time one has their time and one doesn't one's a slave to time one has their time and one is they're dating me but um [ __ ]

VeraI'll rescue you Chick-fil-A what's up get you out of the Chick-fil-A but uh so and you agree most men would take a mcdonal worker and um over a prostitute yes well why isn't happening it did

Verahappen it happens all the time not often then a sex worker gets picked up then people are more people are more willing to make sex workers rich and to uplift them and give them loans for businesses strippers cardi B don't act like you

Veradon't know like plenty of celebrities that were sex workers in the past Maryland rro they get big off of that and men are more likely to save them than a McDonald's worker and a Wendy's worker and an Arby's worker no them yeah

Brian AtlasI don't disagree with you that there's degenerate tricks and marks yeah but like because you spend money on a woman you a trick in y Mark liter if they're engaging with a sex

Veraworker and spending money money on the sex worker you're literally a trick so shout out to Donald Trump and the trick is running the country millania Trump she run the country tricks were in the country before yeah we was first lady a

Verasex worker is that she was she was she was just doing adult work she did do adult movies and she ran this country so that puts the degenerates at the top running the what I don't know look I

Brian Atlasdon't know melania's history first lady of the country country I'm also not going to defend like Donald Trump is not like The Shining Beacon of morality when it comes to but country he's running

Verayour country and he has a degenerate at the top do as the first lady the first lady that was a uh the first lady of this country and I don't coign that sh I think no I'm not going to get too political but who's ever vice president right here has attended a couple D

Veraparties too and she's running this country she's a part of running this country as well about Cala I'm not going to call any names degenerates have power just like melan Maro she had power too degenerates have power we're running the

Veraworld what is your point my point is that you said that a sex a sex worker in a McDonald's uh worker is on the same level and we both know that's a

Brian Atlaslife you're right the sex worker is way less desirable really yep so how is the McDonald's worker struggling and I'm not well who's hold on because men are

Brian AtlasDesiring me more than they're Desiring a McDonald's worker I mean wait no no no hold on wait wait let me address the claim let me address the claim so so you're talking about the amount of money

Verayou can make no I'm talking about how attractive I am this is how I live my life your job has nothing to do with your you McDonald's worker yeah and a is is higher than a

Verasex worker okay so we're not talking about looks yes I'm not talking about looks I'm talking about overall morality of morality flipping burgers for a living taking a time say I'm only worth

Vera$8 or an hour to flick Burgers that's how how much I'm worth that's selling your body and either way what you're doing you're selling your body if you're working at Min job if you if you're

Veraworking a minim job you're still selling your body for less money for $6 an hour for $7 an hour for $8 an hour for $10 an hour body all work that is earning less than a sex worker I don't understand so

Alex Paige Mooreyou meaning everyone that is working is selling sing their body I get what you're say so when is it worth it but I just think for men and people that I know unfortunately people lot of men

Verawould probably have less of a problem if I was being a a burger flippers they would have L I've been a burger flipper I've been a Domino's worker I've done plenty of jobs with for only fans and

Verathis is the only job where men have supported me this is the only job where I'm able to have all of my time all of my respect men are literally putting money at my feet asking me to piss and [ __ ] all over them the J whatever you

Brian Atlaswant to call them I like the dejour I love the dejour and theour love me so go where you love that's what I say yeah there's no dispute that a sex worker is going to make more money than a woman who works in fast food I'm not talking

Veraabout more money we're more valued by men men I've never when I was working a fast food job no man ever said no man ever said let me go and pay for your hair let me pay for your nails let me

Verafly you out they never offer that as a I'm on the internet with my [ __ ] out like the word you like to say with my [ __ ] out and they offering Rings they offering to fly me out to Dubai they offering not just to fly me out to pay

Verafor sex so why are they not offering their money to the McDonald's worker and to change their life they are but they are but they're not where I it's happened to me a couple times I work at a bar

Verarestaurant club and your life has been changed and all your popular you are as well but you're working you working at college so how do you have all your time to yourself all your time to yourself means like you've traveled the whole world that you you know shop every

Verasingle day pretty much go to restaurants and you have like a glamorous life because of manm you have that you have to do no work no because I like to gain everything myself I like to work for and

TTS Readerwell met LOL Paladin $22 lady you are so stupid I'd much rather date any woman currently working at Burger King literally every single

TTS Readerone rather than a frostitute like yourself wait he said prostitute he said prostitute block he said prostitute like yourself prostitute

Brian Atlassomething well go ahead thanks for the money go ahead just keep coping for a few minutes keep coping I mean like you know

Veralet's hear the cope go ahead he's saying all men and me as a s worker know the majority of men are lying they say that all the time that they rather have a wholesome woman and as soon as that

Verawholesome woman or a McDonald's worker ain't doing not doing what they want to do then it's on to the next they say I I'm pretty sure the person who said that I'm pretty sure you're like living in your mom's basement you're living up

Brian Atlasunder a woman who probably had to sell your for you to be able to live a lot by the way a lot of you I dis any look I don't know about these claims about Melania I'm completely disavow I

Brian Atlasdon't know if there's any truth to it it's true it's her statements not mine whatever she did adult work she was adult movies and she's running this world which means sex workers Run the World yep do you have any proof for

Brian Atlasthese claims look at up you have the computer what I don't have a computer I can give you a link have a computer going investigate the claims about but in any case continue coping about how men would rather wife up a

Veraprostitute yes men like hoes they love them actually they s they seek out their validation they crave them they value them they're seduced by them and I know

Brian Atlasthis because I am one and I've been living off this well why don't you tell what's the scope of your sex work are you like do you escort no well I just came like you know from a

Brian Atlasthird world country you do boy girl cont content on only have you ever done boy girl content no okay have you ever escorted yourself no you're a sugar baby though yes yeah do you sleep with your

Verasugar daddies the ones that can stand up but most of them can't so she trolling no I'm not trolling I swear to God but if I'm being like honest like in the past three years there's been no sugar Dy that can stand

Veraup a lot of them a lot of the degenerates what you call them are high off of substances and that substances usually affects their health which is better for me that they cannot

Verareally perform which is like it's not a problem I'm not you know upset or anything MH so that's the term of my sex work and so when you say I'm not a 10

Verabut literally my looks it's not me Bing over that's been paying for like my lifestyle it's my face that's been paying for my lifestyle and literally they say like wherever you are in your

Veracountry when you come to California minus it by five but all of like monoco when I've went to Polo games when I've went out you know to different places all these people are also saying I'm a

TTS Readertensor I know H but you the value you put on yourself is how much guys are paying you no Harold can donated

TTS Reader$100 absolutely deluded the only people that are going for you are the same ones that would screw a rattlesnake if somebody held it down a custodian and I will pick her

Veraover for you any day he said his what is who and he will pick her good for you thanks for the money instead of giving $100 like to her like to him maybe you should gave it to her I don't

Veraknow good for you like did you want me to know that it's not going to change my opinion men are still I'm men are still spending money and I love that like no matter what you're saying men say one

Verathing but statistics proves the other only fans made more than Netflix last year so like what are you saying only problem made more than McDonald's probably too porn porn is the majority

Verathe degenerates then why is porn like the most bought most watched thing in the world if it's only full of degener that means majority of the world is degenerates so I don't really know what

Verathat words means degenerous it means explain it to her why don't you explain it to her you're the one using the word no you started off with the word degenerate you

Verasaid only degenerates by myself so explain to what but a degener you're the one using the word why you well I guess a deer is me somebody who is exploiting their themselves or not even exploiting theyel somebody is doing what the public

Veradoesn't like so basically when you're not what everybody else like expects you to be then apparently you're a degenerate they have like a word it's like immoral person someone who's

Veraimmoral basically yeah could be sexually immoral or degenerate Gambler so degenerate means making a man pay for sex is degenerate but making a man not pay is not

Veradegenerate you're like good no that would be degenerate too you're you're an angel you expected to have sex for free but how dare you put a price on it I don't think I would just have sex

Destinywith somebody just to have sex with somebody I think the price that somebody would have to pay for me wouldn't necessarily be money but it would be like time and getting to know where's where's this [ __ ] when you come to a

Veraactions I don't think I think anybody what actions mean you spending money so if it's action with no money involved like is it really it's a nonv valuable action basically it's an action that anybody and everybody could give you it

Verahas no money behind it how is an action with no money valuable value means like money so value can mean emotional value value so that means anybody can like that's what I'm saying so a woman that

Veracan be taken away from a man just because he said or did or made her feel a certain way and she popped her legs open because he made her feel good or he said something good is not so valuable

Brian Atlasthat's worse than being an only fans girl nobody could tell me oh wow you look so pretty or I love to see time with you here let me ask you a question let's do a thought experiment here so let's say you have two women and they

Brian Atlasboth have a body count of five mhm one of those women did not charge the men to have sex some of them were long-term

Brian Atlasrelationships maybe she had one one night stand and the other woman she charged all five of them to have sex with

Veraher which do you think of those two women men are going to be more accepting of me me and I I say this cuz I'm living it literally toal me I don't know how

Veraelse to me because once a man like this is how this is how the economy Works donated $100 you are so wrong I would rather

TTS Readergive Brian a man $100 rather than date to sex worker you en being exploited you'll be farmed for Clips later for

Brian Atlaspeople to laugh at your idiocy and which country this one there's no way this is even the case in where St Lucia you think the Caribbean you think you asking that you you think that

TTS Readeryou're going to have sex of the Caribbean girl for free truth bomb donated $99 thank you truth prostitution is often referred to as the oldest profession indeed it has always been a

Veracommon way for women to make money even in Bible times exactly Jes tells us that prostitution is immoral Jesus hanged around people like me he hang around Sinners hoes and thieves he didn't hang around people

Veralike you he hanged around the degenerates like me those are his disciples because you know why because we were more real and yeah we were more real and less delusional and less

Verajudgmental and those who had the stone and those who have not sinned be thy first to cast thy Stone but his

Veradisciples are how who was marn no it was one disciple only Judas alln magar was a prostitute you're a alcoholic um so if

Louisayou met a 15-year-old girl yeah and she's like okay it's between these two occupations that I want to do be a McDonald's worker if you have if you have a if you have a steady family and you come from a steady country and a

Verasteady family don't go out and like just do something just cuz to make you a money I come from a third world country I come from a a completely broke family there is no McDonald's and so it's like no no no no no hold on I

Brian Atlasgot to correct you here so even people who have broken family or they live in you know they they're coming from poverty you don't have to be a [ __ ]

Verayeah you don't have to still be you can still get a normal job and the normal job that's what I'm saying all my family that have these normal jobs who are they begging to pay their bills the ones with abnormal job who are they begging when

Brian Atlasthey're out out of money the one with the abnormal job with their normal jobs with their real job they can't pay their real bills with their real jobs yeah yeah I'll give you okay I'll give you a question then so a father they're

Brian Atlasstruggling to you know they can't pay the utility bills the air conditioning whatever they can't you know they can't cover the uh utility bills do you think a father would encourage his daughter to

Verabecome a prostitute so that they could cover the utility bills but see I don't have one I don't have a father so right just like a lot of women no I literally just said if you come from a good I

Verathought you said you were supporting your family members no I said if you she asked me would you take tell a 15-year-old worker to work at McDonald's or be a sex worker I would tell you to work at McDonald's if you don't have to like lower your like value and be

Veradegenerate don't don't do it for the money I mean I guess okay yes but I'm in a different circumstance I don't have parents so I'm just I'm just trying to provide for my family the best way I can

Veraand I'm trying trying to provide for myself the best way I can but I don't have a family either and I've been on my own since I was 7 and I've had and you're in a first world country that's making the American dollar where there's

Veraplenty of jobs around and there's plenty of opportunities like literally you guys never heard of St L you know why because a lot of you know at first you was like what St l a lot of a lot of St luans a

Veralot of St luans do not get the opportunity to leave St luia it is very hard the minimum wage there is 6 EC you know how much 6 EC is that's like $2 two American dollars busting wasting your

Veratime at what at whatever um Market KFC for what $2 $3 $2 $3 instead of just opening your legs which which one

TTS Readerwould you prer a bathroom with a door/ stall if the answer is yes your own privacy and dignity can be bought with

Brian Atlasmoney disgusting you have so much potential no simps required what did he say uh do you prefer a bathroom with a door stall if the answer is yes your own

TTS Readerprivacy and can be bought with money I don't understand like a door on the bathroom L paladins donated $100 lady you don't have a dad so I'll

TTS Readergive you advice because I'm old enough to be your dad stop being a sex worker s Lucia has a KFC go apply to find learn to respect yourself thank you

Brian AtlasL Palin thank you vector by the way L pin the the trigger for your special thing is is available at 1002 um thank you so okay let me ask it one more time

Brian Atlasokay so a man has a choice between two women two women mhm both have the same body count of five one of

Brian Atlasthose an old man gave me the best advice on how to deal with women like you walk over to the window stick your blank stick your D in the window sill and slam

Brian Atlasthe window shut it would be less painful good for you thank you Harold appreciate it okay here's the scenario two women oh there's another one coming in so I have to oh

Verathere's three coming in oh my all right I got to pause temporarily I'll just let them come some money yeah I'm so glad I am like really so happy for your advice thank you from all the people that have parents stop Sonia there really isn't a

Brian Atlasmorally good reason to be a [ __ ] I'm a woman too but I'd never stoop down to your level I don't s old D to pay bills also I'm I'm also from Jordan move to us poor family all that that's from Sonia

Brian Atlasthank you Sonia appreciate it appreciate it TTS doesn't work if there's like any bad words or whatever so uh but I'll just read it so we have another one

TTS Readercoming in last one coming in here thank you calling donated $100 I would just like to say I would

TTS Readerrather hang out with Brian than you keep my name out of your mouth peens go there

Brian AtlasH that's Jesus I mean take the L take the L I guess I appreciate it that um so you're trying I think you're trying to justify that sex work is more desirable in a partner yes no

Brian Atlasnot not in a partner not in a partner over certain jobs than others yes wait so you're saying being a stripper is being a stripper would rather date a stripper than a girl who

Veraworks at a fast restaurant you [ __ ] know you know you who are you pointing to plenty of men rather dat a stripper plenty of men rather dat a stripper than

Destinya fast food worker ones where I think all over the world I think the on so same girl you think the ones what I think the ones that you go after do would rather prefer to have a sex worker

Verathan but I don't go after men they come after me it's not I don't even think those men okay so let me tell you something funny I do on Tinder right let me tell you something funny I do on Twitter Tinder so a lot of men have it in their profiles no only fans workers

Verano sex workers uh no only fans or whatever so I put in my bio that I am an in-house mate and I am not looking for any type well I don't say I'm not looking for any type of sex I'm an in-house made you know I cook I clean oh

Verado you have sex too well I will only hire if you have sex so men don't like willingly to pay for stuff they do not like consensually to pay for stuff they do not want to feel used they want to

Verafeel useful and that's just what it is so whether you do the thing that men don't like to do which is be paid to no you're not understanding you're not

Veraunderstanding so I no instead of coming out no instead of coming out and saying I'm a sex worker they will say oh no um we don't want to buy you but when you say that you're a a wholesome girl they

TTS Reader$100 and2 lady would you date a man that has sex with other men for money if the idea makes you feel gross then you understand what we think about you of course I

Veraunderstand what you think about me you're not getting it I understand but what you think is not the actions that men are portraying they're still spending money no matter what you guys saying yall think why I am why am I in work if what you think is true why am I

Verain work why I'm still in business if what you think is true you're going to know the way do you know the way what does that

Alex Paige Mooremean um okay that was I think paper would pay for things from your o and stuff but the real reality they might not want to date you which is something I have to I don't that though like it's

Verame that doesn't want to date them so like literally every what men tell me and I go this like on my Twitter spaces all the time it's opposite from what they actually do it is the very opposite from what they actually do okay I think

Destinythat there's sick people out there and that there's not sick people out there I think certain people have certain desires and the ones that have desires of paying people to [ __ ] them probably

Brian Atlasgo to there's a king for everything at the end of the day we're going to yeah there's going to be people that want I mean you have another woman she's involved in the industry and she say indry she does well she never she never

Verasaid it she said it right in the beginning I I swear may it was it was an accent maybe I didn't look I don't have she said o o yeah I don't have like some hatred for the these people in this IND

Veraokay that's fine no no I don't believe that you have hatred for them Brian might just not want to date me like like they might I don't think so I'm say I think he's saying that on camera but I think that if he got a

Verachance with you in Sweden especially that he would definitely want to date you I'm wa you were you were shaking your head because you think I would I

Brian Atlasthink yeah yeah it's okay like so no I wouldn't because I know it's surprising to you to ever encounter a man who has a

Brian Atlasb and wouldn't have sex with a woman I know you think all men are dogs and they're just no I don't pred for [ __ ] they're pressed for [ __ ] but no some

Brian Atlasmen have standards and boundaries and preferences and we'll stick to it yeah we've yet it's a deal breaker I will not date a sex worker Point Blank period but

Brian Atlashe would dat a trust me I've had hundreds of sex workers on this show if I [ __ ] a sex worker they would have leaked that [ __ ] by now I have not he probably makes him sign that contract

Brian Atlaswas that contract called when you can't when when you can't talk about what you did I have never even dated I've not dated I've not slept with an only fans girl how would would that do you watch

Veraporn answer the question do you watch porn occasionally sure very rarely degenerate how dare how dare you how dare you s pleasure off of degenerate

Brian Atlashow is that hold on how dare you get off it so I'll actually engage that so here have I watched porn before sure do I occasionally watch it sure but I will say this if I'm in a relationship I

Brian Atlasdon't watch porn I would say my porn consumption is in the bottom like one person why I don't have any reason to I would tell you how many of the men in this like show believe that no no I'm

Brian Atlasnot going to let you shift things around I'm going to address your argument so my porn consumption is probably in the bottom like one I don't know if it's either the 99% percentile or the 1% 1

Brian Atlasperenti would it be the one percentile or the it's very low super infrequent if I'm in a relationship I don't watch porn that's out of respect to my partner and

TTS Readeralso keeps the uh libido a little higher if you know what I mean get excited and well met L Paladin's donated $100

TTS Readerand2 will this panel just got really aggressive and grapy towards Brian these women want to Grape you that's true yeah no means no leave Brian alone we'll

Brian Atlassave him for you I know you guys encounter these guys who are like thirsty and like pressed to get laid and get [ __ ] but the reality is like yeah if you're a guy and you've had any

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