HEATED DEBATE! She INSULTS Brian?! MAJOR DISAGREEMENTS! Woke Liberal Girls ANGRY?! | Dating Talk 278

Date: 2026-01-19

Duration: 9h 04m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTaylor (Alabama)>

AAlina (Russia)>

AAngelie Phillips >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lenley(guest)

SPEAKER_03Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Angelie Phillips(guest)

SPEAKER_10Bi(guest)

SPEAKER_11Sakura(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Abby (Twin)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Taylor (Alabama)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

ControversyBrian challenges Catholic twins on thirst-trap photos, cites 1 Timothy 2:9

Key MomentBrian cites 3 Bible verses on submission; Christian guests resist

ControversyLenley calls Brian misogynistic

Key MomentBrian has Sakura's full plastic surgery history: 2 nose jobs, boobs, fillers, Botox, Ozempic

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Sakura (JAV actress), twins Abby/Alice, Lenley (lesbian)

Christianity vs Instagram

Brian challenges Catholic twins on thirst-trap photos.

Biblical Submission

Brian cites Ephesians, Colossians, 1 Peter on wifely submission.

ICE Debate

Lenley calls Brian misogynistic over submission views.

Looks Ratings

Brian gives clinical facial analysis ratings.

Bow Video

Brian shows ex bowing. Debate on submission.

Body Count Round

Morgan 12, Sakura ~150, Lenley 6, Alina 2, Taylor 4.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, uh, >> hey, you don't like it either, girl. >> Yeah, girl. I don't like it. >> So, I mean, again, if if a so if a woman doesn't enjoy giving head, does that

Brian Atlasmake her a lesbian? Wait, it doesn't make her a lesbian. But >> how about if I reframe it like this? And I think that this might stump you.

Brian Atlas>> What if I don't consent? >> Then you're not having sex with her, right? >> But if so, if I frame this from a consent angle, I don't consent to give a

Brian Atlaswoman head. Does that make me a homosexual? But you're having sex with her. You just don't. >> Yes, I'm having sex with her. But I But your position is even if you have sex

Lenleywith women and you've only had sex with women, but you don't get >> I don't think that makes you fully homosexual, but there's something weird about it. Like, how are you going to be fully attracted to women? >> But are you trying to coersse my

Brian Atlasconsent? It seems a little weird as a woman to try to shame me to to coersse my consent to I I don't know. >> I'm just >> Isn't consent really important?

Lenley>> It is really important. >> Do you think you should in order to get consent? Do you think it's fair to shame somebody to coersse them? >> I'm not shaming you. I'm just saying that my personal opinion is that it's a little gay.

Brian Atlas>> Seems kind of problematic. Like I don't consent to giving women head and you're trying to coersse me a little bit. I feel like it's a bit problematic on multiple levels. >> I'm not making you. You would make that

Brian Atlasdecision on your own. >> Can I ask you a question? If you if you overheard some frat guys calling women lesbians for not sucking dick, >> would you be like kind of upset by that?

Brian AtlasLike would you find that like immature or incensed or whatever? I'd be like, "All right, if that's what they think, >> but you wouldn't be like, "Wow, that's immature."

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, how about this? If a woman does give head but doesn't swallow, does that make her gay? >> No. >> That doesn't make her gay. She's giving head. >> Yeah, but she doesn't swallow.

Lenley>> She's a quitter. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. She's quitting. [laughter] She's not a team player. >> Okay. But not everybody wants that. And like it's a texture thing for a lot of people probably.

Brian Atlaswhich I get. Okay, I get I get that [ __ ] is too, but whenever I was with men, I did give them head. >> Did you Did you swallow? >> I did. >> Okay. Well, congrats. I guess >> I didn't I didn't enjoy it. >> Did you regret it, I guess?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> So, look, ultimately, >> I just think it's a little gay both ways. Like, both. It's not logically It's not logically coherent. Alina asked you the good question here. By your

Brian Atlaslogic, lesbians who don't give oral sex uh are secret are secretly straight and straight women who don't give [ __ ] are lesbians. Do you hear how stupid that sounds? >> I don't think it's as black and white as that.

Brian Atlas>> I think it is that black and white. >> I don't think >> I think sexual orientation is about uh who you're attracted to, not which sex acts you perform.

Brian AtlasOkay. >> [snorts] >> Uh, Morgan. >> Oh. Oh my god. Where? How am I forgetting all these notes? Uh, >> we talked about that. >> Yeah, we already went over it. >> Crazy ex-boyfriend. Crazy dates with psychos.

Morgan>> Not really. Like just like a bunch of weird guys. Nothing like mostly that >> was it Freddy? It was [laughter] [ __ ] Freddy, wasn't it? >> What was it? What was he into feat things or what was it? What was it?

Morgan>> He was just crazy. He was like cra Yeah, he was crazy. like he cheated on me a bunch of times. I I don't know how many times. Didn't ever

Morgancount. But then he would freak out that I was like he had a curfew for me or tried to. I wasn't allowed out past midnight.

Morgan>> Mhm. Damn. >> Um I like if I was out I had to be in in someone's house. Like if I was staying with Alison, I would have to be in their house by midnight or in my own house by midnight.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> And my parents didn't even have a curfew for me. Or like he was just like >> I think women Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Morgan>> He was just like a like a weirdo. Or like when I broke up with him, he kept like it was awful. He was like door dashing me flowers every week after I ended

Morganthings with him. >> And he kept like calling me like leaving me all these like voicemails. It was he was just crazy like a psychopath. >> In front of all of you, we're going to

Brian Atlasdo the makeup removal segment. That's the last thing pretty much. Uh who's down to take their makeup off? >> Me. >> Me. >> Yes. Yes. No. Yes. No. No. No. Really? Sakura? I thought we were friends.

Brian Atlas>> I thought we were homies. I don't do it in front of any video. >> You'll do it. My hotel. >> Alice, >> you'll do it. You'll do it. Alina, you do it. >> Should we start now? >> Yeah, start now. Start now. Go ahead. >> Good morning. >> Uh, save it though cuz you're going to

Brian Atlashold it up. You're going to hold it up when you're done. Uh >> oh. >> Okay. Oh, speaking really quick. I think this is my basically my final question. Uh, you're talking about gay things. Um,

Brian Atlasis it gay for a man to date a trans woman?

Brian AtlasI think it falls under the umbrella >> of gay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Fair take >> into the mic. Yes. No. Is it gay? >> Yes. >> Is anybody here trans?

Brian Atlas>> Well, I'm just >> I'm not a trans. >> Raise your hand. I mean Huh. >> I'm not a trans blender. >> Okay. Is it gay to Is it gay for a man to date a trans woman? Morgan. >> Yes. >> Stanley.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Is that a man that turns into a woman? It's a woman that turns into a man, right? >> Transwoman is Yeah. >> is uh So you're male, >> but your gender identity is that of a woman. So you are a man.

Brian Atlas>> That's gay. >> Gay. >> No. >> Not gay. >> No. >> Okay. >> No. >> Not gay. >> No. >> Alice, >> what? >> Sorry.

Brian Atlas>> You guys got to stop [ __ ] whispering between each other. Uh, is it gay for a man to date a trans woman? Your sister says no. Do you agree? >> It's not gay. >> Not gay. Okay. >> I think it is.

Brian Atlas>> You think it is, Alina? Gay. >> It also depends on if they have like bottom surgery or not, >> I guess. >> Still still >> to date trans women. >> Still gay. Still even. >> I mean, I I think it's under the umbrella. >> That cuz that's not [ __ ]

Lenley>> It's under the umbrella. Like I personally I don't have anything against transgender people, but I would not date a transgender person. Just personal preference. But it >> so I understand >> I would [clears throat] say even whether

Brian Atlasit's before surgery, after surgery, >> still gay. >> It's still under the umbrella. >> Still gay. Even if they've got the fake vagina, still gay. That's not >> I can agree with you on that.

Brian Atlas>> Not [ __ ] >> We can You've encountered [ __ ] I've encountered [ __ ] Uh >> have you ever encountered? >> I've not encountered trans [ __ ] >> How do you know? Whatever. How do you know what they look like? I don't know what they look like. So,

Brian Atlas>> well, I mean, I just know human anatomy and uh I know that uh even with surg surgery, like you can't transplant a vagina. >> Like they just put a hole in

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> put a hole in there. That is not [ __ ] >> Where does a hole go to? >> I have >> That's my real question. >> That is a good question. Giant. >> Yeah. Like they have like sex like

Abby (Twin)>> Well, it begins. But you think not gay? Why is that? Why is it not gay? >> So, male to female, female to male, female to either one. >> Um, well, it's not gay because I mean

Abby (Twin)it's what they want to identify as. Even though if they don't have like the correct part, it's still like their identity. >> Okay. Alice, what do you think? >> It's gay. >> Oh, it is gay. Okay. [laughter] She

Brian Atlaschanged. >> You're fine. You're fine. So, okay. Ab Abby. Um, what is a woman? Um, a woman is a a woman. Like >> a cat is a cat. Is that helpful

Abby (Twin)definition? >> No. I mean, okay. Biologically, a woman is a person who has like a um a vagina. >> Yeah. [laughter] But you you think that trans women

Abby (Twin)>> um >> can have neo vaginas? >> Um >> right. >> I'm not sure what they do down there if they do become trans. Um, I know that some of them may tuck it, but

Abby (Twin)>> is that a vagina? >> No. But they can still consider themselves to be like a woman. Like if they really feel like that >> I feel like that me kind of. >> It offends you. Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz like how can a guy go and say

Brian Atlashe's a woman, you know? >> Wait, really quick on the makeup segment. Can everybody hold up their makeup lights? >> Wait, I'm almost done. >> Oh, okay. She's still working on it. >> All right, hold it up. Show us the damage over here. Show us the damage.

Brian Atlasshows the damage. Okay. All right. There it is. There's the >> There's the damage. >> Okay. [laughter] All right. Uh, >> we don't look that crazy. >> Well, you still got your lashes in, so don't get too >> Well, I can't take them off. I need the

Brian Atlasremover. >> Um, okay. So, not gay. >> No. >> So, and so what is a woman? >> A person who has a vagina

Brian Atlas>> going around the table. What is a woman? Um, oh gosh,

Lenleya woman has a vagina. So, I feel like if you have bottom surgery, then you could consider yourself a woman. But I think before that, >> no.

Brian Atlas>> I'll save my response. What is a woman? >> She felt she's a woman and she is. >> Okay. She feels if she's a woman, she's a woman. >> A person with a vagina. person with a

Brian Atlasbut like would you consider a trans >> a person with a uterus? Let's How about that? >> How about somebody who was >> born a woman? >> Okay. What is a woman? >> I think it's double X chromosomes.

Abby (Twin)>> Okay. What is a woman? >> Person with a uterus. >> Well, I mean trans women would not be women. >> Well, they can still be a woman. They're just trans.

Brian Atlas>> But you just said a woman is someone who has a uterus. Trans women don't have a uterus. >> I'm not really educated on like the trans community, so I I I can't really speak on it. >> What is a woman?

Sakura>> They genuinely feel like they're woman on the inside. I respect them and I think they are ladies. >> Okay. >> What was the

Taylor (Alabama)>> What is a woman? >> Um, a woman is a person with a uterus and but Morgan said a vagina.

Taylor (Alabama)>> Okay. What is a woman? A woman is somebody that is born with a uterus and

Taylor (Alabama)ovaries and normal functions and hormones that women fluctuate with that men do not. >> Alina, >> adult human, female.

Brian Atlas>> I agree with Alena's definition. It's a a woman is an adult human female. Uh you can't you can argue that you can change your gender. You can't change your sex.

Brian Atlasthat's immutable or well it's not changeable anyways. So,

Taylor (Alabama)can a man get pregnant? >> No. >> No. >> Trans women can't either. >> Well, I mean, can a woman become a man?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> So, a a man could have a vagina and a uterus. Um, if he's interex. >> No, because you're talking about gender

Brian Atlasidentity. If a man can become a woman because they're transgender, uh, wait, sorry, what was the [ __ ] [laughter]

Brian AtlasWait, no, no, no. Sorry. For Wait, yeah. Can a man Wait, I'm Can a man get pregnant was the question. >> No. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> But hold on. If a woman can become a man, she has a uterus and a vagina. >> So men can get pregnant from your perspective.

Abby (Twin)>> Wait, so like someone who's trans, like say they're like >> they're trans >> male to fe wait female to male. >> A trans man. >> So >> trans men can get pregnant, >> I guess. So,

Morgan>> right. >> Is that biological male or female? I >> I'll just break it down. I'll break it down. [laughter] >> It's really confusing from here. like a biological female. >> Yeah, it's super simple. >> Trans.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. Okay. Okay. Got you. >> You can't change your sex. Uh so ultimately you say it's not gay. No. >> Two two males. So let me ask this. Two males. So you acknowledge that a male

Brian Atlascan have a gender identity as a woman, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. So there's their sex, which is male, and their gender identity, which can be well man or woman, right?

Brian Atlasuh you can't change your sex. So, two males having sex, this does meet the definition of homosexuality. Yeah. >> Regardless of their gender identity.

Brian Atlas>> Cuz when we're talking about sexuality, >> we're not talking about it's baked into the word itself, sexuality. It's

Brian Atlasreferring to uh your attraction to the sex of the person. So this is why we say same sex relationship, opposite sex relationship, opposite sex attraction

Brian Atlaswhen we're talking about sexuality, that's your attraction to the other person's sex. So in this case, homosexuality would mean two males. So two males, even

Brian Atlasif one of them or both of them, I guess, their gender identity is all [ __ ] up. The gender identity of one of them is woman. So, a man and a woman, but they're both males. That would still be

Brian Atlasgay. >> Um, you know, it's however you want to perceive it. Everyone labels themselves differently. >> Abigail, you got to go a little harder here. You can't be Abigail. Come on. By

Morganthe way, you're in Michigan. Like, who gives a [ __ ] >> Is it Is it liberal in Michigan? What's going on? >> I have no idea. >> It's like It's like pretty blue. It's pretty blue in Michigan. >> I thought it was Republican. It noticed. >> This year it turned red, but Michigan.

Brian AtlasEvery other year it's been blue. Every other year it's been blue. Yes. >> Good job, Andrew. >> Yes, it has been blue every single year besides this year. >> Well, okay. I guess L for Michigan then.

Brian AtlasUm, look, Abigail, come on. It's not that hard. Men, women, super simple. Okay, how about this? You see

Morgana dude sucking the dick of somebody wearing a wig. >> Maybe is that gay? [laughter]

Morgan>> Okay, wait. I have a So, but what is the other Okay, so Okay, you go. >> If I think of me forget Forget that I'm your friend. >> Okay, >> wait. Into the mic. Into the mic. >> Forget that I'm your friend. If I

Morgantransition into a man and I wanted to and if I wanted to do stuff with you, would that make you gay? >> No. >> Oh. >> And I still had a vagina. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Thought you would eat her [ __ ] >> No. >> I wouldn't do any [laughter] guys. I wouldn't do any of that. >> What? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. I think uh that is that is pretty

Alina (Russia)much it. Any any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up? Alina, can you read this? If a blue collar man and a white collar

Alina (Russia)man both make 100k a year, which one which would the panel prefer and why? >> Blue collar. >> Blue collar. >> Blue collar. I work blue collar. So,

Lenleyblue collar. >> I like white collar. I'm a dog groomer. That's considered blue collar. >> A dog worker. >> Dog groomer. >> Like a like an animal stylist. Yes, it's considered a blue collar job

Brian Atlasbecause it's physical labor. >> Yeah, I'll accept it. I will accept. Uh, any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up here? >> Uh, Mary, pull up Twitch really quick, guys. Go to twitch.tv/ whatever. Drop us

Brian Atlasa follow and a prime sub, guys. Holy [ __ ] Oh my goodness. It's 1,400 viewers and it's been [ __ ] two hours since

Brian Atlaswe've had a prime sub. I object. I'm very upset. I'm hurt. I'm depressed even. I You know what? I'm really upset by this. I Well, hey, the followers

Brian Atlascoming in are helping out, guys. Check if you have a prime sub available. Drop a little prime sub. Show us some love over there on TW. Oh my goodness. He is on fire. Malasort. GG. Thank for the prime. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Brian AtlasAppreciate the support over there. Oh my goodness. Barracuda Druid. Oh, this guy's a World of Warcraft player. Thank you, man. Really appreciate the support. Vortek. There it is. See, I got to I got to do this more often. Yo, thank you for

Brian Atlasthe prime vortex. Very much appreciate it. Thank you for the follows, guys. Appreciate it. All right, there it is. Folks, >> it's up to me next. >> All right. Um, uh, let's see what else. Okay. Uh, I

Brian Atlaswill do the outro here. I'm going to wait until our good our home girl is back from the bathroom just to say to do the outro. But, uh, >> yeah. Any any final thoughts from anybody while we're just waiting for our good friend?

Brian Atlas>> Is it BB? >> Baby B. Baby, >> we're trying. We're trying to wrap this [ __ ] up. >> Don't stop doing cocaine in the

Alina (Russia)bathroom. >> So, I named a World War II airplane. Where is my $2 bill? >> You don't count. >> Where's my reparations for being a Slav slave? >> Oh, that's a good question. >> Okay. >> We were supposed to have a black.

Alina (Russia)>> My people were enslaved first cuz slave comes from Slav. Yeah, that's true. >> So, I need my calling. Where's my reparations? >> That is so true. There she is. All right, let's wrap this up. All right. So, um,

Brian Atlas[sighs] what are we forgetting, Mary? Or >> nothing. >> Nothing. Oh, yeah. Uh, ultimately, um, >> let's go. >> Thank you guys. Thank you. Uh, I want to say GG.

Brian Atlas>> Well played. >> GG. Well played. Thank you guys. Fun show. You guys were dope. Uh, last call. Hit the like button, please. On the way out, leave a nice comment once the live ends. I read them. Positivity is nice. helps the algorithm. Thank you for

Brian Atlastuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, supports the show. Couldn't do

Brian Atlasit without you guys. We'll be live again Sunday 5:00 p.m. Pacific. Uh any girls who are watching, DM whatever if you want to be on the show. Oh, party. Damn,

Brian Atlasbro. Party fam. What the [ __ ] Uh, okay. Let's see here. I think that's everything. Are we Are we forgetting anything? No. >> Feel like I'm forgetting something. >> Pull that bottom one out. Pull the bottom out.

Brian Atlas>> What are we forgetting? What are we [ __ ] We did the Yeah, we're good. All right. Uh 07's in the chat. 07's in the chat. Good night,

Brian Atlasguys. Good night. And we will see you next time. Good night, guys.

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