HEATED DEBATE! She INSULTS Brian?! MAJOR DISAGREEMENTS! Woke Liberal Girls ANGRY?! | Dating Talk 278

Date: 2026-01-19

Duration: 9h 04m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTaylor (Alabama)>

AAlina (Russia)>

AAngelie Phillips >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lenley(guest)

SPEAKER_03Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Angelie Phillips(guest)

SPEAKER_10Bi(guest)

SPEAKER_11Sakura(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Abby (Twin)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Taylor (Alabama)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

ControversyBrian challenges Catholic twins on thirst-trap photos, cites 1 Timothy 2:9

Key MomentBrian cites 3 Bible verses on submission; Christian guests resist

ControversyLenley calls Brian misogynistic

Key MomentBrian has Sakura's full plastic surgery history: 2 nose jobs, boobs, fillers, Botox, Ozempic

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Sakura (JAV actress), twins Abby/Alice, Lenley (lesbian)

Christianity vs Instagram

Brian challenges Catholic twins on thirst-trap photos.

Biblical Submission

Brian cites Ephesians, Colossians, 1 Peter on wifely submission.

ICE Debate

Lenley calls Brian misogynistic over submission views.

Looks Ratings

Brian gives clinical facial analysis ratings.

Bow Video

Brian shows ex bowing. Debate on submission.

Body Count Round

Morgan 12, Sakura ~150, Lenley 6, Alina 2, Taylor 4.

Transcript

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Abby (Twin)>> you disagree though why is Um because everyone has like the right to do what they want. >> Okay. So, do Christians have the right to deny the Trinity? >> Uh, no.

Abby (Twin)>> Hold on. I thought I thought people had the right to do what they want. [clears throat] >> It depends what you want to do with your life or what you believe in.

Abby (Twin)>> Okay. So, can Christians be sex workers? >> I'm not sure. I mean I mean I mean the Bible probably does go against it but I mean if they really want to they could definitely goes against it.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So I I understand that you you can like you you can do all kinds of sin and heresy. You you can do it but I'm talking about uh should

Brian Atlas>> probably not. >> Pro why I don't know how it's probably but um okay so I haven't I think I've convinced your sister but I'm still cracking away. I'm chipping away at you

Brian Atlasboth here. Um, so the three Bible verses that I cited to, um, I guess I would ask you this. So, do you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Okay. It's not just a collection of optional opinions. >> No. >> Okay. Um, in 2 Timothy 3:16, it states,

Brian Atlas"All scriptures inspired by God." Um, so if scripture is God breathed, then rejecting clear commands is disagreement with God. Do you disagree with God? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So the scripture that I cited to you before, wives obey your husbands. Wives submit yourselves to your husbands, etc., etc. You guys are disagreeing with the scripture. So

Brian Atlasyou're disagreeing with God. Is that is that tenable as a Christian?

Brian Atlas>> No, it is not. Okay. Um, I guess on what basis do you guys decide which commands uh still apply and which ones you can discard?

MorganUm, I really believe that all commands do apply, but some people do have trouble with like sinning and not following commands at times. But I think

Morganthat everybody at some point in their life will like build themselves up to be able to be strong enough to follow those commands without breaking them. >> Mhm. So I think at some point in

Morganeverybody's life who is a Christian and who does believe in God and does follow his word, I think if they do break his commands, I think that they do still

Brian Atlashave the chance to like build discipline and start following his commands. >> Right. But if we're having a a conversation, you guys have a

Brian Atlasdisagreement with me about uh women being submissive in relationships. And I I guess if you guys were secular, I think you'd have really perhaps a strong

Brian Atlaswell, I would disagree with it being a compelling argument, but you'd have a stronger foundation to make your argumentation from. But when you tell me you're Christians and how the dynamic

Brian Atlaswould be in your own relationships, I I struggle like you guys are giving me a lot of leverage in my own position to be able to argue against you as it relates to submission. if you guys are

Brian AtlasChristian. So, I'm confused about the rejection of being submissive in a relationship when it's like clearly called for in the

Brian AtlasBible by God in scripture. Um Jesus affirmed that scripture is binding. Um he rebuked people for nullifying God's commands. So,

Brian AtlasI don't know. I think you guys kind of I don't I don't know how you navigate around the I don't want to be submissive, but I'm a Christian thing. >> But what if someone's like not Christian? Do they still have to submit

Brian Atlasto a man? >> Uh well, that that changes things. That's a different conversation. I'm happy to have that conversation, but first before we get there, which I'm happy to go there first, I need to

Brian Atlasfigure out I need we need to get to the bottom of you guys being Christians but rejecting submission. So, have I have I changed your view at all or are you still like, "No, [ __ ]

Morganthat. I won't be submissive." >> Um, I think once I find my husband, then yes, I will be like like this is my family, this is my husband. Like, there's no reason for me to like not be.

MorganBut I think boyfriend-wise, >> I don't think until he is my husband that I like am going to have to commit to being submissive. >> And would that be the same for you? probably. >> Would that be the same for you >> as what she said?

Brian Atlas>> Morgan said. Yeah. >> Um, yes. Like find your husband first and then >> But you wouldn't be like you you've been you wouldn't be submissive to a boyfriend. >> Well, that's not your husband. Boyfriend,

Morgan>> right? Okay. You wouldn't be submissive to a boyfriend. >> The submissiveness for a boyfriend would have to be 50/50 for me. So, like it would still like it wouldn't totally disregard like what he

Morganwants or like how he feels about certain things, but it also wouldn't [clears throat] be like >> I'm like submitting to him fully because he's not my husband yet.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Should men pay for first dates? >> It depends. If the man asks you, yes, he should pay, but if >> Have you ever asked a guy out on a first date? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you He probably still paid for it, right? Did you Did you pay for the first date when you asked for the guy

Brian Atlasout? >> I did not. only because he offered, but I would have paid. >> Wait, wait. So, the date, the one time you asked a guy out, he still paid for the date. >> Yes. >> Wow. Interesting how that works. You also did circle here in the

Brian Atlasquestionnaire, men should pay on first dates. So, uh assuming the guy asks you out, which is the fact women are almost universally never initiators,

Brian Atlasgenerally speaking. Uh so, given the fact that in practice men are the ones who do ask women out, should men pay for dates? Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, why? What's So, using your own logic, what's stopping men from saying, "Well, she's not my wife yet, so I'm not going to I'm not going to protect her. I'm not going to provide her for her

Morganuntil she's my wife." >> There's nothing stopping them from doing that. >> Would you like that kind of dynamic in your relationship? I

Morganwouldn't like it all the time, but if there's times where I believe like when you have a boyfriend, if you if he's paying for every single date, I don't

Morganthink that's right. I think it should be like I think that should be split like you guys still like like split it like dates should be 50/50 like oh you paid for this date, I'll pay

Brian Atlasfor the next date like and so on. >> Okay. Um, but you were saying how well you'll be submissive when you're finally married.

Brian AtlasUm, are there other things that you will hold back on until you're married? Like you would you clean for your boyfriend? Would you cook for him? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, you would do those things. Uh,

Brian Atlasbut you won't be submissive. So, if your boyfriend was like, "Hey, I don't want you to wear that." You'd be like, "Nah, I'm wearing this shit." Um, it depends on what it is. If it is

Morganlike super revealing and I know like it is, I will I won't. But if it's like, oh, like jean shorts that are just like fine. And if he's just being like like super controlling, I'm going to be like, this is outrageous. I'm going to wear

Morganthis. But I do know when it is too revealing and I know that I don't even wear stuff that's super revealing myself just out in public. Mhm. >> There has been times like at concerts I

Morganhave worn a couple revealing things, but it's never just like everyday regular occasion where I wear like like boobs out, butt out, like

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, what about you? What do you think? >> Can you repeat the question? >> Well, like would you be are you only going to be submissive to your husband

Brian Atlasor like most people will date for one, two, three years before they're even married? Uh, would you be submissive to your boyfriend >> or do you wait only He only gets

Taylor (Alabama)submission until you're married? >> Well, like I feel like it like depends on like the level of how much you love someone, how much you get to know them and like how long you guys have been dating and stuff. Like when it starts to

Taylor (Alabama)get really serious and stuff, then probably start and then he'll propose and then like you should be able to like be submissive.

Taylor (Alabama)only after he's proposed. >> Well, like when I said like things get like more serious and stuff like that because like if you're like starting to like just date a guy like after like a day or like a two days like it's just

Brian Atlaslike you you get there like it starts up and there's like um like levels in like a relationship. >> Sure. Well, even going ahead and granting that uh you know, it might be

Brian Atlasafter the first date, it might be a bit soon for a man to who you otherwise are interested in to be like, "Okay, I don't want you wearing dressing like this and uh going to the club or whatever." It

Brian Atlascould be potentially too soon, although I don't really object to it. Um let's say you've been together for 3 months at this point and you've had a title, your boyfriend, girlfriend. In that

Taylor (Alabama)circumstance, would you submit to him? Well, like I feel like it like gradually like, you know, like gets there. So like I don't know. I just feel like maybe like when it gets to like a point of

Taylor (Alabama)like a year, you guys know each other really well because even like like I don't know like a first date like you don't know them very well. You get to know them. You get to know their beliefs and their views. >> Yeah. But I'm talking like 3 months in when you're boyfriend girlfriend.

Morgan>> Well, yeah. >> So you'd be submissive then. >> Yeah. >> Would you or No, that's just marriage. I think um like boyfriends mostly 5050 but

Morganlike at the longer it goes on like a year, two years, three years, we would like build on. Obviously if I'm with somebody for a year or two years, three years, I'm going to assume them to be my husband. And so then it'll like slowly

Morganlike fade into that submissive transition. But I think if it's someone that I kind of have a feeling that it's not going to last or I'm not 100% sure,

Morganthen I don't think I'm going to like fully submit myself to somebody who I feel isn't 100% like committed to being my husband. >> Okay. Uh

Brian Atlasyeah, it's kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting. Um cuz I feel like, you know, when you're dating somebody, uh that that is sort of uh the temperature check for how they're going

Brian Atlasto be long term, how they're going to be in marriage. So like if I'm dating a girl and we, you know, it's our third date or, you know, we've been dating for 1 2 3 months and she doesn't want to cook, she doesn't want to clean, she

Brian Atlasdoesn't want she, oh, I'll do that [ __ ] when we're married. Uh, I mean, I'd probably dump her, but like that should be those things should not be reserved

Brian Atlasfor marriage. Those sh things honestly should be done upfront in the same way that you'd pro like imagine a guy. So, okay, if men were looking for like these feminine traits in women, we're looking for women to be

Brian Atlassubmissive, to follow our leadership, to be compliant, uh, to cooperate. Wouldn't it be weird if a guy was like, "You know what? [clears throat] Like you women

Brian Atlaswant to be masculine?" I feel like you would have you women would have massive issue if men were saying, "Well, I'm going to be really feminine for the first 3 months of our

Brian Atlasrelationship. I'm not going to lead. I'm going to be like deferring to you. Oh, uh, I'll never be like, "Okay, I'm um I'll pick you up at 7:00 p.m. We're going here." Blah, blah, blah. I'll never do that. I'll always Oh, what do

Brian Atlasyou want? I don't know. What do you want to eat? Oh, whatever you want. I don't know. I feel like y'all women would have an issue with that if men were like holding back on some of their

Brian Atlasobligations and duties in a relationship to be masculine, to be leaders, pay for dates, chivalry, protect, provide, etc. I think y'all would have an issue with it.

Alina (Russia)>> Yeah. But you shouldn't just submit to any guy like it. It should be somebody who you see as your future husband. Like if if any girl just started submitting to every guy that she went on a date with, that wouldn't be good either. Like

Alina (Russia)that if even if you're a Christian, that goes against those beliefs as well. Like you have the guy has to be reasonable and you have to be actually interested in being with him. Don't just submit to every guy.

Brian Atlas>> Well, of course, but you should be um you should of course like you shouldn't date somebody who you're not into. like doesn't doesn't make sense. >> Yeah, but there's a time period where

Alina (Russia)you obviously decide if that's the case, the first few months or whatever. >> You don't think they should have to prove themselves in a way?

Alina (Russia)>> You should be submissive in some ways, but like following everything that he says, that's something that like a long-term your long-term man would do or your husband would do. >> Yes, I agree with you.

Lenley>> Sorry, what was your question? Could you repeat it? It was, do you think that men should have to prove themselves in order for women to be submissive? Like, do you think they should have to provide

Lenleyfor women to be submissive or do you think like a man that has no job and is a bum, he should still have women be submissive to him just because he's a man?

Brian Atlas>> So, so I mean, I would say if as a woman you have chosen that guy who either he's not there, by the way, these are like 18, 19 year old girls. They're not

Brian Atlasdating a ton of money. I'm ass

Brian Atlaswealthy or maybe they're dating older men, a bit older men, whatever it is. Um, but I would say if you've chosen the guy,

Brian Atlasyeah, you better be submissive to him. Like I mean, why pick the like why be with a guy that you're not really feeling? Like if you've picked the guy, yeah, you should be submissive to him. >> That makes sense.

Brian Atlas>> Like and as the man, if you've picked the woman, like you should take on your roles too, but um in terms of his money and stuff, like [sighs and gasps]

Brian Atlasuh I I think there's a difference here. If if the woman is considering the guy's economic status as a factor of who or who she wouldn't date and she cares

Brian Atlasabout his finances, then yeah, she should pick intent like from the get-go a guy who has his finances together. >> So, but I mean,

Lenleyshould men build up what was your question? Should men build up to to it or what was Do you think that men should have to prove themsel in any way for women to be submissive or do you just think it should be default which I think default right

Brian Atlas>> I think it should just be be the default >> should be default >> but it ideally it should be the default in both ways both directions um I don't think men should necessarily hold back and I don't think women should

Brian Atlashold back now I'm not saying you need to like you know for example men should provide okay well it's your first date with a girl I don't think uh you know you're going to pay her rent, start

Brian Atlaspaying her rent or she's going to move in with you and you're paying the rent for your place on the first date. Obviously, I think you can have room to breathe in relationships. Um, but I

Brian Atlasthink in terms of general temperament, yes, I think women should like in the ways that women can be submissive early on, they should be in the ways that men

Brian Atlasuh men can provide, can protect, can be chivalous early on. In the ways they can be, they should be. That's what I would say. >> So, >> it's different for me because I always had a hard time being submissive to men.

LenleySo, I always had a hard time in relationships with men because generally I like to be the person that provides and takes on the more, you could say, masculine role. >> But I mean, you uh you're a lesbian.

Brian Atlas>> I am. >> And you've uh you haven't dated a guy since like how old? >> Since I was 18. >> You're providing at 18. >> No, when I was with men like

Brian Atlas>> But you said you took take on the more with women. >> Oh, with women. women, you take on the more masculine role. >> Okay. Well, I mean, lesbian relationships are a little bit different is the thing. Um, >> but uh

Lenley>> it's a little tricky. Like, if I ask a girl out, I pay for the date. Like, I plan the date. >> I see. Okay. >> But I think with women, like if she were to ask me out, then she should pay for the date and >> essentially plan it if she's the one

Brian Atlasthat asks me out. >> The woman, if she asks you out, she should pay. >> Yes. >> Okay. How many dates? Like how many first dates with different women have you been on? >> Two. >> Oh, only two. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, what what has your experience been with that?

Lenley>> With like first dates? >> Yes. >> Um I never really had a first date with my the first girl that I ever dated. We worked together so we just kind of started hanging out from there. >> Okay.

Lenley>> But I mean that's how >> I mean I guess technically we did have a first date at some point. >> Hold on. And I have a chat coming through from Grid One.

SPEAKER_00>> Welcome, man. Thank you. Thank you. >> Grid 1 Motorsports donated $2001. >> Oh, boy. >> The chat wishes to give notice that the overuse of the word like has been like

SPEAKER_00overused like so much. So could you beaches like chill? Like that would be like so rad. Also, patriarchy is the way.

Brian Atlas>> Guys, I've caught the like virus by the way. I've I look at my clips and I'm like, "Oh, fuck." I [laughter] It's a It's a virus. It's a virus. So,

Brian AtlasI've caught it doing the show. The girls say like so much that I start saying like. >> So, it's embarrassing. Honestly, I need to work on that. Um, okay. So,

Brian Atlashave I changed your mind at all or are you still gung-ho on not being submissive? Um, well, I kind of agree with like with what Morgan said, >> which was what?

Abby (Twin)>> Um, like as it gets more serious, then the submission would be fine. >> Okay.

Abby (Twin)100% fine or is it still negotiable? >> I feel like both men and women should submit to each other like in a relationship still. >> How does that work? um like you guys like talk about like

Brian Atlaswhat each other are comfortable with and like just listen to each other, set boundaries. >> Yeah. So, I mean I think it's totally fine to have conversations with your

Brian Atlasgirlfriend or wife and uh you know have conversations uh and get her input.

Brian AtlasHowever, I think once the uh once the guy's made a determination, that should that should be it. Do you agree with that or no?

Brian Atlas>> The determination of what? >> Oh, I mean it could be h Let me give an example that might be easy. I mean, we can just use the like uh wearing something

Brian Atlasrevealing thing. You're like, I want to go out wearing this. The the boyfriend's like, "No, I just said like again. [ __ ] [laughter] >> [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> It's bothering me." >> Uh, yeah. So, the the boyfriend says, "Don't want you to go out wearing that." I mean, it should honestly, you should

Brian Atlasjust be like, "Look, do you [laughter] do you girls want to get the guy?" Like, you're with the guy. Don't you want to please your boyfriend? Don't you want to get the guy? So,

Brian Atlas>> we already got him. >> Uh, I mean, >> I mean, >> the the moment here's the thing, though. The moment you cause friction in the relationship,

Brian Atlashe'll keep you around for sex, it's never it's over, though. >> I do the dishes. >> Over. The moment you introduce some [ __ ] like maybe minor friction some guys will tolerate. But the moment he's

Brian Atlaslike he's like, "Okay, this woman's gonna be nagging me for the rest of my life. Maybe if you're like hot and you give him [ __ ] he'll stick around." But it's like, "Oh, you want him to give you a

Brian Atlasring? You want him?" No, it's over. The moment you give him a friction, sorry. It's done. It's done. >> So, it's like I don't know. Maybe y'all y'all should defer a little bit.

Taylor (Alabama)No, >> I just want to say I will do laundry and I will wash the dishes and I will cook meals every night and every morning. Just putting that out there. >> Yeah. >> Well, it's like as a guy, you don't want

Brian Atlasfriction. I'll give you an example from from my own life, something I've encountered uh from time to time. So, I uh and and this can vary, but generally

Brian Atlasspeaking, I prefer sleeping in separate beds, separate rooms. Now I can't there are times like of [gasps] especially early on like first time

Brian Atlasfirst time she's sleeping over guest room or well it depends it depends the context um if she lives if she's

Brian Atlaslike visiting me separate guest room separate bedrooms if she's lives in the same city you can you can go home like you're not you're not spend you're not sleeping

Brian Atlasover uh I Guess she could stay in the guest room if she really wanted, but you're not sleeping over. And I've had times where I'm not a dick about it, but I'm just like I've had girls who have

Brian Atlascome out to see me, you know, I don't know, it was a couple years ago, whatever. I've had a girl who's come out to see me, like she flew out for two days or something, and you know, we're

Brian Atlashaving a good time, everything's good, and it's getting late. I'm like, "All right, well, um, hey, we should, uh, uh, getting kind of tired. Uh, I'm going to bring you to the guest room and I'll get

Brian Atlasyou all set up." And the girl freaks the [ __ ] out. Freaks out. Oh my god, I can't sleep with I can't I can't sleep in the same bed as you. That's how women talk, by the way. [gasps] Uh, they

Brian Atlaslose their [ __ ] [ __ ] and cause a bunch of friction. Like, I've had women crash out. Li, I'm not even joking. Like everything's gone good, everything's good. And I'm like, "Hey, um, it's getting kind of late. I think we're both

Brian Atlastired. I'm gonna set you up in the guest room." They crash the [ __ ] out. Oh, what the [ __ ] I can't sleep in the same bed as you. Lose their [ __ ] Crash out. I'm like, "This is this

Brian Atlasreally what you want to do?" Right before bed. And then uh I It's just It's terrible. And then like after that, I'm just like I've I lost interest. I totally lose interest. I'm like, cuz if

Brian Atlasyou're going to fight me on this, like I look, I think it's okay for women to want to like sleep in the same bed as the guy, I think that's totally fine.

Brian AtlasYou're not wrong for wanting that, but your response to me having this boundary and saying, "I want I want to put you in the guest room," which isn't like abuse. It's not abusive or

Brian Atlasanything. It's not You might be disappointed as a woman. Women need to regulate their response that you can be disappointed. You might you can even be

Brian Atlasa bit visibly disappointed. Um, but you shouldn't be trying to negotiate it with me. You shouldn't crash out. You shouldn't be like arguing and bickering and nagging with me. You should just be

Brian Atlaslike, "Oh, okay. Um, yeah, yeah, sure. Regulate. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fine." >> So, they're just mad that they can't sleep with you. Is that the whole problem? >> Uh, well, they're Well, we already slept

Taylor (Alabama)together, but they can't sleep with me like in my bed. >> But see, that's the thing. Like you're going to sleep with these women. You're going to put them down. You're going to lay down with them, but you're not going to lay down with them when it comes to rest. >> Nothing wrong.

Taylor (Alabama)>> So, see, how can you do the laying down part, but how can you be >> saying all these things and just not lay down with them? How can you just keep it? You're going to go you're going to be sexual with with them, but you can't even lay in the same bed as them. How is

Taylor (Alabama)that right? >> Uh what do you mean by right? Like, are you saying it's >> in your mind? How do you think that's right? that you it's okay for you to sleep with them and sleep with them. >> Are you making a moral like is it morally wrong?

Taylor (Alabama)>> Well, no. I just want to understand where you're coming from because like >> my thing is like I I want to know why you think it's okay to sleep with them but like you can't sleep with them with >> Yeah, I'm happy to go into that but really quick do you so do you think that

Taylor (Alabama)that's wrong? >> No, I don't. >> I mean at the end of the day I just want to know your understanding with it because >> you can do what you want to do. >> Okay. I'm not going to judge you on that front, but I want to know what goes through your head when you're doing those things.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Yeah. Yeah. I I I'll get I'll get right to that, but really quick, do you think it's wrong? >> No. >> Okay. Would you be upset if presented with that situation? >> I would not sleep with you and then be

Brian Atlaspresented with that option because I'm not sleeping with somebody who's >> they even going to present that to me. >> So, >> even the audacity of that. >> The audacity. Yes. Because I'm not

Brian Atlas>> the audacity of a man to have a boundary as >> I have boundaries also and I bound so your boundary your boundary would be if I sleep with you we're sleeping in the

Taylor (Alabama)same bed. >> No I'm not sleeping with you until we can both meet each other's expectations. >> I don't think he should sleep with me until I meet his his expectations which

Taylor (Alabama)is you know whether he's a traditional man or not. If he wants me to sleep with him, I should meet his expectations of being a rightful woman, a righteous woman before he sleeps with me. And he should be a righteous man before I sleep

Taylor (Alabama)with him. >> I see. Okay. So, um, you're Christian, correct? >> I am. >> Okay. What denomination? >> I mean, I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe he died on the cross for my sins. I don't really go into a denomination.

Brian Atlas>> Do you go to church? >> I don't. >> Do you read the Bible? Do you follow scripture? >> I do. Yes, sir. >> Okay. So you're saying let's assume is it possible that this a situation could

Brian Atlasarise where this before uh you sleep with a guy and this conversation had not

Taylor (Alabama)yet been parsed had not yet been uh had >> any Proverbs 31 woman is going to have this conversation before >> what conversation

Taylor (Alabama)>> you know we all desire certain things we should all have the understanding of each other's desires before we even get into bed with each other.

Alina (Russia)>> So you should understand if someone has a desire to sleep freely on their own bed and h like anyone can choose who sleeps in their bed. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. But you shouldn't lay down with

Taylor (Alabama)somebody and have sex with them and then expect it to be okay to just shove them out of your room. >> She's saying it's wrong. I think that in that sense if you're gonna >> if you're gonna what

Angelie Phillips>> if you're gonna uh them like you you should at least lay down and have cuddle with them a little bit. >> Well, hold on. >> Like be so serious. >> Well, okay. >> Don't just lay down and uh unless you're

Brian Atlasgoing to with them, too. Be for real. Just that's nice. That's kindness. That's courtesy. >> Well, no, not necessarily. So again, I'm just to be clear here when it comes to separate beds thing, I'm not saying like

Brian Atlasyou the first time that you ever have sex with a girl, you have sex with her, and then as soon as you climax, you kick her out of the room. That's not what I'm saying. >> It But it could be like you have sex with her and you continue to hang out

Brian Atlaswith her for 1 2 3 hours, you cuddle, you watch a movie. Uh, it's getting late. Um, hey, I'm going to set you up in the guest room. >> Well, that's a different story. >> Well, that's what I'm talking about here. So, >> well, thank you for that clarification.

Taylor (Alabama)I appreciate that. Yeah, but it sounds like you would still have a problem with >> I don't think I would put myself in a position where I would sleep with a man and that would happen to me because >> have Let me ask you a question though. Um, yes.

Brian Atlas>> You're not a virgin, right? [snorts] >> I am not, but I've only slept with two men. >> Two men. Yes. >> So, to to be clear though, cuz I feel like this separate beds thing is typically not something dis like really discussed at le I mean I guess some

Brian Atlaspeople could do it, but it is it's kind of a bit unique. It's a bit uh uncommon, I guess, would be the best word. You're telling me >> slept in separate beds. >> Of the two men that you've been with

Taylor (Alabama)prior to having sex with them, you double checked to make sure that >> like you got you could sleep together with them like like sleep. >> I slept in the same bed as them before I did have sexual. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> All right. >> It was like a little complicated things. >> It it was little cutesy stuff. Okay, how about this? I'll present and I do remember you did want me to explain my reasoning and I I promise I'll get there

Brian Atlasin just a moment. >> Um, let's say that was So, okay, the initially the guy was fine with it. >> Mhm. >> But he started uh noticing that when he

Brian Atlasdid sleep in the same bed as you, maybe he he was a light sleeper, maybe he had not like had girls do sleepover overs before, maybe he's not sexually experienced, whatever, whatever. What whatever it is, right? So initially he

Brian Atlaswas like, "Oh, it's probably fine." And then who knows, the girl snores, she moves in her bed, whatever it is, or just by virtue of having the presence of somebody else in his bed, it made it difficult for him to get a good night's rest.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Well, I've had those situations myself, you know, and I couldn't rest with a man in my bed. And I was with this man for 2 years, you know, I still couldn't sleep in the same bed as him. And I'd go into the basement and sleep in the spare room because of the snoring and >> wait,

Taylor (Alabama)>> you know. So, >> but that's what I'm saying. But I could sleep with him [laughter] >> for so >> a certain amount of time when we like were in the beginning stages, but as we got to know each other.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Speaking of a lot, it got a lot harder for us to be in the same bed because first of all, there was no intercourse. >> You're arguing against your own. Okay, go. >> That's fine. I guess I'm just I'm a

Angelie Phillipsblonde. Come on, Nile. Clearly, >> give me that please. The bleach has fried my brain. >> But hold on. So on one hand, you have this major objection to, [laughter]

Brian Atlasoh, if the guy won't like share bed with me, that's like a big problem. I wouldn't lay with a man who wouldn't lay with me. Um, but you >> Well, that that seemed to be the

Taylor (Alabama)intention behind your words was, "Whoa, Brian, I'm strongly objecting to what you're describing here. I think it's wrong when you just want to have sexual intercourse with a woman and you want to kick her out of the room.

Brian Atlas>> That was never the claim. You've totally Hold on. That's That was never my claim. Tell me, repeat back to me what my claim was. >> Pretty much you are okay with bringing a

Taylor (Alabama)woman out and you know, you guys do your thing and then you tell her, "Hey, look, you're going to the other room." That's pretty much what you said. Okay. You didn't give very much context when you said what you said. So, pretty much what

Taylor (Alabama)I had thought is, okay, you're just going to do your thing. Uh, uh, uh, get a gun and you're she's gone. She's at to other room. That's pretty much what's going through my head. And you had to explain it. So, thank you for giving me

Brian Atlascontext. I appreciate that. >> Okay. So, now with the the clarity and the context, so it's not just I'm being a, you know, a massive dick and it's

Brian Atlaslike like literally as I'm pulling out of her, I'm like, get the [ __ ] out of the room. No, that's not what's happening. What's happening is maybe we hook up, maybe we don't. She's going to

Brian Atlasbe spending the night. And the determination is, okay, I'm going to set you up in the guest room so that we have our separate sleeping spaces. We can

Brian Atlaseach get a good night's sleep. That that's the that's the idea there. Do you still object to that? Honestly,

Brian Atlasat the end of the day, I'm just a woman and I should be in a woman's place. >> Are you going to like participate in good faith? Like, I'm answering your

Brian Atlasquestions in good faith. So, I mean, that's just a troll answer. >> Well, I've already told you my opinion.

Angelie Phillips>> Can you speak into the microphone? >> I told you my opinion, and I'm so grateful that you gave me context. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. I just don't

Taylor (Alabama)I don't know if you should be with a person if you don't think you should be in the same bed with them. Even if you're having sex or not having sex, if you can't rest with them, I don't think you should be with them.

Brian Atlas>> So, just a reminder, you were dating. Of the two men that you have had sex with, one of which snored, you were not you were going into another room, sleeping on the couch. So, why were you with him?

SPEAKER_04It didn't last very long after that. That's for damn sure. >> But >> the beginning I was bamboozled in myself. >> But I'm a little bit confused. So >> I was disillusioned.

Brian Atlas>> Right. But why were you like if So what you're saying what I'm doing is wrong by wanting to sleep in separate spaces. You yourself >> I didn't say that was necessarily wrong.

Angelie Phillips>> You did. I meant the point of just having intercourse with a woman and then kicking her to another room. I felt that was wrong in that component. I didn't feel just a separate rooms was wrong.

Brian Atlas>> Your argumentation is so slippery here because you just said even even when I provided the clarification and saying it's not it's never okay, she's just come I'm just using her for sex. She's

Angelie Phillipsjust come over for sex and I'm immediately kicking her out of the room. You still had an issue. Your your position is this. If you sleep with a woman, >> she's good enough to [ __ ] her, then you might as well lay her in bed with you.

Brian AtlasThat's all. >> Okay. So, so let me let me pin you down to that position, though. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, your position is regard like removing varying degrees of context or whatever. Uh let's assume for your

Brian Atlasposition, >> let's say, um you know, it's not this sort of rude, she's just coming over for sex, then I'm going to kick her into the guest room right after sex. It can be

Brian Atlaslike Yes, we do have sex. And I'm not kicking her out like immediately, >> right? >> I wouldn't even categorize it as kicking out, but we continue to hang out the rest of the night. Maybe we get some

Brian Atlasfood. Maybe we [ __ ] again. Uh, and then maybe we watch a movie, we cuddle, and then we're both getting tired. Oh, hey. Um, let me get you set up in the guest room.

Brian AtlasYou said your position is if you're willing to sleep with the girl, you should be willing to lay with them like sleep with them in the same bed, right? So, do you have an issue with it in the way I just described it?

Brian Atlas>> I don't because I believe that's personal preference. And if I was to tell you you were wrong for having your own personal opinion, I would be >> a hypocrite. >> But it so it it is my preference. I get

Brian Atlasthat. But you said you also said if you're if you're willing to have sex with a woman, you should be willing to lay with her. Something to that effect, right? >> I mean, you should. Shouldn't you? If

Brian Atlasshe's good enough for you to put your your stuff into her. >> So, okay. Is my preference wrong then? >> It's your personal preference, but >> Well, I understand I can have the preference. Is it up to

Taylor (Alabama)>> I don't think you should be having a woman in your house and having intercourse with her and then shoving her into another room whether it's hours in between or not. Like if you're wanting to have intercourse with a woman, you should keep her as your

Brian Atlaswoman. >> Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Okay. So, okay. You you've you've uh dug in your heels a little bit on something that I can argue with now. Okay. So

Brian Atlas>> now I'll give you now but now I'll give you the justifications for why. So first off I think uh first off I think people regardless of like a reason or

Brian Atlasjustification for it I think somebody's boundary is reason enough. So I don't think I need to I shouldn't even have to explain it to a woman. I shouldn't even have to

Brian Atlasjustify it. I think me simply just having a boundary me in terms of my own I guess this would be a justification comfort comfortability uh if I just want to have my own

Brian Atlassleeping space uh and that's my boundary that in and of itself should be enough but I'm prepared to give you some reasons. So, one, I think, um, I think,

Brian Atlasyou know, look, if you're a [ __ ] controversial podcast host, who knows, you know, who knows? She's an [ __ ] assassin who came to [ __ ] and then murder you in your sleep or some

Brian Atlas[ __ ] I don't know. But jokes aside, a little bit, uh, I think in terms of sleep quality, there's really compelling arguments that people, uh, sleep better in separate beds, um, even if there's

Brian Atlasnot snoring from either partner. I do think it's the case that uh at least for me I know some people totally fine not an issue. It won't have any impact on your sleep quality. For me, sleeping in

Brian Atlasthe same bed as somebody does typically impact my sleep quality. Uh you know I'm I'm not a young gun anymore. I need I need my sleep time. Uh I need to be able

Brian Atlasto get some good sleep, get the beauty sleep. I need to be well rested um for my work. And honestly, just to be in in a good mood, to be in a good

Brian Atlasdisposition, I need a good night's sleep. So, for those reasons, uh I do prefer to have not to say that I can't do it, you know, whatever. Like sometimes, you know, maybe on Valentine's Day I'll be nice and she can

Brian Atlassleep in the same bed or whatever. Maybe our anniversary, sure, go ahead sleep at the foot of the sleep on the ground. What? No, I'm kidding. Kidding. But um generally speaking, I do like separate

Brian Atlasbeds because of the uh excuse me, because of the sleep quality component to it. And I think uh my sleep quality

Brian Atlassupersedes uh my girlfriend's desire to um have a little bit extra level of intimacy by sleeping in the same bed.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Do you want to respond? >> Who me? Yeah, I was I was answering your question. >> I mean that is totally your personal preference and I'm not going to give you

Taylor (Alabama)any hate on that. Where I come from, I would honestly feel rejected. >> It's not about rejection though. >> But I have to come from a woman's point of view and say, "Hey, look, if a guy is

Taylor (Alabama)looking at me saying I'm good enough to [ __ ] but I'm not good enough to lay in his bed, I don't want to be there, quite frankly." Why does it have to mean that you're not good enough though?

Taylor (Alabama)>> But and and it doesn't necessarily have to mean that. But that's how women's brains typically think. >> Yeah. But if I >> you go to worse mode. >> Okay. But if I say, "Hey, listen. This

Brian Atlasisn't like this is not a rejection of you. Um if I didn't have these uh issues with my sleep quality when I do share a bed, I would have absolutely no issue sharing a bed with you. It's not just

Taylor (Alabama)you. It's been with all past." And you express that though, that's a different thing. You ex you exactly uh put it the way you feel

Angelie Phillips>> and you give me the explanation. Okay. That's a different scenario opposed to somebody just being like, "Okay, one and done. Go to the next room." You know what I mean? It So, I give you your

Taylor (Alabama)respect because you at least put your your reasons why and you give them the option to respect it or not. So, kudos to you. Uh, I give her the option to respect it

Brian Atlasor not. Well, I give her the option to respect it. If she disrespects it, I mean, >> yeah, she's gone, right? >> Back to the streets, I guess. I mean, if she's really going to cause friction

Brian Atlasover it, like, um, it's going to be a major issue. But I think the origin the origination point here was about submission. And so, look, I think I

Brian Atlasthink as a woman, it's totally yes, probably a lot of women would prefer. Some women are totally cool with it. They're like, "Yes, I'm on board." Some a lot of women probably prefer to like sleep in the same bed. The point I'm

Brian Atlastrying to make when it comes to submission is um it's okay for you to be internally perhaps disappointed. However, you're not going to then nag me in an attempt to get compliance to

Brian Atlascoersse me to your will. >> Well, nobody should nagging you. >> No, no, no. But for example, I know like obviously look, you've been invited on a discussion show to have debate and discussion on these various dating

Brian Atlasrelated topics. If you gave me the level of fre like let's say hi we that was a role play right now that we just did and I had to walk you through all that [ __ ]

Brian Atlasto get you to finally be okay with uh what I'm putting down and >> you've just caused way too much friction >> and I agree >> that one deal with me >> like yeah what quite frankly now look

Brian Atlasagain it's a [laughter] different context I know of course you've been invited to come on a dating podcast and talk but if a girl gave me as much friction as you just gave. >> I'd say see you later. >> Bye-bye.

Brian Atlas>> Deuces. But my question is uh Well, >> I can be honest. >> You would be deuces, too. >> I would. I truly would. >> If if so, just to be clear, you just [ __ ] a guy and he's like, "Okay, hey, you know, um

Brian Atlas>> but that's where you miss me, though, cuz I just don't do it so quick." So, just to be clear, the perfect guy and you guys um you won't date him if he won't sleep in

Angelie Phillipsthe same bed as you. >> I didn't necessarily say that. I said more along the lines of I would feel offended. I I truly would. >> No, but you said you would. >> I feel rejected. >> Okay. >> Well, I mean to myself, yes, I would

Angelie Phillipsgive deuces to myself, obviously. >> No, but deuces. I'm crazy. >> Okay. But [snorts] um

Brian Atlasokay, I guess the point I'm trying to make here is uh ultimately uh you women, if you want to sleep in the same bed with a guy, that's that's fine. Although

Brian Atlasif the guy in his determination has said, "Hey, I'm going to get you set up in the guest room internally, fine, whatever." You're a little disappointed. You wish you could sleep

Brian Atlaswith him. You don't get it. You accept it. You keep yourself pleasant. You regulate your response and you accept it. >> Fair proposition. I don't know. Does >> Yeah, it's fair enough. >> It's mostly been me and her. Does anybody want to weigh in on the sleeping

Morganin the same bed thing? >> Um, I think it's a fine preference because at the end of the day, >> you're sleeping, >> right? >> You're sleeping. And if I really had a problem with it, I would just go home.

MorganBut I mean, I don't care if if I'm with somebody and they're like, "Hey, like I want you to sleep in the guest room." I'll go to the guest room and sleep because I'm sleeping. At the end of the

Morganday, I'm sleeping. And it doesn't. >> If I [clears throat] if I wake up in the morning and I'm like, "Oh, I want to go lay with him." Then I'm going to wake up, go in there, and go lay with him. But it's not something that I'm going to

Morganlike I'm not going to be upset if he's like, "Hey, will you go sleep in the guest room?" Because I do that sometimes, too. I'm like, "No." There you go. >> So, I don't think it's an issue at all. >> Anybody else thoughts? Anybody? >> I'll say something.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Yeah. >> I personally think that if a man is telling you that he wants you to sleep in a guest room,

Taylor (Alabama)how is it my place to like try and make him comfortable with something that he's clearly not comfortable with? That's just >> Well, you have no place trying to do that. And >> so do you have a place to tell a man

SPEAKER_04that you should sleep? >> I would never I would never tell a man what he should or shouldn't do. But you would argue >> but I wouldn't go and sleep with a man and then let him kick me to the guest room. That's what I'm saying you to the guest room. That's not what I'm saying. >> That's not what we're talking about

Taylor (Alabama)though. He even said he wants me to go and sleep in there. You know, I'll let it be what it is, but at the end of the day, I have my own house. >> He said that. Okay. Okay. You have your own house?

Taylor (Alabama)>> Yes, ma'am. So he said that he's not kicking her to the guest room. He would >> even cuddle with her, watch a movie, >> right? >> But if he's asking you to go to the guest room just to sleep, >> well, that's fine. But

Taylor (Alabama)>> but but >> it's just it's not fine because you said it's not the fact that it's like it's the first time with like the sleeping together aspect. You guys got to realize that too.

Angelie Phillips>> Like sleeping together is such an exchange of like souls and past If he's not like wanting to do that, >> why can't you sleep? >> Well, if he doesn't want to do that, that's fine. Sleep in different rooms. But like, how can you sleep with

Angelie Phillipssomebody and then just be like, I don't want closeness with you after you has you've been as close as you can get to somebody. >> Okay. So, if you got that close to somebody, >> right? >> Mhm. >> That would be one thing that you would

Taylor (Alabama)fight with him over, >> right? But he's like, you should be okay with that, you know? You should >> I mean, he's not comfortable. So you're saying that he should be okay with it

Angelie Phillipsbecause the audacity of >> sleeping after he just [ __ ] like you're saying >> I'm not saying that I would be okay with it. I never once said that. I said I would be quite frankly agitated about it. I wouldn't want to go in another room and I would never allow it to

Taylor (Alabama)happen like that actually. >> But you said earlier that you have had to go to another room because of the snoring and you couldn't handle it. Right. >> Well, that was also with somebody I never slept with. So

Angelie Phillips>> that's the difference. said as a woman. I don't think it applies to all women, but >> well, I mean, I am a woman. >> I'm a woman, too. And >> so, if we can relate on something, we

Angelie Phillipsdon't have to like just not relate all together. We can relate on certain things. You don't just have to be like off one side and against me, you know? We could relate on some things. >> How do you want me to relate to you?

Taylor (Alabama)>> Huh? >> How do you want me to relate to you? How on some things? Can you just not have any compassion in your heart at all? >> Are you just really that coldarted that you can't relate to? >> I'm cold-hearted because I disagree.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I'm not saying that. >> Can you speak closer to the mic, please? Mary, keep an eye on this if you can. >> You're really saying that? How are you supposed to relate to me? And I'm telling you, you can relate to

Taylor (Alabama)me just by having compassion in certain situations. >> But you didn't have you didn't have it with him whenever he wanted to sleep in his bed. Well, that's not true because I told him it was a fair point. And did

Taylor (Alabama)you ask like would you ask a man if you would sleep in his bed after he did it with you? Like you would ask a man, are we sleeping together right after this? And >> I'm not asking him that. Are you? >> I mean, you're just going to let him

Taylor (Alabama)take him. >> I wouldn't care if he wanted me to sleep. >> You're going to just be like, >> "Okay, I'm okay with him telling me to get the [ __ ] out of this room and go and sleep." >> He's not telling you to get the [ __ ] out. But even if he was or not, like >> But he's not your argument. >> But what if he is?

Taylor (Alabama)>> But he's not. >> Even if you slept with him or not, like it doesn't matter the >> I don't think that's anything at the end of the day. >> I don't think it's something to fight about. >> Well, it's not. It's really not. >> So, just go sleep in that bed. >> Okay. Well, >> or go home.

Alina (Russia)>> I would go home. >> I mean, he's letting you sleep at his house. Some women don't even get that. >> Well, I have a home, so >> Okay. I'm still trying to understand if that's just a really strong personal preference that you have or if you

Angelie Phillipsactually think it's wrong. >> I think honestly if you don't want to if you don't feel safe with sleeping with somebody, >> you shouldn't have them in your house

Brian Atlasperiod. >> Like how complicated is that? >> It's not. >> If you want to [ __ ] him and send him to the curb, send him to the curb. Don't send him to the guest room. >> That's so bad. Faith, I was obviously

Brian Atlasjoking about that. You need to contend with my actual true argument, which is it impacts sleep quality. >> Last one. >> Can you please

Brian Atlas>> can look every Look, please don't make us have to remind you again. You're too far away from the mic. This close to the mic. Can you do it? No. No. No. Like, get close to the mic. >> Yes, I can do it.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. I'm sorry, but I've had to ask you multiple times when you're speaking. Be this close to the microphone. Can you do that? >> Yes, I can do it. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. So,

Brian AtlasI'm just a bit confused here by the whole objection to the sep sleeping in separate bedrooms thing.

Taylor (Alabama)>> I feel like you see it more of as more as an objection instead of really where I'm coming from. It's not an objection.

Angelie PhillipsI relate to it in a certain capacity, but I also see another perspective of it as like you should kind of respect each other a little bit more than to do that with

Brian Atlaseach other if you don't even want to be together at the end of it. >> Okay. So when you say respect each other, what would it mean for the in this situation for the man assuming he

Taylor (Alabama)has this boundary of wanting to sleep in separate rooms, how does the man show respect to the woman while maintaining his boundary? >> Well, I mean, how does a man accept a

Brian Atlaswoman cooking for him? How does a man accept a woman doing all these things for him when he can't even sleep in the same bed as her? These are completely separate things. I I they they're it's

Brian Atlasincoherent what you're saying. So if a woman sleeps, if a woman cooks and cleans, I am now beholden to sharing a bed with

Taylor (Alabama)her. >> Not necessarily. But how can you sit there and just be like I have these certain qualifications and you have to have some type of like

Brian Atlasyou have to work together compromising >> there. What what's the No, no, no. There's no compromise. I think as it relates to something like this, uh

Brian Atlas>> the fact that you say there's no compromise means that you have no desire to work through it with your partner. >> What is Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that there's anything to work through here. I

Brian Atlasthink uh if I'm the guy who's making seven figures a year, if I'm the guy who's making seven figures a year and you're staying your ass at home, uh yeah, my sleep quality is going to

Brian Atlasimpact my ability to work. Yeah, that supersedes your shallow desire. >> But she's just staying at home. She's not just a one time thing. >> That supersedes your desire for a

Brian Atlasslightly increased level of intimacy that you desire. sleep quality supersedes that. And even if it didn't, as a woman, if you if you're a Christian

Brian Atlaswoman or you're you're in a relationship with a submissive dynamic, uh it doesn't matter. If he wants it to be separate beds, that's how it's going to be.

Brian Atlas>> That's fine. >> No, it's clearly not fine to you.

Angelie Phillips>> But so what is the compromise? Tell me what the compromise is. I mean, at the end of the day, you and your partner have to talk about that. The compromise is between both of

Brian Atlasyou two. It's not between my choices or my >> Are you Christian? >> I mean, obviously. >> All right. Do you believe uh do you believe women should be submissive to their husbands? >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, if your husband um once you're married has made a determination, he starts a new job and his sleep quality has become impacted by sleeping in the same bed as you and from here on out,

Angelie Phillips>> whatever daddy wants. >> What are you arguing? I don't know what you're arguing about. >> I'm not arguing anything. I'm agreeing with you on that one. But that's after you're married. If it's just a one-time situation, like, how are you going to do

Angelie Phillipsit on the first time? And that's where I was coming from at the beginning. I don't really have any disagreement with what you're saying. If you need better sleep, sleep. Like that's fine. But on a

Brian Atlasfirst time situation, like a first date, that I that's where I felt like it was wrong. And I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. >> No, but it seems like it's more than just that. It seems like it's wrong in

Brian Atlasother context, too. like when you're boyfriend and girlfriend and you guys have, you know, um been together for a period of time where there were opportunities for her to sleep over, but

Brian Atlasno, instead uh you have her set up in in another bedroom in the guest room. >> Well, like I said, I have no problems with that as long as that's a mutual understanding between the two of you.

Brian Atlas>> But you do have a problem with it because you said, "Well, why would you sleep with a woman?" Uh but not >> but I was under the impression you were talking about the first encounter >> and like I just >> I mean I'm fine with even in the first

Taylor (Alabama)encounter I'm fine with >> well from my >> separate bedrooms even then >> where I was saying I was under the impression you were talking about the first encounter and then you phrased it in the way it was after you were married. So I have different

Morganperspectives on those different scenarios. >> Okay. Any anyone have any other thoughts on that? What you got? Um, I personally

Morganknow a few married couples who do sleep in separate beds because of said sleep quality being affected. And that has no effect on their intimacy level. It has no effect on their like

Morgan>> their their affection towards each other, their like relationship health. It has no effect. It's just both of them understand that like >> it's what's going to be better for one person or the other. And it and it doesn't they don't let it affect them

Morgantoo much. >> Sure. Because like for instance, if your husband is snoring like crazy and you have work at 5:00 a.m. the next day

Morgan>> and you let him know like, hey, like I feel like nothing personal towards like it's nothing personal, but like the snoring, it just affects how I sleep. I feel like there should be no issue with sleeping

Brian Atlasin separate beds. >> I totally agree. Totally agree. And look, women can also want that too. The woman doesn't want to share a bed. She wants her sleep quality good. It's hard

Brian Atlasfor her. The guy snores. The guy moves. What? Whatever the reasons, right? He's too hot. She's too cold. Whatever it is. Uh Mary, did you show the first ones?

Brian AtlasYeah, it's like a different It's like a different thing. So, yeah. Um Okay, I guess new topic then. Um >> I don't know. We got some nonsubmissive Christian women's here. Christian

Brian Atlaswomen's. That's That's an interesting one. Um okay, let's get to uh Lenley. You have some notes though. Um I'm sure maybe you even wanted to weigh in on

Brian Atlassome of the topics, but uh you do disagree. You say you're pretty liberal, so politically there are a lot of topics we we would disagree on. Uh would you date an ICE officer?

Brian Atlas>> I would not. >> A woman a lesbian ICE officer? >> I would not. >> She's the hottest woman ever. >> I would not >> because of the ICE officer thing.

Lenley>> She's really hot though. I think that they abused their power. >> All of them. >> A great majority. >> The majority of ICE officers. >> And I think that if that's what you want to do as your job, then that's just probably not compatible with me

Brian Atlas>> personally. >> Enforcing the the laws of the United States is to be looked down upon >> because I don't agree with all of them.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um Okay. Uh what just curious what what do you think? Well, going around the table, would you date an ICE

Brian Atlasimmigration enforcement officer? I don't know if you might not. Well, you're going back to Taiwan, so >> you're Wait, you're Taiwanese, right? >> Yeah, Taiwanese.

Brian Atlas>> Is it like Can we Are you scared of China? Like, isn't is China going to invade you guys or what's going on? >> Uh, I don't really know that. >> You don't know about it? Okay. I don't know if we can talk I don't know if

Brian Atlasthey're allowed to talk about it. Right. Can they talk? Can you talk about it? >> Yeah, it's fine. >> Okay. I don't know. Sometimes I feel like they don't want to talk about that stuff. Um, is there immigration enforcement in

Brian AtlasTaiwan? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Here. We'll uh we'll go to you. Would you date an ICE officer? >> It depends >> on what? What about the guy who shot the woman? >> Oh my god. >> Yikes. That was a Hey, that was that was

Brian AtlasI shot from the hip there. >> It's a low blow. [laughter] >> The one that hit the girl. Okay, disregard that. Um, would you date an ICE officer? >> It really just depends on the type of person they are. >> Yeah, he's a good guy. You like him? >> If he's a good guy, I like him and he >> But that's his job.

Morgan>> At the end of the day, that is his job. But if he's not the type to if he's just doing his job, doing what he's supposed to do, at the end of the day, that's not really my like if I like him for who he

Brian Atlasis and he's just doing his job, I don't see an issue with it. >> Well, you're married, so what's your husband do? We met doing security at a hospital. >> Is he still doing security?

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