HATERSEXUAL?! Dating A Prisoner? Ankle Monitor Dating? Q! Andrew Wilson! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #201

Date: 2024-10-02

Duration: 7h 14m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSavannah (Huntington Beach)>

GGabby (Santa Barbara)>

KKendra (DT201)>

TTurkish (DT201)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Q (The Q Pill)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Savannah(guest)

SPEAKER_04Emma(guest)

SPEAKER_05Gabby(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Maty Fuller(guest)

SPEAKER_09Turkish(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kendra(guest)

SPEAKER_14Andrew Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens Dating Talk #201. Guests introduced: Savannah (18, HB, dog sitter), Gabby (29, SB, dispensary+med spa), Maty Fuller (18, SD, poli sci/radiology CC + behavioral interventionist), Kendra (25, PA, TikTok+Marine Science grad), Emma (22, SB, CC+pet shop), Alex (26, SB, artist), Turkish (24, LA/Australian, Twitch streamer). Co-hosts: Q and Andrew Wilson.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”

QuoteSavannah (18) reveals her boyfriend went to jail for Grand Theft Auto and assault 3 months into their 10-month relationship. She never visited him in jail; ended it after ~14 months total.

“he was in jail uh for for what uh Grand Theft Auto and assault”

QuoteMaty Fuller discloses she cheated on her last boyfriend — a kiss with someone who intellectually stimulated her. A mutual friend told the boyfriend; he ended things. Boyfriend was a football player who couldn't hold intellectual conversations.

“I messed up big time yeah I messed up normally don't hear that kind of honesty um how many people did you cheat on him with one”

QuoteEmma reveals she went to a stranger's apartment at 10pm, thought he was on drugs and might kill her, yet still had sex with him — contradicting her stated preference for the bear over a random man.

“she went over to a guy's house at 10pm you just met him and you slept with him within an hour”

Quote'Hater sexual / heterosexual' TTS misread: chat donor types 'hatersexual' meaning 'heterosexual' — Brian and Andrew riff on it, Brian immediately decides to change the video title to include it.

“hater sexual wait I'm going to change the title of the of the video to include hater sexual”

QuoteQ discloses last 3 serious girlfriends had a combined body count of 3; his last 2 girlfriends were virgins. His own high body count came from women pursuing him (was a Shade Room 'zaddy' with 5000+ DMs). He prefers innocent/wholesome women.

“the last three women that I dated had a combined body count of three my last two girlfriends were virgins”

QuoteAndrew Wilson admits he would save his family over the world if given the choice, despite acknowledging it is the 'immoral' answer. Cites male tribal loyalty instinct.

“I think I would save my family a respect yo crazy Ace thank for the gifted 10 subs and by the way I also think that's the wrong answer that that's the immoral answer”

QuoteGabby's body count of 11 finally disclosed after Brian plays motivational 'do it' audio repeatedly. She had previously declined to answer multiple times.

“11 oh I I said it this is the third time this the third time”

QuoteSelf-ratings round: Savannah=6, Emma=4.5, Brian=6.5, Alex=9 (highest), Maty=5, Kendra=5, Q=~6.3, Turkish=5, Andrew=4 (lowest, 'for sure or less').

“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead um six we should have asked this before we got into the rating stuff but I'm like a strong four and a half”

QuoteBaby daddy story: Gabby approached a woman at 7-Eleven to set up a threesome (at baby daddy's suggestion); woman became baby daddy's new drug connect; they later had a baby together ~4 months after Gabby's breakup. Gabby says she was happy for them when she saw the baby.

“I walked into a 7-Eleven I complimented her and then she ended up taking us to her friend's house that was down the street”

QuoteGabby reveals baby daddy told her he was gay after she told him she was pregnant (planned pregnancy). He had shown bisexual tendencies throughout their relationship.

“he actually told me he was gay after I told him I was pregnant after planned pregnancy”

QuoteAlex defends dating a man ~20 years her senior. Rates him 10 (objectively ~9 per panel). Says she was attracted from first sight; he has dated celebrities.

“he is a tan I was attracted to him from the very first you know time I saw him and I mean he's dated a lot of celebrities in the past”

Topics Discussed

Stream intro and guest introductions

Brian Atlas opens show, announcements, guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Guests: Savannah (18, HB, dog sitter), Gabby (29, SB, dispensary), Maty Fuller (18, SD, CC student/behavioral interventionist), Kendra (25, PA, TikTok + Marine Science grad), Emma (22, SB, CC student/pet shop), Alex (26, SB, artist), Turkish (24, LA from Australia, Twitch streamer). Co-hosts: Q (31, behavioral scientist) and Andrew Wilson (political analyst).

E-girls, anklet monitor dating, prisoner dating (title topics)

Topics from show title (HATERSEXUAL, Dating a Prisoner, Ankle Monitor Dating, E-GIRLS) stem from: (1) Savannah's story about dating a boy who went to jail; (2) the 'hater sexual / heterosexual' TTS misread that became a running joke and the episode title; (3) e-girl discussion referenced in body count/appearance contexts; (4) ankle monitor references likely from viewer TTS/chat questions.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking each guest their current relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, who ended it and why. Highlights: Savannah's boyfriend went to jail for GTA+assault 3 months in; Gabby has a 2yo son from prior relationship; Maty cheated (a kiss) on last boyfriend; Kendra broken up with over a missed phone call in church; Emma single 4 years, picky about men making moves too fast; Alex dating older man (~20 yrs senior); Turkish values emotional connection over looks.

Bear vs. man debate

Brian poses the viral bear vs. man in the woods question. Most women initially choose bear. Extended debate about male violence statistics, random men's intentions, and the disconnect between choosing a bear but sleeping with strangers. Q cites that 80% of assaults are by known persons. Andrew points out Emma went to a stranger's apartment despite 'bear' fears. Percentages of men who would assault: Kendra says 50%, Maty says 75%, others lower.

Hookup culture and waiting to have sex

Discussion of women who have had casual sex but then make new partners wait. Brian's 'conundrum': women willing to sleep with casual partners quickly but withhold from men they see as long-term. Andrew introduces concept of 'faking virtue.' Q discusses neurophysiological basis of attraction. Reddit post read: woman who slept with FWB while making boyfriend wait — he broke up with her when she confessed.

Why do men avoid commitment — secular vs. religious marriage

Andrew asks the table: what is the incentive for a non-religious man to get married? Extended discussion of marriage as a bad deal for men, secularism, Q's explanation of lying about intentions. Andrew argues marriage is understood best through religious framework.

Car analogy and body count debate

Chat sends car analogy (0-mile vs 200K-mile car = virgin vs high body count woman). Alex objects to comparing women to inanimate objects. Andrew and Q defend the analogy as a useful articulation of male preference. Extended argument about vintage cars with zero miles. TTS from chat adding to debate. Brian summarizes: men prefer 'going vroom' — being first.

Looks ratings round and OKCupid data

Brian asks everyone to self-rate on 1-10 scale (can't pick 7). Ratings: Savannah=6, Emma=4.5, Brian=6.5, Alex=9, Maty=5, Kendra=5, Q=~6.3, Turkish=5, Andrew=4. Brian shows OKCupid chart: men rate women on a bell curve; women rate 80% of men below average. Discussion of women having inflated self-ratings relative to what men can realistically commit to.

Religion, Islam, and eschatology

TTS asks Andrew about his stance on Islam. Andrew explains as Orthodox Christian he argues with Muslims because denying Christ's divinity is fundamental offense. References Quran and Hosea (God asking to marry a prostitute). Brief discussion of Prophet Muhammad's age at marriage. Andrew avoids eschatology (end times) as his weakest theological area.

Toxic relationships and men's communication

Emma: hates modern dating; men's expectations are crazy. Discussion of men who don't communicate what they want. Andrew: men have incentive to lie about not wanting commitment. Gabby's baby-daddy story: drug dealer, arranged threesome, she introduced him to a woman at 7-Eleven, they got together, he got that woman pregnant; later told Gabby he was gay after planned pregnancy. Baby daddy currently in prison.

Pizza party intermission and roast session

Brian orders Costco pizza, drops TTS to $19.99. Chat roasts all panelists. Andrew praised as legend. Alex drops her pizza slice (concussion-related clumsiness). Donations from recurring donors (back_to_the_roots donates $1000). Roast session: chat roasts chairs 1-6, Brian (pizza betraying burrito), Maddie the employee, Q, Turkish.

Hookup culture body count disclosures

Brian goes around table asking body counts. Alex: 9. Gabby: 11 (disclosed only after being played motivational audio multiple times). Others decline or not asked. Q discusses preferences for virgin/low-count women despite high personal body count.

Dating apps profile reviews

Brian reviews Savannah's and Emma's Tinder profiles on screen. Savannah: 5'7", unvaccinated, short-term open to long-term, no prompts. Emma: listed 'activism (animals)'; is vegetarian for moral reasons; blonde/pink/purple/black hair history; wants to run an animal sanctuary. Debate over Emma's activism and vegetarianism.

Do we need men — panel round

Brian asks each guest: do we need men? Most say yes with caveats. Andrew provocatively claims men don't need women except for procreation. Chat and panel push back. Discussion of whether female-only societies could survive.

Body positivity vs. accountability

Gabby discusses her 50lb weight loss: was never happy when overweight; doesn't believe body positivity is the answer. Andrew and Q discuss male body shaming culture vs. female affirmation culture. Andrew references Pearl Davis's commentary on women not policing each other.

Stream close and roast wrap-up

Final roast session (TTS at $20). Brian thanks chat, plugs Twitch/Discord. Outro.

Transcript

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Q (The Q Pill)going to be oh that's what I want to do he doesn't know you most guys when they get comfortable with you is when they feel comfortable enough to make a move on you and it's because you could send them signals to where they interpreted as you're interested you're finally

Q (The Q Pill)along they get the confidence to actually do that most men don't have the confidence to even do that most men are scared to talk to women they don't even approach women they they they won't Express sexual

Q (The Q Pill)interest a random man in the woods he see you hell he might be scared of you honestly and knowing modern women he like this [ __ ] might report me for rap I'm sorry great she might falsely report

Q (The Q Pill)it I ain't touching her okay so that's something to consider I mean when y'all answering these questions you know remember that like Andrew said most of the time when this occurs it's by somebody you know yeah I

Brian Atlasdidn't know that statistic so thank you for educating me on that I didn't know absolutely thank you Andrew did you uh have I think you're asking Emma here something because you said I really want to do the

Andrew Wilsonbear versus man thing did you want to get into more of that or yeah I just I think I I just find it ironic that that you have kind of this concern

Andrew Wilsonthat if a ROM man was just kind of pulled out of the entire demographic of the United States put in a forest with you that you would take a bear which of course pound for pound you do realize

Andrew Wilsoncan te you to pieces very very quickly right yes I do know that okay but you have indeed gone and met with complete

Andrew Wilsonstrangers who you even had terrible feelings about right and thought you were going to end up on the news and just kind of Justified it with well that's a hell of a way to go

Emmaright it doesn't that seem a little contrary to your position that you would trust a strange bear over a strange man Carson can you close the doors uh I I

Emmafeel like Bears don't have the intentions that men do and I think that men have sometimes especially if it's a stranger

Alexhorrible intentions okay so I have a question like you said that you know you ignored all the red flags because he was gorgeous what what if it wasn't

Alexabsolutely like 10 10 your perfect type Man versus a bear um probably probably him then yeah what

Q (The Q Pill)kind of bear are we talking about black bear or a grizzly bear let's go Grizzly because y'all try to take the easy way out with bears that are less aggressive so let's go Grizzly opportunistic Predator omnivore and has been known to

Q (The Q Pill)attack people and kill people when the opportunity is given let's go

Andrew WilsonGrizzly I'll still try to cuddle with it you'll still try to cuddle with the grizzly 5et at the shoulder I think I can earn his trust 1,200 lb I mean I don't I still don't understand this

Andrew Wilsoneither though because black bears are extremely dangerous they're in the top five right they're in the top five categories and it's like I this idea that oh it's a black bear it's fine

Andrew Wilsonbecause black bears like the cute cuddly kind it's like they're they're still really really dangerous especially because they become acclimated to human beings cuz they feed them all the time mhm right so they get really comfortable

Andrew Wilsonso it's like uh they're still really dangerous so just pointed I mean yeah Grizzlies are are more dangerous I I grant that but black bears are still

Andrew Wilsonreally really dangerous I I don't I I would still just go with random

Brian Atlasbear still bear everybody still bear I have a couple clarifying questions maybe these will help uh so I wonder if Austin do you know that video of like

Brian Atlasthe bear Crossing on the road is I'm not sure uh let me it might be in the downloads folder but I don't know

Brian Atlasexactly where it is if you can try to find it um so uh let's see okay you're on the top floor of a burning building for an

Brian Atlasappointment there's two elevators you got to take the elevator to get down elevator one has bear in it elevator two has a man in it burning building you got to get down to the ground floor you got

Brian Atlasto take the elevator which elevator do you pick the one with the bear or the one with the man in it and you're the only one there

Alexand the man there's no other people the man man man in that case I would choose a man okay huh all right um hm

Q (The Q Pill)interesting all right well the Bears would start freaking out like completely it's a burning building and and Brian is a burning building the man kind of get trying to get out too yeah so if you if you I mean not before there would be

Q (The Q Pill)that time huh woman coming in the elevator Fire Woman definitely it's my last opportunity I might not make it out the whole point of this was that not every

Turkishman has that intention back they don't the way I was think everyone wants to get off you wanted to talk about Emma you wanted to talk about hookup culture and

Brian Atlastoxic relationships uh what about hookup culture did you have thoughts on it's all bad it's bad yes when's the last time you hooked up with

Emmasomebody probably the last guy who I thought was going to kill me wait

Emmaum the Asian guy yeah you said that was when 2019 or wait 21 or 2021 so like 3 years

Emmaago yes wait you have you have not hooked up with somebody since then actually that's false you're a

Emma[ __ ] liar you're a [ __ ] liar what what's false uh I actually have hooked up with a couple people um my ex that

Emmawas with for a couple years the wait uh the two-year guy yeah two-ish it was off

Emmaand on for another like two years I'd say is this after the no furniture murderer guy um it's kind of that was

Brian Atlaskind of in between that H okay uh wait so when's the last time that you hooked up with

Emmasomebody like last week no not last week probably like a year or two nobody in 2024 so think about 2024 nothing correct but like didn't you say

Alexyou were like in a few situationships this year like were they not you didn't and they like were only like a week or two long yeah is do you not consider

Brian Atlasthat hooking up no no you were just talking to him um yeah dating yeah you didn't sleep with him no okay there was no no carnal knowledge no I'm a nice girl for a second just to see how it

Emmafeels wait what do you mean you're a nice girl um like I want a man to take me out on a DAT or a couple dates or a while oh boy right what unless you

Andrew Wilsonunless you meet him on Tinder and show up to his house and right think he's a serial killer wait I'm just just curious

Brian Atlasand hold on I don't even know how to approach this um so you're you said you're a nice girl correct and you want a guy to take you on a couple dates yeah and so what does that mean like you want

Emmato want him to take you out to dinner or what what does that mean no just like date for a I feel like it's also about

Emmalike not just the timing but I don't know how how to explain it but there's like a right time and a wrong time

Emmaulation no um so what do you mean like there's a certain time in a relationship where I think like sex starts to happen

Brian Atlasspecifically for me like it has to be a while before anything like gets anywhere so just to be clear you you have though been like you didn't hook up with them

Brian Atlasbut you were dating them for a period of time yeah um what I'm assuming they wanted to have sex with you um probably

Brian Atlasthey didn't try no they didn't try no maybe that's H yeah okay because this no furniture guy he

Brian Atlastried with within an hour but I guess some guys move slower um so what is that point in a relationship a month in yeah I'd say a month two months three

Brian Atlasmonths yeah okay and you said you wanted a guy to like go on some dates first yeah okay let's say you met up with the guy though on the first date and he you

Brian Atlasliked him or whatever uh and he tried would you have sex with him or would you be like no no no I like you but like let's wait a bit is that something you

Emmado or it it depends it depends on like what I'm feeling but probably not probably not mhm okay so you you have have there been guys who have tried to

Brian Atlashook up with you and you're like not that I know of no I don't think so and you meet these guys on Tinder not always oh how were you said you were recently in

Brian Atlasthe situationship was it a month ago you said yeah uh yeah about you guys didn't hook up no and it lasted a week a couple weeks couple weeks yeah he was trying to

Emmahook up no how was this was he coming over did y'all go out did y'all have yeah we we

Emmawalked on the beach a couple times we got like lunch did you kiss him did I yeah of course and he never tried to escalate to

Emmaanything more I like introverted men so maybe that's why oh h a little shy maybe maybe they're like scared to make a move or something yeah

Q (The Q Pill)that's definitely what it is you don't like men who take charge you don't like assertive men I mean sometimes but depending on how attractive he is no no

Emmano I I feel like there's a specific like type of person that I like and it tends to be like the introverted men who don't make moves

Brian Atlasthat often so here's a question though let's say the next guy that you meet and you uh I don't know how I don't know exactly all the circumstances of how it goes

Brian Atlasdown but first time hanging out with him and you guys been hanging out for three hours you're at his place you guys start making out whatever and then he wants to take things further

Emmauh would you take things further or would you be like no no no let's wait probably not I I don't know I think it also depends on specific scenario but

Brian Atlasusually I would say no wait usually you would say no yeah to that yeah or I mean so just curious what was the I mean

Brian Atlasthere was the the 62 gorgeous Asian guy uh did you have this position

Q (The Q Pill)when you were talking with him no okay so back then you were like just kind of yeah totally I went with the flow and then what changed the other guys wasn't as

Emmaattractive as the 62 Asian guy no no no that's not the case at all uh I don't know I think what I look for in men is

Emmajust not someone who like makes a move the first time we hang out um yeah I I've also I think internally matured a

Q (The Q Pill)lot to make that change why you don't want to feel like you're being used for sex or they're just after sure yeah okay

Andrew WilsonI didn't know there was a debate going on right now it's like um oh yeah you talking about there's the a lot of flack for coming on

Q (The Q Pill)tonight I probably would have pulled out too Brian uh but uh I guess like we this always comes up on the show

Brian Atlasand it's always kind of I still haven't been able to perfectly articulate kind of why it rubs me the wrong way but Q maybe you can weigh in it's like so you

Brian Atlastold us this story uh where you went over to a guy's house at 10: p.m. you just met him and you slept with him

Brian Atlaswithin an hour correct and as a guy look it's your call as a woman if you could have slept with 100 men within 30

Brian Atlasminutes of meeting them first first time and then the 100th one man number 101 you're going to make him wait until marriage you can do that like that's

Brian Atlasyour choice as a woman but if I was the guy in that perspective if I was Guy potentially guy number 10 101 to come around I would not accept that in in so

Brian Atlasfar as I just wouldn't it would would be such a like almost a slap in the face I'd just be like I'm not waiting for you goodbye I don't want to date you and so I guess I'm trying to like wrap my head

Q (The Q Pill)around like that whole thing well I mean there's a couple factors that play um the first thing is closed mouths don't get fed so if a guy is with a girl and

Q (The Q Pill)he doesn't make a move or he's not assertive then she's going to she's going to take the path of uh least resistance if he ain't asking and if he ain't trying she ain't going to give it up she ain't just going to throw herself at her see yeah I'm not talking like in her situation where she's dating these

Brian Atlasintroverts that are scared to make a move like for example I've encountered this before where it's like you know I tend to vet the girls a little bit so I'll ask them about their past relationship history their dating history and they'll typically reveal

Brian Atlasyeah I've had some one night stands flings here and there they'll say even as you know they'll even tell me how recently and then uh they'll be like well I want to get to know you better

Brian Atlasand I want to wait uh three dates blah blah blah and all this [ __ ] and I'm like I'm just I lose interest I'm like okay well look I am interested in long-term relationship but I'm also not going to

Brian Atlaswait 3 four five dates I'm not going to wait one two three months for sex because I not a virgin I'm not waiting you're not the Virgin either we're both adults like yeah women have these little

Q (The Q Pill)episodes where they don't want to be they don't want to be seen as [ __ ] as well even if they are um it makes no sense to us as men but there are guys there are moments where women decide like I'm not going to do this again or

Q (The Q Pill)they didn't like the fact that they got hooked they hooked up with a guy and the guy didn't stay around so they're like I'm not going to give up sex too quickly because we also got to remember sometimes the guys that women hook up with they probably do want to pursue something further with and the guy just

Q (The Q Pill)doesn't want to so it's it's it's different scenarios it's it's different um um factors at play and as a guy of course you have the right to say no I would in that same situation I would do what you do like I'd be like no I'm not

Q (The Q Pill)waiting and other guys didn't have to wait but I'm typically the guy who gets it when I want it as soon as I want it so I can't relate to the men who wait in line or who get denied sex so from that

Q (The Q Pill)from your perspective I do understand but there are times where women are just like I want to change I want to be different I want somebody to court me I want somebody to romance me and they don't think about the fact that they've been [ __ ] in the past they don't they

Brian Atlasdon't consider that and they don't care but the but I mean the thing with that though is that I don't actually even believe that that's that's even genuine

Brian Atlasbecause if an attractive enough guy comes along and she knows even if he's uh direct about his casual intentions with her if he's attractive enough

TTS/Chat readershe'll still and well make the rule she'll try L paladins donated $200 and2 it's not that confusing be women don't need to trust a man in order to

TTS/Chat readersleep with a man stop swallowing your blue pill they are telling you that because because you give off Billy Vibes don't be a chump uh not necessarily not necessarily

Q (The Q Pill)I mean but but let me say to your point what they'll do because I've experienced this is they'll try to change your mind that's what they try to do they'll give it up and they'll go along with the flow

Q (The Q Pill)thinking that you'll change your mind if you tell a woman I'm not looking for anything serious I just want something casual they'll try to change your mind I've experienced that and guys who also

Brian Atlashave dealt with that will tell you that they'll try to change your mind yeah sure I guess my point of contention is more so even as a guy even if you're

Brian Atlasdesirous of a serious relationship with this girl uh she's going to withhold but there's no actual guiding values or morals there it's just this

Q (The Q Pill)arbitrary thing to get compliance from you basically so well I have a much more uh biological psychological perspective I think it's just the power of

Q (The Q Pill)Attraction I think it's just like with her case that's why the dude that she found super super attractive could have a mattress on the floor and he could she could still think that he was on drugs and would kill her but she still slept

Q (The Q Pill)with him because she said he was gorgeous that is just a neurophysiological response in the female brain if she finds you attractive enough then she will Overlook everything else about you that could be hazardous a

Brian Atlasred flag and she'll still sleep with you that's the that's the way attract action works biology I could see that situation going both ways though like she could still try to do the leverage move of like I'm going to wait wait wait still

Brian Atlaseven in that situation with the really attractive guy or she breaks her rules for the really attractive guy and [ __ ] him anyways I I could see it going both ways but again my my whole issue here is I certainly acknowledge that it's more

Brian Atlasso from the perspective of hey this woman she's been promiscuous in the past gave it up easy now you're guy you're the next guy who comes along and then she decides she's you're the guy who

Brian Atlasshe's gonna make weight and in my my view I think that makes if the guy does wait makes him a sucker absolutely makes him a total sucker and he shouldn't he

Brian Atlasshouldn't he should just go find a girl who has either gen it's weird though because these girls could still have genuine desire for the guy but still be okay I'm going to play this game as

Brian Atlasleverage to get commitment or because I think that this is the right thing to do or the right move to do or this is what I read in [ __ ] Cosmo or I saw on some Tik Tok you got to make the guy wait 1 2

Q (The Q Pill)3 months the self healing Journey try to find themselves to trying to change it up yeah all of those things play a factor in their attitudes towards how they proceed with next I told you they

Brian Atlasjust be trying to change but they'll do this even if the guy even if the guy like for at least for me for example so I don't have any qualms with sleeping the girl on the first second or third

Brian Atlasdate right no qualms there and if if I see long long-term potential it's not going to matter if we hook up quickly right like I don't know if you've had that experience probably your

Brian Atlasgirlfriends absolutely your long-term relationships was it let's wait two months and then get into a relationship then have sex or was it have sex quick and we continue hooking up now we're in a relationship it's right there is's

Brian Atlasthat one that's my Dynamic that's always been all my relationships so when these girls though come and they're like well I want to get to know you better I'm like you just lost a relationship I'm no longer interested I tell them we can get to know each other

Q (The Q Pill)as we getting to know each other as we [ __ ] it so because I have no plans to [ __ ] you and then leave you and go Brian doesn't that create a catch 22 for you what do you mean well because you're

Andrew Wilsonlike well wait a second if you've had a one night stand that somewhat disqualifies you because you're not willing to have the one night stand with me right well I don't want a one night stand though no I

Andrew Wilsonunderstand you don't want it but what what triggers you about it or what gets you tilted about it or whatever whatever kind of language you want is that they'd be willing to do that with somebody but not

Brian Atlasyou like that's what the flag itself is right yeah I yeah I suppose that's a component of it yeah um what's I guess what's the

Andrew Wilsoncatch 22 though well because um then this means that even if this woman was trying to achieve virtue or changed her mind or had made a mistake or had had

Andrew Wilsonregrets about doing this thing um that by telling you that she wanted to pursue virtue wouldn't you be potentially removing virtuous women from your pool um by kind of rejecting them outright

Brian Atlasbecause this is not Behavior they would do with you but that is behavior that you would prefer a woman did do with men h ah interesting good point Andrew

Brian Atlasit's a good it's a fair point although I mean you've actually used this argument before Andrew is the great hoe

Andrew Wilsonreformation and so is it actually virtue are they actually virtuous have they actually yeah I think that that gets to the heart of the contention so like to from the argument from your side so

Andrew Wilsonevery side has has an argument right so the argument from your side I I I think that this is a compelling one against you but I think the compelling argument for you is that well if a woman is only

Andrew Wilsondoing this for the purposes of impressing men then she's f faking virtue mhm that would be faking virtue right so that's that would be the big contention I think from uh from your end

Andrew Wilsonof the argument and I don't have an argument against that by the way I think that it kind of railroads right there and I don't know where to go with it because you can never really tell yeah how how would you know exactly exactly right so how would you ever know the

Andrew Wilsondifference of if they're doing it because they're faking virtue or they're doing it because they genuinely wanted to be virtuous how could you actually so I don't actually have to this I call

Q (The Q Pill)the Brian conundrum right or the Brian Paradox or whatever you want to say right um I don't have an answer for this okay so let me add a caveat let me add a caveat Brian let's take your example let's say she does have a history of

Q (The Q Pill)being promiscuous but she's been celibate for say the past two years and she and then you you come across her and she said well I've been celibate the past two years yeah I've had one night stands in the past but for the past two years I've been celibate and I would

Brian Atlaslike to keep it that way and I would like us to get to know each other would that pivot your perspective I think that's uh there's obviously Nuance to these sorts of

Brian Atlasconversations uh so I think yes it would uh so long as you know was genuine I'm I'm assuming it is uh yeah I think I it

Brian Atlaswould depend how long she wanted to wait then though okay uh you want to wait 3 months still not interested oh life until marriage you want right you want to oh no well that's

Andrew Wilsonnot yeah three dates I'll give a three dates okay all right three I think you have said in the past that if a woman was pursuing uh her religious values and seem to be adamant towards those uh that

Andrew Wilsonyou would you would take that into consideration versus a secularist right mhm that makes I mean that makes sense to me maybe that's a sign then that you're not faking

Brian Atlasvirtue yeah yeah um I think kind of the issue here is in these sorts of situations is one uh the recency with

Brian Atlaswhich they were engaged in a casual hookup so I just would not it would be very difficult for me to take it seriously for example if a woman like two weeks prior had a one night

Brian Atlasstand or not even well a lot of these even even secular atheist women who are not religious at all will do this whole they're not even in it's not even

Brian Atlasin pursuit of any sort of religious for any religious reasons they'll just oh I want to like wait to have sex I I don't want to do that blah blah blah hey

Brian Atlasthat's fine whatever so I don't think it's it's solely religious women who will do this it's also secular atheist women um I guess so my contention is one

Brian Atlasthe recency so if they did it two weeks ago but now oh you want to wait 3 months but the two weeks ago you [ __ ] a guy within at 30 minutes of meeting him I'm like okay lady and then uh the other thing some women will do and then Austin

Brian Atlasyou'll pull up that first one here in a sec is they'll they'll be making a guy wait and

Brian Atlasalso [ __ ] a dude while making the guy who they have their eye on for long-term relationship they'll make him wait anybody here done that [ __ ] anybody

Brian Atlascome on be honest you guys all done that [ __ ] one at a time okay just to be clear so no girl here has been hooking up with the guy casually and then you also while

Brian Atlashooking up with that guy casually went on a date with a guy who you potentially saw uh for who you potentially saw as a long-term partner really none of y'all

Brian Atlasbeen hooking up with a guy and it was casual it was kind of whatever not monogamous not non-exclusive none of you here while [ __ ] him went on a date

Alexwith the guy really I would do the opposite actually yeah yeah there you go see there you go you did it I would do the opposite I would do the opposite I would I would actually what's the opposite so I would have the the

Alexrelationships with someone with whom I actually saw the longterm um you sex potential but I would not have sex with someone whom I'm casually seeing at all then wait why

Alexwould you even bother casually seeing them open relationship um it's not really open relationship again um we are kind

TTS/Chat readerof oh my God back underscore to underscore the underscore Roots Dona $1,000 all right champag go great panel don't be shy to speak up girls don't be

Brian Atlasshy to speak up girls yeah it's been a bit of a boys boys con for the past 10 minutes I agree with everything you guys said though okay um yo back to the roots

Kendrathank you uh appreciate it man uh do we have cups Maddie I'll have you pour let's go I feel like in order for those two scenarios to happen the what you need to have a guy actually taking you

Kendraon a date all right everyone get C you serious uh wait hold on we need to keep the cooking here oh you don't want to yeah I'm going to pour oh yeah bring the C back oh yeah

Brian Atlasmy Alex can have one em can have one wait before we pour do you want some champagne oh no thank you do you want

Brian Atlaschampagne do you want champagne and then Turkish no me Q yeah so that's four cups okay what about andw

Andrew WilsonAndrew get your VOD not 2 it's coming it's you have to be 21 oh Maddie and Savannah can't have any oh that's unlucky no you don't worry do you want

Brian Atlassome champagne yes please okay wait so five five yes five you can't have

Brian Atlasnone I'm all right uh back to the roots thank you thank you sir you're very you you are hold on let me play that he's a

Brian Atlasbrave and a decent man he's a Pioneer by the way guys go subscribe to his channel um go bra all right I'll let Maddie pour this sorry for the interruption here

Brian Atlasguys just had to get that that pot uh Q or Q you want to just pour for us yeah I got you why don't you uh so oh let's do the

Brian Atlasreacts really quick um I'm you here just if you guys can be quiet can I have you read read

Savannahthis all of it yeah start with the title up there okay um r2x chromosome you can yeah the skip that part okay I'm I'm I'm

Savannahunsure if I should tell my boy from this information I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple of months he's kind respectful and considerate I really think he could be

Savannahthe one but something is eating at me I wanted to build slowly with this man so we didn't become intimate until after going exclusive but between the first

Savannahdate and that point I did see an old F friends with benefit oh friends with benefit a couple of times back then I didn't think anything of it as I was was

Savannahan exclusive but underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend and feel almost like I've cheated on him have I done something wrong do I need to tell him will he end things with me update

Savannahthere was mixed reactions here but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend he said sorry I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that then he blocked me good for him before

Brian Atlaswe do uh the cheers really quick so your reaction to that story uh uh okay so look recap here she was dating a guy they were waiting to

Brian Atlashave sex until they were exclusive from the first date to when they became exclusive she was withholding sex but during that time she was hooking up with having sex with a Friends with Benefits

Brian Atlasa different guy during the entire time he she really liked him she wanted to be boyfriend girlfriend long term she asks Reddit if she should tell him because I guess it was eating away at her she

Brian Atlastells him he's like whoo What the [ __ ] and breaks up with her uh one valid you think valid reason to break up with her and then two do you think that's kind of Shifty

Brian Atlasto be like well I'm going to withhold sex from you while I'm pursuing a long-term relationship with you all the while [ __ ] this guy who's not exclusive with

Gabbyme I think it's good that she left him or he wait he yeah he left he left her I think that's good okay I'm really happy that she was honest with him I don't think she really cared about him she

Maty Fullerjust wanted to string him along mhm one she shouldn't have done it two I'm glad she told him three I'm glad he left her all

Alexright I think it's valid valid okay valid valid yeah it's absolutely valid I mean there's it's like why would you sleep with somebody while you're

Alexactually interested in an exclusive relationship like I don't know it just does not make sense to uh we'll follow up on that

Brian Atlasconversation here in just a sec but we have to do a cheers to back to the roots uh here's to back to the roots Salo Sal Salo

Brian Atlasoh drinking from the B okay all right this time I did last time uh we have we have a couple chats I just want to read too really quick so uh

SavannahI'll have you read them okay you want me to read yeah if you can um thank you Chad camo sweater girl number four talks fighting a lot you you Jujitsu LOL also

SavannahBrian for the relationship status question at opening anyone um ever said sex cter Harum uh thank you chadl

Brian AtlasLord for the message um I think somebody's has said they've been in a sex cult but no herum so thank you Chad Lord appreciate it and then we

Savannahhave two more we have this one oh two cars that you really like they are the same kind of car same price 100K first car has zero miles never been used

Savannahsecond car is used and abused 200k miles and many men have done what car do you pick hold on why would they be the same the same kind of car same price 100 I

Brian Atlasthink should did I read that wrong I think one was 100 the other was 200 here can you read it one more time just for it's all good two cars that you really like oh they are the same kind of car

Savannahand same price 100K first car has zero miles never been used second car is used and abused 200k miles and many men have

Brian Atlasdrove what car do you pick okay so do uh car one zero miles car two 200,000 miles

Alexwhich do you pick uh car one car one car one car one one so I would too because it's kind of weird it's kind of weird

Alexthat it's at zero miles okay specifically with a carwise because um there are some cars that you kind of have to drive for a prolonged period of

Alextime if it's got 20 it's got 25 miles on it 25 um let's do it at like 1,000 miles and then I'll take car

Alexone car one the Buton okay all right if we're talking about cars specifically okay all right I feel like they're trying to relate that to like I

SavannahI know they are then you know that's a different question can you read this one it's not that difficult to understand a woman's timeline of giving it up or giving it up is a spectrum some guy get

Savannahit earlier and some guys have to work for it that's their discrimination and based oh on Aesthetics uh clay thank you for the chat you had something on that queue or no no that's Val that no that's valid that's I agree with that statement

Q (The Q Pill)can I be honest I think it's all about communication I'm sorry to cut no no you go ahead no no go ahead please continue okay no I mean like of course I say dating is unfair so when I'm talking about women and I tell women that dating

Q (The Q Pill)is unfair to them I have to be reasonable and objective when it comes to men too some men have to work harder some men get it earlier it's just the reality of dating you just don't have it as well as some other men we're not

Q (The Q Pill)equal you know sexual competition is a thing men have to compete for women just like women have to compete for men especially on especially modern dating dating is a mess now so I mean it's just

Q (The Q Pill)it's the repugnant reality of dating what one guy can't get in a day another guy can it's just a reality of date what an easier way to say this and

Andrew Wilsonmaybe you can correct me if I'm wrong but this has always seemed like common sense to me q and maybe I can ask the panel this too but um doesn't it seem like if an ugly dude you should just

Andrew Wilsonpick an ugly woman and then your chances greatly greatly increase of um you know getting getting the you know sex and everything else it is that you want marriage Etc don't a lot of people just

Q (The Q Pill)kind of hit out of their league yeah that's the problem people be aiming for the [ __ ] stars yeah I mean if you're trying to date outside your league especially physically then you're not

Q (The Q Pill)going to farewell um but there is a such thing as assortive mating and we typically get into relationships with people that we're similar in attractiveness to uh religiosity political orientation and intelligence

Q (The Q Pill)so if you're somebody who's not as attractive but you're trying to date somebody more attractive than that person if it's a woman and you're not as attractive as the guy that you're dating he's going to [ __ ] you play you leave you because you're not attractive enough for him to commit to and if it's a woman

Q (The Q Pill)she's going to take advantage of you she's going to extract the resources that she can out of you as much as you're willing to give and you're not going to get it as soon as other guys get it if you get it at all if you even get it yeah but this brings up the great

Andrew Wilsonwhatever podcast conundrum the great whatever podcast question of our time how do ugly men know what types of ugly women they should go for if all the

Q (The Q Pill)women on whatever podcast always say that they're tens oh my God word we need to see the men that they've dated actually we need to see because

Q (The Q Pill)the men that they've actually dated will reveal their actual attractiveness level okay gotcha we have one more this is the WQ

Andrew Wilsonthe whatever question which is oh boy specifically how do ugly men know how to date within their league if every woman whoever comes on the whatever podcast is

AlexATT 10 this is the question of our time it is a conundrum well they shouldn't date a woman from the whatever

Andrew Wilsonpodcast didn't she say you were a 10 by the way no I said I was a nine oh I'm sorry if all of them on the whatever podcast are eights nines and

Andrew Wilsontens well I'm I'm dating a 10 so oh isn't he wait isn't he like 20 years older than you are he is and and

Alexdisabled um so he is not disabled but he is very attractive and he actually doesn't look old he actually looks a little bit younger than you to be fair

Alexum but I mean to me he is a tan I was attracted to him from the very first you know time I saw him and I mean he's he's

Alexdated a lot of celebrities in the past and it's just I don't know to me he's a 10 can I say a comment sorry I think yeah yeah to you hang on hang on quick

Andrew Wilsonand to others to hang on do you a 10 I think that's fair I think it's fair to say to me a person's a 10 to me a person's not a 10 that's totally fair right but objectively when you look at

Andrew Wilsonlike the universal style of standards that most people go for when you're kind of creating what is or is not goodlook right we all kind of pretend that that doesn't exist but it I mean it [ __ ]

Alexexists right we know it exists so where where would he fall on that scale he would fall around nine on the

Alexon the objective you know what is society you know considers to be absolutely Dro dead gorgeous

Turkishokay you add something um I just wanted to say I think um there's another way to look at it as well cuz I think you're going based off looks but I think for me anyways and my past relationships and anyone that I'm trying to pursue it's

Turkishall about like the connection like I think the whole stigma of trying to find someone in your like your basically your rating like the whole the leagues thing like 10 stay with tens and then five

Turkishstay with fives or whatever I don't really look at people like I don't look at someone to think oh my God like he's so attractive definitely like I need to get with him it's more like can I have a conversation with him can I actually sit down and like pick his brain will he

Turkishunderstand what I'm saying cuz if he if I ask him a question girl I'm sorry if I ask him a question that the sky blue and he's like a yeah a look I'm just like like make it make sense please he could

Turkishbe like youit to the world like Andrew said like the the norm of being the most attractive man in the world but if I genuinely cannot conversate in an emotional connection way then I'm like

Turkishunattracted yeah like to me that's like I genuinely cannot be with someone like if there is a man that you guys deem to be of not as attractive as another man but I can genuinely sit with him and

Turkishchat with him and have a genuine conversation that's like deeping meaningful and yeah like I can't put them to ranking or like I don't believe

Turkishthat I'm like I believe some men should and can I guess shoot for the stars but like I don't mean it in sense of it's just looks wise like their personality needs to come from a good home good heart like and I'm not a 10 I think I'm

Turkisha solid five like I don't think I'm that bad but I don't think I'm anywhere close to f as hell but for me anyways no I completely agree I think attractiveness your personality and and

Maty Fullerwhat you bring to the table in the terms of can we talk at the table that plays the biggest part because you can be a drop dead guy gorgeous guy or a girl most of the time if you're not stimulating mentally you're or if you

Maty Fullerhave a bad personality like like a a male 10 by societal standards if he's a 10 but he has nothing going on his head just not nice not very intelligent automatically

Maty Fullerit's like oh what a bore what a waste of physical potential when there's nothing going on in your brain yeah it like it immediately goes down to like a a a six five kind of level definitely can I be

Gabbyhonest about something from my personal view there's been guys who' have been like super nerdy cuz I'm also like that I like to connect with them intellectually and I just knew from the get-go like it's not going to go anywhere because there is no physical

Gabbyattraction from my standpoint so I totally agree it definitely subconsciously it's one of the things I look at like okay we're getting along but I'm also attracted to you oh know looks are definitely important I'm not saying looks are not important

Turkishdefinitely you got to be attracted to them but me personally I get more attracted to someone like for example my man could be a three out of 10 whatever but I feel like the more I'm with him I'm going to find him a 10 out of 10 I'm

Turkishgoing to find him like straight 10 out of 10 like I'm just going to have that bias thing the more that I'm with him he will automatically become more attractive to me anyways okay well let me ask you have you ever dated it what

Turkishyou think is a three out of 10 physically looks wise has any of your exes actually been a three out of 10 um I don't think that's nice but I think they're okay think they're okay they're

Turkishokay yeah they were really nice and like funny like see like see like my first ex was Egyptian and my second was Filipino like I definitely don't have a type I guess necessarily like if you just have like a good heart and you're funny

Turkishwhatever automatically you just become more attractive to me well how long did that take how like um was that a process um I guess but like the things that we were friends before we became

Brian Atlasanything wait wait if I can just jump in here uh so wasn't asking about your type whether they were Egyptian or Filipino is kind of irrelevant there are plenty of attractive Filipino and Egyptian men

Brian Atlasso he's asking if they were if those men were or any of the men you've dated were three out of tens in their looks I don't think so so they were more attractive than that possibly yeah but other people

Gabbywould say no though that's the thing and I don't know if it's a bias because they my friend or they're generally unattractive do you know so 10 would say that he's unattractive which no definitely not a 10 would not say that they are attractive but like no that

Gabbythey are unattractive a 10 would obviously say like oh yeah he's unattractive cuz she's a 10 so she's not going to look at that guy and be interested in at all yeah so you are not going to look at

Gabbya guy even as you know interesting as he is he's still like ugly and I'm and I'm glad you said that because that's what that's essentially what it boils down to you have to be physically attractive enough to get your foot in the door to

Q (The Q Pill)where she even wants to know what your mentality and your personality is and that's actually my I've actually done several research studies on physical attractiveness versus personality with women ranking you know personality

Q (The Q Pill)versus physical attractiveness and everything and all the studies reveal that when it comes down to it physical attractiveness is actually number one you have to be physically attractive enough for a for a woman to even want to

Q (The Q Pill)know if you're intelligent enough if you can hold a conversation if you're funny now of course women's attraction is contextual and it's more nuanced than male attraction because men are more visually simulated by a woman's physical

Q (The Q Pill)appearance but in in essence you still have to be physical attractive as a physically attractive as a guy for her to even take that interest in you and that's across domains in most cases it's

Q (The Q Pill)ubiquitous so yeah but I'm not saying that he's ugly I'm not iniquitous is a pretty big word q it just came out I started getting into my my college days it just came

Turkishout no like I definitely get what you're saying and I agree with you I'm not saying that they're ugly and I would never say that they're ugly like obviously attraction does play a big role in it but like for both

Turkishrelationships we both started as friends we're in the same group like it's for me attraction does take a big part in it I can look at someone and say oh they are attractive definitely I couldn't say or like I don't think this person would

Turkishsuit with me but like ultimately genuinely bottom of my heart like if I have someone who is genuinely kind emotion and everything like that I'm more drawn to that I'm more like like those both of them I was I

Turkishused to work with one of them we're working together for like 6 months before anything happened I'm not going to be like ew you're ugly I'm not going to socialize with you I'm a social butterfly I want everyone to be included you know I don't want anyone feeling

Q (The Q Pill)left out so automatically I will talk to anyone even if they're not a 10 out of 10 I would talk to every single person there is but also you also self-aware you called yourself a five do you think that plays a part in the fact that

Q (The Q Pill)you're more lenient with male looks because you don't think you're a 10 see if you thought you were a 10 you you'd be looking at men a little different you wouldn't you be like no he's too ugly for me because I think I'm this

Q (The Q Pill)attractive but the fact that you know that you're average gives you the leeway and and gives them room for error to not be as attractive as they would initially need to be if you thought you were more attractive than what you think you are I

Alexget that I get what you're saying but I'm saying for me personally anyways for me personally but I get what you're coming from so like why did you even bring an example that like if it's a

Alexthree if you've never dated someone who you assume is a three or you think is a three the three yeah because like that was the example that you brought up like if they're a three I'm saying if Society

Turkishviews them as a three like okay but like I can't put a rank on someone well okay that's that's fair I mean yeah like I I don't know why but like me personally I can't call someone like I can say you're

Turkishill if you make my friends upset I can be like ew babe like oh come on but like that's just coming from a friend I know it's weird but like that's just like that's like a friend like this what I mean I'm very like friendly and very

Turkishlike comforting like I would never want to say anything to rank anyone that's why I think I'm average like I would never want to come from a place to put a m to feel

Turkishlike cuz I think males are so like this ego thing because of this dominance because of the assertiveness because of the way they kind of have to be this is my opinion by the way this is not saying that everyone agrees with me but um I

Turkishguess putting a man in a position where he doesn't have to feel like he has to be a thousand times better than everyone else I don't I just want chill dude whatever comes from it comes from it like that's why I just accept everyone

Turkishfor how they are and that's just me maybe that's why I've been single for so long but like it's whatever I don't I'm not rush to meet anyone who's a 10 out of 10 I

Kendraguess I feel like 10 out of 10 usually have a little like Cockiness problems and little attitude problems too but can you SW just like when they know they're fine actually when they know they're fine as well ask this question since

Brian Atlaswe're kind of on the topic ask everyone to write their looks on the oh uh Rabe rui says bricken just say no wait what oh the no

Gabbyner that is is that here let's we'll try it again uh no no you're doing something when you say it and I'm watching you no no no no

Andrew Wilsonno no no yeah you have there we go open her mouth right no no no no got to open her mouth she's saying n n n still no

Turkishno it's pretty CL okay all right yes all right ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead um six we should have asked this before we got

Emmainto the rating stuff but I'm like a strong four and a half oh my God I guess

Brian Atlas6 and 1/2 six 6 and 1/2 nine five five C 6.3 I give myself a five

Andrew WilsonAndrew uh I'm a four for sure or less all right I think you're beautiful Andrew yo craze thank you for the gift of 10 Subs ITT I got the patronizing

Andrew Wilsonbeautiful and everything that's like that's like the head Pat where they're like no no no no no no come on no it's

Andrew Wilsonlike come on I think it yeah you just make it a little bit less patronizing for uh so you're the do you think you're

Alexthe most attractive girl here since you rated yourself the highest um I think you're very very gorgeous I would definitely rate you way higher thank you

Alexum and I'm not trying to compete just for my personal preference uh I would date someone who looks like me um just off the looks alone

Brian Atlasokay all right

Brian Atlasum uh actually Austin let's do this pull up the true Rape Me Guide for women and I'm just curious if this would

Brian Atlasadjust your ranking at all for you all right so God t 10 is god tier basically no one meets the standard uh

Brian Atlasno examples because this level is UN obtainable now uh 9.5 that's the top 0.002% one out of 50,000 that's Ultra

Brian Atlasattractive super Top Model tier now there you might shift this chart is bugged boys it's a Bugg granted look I would not rank some of these people where they're at I might shift some up I

Brian Atlasmight shift some down this was not made by me okay uh I that whole top row all those women they're hideous what do you mean well not hideous okay none of them

Q (The Q Pill)are goodlooking not one of them wait wait Kelly Kell Andrew Kelly Gail Kelly Gail is she's she's I give her eight wait pull it back up I give

Brian AtlasKelly Gil maybe eight maybe adri no that's just an average looking broad all right Andrew he has very high high uh standards um we should have Andrew

Brian AtlasAndrew why don't you make one of those I think you should just reverse some of the rows that's all well in any case so I do look I I agree with you there that you could move some of these women up move some of them down it's just sort of

Brian Atlasa general guide I didn't make it it's from this Reddit so nine is top 0.005% one out of 20,000 people will be a nine

Brian Atlasthat's extremely attractive Top Model tier uh I don't even think though like model women I I don't think like their faces are like the the super the super

Brian Atlasmodels a lot of them have like the unique they they have got maybe Unique Look it doesn't always translate to like uh anyways so like like up at the top there you should take that fra chick

Brian Atlasmove her down and move that Kelsey chick up right all right for sure mhm mhm so okay 8.5 scroll down just a bit 8.5

Brian Atlasthat's the top 0.03% that's one out of 3,000 8% or eight is top 0.34% that's one out of a 750 very attra

Brian Atlasattractive model tier I they got to redo this [ __ ] chart man I don't know it's a little down at seven and a half it's bug this thing is bug is it what is it based on I need to see what it's based on I don't know it's

Brian Atlasit's bugged somebody just made up a chart yeah that's that's not changing my mind does I thought I'd show it um really quick just to kind of wrap up the conversation on the whole like waiting

Brian Atlasto hook up thing uh there is one image Austin uh if you can pull that up this is kind of like that's like you know what I mean that's

Brian Atlaskind of like okay you're going to be you you do you want to be that guy in the suit and this is here's the crazy thing a girl will be like yo I want to wait 3 months before hooking up with you and

Brian Atlasthen as soon as you break up the next boyfriend he's not going to have to wait the next guy she [ __ ] boom instant son

Brian AtlasI'm just saying it's [ __ ] up it's [ __ ] up boys I think Brian what's up I think you a little traumatized yeah like personal you've okay bro look I don't

Andrew Wilsonknow if you're just you're [ __ ] bad in what's the [ __ ] terminology what the [ __ ] I hang on this is some Benedict Arnold [ __ ] going on right now some Benedict Arnold [ __ ] going on Brian

Brian Atlaswho's that Q's Benedict Arnold Benedict Arnold is that the guy who turned on the US yeah he turned on Washington yeah on on the he he like def uh went to British

Q (The Q Pill)Co the British I got a tendency to psychoanalyze so I'm wondering why Brian is so hyper fixated on on it's Judas like behavior is what I

Brian Atlassee so you're telling me Q you've never encountered a girl who's like every single girl isn't your body count well I don't want okay I'm not going to reveal

Brian Atlasanything you're every single girl you've dated you you [ __ ] all of them right away yeah first or second every single

Kendraone there's never been a girl who was like oh way I could probably tell you why she's like that why who why the girl is making you wait I feel like it's

Kendraprobably because every other guy before that has probably not taking her seriously even when they did sleep with her so she probably just got exhausted about it

Kendrasure and she's probably just trying to break the cycle and it probably has nothing to do with you probably just the fact that every guy before I completely agree I told you that makes Brian's

Q (The Q Pill)point that makes Brian's Point that's that's faking virtue but but that's what I said I don't think she's wrong I don't think she's wrong she trying to protect herself no I said you you perfect you

Q (The Q Pill)you are well within your right to say n [ __ ] that I don't I'm not waiting but but I said they be going on these little self-healing Journeys and they're tired of I don't think self healing I think it's just trying to protect herself from

Q (The Q Pill)another [ __ ] it's a lot of self healing journe yes a selfhealing journey hang so so it's fake that would be faking virtue yeah so that like that

Andrew Wilsonmoves right into this this idea so the idea here is just hey I'm not going to do this because I think it'll give me a different outcome not because I'm going

Andrew Wilsonto do this for some type of like um higher reason or because I don't want to sleep with this guy it's just like I'm going to try something different because it'll give me a different outcome so now I'm not going to sleep that that I think

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