02:49:31Andrew Wilsonpursuance of career so the askings here is like I smoke cigarettes my 5-year-old my 5-year-old comes to me the 5-year-old comes to me and says Dad you smoke you
02:49:43Andrew Wilsonhave you have no business telling me I can't smoking and me comparing it to being something is different why what's the difference that you're making an argument from hypocrisy yes you can't
02:49:55Niatell them this because it would make sex work okay I wouldn't judge my child if they want to do it but it better yes I said before I said yes it would be better but if they wanted to do it I
02:50:06Niawouldn't then you would tell them to do the thing that wasn't better I'm yes I know but I'm saying I wouldn't yes it would be better so how do you want what's best it would be better
02:50:19Andrew Wilsonit would but supporting what they want so wait wait hang on I want what's best for you okay okay but you're the deciding vote I'm not asking you to do any of that nobody asked you to do any of that you're just the deciding vote
02:50:31Andrew Wilsonyou can just based on your advice at this critical moment right right now when they say Mom I'm going to do this I'm going to make a lot of money and you even foresee hey she's a beautiful girl she can probably make a lot of money
02:50:43Andrew Wilsonright you're the decider your advice at this critical moment of saying don't do this this she won't do it but if you say go ahead and do it she will do it if hang on hang on let me finish the question if you say it would be better
02:50:56Andrew Wilsonif you're not in sex work and you say I want what's best for you then how would you not say not to do it that's what I don't get I would say that's like no like cuz it would be best for them but
02:51:07Niaif they did do it I wouldn't be mad I wouldn't feel any way like they could do what they want but she would advise them not to yes okay got it would you advise them to smoke
02:51:19Niaif that kid did come and say mom I want to smoke how old are they 20 if they're 20 if they came to me and told me they wanted to smoke I would say
02:51:28Niayes if they're with me I Mama want to do heroin no mama want to do crack no
02:51:34Niawhy I mean I it's the train of logic why not it's completely is different than how so because it is because there's
02:51:46Andrew Wilsonnegative connotations on a person's life they do the thing right M and so we're looking at the negative outcomes and consequences of the thing that you're doing and so if you're looking at the negative outcome and consequences of being a sex worker right then we're
02:51:59Andrew Wilsonlooking at what's best this would be the same thing it's like crack cocaine right it's best that you don't smoke crack right it's not the same thing why how is that the same thing well we're making an analogy cocaine is completely these are
02:52:10Andrew Wilsonboth cups right but they're both cups they're hang on they're both hang on hang onop hang on they're both they're both cups right is this one made out of paper yes and is this one made out of glass mhm well then they're two
02:52:23Andrew Wilsondifferent things but we can still make an analogy right using the two hang on hang on we if I said if I was talking about the filling of the cups we could still make an analogy based on the cups even though they're not not the exact same cup because everything on planet
02:52:37Andrew WilsonEarth is different from everything else that's why we use analogies right okay so you're saying weed cigarettes are the same thing as heroin no I'm saying that the logic for what is best would be the same right so what is best for you so I'd say okay if I'm thinking best say okay don't smoke that's what's best for
02:52:50Andrew Wilsonyou say don't do sex work that's what's best for you the logic and tail me would be exactly the same what's best so when I say okay I want what's best for my kids then I'd be looking at the big picture of what is best so my advice I'm
02:53:03Andrew Wilsonnot saying oh if you started smoking Junior that's it you're done you're out of the will the out of here don't ever come back right but if I was the critical vote if they were going to do
02:53:14Andrew Wilsonit one way or the other based on what I said then my vote would be don't do it mhm right mhm that's what's best that's all I'm saying do that make
02:53:25Jwessense yeah yeah I feel like you you phrase your questions a certain way make it sound stupid and then you rephrase it and then agree with he's actually doing the total opposite what he's doing is he's trying to make it as simple as possible for you
02:53:39Jakeso that you can understand it and then he steal man your case and explains to you what you think and then he brings you to The Logical conclusion it's the ACT it's actually the opposite he could easily use sophistry to confuse you if he wanted to but he's making it as
02:53:52Andrew Wilsonsimple as possible and the reason I want to make sure is cuz I want to make sure you understand where I'm coming from so that's why I always repeat back what you say to me what you mean is X yeah that's what I mean okay now I know why haven't I felt that way this whole time then
02:54:05Andrew Wilsonbecause most people don't like the entailments of their positions which mean most people haven't really thought through what it is that they think about certain things and when you ask probing questions they don't like they can they can foresee that by answering the question it's going to
02:54:18Andrew Wilsonleave to an answer that they themselves don't like and so they become very resistant to answering the question because they know it's going to end up with uhoh this doesn't make any sense right yeah but I feel like for the
02:54:30Andrew Wilsonmost part we haven't really been resisting we've been like coming to an understanding you well no you haven't been evasive but um you haven't been evasive because like he says I'm very poignant with the questions right and I just that's why I steal man the position
02:54:43Andrew Wilsonjust want to make sure I know exactly where you're coming from you know what and by the way you're welcome to cross-exam and me too okay that's totally fine in fact I encourage it right that's that's how people get more consistent
02:54:55Andrew Wilsonviews okay you guys can ask us anything you want well not I mean not anything but within reason like within
02:55:04Jakereason ask Andrew anything wait Andrew and Ryan yeah Ryan Ryan Ryan how many girlfriends do you have how many girlfriends do I have or how many
02:55:14Jakegirlfriends have I had oh no do you have do you have I've got zero girlfriends what makes you think that Ryan over here had lots of girlfriends oh no reason
02:55:24Andrew Wilsondamn it Ryan you're through you think I'm run through like that no was a comment on there and I read it unbelievable what led you to ask that question skill that was very subtly
02:55:35Jwesdone very well done I just sorry I'm basing it off looks it's up basically I'm saying she's saying you're hot dude yeah she's like actually you're
02:55:46Andrew Wilsonnot a your number sorry thank you she doesn't find very many men physically attractive so boy you're I think it's the Australian accent y probably it's probably the
02:55:57Andrew WilsonACC and the eyes the Hazel the eyes what if I told what if what if I told you though that there's a country that you think exists not not going down that road not going down that
02:56:12Andrew Wilsonroad what if I told you see those pills what if I gave you that red pill and you knew the truth about a certain place a certain where they all had that accent oh my God yeah there's more of them fun
02:56:24Jakefact really somewhere somewhere I honestly I what Andrew is doing is he's engaging in typical what we'd call misinformation or disinformation where he espouses conspiracy theories about
02:56:35JakeAustralia not being real and honestly it's one of the most damaging things that's happened to
02:56:43Andrew WilsonAustralia I remember that bombing campaign oh my God now I feel terrible they they hit the port of Dar which was up north of Australia but unfortunately this is the thing and I'm sure didn't
02:56:55Jakethey carpet bomb the entire South no oh just the north you girls will be able to agree with me here that Andrew doesn't really have the emotional intelligence to actually engage with this sort of high level debate so we're probably
02:57:08Leahgoing to leave it off the table for this one I'm with Andre I don't even know what Australia is it triggers a certain yeah well this sort of triggers a certain trauma for me a trauma response I'm why don't you show him any
02:57:19Andrew WilsonAustralian currency show him any do you have a single Australian dollar on you Jake I think a single one Jake we need Pro this is yeah it's the sort of thing that you see in the dark corners of the
02:57:31Jakethis is where Andrew sort of operates the dark dark corners of the internet um not really in polite Society at all and you guys probably have realized this about Andrew by now he operates within a
02:57:42Jakeparadigm that's yeah yeah this is ridiculous I'm glad I found your soft thing piss you off so Australia do you hear this slander from
02:57:54Andrew Wilsonyour guest I'm never coming back here again this is ridiculous I did hear it uh disavow disavow
02:58:02Brian Atlasrebuke rebuke disavow all right welcome back everybody um so we have sing Single dollar single Australian dollar not at this not at this stage I I tend to uper
02:58:14Leahright on a high level hold I'll be right back actually J low key just use like a mon like a monopoly dollar and just like brought we would know I I listen I have my ways of
02:58:25Jakeverifying these dollars these supposed dollars I'm just saying have you ladies ever heard of an Aboriginal an
02:58:34TTS Readerindigenous who oh champagne pop $1,000 pop champ is Brian off getting bre Brian off getting burritos anyways a guy named Metro mat in the Discord
02:58:45Kaylabullied me into giving champagne show pop another one W thank you Noah we appreciate it brother
02:58:56Brian Atlassorry um so yeah guys dude Noah you're you're a Legend Noah you're a Legend dude you're dude Noah you're a you're a
02:59:05Jakefreaking a freaking Legend bro a freaking Legend bro Noah thank you man I just want to really quickly put this debate to bed once and for all yo met
02:59:17Jakethank you for the gift Andrew has been persistently online spreading these D honestly dangerous conspiracy theories that actually put me in physical Strang for
02:59:28Jakeyears and he's been asking and and the one pillar that that holds up his entire ideology I'm actually not okay the one pillar that holds up his entire ideology is about Australian dollars so here you
02:59:40Jakego show it to the camera this is English currency sir I thought that was Canadian that's not what is that yeah see it's Canadian she knows what what we've just seen we're now seeing an emotional response and there's
02:59:51Jakegoing to be much more fallacies coming out but what we've just seen is world viw and ideology of Andrew Wilson and generations of Wilson to come it just looks like it just looks like
03:00:02Kaylajust been destroyed I am not going to sit here and put up with this kind of pretty yeah he's pretty money American dollars are the ugliest I I would want to spend it
03:00:13Leahthis is what fake paper looks like really unb he print did that men will do anything honestly that in the library good catch can somebody grab that for
03:00:26Brian Atlasme you guys CH quit uh so really quick I'll show it
03:00:35Brian Atlashere I knew one of these 304s would R quit is that actually is that real chat yep and Andrew obviously rage quits the
03:00:46Brian Atlasstream when confronted with his uh Rage Quit Andrew Wilson I'm putting it in the title all right yo Noah thank you so much for the champagne pop uh let's see while while I
03:00:59Brian Atlasdo that um is Brian off getting burritos you know what dude I will not tolerate this burrito stuff yo metromat thank Metro
03:01:10TTS Readermat donated $200 no is based Discord is based let's spice up this panel Brian stay on the
03:01:19Brian Atlaspanel lad oh he misses you o that was hot holy dudeo that was a gnarly one when he says pop the Cherry but it's actually
03:01:30Brian Atlaschampagne okay uh let's see so what's everybody's uh body count going around the table just while I'm filling up the champagne here uh maybe Maddie you want
03:01:42Brian Atlasto help out a little bit I'm look for starting with
03:01:52KaylaCarly Carly my name is Kayla oh what scar me name every time I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry okay
03:02:03Kaylaa so I'm going to say I I think like 40 how much 40 okay all right what about
03:02:12Jwesyou I don't know like 21 now so definitely
03:02:21Jwes12 the micro count you count the micro pis that does not count the micro penis does not count
03:02:30Heatherthat definitely counts that counts even if poor guys like oh I feel anyways um like are we counting girls or no how about give us girl count guy count um
03:02:43Brian Atlaswith a guy count here here here hold on hold on scoot your mic to the edge of the table more more scoot it this way Edge Edge of the table there you go
03:02:53Heatherokay go ahead go ahead um okay so I with guys it's definitely six okay um and with girls it's over it's over 10 but I just like I don't even I don't think
03:03:06Heathercounting in my head and doing like the finger calculator type thing is it just I don't know I get drunk and then I do a lot of crazy with girls so I don't really remember okay right what about
03:03:18Brian Atlasyou it's the honesty I'm straight my body Count's like 10 okay like 11 maybe maybe 11 okay two not
03:03:26Brian Atlassharing okay between me and the man upstairs okay it's a better answer that one next time rock and roll uh all right
03:03:38Brian Atlasonce uh what's it called oh uh why don't we uh I think we all poured the champagne Noah want to thank you again uh cheers
03:03:56Brian Atlasno yeah thank you so much no I really appreciate all your support in tonight's stream and and uh other stream you know
03:04:03Brian Atlaswhat I'll tell I if we get one more champagne Pop I will send Madison down and get me a burrito and I will eat some
03:04:15Brian Atlasof it on stream can I have some of your burritos will no no very is that is that is that is that I will
03:04:24Heathereat hey wait what you know what I zoned out for a second what happened you don't you you don't you no she's piy and burritos are her favorite she I'll eat
03:04:36Brian Atlaspart of it on stream part of the burrito on stream oh my God I am a bit hungry's thing with burritos yeah Noah thank you Metro Matt thank you so much man
03:04:45Andrew Wilsoneveryone gets a burrito you you Geto I the best burritos I can prove that Jake is a I can actually prove it prove it I can
03:04:57Andrew Wilsonprove that Jake is not telling the truth okay very quickly on on the Australia okay I have been told the people who pretend to be Australians alcohol is poisonous to them
03:05:08Andrew WilsonJake all you have to do is take a drink of this alcohol right here to prove me wrong that was water guys no there was nothing in the cup bro in the cup wait
03:05:18Leahactually there anyway just one this compelling evidence can we go nothing you can't do it you can agree to disagree you can't do it bro I don't think he's Australian do matter you can't do it bro why are
03:05:30Jakeyou shaking bro's been sober for like eight years and do drink going to take one Sip and get so drunk this is like the JFK
03:05:42Andrew Wilsonassassination never get so he didn't take one drink and say really feels we don't know we don't know I just want to I just want to put in the record he did not take a drink he did not take the drink he did not take the drink Austin we have a couple things we got to react
03:05:54Brian Atlasto right we have did you by the way just double check the dating app is it is it clean it's clean I won all right let's uh let's do that then all right we have
03:06:05Brian AtlasHeather's dating app we're going to do dating app review all right next at the skate is this Tinder yeah I don't use it I I don't know what I'm doing here who wants to get drunk okay next
03:06:18Brian Atlasis okay next next and then wait go back one open to exploring I don't want children bad texter Sagittarius and is
03:06:30Heatherthere a bio or anything or do you have a bio yeah I just didn't know if you guys yeah I was I I didn't know talking come about oh let's go down to the nasty sewer real quick where I can um it's
03:06:43Heatherit's okay it's not even it's a repurposed sewer so it used perfect it used to be it used to be like a sewer but now it's like the water that goes through it is clean and stuff no
03:06:54Heatherway no way water's clean I wouldn't swim in it I'm just saying it's not like it's not like there's an empty wire spool down there and trash everywhere you know what maybe that's my vibe living life on the edge I like it it makes me feel like
03:07:07Andrew Wilsongood to be in the woods especially if it's like spray painted up that's not the woods that's a like a little piece of sewer that's near that's like under like an over it's my favorite goalie there's
03:07:19Heatherher you know what it's my favorite spot okay I don't want to hear favorite it's so pretty I just wouldn't go in the water the Rocks really pretty too fa enough and you would have a great
03:07:31Andrew Wilsontime down by that sewer I I I I I I promise you I I don't go and play around sewers you not like the woods that's not the woods going under a bridge that has
03:07:42Heatherthat has some Ivy not the wood that is not under a bridge it's in the middle of the wood sewage run off in the middle of the woods that's Insanity like what where I
03:07:54Heatherlive Washington I know I know how Woods work and unless you're living unless there's civilization there's no sewage yeah I mean there's I I don't even know I don't I don't want to speak out of my
03:08:07Brian Atlasass right now so I'm not going to just say stuff not knowing what's going on what the other reacts we have what are the other reacts we
03:08:15Brian Atlashave we had oh yeah we'll do Kayla's tweet the what what did you do what did you
03:08:25Brian Atlasdo yeah okay let's do uh the tweet and then that
03:08:34Brian Atlassite I wish I was born a man sometimes that was it that's the only tweet I just thought why CU you like want a helicopter what do you want no cuz I
03:08:44Kaylafeel like um for example just like most Industries are male run
03:08:54Kaylaand literally I I sent the exact same text message and my friend did about like interviewing some artist and they didn't reply to me but they
03:09:06Brian Atlasreplied to the other guy well what evidence do you have that that's because you're a woman well okay I don't have it's not like 100% true
03:09:15Kaylabut yeah it's just it's just like like I just feel like men automatically give men more like they're going to give
03:09:26Kaylathe same opportunity if they have the same like qualifications for things they're going to give it to a man because like they're side or like they automatically like respect a man or take them more
03:09:39Brian Atlasseriously well I mean there's been some studies on this and they found that men actually have an outgroup slight outgroup bias for women and women have a fairly large ingroup bias for other
03:09:50Brian Atlaswomen so I don't even know if that's true and then you have affirmative action that's witnessed in Academia and in corporations which gives women preferential treatment in hiring
03:10:02Brian Atlaspractices additionally most HR departments that are responsible for hiring are predominantly staffed by women so well is it true for example like when my friend wanted to start
03:10:14Kaylalearning how to DJ or like make music mhm um you're talking to these guys and then they tell you they want to help you like learn they'll teach you and then you show up and no they actually just
03:10:26Kaylawant to you yeah deal with that and it just sucks sad because they are lying and saying that they want yeah that's wrong they get your H up majority of the time but if I was a man and I said the exact same things then they wouldn't
03:10:38Kaylahave want to try to me then they would have actually been well they just wouldn't help you at all yeah they wouldn't do anything for you then I wouldn't have to like go through all this bull sh of like saying like oh you're going to teach me and like help
03:10:50Kaylame but and like feed me all these lies but really you just want to me yeah and it just sucks cuz like I just want to learn well I agree with you that it's
03:11:01Brian Atlaswrong for men to sort of have ulterior motives in the in these sort of situations and circumstances uh I think it'd be far better for them to just be upfront be like I don't want to teach you anything
03:11:12TTS Readercuz exactly I would appreciate that too like d Jo excellent panel tonight Jake Andrew
03:11:22TTS ReaderBrian don't know why but I want to build a cabin in the woods with you guys BTW last week girl said I used a slur against Japanese girls not my intention yeah that I know but you you just uh I
03:11:36Brian Atlasdon't think that was your intention either man and U you're all good dlan you were just using uh shorter shortening the character so you could fit the TTS but but we're not going to
03:11:49Brian Atlasbuild a cabin that together bro that's that's not that's for next season honestly that sounds like a great time to me well going back to your thing like you said that uh you wanted to get an
03:12:00Brian Atlasinterview with like a it was a singer or DJ or something an artist an artist um did this male friend of yours when you say interview was this going to be published somewhere yeah
03:12:11Brian Atlasokay and did you guys work for like a magazine or what was just a media outlet that you worked for the same Med Med Outlet we're working together you I'm going to be the interviewer wa you were working together yeah for their media
03:12:24Brian Atlasoutlet and so he reached out and they replied to him but not me but you both reached out yes well wouldn't it be sort of like for example if I get an email and like two people from the same company email me there's like a
03:12:37Kayladuplication there on their but I sent it earlier yeah what if he was just better wait so when you say you when you say he sent it earlier I sent it earlier or excuse me he
03:12:47Kaylareply so then he like a day or two and then he sent but what if you sent it via email both were both were on text
03:12:57Brian Atlasmessage oh text message okay so maybe he didn't even get to respond to the message I mean yeah it could be that I'm not sure if it's cuz
03:13:09Brian Atlasyou've got a that was just one I'm not sure you have a example I knew there was something but I always get confused by this so it's like something un favorable or something bad happens to a
03:13:19Brian Atlasperson who has this character trait whether it's race or sex or whatever and this bad thing must have happened because I'm a member of this race or
03:13:30Brian Atlasthis or I'm a woman because men don't do this but um so it's I'm always confused by this though you need actual evidence of like something that would Point
03:13:40Brian Atlastowards the reason this happened is because I'm a woman not just a bad thing happened to me I'm a woman it airo it
03:13:50Kaylahappened to me because I'm a woman one time me and my friend who run the the DJ Collective we were booked for a show and we're supposed to go in before the show
03:14:00Kaylastarts and security is like you're not a DJ you're a girl wow M and he was like yeah sex people say sexist things sure joking he was joking but like just to
03:14:12Brian Atlaseven say that is like hilarious up it's not hilar you know crazy you know what's crazy this one time me though what she wants to be taken seriously yeah I know I know I mean but
03:14:25Andrew Wilsonif it was if it was funny to you since the joke was made at your expense it wouldn't have been funny to everybody else that's that's how jokes work it's just like was he joking I think he said it was a joke afterwards after we showed like literally proof that so I would
03:14:37Andrew Wilsoneven take a different angle from Ryan right like I would even say I would go the other direction and be like yeah of course these guys just wanted to bang you of course they did right of course they're going to want to train other men how to do these things cuz they think that intrinsically they're going to be
03:14:50Andrew Wilsonbetter at doing these things than you are yeah and so yeah they just wanted to have sex with you to makes total sense to me I know it just sucks well I mean so so you're saying that you need
03:15:01Kaylamen no I don't need men well then why does it suck cuz I just want to be why can't you just find a chick to teach you it's more male dominated industry so you
03:15:12Andrew Wilsonneed men I don't it's circumstantial well I don't understand if you want to know this skill and Men gatekeep the skill and you want the skill then you need men right no we don't on our own we
03:15:25Andrew Wilsonjust look at them on YouTube it's just like why lie then you don't need men I don't need them then you didn't need to do any of this right well like it's easier to learn in real life versus like a YouTube video so then you need men I
03:15:36Andrew Wilsondon't need them who teaches you that in the YouTube video is it men no there's girls oh so you learn you only watch the female YouTube videos or oh my goodness gracious shut the up silento
03:15:49TTS Readerdonated $500 let's get this burrito party started W Discord W chat W whatever
03:15:59Brian Atlaspodcast this is half of a champagne Po in coordination with no no no no no no no no silent hero 500 more you triggered
03:16:09Andrew Wilsonyou triggered the shut the up message um which is means you got to mute someone's mic it uh doesn't uh yeah wait so shut the okay I'll
03:16:21TTS Readerallow it I'll no donated $500 other half of champagne pop right here all right Jake take a drink we'll allow go get Burritos To The Crucible
03:16:33Brian Atlascrew not one step back boys not one step back not one step back Noah thank you and then uh silence thank you man all
03:16:40Brian Atlasright I guess madd's off to go get me a burrito uh T yeah text you the order um or maybe do we send no we're send I
03:16:51Brian Atlasthink we send Morgan what no what is happening extra cream what the hell no bro uh yo thank you man appreciate it I I I wait is this it is a champagne pop
03:17:03Brian Atlascan I get another champ this is not burrito I actually have something to say about another one another one uh let's see what oh really quick
03:17:14Brian Atlaswhile we are doing that uh so I'll come back through this podcast Fair all right so offering these girls substances
03:17:25HeatherBrian they look really upset by it Noah
03:17:29HeatherI'm so mad I'm pretty upset I leave and go and do this I guess oh no what R
03:17:41Brian AtlasBrian re okay another one is going on over here I don't know that is tastes excuse that is that's
03:17:51Heatherdisgusting that's so hot can you do it again you know some people pay for those burps put it in a little jar for me so disgusting disgusting
03:18:03Heatheroh but I actually have something say just make my dick go soft what um like I have another reason for why I want to like try to be a man
03:18:13Heatherfor like at least one day wait cuz you want to hump a chick right cuz you want a hump a chick no are you sure that that's not what you're say I I want to I want to get I want to get just I
03:18:24Heatherwant to know what it feels like to get a oh my God okay but it doesn't need to be from a chick it could be from a dude too I don't care as long as I'm feeling exactly but if you were a man if you were a man you probably wouldn't
03:18:37Andrew Wilsonwant one from a dude there you go I feel like this is something that men and women think about like what it's like to be the opposite sex never thought about it for a second not mine is only because thought thought
03:18:49Andrew Wilsonof being mounted by a man is completely the opposite want peep I don't even know how women are attracted to men being being a dude is just awesome that's like honestly I have no idea okay
03:19:01Jordanwhat would you do if you like just woke up and you were become a nun okay so you wouldn't like shirt up and just look boring yeah of course you
03:19:12Jordanhave to you'd have to clean yourself exactly you'd investigate every would do that for Okay who wants more like
03:19:22Brian Atlaswiggle I have a question Kay you want you want little more you guys chance have applesauce yeah what the damn really how'd she know bro I don't
03:19:33Heatheractually L of ketchup really of ketchup have ketchup packets I have two ketchup packets ketchup yeah I guess at this point I'll settle for ketchup packets anybody else yes please no I'm fine
03:19:45Brian Atlasshe's got it she don't help her oh don't help her I'm busy you don't need no man you could she's a strong independent strong
03:19:55Brian Atlasindependent woman Taiwanese woman she doesn't need a man go let's anybody else
03:20:03Brian Atlasare we good I think everybody all right cheers to silent hero and Noah R Salo salute salute some oh he's drinking from
03:20:15Productionthe bottle oh wow he's chugging oh there's a lot in there sh oh my God it went it went I'll finish it little bit of fist
03:20:26Productionoh wait okay I'll that's what it's like being a woman that's it's like try so hard to be
03:20:35Heathernow nutritious I have a in the freaking fridge at home I also wish
03:20:43Brian Atlasthat uh I'm waiting for Kayla to until we do some more reacts but uh let's see oh you had a question on a real note was there a snack like a little baby I think
03:20:55Brian Atlasthere's some chips back there no snacks for you yeah I'm getting a little bit Munchies so I'll wait till we're word all right so couple questions here oh
03:21:07Brian Atlaswait actually hold on I we didn't really fully cuz I was asking you if uh you
03:21:14Brian Atlassaid boyfriends should be providers yes should girlfriends not do only fans um should they
03:21:26Brian Atlasnot yes I feel like it depends on the guy okay but I don't see a problem I'll open I'll open it up to the panel should
03:21:37Brian Atlasshould men be providers I think you said yes or boyfriends should be providers should girlfriends not do only fans I agree with her I think it should be up to the relationship okay yeah I think it should be up to the relationship with
03:21:49Andrew Wilsonboth but but why are so you guys are able to say men should do this but why can't you say but but when it comes to females responsibility but even you even you would have to say that you have
03:22:01Heatherstandards for how men need to to behave I I honestly uh am not the brightest I
03:22:09Heatherlet I let I do provider if he's nice and he loves me I have issues why do you think I need to stay single I need to stay single cuz I
03:22:20Andrew Wilsonyou going to date a guy who sucks off horses okay you got me there you did get me there do we have any do we have any standards for where we start here or I there is a Ste that come from so so so
03:22:32Heatherour standard is heroin okay sucking off horses one bridge too far I don't know I don't I'd prefer he didn't do that but
03:22:40Heatherlike I don't know not the thing not for no I would if no no no that deserves jail that deserves jail what if he only
03:22:51Heathersucked off what if he only sucked off one horse oh it's only one no that's like is can I not say that any well anyways so it's it's bad okay so it's
03:23:04Jwesnot the same as here should should should boyfriends be providers just trying to establish some standard yeah I you found one should girlfriends not two only fans think
03:23:16Jwesshe's figuring that out okay okay hear me out so I think that if you you meet a woman and she has an only fans you guys can start dating and then once you get to a secure spot the woman should not have an only fans I'll come back to that but okay
03:23:29Brian Atlasshould men be providers yes should women not do only fans or sorry excuse me what girlfriends I keep messing it up should girlfriends not do only
03:23:42Kaylafans um if you start dating them and they already have only fans it's kind of like weird to expect them to stop when you knew they were already doing
03:23:53Brian Atlasthat but if you were you started dating and then they started making only fans while you were were dating I think that's they this whole this whole thing about so you just repeat it again so if
03:24:04Brian Atlasif she was already doing only fans like he should know that going in right yeah yeah but like I could just say the same thing about like you guys making your should claims about boyfriends being
03:24:15Brian Atlasproviders well you know if he's like a 50/50 guy well you know you go you know that going in but you guys are making should claims you guys are saying men should do this and so I'm essentially
03:24:27Jwestrying to point out should then women not be involved in sex work correspondingly you're you're wording the question one way you didn't say
03:24:37Brian Atlas50/50 I also think that that's okay like a 50/50 no no no but you said men should because you question like that and I said no well yeah but it's sort of the
03:24:47Brian Atlassame because you could be like no men men shouldn't have to be that they can be 50/50 okay then that's and I would date and in fact I would date let me let me just have a bit of a back and forth
03:24:58Brian Atlashere sure and so my confusion around this whole thing is that even though you guys you're involved in sex work it's very non-traditional very modern woman you have these traditional expectations
03:25:11Brian Atlasof men men should be providers men should be shival but y'all are not like traditional traditional women I see what you're say you don't dress traditionally you don't have a
03:25:23Brian Atlastraditional demeanor see maybe uh you involved in sex work it's not traditional so you y'all should be like okay I'll I'll be
03:25:34Brian Atlasthe provider or at least I'll be 50/50 with the dude but you still you still want men to be traditional that's where I'm confused like all these non-traditional women y'all still demand
03:25:46Brian Atlasanything doesn't even have to be o girls you can be an O uh like a normal girl but still not be a traditional woman you could be masculine you could have all kinds of feminist brainwashing all that
03:25:56Brian Atlasbut again my confusion is y'all are non-traditional the way you dress the sex work but I want my man to be a gentleman and chelus and all this stuff
03:26:07Heathermhm I'm confused explain well I want the I I don't know I don't expect anything traditional from my man I I just want him to be like the bare minimum of being a good person but I
03:26:20Heatherjust because I do what I do for work doesn't mean I'm a bad person or like exactly so like although I don't think all women think the way obviously that you're saying right now like wait I went around the table and every woman here
03:26:32Brian Atlassaid men should or excuse me boyfriends should be providers I don't think you remember what I said he actually didn't ask past her no I I asked her I asked her maybe you might have been up so I went to her and her and they all said
03:26:45Heatheryes so what's your answer to the the question then I I just think that it it depends on the relationship but you should it like if you both decide hey I make more money I want to be the
03:26:56Heatherprovider then you know like it it shouldn't just be like oh the man provides and he has to provide it's like if he ends up providing that's what you guys agreed on but like if she ends up
03:27:07Heatherproviding cuz that's what's better for like you guys perfect I don't know I just think that it doesn't really matter there shouldn't be like a set person doing something specific like whatever you guys decide
03:27:19Heatherfind a middleman like me in the middle uh what's the word okay so you go on the first day with a guy you you're fine 50/50 yeah or even I usually pay I always try to pay so that I can let them I don't know it just well I'll go ahead
03:27:32Brian Atlasand remove you from the conversation because you don't have contention with my point exact so going to you you you and you women and I mean you don't do only fans so you're not really part of
03:27:43Brian Atlasthe conversation really uh again should girlfriends not do only
03:27:54Niafans I don't think that they should but why would a man even message or whatever be interested in a girl that already does it like who
03:28:06Niadoesn't want to like they want well they want to have sex with you I don't care they're no I'm talking about like a relationship though and providing like they're well they're okay so then why would you message a girl knowing she
03:28:18Brian Atlasdoes it if you're not going to want to there is men out there who would provide for girls who do it yeah so here's the thing I will conc to yes you're 100%
03:28:28Brian Atlasright there are simps and frankly pathetic men who despite a woman's refusal to bring her own traditional standard to the relationship
03:28:40Brian Atlasthese men know that these women have a traditional expectation on men women know that despite how modern they themselves are how non-traditional they themselves are they
03:28:51Brian Atlascan still demand men to be traditional and so I acknowledge this what I'm pointing out is more so I don't
03:29:01Brian Atlasthink that that's one fair for the man I think he's a s if he does it and I don't think women who are non-traditional deserve it so you can still get it there's plenty of simps out there
03:29:13Brian Atlasthere's plenty of guys who are desperate for desperate for a relationship desperate for anything who don't have any boundaries standards or preferences that's
03:29:23Brian Atlastrue but what I am saying is is that from your end I don't think it's reasonable I don't think it's fair that
03:29:33Brian Atlasyou have the expectation that men should be providers when in other words falling into their traditional gender roles when you're not following into your
03:29:44Niatraditional gender roles so how do you reconcile it I do get that I do understand that's it makes sense but like I said why would someone even come
03:29:54Niato me knowing I do that like why because they wouldn't if they didn't want to like you for example what do you mean like let's say
03:30:04Nialike why would somebody want to be with me knowing that I do that if they're not if they don't like it if they if it's untraditional well okay I've already I've already granted that despite what
03:30:16Brian Atlasyou do there are still going to be men who are going to S and spend all this money and still be providers despite your lack of traditional nature they're still going to do it right CU they still want to you they still want to get
03:30:28Brian Atlaswith you they've sort of accepted the new social order the New Order uh but what I'm pointing out is that I don't think that that's a fair
03:30:38Brian Atlasshake for men and I think it's in addition to that despite them accepting the unfairness from your perspective why do you demand
03:30:51Niatraditional treatment from men when you're not a traditional woman yourself well like I said earlier if my partner wanted me to stop I would that's not
03:31:02Niathat's not what I'm talking about though so what are you saying that I'm just not traditional so why do I want traditional I'm asking how you reconcile it like okay you're like here are my my
03:31:16Brian Atlasstandards for a man he has to give me shiverers traditional treatment right is that true like for example if a guy took you on a date and he was like you know two checks to the waiter and you had to
03:31:26Niapay for half of it would there be a second date no okay so you have this if he asked me on the date no there
03:31:36Brian Atlaswouldn't okay right but you do acknowledge that people will go on dates and often times it'll be the man who asks and they will end up spling the bill
03:31:47Brian Atlasright yeah it does happen yes it does right so I'm trying to understand like this gendered expectation that you have
03:31:57Niawell the way I was raised in my family my dad was a provider okay was your mom he taught
03:32:05Niame no but he the provider was she involved in sex work no okay he still provided and he taught me that my Partners should provide that's what what
03:32:17Brian Atlashold on wait so your dad's a traditional man yes he's a traditional man took care of the household and he taught you that so it's interesting women when they're
03:32:28Brian Atlasbeing raised they're told here's how men should treat you and boys are taught here's how you should treat women but
03:32:37Brian Atlasyou don't hear as much as much pressure on here's how women should treat men here's how women should conduct themselves I find that interesting but just because I do only fans doesn't mean
03:32:49Brian AtlasI'm treating a man wrong does your father know that you do only fans yes and he's okay with it yes he really he has no quarrel with it he's is he a
03:33:00Brian Atlasprovider yes do you are you he lives locally or yes do you live with him right now you live at home I just moved back here do you pay rent yes why they
03:33:10Brian Atlasneed to do sex work right now mhm you've got a roof over your head probably food right yes but I mean so he's totally cool with it yeah I mean he's a provider
03:33:24Andrew Wilsonbut I think I don't think any father should be okay with their daughter doing when you're doing um when you're doing this
03:33:32Andrew Wilsonright on on o there is a live chat right a live chat M yes yeah um my my one challenge that I always try to give to
03:33:43Andrew Wilsonuh a woman who's on only fans who says her father's okay with it is to remove themselves from the video right and just say hey Dad this is what my live chat is
03:33:54Andrew Wilsonread my live chat right only my live chat you can't see me right during one of my streams and then and then hang
03:34:05Andrew Wilsonon I I just would like to know if your Dad read just the live chat right a live chat of you doing one of your your streams if he would be for you doing
03:34:17Niaonly fans after that well my dad knows what only fans is he knows that's my question that's not my question if he read one of the live
03:34:26Andrew Wilsonchats about what goes on in the chat if he read one of your live chats mhm right just the live chat do you think that he
03:34:35Jakewould still be for it yeah cuz he already knows what it's about okay my parents are do Under
03:34:46Jakeyou make the content under his roof no where do you go I have a studio so yeah I'm going to ask a quick follow-up question so if there was say say I was a
03:34:56Jakeguy who was uh living in my parents basement didn't have a job was broke bit overweight little bit of a like couldn't really protect um and but I was sitting there saying that I deserve talk
03:35:08Jakeabout me bro but I was there saying that I deserve a woman who is going to cook for me clean for me have my children and do all these traditional feminine things but I can't do any pro protecting or
03:35:20Niaproviding would that be a reasonable thing to expect no but I'm not saying that there's nothing I can bring to the table I mean I actually understand your argument it's it's it's actually a
03:35:32Andrew Wilsonpretty good one the argument here is just like look um if I expect traditional treatment and a man's willing to give it to me right he's the one who's reaching out to me he
03:35:43Andrew Wilsonobviously clearly knows what it is that I do that's on him that seems reasonable to me yeah that seems totally reasonable to me um I look at this from a different
03:35:53Andrew Wilsonangle and get your guys' input on this the angle I look at it as is um from my perspective you just PE women who are on only fans and moving into sex work just kind of Whittle themselves out of the
03:36:05Andrew Wilsongene pool ultimately and what I mean by this is just this your selection sample size is going to be less than other women right so even if you're really really really pretty there's lots of
03:36:18Andrew Wilsonreally really really pretty women who don't do sex work so if you were a traditional man let's say um you were very staunchly Christian believed in Christian ethics this type of thing and
03:36:29Andrew Wilsonthen let's say you you kind of absorb some of the more red pill ideas of uh want to have a nice body and I also want to have a lot of money and this type of thing but I'm going to keep these kinds of like principled underpinnings to go
03:36:41Andrew Wilsonwith it seemingly according to the data that I've looked at women really like those types of men right really really like them but if you were one of those
03:36:50Andrew Wilsontypes of men why would they ever Choose You Well if the available uh kind of pool that they can choose from is you minus the sex work wouldn't they go for
03:37:05Andrew Wilsonthat yeah yeah so from so from kind of judgment yeah so kind of from my perspective it's like it seems like you're you're setting your feet on fire to warm up your hand
03:37:16Heatherright it's like it just seems so silly to me I I I actually don't really understand it that I just never want to rely on anyone to provide for me or take care of me I want them to want to but I also don't really care I think that I
03:37:29Heathercan take care of myself and I you know what I I don't really care about a man who like provides for me and I don't expect that or you know it's really funny because in the role of traditional and when I think traditional I think
03:37:42Andrew WilsonChristian Foundation Christian ethics that's for me is what tradition means if I got really sick my dad got really sick he had multiple sclerosis my mom took care of him for 25 years dang I would like to think that if I got really
03:37:54Andrew Wilsonsick my wife would take good care of me I hope so right I'd like to really think that she would cuz she would right she just would um so when this idea comes up of like I don't need no I wouldn't feel any Shame by that yeah but I'm not I'm
03:38:07Heathernot talking about that I mean just MoneyWise like if I'm like if I need help I would absolutely ask for help but I just want to be able to provide for myself MoneyWise in all situations especially if my significant other I
03:38:19Andrew Wilsontoally I totally understand I'm not even not even kind of beating you up on that what I'm saying is is that if if the kind of like underlying idea here is I
03:38:30Andrew Wilsonwant man who has these qualities yeah right he's Dependable he's emotionally stable he has a really good ethical foundation and he works really hard on
03:38:41Andrew Wilsonhimself right and all of that is going to be kind of put to you you you get to have access to that right but he also has a selection now right he has a selection and he can choose from the
03:38:54Heathermultitudes of the beautiful women who are available why would he choose the one that did Sex work yeah and I honestly if he does if that's not what he's into then he absolutely shouldn't and he shouldn't feel like he has to so
03:39:06Andrew Wilsonwhen Brian asked this question traditional behavior for traditional Behavior what he's really asking you is like if the expectation is I would really like to have a guy who's like
03:39:16Andrew Wilsonthat it seems like you're shooting yourself in the foot to get that guy because his selection size is much larger right that just kind of stands to
03:39:26Andrew Wilsonreason right I guess I'm just glad really funny is that every almost every girl who on only fans right even the bored ones like her almost all of them say the same thing which is that they're
03:39:39Andrew Wilsongoing to get they're going to get that guy that guy is for them and they are going to get him and then you fast forward 20 years right at least from all
03:39:50Andrew Wilsonthe women I've talked to they don't they don't get them w w you can say w w literally I mean maybe at 40 you'll go
03:40:03Andrew Wilsonback and ret toilet paper your dad's house I don't know but the rest of us for the rest of us who live in reality right the reality is is that really high status men don't want to date I'm
03:40:13Heatherreally glad I don't live like I'm living in a really happy little reality where there's no judgment I don't give a ho or a holler or think about that stuff cuz if I find the guy that I want I'm going to figure it out
03:40:26Jakeand he's not the guy for me if he cares about my job especially young ladies who come on this podcast is that they're saying yeah but I'm happy that's because you're young and you're in a stage where you're in your most attractive years and you'll get guys who will just s for you
03:40:39Jakeso you've got guys sing for you all day long on the internet then you're it's going to boost your s you know what the rates are lesbian divorce um I don't want to get married very high I want to live the rest of my life happy with
03:40:51Heathersomeone I don't need to get legally married to live the rest of my life happy with let's just say it's common law it's the same thing just just you cohabitate you know for me to find a man that is okay with me not legally marrying marrying them like I feel like
03:41:03Heatherthat's just they would all be okay with that it's like the biggest risk factor for men really yeah the biggest risk factor for every man every straight man I've ever been with which is the first two boyfriends I had um they were not
03:41:16Andrew Wilsoncool with me not wanting to get legally married and I don't know I I don't know I just I but did you say Okay we don't have to be legally married but I'm going to be exclusive with you forever and
03:41:27Heatherhave kids yeah that's a whole different I mean I'm not having biological kids why cuz I hate babies I really really don't like I love other people's
03:41:38Heatherbabies but to have a baby I don't think I'm like I I don't think I have enough uh patience for for that she's self-aware so you want to adopt adult
03:41:49Heatherkids no I like I I grew up my whole life raising my little siblings and but she said she didn't want to have biological kids yeah like babies I don't want a baby I want like a toddler or like two
03:42:01Heatheryou hate babies yeah that was pretty harsh I don't know I just kind of said that so that you guys could be like this only fans girl hates babies you know that's going to be a really good thumbnail do you do you do you think
03:42:13Heatherthat you have babies or do you think you hates babies um no actually I want to when I do decide to have a kid I'm going to adopt a kid and then I'm going to like
03:42:23Heatherlive out where I'm not saying where but I'm going to move and we're just going to it's going to be me and them against the world and we're just going to travel going to adopt a few kids move into the woods and just go for it is there going
03:42:35Heatherto be a sewage absolutely there is going to be so much sewage all around me dude I love trash come on ah one of those
03:42:47Brian Atlashouseholds I guess going to the traditional thing it's like so many women have like completely abandoned abandoned and cast
03:42:57Brian Atlasaside any any and all traditional uh gender roles yet with the almost utmost entitlement still expect men to adhere to their traditional gender rules you
03:43:10Brian Atlasstill want a masculine guy you still want somebody to protect you you still want a provider but I want to be a non-s submissive dominant modern boss babe woman who wants to do sex work and go to
03:43:22Brian Atlasthe club and dress promiscuous and dress revealing I think that that did you just say yes as in like you you're like hell yeah I agree or you acknowledge
03:43:35Jakethe that's that's what she wants or is that what you want yeah I explained what I want basically what described is what she wants yes yes but so it's like
03:43:47Brian Atlasyou demand all the Privileges and benefits of liberalized society while still demanding that men take on all the burdens of traditional Society you
03:43:58Andrew Wilsondisagree or no I just I just see her making faces she's so bored oh it's so terrible all the attention's not focused on her for 5 seconds terrible yo y'all just keep putting words in our mouth
03:44:10JwesJesus wait what words am I I'm this said we want all the attention on us what pointing out the reality of us how did you get included how did you get included in this here I got invited yeah but how did you get included in the in
03:44:22Andrew Wilsonthe know you're on the podcast yeah but but but how did you get included with the the criticism that us could you just assume that she was wanting all attention on right now not you she she does no she doesn't we see this over and
03:44:35Jakeover and over and over again on this podcast when the attention goes off them for a minute they all start and starts slouching over even though arguably she got the most attention of any girl here
03:44:46KaylaI'm what what you guys talking about it might be I might be slouching cuz we've been on stream for almost 4 hours did you guys think of that what's the longest only fan stream you've ever done oh I haven't done an only fan stream
03:44:58Andrew Wilsonalmost four no wow I've never done a stream on only fans the first I thought I'm sorry what type of sex Works do you do just
03:45:07JwesSolo solo what solo custom I don't know how long has that watching but we're not that hard it always takes 5es minutes yeah I mean yeah well this this is also
03:45:19Brian Atlasthis is also especially EAS come easy go yeah this is also especially rude given that uh Nia over here when we're actually trying to engage with her she's actually spoken the least of any
03:45:31Kaylapanelist yeah so why' you interrupt and say that you guys could have kept conv making faces at the camera and being obnoxious yeah okay so we were just trying to be nice and like let the other