HATERSEXUAL?! Dating A Prisoner? Ankle Monitor Dating? Q! Andrew Wilson! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #201

Date: 2024-10-02

Duration: 7h 14m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSavannah (Huntington Beach)>

GGabby (Santa Barbara)>

KKendra (DT201)>

TTurkish (DT201)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Q (The Q Pill)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Savannah(guest)

SPEAKER_04Emma(guest)

SPEAKER_05Gabby(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Maty Fuller(guest)

SPEAKER_09Turkish(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kendra(guest)

SPEAKER_14Andrew Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens Dating Talk #201. Guests introduced: Savannah (18, HB, dog sitter), Gabby (29, SB, dispensary+med spa), Maty Fuller (18, SD, poli sci/radiology CC + behavioral interventionist), Kendra (25, PA, TikTok+Marine Science grad), Emma (22, SB, CC+pet shop), Alex (26, SB, artist), Turkish (24, LA/Australian, Twitch streamer). Co-hosts: Q and Andrew Wilson.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”

QuoteSavannah (18) reveals her boyfriend went to jail for Grand Theft Auto and assault 3 months into their 10-month relationship. She never visited him in jail; ended it after ~14 months total.

“he was in jail uh for for what uh Grand Theft Auto and assault”

QuoteMaty Fuller discloses she cheated on her last boyfriend — a kiss with someone who intellectually stimulated her. A mutual friend told the boyfriend; he ended things. Boyfriend was a football player who couldn't hold intellectual conversations.

“I messed up big time yeah I messed up normally don't hear that kind of honesty um how many people did you cheat on him with one”

QuoteEmma reveals she went to a stranger's apartment at 10pm, thought he was on drugs and might kill her, yet still had sex with him — contradicting her stated preference for the bear over a random man.

“she went over to a guy's house at 10pm you just met him and you slept with him within an hour”

Quote'Hater sexual / heterosexual' TTS misread: chat donor types 'hatersexual' meaning 'heterosexual' — Brian and Andrew riff on it, Brian immediately decides to change the video title to include it.

“hater sexual wait I'm going to change the title of the of the video to include hater sexual”

QuoteQ discloses last 3 serious girlfriends had a combined body count of 3; his last 2 girlfriends were virgins. His own high body count came from women pursuing him (was a Shade Room 'zaddy' with 5000+ DMs). He prefers innocent/wholesome women.

“the last three women that I dated had a combined body count of three my last two girlfriends were virgins”

QuoteAndrew Wilson admits he would save his family over the world if given the choice, despite acknowledging it is the 'immoral' answer. Cites male tribal loyalty instinct.

“I think I would save my family a respect yo crazy Ace thank for the gifted 10 subs and by the way I also think that's the wrong answer that that's the immoral answer”

QuoteGabby's body count of 11 finally disclosed after Brian plays motivational 'do it' audio repeatedly. She had previously declined to answer multiple times.

“11 oh I I said it this is the third time this the third time”

QuoteSelf-ratings round: Savannah=6, Emma=4.5, Brian=6.5, Alex=9 (highest), Maty=5, Kendra=5, Q=~6.3, Turkish=5, Andrew=4 (lowest, 'for sure or less').

“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead um six we should have asked this before we got into the rating stuff but I'm like a strong four and a half”

QuoteBaby daddy story: Gabby approached a woman at 7-Eleven to set up a threesome (at baby daddy's suggestion); woman became baby daddy's new drug connect; they later had a baby together ~4 months after Gabby's breakup. Gabby says she was happy for them when she saw the baby.

“I walked into a 7-Eleven I complimented her and then she ended up taking us to her friend's house that was down the street”

QuoteGabby reveals baby daddy told her he was gay after she told him she was pregnant (planned pregnancy). He had shown bisexual tendencies throughout their relationship.

“he actually told me he was gay after I told him I was pregnant after planned pregnancy”

QuoteAlex defends dating a man ~20 years her senior. Rates him 10 (objectively ~9 per panel). Says she was attracted from first sight; he has dated celebrities.

“he is a tan I was attracted to him from the very first you know time I saw him and I mean he's dated a lot of celebrities in the past”

Topics Discussed

Stream intro and guest introductions

Brian Atlas opens show, announcements, guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Guests: Savannah (18, HB, dog sitter), Gabby (29, SB, dispensary), Maty Fuller (18, SD, CC student/behavioral interventionist), Kendra (25, PA, TikTok + Marine Science grad), Emma (22, SB, CC student/pet shop), Alex (26, SB, artist), Turkish (24, LA from Australia, Twitch streamer). Co-hosts: Q (31, behavioral scientist) and Andrew Wilson (political analyst).

E-girls, anklet monitor dating, prisoner dating (title topics)

Topics from show title (HATERSEXUAL, Dating a Prisoner, Ankle Monitor Dating, E-GIRLS) stem from: (1) Savannah's story about dating a boy who went to jail; (2) the 'hater sexual / heterosexual' TTS misread that became a running joke and the episode title; (3) e-girl discussion referenced in body count/appearance contexts; (4) ankle monitor references likely from viewer TTS/chat questions.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking each guest their current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, who ended it and why. Highlights: Savannah's boyfriend went to jail for GTA+assault 3 months in; Gabby has a 2yo son from prior relationship; Maty cheated (a kiss) on last boyfriend; Kendra broken up with over a missed phone call in church; Emma single 4 years, picky about men making moves too fast; Alex dating older man (~20 yrs senior); Turkish values emotional connection over looks.

Bear vs. man debate

Brian poses the viral bear vs. man in the woods question. Most women initially choose bear. Extended debate about male violence statistics, random men's intentions, and the disconnect between choosing a bear but sleeping with strangers. Q cites that 80% of assaults are by known persons. Andrew points out Emma went to a stranger's apartment despite 'bear' fears. Percentages of men who would assault: Kendra says 50%, Maty says 75%, others lower.

Hookup culture and waiting to have sex

Discussion of women who have had casual sex but then make new partners wait. Brian's 'conundrum': women willing to sleep with casual partners quickly but withhold from men they see as long-term. Andrew introduces concept of 'faking virtue.' Q discusses neurophysiological basis of attraction. Reddit post read: woman who slept with FWB while making boyfriend wait — he broke up with her when she confessed.

Why do men avoid commitment — secular vs. religious marriage

Andrew asks the table: what is the incentive for a non-religious man to get married? Extended discussion of marriage as a bad deal for men, secularism, Q's explanation of lying about intentions. Andrew argues marriage is understood best through religious framework.

Car analogy and body count debate

Chat sends car analogy (0-mile vs 200K-mile car = virgin vs high body count woman). Alex objects to comparing women to inanimate objects. Andrew and Q defend the analogy as a useful articulation of male preference. Extended argument about vintage cars with zero miles. TTS from chat adding to debate. Brian summarizes: men prefer 'going vroom' — being first.

Looks ratings round and OKCupid data

Brian asks everyone to self-rate on 1-10 scale (can't pick 7). Ratings: Savannah=6, Emma=4.5, Brian=6.5, Alex=9, Maty=5, Kendra=5, Q=~6.3, Turkish=5, Andrew=4. Brian shows OKCupid chart: men rate women on a bell curve; women rate 80% of men below average. Discussion of women having inflated self-ratings relative to what men can realistically commit to.

Religion, Islam, and eschatology

TTS asks Andrew about his stance on Islam. Andrew explains as Orthodox Christian he argues with Muslims because denying Christ's divinity is fundamental offense. References Quran and Hosea (God asking to marry a prostitute). Brief discussion of Prophet Muhammad's age at marriage. Andrew avoids eschatology (end times) as his weakest theological area.

Toxic relationships and men's communication

Emma: hates modern dating; men's expectations are crazy. Discussion of men who don't communicate what they want. Andrew: men have incentive to lie about not wanting commitment. Gabby's baby-daddy story: drug dealer, arranged threesome, she introduced him to a woman at 7-Eleven, they got together, he got that woman pregnant; later told Gabby he was gay after planned pregnancy. Baby daddy currently in prison.

Pizza party intermission and roast session

Brian orders Costco pizza, drops TTS to $19.99. Chat roasts all panelists. Andrew praised as legend. Alex drops her pizza slice (concussion-related clumsiness). Donations from recurring donors (back_to_the_roots donates $1000). Roast session: chat roasts chairs 1-6, Brian (pizza betraying burrito), Maddie the employee, Q, Turkish.

Hookup culture body count disclosures

Brian goes around table asking body counts. Alex: 9. Gabby: 11 (disclosed only after being played motivational audio multiple times). Others decline or not asked. Q discusses preferences for virgin/low-count women despite high personal body count.

Dating apps profile reviews

Brian reviews Savannah's and Emma's Tinder profiles on screen. Savannah: 5'7", unvaccinated, short-term open to long-term, no prompts. Emma: listed 'activism (animals)'; is vegetarian for moral reasons; blonde/pink/purple/black hair history; wants to run an animal sanctuary. Debate over Emma's activism and vegetarianism.

Do we need men — panel round

Brian asks each guest: do we need men? Most say yes with caveats. Andrew provocatively claims men don't need women except for procreation. Chat and panel push back. Discussion of whether female-only societies could survive.

Body positivity vs. accountability

Gabby discusses her 50lb weight loss: was never happy when overweight; doesn't believe body positivity is the answer. Andrew and Q discuss male body shaming culture vs. female affirmation culture. Andrew references Pearl Davis's commentary on women not policing each other.

Stream close and roast wrap-up

Final roast session (TTS at $20). Brian thanks chat, plugs Twitch/Discord. Outro.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasyeah so debate university.com uh we have a couple dating apps from the girls here so why don't we uh why don't we do those do some reacts all right this is

Brian AtlasSavannah uh let's uh go through it looks better in per okay

Brian Atlasnext cool next uh let's see looking for short-term open to long-term dating she's

Brian Atlasunvaccinated oh communication style is better in person love language time together uh drink socially on the weekends sometimes works out

Brian Atlasnext 5 foot 7 uh next are there prompts oh that's it nope

Brian Atlasdo you have prompts or what is that promps oh I don't know okay um so chat do you swipe yes or

Brian Atlasno on Savannah that that app is so bad like the pictures and everything they weren't not I mean tinder's just terrible in general wait do you do only fans no I do not cuz your friend she's

Brian Atlasnot my friend anymore oh you guys aren't friends okay all female friendships brutal as [ __ ] mhm and then let's look at Emma's Tinder

Brian Atlasprofile uh lucky I make tons of playlists but lucky it's like all house and I love it mhm okay next hot okay I I didn't know what to

Emmaput there okay all right next you you went blonde how long did

Brian Atlasthat last uh I went blonde and then pink and then purple and then black okay and then you said I want someone who wants to travel with me my dream job is to run

Brian Atlasan animal animal sanctuary did you see that HBO thing with the the monkey what was that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] the the monkey one with the the chimp chimpanzees no oh okay uh interest travel secondhand apparel

Brian Atlasactivism okay next oh is that that's it yeah okay you're into activism what kind of AC

Emmaactivism animals oh animalss yeah are you vegan I I was for years oh why did you switch

Emmaback I I don't know I think I was just kind of tired of it I'll it h okay what was one of our reacts are

Alexyou eating you're eating meat no meat you just had Pizza no I didn't are you like pescarian or or

Emmavegetarian um vegetarian say so you don't eat meat correct wait you don't eat meat because of a moral nemma yeah

Emmawhat is the moral dilemma just killing of animals to food is bad I also just don't like the taste of meat and never have okay so you don't

Andrew Wilsonthink that killing animals to eat them is bad I think it's bad yeah how

Emmacome because it's murdering a living being for food that we don't necessarily need

Andrew Wilsonto eat so if an animal kills a human should they go to jail no I don't think so you ever heard

Andrew Wilsonof something called bear jail bear jail yeah bear jail so no what happens is if an animal like a bear for instance was a nuisance and was killing all the fish

Andrew Wilsonbecause you I mean you have to admit that animals eat animals all the time right yes shouldn't we segregate them off from other animals so that these monsters aren't killing all the other animals no I think it's natural for

Andrew Wilsonanimals to eat other animals I just don't aren't we animals wait I'm sorry aren't we animals yeah sure then I thought you just said it was natural for animals to eat other animals yeah uh in

Q (The Q Pill)my opinion I don't think humans should eat meat but that's a whole other subject well well we just talked about the Primitive societies what are what are they supposed to eat cuz they can't

Q (The Q Pill)just they can't just Thrive off of plants yeah so I think in like Western culture today outside

Andrew Wilsonof that I would say that it it's also horrible for the environment as well but I great for the environment great for the environment to thin out herbivores especially and

Andrew Wilsonthat's why we need carnivores around thinning them out all the time it's fantastic for the environment even vegans don't make that argument even they know that there's an ecosystem and inside of that ecosystem you have to have carnivores thinning out the

Andrew Wilsonherbivores otherwise herbivores will eat up all the plants and Etc that's why that's what an ecosystem is a contain system which is designed so that life flourishes and in order for it to do

Andrew Wilsonthat some life has to be thinned out sure right yeah yeah so this would be the same thing like if you were to get rid of hunting and things like this uh you would have a big problem with

Andrew Wilsonherbivores uh as we are the apex predator we've gotten rid of a lot of predators right and so because of that we need to thin out herbivores so that

Brian Atlaswe have that ecosystem right sure yeah yeah yeah okay uh so moving on to another topic here uh do you think do you guys think that men are insecure or

Brian Atlasexcuse me not men do you think women are insec wait hold on no I had it right the first time hold on let me play this [Music]

Brian Atlasthing oh boy okay do you guys think that men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um no I don't think so okay I don't think so I don't think

Kendraso I don't know honestly that sounds like a yes why does I mean I understand why you guys think it matters

Kendrabut think or no I mean everybody's entitled to their opinion wait well hold up why why do we think it matters can we can we ask her she why do we think it

Kendramattered I don't know going back to the whole car mileage thing like why would that even be an argument if it didn't matter oh so you're just using that I'm

Q (The Q Pill)using that analogy now okay so there's there's no deeper understanding of why it might matter to us you you don't have an idea I think it

Kendramatters just as much to like us as it does to you guys yeah no no but uh here going around the table will get to everybody no I don't think so I think it

Alexcould but I do not think it necessarily is overall okay it could but all right no for insecurity okay all right going around the table

Brian Atlasalso where do we start what's your body count starting with Alex it's nine nine

Gabbyyeah okay me uh zero four not answering that oh I'm a

Brian Atlasmom I don't want to do that oh but do it just do it it's going to play until you it's we keep this up Dre be

Alexdreams yesterday you said tomorrow 45 seconds make dream come true just no we got to let this play

Q (The Q Pill)until some people dream success while you're going to wake up and work hard at it nothing is impossible damn you should take or

Productionanyone else would quit and you're not going to stop there no no what are you waiting for do it I think just I don't think

AlexI've ever seen the full one do it yes you can just do

Gabbyit 11 oh I I said it this is the third time this the third time yeah that's why I was like are we just yeah I said 11 wait earlier yeah like three times this

Brian Atlasis the fourth time to heard it but the girls definitely oh it's 11's going okay we can play it we can play all

Maty Fullernight we can play it it's fine do it just do it yes you can just do

Andrew Wilsonit um play it again I'll give you I will give you a $2 bill if you answer holy [ __ ] you know how much that's worth it's worth a lot is

Brian Atlasthat hang on is that one of your original $2 bills yeah and it's a series it's a series a one too oh dude yeah you you're going to want to take the two $2

Brian Atlasbill I got one I don't know if I believe him you answer the question no all right you would have been a

Brian Atlasbajillion dollars richer okay what about you I actually don't know range

Brian Atlasno more than 20 actually less than 20 much less than 20 whoa okay hold on that's a hell of a hold on so 50 no no no less than

Brian Atlas20 okay so you can make your own conclusions Emma no comment oh Emma Emma Emma bro you got to answer this come on

EmmaEmma how many $2 bills do you have I I collect them so you do I I actually

Emmado so you want to give us a range sure under 10 less than 10 correct less than

Brian Atlasfive uh no comment got you [ __ ] I gave you a range where's my $2 bill oh I didn't give what did I say I range everybody else gets a

Brian Atlasrange no he's just trying to bribe me it's okay multiply it by three and that's the real number oh okay

Brian Atlasum lesson 10 yeah so nine no no no no no no no comment uh

Brian Atlasokay all right that's cool that's cool um zero mhm me too I'm also I'm also a

Brian AtlasVirgin uh let's see here notes oh we never okay Kendra you about you huh what about you I answered before I don't

Andrew Wilsonanswer this yeah can you answer please no so so you going to play the Sho hang on no I think that's fair as soon as all of you

Brian Atlasanswer okay I don't care to know that bad okay fair enough Kendra you said why do men suck at communication and not want to commit to women anymore

Brian AtlasI I actually don't think men suck at communication I think women suck at communication so who should be the first to say like what they want out of it

Brian Atlaswhat do you mean like somebody has to speak up women you're saying men have a problem is well these are two different these are two different statements why

Brian Atlasdo men suck a communication and not want to commit to so those are two separate conversations so let's start with the communication one so okay uh in what way do men suck at communication what I meant by that statement was that they

Brian Atlasdon't say when they want to commit in the beginning well if they do or not this is like women who say he he never texted me

Brian Atlasit's like did y'all did you text him no oh so then like nobody did anything then right but so why is the burden on men to initiate the commitment conversation I

Gabbydon't know it's not it's not you're putting it on them I never said that you just said men have a problem with communicating if you have a problem good at it him exactly so you can reach out and tell him like hey

Kendramaybe I'm not good at communication either I never said I was good at it that's fair I didn't say you wor girl so girl yeah I never said that I was like good at communication I'm just saying

Q (The Q Pill)what do you do if two people don't communicate to each other then nothing happens well yeah I mean it's kind of the disadvantage of being on The Dating Market if you're not a good mate mhm

Kendrayeah closed mouths don't get fed even if you do communicate though sometimes it doesn't make you like even a good mate for them still so honestly I don't think it's a step

Q (The Q Pill)further than not communicating especially if you want something and you're not voicing it okay well if he's not communicating then he's not a good mate for me Nei so and we're just not compatible that's what I just said so I

Q (The Q Pill)mean y'all both end up single mhm well I wouldn't say single I mean we're just not compatible together as two so then we need to go to somebody else so but in but you say it's a problem so if it's a problem or men aren't good at it then

Q (The Q Pill)that means you're not getting the outcome that you want so then you have to look at well what should you do in order to take a step towards that desired outcome maybe go for more expressive men who are more confident in

Kendrasaying what they feel so you want the man to say something to you first regardless I do personally because in my like experiences it's just

Q (The Q Pill)never it's never worked so if it's never worked and you always wait for the guy then why don't you try saying something and see if that gives you a different outome have I have

Kendraand I have asked you know what do you want they'll say literally you know like you're my girl and then go act a different way still like even if I do ask they're still not being honest in their communication so that's why I kind

Alexof just stopped asking and I just wait for them to make the move yeah okay um how do you vet the people that you're dating like do you ask like yeah like um

Alexhow do you like um you know approach with dating at the beginning to see if you're compatible uh to even like move on further you know to actually start

Alexthe whole dating process like if you actually want the same things to begin with see cuz like that I feel like that's something that should be addressed the very first time that you mute each other yeah but what do you do if two people

Kendradon't address it to each other you can't communicate so then you're just not compatible yeah then how do you go about I don't okay so you just like don't address it at all but you expect

Kendrasomebody else to I mean everybody has their own communication patterns yeah exactly so like that's what I'm asking like how do you I prefer the man to take

Alexinitiation first that's my preference so whoever approaches you you just don't question them you don't question what they want um where their views lies I

Kendrathink it's like to me it's kind of obvious like what they want why why is I mean if they're asking you to come over at 2 a.m. it's obvious what they want if they ask to take you on a date at 5:00

Alexp.m. it's obvious what they want why okay um um well I'm sorry I'm misunderstanding like I me we have different relationship things like don't do open relationships and like well I

Alexdon't have an open relationship by the way but it's like just in general um what I'm misunderstanding is specifically like yeah they want you to

Alexcome over at 2: a.m. so it's like why do you assume what they want it's like and if they take you out for a date why do you assume what they want

Alexinstead of just asking hey like what um what are you looking for in a relationship whether or not they ask you that or you ask them first why does that

Alexmatter like it should be a two-way communication Street regardless and that's I guess is what question why I have to be the first one to do it I'm not saying you should be I'm saying even

Alexif they ask you first like you should ask them back so that you are aware of what they want so it's like that's my question like how do you vet the man

Brian Atlashold on prior wait you said you you said you shouldn't have to be the first one to do it I didn't say I shouldn't I said why should I oh oh sure okay that's so

Brian Atlasyou said why should I be the first one to do it I thought didn't she not say I shouldn't have to be the first one to do it did I well what I meant was why should I have to if I prefer like the

Brian Atlasman to take the like first initiative whoa whoa whoa wait wait the first words that you expect out of a man no like literally he he meets you you absolutely

Brian Atlasnot that's what I'm oh so what does that have to do you use the word first initiative like you know after we're hanging out getting to know each other yeah that's not first initiative first initiative has already first second

Brian Atlasthird hundredth initiative has already the burden's already been placed on the man for what do you approach men or do they approach you they approach me have you ever gone up to a man no oh okay

Brian Atlasfirst initiative if a man approaches you is he asking for the number or are you asking for the number he is okay and then who's texting who first that dep that depends okay he's probably texting

Brian Atlasyou first right I mean I text first too it goes both ways when you say you text first like when you first meet so you ask for or you're already like dating the dude and it's it's a you've [ __ ]

Brian Atlasfor three months and you you'll send a first text three months into the relationship what do you me um okay who pays for the date 50/50 all the time for you I mean I'll offer but if he wants to pay for it then

Kendrahe'll pay for it how many First Dates have you been on I don't know not a lot I don't really date like

Brian Atlasthat well okay hold on you don't really date like that what do you mean like I don't really go on dates so you just go over to the guy's house no then how the

Kendra[ __ ] do you meet dudes I don't because they don't approach you no I mean yeah what I don't have an issue with it though so I pick who I pick and if they

Kendraapproach me they approach me that's just the way it goes so you only pick amongst those who approach you because that's basically I yeah I'll see a cute guy and I'll be like oh yeah he's really cute

Andrew Wilsonthat's really what is this dating debacle it's a total dating Baloo like you never ever approach a guy ever no they don't they don't really um so what

Brian Atlasabout going for the first kiss do you do that or does the guy I think we both do it at the same time that's [ __ ] but okay um probably me probably you yeah press X to

Brian Atlasdoubt um huh and then when it comes to moving things forward sexually is that some like the first time first kiss first time moving things forward physically are you making that move or

Brian Atlasis the guy what move let me take your top off let me take your clothes off let second base Third Base huh I don't really do that so you're a virgin no I don't do that like

Brian Atlason the first dat oh you don't you don't make the move is what you're saying I thought I thought you were saying I don't do okay um well it seems to me that the man has taken first second third fourth fifth

Brian Atlasdozen Etc initiative so what's this talk about men not taking

Brian Atlasinitiative like the one thing y'all women have to do really when it comes to the initiative is like trying to lock down the relationship reciprocate they

Brian Atlasdon't even reciprocate bro it's like we we get you we carry you to like we carry you right to the finish line and then

Brian Atlasall you have to do oh you want to be my boyfriend that's it bro that's all that's the hard work for you you want to be my boyfriend I'm going to try that

Brian Atlasand then the guy has to along the way he has to face all the steps of rejection along the way you reject the first kiss you reject the number you reject the initial approach men have to literally

Brian Atlascarry women in relation if you don't reject any of it and you accept it doesn't that mean that I like you doesn't that mean I want to be your girlfri it's the risk of rejection at every single point where a man has to take initiative there's the risk of

Brian Atlasrejection but it's like if I like the person and you know I want a relationship not only even if we know you [ __ ] love us and we know we're going to get uh success when we take

Brian Atlaswhatever step of initiative it is the effort still falls on us to do it y'all are passive as [ __ ] I am yeah

Brian Atlasyou okay thank you from the from I know I am yeah y'all are passive as [ __ ] and then y'all complain oh but this one extra thing of oh but he won't ask for the

Alexcommitment bro that's on y'all why don't y'all do one little thing yeah so then like they suck at communication because

Kendrayou're you're not communicating whatsoever well no no not at all I didn't say like like this is just throwing me in loops and

KendraLoops it's all around same [ __ ] like it's all around like wait what it's all it all goes literally back around in the same Circle what does this whole

Brian Atlasconversation okay well I'm not sure what totally what that means but essentially it's just like y'all have this expectation that men take all the initiative and it's like we literally

Brian Atlashave to handhold you to the Finish Line we have to carry you V it's video game term carry to essentially take a inexperienced person and basically if you're playing a video game bring them

Brian Atlasto the W that's what dating y'all is like because you don't take really look not all women some women will be a bit more um you a dominant woman or you want a

Brian Atlassubmissive woman no not well you can still be submissive and feminine but also like take a uh contribute

Brian Atlasattempt to contribute equally in the way that you can in a feminine way towards building and starting a relationship look it is what it is uh

Brian AtlasI'm just simply I'm just pointing out what is okay so here here's how it is okay we have to do all the work we have to take all the steps we have to face all the rejection and we

Brian Atlascarry you we handhold you to the finish line and then you don't ask to be my girlfriend after that after after all that you don't ask wait so just to be clear I just said that we do all the

Kendrawork and you're like well you could do a little more that's is that your argument is that your argument do you run the lap around the track just to not pass the Finish

Brian AtlasLine well see this is the this is how why men are really dissatisfied I think when it comes to dating is do you guys want to put in any effort to actually contributing to the start and building

Brian Atlasof a relationship or do you want us to just handhold you all the way [ __ ] there I think it's a little more than that well I kind of think it's worse in a way because the Assumption here is

Andrew Wilsonlike you get to the finish line there's a prize right that's why you get to the finish line there's some kind of like reward here right that's that's the idea and I think uh kind of my problem

Andrew Wilsonhere my rebuttal would be I just don't think that most women are worth whatever the reward of passing the Finish Line are I just don't think that's worth passing the Finish line for the reward

Andrew Wilsonso when the idea is like well I'm the prize and you should run around the track to get through the Finish Line because I'm the reward I think that uh more men would do better by rejecting

Alexthat concept and saying well you know I'm not so sure that uh that that's particularly rewarding um actually just to go off of that if you're always passive and you

Alexdon't ever contribute anything like why would anyone offer you the actual commitment to begin with if you're literally just in the background just

Alexaccepting whatever they're doing and not actually putting in any of the effort why would they want to be committed to you in the first place yeah that's a good promise probably why I'm saying I just had I actually just had this conversation with the girl I date

Q (The Q Pill)because our Dynamic was kind of like that in in the start and I said she was like well you could have said something but we're dating now because she said something and and only because she said something because I don't know you don't

Q (The Q Pill)only thing I the only thing I do know is that I'm physically attracted to you and you have to give me some incentive to want to commit to you yes we can link up we can have sex but we ain't having no

Q (The Q Pill)conversations deeper than God knows what we not getting to know each other any further and when I do try to talk to you or whatever you know it's just kind of bland it's it's like we're not building an actual connection I have to I have to

Q (The Q Pill)be incentivized to want to commit to you I'm like what am I getting because we already sleeping together I already got what I want so if you want commitment then show me what there is to commit to what am I getting otherwise I'm just going to keep doing me and then when you

Q (The Q Pill)decide oh you know I actually like him and you become overwhelmed with that feeling you better open your mouth before the next woman come along and do something like yo I'm doing this for you I'm doing this how was your day today I

Q (The Q Pill)miss you I want to talk to you I haven't talked to you x amount of hours this that and the third I'm seeing that she's actually showing me that she likes me you can smash me but you can smash anybody and a lot of modern women do just smash anybody that's that's also

Q (The Q Pill)why I just don't jump to commit to a woman cuz I know this woman done already slept with other people I know she done been in situationships I know she didn't did XYZ so why would I jump to commit to that if she not showing me what I'm getting in the commitment she got to

Q (The Q Pill)show me that's how that's how I ended up dating a girl at date now cuz she opened her [ __ ] mouth I only want you I got a girl a pair of

Brian Atlasballs what uh I guess so I just I guess kind of some of the the way I kind of think about it I I hear a lot of women complain like oh at the beginning at the start he put in all this effort but now

Brian Atlasthat we're in a relationship or we've been dating for a while like that effort stopped but it's like I almost view that as well we put in all the effort at the

Brian Atlasbeginning and we have effort fatigue we have initiative fatigue and now we're going to Coast we got you we got you we did all the work to get you you didn't

Kendrado really much and now we'll just coast and we'll do what you do basically just kind of I've noticed though like when I do like do the initiative when I

Kendrahave done in the past that like they just don't reciprocate it so like I just thought you know maybe I'm just pushing people away so that's or they just didn't like

Brian Atlasyou could be that could be anyways uh how does one know I'll I'll finish up the rest of the notes here actually we got to do the bow video because I don't know if you guys call

Brian Atlasfrom the beginning uh we have uh Alex here painted me on can canas uh this little bow bow thing uh so

Brian Atlaslet's pull up the bow video this is uh this is a video of I took of my ex-girlfriend and uh just just to show you what I expect in a

Brian Atlasrelationship boom huge only took me two dates to to train her how to how to get to this point all right this is my this

Brian Atlasis my apartment I'm like yeah she laundry ready to go attentive see look the the scampering that's good got the

Brian Atlasbeer ready got the noodles ready got the she [ __ ] up on the tomatoes I don't the whole to just whole tomatoes what the [ __ ] but she's yeah that's good stirring the noodles what one more time

Andrew Wilsonlet's hit the plate from the beginning check the bow hold on Boom huge still uh I'm still pretty upset about this noodle mixing thing i' I've told you before

Andrew Wilsonthat this is distressing for me um so so when when I'm kicking back in front of the television and my wife brings me a meal I expect the noodles if if there are noodles and there rarely

Andrew Wilsonare to be pre I don't want to see her mixing anything or making anything I expect it to be premixed and already ready so basically when it's in front of me plus I need to [ __ ] right I need to be like ah it's too hot why the [ __ ] why

Andrew Wilsonwould you give it to me when it's this hot right I need I need that like [ __ ] Factor also but isn't it supposed to be pre ran yeah she [ __ ] up [ __ ] up she

Brian Atlas[ __ ] up and that's why she's your ex that's I dumped her actually after I took that video it's like how could you [ __ ] up this video I'm

Brian Atlastaking uh yeah I dumped her though um it was good while it lasted uh but you know it's okay you can have her you can have

Brian Atlasher forever now and you know look I but she did good she she tried her best but you know I am uh look I'm spoiled I got spoiled she did she did well okay she

Andrew Wilsondid okay she did all right she did all right look I'm easy to please I'm easy look I'm very low maintenance it's just a bow and a soda and some noodles man how [ __ ] hard could it be yeah simple

Brian Atlassimple now Andrew you said all that [ __ ] in that video though that's the Baseline you said well hold on wait until I think this I'll paraphrase a little bit wait

Brian Atlasuntil you get into an argument with a woman ah [ __ ] I'll just have you say go ahead Andrew I [ __ ] it up I don't know what you're alluding to here well you were

Brian Atlaslike it was about being submissive and it was something like yeah that shit's easy but wait until you get into an argument with your

Andrew Wilsongirl and wait [ __ ] How does it go do you know what I'm talking about Andrew I don't know exactly what you're referencing or maybe if you're referencing submission then kind of my

Andrew Wilsonidea behind submission is that modern women are against it uh they they kind of will pretend that they're for submitting but they actually think that they're supposed to be leaders and men are sub they're they're going to submit

Andrew Wilsonto you in other words if you're worthy of submission whatever the [ __ ] that means and generally it's going to just be a difference back to them so it's the this kind of leader followship dynamic

Andrew Wilsonor leader leader follower Dynamic with that works this way you can lead and I will follow as long as you do everything that I say oh and you can lead me there's this great thing from the office

Brian Atlasthat we've played before um me hold on I'm going to try to find it and we can react to it uh let's

Andrew Wilsonsee oh yeah yeah I'm I'm sorry so my chat reminded me this is in regards to a fight so wait until there's a fight you're both going at it right and uh you

Andrew Wilsonknow she's pissed at you the next day the whole day she's pissed at you will she still bow at the door and make the noodles that is the that's the key in

Andrew Wilsonright the key in isn't whether or not oh everything is great and it's fantastic and he you he bought me the [ __ ] nice dress that I love and you know everything is perfect but when it's not

Andrew Wilsonperfect and when it's not perfect when it's not great do you still have dinner on the table served up that way that's the tell H yep mhm I agree I got a video on this

ProductionI got away let's go to the video

Productiontab all right good I got away with everything under the last boss and it wasn't good for me at all so I want

Productionguidance I want leadership but don't just like boss me around you know like Lead Me lead me when I'm in the mood to

Productionbe led

Andrew Wilsonthat that's women bro well maybe I can ask the the panel this um it's a it's kind of a paradox so

Andrew Wilsonfirst and foremost I would just kind of concede that probably most women if they agree with the idea of submission only agree with it from a religious purview so I I'll just kind of grant that that's

Andrew Wilsontrue but the idea here is just this if you are to obey and you are the servant of

Andrew Wilsonthe relationship and the man is the leader if you question how he serves as the leader how are you not the

Andrew Wilsonleader that's the question it kind of becomes this Paradox so so starting starting with uh Savannah right because I haven't picked on you nearly enough tonight and I've been

Andrew Wilsonreally trying to out my game on picking on you a little bit here so um would you for the right man submit to the man submit like how like do anything for him

Andrew Wilsonyeah yeah of course I would 100% anything yeah anything what if you had disagreements with how he led you and led your

Andrew Wilsonfamily like what do you mean like what did he do to my family well he doesn't do anything you just have disagree like for instance let's give you an easy one you're a

Andrew Wilsonstay-at-home mom there's a school which is very close but he wants the kids to go to a school which is much further away this does not from your purview track in your relationship you don't

Andrew Wilsonwant to drive the additional hour to drop the kids off at the school he insists that you must and he doesn't want to hear it your objections they're noted but he doesn't give a [ __ ] you

Andrew Wilsonneed to take those kids because he says so is it a special school like is it a Christian school or what not a special school you think that the other school is better in fact you think the one closer is even better he

Andrew Wilsondisagrees I feel like there would probably be an argument there yeah there's an argument but he says I'm not going to argue I just don't care what you think on this particular topic I want those kids to go to that school if

Andrew WilsonI'm a stay-at-home mom if I don't really have too much much going on then I wouldn't mind driving the like further difference he's dismissing he's dismissing the entirety of your opinion he doesn't care that it

Andrew Wilsondoesn't it doesn't work you you think ah this just doesn't fit with my schedule perfectly but if they were just at this closer school it would and he gives you no justification he doesn't give you a

Andrew Wilsonreason he says I'm not going to give you a reason and I don't care about your objections that's the school they're going to are they going I want to be with somebody like that I wouldn't right that's fair okay so

Andrew Wilsonthen moving moving to Gabby so he's my husband yeah I'm going to obey okay moving to Maddie I wouldn't

TTS/Chat readerbe married to something right g MD Jim donated $100 than to form a vegan murder is the premeditated killing of one human being

TTS/Chat readerby another not an animal knowing this I assume that you are outraged by doing so to a child in the womb uh by the way TTS has been lowered to 100 do you want to

Andrew Wilsonrespond to that no by the way Jim time supporter of the whatever podcast thank you for the Super Chat man yeah thank you Jim appreciate it uh I see a lot of his supers come

Brian Atlasthrough yeah he's uh he's been supporting a lot recently so I I got to hit him with the He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer a Pioneer Pioneer um so Maddie wouldn't be married

Andrew Wilsonto a guy like that the Kendra no can you like say the question again so the we'll start with the bass

Andrew Wilsonwould you submit to a man sure okay so um the idea here is that your your husband says to you you're the stay-at-home mom right

Andrew Wilsonthere's a school which is close you think that the school which is close to you is better and it's more convenient for you to take the kids to that school the man says okay but I want you to take these kids to the school which is an

Andrew Wilsonhour away which is highly inconvenient for you in your schedule and he says I'm going to give you zero justification you just need to do it I

Kendramean I would hope my only reason wouldn't be just convenience for the school I would hope that I know where I would be sending my kids now you think it's better you think it's better than the other one for sure like educationally sure you think

Andrew Wilsoneducationally and everything else you think it's better I mean I would just ask him to give me a reason yeah I know but he says no I'm not going to give you a single justification I don't need to you need to obey I'm going to say you do

Andrew Wilsonneed to give me a reason because it's my child too okay right so so then moving over to Emma I would not obey it' be a very you would not obey okay hang on

Emmafair enough it would be wait let's just it would be what a very serious conversation about the relationship H okay okay Alex

Turkishso I wouldn't blindly obey like that right okay and then moving over to Turkish um can I be honest I think I'm more of the dominant type but I think

Andrew Wilsonfor the right person I'm willing to come to an agreement a communication like we discuss I'm very like communication I

Andrew Wilsonknow yeah I know he just in this case his foot's down he doesn't want the kids to go to that one he wants to go to the other one and he's going to give you no justification and that's the end of the argument that's the end of it they're

Turkishgoing to that school and that's the end of it low key I think if I'm actually really in love I just listen to him like when I love someone I'm like if that's

Andrew Wilsongoing to make you happy I guess yeah okay for the right man I'm glad she added that you see why in modernity when women say submission that they'd be

Andrew Wilsonwilling to submit I actually don't [ __ ] believe them I don't I really I don't actually believe them I don't can I explain I think that it's submission

Andrew Wilsonwith qualifiers it's submission with if if you're doing the things I think you should be doing then I'll submit I don't really believe that modern women will

Andrew Wilsonsubmit to Modern Men even if they have all the faith in the world in him that they if they if they kind of put the ultimatum up where the woman says wait I just don't like this and they say okay I

Andrew Wilsondon't care and that's the end of it they they seem to be become very very very upset by that and that is not submission from my perspective well it takes away

Alextheir agency completely and I mean it kind of belittles them as a person so fair but if he's your husband I imagine that you thought it through

Alexbefore you married him so you know like hey if he's going to make the calls he I trust him yeah exactly but it's like you still have to agree on kind of the

Andrew Wilsonreason um why do you have so this is my whole thing right it's like why if this person is the leader like imagine for a second that the general the general goes

Andrew Wilsonwe're going to war and here's what's going to happen his second in command is like can you tell me why we should do this and he's like cuz I said we're doing it that's [ __ ] why we're doing

Andrew Wilsonit wouldn't that guy get like put up for Disobedience and he would you know may perhaps even be flogged for Disobedience right but it's like for some reason

TTS/Chat readerAtlas all resources 33,43 donated $100 married my husband when I was 19 he

TTS/Chat reader25 both military vets a unit needs a leader my husband is my leader if we disagree yes I serve him dinner now 20

Andrew Wilsonyears later still married Atlas than and God bless you Atlas sources right because there's very few of you who are around anymore but kind of back to this

Andrew Wilsonlike so what so what if you disagree so what if he says look on this particular issue I just don't give a [ __ ] what you think I just don't care and you need to just kind of obey what I'm saying that's

Alexnot that's not going to work for you right Alex um yeah for me I mean it wouldn't work because if we are actually going to um I would like to know the

Andrew Wilsonreasoning behind it that's really it you know what's funny I don't even care from The secularist Atheist perspective I don't even care that they say that's not going to work and we need to be an endless dialogue and you need to comfort

Andrew Wilsonme and you need to make you know all of you need to justify every decision I don't even care right I think that that's fine but I don't really understand it from the Christian world view that's the thing I've always

Andrew WilsonTangled with with Christian women is why they think that's okay or why Muslim women would think it's okay or why you know what I mean like their doctrines

Andrew Wilsonare very clear that it's not okay that's I guess that's where I always come at it from yeah so not my argument but you ladies take it

Brian Atlasaway no okay I mean even Andrew even if you don't take it that far even if as a man you're more yeah but okay I'm already mad at you though man because

Andrew Wilsonwhen you say that far right it kind of implies that this this is going overboard and I don't think it's going overbo I think that this is

Andrew Wilsonless um kind of like a less of an Ask than I think this is it's less of an ask and about if you say I submit to you and I love you and you say okay great then

Andrew Wilsonobey me on this thing because it's important to me and don't ask me a bunch of questions about it I think it's less of an ask to for to ask that and she

Alexgoes okay to be fair though I do um agree with that specific aspect in the CHMS when both people have very similar

Andrew Wilsonviews so it's like if they in general have you know very similar views like I'm sure you and wife sure I think um I think as as much as me and my wife um

Andrew Wilsonit's very interesting people will say me and my wife almost seem like we're one person right they can't figure out where my views end and hers begin we actually disagree on quite a bit we actually disagree on quite a bit and I think that

Andrew Wilsonmany people end up marrying people who disagree with them on quite a bit uh when it comes to various aspects of things which they consider to be practical or pragmatic or how they want

Andrew Wilsonit done or you know this type of thing and it's like who's the threshold breaker here and always from kind of the secular woman's perspective it's well we're just going to argue incessantly

Andrew Wilsonuntil we come to an agreement even though we all know in reality that's not possible that there's some disagreements that men and women will have in a relationship they're not going to find the the you know they're not going

Andrew Wilsonto find that Common Ground they're going to disagree to the point where that is not found and so it's like somebody has to be deferred to here

Brian Atlasy the point I was uh going to make is and I don't I mean when I said that far I think what I'm saying is if you were to

Brian Atlaspull most modern men in modern women whether it's through indoctrination brainwashing uh sort of the sort of the

Brian Atlasthe what's the term for it the uh the cultural Zeitgeist I think they would say they would say that it's too far I don't think you think it's too far

Brian AtlasAndrew um that's not even necessarily the point I'm trying to make what I am trying to say though even if uh we don't take it that far and it's

Brian Atlassort of more of a just a sort of General leadership and if the man is willing to receive input and have prolonged

Brian Atlasconversations with his girlfriend or wife uh about perhaps a uh decision when it comes to the household or the children uh even if he's willing to have

Brian Atlasthese prolonged back and forth negotiations and conversations there is this sort of trend that I've noticed that in general it seems like women really like chale leadership they're

Brian Atlasattracted to it they want a man who's a leader but they are just not prepared to be followers and that just you cannot have a leader without somebody who's

Brian Atlaswilling to be a follower both of you can't be leaders only one person can be a leader nothing gets done in a democracy nothing gets done by committee

Brian Atlasso I I just see these women it's like almost on a biological evolutionary level they're attracted to men who are dominant masculine leaders but like in

Brian Atlasthe programming they don't they fight against fight against it and don't want to be followers so they I want a leader

Brian Atlasbut I don't want to follow I'm attracted to this but I'm also going to question and be quarrelsome and not let you lead but I'm attracted to it but I'm still

Q (The Q Pill)not going to let you lead but I'm attracted to it does that make sense and and Andrew there go there goes actual nature versus nurture argument because the but because the natural aspect is

Q (The Q Pill)they are attracted to it but you have feminism we have a culture like in the west that tells women that they don't have to listen to men that they don't have to do certain things in relationships and then it's reinforced

Andrew Wilsonall throughout the media social media well let me argue with you a little bit here Q yeah and uh and and ask you if it's a nature versus nurture argument how do you know that the nature isn't just to be rebellious because men are

Q (The Q Pill)attra men are naturally attracted to agreeable women and agreeable women are typically the ones who have the better relationships are they yeah yeah it doesn't seem that it doesn't seem like

Q (The Q Pill)that in modernity seem like in modernity most women are quarrelsome and men are still endlessly pursuing them yeah in the West in in the west because it's been infiltrated by by feminist values and principles yeah but isn't feminism

Andrew Wilsonjust another extension of evolution so didn't we evolve to be feminists just like all social structures are part of evolution as part of the selective

Andrew Wilsonprocess right possibly possibly but then but it isn't I always found this to be a massive hole in the argument from The evolutionary uh purview if the argument

Andrew Wilsonis but feminism has indoctrinated women into being quarrelsome then you're actually saying that men in the west have evolved into to follow feminism and so have women because that would be the

Q (The Q Pill)natural order of selection right yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't be opposed to that but it's it's bigger than the West so when I say that in general I mean there's still agreeable women in other cultures there's still women who subscribe to listening to their men and

Q (The Q Pill)being submissive in other cultures so of course we have we have what I would call an anomaly here in the west and evolution feminism's winning huh even in other cultures feminism is winning you

Andrew Wilsonthink so yeah name a culture it's not winning in the cultures that is not prevalent in where such as the Middle East such such as the Middle East no it's it it's winning all over the the

Andrew WilsonMiddle East it's winning in Iran where transgenderism is allowed it's winning in Afghanistan where it's been liberated by the West it's winning everywhere in the number one complaint I hear from

Andrew WilsonMuslims is that feminism has not stopped at the west but is now going through the Middle East like crazy and they're doing everything they can to kind of push back

Q (The Q Pill)against it but they're still having to face off with it so the question becomes like is this the natural evolutionary order well when you say well it's it's not necessarily The neol evolutionary

Q (The Q Pill)order it's more of a fact that we just like agreeable women and agreeable women the more agreeable a woman is the more likely the relationship is to work so it's not it's not a it's it's not a

Q (The Q Pill)black and white thing it's a gray area so it's a gradation in terms of what relationships May function better than other relationships based on the level of agreeableness in the women that's in

Q (The Q Pill)those relationships and when you when you speaking about it you making it more like a black and white thing and evolution isn't necessarily about what's best it's just about what's most

Q (The Q Pill)adaptable so if the if the West is indeed uh feminist if feminism is adapted to it yeah yeah that's what I was that's what I'm getting at I'm saying but if they've adapted to it then

Q (The Q Pill)that would be part of their evolutionary cycle then but then that would just mean that we would ultimately end up just becoming a feminist Society we have become a feminist Society no no I'm

Q (The Q Pill)I'm no no I'm saying the argument you're making is more so from a moralistic perspective and I'm saying Evolution well I don't I I'm not a an I don't believe in evolution I don't even think

Andrew Wilsonit's a thing right it's nonsensical to me because of natural selection being the mechanism but that's not only argue within the evolutionary that's not the only that's not the only mechanism of evolution there's there's more than that

Andrew Wilsonit's not natural selection that would be D strong without natural selection Evolution doesn't work yes it does because of genetic drift and genetic M would work that's all natural selection genetics natural it's not no it's not

Q (The Q Pill)natural how is it it's unnatural selection no it's not because random mutations happen just randomly within populations that would be natural that's not selection that is selection no no

Q (The Q Pill)it's only selection it's selecting for the mutated Gene it's selecting for the mutated Gene but you have to m in order to pass it on yeah but if you're M and passing on the mutated genes then that's

Q (The Q Pill)natural therefore it's natural selection no MM how what do you mean no how could it not be I'm I just told you if it's not being selected for sexually then it's not natural selection yeah but if

Andrew Wilsonpeople with these mutated genes are having sex and the mutated genes are continuing then that would be natural selection you ain't got the answers man

Q (The Q Pill)you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answer s but so but jeans but things happen jeans get eliminated jeans are not selected for so it's just kind of a random thing

Andrew Wilsonyeah but that's all natural selection again me one mechanis one selection is the key component to Evolution the gradual change of an entirety of a

Andrew Wilsonspecies over time that is evolution combine with you can have now you can have Micro Evolution as well I understand that as well but the gradual progression of an entire species over

Q (The Q Pill)time is the mechanism for this has to be natural say can't be anything else what else could it be no you're just choosing to Clump them together they're separate mechanisms genetic D the other mechanism

Q (The Q Pill)genetic drift is its own mechanism genetic mutations are their own mechanism natural selection are their own mechanisms how do those mutations spread in response to the environment

Andrew Wilsonokay so in response to the environment those mutations spread and then when you have sexual intercourse with somebody that mutation but continues yes but you added

Q (The Q Pill)the sexual you added the sexual selection every but now it's been selected for that's the point that's natural SEL now it's been selected for yeah if you say that but that does

Andrew Wilsonthat's not always the case that's you I'm saying it's always the case but if it's not the case that's also natural selection so if they don't have sex if there's no sex in the gene dies that has

Q (The Q Pill)been selected out if they do have sex and the gene is there then that has been selected in right no that's not the only way I keep telling you that you keep saying the same thing and I'm telling

Q (The Q Pill)you that's not the only way that's not the only way it works it doesn't have to be selected sure that's the only way it can work no it's not otherwise how does the gene continue if it's not selected for you

Q (The Q Pill)way because as I said genetic mutations and genetic drifts they're not always selected for but they become a part of evolution just because they're

Q (The Q Pill)mechanisms that happen randomly by chance natural selection is its own mechanism there if it was the same thing as those they wouldn't be considered different mechanisms it would be called natural selection it wouldn't be

Andrew Wilsoncalled understand this argument and maybe you can help me bridge the gap here let us assume that there's a mutation which occurs inside of a species which is very small right this

Andrew Wilsonis a random mutation which happens right now if this mutation if nobody with the mutation breeds you agree with me that this Gene is selected out correct or

Andrew Wilsonthis mutation is selected now out right possibly possi possibly okay well I mean I don't understand how could it be selected in if if the genes which cause

Q (The Q Pill)the mutation do not pass genetically to the Next Generation how because genes are also affected in utero by the environment so you can have you can have you can a woman can be pregnant or

Q (The Q Pill)animal can be pregnant and a whole new Gene happens there's a gene modification within the in the DNA I agree due to so but but let's say that that mutation

Andrew Wilsonhappens and then there's no more reproduction past that what happens to that

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