Twins RAGE QUIT?! She Called Her BF A BlATCH?! Toxic Girl ADMITS To Abuse?! | Dating Talk #178

Date: 2024-07-15
Duration: 7h 44m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Ayra Blake(guest)
SPEAKER_03Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_11TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_13TTS donations(audience)
SPEAKER_14Andrew Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

00:34:43
QuoteAyra performs live demo of screaming at a boyfriend for cheating — Brian plays the boyfriend on his phone

"I can't take you nowhere that's my best friend's party come on... you stay cheating you stay acting like a hoe I can't take you nowhere"

00:39:42
QuoteAyra admits she physically hit her ex-boyfriend multiple times — slapping and punching

"I slapped him a few times I like I would punch him in the back and like in the arm... I was like so mad"

00:48:47
QuoteAyra describes burning the Van Gogh painting her ex gave her with lighter fluid in a crackhead alley, recorded on Instagram

"I walked down the street like where all the crackheads were I start smashing the painting I recorded it... I lit it up with lighter fluid I sat there I started recording and I just let it burn"

01:33:49
QuoteJanara reveals she called her boyfriend a "blatch" (bitch) during an argument about vaping

"I said okay I understand can you stop being a [blatch]... it was just a [blatch]"

02:53:00
QuoteForever Untamed agrees with Andrew that men facing the draft deserve more political say than women who don't

"I agree with that where if you want to talk about gender roles then yes there has to be like an incentive like Andrew's talking about that it has to be bigger thing for the man versus the woman"

02:55:30
ControversyBrian argues women should be subject to the draft for true equality — pragmatically more achievable than removing women's suffrage

"just pragmatically speaking we need to move towards what feminists have been fighting for equality y'all can be drafted too"

04:28:00
QuoteAndrew Wilson rated as a "7 / prince vibes" by multiple guests

"I would really say that you're like a seven like you're giving like Prince Vibes... you look like a former Prince like somebody that used to be a prince back when he was younger"

05:11:00
ControversyBrian tells the twins (Summer and Sarah) to "shut the f*** up" — they rage quit the show and walk off

"shut the [f***] up... I said the words shut the [f***] up and then... they walked out bro they walked out"

05:25:35
ControversyAndrew Wilson and panel discuss why the twins rage quit — concludes it was a mild trigger for a much bigger issue

"major rage quit... I just want to let you know that they did defend their point of view... there was nothing there that warranted Rage... you've been having fun most of the night"

06:11:48
QuoteSarah explains Islamic rules on polygamy: first wife must consent, husband must treat all wives equally in material goods

"in order for a man to marry Four Women they have to one treat them all equally if I buy her a Lamborghini I have to buy her a Lamborghini too... the first wife does has to consent"

07:08:26
QuoteBrian admits he fumbled by telling the twins to shut up

"damn bro damn I shouldn't told those chicks to shut the [f***] up no no oh man I fumbled bro I fumbled fumbled bag"

Topics Discussed

00:00:10
Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show, plugs streamlabs/Twitch/Patreon. Guest introductions: Jess (36, Calabasas, plastic surgery marketing director, married), Ayra Blake (20, Hollywood, aspiring runway model/accounting student), Forever Untamed (40, Orange County, celebrity makeup artist/coach), Summer and Sarah (24, LA, Sea Twins, models/clothing brand), Janara (19, Fullerton, student/party promoter), Sam (22, Boise, aesthetician), Naomi (27, Boise, car wrap business, pregnant), Liz (25, Orange County, car wrap business). Andrew Wilson (in-person co-host) introduces himself last.

00:14:35
Relationship Status Round

Brian goes around the table: Jess married 2 years (together 5), husband is CBS dog show host. Ayra single ~2 years (only 1 boyfriend; complicated on-and-off with cheater). Forever Untamed single/celibate ~8 months, longest rel ~3.5 years. Summer single ~2-3 years. Sarah single ~2-3 years. Janara single 3 weeks (recent breakup over vape). Sam in a 4-year relationship. Naomi just started dating, pregnant. Liz in a relationship. Andrew Wilson married. Discussion of why Ayra tolerated her ex's infidelity, the screaming/hitting incident, and her burning/destroying his gifts.

00:16:00
Ayra's Abusive Relationship & Rage Demo

Extended discussion of Ayra's only relationship: on-and-off 2-3 years, ex had agreed to exclusivity but continued seeing other women and told her. She would break up then return. Multiple incidents: she hit him 3 times in the same week (slapping, punching), he hit back once. She burned the Van Gogh painting he gave her (lighter fluid, recorded it on Instagram). Gave his clippers and cologne to a homeless man. Screamed at him for hours while he played Call of Duty. Performs a live demo of screaming at Brian. Andrew calls it "psycho" behavior. Ayra takes full accountability but attributes it to not removing herself from a bad situation. Still in contact with his family (blocked them all recently). Title reference: "Toxic Girl ADMITS To Abuse."

00:59:20
Stoicism & Vibrational Frequencies Debate

Summer claims to teach stoicism and "vibrational frequencies." Andrew Wilson challenges her to name a stoic philosopher who discussed vibrational frequencies. She references "Maximus" but cannot name Marcus Aurelius when asked about Meditations. Brian helps clarify. Andrew quotes Gladiator (Maximus Decimus Meridius) sarcastically. A TTS donor invents a fake philosopher "daus Maximus van noan" which Brian reads as the answer.

01:11:00
Janara's Vape Breakup & "Blatch" Incident

Brian reads Janara's TikToks: she posted about "dating to marry" but "every boy is a cheater liar." Discussion of her recent breakup: she asked her 21yo boyfriend to buy her a vape (she was 19, store carded her), he refused (didn't want to do something illegal). She told him she'd "get it from someone else." Argument escalated; she called him a "blatch" (bitch). He broke up with her the next day. Panel discusses why calling a man a "blatch" is considered disrespectful/emasculating. Janara admits she didn't know it was a serious issue. Title reference: "She Called Her BF A BlATCH."

02:07:00
Marriage Debate (Secular vs Religious)

Brian asks why men should get married secularly. Panel goes around. Summer argues a "real man" should get married to demonstrate commitment. Andrew asks if she would sign a prenup giving her nothing in divorce — she says yes only under certain conditions. Brian argues marriage introduces a financial incentive for women to leave and therefore reduces security for men. Forever Untamed agrees marriage is sacred but celibacy/no dating unless conditions right. Sarah brings Islam: polygamy allowed if first wife consents and husband treats equally. Extended exchange about secular vs religious grounds for marriage. Andrew and Brian agree: no compelling secular argument for men to marry given no-fault divorce laws.

02:53:00
Women's Suffrage & the Military Draft

One of the twins (Sarah) says she disagrees with women being drafted. Andrew argues: if you can vote politicians into wars you don't have to fight, that's unfair — men are compelled to serve. Extended debate. Sarah and Forever Untamed both partially agree: if gender roles return (men as protectors/providers), men should have more political say. Guest (possibly Summer) argues women contribute to wartime (nursing, home front). Andrew counters they are not compelled to do so. Brian agrees women should be subject to the draft for equality. Discussion of Iran-Iraq war (Forever Untamed's personal experience). Andrew: "context matters" — quotes the n-word context example. Ayra debates this at length.

03:16:00
Plastic Surgery & Mental Illness Debate

Brian states plastic surgery correlates with mental illness. Jess objects — she works in a plastic surgery office. Discussion of "Snapchat dysmorphia" (wanting surgery to look like filtered version of yourself). Jess notes her office does gynecomastia (male breast reduction) — mostly men. Brian argues men are unaware when women have had subtle plastic surgery. Panel discusses BBL, fake lips, Botox. Brian has a strong no-plastic-surgery preference for himself. Andrew: reconstructive surgery after war/accident is acceptable. Jess: implants on Forever Untamed mentioned briefly. Statistics: female plastic surgery demand now trending toward male levels.

04:28:00
Self-Rating Round & Height Preferences

Andrew asks each guest to rate themselves and whether 1,000 random men would rate them a 10. Most guests claim everyone is a 10 or deflect. One guest rates Andrew 7/prince vibes; panel agrees. Andrew deflects to rating Brian instead. Discussion of height preferences: one guest prefers men 6'1"+; last dated men 6'2" and 5'8". Brian notes 6'1" is top 10% of male height. Discussion of whether height is a genuine requirement or just preference. Guest says she'd date a 5'5" guy if vibes aligned. Extended discussion about whether women can/can't rate other women's physical appearance.

05:11:00
Twins Rage Quit

After an extended debate where Brian told the twins (Summer and Sarah) to "shut the f*** up," they walked off the set. Ayra, who drove them, is asked if she should go check on them. The panel discusses what happened. Forever Untamed says the twins were arguing back and forth without listening. Brian acknowledges he probably shouldn't have said it but stands by the moderation call. Andrew notes this was much milder than typical Whatever rage quits — the conversation had been good overall and the trigger was minor. Brian calls it a "W for us." Ayra stays on the show. Title reference: "Twins RAGE QUIT?!" Later Brian says "I fumbled" by telling them to shut up.

06:10:00
Brian's Type Disclosure

Brian reads his written-down type from his notes: any race but slight preference for white/Asian women. Preference for short women (will date any height). Natural body supremacist — strong preference against plastic surgery, fake tits, BBL, lipo, labiaplasty, fake lips. Minimal makeup. Small boobs "elegant" — can be sexy with large boobs but believes small-breasted women can be "beautiful" while large-breasted women can only be "sexy." Still undecided on butts. Panel reacts. Forever Untamed (who has implants) responds about clothing elegance for smaller-chested women.

06:46:00
Dating App Review (Bumble/Hinge)

Brian goes through Bumble profiles with various guests reacting. Most guests reject all profiles shown. A few profiles get yes votes. Brian shows his own type note. Discussion of men with anime tattoos, Star Wars photoshopped photos, age ranges (18-22 preferred by younger guests). One guest was going to date a dwarf (asked if labia match). Double rage quit from two unnamed guests (separate from the twins) — one woman leaves when asked if she would date a dwarf; Brian forgot to apply the rage quit rule. Naomi/psycho ex mentioned (sent to prison for stalking). Bumble review for Liz included.

07:00:00
Survival in the Woods (100 Days Challenge)

Brian asks how many days out of 100 each guest would survive alone in the woods. Discussion of water (72 hours without), food (weeks), air. Morgan (SPEAKER_09) correctly gives the scientific answer for water survival. Brian jokes he'd survive longest. Most guests think they'd last about 2 weeks. Discussion of Naked and Afraid. Seasonal advantage (it's summertime, July).

07:24:00
Show Wrap-Up & Raid

Brian wraps the show — says next episode is Tuesday 5 PM Pacific. Thanks super chatters. GG's to panel. Raid to Wo Grandma (82yo playing World of Warcraft retail). Final comments from TTS donors. Brian acknowledges fumble with the "shut the f*** up" comment about the twins. Show ends.

Transcript

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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead my name is Jess I am 36 I live in Calabasas but I'm a marketing director for a plastic surgery
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Brian Atlasoffice in Newport Beach that specializes in gynecomastia uh and your clientele is primarily men is that correct yeah what's the you said
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Ayra BlakeI think in your pre notes you indicated 80% yeah men okay all right what about you hi my name is ayra Blake I am 20 years old I currently live in Hollywood
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Ayra BlakeCalifornia and my occupation that I'm working on right now is being a full-time runway model full-time runway model okay are you in school right now did you say I am
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Ayra Blakein school what are you studying I'm studying business administration and I want to major in accounting okay I see uh you're an
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Ayra Blakeaspiring runway model yes have you practiced your walk I always practice my walk people are very much irritated with me because all I do is practice my walk all you do is practice the walk okay all
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Brian Atlasright you got it down pretty good or are we getting a good demo should we get a demo I there's probably not enough space unfortunately but cool cool what about you my name is Sonia ke better known as
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)forever Untamed I'm allegedly 40 I do identify as 27 to 32 depending on the day I'm from Orange County uh celebrity makeup artist hair stylist and I do own
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)a salon and just venturing into women empowerment coaching and relaunching my podcast so pretty when you say uh women empowering empowerment wom woman women
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Brian AtlasEmpower wom empowerment women wom and women woman woman plural singular it's all very confusing uh you said what so what do you do for the Empower how do you Empower so it goes from accountability to self-awareness and I
00:05:05
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)help them to be their best version of themselves so whether it's relationship advice whether it's career whatever it is it's that guidance through my journey I help them be their best version of
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Brian Atlasthemselves I see okay and what is it like a a counseling type thing where you sit down with them in person or how does it typically work well it's more phone calls so I kind of launched it recently
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)so I've been doing it more so sporadically but but officially so I have an initial call to see if that's something that I can help them with so they fill out questionnaire and just kind of see assess if someone's serious what is it that I can help them if it's
00:05:41
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)something that I can definitely help them then I bring them on and we kind of plan out you know a 30 60 90day like game plan of what we need to do and then kind of go from there so
00:05:52
Andrew Wilsonwhat do you and what do you typically Char um just just real quick um there was one quick point of clarification I wanted did you say you helped them through uh because of your journey so
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)what I've gone through like life I guess um I've been through a lot of different things and I feel like social media I've helped a lot of women through being open and vulnerable with everything that I go
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)through so it's more so advice for women so it's a safe space for women that they can come you know I've um I don't know if you can say DV domestic violence all and you and you teach them
00:06:27
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)accountability you said that depends what they're needing so it honestly depends on what they need whether if it's relationship so I have a couple of girls that are going through relationship that relationships that are
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)kind of stuck or um um some that are trying to figure out what they want to do with their next steps of life so honestly it depends so I'm there for whatever they need and if it's something that I truly think that I
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)can help them with then I take them on if I can't then I don't I kind of give them advice that I can or maybe give them um refer them to other people that
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)I may know in the business but yeah it's still it's still pretty brand new so I'm still honing it in but it's exciting cuz it's been something that I've been doing
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)on social media basically for free cuz I say my passion is people as makeup artist I love to make women feel beautiful and have their inner and outer
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)beauty match and so when I'm able to do that um as I said like people are my
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)passion and making them helping change the world is my mission like being the best version of themselves so I don't
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)know it's it's kind of fun adventure I don't know the answers yet it's Andrew right I don't know them yet but we're we're figuring out as we go so we're figuring out as we go so it's it's an
00:07:48
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)adventure it is an adventure it's an adventure of growth together I think that's a thing um that as me as a perfectionist I usually have a tendency to to perfect things before I start them
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)so this one I'm like you know what we're going to start it and we're going to perfect it as I grow I'm going to grow as a coach and my clients are going to help me grow so it's a it's an exciting adventure to see where it goes all right
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)well good luck with the exciting Adventure thank you how do you how much do you typically charge for a session or whatever well right now I'm kind of doing more consults like I'll do like 15
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)30 minute just like phone call for free um and then just depends on what they need so um before I was charging 250 for
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)like an hour session to sit down so it just depends what the program is but for typically I what I have it now it's like
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)a 90day kind of coaching for 1,500 bucks so it includes you know uh weekly Zoom calls um they have access to me through text um so I'm basically available to
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)them at all times but they have that once a week call if they need more than that then they can reach out um so yeah and then I uh I have here in my notes
00:09:02
Brian Atlasthat you have only fans for makeup I had one I had not anymore though okay and you were just posting
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)uh I was posting makeup stuff on when the during um the lockdown I think when they were trying to steer away from the sex work they reached out for makeup artist hair stylist so they were the one
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)that actually reached out to me they made a promo video for me so they promoted the makeup the hair Fitness Enthusiast so what I was doing is posting wa when you say they are you talking about fans only fans corporate
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)or some like third party corporate was the corporate okay so they made a promo video for me for makeup hair I think it's still on Twitter if you go look for it but um and then I would post sexy
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Brian Atlasphoto shoots too that I have you have Twitter what is it I think it's _ forever Untamed I'm very bad at that I might have already I just walked into it something d d d all right let's see what kind of dirt
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)I can find uh well okay I didn't find I I didn't find anything but all right um moving on what about you uh my name is Summer um I'm an educational speaker as
00:10:09
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)well as a model and I love to be in film short films and um I really love what she's doing I feel like um me and my twin sister are on a similar path where we Empower people to be their better selves and through the education and
00:10:22
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)knowledge that I've learned throughout my life as well as in my culture and history um that I like to empower people and educate them on on how to become their best self sure can I have you uh oh laptop came out of nowhere can I have
00:10:34
Brian Atlasyou tilt your mic down just a little bit yes this this better perfect age I'm 24 24 all right uh any history of o or
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)anything like that no okay what about you um well me and my sister were called the sea twins but my name is Sarah um we live in Los Angeles California we are um
00:10:55
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)models in LA but we are young entrepreneurs as well mhm um we just launched our new uh clothing brand sea um and then we also are educational
00:11:05
Brian Atlasspeakers as well so and I'm we were 24 IM you guys are twins so 30 seconds older age would be the same uh okay TW
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)both 24 when you say educational speak or what do you um so when we go on um different platforms uh we tend to love to talk about things that are factually
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)educational for the community and also just the world like there's just a lot of people spreading false education in the world and a lot of like fake mentorship and U motivation so I just
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)like to go off of a factual basis and just statistically prove a point with like pure knowledge and I think that the world is going the opposite direction so I think it's
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)necessary okay all right what about you hi I'm janara I'm 19 I'm from Fullerton California I attend Cal State Fullerton as a business major concentrating in
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Brian Atlasaccounting and I'm also so a party promoter party promoter okay and are you an authority no do they do they have uh Greek orgs at you said Cal State Fullerton C State Fullerton yeah I don't
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Brian Atlasdo that and you're a party promoter is that I'm assuming that's in Fullerton or yeah it's just a little side hustle okay and so uh does that involve you also going to the parties partying okay cool
00:12:22
Brian Atlascool all right how long you been doing that for I think like about half a year now half a year okay you you're going into your junior year or sophomore year
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)sophomore sophomore got it what about you I'm Sam I'm 22 years old I'm from boisee Idaho and I'm a licensed
00:12:41
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)aesthetician all right uh Idaho have you always lived there um I grew up mostly in Salt Lake City lived in Alaska for a few years and then I moved back to
00:12:52
Brian Atlasboisey when I was 17 all right okay I think you might be our first have we had somebody from Idaho before I think you have I saw one
00:13:02
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)girl one episode yeah okay not the first but okay cool what about you my name's Naomi I am also from Boise Idaho I'm 27 and I own a salon all right you guys
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Brian Atlaswork together yeah yeah and we're sisters oh and related okay and sisters all right and uh okay and what about you uh my name is Liz I live in Ventura
00:13:26
Brian AtlasCounty and I own a car wrapping business business oh age oh 25 25 you own a car wrapping business do you do the actual
00:13:37
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)wrapping yourself or do you have like everything we take like the bumpers off the door handles the mirror caps Etc redo everything it's not just WS you
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)you actually take the bumpers off yourself yeah I'm big you personally yes okay I do I refuse to take off any bumpers or anything on like McLaren and stuff like that cuz I don't want that
00:14:01
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)liability on my business so I hire that out but for like Beamers Mercedes daily Vehicles I'll do all
00:14:09
Andrew Wilsonthat all right cool are you in school at all or no school all right Andrew what about you my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it is to my
00:14:22
Andrew Wilsonknowledge the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst a political saturnist and occasionally like to engage debates all right welcome Andrew welcome everybody
00:14:33
Brian Atlasgoing around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits
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Brian Atlasrelationship married polyal sex C terum whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead uh so I I'm
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Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)currently married um longest relationship I've ever been been in was 8 years is that your marriage or no okay how long have you been uh married
00:15:05
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)married for 2 years but been with them for five now all right cool any kids congratulations no kids but we have
00:15:14
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)about 20 dogs 20 dogs and a hairless cat you have like a an animal sanctuary or uh my husband's a TV host for a dog show
00:15:24
Brian Atlason CBS he's a TV host for a dog show on CBS what's it called have we heard of it a lucky dog haven't heard of it but very cool very cool what about you wait is he like
00:15:36
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)a dog whisperer like is he dog trainer yeah he he does dog training we do Ser we I just snuggle the dogs but he does service dogs um he also has a master class for dog uh dog training does he
00:15:48
Brian Atlaslike correct dogs that behave really poorly yes like he'll get them in in line or whatever okay cool what about
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Ayra Blakeyou I am C cury single I have been for about 3 years now um my first relationship I've only ever had one
00:16:06
Ayra Blakeboyfriend and we dated for about 2 to 3 years if you ask him he might say something different but we were together for a very long time and that's wait he
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Ayra Blakemight what do you mean he might say something different because we broke up with each other and then he moved on and
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Ayra BlakeI still liked him but um he would still like make me feel wanted almost so it was hard for me to move on for a very long time so I feel like we were still
00:16:36
Brian Atlastogether even though we broke up but on his part I think he had a new girlfriend probably five girlfriends I don't know what there's this Mitch Hedberg joke it goes something along the along the lines
00:16:48
Brian Atlasof I don't have a girlfriend but I know a girl who'd be mad at me if she heard me say that I think I kind of put I think I got it about right but in in any case so you
00:16:59
Brian Atlaswere more so in the relationship than he was yes okay and it was two to three years on again off again kind of yes how many times was it off and on um I would
00:17:09
Ayra Blakesay about five major times five major times what about Minor the minor miners maybe like 10 but it was only for like 5
00:17:19
Ayra Blakeminutes and we were like okay I love you sorry okay and so more often than not who was initiating the off um it was
00:17:29
Ayra Blakealways me because he would want to text other women in front of me or talk to other women in front of me so I would
00:17:39
Ayra Blakebreak up with him and I would break up with him every single time but then um I would also be the one to pull us back together so so you would break up with
00:17:49
Brian Atlashim but then also reach back out to get yeah um and so was he upfront with you I mean you had knowledge of it so he was very
00:18:01
Ayra Blakeupfront if I were to ask him like are you cheating on me he would just tell me like yeah like it would take him a while to get the final answer but when he
00:18:12
Ayra Blakefinally would tell me he would tell me exactly what happened and why I don't want to name his name but he was adopted and so he would always give me the same
00:18:22
Ayra Blakeexcuse and tell me that like he's looking for his mom and a woman and I would have to do with that yeah I was dealing with that for a very long time
00:18:32
Brian Atlaslooking for his mom and in multiple women sounds like uh and so okay so but I mean was he up front with you that he didn't want monogamy he didn't want
00:18:42
Ayra Blakecommitment no he was very much like you cannot be with anyone else but I'm going to be with other people oh well he was up front about
00:18:52
Brian Atlasthat yeah okay and were you with other people when we would break up you okay but so if he was upfront with you that
00:19:02
Brian Atlashe was going to be seeing other girls was it really cheating it was cheating because we in a relationship told right you were in a relationship where he could see other women and you couldn't
00:19:14
Ayra Blakesee other men it wasn't like I allowed him to it was just that he was expressing to me what he was doing because I knew that something wasn't right well okay did you guys at any point have an actual over
00:19:26
Brian Atlasconversation about hey hey this is exclusive we're not seeing other people yes we had that conversation multiple times but but but you said that he said that he was going to be seeing other
00:19:37
Ayra Blakegirls and he wanted you to just be seeing him stick around yeah it was because he had a lot of personal issues so he was literally looking for a mother
00:19:48
Ayra Blakea mother figure and any woman that he could be with so it was like he was holding on to me because he knew that's where his heart lied but he was also
00:19:58
Ayra Blakelooking for more of himself in other women I see okay but he was upfront with you that
00:20:07
Ayra Blakethis was he was seeing other women right yes he was and you would break up with him with okay yes okay I dealt with it
00:20:17
Brian Atlasbecause I loved him and it was cheating because I loved him so but if you loved him but if he told you I I'm down to see you but I want this to be like a
00:20:28
Ayra Blakeessentially an open relationship I mean that's as farther along as we got that's more of what it turned into like exactly what you said it did not start off like that it it
00:20:40
Ayra Blaketraveled to that more and more so when it did get to that point that's when I finally pulled back because he was expressing like I'm going to be with other people right but you said each time you broke up with him was because
00:20:53
Brian Atlashe was involved with another woman but then despite knowing that he would be involved with other women you would AC accept him yes because not even accept him back you would go back to him I felt
00:21:04
Ayra Blakelike he was the only person who would love me Nick oh okay I felt like he was the only person who would love me and I'm very much attached to someone who
00:21:16
Ayra BlakeI've become comfortable with it's hard for me to readjust to people so that's why I would deal with it because I didn't want to have to readjust to someone else right but I mean if he kind of said and I don't I'm not saying that
00:21:28
Brian AtlasI agree with the kind of arrangement that he had going on but if he tells you I'm going to be seeing other women and then you break up with him but then you go back to him without some sort of
00:21:40
Brian Atlasultimatum of you can't do that anymore just by virtue of you reaching back out to him would seem to indicate to at least to him that you are now you
00:21:52
Brian Atlaswere willing to be in a relationship with him despite his I don't even categorize it as cheating but despite him seeing other women yes I was willing to be with him so it wasn't cheating
00:22:04
Brian Atlasthen it right but if you if you okay so you would have to um there would have to be an establishment that he wouldn't for you to continue seeing him he can't see
00:22:15
Ayra Blakeother girls but you'd go back to him despite his representation that's the establishment when you become in a relationship with someone when you become in a relationship you establish
00:22:26
Ayra Blakethat you're only going to be with that person so I'm trying to like break up with him because he wants to be with other people but I also love him so I go back to him and I'm like we can't do this anymore he would agree with me he
00:22:38
Ayra Blakewould be honest to me about what happened but then he would keep doing it he would continue to do it so it wasn't like well honestly yes I do know what I was getting myself into but I also feel
00:22:49
Ayra Blakelike I was hoping for the best at the same
00:22:55
Brian Atlastime I don't think he was cheating I mean he told you he told you it's like but what do you expect you you break up
00:23:04
Brian Atlaswith him but then you go back to him but he's already communicated to you that he's going to be sleeping with other chicks so by you going back to him
00:23:15
Brian Atlasthat's your accepting that's essentially you accepting his terms yes if he was okay if he was reaching back out to you he's like babe I'm sorry let's be together let's be
00:23:27
Brian Atlasmonogamous and then he did it that's one thing but you going back to him I imagine it wasn't under like there wasn't a ultimatum where well you're reaching back out to him but I'll only
00:23:38
Ayra Blakeget back with you if you're not sleeping with other girls that was sort of the conversation but at the same time I was more focused on being back with him than what he was
00:23:50
Ayra Blakedoing because the type of person I am I really don't like I know this sounds bad but being with other people wasn't my main Focus like as long as he was able to be there for me when I needed him and
00:24:03
Ayra Blakeable to understand the things that I couldn't communicate to anyone else that was the main focus for me so being able to have a person that I can express those things with was the main focus so
00:24:13
Ayra BlakeI was mentally draining myself tuning out the cheating and making it seem like it wasn't a big issue when it really was okay we can uh come back to some of
00:24:24
Ayra Blakethat later I know you have a tattoo here that says the real real brat oh real Brad a real brat a real brat my name is ayra but I am a big brat I also am very
00:24:36
Ayra Blakereal I'm the realest the realest in red I'm not sexy red I'm the sexiest red thank you very much and so all together it's a real
00:24:46
Ayra Blakebrat a real a real brat a real brat I am a real brat what's a fake brat is fake brat is someone who not actually a brat but you pretend to be a brat is being
00:24:57
Ayra Blakeable to get your way and not putting up with anything else a fake brat is someone who acts like they're getting their way but they're not I am getting my way real Brad is well you didn't get
00:25:07
Ayra Blakeyour way with your ex-boyfriend and I left it alone and I'm Hing better for the future after a long three four years yes I finally left it alone and my real
00:25:19
Ayra Blakebrattis in me is not looking for anyone right now and I feel like that's what makes me a real brat too because I'm focused on getting what I want and not let letting anyone stop me all right and
00:25:30
Ayra Blakeyou how long have you been single for about 2 years I would say it depends on when you consider that we broke up when's the last time you saw that
00:25:41
Ayra Blakeguy yesterday late last night um about two three weeks ago oh whoops hold on I didn't mean to press
00:25:51
Brian Atlasthat one uh wait so hold on you said you've been single for 2 years but you saw this guy as recently as two two weeks ago two
00:26:02
Andrew Wilsonthree weeks ago two three two two was there uh was there carnal knowledge involved in this uh visit was there carnal
00:26:11
Ayra Blakeknowledge what does that mean carnal knowledge sexual intercourse p and the v no we have not we actually haven't done anything physical since about 2 years that's kind of when I consider that we
00:26:24
Andrew Wilsonbroke up it was when I first went to college nothing physical nothing physical but you have so what do you guys what do you guys do just meet up and go to Baskin Robins and have ice
00:26:33
Ayra Blakecream not what we do his his mother is like very much a great friend of mine also like a second mom to me and so every single time they have a family
00:26:45
Ayra Blakeevent or graduation or his sister recently had a baby I'm always invited so I find myself with his family a lot and that's why I've seen him
00:26:56
Brian Atlasrecently okay um so before you just it was a family get together or yeah it was his little brother's graduation from high
00:27:07
Ayra Blakeschool wait his little brother's graduation from high school yes and your family is involved your family is involved to or no I'm close friends with
00:27:18
Ayra Blakehis whole family so they invite me to everything that's why I've seen him so recently I see
00:27:26
Ayra Blakeokay you didn't hook up two to 3 weeks ago no we very much didn't I wish we did because I really I love him so much but
00:27:38
Ayra Blakehe's so upset the way our relationship went and he blames me for everything so that's why I had to pull myself back because I want to be with someone who
00:27:49
Ayra Blakesees me as a great person a great woman and I feel like he doesn't see me as that because I put up with so many terrible things that he did has like a different reputation for me now it's
00:28:00
Ayra Blakejust oh this girl she's going to put up with whatever like I don't have to treat her with respect like that's how he sees me now so I really can't ever be with him again wait you just said you wanted
00:28:11
Ayra Blaketo hit I want to be with him but I can't it's it's a principle it's discipline wait but it sounded like you
00:28:22
Ayra Blakewanted to hit but he didn't it's not like he didn't we both did but we didn't because he sees me as someone who he can
00:28:33
Ayra Blakeplay with so I try not to put myself in that situation even though I want to okay and I want to because I've been with him for a very long time and I wouldn't want to restart with someone
00:28:44
Andrew Wilsonnew in these instances where he SW well this is that's really weird to me though um if you don't mind me just kind of asking why would you be going to events
00:28:55
Andrew Wilsonwith this guy's family and be uh having close personal relationships with this guy's family if that wasn't a way in which you can kind of piggy back off of them to get close to him usually you
00:29:07
Andrew Wilsonwould think that if you were in a disastrous relationship where the man and the woman had decided that they just weren't right for each other that generally they tend to space each other away from each other's families uh you
00:29:19
Andrew Wilsonknow personal connections things like this so that they don't have to see each other anymore this is really it's really odd right a little strange that you're going to as little brothers graduation
00:29:29
Ayra Blakeright that's uh little weird it is a little weird every time before one of his family members events I always give myself this pet talk which
00:29:40
Ayra Blakeis not great I'm like you're stupid you're so dumb why are you here stay away from his family he doesn't want to be with you I always tell myself that
00:29:48
Ayra Blakebut I always end up going because I have like this Everlasting faith that he'll finally like treat me right and want to be with me and he'll see so you are so you are using the family as a piggyback
00:30:01
Andrew Wilsonto get close to this guy like that's by your own admission you're piggy back you're like you're attaching yourself to his family members so that you can be close in proximity in hopes that he one day has a turnaround and he's like
00:30:13
Andrew Wilsonfinally you know Eureka the light bulb went off I was I you know I was brushing my teeth this morning and uh and ding there it is you're the girl of my dreams I always knew it like is that is is that
00:30:26
Ayra Blakethe Eureka you think is coming or sometimes that is the goal but other times it's not solely me I feel like his mother wants me to be with him as well
00:30:35
Ayra Blakeso I feel like she also does this to help me and him regain a stronger Bond but it's funny because when she and does does he tell his mama to mind her own
00:30:46
Andrew Wilsonbusiness does he say Mom mind your own [ __ ] business doesn't he he does y yeah he does he does he says Mom I don't give a [ __ ] what you say I've never cared what you said Mom I still love you
00:30:57
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)Mom adore you you're my mom but uh mind your own business that's what he says isn't it yes it is yeah yeah I think there's a situation Andrew when girl you got to call me after this and we're going to work through this together I'll
00:31:09
Brian Atlashook you up wait yeah she'll only charge you x amount of dollars right I'm just only I'll just do the at this point I'll do it for free I'm going need you to get out of this what I mean what other
00:31:19
Brian Atlasadvice is there to give but move on I know there's no other there is no other prescriptive thing we can tell you this guy's you sit like he's going to
00:31:31
Brian Atlascontinue seeing other women if he was really about you he would only be about you so like you're you're basically you were are will be the side chick Point Blank period I'm not saying
00:31:44
Brian Atlasthat to be mean I'm just trying to give you like a wakeup call here you got to like you're still pining over this dude um but I'm just confused because you say you've been single for two years but
00:31:56
Brian Atlasyou're seeing this okay I'm single but I have Metro donated $69 we'll move on in a move the F bro thank you Metro appreciate it uh when in the instances
00:32:07
Brian Atlaswhere he would allegedly cheat on you was there any retribution on from your end as in slashing tires reputation
00:32:16
Ayra Blakedestruction anything like that the most I would do is I I'm a very much of a not talk to you person so I
00:32:26
Ayra Blakewould just not talk to him if I did talk to him I would constantly scream at him like there would be he would not be able to communicate I would just be standing there screaming at him for hours and then I would
00:32:38
Brian Atlascry sounds healthy you you would scream at him for hours and he wouldn't get a one word in no how do what this was an like multi-hour monologue yes he
00:32:50
Ayra Blakewouldn't even respond he just sit there playing Call of Duty yes and he sometimes wait would he be on a video game while you're were younger he would either be on the game or on his phone or we would be outside in the middle of going somewhere sometimes we would be
00:33:01
Ayra Blakeout places and he would talk to someone and I would grab him make him leave and I would yell at him the whole way home you would yell at him in public yes
00:33:11
Andrew Wilsonyikes the whole way um so so I got I got to say uh to your whoever this mystery man is Sir run away as fast as you can
00:33:20
Andrew Wilsonflee never look back again tell Mommy and little brother to stop having relationships with your possibly ex-girlfriends who may not have been the girlfriend but that would be my
00:33:33
Andrew Wilsonrecommendation you know I and I know somewhere he's watching this or will be watching this and he's thinking man I've tried everything I've done everything I
00:33:41
Andrew Wilsoncould possibly do she calls my mom on Saturdays bro she calls her on Saturday yeah yeah okay I recently just blocked
00:33:52
Ayra Blakehis mother his brother his sister and him because I can't do this anymore so yeah he can't do that [ __ ]
00:34:01
Brian Atlaseither yikes wait okay let's can we get I want a 30 second demo so I'm here's what I'm going to do I'm going to play solitire for hold
00:34:13
Ayra Blakeon all right I don't think you're ready hold on all right look I'm going to play solitire all right you just yell at me like how you yelled at him go ahead what are you doing why are you talking to
00:34:26
Ayra Blakethem I can't take you nowhere that's my best friend's party come on I literally am going to have to hear about this tomor please no don't say don't say anything please be quiet no because you
00:34:37
Ayra Blakestay cheating you stay acting like a hoe I can't take you nowhere you need to go home don't leave me where you going come back what is wrong with you I don't know
00:34:47
Ayra BlakeI don't I can't no be quiet stop I every single time we go somewhere we cannot go anywhere we cannot go anywhere I can't take you anywhere please like can you
00:34:59
Ayra Blakeplease just act like you want to be with me or we do not have to go places we can deal with this inside not outside sorry I was busy playing
00:35:08
Andrew WilsonSol who whoa whoa can we put the cuckoo back in the clock here lady for just a minute listen I that was rough was that was like that sounded like you rehearsed
00:35:19
Ayra Blakethis yeah yeah it happen so it happened so many times where like at that point I would just like go off I would nonstop like I would lose my voice just
00:35:30
Ayra Blakescreaming at him because there was nothing I could say for him to actually stop what he was doing so I would just say everything I have like a random
00:35:40
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)one-off scenario question if like a guy came into your life and you and he was pursuing you and he was a good man and then this guy came back and he was like
00:35:50
Ayra Blakeno I want you which one would you take private chat at this point in my life I'm going to say the new person only
00:36:00
Ayra Blakebecause every other moment of my life I've taken him back and it wasn't worth it every single time it wasn't worth it because he still couldn't see me as
00:36:11
Ayra Blakesomeone who was worth being with and I want uh I want I want someone new who can see me as like a fresh beautiful soul and they don't have all this pent up anger against me or resentment because I let them do things that I
00:36:24
Jess/Summer/Sarah/Janara/Sam/Naomi/Liz (mixed)shouldn't have and I should have walked away a long time ago so you said that you blocked this guy's family yes you're not going to go over there anymore no okay if you want to call him just call me I got
00:36:36
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)you I think we've all been there though I'll be honest like the on and off it takes a minute and you say the real brat I think that's when you take your power back when you start realizing your self-worth and self resect and you're just like I don't want to deal with the
00:36:48
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)[ __ ] anymore so you know you deserve better but as someone who's been through it sometimes it takes a couple of couple of times for you realize it and then
00:36:59
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)your friends have all seen it and you start slowly seeing what they saw and then you realize that it's time to cut it up but I'm proud of you I'm I'm going to cut through all this [ __ ] I'm look I'm just going to come out and say
00:37:10
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)it you're not going to like it um she's the abusive one yeah she is she's being abusive she's for sure has a lot of she she you need a lot of healing my child but yeah but you you're telling
00:37:22
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)you're telling her you don't have to put up with it anymore hang on hang on hang on it's her journey it's her journey it's not that it's the fact that I'm saying that she definitely needs I'm not saying she doesn't need
00:37:34
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)help the fact that she needs to go through she has a lot of unhealed trauma for herself but at the same time she's not putting up with this so now you have to focus on yourself yeah I mean I'm not going to lie if if somebody yelled at me like that girl I would have cut you I
00:37:48
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)would have moved changed my phone number blocked you like left but it is the it is that resentment it is that pent up what you're not getting so you're frustrated you're both toxic and it just keeps getting more toxic and toxic because you're letting it happen so he
00:38:00
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)doesn't respect you you don't respect yourself he's not listening to you he's tuning you out and you get more frustrated because you don't feel hurt so it's like literally a toxic thing that just keeps [ __ ] building up building up until it explodes have you guys ever had a physical Al
00:38:14
Ayra Blake[Music] altercation yes we have but it wasn't it wasn't as bad as I would say um like abuse goes I I'm going be honest I think
00:38:25
Andrew Wilsonthat but this was uh this was physically attacking him right this is this is where we're going if I could make a prediction I believe that I hit him and
00:38:37
Ayra Blakethen he hit me back so I literally started crying I was like oh my God you hit me but I was so mad I did hit him I yeah but you can't raise your hand if you don't want to expect to get
00:38:49
Ayra Blakehit yeah I should did this happen more than once this happened not many times I would say three times in the same week to where it was like we were actually
00:38:59
Ayra Blakefighting but he was fighting me to a point where he wanted me to stop and I was fighting him to a point where I was angry so it was like he wasn't so he was defending himself yeah he wasn't like hurting me or anything he was genuinely
00:39:12
Brian Atlastrying to get was like holding your arms or and in the three times of the three times you mentioned you were the initiator in all of them yes okay and what were you slapping him what were you
00:39:23
Ayra Blakedoing I slapped him a few times I like I would punch him in the back and like in the arm this is so bad but I was like so angry he would sit on his phone in my
00:39:35
Ayra Blakeroom and text other females people that I used to be friends with people that I would see every day and I would just like scream at him like please like don't do that get off your phone he it was a game for him he was having so much
00:39:47
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)fun so I would like hit him yeah it was [Music] bad that was crazy I mean honestly I don't think he's at fault either because like Brian said he was honest with you like you he didn't have any consequences
00:39:59
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)cuz I've been through that where I had a ex he said he wanted options and I was like that's not no I'm Sorry by but he didn't have any consequences so he really didn't care and he told you what
00:40:10
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)he wanted which wasn't really you and it hurts to hear it but you just kind of like want to force it on him and then you just getting frustrated cuz you're not getting what you want but you're it's almost like selective hearing you're literally not listening to what he's saying and you're just like but
00:40:23
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)give me what I want and he's like well this is what I'm giving you and you just don't want to accept what he was giving you
00:40:33
Ayra Blakeyeah all right Kumbaya can I get a home this is also I mean this is also um wait you said he's adopted yes I I feel so bad that I put that out there but it's part of our love
00:40:46
Brian Atlasstory or was love story did you adjust the mic Nick I did okay um she needs to speak
00:40:53
Brian Atlascloser yeah yes uh it's also an for this guy to actually tolerate this level of disrespect he's clearly the victim in
00:41:05
Andrew Wilsonthis whole situation but okay can I give a can I give a counter though to this Brian I'm going to I'm going to counter signal you here what if it's you know it's 11:00 at
00:41:15
Andrew Wilsonnight and he wants some Arby's and it's really far away and it's open 24 hours you know 7 days you know she can go get the Arby's for him you know and and she'll just do it right so
00:41:30
TTS donationsget I'm going to Caro San Lucas in February next year would any of you on the panel boat to me Bucky lasson for six nights in a row if I flew you out to
00:41:40
Brian AtlasCaro okay I guess show of hands anybody here willing to take him up on his this Bucky Larsson wants to fly you guys out to Cabo
00:41:51
Brian Atlasanybody [ __ ] bro damn sorry Bucky sorry Andrew go ahead sounds like sex track well I'm just saying I you know I I understand what you're saying kind of an L for him because he's you know continuing to kind of lead her on and
00:42:02
Andrew Wilsonthis kind of thing but um you know I really feel like that that's deviating away from female accountability in this instance once you get to the well I hang out with his parents and his siblings in
00:42:14
Andrew Wilsonorder to get closer to him I feel like uh he's just kind of stuck at that but like what the hell is he going to do what's he going to like like he can't he can't avoid
00:42:27
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)keep inserting yourself in his life like I mean we do that like let's be real we've done that a lot we keep in touch with the family because we want to get back say it what I was trapping him for
00:42:39
Ayra Blakea certain amount of time that's what I wanted as well and then it just got Dreadful and then I started asking myself why am I here why am I doing this but at first it was like oh yeah like
00:42:49
Ayra Blakehis mom invited me oh I'm coming like but then it it I started to like gather myself his adoptive mother yes his is his mother aware of the nature of
00:43:02
Ayra Blakeyour guys's physically violent relationship I would tell her all the time and she would tell me like that he's not ready to be in a relationship and that he needs to like grow a lot
00:43:13
Ayra Blakemore within himself especially with his personal issues and that it's like not right for me to be with him but I would never listen to her so this whole thing's a massive cluster
00:43:25
Brian Atlas[ __ ] uh the adoptive mother is not advising her adopted son to try to exit a physically abusive relationship uh yeah that's I'm just not willing to throw
00:43:37
Andrew Wilsonthis poor guy under the bus just yet I'm just just not I'm just not quite there uh he seems he seems like uh he seems like he's had a hard time I mean you beating him up ingratiating yourself
00:43:48
Ayra Blakeinto his family won't leave him alone you know I mean you kind of sound like a pain in the ass honestly yes yes I do and that's why me
00:43:59
Ayra Blakeand him can't be together because we have so much trauma in our history but I don't see it like that which is part of my problem I see it all as like a long
00:44:10
Ayra Blakelove story but in conclusion to this whole situation I feel that when you are not getting what you need or you re need to receive in a relationship you need to
00:44:22
Ayra Blakeremove yourself or else it'll bring something else out of you that is not beautiful and that you don't need to experience and that's exactly what happened here it's just yeah I know not really because he tried to remove
00:44:34
Andrew Wilsonhimself and then you inserted yourself after he tried to remove himself right so that's not really what what happened here wait he don't get to remove himself
00:44:45
Ayra Blakeis that what you said yeah he does not get to remove himself until we both feel that that is what needs to happen but now that I'm thinking about it now [ __ ]
00:44:57
Andrew Wilsonit's okay have you ever seen the movie Psycho you know the shower scene with that music you know that music is playing right there that's all that's all I hear it's
00:45:07
Andrew Wilsonall I hear right now is that this poor guy is going to have a shower scene soon he's he's just you know he's going to get off Hard Day's work and then that's it the curtain's going to open and that's going to be it for him in All
00:45:19
Brian Atlasfriend he doesn't get to quit right he doesn't get to quit me he's not allowed to by the way uh TTS is has been bumped
00:45:27
Brian Atlasup to uh back to 200 um the whole situation is an absolute mess um are you trolling or is this
00:45:39
Ayra Blakelegit no I'm so serious if he were to watch this right now he would be so happy because you're validating his point everything that he says you are validating he would be so happy right
00:45:51
Ayra Blakenow he'd be like yeah I told you she's crazy like is is he wrong I am crazy when you drive me to
00:46:01
Andrew Wilsoncraziness yeah I see it's all his fault this poor logical reasonable human being who you hang out with his family this poor this poor deranged lunatic
00:46:13
Andrew Wilsonwhose family you're hanging out with I know it's uh poor the you know poor you really poor you I was going to say I mean I
00:46:23
Brian Atlasappreciate your I mean you're honest that's commendable not she's no I love that she's honest at least we can give her that right yeah honestly
00:46:36
Ayra Blakepsychotic I'm not psychotic anymore I have completely removed myself and I'm continuing to remove myself every single
00:46:45
Ayra Blakeday I'm continuing to understand what not being loved correctly does to me I don't put him at fault I put myself at fault because I should have taken
00:46:57
Ayra Blakeremoving myself from the situation a very long time ago and me staying is what brought this monster out of me and it's not because of him it's because of
00:47:08
Ayra Blakeme and I take full accountability for that and that's why moving forward I want to make sure that I know what triggers me and that I don't put myself in those positions and being not wanted
00:47:18
Ayra Blaketriggers me so I'm not going to be in any position where I am not wanted have you have you ever damaged any of his property yes I just love the honesty though uh like
00:47:30
Ayra Blakelike what he got me okay one one time there was a Christmas um that had one of the Christmases a few years ago and I had got him like all these gifts he used to like smoke in his mom's house so I
00:47:43
Ayra Blakewould buy him like candles so that you couldn't smell it his mom was so mad um but I had pressed him I was like why didn't you get me a gift like I don't understand like I don't care if you don't have any money like like you could
00:47:56
Ayra Blakeyou could Hustle and get me something like I was so upset and then one day in January he had like this long um pole
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Ayra Blakeand he like he gave it to me and inside of it was this long big picture of the Vincent Van Owen um sunflower painting
00:48:18
Ayra Blakeit's like a pot with like all the sunflowers in it wa Vincent Van go yes Vincent Van go okay okay you're going to I don't remember the name so you broke the vase or whatever it is no what
00:48:31
Ayra Blakehappened was it's a painting it's a long picture frame painting of the picture that he gave me and then um a few days later he took me we were walking down like a bunch of streets he's like we're almost there we're almost there I'm like
00:48:43
Ayra Blakewhat are we doing I guess he had bought a picture frame for it on offer up and he put it together we put it together it was like almost as big as this table a really big like Vincent Van Go picture
00:48:55
Ayra Blakeand you destroyed it what happened was one day he didn't want to see me and this was about like um 6 months later I was like very like in a traumatic phase of my life and I really
00:49:08
Ayra Blakeneeded him to be there for me but he was out with other girls and like with his friends who would take him with other girls and I was very much it was time to wreck that [ __ ] it was time to wreck
00:49:18
Ayra Blakethat teach him a lesson I was he need to be taught L like watching me everything that he gave me was watching me so I was like okay whatever ever I had some lighter fluid in the back I grabbed the lighter fluid I grabbed some matches I
00:49:31
Ayra Blakewalked down the street like where all the crackheads were I start smashing the painting I recorded it this is on Instagram I retract my free offer I'm going to need to charge your extra some
00:49:44
Ayra Blakeliability and insurance I smashed it into pieces in the crack head alley and I literally lit it up with lighter flu they were hyping
00:49:56
Ayra Blakeme up I lit it up with lighter fluid I sat there I started recording and I just let it burn I just sat there just like watched it burn he had gave me this big stuffed animal monkey and like it just
00:50:08
Ayra Blakereminded me of him cuz when we first met he was like kind of fat so like I called him fat Fat Daddy he had gave me like this fat monkey and so I was like okay like this is him I did not want the monkey so like
00:50:21
Ayra BlakeI tried to burn it I ran out of lighter fluid and there was a dog walking around I was like here dog doy want a toy and then the dog took it he ran off with it I just like said does he have a car oh
00:50:33
Ayra Blakewait before I tell you if he had a car he had some nice Clippers and some nice cologne I gave that to the homeless man who watched me burn his stuff charity oh so you you gave your stuff away okay
00:50:43
Brian Atlasyeah uh and so does he have a car he has a car now have you ever damaged his his car no when we were together he didn't have a car okay if he had a car would you have damaged it I probably would
00:50:55
Ayra Blakehave stolen it before I would have damaged it only because in that phase of my life like everything that was his was ours and if he wasn't mine it's still mine so yeah
00:51:10
Ayra Blakeuh everything that was his was ours ours so if he had a car it was our car and if he didn't want me it was my car I would have like when he left stuff
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Ayra Blakewith me it was mine that's why I gave his stuff away that's why I live his stuff on fire yeah I would if he had a car and we were together I would have taken his car c would not have been able to go see other girls in that car I
00:51:35
Brian Atlaswould have had the car you know what's crazy to me about this conversation is if there was a man sitting where you're sitting telling us the exact same [ __ ] but like flip the
00:51:47
Brian Atlasgenders uh the gravit toss of the situation would be like way different like girls are kind of like chuckling she's chuckling she's laughing about it not only if a
00:51:59
Brian Atlasguy was like revealing all the all these things but he was laughing as he did this guy would be like Public Enemy Number One yeah it's just kind of
00:52:10
Andrew Wilsoninteresting to me how that works um well he'd be on his ninth restraining order you know I mean his his picture would be plastered all over don't date this guy because he's a lunatic. comom right I
00:52:22
Andrew Wilsonmean he would have he would have everything on planet Earth going against him but you it's just like oh well you know I'm in a nice little picnic dress and you know I burned this guy's [ __ ] and handed all his stuff off to homeless
00:52:33
Ayra Blakepeople I'm nice I'm a real sweetheart I very much am a sweetheart as long as I'm not with him everything's good because being with him triggered so
00:52:44
Ayra Blakemuch of myself that I needed to learn it's his it's his fault hisult it's not it's not his fault it's my fault but it's also a good thing that it happened not for him of course but at least for me because I got to realize these sides
00:52:57
Ayra Blakeof myself that I wouldn't ever want to do again like I still look back and I know I just said a lot of crazy things but I miss that monkey that fat mon what I'm going to start saying in my wife I'm going to go in and be like you burn the roast and I'm going to smack the [ __ ]
00:53:10
Andrew Wilsonout of her and they going to be like it's your fault you bring out the worst in me I can't help it it's all you if you didn't bring my fingers wouldn't be bruised right now from decking you so
00:53:20
Ayra Blakemany times it but it's you you did it that's I mean does that sound reasonable to you or does that sound like I'd go to prison I was not 18 yet enough to do
00:53:32
Ayra Blakereal time so I was kind of in the green zone so that's did so you can get away were you was uh were did you go to like did
00:53:41
Brian Atlasyou catch case for any of this [ __ ] no I never got caught for none of this stuff like yeah how old are you um 20 well I mean you say that it's only
00:53:53
Ayra Blakewith this guy but have any of these behaviors manifested tested with other men no what's crazy is that I think now I'm realizing my karma every single guy
00:54:04
Ayra Blakethat I have like talked to or tried to be with after him have all been Psychopaths and all of my friends know if you're out there listening I literally have dealt with Psychopaths
00:54:15
Ayra Blakeconsistently after this and it's it's torn me even more to the point where now I don't know how to be in a relationship because at first I was like this crazy like wanting to beloved girl but now
00:54:28
Ayra Blakelike I'm dealing with people who are doing the same thing to me I actually it's making sense to me now that I have been living out my karma every person that I've talked to after him has been psycho they have done hurtful things and
00:54:40
Brian Atlassaid hurtful things to me sure anyways I do have to move it on perhaps we'll come back to that in a little bit uh preemptively we we were actually going to react to uh something actually somewhat
00:54:51
Brian Atlasrelated uh Nick Pull up The Daily Mail thing you want to pull up the video yeah the video actually let's get through we'll get through relationship status then we can do it afterwards what about
00:55:02
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)you relationship status uh single and celibate how long have you been single I would say eight months how long have you been celibate um since we broke up eight
00:55:14
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)months ago longest relationship about three and a half years was that the one that ended that one was 3 years the one before that uh was 3 and A2 so they're
00:55:23
Brian Atlasthey're all all around three and 1/2 years married no kids no okay uh and so longest relationship 3.5 years
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Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)um and when you say you're celibate are you now like waiting until marriage or something or no just when I'm single I don't really I don't hook up it's just not me I I kind of try to put myself out
00:55:46
Forever Untamed (Iranian woman, 40)there to date and I downloaded the dating apps went out a couple times just to put myself out there okay but no all right what about you I'm seeing single