KICK OUT AND RAGE QUIT?! 70+ Body Count At 21?! She Is In LOVE With A Fkboy?! | Dating Talk #207

Date: 2024-10-23

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

AAlex Paige Moore >

LLouisa (DT207)>

DDestiny (DT207)>

VVera (St. Lucia)>

VValentina Sumski >

LLiam Christopher >

Brian Atlas

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Alex Paige Moore(guest)

SPEAKER_04Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elena Smyra(guest)

SPEAKER_06Rey(guest)

SPEAKER_07Background(audience)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_10P(guest)

SPEAKER_11Valentina Sumski(guest)

SPEAKER_12Vera(guest)

SPEAKER_13Louisa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Production/Music(audience)

Key Moments

OtherLouisa reveals a man set her hair on fire on Stockholm subway escalator; attacker targeted 5 women, was arrested, trial upcoming

“I just see smoke coming up behind me and I turn around and then the man was just standing there... he did it for five girls”

OtherP found another girl's black lace panties at her fboy's house and wore them on her next visit to provoke a reaction

“I go over there and it is a pair of panties you know what I did the next time I saw him I wore them I wore them”

OtherP reveals her friend invited 5-6 Tinder guys per day to their Lake Tahoe cabin during a girls trip, and P had a threesome with one of the guys and another girl

“I planned out a girls trip to Lake Tahoe... my friend decides to go on her dating app and invites like six guys like every single night over”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round: Alex 8/4 (with/without makeup), Rey 7, Liam 5, Vera 6 then 9-10, Valentina 9-10

“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10... with makeup an eight without I'm like a four... solid seven... a six... I'm a 10”

ControversyValentina and Brian clash over her 10/10 self-rating — she says "you don't even know me", Brian pushes back; she gets louder, says "I'm Latina, I speak loud"

“you're saying I'm being passive aggressive okay I'll be more direct not a 10 not a 10 not a nine... I'm Latina and I speak loud and that's it”

ControversyUnidentified "Ginger" guest kicked off show for attempting to dox Brian's location during self-rating debate

“I had to kick her out because she was about to dox... she was literally about to dox I would have shown it but we had to just kick her out”

ControversyValentina rage quit after Brian refused to validate her 9/10 self-rating and pushed the makeup removal

“the chick who got triggered cuz she's a nine she wants to leave too... she was offended by that implication that I didn't agree with her looks rating”

QuoteBrian states he will not date a sex worker as a firm personal line: "I will not date a sex worker point blank period"

“I will not date a sex worker Point Blank period”

QuoteVera reveals she charges $5,000 for in-person meetups with fans

“if someone wants to [bleep] me and they write out that they want to have sex with me that is the price $5,000 that is the price for the a meet up price”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Relationship Statuses

All guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Liam also introduce. Relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom. P's 8-year fboy situationship, Vera's "single until married" philosophy, Rey's 2-week breakup, Valentina's 5-month situationship.

P's Fboy Situationship Deep Dive

Extended discussion of P's 8-year on-again-off-again situationship with a Santa Barbara fboy (SPEAKER_10). They met in high school via Instagram DMs at age 15. She is in love with him but won't ask for commitment. She found another girl's panties at his house and wore them back to impress him. He calls her babe while seeing other women. Panel debates whether she's dickmatized/brainwashed.

Rosters, Threesomes & Sexual History

Panel discusses having multiple people at once (rosters). Rey reveals 3 threesomes in one day (same couple each time). P reveals a threesome at Lake Tahoe during a girls trip where a friend invited 5-6 men/day from Tinder. Brian and Liam discuss the asymmetry of sexual optionality between men and women. Swedish dating culture (hookup culture) with Louisa.

Dating Advice to 15-Year-Old Self

TTS-prompted question for each panelist. Alex: "don't be a doormat." P: "be kind to the shy guy who may not be around much longer." Rey: "listen to your mom." Louisa: "don't pressure yourself, everything will be okay." Elena: "they're not always telling the truth." Vera: "nothing is ever that deep." Liam: "hang in there skinny rat, you're going to be a jacked multi-millionaire." Brian: "don't date women with mental health issues."

HPV Debate

Rey insists you cannot get HPV from oral sex on a woman, sparking a long factual debate. Brian and Liam cite throat cancer links. Rey eventually admits some transmission routes but resists conceding fully. Humorous TTS comments about koalas and flannel.

Self-Rating Round & Kick-Out Incident

Chat asks guests to rate their own looks 1-10. Alex: 8 with makeup / 4 without. Rey: 7. Liam: 5 (6 with tequila). Vera: originally said 6, corrected to 9-10. Valentina: 9-10. Brian implies he disagrees with the high ratings. An unidentified "Ginger" is kicked off the show for attempting to dox Brian's location. Valentina rage quits after Brian will not validate her 9 rating + makeup removal confrontation. Two guests removed from set (~2:38-2:43).

Sex Work Debate: OnlyFans vs Traditional Work

Extended multi-hour debate on sex work, predominantly between Brian/Destiny/Elena vs Vera (St. Lucia OnlyFans creator). Vera argues sex work is a valid business with passive income, attacks hypocrites who watch porn. Brian says he would not date a sex worker. Destiny argues sex workers are degenerate. Vera counters by citing her Caribbean background, poverty, and financial independence. Vera charges $5,000 for in-person meetups. Discussion of OnlyFans marketing, passive income, and spirituality (Vera's parents are Baptist pastors). Vera admits sin but argues everyone sins.

Women Initiating / Who Pays

Debate with Louisa about whether women ask men out at equal rates in Sweden. Louisa argues attractive women do ask men out. Brian points out statistical disparity in initiation rates even in feminist Sweden. Discussion of who should pay on first dates.

Body Count Round

Brian asks body counts around the table. P: 50-70 (lost count, probably around there). Liam: ~300. Rey: did not disclose. Others: various. Vera: started OnlyFans at 18, had 3 before, ~20s after. P reveals she had a "party phase" where body count grew rapidly by age 19.

Man vs Bear Debate

Brian asks the "would you rather be in a forest alone with a man or a bear" question. P chooses bear (men have hands, can set traps). Louisa chooses man in US/Western Europe but bear if the whole world — cites unsafe countries and her own experience of being set on fire in Stockholm. Vera says she'd choose bear so she could kill it for fur. Brian challenges the premise.

Sugar Daddy Stories

Brian asks remaining panel about sugar daddy experiences. Elena: one dinner via SeekingArrangement ($200), felt bad, quit. P: met a recently-separated wealthy man on 4th of July, 3 meetups ($500+ each + thousands in shopping), stopped after he asked her to travel. Has his own hangars, float plane, yacht club. P stopped contact after fearing for her safety.

Transcript

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Brian Atlascourse Hees even if she's even if she's uh you know yeah you just like first dat well I was going to say like even if you she's [ __ ] loyal and you know she's she's

Brian Atlasgot a low body count still don't do it but because I'll get to that in a sec but uh it's kind of like uh how do I explain this oh my God sorry one sec brain

Brian Atlasfog so the way the current dating landscape is you got to assume going in when you're meeting a girl that she's sleeping with at least one other guy don't don't hate the don't hate the player that's the name of the game she's

Brian Atlassleeping with at least one other dude can't go down on a girl if another guy's blasting inside her sorry won't do it won't do itum a girl is going to be is like seeing two guys at the same time

Valentina Sumskiand sleeping with two guys at the same time well I got to assume I got to assume that's what he would do that's what he do want suck dick can I ask the question any it's different though wait hold on I got to

Brian Atlasaddress that it's actually different though no it's not different no no no no because oral sex is not one to one because like the equivalent would be like if we were like sucking on your

Veranipple or some [ __ ] what yeah that's the equivalent sucking dick is choking in my throat what are you talking that's like

Reysuck dick it's very different because the woman vagina cleans itself and the part does not clean itself wait bro you oh you exactly oh my God that doesn't

Reyeven make sense hold on that does not even make sense the women's sense and the part does not clean itself it cleans itself even without the period

Brian Atlasand showering on top you ever heard shower you ever heard of a shower have you but what do you find what do you we do shower on top of it yeah yeah but you're not as a woman like you're not supposed to like you can't clean out

Brian Atlasyour [ __ ] it's called a douche yeah but it's not recommended I wasn't born yesterday women aren't supposed to doed

Louisayou don't have to use them though because you don't need them the inside cleans you're not supposed to douche as a chair you're not stop stop stop stop stop one person

Brian Atlasat a time you're not licking the inside aren't exactly yeah I mean the clits there but like a 3 cm below it is where you pee and then a little bit below that

Brian Atlasthe urethra is where you bleed out of and discharge out of and have other guys [ __ ] you you know that a girl is a virgin the guys you know the girl if she's a virgin how many Swedish women

Liam Christopherare virgins but you know that she's that very you would flower you would be a very bad vagina going to come for you for we got one here and that's where it pisses and that's where it bleeds and you can have it if you wanted but I I personally wouldn't be going for it not

Louisathis model oh we got that just a sec just a sec Metro mat yo Metro thank you I want to see what I'm working with but like it's not the same but what do you find sexo atric

Brian Atlasattractive by a woman huh what do you find like attractive trying to ask what would you to yeah but you don't like vagina no I love the vagina about a fan of the vag I'm a supporter the way it

Brian Atlasmakes you feel I'm a supporter hold on you guys don't don't get me Twisted don't twist [ __ ] up I'm a big fan of the vagina huge fan big big F you're a fan of what it does for

Brian Atlasyou what does that even mean I'm a fan of what it do you come you know what it means you know I mean I'm also uh are you single

Brian AtlasBrian I cannot dispose I can't and then you get angry with the female how does that why what hold on I'm getting attacked from all SS first off what's wrong with a what's

Brian Atlaswrong with a guy who doesn't want to go down on a girl first off why would that make me single but then like why what does that have to do with anger at women we're not implying anything because of the I won't need [ __ ] I'm angry no I didn't say that you were angry she's trying to ascertain like what it would

Liam Christopherand correct me if I'm wrong she's trying to ascertain what it would take for you to do the deed on a woman like what would she have to possess in terms of attributes physical or whatever it may be for you a billion dollars who's your

Veradream woman who's your dream woman sometimes that's all we need who's your dream woman dream um you know you're a Dream Woman Dream Woman a

Brian Atlasmute that part your dream woman honestly I there's not I don't I can't think of like a celebrity that like comes to mind that's like Dream Woman Meg Fox sit on

Brian Atlasyour face like old Megan Fox like right now Megan Fox no at her prime okay like what 20-year-old Megan Fox yeah I think she came out like

Brian Atlas1918 no I wouldn't let her sit on my face he has to think about it he's lying it's way too submissive would you like dominant women I don't like dominant women would you

Brian Atlaswhat if you hyper submissive women what is that like a dominant woman like okay so there's two components sexually sexually and like

Destinymore normal personality wise hyper sumissive in both categories what happens if she just doesn't like getting her [ __ ] eaten because sometimes I don't like a lot of women don't like a lot of women don't

Louisalike would you date a girl that wouldn't suck your say who lik exactly on hold on what's your question would you date a girl that wouldn't suck your it wouldn't

Brian Atlasbe a deal so polite how you said it I love it may I say PE it wouldn't be a deal breaker no it wouldn't it wouldn't be a deal breaker no you it would be

Verabetter if she did though of course of course what was your question you dealt with woman who didn't suck penis sure yeah did it last and you got your dick suck somewhere else that's what that's

Verawhat it is he got his dick suck somewhere else no evidence yeah like cuz I said the same thing like no evidence for that if a man doesn't pay somebody else will so like

Brian Atlassame thing with him he got a stuck from so what was your question you had a question what was it that I asked I think so yeah yeah if you would date a girl that wouldn't suck your PE yeah

Brian Atlassure sure there's there's things that are more important than sex in a relationship that's true like anal sex

Brian Atlasthat's why I stick to um Honestly though I mean on that topic uh it's okay I prefer regular sex though

Brian AtlasI mean it's like as a novelty like so no anal for you like once a season like so one time in Winter one time in Spring one time in summer one

Veratime in Autumn your choice or maybe twice in the winter time cuz it's cold your choice or the girl cold what your preference or the girls preference like not to have he likes it

Brian Atlasbut not that much I mean sex which is fine if she wants it we can do it um but I would prefer like I prefer I'll do it as a novelty I

Brian Atlasprefer regular sex though novelty that's what it is it's a novelty you can't be [ __ ] I mean you could be [ __ ] every time even if the [ __ ] is loose you still prefer regular sex that's so I don't believe in L

Backgroundyeah shout out to Santa bra woman what's going on in St Lucio what the [ __ ] that's why they call it St Lu St L St l oh

Veraloose this s a good one they loose in Creole the word how you say s mha you say St Lucy St Lucy yeah yeah luy

Brian Atlas[ __ ] that's crazy that's how they choose the mayor of the town the loosest are you trying to tell us something you got a loose [ __ ] no not me oh okay A friend of mine I wouldn't be from St Lu I

Verawouldn't be in business so long if that was true what if the [ __ ] is loose yeah you still going to prefer the [ __ ] over the ass if the [ __ ] is loose what does that shout out to s

Brian Atlasbarber woman they don't have loose [ __ ] apparently never heard of this wait how tall are you how tall am I yeah how tall are you I'm 5'2 oh okay but like I was

Brian Atlasat like loose [ __ ] the 52 Asian woman what is loose [ __ ] what is this concept that you have brought to the table so

Valentina Sumskiit's supposedly like scientifically proven a woman after giving birth you know it will go back to its original shape but that's like these sayings like

Valentina Sumskiabout how and taboos about how tight you should be and how it's more enjoyable or whatever that's why you do gagles right yes but honestly you don't really

Valentina Sumskilose it lose it like it's maybe after kids or something and you can always but it goes back I've heard men say they lost it lost it like some woman has they lost it too but I mean you you had sex

Louisawith 300 females but you can always that's yeah so you know I mean yeah you know you know I think no for real loose [ __ ] percentage well no honestly 10% no

Veralike one I think it's really low no I've only encountered one that means your dick have to be small because the ones that say do loose [ __ ] have the bigger dicks hang on no no smaller dicks they have the smaller dicks they have the smaller so that

Verameans your dick is big because if you say that no [ __ ] is loose that means that because you're stretching say no to that you're stretching all the [ __ ] is what it is that is true so of

Liam Christopheryour 300 it is true so of your 300 Only One only one loose yeah so out of however many it has been like no there was only one and surprisingly she was like short

Liam Christophercute like look like a little Disney princess and and then I was like this is this is interesting and it was um yeah just I was just I was just I didn't know what to say afterwards so was kind of

Liam Christophershocked shocking but I've only encountered one so you go no I was really nice to her like I was kind I didn't say did you meet her a second time no he's a leveled up man of of

Brian Atlascourse took took my big dick elsewhere I would disclose how many loose peas I've ran into but I feel like I feel like if I did disclose how many

Brian AtlasI've ran into you guys they would extrapolate they do the [ __ ] math so let may get stitched up cuz I was like I said it's a really low percentage so then they're going to be able to very low only counted one they're going to know they're going to know what my body

Liam Christophercount is doesn't matter can I ask when you encountered your loose one what was it like like were we shocked cuz I was shocked personally shocked yeah well sh I I didn't know what to do I was like oh

Liam Christopheryeah I me did you do you come no I think I pretended to come so I could bail you pretended to come oh that's so good get you spat on her I know about pretending

Liam Christopherto come and then would you do what she said would you rather go I'm not going to flip the poor girl over and take the other R very nice why not why not flip spit like that just seems a

Liam Christopherlittle bit like unwarranted you know what I mean it's like if I go into someone's house and I don't like the furniture I don't flip over their table and be like I'm going to start treading on your table now like I don't know if

Pit's really My Prerogative to like flip and switch so yeah no I didn't flip over and switch holes as a as a guy how do you fake finishing because isn't the girl like

Liam Christophertrying to pretty hard I was oh yeah and she's like imag trying to find I know cuz what you do is you well this is what I would do in theory was a man that would do this you go oh I'm going to

Liam Christopherquickly pull out so finish inside like oh wow I can't find the M like oh maybe it's just disappeared you say you had the Snoop what's that can you say you had the Snoop doesn't that mean that nothing comes out no I think something still comes out when you have that

Liam Christopheroperation yeah but I just like oh yeah I pulled out for safety hooray and then and then um she's like oh it's not yeah this is a graphic story but um so yeah pretty much but I was very

Liam Christopherrespectful yeah so I didn't tell her about it I didn't flip her over total gentlemen gentle not doing you pulled out for I pulled out I'm like oh I just finished so you don't use protection

Liam Christopherwell I wasn't with that go because Swedish girl the Swedish girl calm down from coming I was going to say coming from coming from what we call cyia Kingdom over here I'll just have I I've

Liam Christophergot some history with some Swedish women let me tell you I got some history with some koala Birds I got some stuff Swedish girl yeah aalas have chamia where I from I heard yeah what's your history koalas that have strip clubs

Brian Atlasthat is work in the poles yeah it's it's crazy yeah oh the other reason I don't go down on women cuz the koala is apparently apparently uh there's a really big HPV

Reyrisk so you get you can get throat and head cancer if you eat [ __ ] you can get cancer what can you get from I know that I already know that that's not factual that sh it's a

Reydifferent kind it's they're two different kinds herpes HPV isn't herpes HPV and herpes are two different things one is cancer and one is something you get on your face or

Valentina Sumskiwait you have you can be born with HPV yeah you can be born with it HPV yeah there's different strains of H who has the vaccine ladies you get it when you

Louisago you have a vacine so you don't get it your high school but it is true as Brian is saying I just met a guy that actually has cancer from it wait from no it's very rare it's very rare if it is

Brian Atlaspossible but I don't think it is possible from doing the mouth from HPV from Douglas HPV Michael Douglas famous actor he got throat

Brian Atlascancer because he ate too much [ __ ] probably because he suck much dick stop guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys stop for a sec only one person

Brian Atlasspeaking in the time please I know we can kind of make it sense of it when multiple people are talking but there's like five people talking right now go ahead I only know about that because I

Reyhave a doctor in my family who studied traditional medicine oh my God oh my hold

Brian Atlason oh traditional me oh like Chinese traditional medicine no what kind of doctor is he a medical

Brian Atlasdoctor she's a medical doctor PhD that that's literally not a medical does this doctor black oh my God PhD is

Reyliterally not a medical that was her her uh study she was she's a medical doctor and a PhD because she was in honor class

TTS Reader$100 brickson is absolutely right I'm chiming in for J Butler HPV is a carcinogen and can affect throat and tongue too it's true okay uh thank you

Brian Atlasdoc but yeah it's 100% the case the case that uh men are at greater risk of getting throat and head cancer if they eat p wait men are at greater risk yes men are

Reyat greater risk spread by Men by Way stude by she was the highest she was a PhD in her studies as in she was the highest level of her class that's what I mean when I

Reysay PhD what area you said I asked if was she's a medical doctor but a PhD in Med so she went to medical school yes medicine okay she went to medical school yes and she studies she can study in two

Reydifferent countries actually wow per perod and what did she say again she said that you can get she said that it's not possible pretty much

Reyto get cancer from going down to get cancer HPV and cancer are two different things and the one he's referring to is cancer and you can't get you talking about her Peak are you

Reynor I'll let you say your thing but I'm about to destroy whatever you're going to say go ahead normally when they have outbreaks is the only time it can be transmitted first of all and second of

Reyall when they go down on the girl and she doesn't have any outbreaks then he can't get

Brian Atlasanything that's okay so I'll engage with you on this okay so you're talking about two things right herpes herpes simplex

Brian Atlasvirus hsv1 hsv2 there's one on the genitalia one on the mouth I'm not talking about Herpes so let's just put that aside I don't know if there's any cancer ramifications when it comes to

Brian Atlasherpes I know maybe there is maybe there isn't I'm speaking about HPV human papiloma virus which there aren't outbreaks you just have it yeah it's a

Brian Atlasvirus my understanding is it's I I don't know if it's there's periods where it's more or less transmittable but I'm pretty sure it's just there MH

Brian Atlasand I don't know and it does cause cancer in the throat in the neck that's why there's a vaccine that women take so they don't get um cervical cancer yeah

Reybecause of cical cancer because of what H what do you mean what what are you even trying to argue I'm saying that they're two different things they can't be transmitted from eating too much [ __ ] basic that's what I'm trying to

Brian Atlassay so just to be clear if a woman has HPV on her [ __ ] your position is HPV on the [ __ ] does not exist that's what I'm saying I think it does this is the Dum

ReyI'm cancer it's not HPV you can what's HPV does not exist on the [ __ ] it's either cancer or herpes and it's not

Brian AtlasHPV why women if that's the case why do women get vaccines to prevent from cervical cancer it's two different things what wait hold on no no no hold

Valentina Sumskion let me have the back and forth what is two different things cervical cancer is herpes AKA not HPV it's cost by

Valentina SumskiHPV and HPV it has over 200 different types of viruses Within it does it has many different kinds but you can't you can't transmit it to your mouth from someone eating it I don't know that

Alex Paige Mooresound like you're trying to cope for having HPV but I've known someone that has had HPV people aren't you get a less procedure to get it like cut out because it can cause cancer it's it's abnormal

Reycells so you can get cutc and there aren't any cases that anyone has ever heard of Prett much wait I'm sorry there there aren't any cases

Reyof what of people eating [ __ ] and getting cancer on their face because of it it's not HPV is something you get in different areas it's not something that

Reygoes on you know I had HPV on my face HPV is normally on the lips or shoulders or you know it can't be on the vagina but human

Brian Atlaspapiloma virus literally fake news literally fake news are you talking cut out because it was it's a risk Gil have you had the Gil

Brian Atlasvaccine what is that it's a vaccine to prevent cancer typically in women cervical cancer because they get HPV down there from

Brian Atlassex I think I have had it but I know I don't you had vac oh my God you've had the V it's called you've had the vaccine that HPV on your [ __ ]

Reybut you're claiming but you're claing I'm saying that you can't you can't get HPV on your MTH from eating [ __ ] that's all I'm trying to say because many people are very uneducated on that

Reymatter you literally can so it's very R smoke or do anything else that causes cancer so what do you mean it's rare one in

Rey100 so you're saying a a woman has I don't know I don't know what the I don't know but I don't know what the measurement is actually I know that it's

Reyvery rare as in it's very rare like no cases have shown up like almost no cases like that's it's not possible it's not possible that's

Brian Atlaswhat I heard that's what that's what my doctor told me who told you my doctor your the doctor and my family your traditional what is that let's I want to investigate that what does traditional

Reydoctor mean traditional medicine is Eastern medicine oh like Chinese herbs no like Russian uh medical school and it actually is accepted in America as well

Brian Atlaswhat what's the name of it what's the name of what what is it so I can Wikipedia what traditional medicine it's called Eastern World Medicine Eastern okay Eastern Eastern world can you guys or

Reyyou can call it traditional medicine that's another name so Chinese medicine not necessarily Chinese is ring the World by the way there's many different countries that fall under that category so it could be Chinese medicine what

Brian Atlaswhat is it called Eastern medic it's called Eastern World Medicine okay I'm what makes it Russian well my mom and many uh I literally can't even

Brian Atlasfind I see TCN traditional Chinese I see traditional Chinese medicine if I search up that I can't find anything for traditional World

ReyMedicine I didn't say that am I getting gas lit here did she not literally say traditional Eastern Eastern World Medicine then I said traditional medicine I didn't say tradition

Brian Atlasmedicine wow that's interesting I can't even find a Wikipedia article on it but somehow there's schools that teach James it's literally School medical schools in Russia R am concerned about going down

TTS Readeron the girl cuz she might be getting creamed from other dudes yep don't forget about all these chicks eating guys Poes if it's safe to even make out wait so so chat chat viewers don't don't

Brian Atlasyou can't go down otherwise you're going to get HPV Thro cancer but then also you can't let a girl like eat your ass who

TTS Readerwould eat ass what what he I but there's a reason 42 donated $100 I guess not trusting the CDC on something things but it's literally on

TTS Readerthe CDC website they have an entire page of cancers that HPV causes including throat yes that's what I said throat and head canc I don't disagree with that what you literally do no I'm saying that

Reyyou can't get it from eating [ __ ] that's what I'm saying but that's you disagreeing with that pretty much throat and is different from vaginal vaginal uh

Reyso so you you can't get you can't transmit no you can't transmit it from from the [ __ ] no but you can transmit

Reyit in other ways but not from eating it I think that's AIDS like another it's through can you

Brian Atlasget can you get HIV from oral sex no yes no that's question can you get HIV from oral sex I don't think so no has toide

Verayou mean like kissing or oral sex godamn no you can't it has to be you the the seen has to go your the the Sean has to go in tilt tilt tilt tilt you have to

Reytouch it with some sort of liquid from the body the SE has to go inside the body so you can't no okay going to get

Brian Atlasin Anis I'm talking to this girl holy [ __ ] what the [ __ ] okay um I feel like I just got to move on because it's like

Reyyeah move on oh my God you're just well at least now they just move on sex ed whatever I got to be doing [ __ ] seventh grade sex ed Junior High School sex ed if we're moving on you have your

Brian Atlascomputer right there there's a lot of miseducation on the topic that's why I'm trying to correct it we're on a podcast yeah let's do the picture let's do the pictures let's do the pictures what do

Backgroundwe have gban my God no we haven't wait what are you doing Alex we're not there yet we're not

Verathere yet where's the the girl version of Brian oh yeah I need to make a call if I'm going to smash or not not what the [ __ ] oh wow that looks

Veralike no airis is that good yeah no no bro how many how many are there keep going dude lesbian Bri you're Russian

Brian Atlasyou're supposed to make me into a I like that one you got to you got to get rid of the [ __ ] beard voice baby Brian okay you checked these

Liam Christopherbefore you checked all these before okay we're all right that's it t Okay is it's a clean okay

Liam Christopheroh yeah knock knocked the Box off of that I still feel like it's not fair like that's a good one you know go to my Instagram go to my Instagram pull my

Brian AtlasInstagram pull it pull it up pull my Instagram up and let them find a uh photo from my Instagram scroll to the

Brian Atlasbottom too you have fale photo on Instagram no but uh let's see scroll down scoll uh here which one should they uh

Brian Atlasscroll up that's you that is not that's me when I was a babe that's crazy okay maybe some of the like uh these ones

Brian Atlasscroll up a bit days scroll up Scroll up Scroll up yeah maybe one of these ones guys here scroll up a bit one with the

Liam Christopherpuppy yeah all right there it is damn okay yeah use one of those what the [ __ ] oh you mean to create the girl to create the girl there's a couple of ones in

Liam Christopherthere actually I have a threes with the first version and the last version is that an option can I choose two of them that's crazy man that's crazy well to choose two cuz i' do that that would be

Liam Christophermy choice that's wild my preference I'm actually imagining it in my head now e do you feel get them to make out with each other and that would be kind

Brian Atlasof that's crazy man yo oh wait I got to change all the settings here guys by the way TTS is 100 I forgot to like change all the settings and stuff but uh yeah

Brian Atlasso look uh you can get HPV in your throat as a woman or man yes you can how not how would you get it wait how

Reywould you get it you would get it either genetically or from someone else who had it by doing what by kissing or something like that not eating [ __ ]

Brian Atlasthough Lan in you say said my oh you erroneous erroneous oh boy okay um well you know hey you

Reyknow uh where did did you go to college again where did I go to college yeah you dropped out right I went to Santa Barbara City College For Real

ReyEstate yeah and I dropped out because I make more money and don't even need to work in real estate w w um okay where were we because I'm happy with doing what I want gu you

Reyshould don't have to any explanations wait so just to be clear so let me ask you this question thing I'm scared now I was just

Brian Atlastrying to educate you I don't want you to get emotional about it well it's not that I'm emotional it's just like if you hear such a like absurd claim it's almost like frustrating and shocking

Brian Atlasespecially when like when provided with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary you won't even change your position so you're trying to edate me allow me to educate you but I do have a

Brian Atlasquestion so if a guy told you that he had HPV on his penis knowing what you know that it's non-transmissible you like and he's like

Brian Atlashey and it's there and you see it you would still suck his dick no why not you can't get it on your mouth because I don't want to touch it but you can't you said you said yeah but I don't want to

TTS Readerfeel it on my tongue what if you can't feel it I doubt it honestly it could be smooth or something f m donated $100 HPV negatively impacts female

Brian Atlasintelligence I feel like she's doing a lot of like covering up for big HPV I feel I just don't she's like a an industry plant for like trying to

Brian Atlaslike so um so just to be clear even though you admitted that you can't transmit HPV from genitals to mouth why

Reywouldn't you go down on a guy who has h PV on his penis because that says a lot about him as a person and I wouldn't want associated with him in the first it's just not my preference personally yeah but you don't have to

Reyhave sex with him it wouldn't but it wouldn't happen because I wouldn't be associating myself with such man in the first place but I thought you said that they could be born with it yes they can so that they can but they wouldn't be

Reyhaving an out has they wouldn't be having an outbreak someone that was was that a Checkmate that might have been a Checkmate argument maybe not if someone was born with it they wouldn't be having

Reyan outbreak while I was about to go down on them why not what do you mean why not it's just not a good idea that I would associate myself with but what if you were in love with them and you were

Reygoing to marry them and then you find out what would you well I could fall in love with him yes but I'm not going to have sex with him while he's doing that because he would be embarrassed most

Valentina Sumskilikely what if he wasn't embarrassed if he wasn't embarrassed then we talking about the a lot of don't even know they have it because he has no symptoms on on men

Valentina Sumskithe only one that affects is the female body by the HPB older men are the ones that um spread up spread it around it has no impact in their life so probably they don't even know they have it oh

Reythat is true because their ulas are is that what they're called they're penis is so long far away from the uh like where they pee so that's why it doesn't

Reyspread no it's a virus it's a virus it's not it's not like wait what is far away from the what no because they're they because their hole is so long it's far

Reyaway from where they produce the you know no produce the what where how they catch the never mind no no no say it I don't know how to explain it I would

Brian Atlashave to ask your traditional medicine yeah I would have to ask the doctor in my family you literally just said something like I just don't know how to explain it far away from no I just don't know the medical terms that's why I

Veradon't know how to explain it okay use simple terms okay well I don't remember hole I don't remember and then God oh my God can I ask you a question Brian so if you don't need [ __ ] because

Verayou said you're going to need H HPV so you don't kiss girls either cuz you can get herpes yeah so you don't like to kiss girls either that's an interesting argument yeah it is uh well I do I do uh

Brian Atlasthat actually is a compelling argument um so one I mean my counter this would be that a woman could uh could have HPV on her

Brian Atlasgenitals but not on her mouth that's one um and then two so I do kiss women permanent sure sure but I'm giving

Verayou so I didn't give you just one argument though I gave you like multiple reasons why I don't do it yeah so but you would kiss a woman and you can get her piece which is what if she on her tongue and you didn't you can't remove

Alex Paige MooreHPV that's forever I thought you said you had your friend Las a l procedure you can get rid of HP yeah but it doesn't remove the virus it if it's in the vagina it can you can get it cut out and then no but the virus is there I'm

TTS Readernot sure I didn't go dep with my friend I just thought you cut out and then or maybe it's just a cervical caner it donated $100 it is proven that flannel prevents

TTS ReaderHPV transmission by making you celibate brixon is that a flannel shirt on the back of her chair yes yes it is a FL Oh my he just it is I do have flannel right here that's true

Brian Atlasthat is a good point that is a good point um wow good good catch there uh doc F thank you for the TTS man appreciate it by the way TTS is $100 if you guys want to get it in uh what was

Verathe question sorry just totally about would you kiss a girl if sure even though you can get her piece which is permanent yes you you went suck no [ __ ] you don't really like [ __ ] he doesn't like it

Reywhat what ever he just doesn't know how to do it that's what it is and he doesn't want to upset the woman oh no don't know how to do

Valentina Sumskiit uh I mean it's really not a comped what those 10 girls say it's okay you can have preferences I think prefer people are allowed to have preferences like if a girl didn't want to suck dick

Brian Atlasand I was pressuring her just like you guys were press in me I would probably get be getting canceled but or you guys would be getting canell but nobody's pressuring you having a no but it's just

Brian Atlasinteresting like this is just a podcast after all yeah but if like the amount of push back that if a girl was like no it's a boundary it's a preference I don't like to do it and if the guys were like just hammering over and over I

Valentina Sumskiwe're talking about right probably has happen and anybody here doesn't go down on a man okay just oh wait me it's just different and

Valentina Sumskithat's fine go down on men you don't but you're like you never have single until married and it's that a specific case honey you said what I don't believe you've never gone down on a man well if they can't stand up so what's to go down

Veraon they can't stand um what are you talking about but you've never you acting you're a man you know exactly what I'm talking about there are some men that cannot stand up they don't even

Liam Christopherask there is they oh what you mean like corpses you know exactly what oh Oh you mean the the the

Brian Atlasthing sorry I'm very simple person is that supposed to be like an own though like to a guy who doesn't eat [ __ ] like you're you must be really bad at it like yes is that the own is that the own like

VeraI don't care because you like [ __ ] and you B it eat in it so it means you don't truly satisfy a woman yeah I just she said it and if you don't value truly you don't have to I didn't like it in the past yeah it's

Verajust the person like who like get in the ass eat versus [ __ ] what the [ __ ] no one just me not me just

Valentina Sumskiyou no I think it's um it's just like an intimate moment and if both partners are enjoying it it just it just makes it really nice when they when your partner is enjoying it you enjoy that moment as

Reywell with with him and that's fine if you don't it's fine as well you don't have to it's not nearly as fun if the other person isn't enjoying themselves also exactly make something clear because you said like satisfaction or

Brian Atlaswhatever so first off it's not like I'm uh I'm what's the right word greedy I don't know if greedy is the right word like I obviously care like I want my girl to come before me really and she if

Brian Atlasshe can she's going to come multiple times I didn't know that was possible for a woman oh sorry to about that but um it is yeah some girls are like

Verainsanely or like you faked it you don't think f it to no you can't fake statistically statistically sta y are the ones like legs

TTS ReaderSP statistically most G One Motorsports donated $100 hey it's GD one let's be honest a man would have to be a very special kind of stupid or height to have

TTS Readersex with any of you generates even without the very real risk of disease you pose let alone have a box lung yo grid one you didn't use your special uh you didn't use your little special Tri

Valentina Sumskithat like supposed be towards me or something everyone just the internet he said degenerates he said we're degenerates oh thank you very much I love talk badly about us because it's the whatever podcast no he's defending

Valentina Sumskihim like he needs somebody to defend him we're attacking him or something which we're not do you think you can ever pull one of these degenerates over here like you think you can get a date with any of the degenerates on the podcast I'm just

Veracurious he spent $100 saying he couldn't get one of the degenerates yeah he said he said don't listen to these generates do you think that one of these degenerates would give you the time of

Veraday starting from want the time of day but of course he does he's commented how did you come to that conclusion he commented and he spent his money so of course he want he support of the show

Verayeah doesn't mean he wants to [ __ ] you guys he wants to D Brian yeah yes I agree Brian is and maybe you too I would want to D me I wouldn't blame him to be

Reyhonest in his mind he likes men and not women true say that sorry I didn't hear I said in his mind he likes men and not women you can't find not one of these women out of him are you call the guy

Liam Christopherwho made the comment are you calling grid one a homosexual is that yeah we can't call grid one $100 bills around grid one is very straight GD one is an honest and a

Liam Christopherdecent man he a he a brave and a decent man he a we love you Brent coming from the degenerates we still have love for

Brian Atlasbecause you're a paying customer that is MHM brand okay uh that was uh that was I don't even know where what were we even talking about there was I don't even

Reyknow we were talking about how you don't like eating [ __ ] and this is like getting pressuring and I don't like it I'm just saying it's perfectly okay that's what I thought you

Reycan't you don't like it cuz you can't do it right that's why talking also something that's probably true how like standing up for Brian now personally I've never met anybody that can do it right but

Valentina Sumskihonestly have you guys yeah you have to really like teach let me go to Swedish she KN for let me go to Swedish she absolutely I don't get yeah anyways okay

Brian AtlasI'm going move it on I'm going move it on the Santa barbar guys No No's going to move it yep I don't like let's go to the next become like a sub all right so let's get into some of the show actually

Brian Atlasyou know what before we do the show notes we have to did we get any more photos of me by the way as a girl girl girl Brian do I have to write them again

Brian AtlasBrian please Brian yeah Bri we have more Bri sh she's looking at my face like on [ __ ] make sure you look Dam it you got to look before we pull them up

Liam Christopherokay yeah we're good we're good okay all right I've already locked in a thr with the first two so oh there we go that one looks pretty good that looks like a

Valentina Sumskiscience teacher math teacher do one a teacher I agree kindergarten teacher something

Liam Christopherlike that no oh my God I think she looks underage look a typ of cheerleader I mean she looks like like a that's of age I even know I don't know what the [ __ ]

Liam ChristopherChris an would come out if you met that one oh that's it okay all right okay the first one was good all right that was cool that was cool so she said it looks like me do you think actually go back can you go back a

Brian Atlaslittle bit like her as well okay we got one that we like all right so uh Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10

Alex Paige Moorestarting with you go ahead um with or without makeup what does it matter cuz I was going to say with makeup an eight without I'm like a

Reyfour all right what about you um I would say like a solid seven solid seven okay 10 out of 10 because self love is the best love cute

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Veraall right that was F I would say a six six six a six like an eight or a nine a 10 obviously wait say it again we a 10

VeraI'm a 10 I knew this because I've been making living off my looks for so long I'm a 10 that's how I got here to Sant braa I'm a 10 okay I'm a nine

Brian Atlas10 you're 10 wait so uh nine 9 10 8 wait so 9 10 10 10 obviously

Liam Christopherokay what about us oh yeah what about you of course six but if you have a couple of tequila shots we can probably get to an eight I reckon to an eight I

Liam Christopherget myself I get myself a five what about two tequila shots you get to a six yeah maybe a six for a girl get that Swedish handshake

Brian Atlasuh so 10 10 nine interesting um so you're 10 you don't even know me well it's

Valentina Sumskilooks but okay I know what you look like oh thanks so how much how how would you rate me oh well I wasn't going to go there but you want me to rate you I

Valentina Sumskidon't care how much you rate me honey I'll rate you if you but actually want me to rate you you were asking us how much we think we rate ourselves I find it funny that you think

Valentina Sumskiit's interesting that we rate ourselves a good why why is that funny that I think it's hilarious why do you I find it funny you think find you have to make that comment to be like oh interesting like it feel ridiculous

Brian Atlaswhatever okay so you're saying I'm being passive aggressive okay I'll be more direct not a 10 not a 10 not a nine no offense not a five not even a five I wasn't asking for your opinion anyways I

Reyknow I'm a 10 so whatever here tell you what why we uh why we do this I don't need I got some makeup for you want to take your makeup off I remove it I take

Valentina Sumskimy makeup off but I don't touch stuff like that I would touch my water without makeup that's not the problem she's PR she's Prett without makeup where's the where's the

Valentina Sumskimirror oh [ __ ] you're getting I'm not getting anything I love the intensity no no no excuse me I prepared to this

TTS Readerpodcast hold on hold on you're so rude how am I how's that rude hold on hold let the best you can do is call me homo wow I bet you suck at everything even

TTS Readersucking D next to my wife you are all literal gutter trash and all for a man is three holes in a bad attitude we a ner next time I'm here I'm coming with

Reyno makeup on just because of that oh you're wearing up I'm wearing lip gloss and lipstick yeah that's not

Valentina Sumskimakeup okay go ahead with your thing or whatever you're going to say you know what forget it no go ahead no forget about forget it honey forget it this

Valentina Sumskihealthy to okay sweetie a he's so sweet go ahead go ahead say it I don't even remember anymore it's too late you caught me on purpose which is fine no

Valentina Sumskithere's a TTS coming in go ahead yeah we all forg I really I really don't don't don't even I really don't care a critique of the writing system she was upset she was upset she was upset so now that I'm without I'm Latin and I speak

Valentina Sumskiloud and that's it and now we're out the makeup you don't want to see me upset believe me I believe you oh yeah what happens when you're upset nothing you think I'm upset because I'm raising my voice but that's the way that I speak

Valentina SumskiI'm not upset and nothing happens when I'm upset I'm just I'm very clear and I communicate let me finish yeah I'm the host though so I'll interrupt as I please but go ahead yeah that's what the moderator

Brian Atlasdoes upset then yeah that's what a host and moderator does they got interrupt but go ahead say your thing F okay so wa me without the makeup I'm here yeah you still got makeup on and you're still beautiful um pass me another wife you only give me one I can't wait here do

Verathis hold that up to that camera right there I have no problem I came a show and of course you're going the beach you can get me on Twitter andity

Verawhy don't you do the lipstick too I have I going to make a red my face but it I don't think have wear makeup okay give me another white please thank you I think I'm out of I feel like you would

Reylook good with sunglasses on that's the equivalent for man keep going let's keep going I love it you like it I love it that's why that's why I'm single oh yeah oh yeah aren't you single too what situation ship bab situationship is not

Valentina Sumskisingle you how long is your situationship for 5 months yeah and damn you've been [ __ ] guy for 5 months and you don't got commitment damn that's enough for you bro that's enough for you bro you think I don't want to have fun

Valentina Sumskitoo I am allowed to have fun too that doesn't mean I want to marry this guy but at least I have someone to [ __ ] ooh what does that what does that even mean whatever damn she's all butt hurt

TTS Readeryou're butt hurt because I didn't coign that you're a $100 it doesn't matter LIC financial advisor Share three redhead doesn't even have enough brain cells to

Brian Atlastrade Pokémon cards let alone crypto for a living yeah she probably took a big L on eth like a week ago but do you want to see my car let's compare cars your car let's compare cars your car your car

Brian Atlasyeah let's compare cars people who think car got a million dollar Lambo par right there I was talking to Brian I have no doubts about you hold on

Verabro hold on I have no doubts about you I was talking to Brian wait hold that up really quick to the camera look at all that God damn okay that that's not even big transformation oh you guys think you guys think it's a

Verabig transformation no I don't think so my bumps under my skin there's still makeup on your face but okay no it's not go wipe my face then so anyways lick wait question you have really nice skin actually thank you you guys agree let's

Brian Atlascompare cars and let's compare houses that we live in yeah so okay so question for you Ry so okay if you drove a

Brian Atlas$100,000 car but your net worth was your car and I had a net worth of multi-millions and I drove a beater [ __ ] Toyota 2000 Toyota I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat's what's I don't even know the name of the [ __ ] shitty ass toy I don't know I drove I drove a shitty ass Honda Accord but I was a billionaire but you drove a BMW but you're [ __ ] broke

Reyokay who let me say something when you're finished what's it about it's about where you live whoa okay we're neighbors and you live on

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Brian Atlasall right sorry guys um I had to kick I had to kick her out because she was about to dox so um there's some [ __ ] dumb chick the

Brian Atlasthe chick who got triggered cuz she she's a nine she wants to [ __ ] leave too oh my God bro sorry guys I we couldn't show it she was going to [ __ ] dox so

Brian Atlashad to [ __ ] kick her off the show so sorry guys unbelievable bro [ __ ] trying to prove a oh my god dude yeah I think if you don't know the internet you don't know the danger that it can put

Brian Atlassome unbelievable she was she was literally about to [ __ ] dox I would have shown it but we we had to just [ __ ] kick her out um yeah do you want to do you want to like elaborate on why it's dangerous to set people understand

Liam Christopherwhy is it dangerous because I Reed death threat oh my God are you guys [ __ ] all right that's right it's all right it's all right everyone chill death let's let's get some Talent here okay

Liam Christopherhere um so like what I'm saying is explain why it's dangerous cuz you were just saying that well we tell people to like go into detail because when someone understands the danger that it poses

Brian Atlasbased off the threats that you get they'll understand why it's a serious issue yeah I get death threats yeah that's what I'm saying I have staff here yes that if people like know address or know where I live or whatever yeah but

Liam Christopheryou got to you got to educate the audience that creators can get put in danger I mean you've probably been told this Alex right like you can't like okay if you're at an event you should always post after you leave the event right cuz

Liam Christopheryou don't want anyone to know where you are yeah how did popm smoke lose his life yes right he posted where he was when he was there that's the problem when you're a Creator even it's

Liam Christopherunintentional I know that yeah so it's a safety thing I think for context I think when people want to know why that te off was so big it's because it's a safety issue I know and when you've had actual

Liam Christopherdeath death threats like it can be scary I mean we've got an event tomorrow we've got private security they're going to be strapped you know we can't even post until we've left that event I understand

Liam Christopherand that event has been stuck up before so the reason it becomes so serious is because intentional or unintentional this is this is how things can unintentionally happen that are really bad let's just move on I'm so sorry this

Liam Christopherhappened on your podcast let's let's move forward what are some positive things that we can circle around at least you don't have to eat her [ __ ] at least you don't have to eat her [ __ ] no okay here's what we can do

Liam Christopherwhy don't we go through about the dating sto let's go through the let's go through the notes so wait can we get one of another girl in that chair is yeah we're going to so what we're going to do what we're going to do is we're going to just take well there's two girls gone so

Verayeah we're going to the way we're going to figure this out is just grab the in and we'll do the story these are the two who told me that we're not on our period 28 days out the year and they left I told y'all women are mentally ill but

Brian Atlasy'all denied me okay so we can we can circle around now but um she was upset because she didn't want to take a trigger that's why she didn't want to take the L and then this girl left too

Brian Atlasbecause she got butt hurt over me not [ __ ] uh kissing her ass and saying what they call was a super so what what what happened to our frontal there what

Liam Christopherhappened to our frontal no no I hijacked her upset I think what people understand the serious is it's just a danger thing to be honest and like you know so course let's um we've got some

Liam Christophercool notes I've seen the notes I've seen some cool stories I know you jacked some good stories do you want to circle around with them uh let's refresh let's cleanse our palets and let's go around

Liam Christopherbecause we've extracted some stories from people that are a lot more up beat so now that we've had the blow up and we understand what happened and we understand why it happened then let's

Liam Christopherget some positivity going and let's get some positive energy stories back into this podcast maybe holding hands what you guys no that's a but but still come on let's get some positive energy story

Veraso whip around what's everyone said their bad dat are wait I I took all my makeup no you look you look good you look beautiful I off my makeup and he didn't even acknowledge that he said I still look terrible rip some content out

Verafrom the show notes you got it yeah one sec guys you're good would I have to take off the wig too I can do that huh I have to take off the wig too I can do that yeah take off I thought

Verayou said earlier that you can't no I can oh you can't oh I just wouldn't prefer to but I definitely can oh oh you have good girl oh we back live again no we're live why are you wearing

Liam Christophera wig um because Ginger goes better with this outfit simple dress it's good yeah yeah yeah refocus you guys like it or do you guys love it hang on we're we're going to we're going to cook something up that's going to be good it's going to be

Brian Atlaspositive energy now we need some positivity in here all right positive energy we've got positive energy over here well I'll continue on so I'll continue on we were so the this was the

Brian Atlasconversation yeah uh Stiffler so I think we should move away from that combo well we'll go to the do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time go ahead

Verano it's only downhill from here a no I hate you say that you beautiful thank you maybe if I get a faft no all you have to do is marry the right man and you'll get better all right would you be

Pbetter looking in 10 your son um I would say so just considering my mom and the rest of my family I guess literally Asian yeah and I will have white hair when I'm old not gray

Brian Atlasmhm will you look better or worse when you're older no not better yeah yeah okay good I think I will hopefully I will yeah I think H am i f one I'm not

Brian Atlaseven sure I mean by the way guys I'll post the BTS on the Discord we weren't able to show it live because she was liable to uh to docs so if you guys want

Brian AtlasI'll post it'll probably be it it'll have to be some point later on I'll post the security camera footage of the two ra well the kickoff and then this chick over here Rage Quit um I'll post it on

Brian Atlasthe Discord that's discord.gg whatever if you want to check it out um wait so who said yes to this question prob okay so you're 22 two uh so you'll be better looking at

Brian Atlas32m and then 20 years time will you be better looking at 42 no okay uh okay and then sorry who else said it

Brian Atlasbetter looking in 10 years you said that mhm you two yeah oh both of you so you wait you're 19 mhm uh you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 29 y uh 20 years time at 39 I hope

Brian Atlasso uh 30 years time at 49 I think I will I have good jeans okay what about you so yeah I do hold on tilt the mic down speak into the

Veramic you can scoot your chair in um yeah I think so because um you know people literally come out to the Caribbean cuz our women do not like age at all you

VeraI've come across like 30 40 old women in sta that look like they're 13 years old so no I don't and and my mother of course self so in the ' 50s that's

Brian Atlasprobably what's going to be it for me and I'm still going to be sexy though okay and then 20 years

Brian Atlastime yeah 20 years from time yes 30 years time no okay all right okay um let's see what else do we

Brian Atlashave uh okay uh going to you Lisa you said that uh you said it's really well tragic

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