KICK OUT AND RAGE QUIT?! 70+ Body Count At 21?! She Is In LOVE With A Fkboy?! | Dating Talk #207

Date: 2024-10-23

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

AAlex Paige Moore >

LLouisa (DT207)>

DDestiny (DT207)>

VVera (St. Lucia)>

VValentina Sumski >

LLiam Christopher >

Brian Atlas

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Alex Paige Moore(guest)

SPEAKER_04Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elena Smyra(guest)

SPEAKER_06Rey(guest)

SPEAKER_07Background(audience)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_10P(guest)

SPEAKER_11Valentina Sumski(guest)

SPEAKER_12Vera(guest)

SPEAKER_13Louisa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Production/Music(audience)

Key Moments

OtherLouisa reveals a man set her hair on fire on Stockholm subway escalator; attacker targeted 5 women, was arrested, trial upcoming

“I just see smoke coming up behind me and I turn around and then the man was just standing there... he did it for five girls”

OtherP found another girl's black lace panties at her fboy's house and wore them on her next visit to provoke a reaction

“I go over there and it is a pair of panties you know what I did the next time I saw him I wore them I wore them”

OtherP reveals her friend invited 5-6 Tinder guys per day to their Lake Tahoe cabin during a girls trip, and P had a threesome with one of the guys and another girl

“I planned out a girls trip to Lake Tahoe... my friend decides to go on her dating app and invites like six guys like every single night over”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round: Alex 8/4 (with/without makeup), Rey 7, Liam 5, Vera 6 then 9-10, Valentina 9-10

“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10... with makeup an eight without I'm like a four... solid seven... a six... I'm a 10”

ControversyValentina and Brian clash over her 10/10 self-rating — she says "you don't even know me", Brian pushes back; she gets louder, says "I'm Latina, I speak loud"

“you're saying I'm being passive aggressive okay I'll be more direct not a 10 not a 10 not a nine... I'm Latina and I speak loud and that's it”

ControversyUnidentified "Ginger" guest kicked off show for attempting to dox Brian's location during self-rating debate

“I had to kick her out because she was about to dox... she was literally about to dox I would have shown it but we had to just kick her out”

ControversyValentina rage quit after Brian refused to validate her 9/10 self-rating and pushed the makeup removal

“the chick who got triggered cuz she's a nine she wants to leave too... she was offended by that implication that I didn't agree with her looks rating”

QuoteBrian states he will not date a sex worker as a firm personal line: "I will not date a sex worker point blank period"

“I will not date a sex worker Point Blank period”

QuoteVera reveals she charges $5,000 for in-person meetups with fans

“if someone wants to [bleep] me and they write out that they want to have sex with me that is the price $5,000 that is the price for the a meet up price”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Relationship Statuses

All guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Liam also introduce. Relationship statuses, longest relationships, who broke up with whom. P's 8-year fboy situationship, Vera's "single until married" philosophy, Rey's 2-week breakup, Valentina's 5-month situationship.

P's Fboy Situationship Deep Dive

Extended discussion of P's 8-year on-again-off-again situationship with a Santa Barbara fboy (SPEAKER_10). They met in high school via Instagram DMs at age 15. She is in love with him but won't ask for commitment. She found another girl's panties at his house and wore them back to impress him. He calls her babe while seeing other women. Panel debates whether she's dickmatized/brainwashed.

Rosters, Threesomes & Sexual History

Panel discusses having multiple people at once (rosters). Rey reveals 3 threesomes in one day (same couple each time). P reveals a threesome at Lake Tahoe during a girls trip where a friend invited 5-6 men/day from Tinder. Brian and Liam discuss the asymmetry of sexual optionality between men and women. Swedish dating culture (hookup culture) with Louisa.

Dating Advice to 15-Year-Old Self

TTS-prompted question for each panelist. Alex: "don't be a doormat." P: "be kind to the shy guy who may not be around much longer." Rey: "listen to your mom." Louisa: "don't pressure yourself, everything will be okay." Elena: "they're not always telling the truth." Vera: "nothing is ever that deep." Liam: "hang in there skinny rat, you're going to be a jacked multi-millionaire." Brian: "don't date women with mental health issues."

HPV Debate

Rey insists you cannot get HPV from oral sex on a woman, sparking a long factual debate. Brian and Liam cite throat cancer links. Rey eventually admits some transmission routes but resists conceding fully. Humorous TTS comments about koalas and flannel.

Self-Rating Round & Kick-Out Incident

Chat asks guests to rate their own looks 1-10. Alex: 8 with makeup / 4 without. Rey: 7. Liam: 5 (6 with tequila). Vera: originally said 6, corrected to 9-10. Valentina: 9-10. Brian implies he disagrees with the high ratings. An unidentified "Ginger" is kicked off the show for attempting to dox Brian's location. Valentina rage quits after Brian will not validate her 9 rating + makeup removal confrontation. Two guests removed from set (~2:38-2:43).

Sex Work Debate: OnlyFans vs Traditional Work

Extended multi-hour debate on sex work, predominantly between Brian/Destiny/Elena vs Vera (St. Lucia OnlyFans creator). Vera argues sex work is a valid business with passive income, attacks hypocrites who watch porn. Brian says he would not date a sex worker. Destiny argues sex workers are degenerate. Vera counters by citing her Caribbean background, poverty, and financial independence. Vera charges $5,000 for in-person meetups. Discussion of OnlyFans marketing, passive income, and spirituality (Vera's parents are Baptist pastors). Vera admits sin but argues everyone sins.

Women Initiating / Who Pays

Debate with Louisa about whether women ask men out at equal rates in Sweden. Louisa argues attractive women do ask men out. Brian points out statistical disparity in initiation rates even in feminist Sweden. Discussion of who should pay on first dates.

Body Count Round

Brian asks body counts around the table. P: 50-70 (lost count, probably around there). Liam: ~300. Rey: did not disclose. Others: various. Vera: started OnlyFans at 18, had 3 before, ~20s after. P reveals she had a "party phase" where body count grew rapidly by age 19.

Man vs Bear Debate

Brian asks the "would you rather be in a forest alone with a man or a bear" question. P chooses bear (men have hands, can set traps). Louisa chooses man in US/Western Europe but bear if the whole world — cites unsafe countries and her own experience of being set on fire in Stockholm. Vera says she'd choose bear so she could kill it for fur. Brian challenges the premise.

Sugar Daddy Stories

Brian asks remaining panel about sugar daddy experiences. Elena: one dinner via SeekingArrangement ($200), felt bad, quit. P: met a recently-separated wealthy man on 4th of July, 3 meetups ($500+ each + thousands in shopping), stopped after he asked her to travel. Has his own hangars, float plane, yacht club. P stopped contact after fearing for her safety.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasviews expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever Channel with that said and without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so

Alex Paige Mooreplease tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead so I'm Alex paig Moore I'm 27 I'm doing our for three more weeks then I'm going to focus on a singing career and I'm from

Brian AtlasAustralia okay what part of Australia South Australia South Australia yeah the boring part okay and uh so you're doing o only three more weeks yeah I'm going to

Brian Atlasleave okay I I don't believe you stop the but uh only three more weeks get it while it

Alex Paige Moorelasts okay um what do you do on no well I mean I do a bit of everything but um I've sort of tamed it down a little bit recently I want to I think my passion is singing so I really do just want to

Alex Paige Moorefocus on that and I'm scared that you know if I um don't quit then people won't take me seriously so I'm going to try and start doing something more seriously with

Alex Paige Moorethat uh what kind of singing do you do so I like to do pop music a bit of like also Paramore Bit of Country so yeah I'm releasing a song in a few days actually

Alex Paige Mooreso that will come out yeah I'm very excited let's hear the AR capella go I was just I knew he was going to do this it's up to you I can do it um I'm so do you want me to

Alex Paige Mooresing like yeah just go for it I'm so okay um so nervous can we get maybe a bit later I'm scared you want to give

Production/Musicher a song or something oh like an instrumental or you want to be you from

Production/Musicbeen now you got me feeling like a child now I'm sor that was good that was well

Pwell done I mean back it off there you go that was incredible I'm so record deal what about you all right um my name

Pis P I am originally from Thailand but I grew up here in Santa Barbara I currently work at a dental office still working on getting some certifications um like a hygienist not

Phygienist I feel like I would get kind of bored I like to multi and um maybe get paid a little bit more so I will be attending um AAL school um getting paid

Brian Atlasmore oh getting okay all right yeah okay got it um and then you are held um I am

P21 21 okay and you're you continuing about your occupation yeah yeah so um I finished

Pschools here I I've grown up in Santa Barbara all my life and I'm kind of just deciding what school I want to get into for dental oh so you want to become do you

Phave your bachelor's not yet still working on that okay are you at city college or the

PUC um I am at the city college um and online schools at the um Channel Islands

Pat the moment so what are you studying uh well my major has nothing to do with dental at the moment I kind of have to change it but it's math and architectural engineering okay and you

Brian Atlasno longer want to pursue that then I don't think so it's normal for people to uh switch things up when it comes to their education and career yeah and uh are you also a professional or

Psemi-professional Surfer yeah I used to compete um I don't do that anymore I had an incident when I was younger no that

Pwould have been better oh uh what happened um I got caught in a reef and I kind of just fractured one of my ribs

Pand passed out underwater held down yeah I got tumbled by a wave this was actually in aahu and I was training for a competition for what was it the North Shore no it was not I don't even

Premember the name of the beach but okay yeah huh I do have a video of it somewhere on my computer yeah I do have to hold down yeah because um I was

Ptraining so my my coach likes to take videos and so were you living in Hawaii at the time or I just visiting uh both I

Brian Atlasstayed with a family of locals in Hawaii for just a month mhm okay uh and can we get to her video the I found two of your

Reysurf videos can we pull those up on your Instagram oh my gosh and while we're getting those pulled up why don't you introduce yourself hi I'm Rey I'm 23 years old and I work

Brian Atlasin finance uh okay did you graduate from college or no I'm a Dropout okay uh you

Reywork in finance what is I invest in crypto so you're you work in finance yeah that's what I call

Reyit we have to go so are you employed no I work for myself okay all right uh what what are your Holdings I prefer not to discuss it

Brian Atlasbecause I'm not a financial adviser wait why would that be the reason you can't discuss like I could see why you don't want to just share it but the main ones of course such as Bitcoin and ethereum I I'll say that the other ones I don't

Brian Atlaswant to talk about you're not going to share your m coins no really Doge Shea you know okay all right uh cool yeah you

Brian Atlasgot it yeah okay let's see let's see some she's good I

Plooked wow it's good he good see this is California though right that's California yeah it is okay wow wow is that trestles or where is that um this

Brian Atlaswas actually in Malibu oh Malibu okay and there's that there's another one I have a few okay all right well we we get the idea um what about you hello thank you

Louisaso much for having me on it's going to be very fun hopefully but my name is Louisa I'm from Stockholm Sweden I have three jobs so I'm working night as a

Louisareceptionist in Stockholm and then my week off I'm working as a host a game show host so I'm hosting game shows MH

Louisamm and age yeah uh 27 any college uh been studying uh in Stockholm as a political science it's called yeah but

Brian Atlasyou have your degree or still working on it okay and you grew up in Stockholm yeah okay born in Stockholm as well yeah okay and then something recently happened to you what you want to tell us the story what happened there with the

Louisayou got attacked or something yeah I was on my way to work and then a man comes behind me and set my hair on fire and my jacket yeah

Louisaso it was quite a thing and this is in in stockhom the subway yeah I'm sorry girl let me take that off my list yeah it was terrible but the trial is coming

Louisaup so it's I cannot really go into Jesus details but and so uh how did how was it how did he light your hair so I were in the escalator

Louisagoing up to the train and then I just see smoke coming up behind me and I turn around and then the man was just standing there and I'll yeah try to figure out what happened just the lighter do you use flammables or was it

Valentina Sumskijust lighter only a lighter yeah my hair is very flammable actually you will just burn hair well is it it's flammable I mean did you have hair products in it no actually I didn't have anything it was

Brian Atlasjust out yeah lucking me but so uh they caught him he's he was arrested was there camera footage of this it is yes okay and he did it for five girls so

Louisawait he did it to five women so this is a crazy person was he crazy oh yeah um I didn't really talk to him but yeah I guess

Brian Atlasso SS was he was he a Swedish Swedish native no I wouldn't say but you wouldn't

Brian Atlassay blonde hair blue eyes not really um an an asylum Seeker I have no idea actually I don't know not not uh born in

Elena SmyraSweden I don't know because I didn't talk to him and I don't have the information about him but H okay uh what about you my name is Elena smyra I was born and raised here um I work as a

Elena Smyrasupervisor at Starbucks and um I'm currently getting my Bachelor's degree in Psychology age um 22 all right at the UC no um

Elena SmyraStarbucks actually pays for you to go to Arizona State online oh interesting okay huh and you're getting that in

Destinypsychology yes got it you're a senior um um junior junior okay got it what about you my name is Destiny I'm 19

Destinyyears old and I work as a caregiver and I work part-time at a restaurant all right where you from by the way I'm from

Destinythe Valley California like quarter inch okay got it what about you hi my name is

Veraver welcome if you're going to ask me what I do for a living I take pictures fans I do only fans for a living um yeah

VeraI've been doing that for a very long time so that's what I do age 22 all right how long you been doing the O for I've been doing it since I was

Brian Atlas18 okay so like four five years yeah okay uh were you have you been involved in other kinds of sex work besides just

Verao um I don't think so ohing no no uh I'm from sta too I'm from sta what's

Verathat sta I'm from sta it's a small little island in the Caribbean right next to St vinc and Martin okay it's called St R St Lucia St Lucia I see

Valentina SumskiSanta Lu okay now I can understand that yes rock and roll okay welcome what about you hi I'm Valentina Valentina

Valentina Sumskisumski I am an actor screenwriter and I own my own business uh age I'm I'm 32 all right what you don't look like I know thank you you're beautiful a I love

Valentina Sumskiyou you are and uh where are you from I'm Mexican Italian okay and so were you born in Mexico Italy or funny story I was born in Santa Monica but my mom took

Valentina Sumskime pretty much kidnapped me oops took me to Mexico she uh she T me with her when they separated my parents and I grew up in Mexico my whole life and then I decided to come back here 4 years ago

Valentina Sumskiand see what life had for me and here I am what part of Mexico north or south or Central uh it's called quaka it's a very small City I've been stop it I've been on a wedding there beautiful

Valentina Sumskithe best weddings I'm not even kidding I mean I from there but whatever um guak is really close to Mexico City it's like 45 minute drive yeah it's the city of the etal

Liam Christopherspring by the way it's spring all year long we don't have winter or fall or anything very cool Liam cool uh my name is Liam Christopher 35 entrepreneur serial entrepreneur actually looking at

Liam Christopherstarting a Serial company with my good friend Brian over here it's in the works friend and uh repeat guest of the show I've currently got seven Brands we manage over 700 influencers most of them

Liam Christopherdo seven figures on average um and yeah uh also I always come bearing gifts for the whatever podcast so if I could take 30 seconds the gift we have today is sponsored by aana gummies the first gummy brand they're going viral for

Liam Christopherdoing exactly what they say we've got to sleep recover wake up relax um the wake up ones are insane they keep me going for an entire podcast in fact I had too many last time I was too buzzed and I had to pull back for my own Supply um

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Brian Atlas40% off that's us rock and roll okay I'm Brian Atlas 35 from Santa Barbara not born but from Santa Barbara host owner of the whatever podcast over the hill

Brian Atlaswashed up has been YouTuber uh we're going to get everybody else's uh uh relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyol sex

Brian AtlasC terum whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead so I'm single at the moment uh the longest relationship's probably been

Brian Atlasfour five years okay four yeah and uh how long you been single for I've been single for over over a year now I think I'm pretty

Brian Atlasfussy and I saw you uh you had dated this actually semi- well-known Australian comedian yeah I don't know if you're at liberty to talk about that but

Brian Atlasuh yeah I used to watch his YouTube videos I was like did you really BL oh man you're going to get some Source on this podcast was that the 5year relationship no we were together for about 3 years

Alex Paige Mooreyears yes we broke up a year ago but your longest relationship was 3 years or sorry 5 years probably 5 years and that was like yeah throughout high school so I don't know if you can count

Brian Atlasthat that's crazy you used to watch Luc BL yeah that's like YouTube Old School 10 years ago seriously yeah okay

Brian Atlascool cool and uh so single for the past year then yeah yeah okay uh any prospects or any any guys in the picture at all whatsoever no I'm waiting for Mr

Brian AtlasR hoping he's around I got to interrupt the uh relationship status segment here real quick I know can you just say oh here we

Brian Atlasgo no no no do I say the no I heard her it sounded like a no but the F yeah everyone goes no

Production/Musiclet's go wait I'm going to help you okay check this out okay repeat after me okay no no good job I say it I say it like a Val

Brian Atlasgirl uh hold on let's try again let's try again little bit no no I do not say do do do I say it like that okay well we we we'll

Brian Atlascome back to that we'll come back to do I say it wrong as well let me hear it no well you said nah last time you said n so no okay uh relationship status for you um I am kind

Pof like in a situationship mhm but that's fair because I recently just broke up with someone just a few months ago um technically longer but I think he

Pwas too like to understand that I was like sorry to what crazy we say it crazy what is the word um

Pdelusional well all of those things no um delusional okay yeah he was delusional yeah what type of delusion well just that we were still together even though have clearly said that we

Brian Atlaswere done like a while ago so it's been a while so like they just don't accept that exactly yeah exactly that but so you said you been so that was like 3

Pmonths ago um I don't know how long it's been I'm so bad at time um but yeah just a few months ago but even further back but they thought it was still going on

Pyeah okay so like when was the breakoff um for me I would say what month I said it's October I would say it

Pwas like 4 months ago something like that yeah somewhere in June okay uh you broke it off right but now you're currently in a sort of a

Psituationship yeah I don't know how I got there but it's just like I I don't know I don't think anyone really knows how you get there how long have you been

Pseeing this guy well see I have known this guy for eight years now H um and it's a long story it's very like back and

Pforth um trying to figure it out have you guys dated previously we have and get this it was for a

Liam Christopherweek no one week for one week how long does he think you were together for if we asked him what would he say I

Brian Atlashave no idea wow um yeah get him on wait so and that was the only time you dated him previously just for one week but now you guys are in a situationship there weren't other periods where you guys were hooking up

Brian Atlasor seeing each other just that one week oh we were for sure Hing up other times yeah okay but you were only like in a like boyfriend girlfriend for a week yeah which I think it's just like a

Brian Atlastitle right like titles don't really matter they don't maybe I'm the delusional one um wait so it was like would you

Brian Atlascategorize it as an on again off again relationship for sure okay uh when did you guys first link up romantically um way back in into High

Brian AtlasSchool actually so um yeah when I met him and was was that that initial time was that when you guys were had the

Ptitle for a week um the title was maybe like a year or two after mhm yeah but then like between the times we were both

Plike dating other people and then we kind of just like come back to each other it's just like I don't

Pknow and so one week so was it uh was it on again off again or was it just casual like the entire time it was casual the

Pentire time like I can hang out with him and we wouldn't have to hook up it would just be like mutual friends like I still talk and hang out with him till this day and we're like fine you know like he can

Popenly talk to me I can openly talk to him about like other um people that were maybe interested in so it's not like weird at all but it's just a little

Brian Atlasbit messy like mentally you know wait is this the current situationship yeah okay um when's the last time you saw him oh

Pum actually two weeks ago two weeks ago is is this like long distance or no he's actually here the reason why I haven't seen him in 2 weeks is because I invited

Phim to see this band Slightly Stupid at s barber bu yeah love them I invited him um I got like an extra ticket and he totally forgot about it even after

Psaying like oh I'm so hyped to go and you know day of I gave my ticket to someone else which is fine he forgot about it yeah like he

Pjust happened to take another shift that same night so okay so he didn't know show but like the day of he's like he like told you he couldn't come or he knew in advance and he was like

Phyping it up like I'm so excited to go and then day of I'm like texting him like hey when you going to head over so we can like pregame go to this um concert and he was like oh shoot I

Brian Atlastotally forgot it was tonight this was like day of and I'm like oh my gosh well

Brian AtlasI see okay um and uh okay so how many like you you said it was kind of on

Brian Atlasagain off again yeah okay uh so you guys would like would there be breakup conversation like hey I don't want to see you anymore

Pthat sort of con convo oh for sure he's like someone that I have fully like went off on and just told him [ __ ] up like dude you like you don't make sense to me

Plike you know he doesn't make sense to you yeah wait you said you go off on him yeah because he's like one of those guys that will kind of call you babe and like

Ptell you all of these um future things that you could see like doing and stuff um and then like maybe a month later or a few weeks later

Pnot so much longer he's like oh by the ways I'm actually dating blah blah blah now and I'm like okay well when did that start you were like just with me like the other night but

Brian Atlasokay wait so you would go off on him because he called you

Pbabe it's just like kind of like messing with my like brain a lot you know it's just like really conflicting so I've been trying to like figure it out um and obviously I can't

Pfigure it out with him because he's my issue so he's your issue SS like an if yeah he is he sounds like an if boy that sort of just he looks like one too he looks like a [ __ ] boy is a [ __ ] boy yeah

Pone of those like cie guys you know like surfs but all of his surf boards are like Dusty on the top like he doesn't even surf anymore he's like AER yeah I he's a

Brian Atlasposer uh long boards or short boards though well he has both Surfer as well

Brian Atlasyeah how uh so he's not like a pro Surfer no just for fun you know okay um huh so you said you go off on him can

Brian Atlasyou here pretend I'm the [ __ ] boy or whatever just like go off hold on one where's the godamn dropping [ __ ] [ __ ] it

Pthe the Goku hair no the [ __ ] the Goku hair is on the floor and the all right whatever just here pretend I'm the [ __ ] boy I don't even know what I would say like being put on the spot right now

PI have to like see his face like he needs to be like right here you know I don't know yeah like how would you go off though like um like demo give us a

Pdemonstration oh shoot stop effing calling me babe like that yes for like sweet way I

Pfeel like I'm not someone to like be fully like mean or like someone else yeah but I'll say it in like a really nice way okay so unfortunately he calls

Pyou babe you you lose it you freak out what do you so he called you babe what did you say to the Babe thing uh I mean he called me babe

Pand I just said like like don't call me that I was like don't call you babe you SC do not call me babe why not though why not because I'm not his babe he has like a whole other like

Pside babe on the other side of his phone do you want to be his babe um I do and I don't you know I think what I'm

Pattracted to is just the fact that he's pretty much like me but a male version of me wait but just like more like you said he's crazy though wait wait hold on

Pum we're like very similar in ways of how we view the world and um we have a law of common interest and like um the

Psame career paths in a ways but um we're different in ways going into Dentistry no no and just like what we like we have like an idea figured out of what we want to do in the

Pfuture you know like we're not people who don't have it figured out and just like smoke every day and do nothing you

Brian Atlasknow okay yeah so like being normal I guess like um but okay so um you said you guys have similar World

PViews is that what you said yeah what are the what's the similar view of the world or um just going being able to see the world in like different perspectives and not just one way of the highway kind

Pof thing yeah so what's that um that's kind of like for example when you talk to someone about a specific topic they will

Pmaybe view um a reason why someone is mad for this specific reason but there could be

Pmultiple reasons of why it goes into that

Brian Atlasemotion does that make sense a little bit um okay and uh hm so you don't want you want to be his babe but he calls you babe you don't

Brian Atlaslike it if he calls you babe he's also [ __ ] other women but you still [ __ ] him um are you seeing other

Pguys um I am not sexually just what do you mean not sexually like I will go on dates with them um I think I genuinely

Pjust want to find like decent people to hang out with like it's so hard to hang out with like guys now just in a Mutual Way like as friends you know without the

Pfear of them wanting to tarnish it by wanting to hook up with you or date you so you mean like all men well you know actually recently what I saw on social

Pmedia um I don't know if it's always true probably definitely not but guys will hang out with girls they find somewhat

Brian Atlasattractive yeah on a friends strictly friends basis um just any basis you know I mean I've heard that men will be friends with

Brian Atlaswomen they're not attracted to yeah that's also a thing but I didn't hear I didn't hear about this like they'll hang out with girls just like actually just friends if they're somewhat attractive

Plike if the guy's attracted to the girl I feel like most men are not well see that's the weird thing because there are some guys I don't know if you guys have ever been in a um like talking stage

Pwith someone who later tells you over the years that oh by the ways I've actually secretly liked you for like two years but I just didn't say anything about it yes yeah yeah 100% like

Brian Atlasprobably every girl here at like Predator it's a real thing yeah okay um wait so you're just seeing this

Brian Atlasguy for the sex kind of but you you're dating other people but you're not hooking up with them yeah okay so how many are there other like do you have a

Proster no but like you said you're dating other guys yeah um like two two other guys so you're dating them going on dates yeah not like official like I

Pdon't know but the the and how do you meet them dating up no um I just go out my friends introduce me to people you know I get interested um I go to the

Pbeach get complimented when I go out when I'm on my board and yeah or social media I'm just like like heck it why not okay but it's clear that they're asking

Brian Atlasyou out like on a date not just like a bro chill SES yeah okay and the guy the situationship you're seeing currently does he have an does he know that you're going on the dates does he have an issue with it no he does not yeah I can't it

Brian Atlaswouldn't be fair right cuz he's sleeping with other women it sounds like yeah yeah um and then uh have you have you

Pasked for more from the situationship guy no um I think it's because I overall value our friendship more than a

Promantic relationship that I'd rather just have him keep him as a friend then just lose him forever if we were to become a thing and it just didn't work out well how do you know that that would

Brian Atlashappen well I don't know probably happen well so my so just to be clear um you're happier you're I'm assuming you guys

Brian Atlashave had some conversation about this yo Metro Matt thank you for the gift of 20 memberships thank you man so he's told you in one way or another I'm assuming here you can correct me if

Brian AtlasI'm wrong that he wants to keep things open is that right mhm but he likes you and he wants to keep seeing you yeah yeah uh or at least he likes having sex

Brian Atlaswith you um and wants to keep having sex with you no complaints and

Brian Atlasso but you would rather keep that than assert a boundary of saying well look some women I mean women are also

Liam Christopherengaging in uh I guess non-committal relationships but uh was it what Ed for again yeah know what was that funny word

Liam Christopherthat you use that sounds like qutis but it's like strumpet no it's like caral know that one that one that one caral knowledge yes um

Brian AtlasH so uh would if it was up to you would you like to lock this guy down if you

Brian Atlascould um openly yeah yeah yeah but have you had you've had no conversations about like hey Chad this is I'd like to be

Pboyfriend girlfriend I'd like to just see you and for you to just see me and yeah see I'm really just I'm really bad at confrontation unless it's

Brian Atlaslike necessary I don't know okay yeah okay and so uh wait question and then the nature of like when you guys do

Brian Atlasspend time together is it pretty much like 11:00 p.m. on a Friday come over no you guys so you guys will spend time on

Brian Atlasthe week weekdays yeah 3 p.m. afternoon a light okay all right um

Phm uh but you are okay so do you love him um o that's an interesting question

PI was not expecting that um I feel like there's definitely um a specific type of love there's multiple right I don't know

Brian Atlaswell there's the love you have for uh a parent or a sibling or a pet or a child but uh yeah I guess more uh romantic love is a bit different so is it that

Pkind of love um yeah I think so you think have you told him wait have you said I love you no I have not um but see I say I

Pthink but I actually know just because looking at my history of all the things I would and wouldn't do for someone he's

Pprobably someone that I would do like the most for what would you do for him um drop everything I'm doing just to run over if he's you know like calling me

Pcrying you know has he done that before he has he's called you crying yeah yeah yeah about well he had to give away his dog he was really sad about that so his

Brian Atlassurfboard broken [ __ ] I was surfing [ __ ] knee slappers at ring on the [ __ ] thing snapped on he miss swo uh okay yeah he got skunked it do

Pyou think do you think he loves you um I don't know he's not as expressive about his emotions as I am

Pwhich is completely okay wait show everything actions show everything yeah yeah for sure and we've gone to really

Brian Atlasnice dinners together and um do you pay for it no so you would do anything for this guy you would do anything you

Brian Atlasyou're in love with him have you said I love you to him I have not no okay uh hm what do you what do you think would

Brian Atlashappen if you said hey we've been dating each other seeing each other for a long time M let's be monogamous let's be

Pboyfriend girlfriend what would he say um well I don't know if I can speak for him I don't know you don't know yeah

Louisayou should text him right now oh no right now um okay well uh would you be able to meet someone

Pelse like while he's in the picture yeah I would just have to I think my standards are like somewhat pretty high just because in my lifestyle

Plike I travel a lot I like to be active um and it's kind of like a downfall when someone doesn't have a job to me so or

Pyou know people who are family oriented in any sort of way things like that does it how how I mean you love the guy you want to be in a relationship with him

Brian Atlasyou know that he's dating seeing sleeping with other women yeah does that not bother you honestly no do you not think you could I think he's got you brainwashed a little bit do you think I think so too it's been seven years do

Pyou think that you might be contributing to him being a [ __ ] boy see the thing about Santa Barbara guys because he is one is like they're

Plike let's hook up first and then see how I feel after that's like dating life nowadays seriously really that's valid I mean it's valid but I mean you you can

Brian Atlaslock that down within a couple weeks a month two months uh you been with him for what seven years how old is he um he is 22 oh okay wait I saw by the way I

Brian Atlassaw on your Instagram you got like a couple pictures with like an old like 60-year-old dude is that that's my dad I thought that was like your sugar daddy or something I was like what's

Reygoing on are you posted um I'm not adopted step step stad yeah got it have you ever thought that he's manipulating you has

Pthat ever come across your mind yeah see I think this man has given me a lot of red flags that I've just been

Brian Atlasignoring the sex is good but the SE IGN fing your mind ignore she's dickmatized she's well she said he's a

Louisa[ __ ] boy looks like a [ __ ] boy [ __ ] like a [ __ ] boy is that even good though I don't is it yeah it is okay she uh she knows do you feel like you're

Louisaare getting hurted from it like hurt yeah or like do you feel pain when you when he comes and like well I screwed a lot of girls today I don't know if he said that yeah I think when we talk about it together I'm like for some

Preason I feel more okay with it but I think it's like a front that you put on you know cuz obviously I don't want to give him the sa like satisfaction that like maybe I'm a little jealous or like maybe I'm a little sad like no like F

Pyou I'm just going to like be super chill about it but then like later obviously I'm going to like overthink a little bit but that's normal you know this

Pguy his sign um oh [ __ ] I think he's like an Aquarius or something awkwardness I don't know anything about zodiac signs but I just know what mine

Vera[Applause] is what is that a reaction

Brian Atlaslaughing okay so um H there's a lot there a lot to uh un go on and on I think we should move on though uh just

Brian Atlastwo more questions uh you said there were periods where it was like there were breaks breakups mhm essentially uh

Pon on again off again how many times um countless I don't know 10 plus 20 plus 30 plus actually no not that

Pmany maybe like four or five four four to five and who would end it him or you me every time um not every time I think

Phe's done it maybe like once with his last relationship but the other times it was me other times it was you okay and

Brian Atlasthen um would it be precipitated by something like you actually like do you ever ever walk in on him like [ __ ]

Panother chick or no but okay see this is a day where I went over to his house and in the corner of my eye I see black lace

Pand I'm like this guy doesn't have black laced clothes and I'm thinking in my head I'm thinking in my head huh just you know just to make fun of myself maybe it's a pair of someone's panties I

Pgo over there and it is a pair of panties you know what I did the next time I saw him I wore them I wore

Louisathem and I went over to his place wow did you wash them before going to yes that's actually what say that's

Brian Atlaspretty funny actually not liol what did he say when he found he saw you wearing them see his reaction was just like more silent he was just like staring at me did he go anyway honestly wait as a dude you know like how girls will like get

Ptheir haircut or some [ __ ] you don't I was going to say did he he probably didn't even notice notice no he it took him a while to notice but he did notice did he say anything um well he like kind of just like stared at me and he like

Pgave me that like up and down look and he was kind of just like posic you serious what did you get these and did you guys sleep together anyway yeah oh I mean now they're technically your

Brian Atlaspanties on this thing now AR they get mil wait um that was a that was a did you like you went over there in a trench coat and you were like well

PB see I was thinking about that but no I just had like slip on like Silk Dress easy removable you know wow wait so okay so you broke up with him wait was that

Pthat was one of the reasons you ended things no um the reasons why I ended things was I thought I had something good going with my last relationship and

PI wanted to focus on that and he was very much a distraction so and the things there I see wait okay so what kind of reaction did

Pyou want from that from him I know what I want yeah what do you want him to do when you were yes I mean like we're both really kinky people and honestly he just said he was turned on even more so I

Pknew that already wait when you when you say you're both really kinky people what does that mean oh like we've tried many things I don't where else to go with

Pthat like he wore the panties too prob did prob how you found them you know I should ask him actually he won't did you wash the panties before I did

Verayes cuz remember they were his panties maybe maybe I say it probably did because sometimes I get messages from guys and only fans and when they find like their girlfriend's pennies they'd

Verabe wearing them and twerking in them and sending it to me I'm so serious no way W so serious I in the other side of the world God word uh

Pso you ended things four times but then who would come back to who he would come back to me I would get a text message or a phone call out of nowhere and just

Plike hey like I'm off this day what are you up to and we'll make a plan can I ask a question as well like

Valentina Sumskigirls do you leave your panties at the guy's house no if I want to we yeah if you have suspicion and you want him to get like caught or whatever yeah you can leave it as

Liam ChristopherTR do that find Jesus intentionally might try just like a strategic panty drop so you Dro them there like a um like a trap there could be could be

Veradifferent options a panty trap if you want was it obvious like where he left obious very obvious you put it there for you to see them maybe maybe I don't know

Brian Atlasdictionary after this and then final I think this is the final question on this you said that you so while seeing him You' be dating other guys mhm yeah but

Pyou wouldn't sleep with the other guys no okay would you tell those other guys that you were you had another guy in the picture no

Pum I I definitely had like a moment in my past where I would like hook up a lot of multiple people but now I'm kind of just like mhm dating life is so annoying

Brian AtlasI kind of just want to be over it if I could I would marry myself you should do it you should do it wait um wait okay so uh you said there

Brian Atlaswas a time in your past where you would be like kind of at the same around the same time period you'd be hooking up with uh different people mhm okay so you

Brian Atlasyou had a roster at one point yeah okay how big was the roster um

Pit was long I'm just going to say that it was long well get 10 plus five is it normal to know your body count uh yeah oh I don't know mine you

Brian Atlasdon't know yours no you lost track yes so okay uh what do you I mean I was I wasn't asking the body count but I mean if we Rec doing it now I mean now I'm

Brian Atlascurious she's I am a bit curious let's do it you want to I don't have the whole alphabet but you know you don't keep like a thing in your notes on your phone like Billy uh Bartholomew do you do that I

Liam Christopherhad a girl once I did that too do you have a notebook of guys yeah I had a girl once and we finished and she rolled over and she pulls out this notebook and she starts writing notes I'm like what is this and she's like oh you're number like seven like what what and and I saw

Liam Christopherhow thick it was like oh man I got to get check yeah but responsible as well it was like a bro it was like she'd uncovered like the

Liam Christopherthe Lost George RR Martin [ __ ] dude like I was I was amazed at the 800 page she' write like details of the like the stamina and length I'm like what can I read my synopis she like a bio I would

Brian Atlasneed to shower for like 5 days dude I I was going to Dr myself in Bleach it was really that's hard yeah but anyway I'm in the book you have a you have a list yeah I do is it on your phone yeah think

Brian Atlasokay we'll go through it um but you don't have you don't have a list cap I do you have like a estimate if you want to guesstimate no I have no idea like 50

Pplus 100 plus definitely not over 100 though not over 100 not 100 though but probably over 50 maybe maybe maybe like around there around 50

Brian Atlas60 70 it's a little high all right we'll say it's between 50 and 70 then um and and uh hm

Brian Atlasinterest so I I want to open you know what here I have like a million questions but just like so I get everybody's answer to the relationship question um we'll just get through the relationship stuff and I'll save my inquisitions until we get everybody what

Reyabout you what's the question oh yeah so uh I know it's been a while uh so relationship status how long youve been single if you're single and my relationship status is single as of this

Reymoment I just got out of a short-term relationship but my longest relationship was about 2 years long mhm how long you

Brian Atlasbeen single I've been single for about two weeks two weeks okay who broke up with who I broke up with him and then your two-year relationship who

Louisabroke up with who me also okay and then what about you H I'm single and I've been single for 3 years now 3 years and longest relationship was 2 years yeah

Louisatwo years was that the one that ended 3 years ago yes who broke up with who it was like Mutual yeah exactly okay you say you've been single for 3 years though but what does that actually mean now you've been in like situationships I

Brian Atlasguess you call it what's the longest situationship you've been in the past three years uh six months six months okay you weren't you didn't call each other boyfriend girlfriend though no not not a little bit but we were not like

Brian Atlaswere you exclusive yeah you're monogamous yes year 6 months excuse me not six years 6 months okay all right wait hold on before I lose it I

Brian Atlasgot to come back to you real I just got a a lightl wait question um the the on and off again

Brian Atlassituationship that you're in love with and uh that guy [ __ ] boy uh how long well you guys you were like aware of each other like friends kind of

Pbefore you started dating is that correct yeah actually he found me on Instagram and sort of um started like messaging me like dming me and then we hung out for the first time we go to the

Psame school found out we have a lot of mutual friends and yeah went from there this was in high school yeah how old are you guys 15 um so he's a year

Brian Atlasolder than I am okay so you were 15 he was 16 or something like that probably yeah okay damn people sliding in to DMS in high school now what the [ __ ] okay no I mean like I don't know [ __ ] it's been

Brian Atlasa minute for me uh since I was in high school um there was also no Instagram so okay um so

Brian Atlaswait he SL to your DMs I'm just curious did you guys like was he your first no no okay yeah

Pum did you guys like hook up pretty quick um no actually when I first

Pmet him we hung out for maybe like 10 times before we you know hooked

Brian Atlasup sure got it uh going back to you or well did you I think we finished up with you so a relationship status in a relationship and the longest relationship would be 5 years and that's

Elena Smyrathe current relationship current relationship got it okay how did you guys meet um I think just I mean we went to the same school no okay and then um I was

Elena Smyrajust trying to like hang out with friends and stuff like that and uh he would text me quite often and so I decided one day to like go hang out with him at the beach when he was with his

Destinyfriends and that's how we met okay all right what about you um I am in a situationship type of thing and it's my longest relationship it's like a little

Brian Atlasbit over a year yeah you're sorry did you say I'm relationship or situationship my years situation situationship okay it's been

Brian Atlasone year a little bit over a year and is it your longest anything yeah one year okay uh are you guys monogamous yeah [ __ ] I hope

Destinyso I mean have you had a conversation like um yeah I mean I block everybody and delete everybody on his phone so I

Destinymean I guess yeah oh you block you have access to his phone yeah oh okay but have you guys called each other boyfriend girlfriend yeah do you wait did you say it's like off and on that's

Brian Atlaswhy I said situationship have you said I love each other I love you to each other yeah oh when you say it's off and on how many times has it been has there been a

Brian Atlasbreak I don't know a lot 10 plus no maybe like five five times okay five all right and then who's breaking up with

Brian Atlaswho he's breaking up with me breaking up with him so it's split is it split maybe three times you three times him yeah okay what are the reasons typically why you break up with him just Petty I like

Destinyto be Petty he likes to be Petty he's pett he's Petty who's pettier who's Tom Petty what does that mean petty petty is like he's yeah well you explain it you

Destinyexplain it he just like does something that he knows is to get all my nerves okay so he's like he's doing something out of spite and I don't do stuff out of spite but I just like to be Petty yeah

Destinyyou can be honest I don't like to intentionally hurt people like I just think I'm like I'm a real sweet kind of person so besides the petty besides the

Brian Atlaspett besides that yeah besides that stuff uh wait so okay H and then he breaks up with you also because of the pettiness yeah you guys are just breaking up so you guys are just

Brian Atlasstarting like arguments over nothing it turns into a big fight and then you're you guys are like breaking up basically yeah we don't really break up we just stop talking to each other for like 3

Veradays yeah and then you guys just get back together yeah so it's the makeup sex

Brian Atlashonestly it's never worth it no he's my man that's my okay well it's just I'm asking some of these questions cuz you said it was a situation I I guess I understand why cuz it's kind of on again off again but you

Brian Atlasguys love each other you call each other boyfriend girlfriend it's exclusive I mean I would say like I would say you're in a relationship but um yeah that's my man like if somebody if a really

Brian Atlasattractive guy really attractive guy who you would otherwise date if he approached you asked you out would you say you're single no would you give him your number no would you pursue him no okay yeah

Verayou're dating the guy all right what about you I am single into married so that possibly could mean I might be seeing multiple people but if you ask me if I'm single wait you're single until

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