Single Mom Wants 6ft Man Who Makes $500k?! She INSULTS Brian?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #166

Date: 2024-06-03
Duration: 6h 53m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson (virtual)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Natalia Chesty(guest)
SPEAKER_04Natalie (partial)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Q (The Q Pill)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Erica(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ellie/Vera (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Angel(guest)
SPEAKER_13Light Brigh (partial)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:54
QuoteNatalia Chesty criticizes Brian for not greeting guests

Natalia says: 'I wouldn't date him because I didn't like his character — he didn't say hi to all of us.' Brian responds he was busy setting up the show.

00:12:00
OtherBoss Lady's rap song played and reacted to

Brian plays Boss Lady's rap song 'Touch Your Toes With It' from Instagram (~30 seconds); Boss Lady explains the lyrics ('touch your toes = bend over/twerk'). Panel reacts. Discussion of her music career as rapper from Watts.

00:34:30
QuoteVera's ex transitioned during their relationship

Vera discloses her 3-year relationship: ex began wearing skirts, identifying as femboy, going after men. He was unemployed; she paid all bills. She ended the relationship; he now lives in Wisconsin with a fiancee who 'hexes Furbies.'

01:04:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Natalia's complaint 'spoiled brat behavior'

Andrew Wilson (virtual) tells Natalia: 'What I call that is spoiled brat behavior... you want everything to stop so people can acknowledge how wonderful you are.' Natalia responds. Extended 10-minute debate.

01:17:45
QuoteNatalia's mother passed from COVID; boyfriend ghosted two weeks later

Natalia shares: boyfriend of 2 years ghosted her while her mother was dying of COVID, then two weeks later posted on Facebook with a new engaged girlfriend. Panel debates whether this is 'trauma' per clinical definition.

03:54:20
ControversyAndrew debates Erica on cuck relationships and self-respect

Andrew tells Erica directly: 'No self-respecting man who loves their woman would allow their chick to be plowed by other dudes.' Erica explains the context of her 10-year relationship and her motivations.

03:55:03
OtherErica discloses rape by son's biological father

Erica (37) discloses: 'My son's father raped me and tried to kill me.' States he has never been in her son's life and she ran away. Andrew responds with empathy and then redirects the conversation.

04:53:56
QuoteVera states $500k income requirement

Vera (25, NYC, 3 kids, escort): 'Annually, $500k.' Brian responds: 'You realize that's 1%?' Debate ensues with Brian, Q, and later Andrew Wilson.

04:55:05
Key MomentBrian questions Vera's unrealistic standards

Brian: 'Do you think a guy who makes $500,000 minimum is interested in dating a sex worker/escort with three children?' Vera: 'No... definitely not... but shouldn't you adjust your standards?' — 'I don't want to be with somebody [who doesn't meet them].'

04:56:38
QuoteAndrew cites IRS data on $500k earners

Andrew Wilson: 'According to the Internal Revenue Service, less than 1% of all tax filers reported an adjusted gross income exceeding $500,000.' Vera: 'Well that’s on them.'

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Guest introductions and announcements

Vigil for 'Blessed/Weed Jesus' (community member who passed away). All guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Followed by pronoun/identity questions, content type, and escorting background questions.

00:22:20
Relationship status and background

Round-robin: single/situationship/relationship status, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dive into Vera's ex transitioning, Angel's ex not contributing, Natalia's thruple, Erica's 10-year relationship.

01:03:00
Brian not greeting guests / Natalia insults Brian

Natalia Chesty says she wouldn't date Brian because he didn't greet guests on arrival. Brian and Natalia debate whether this was rude. Panel takes sides. Continued with Andrew Wilson at ~178-185min where Andrew calls it 'spoiled brat behavior.'

01:16:00
Trauma discussion

Natalia shares breakup/ghosting story tied to mother's COVID death. Q and others debate clinical definition of trauma vs. emotional damage. Erica shares childhood trauma from witnessing loud aggressive men. Distinction between heartbreak and trauma.

01:16:00
Racial preferences in dating

Chat question about racial dating preferences. Responses: Angel: no preference; Erica: Latinos; others: no preference or white boys. Separate chat question about why Black women and Asian men are statistically least desired in dating marketplace.

01:36:00
Train wrecks / bad date stories

Guests share past relationship train wrecks and bad dates. Includes Erica's ex-boyfriend ending 10-year relationship via text; Vera's 3-year thruple with an engaged lesbian couple.

02:52:00
Andrew Wilson joins / insults response

Andrew Wilson joins virtually (~172min). Brian summarizes panelists. Andrew debates Natalia on greeting/entitlement topic, calling her behavior 'spoiled brat.' Natalia defends position. Q and Erica moderate.

03:24:00
Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS prompts everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Back-and-forth on objectivity of beauty ratings vs. subjective self-perception. Andrew and Brian gave lower ratings (4 and 5 respectively). Two guests claimed 10. Discussion of aging and whether women are better looking at 30+ vs now.

03:58:00
Tweet reactions

Brian pulls up tweets for panel reaction: 'men these days want to be pampered for doing the bare minimum,' 'if you're going to DM me wanting to be my man, pay my bills,' and others. Leads into greater male variability theory (IQ distribution curves), hypergamy, and biology discussions.

04:10:00
Body count round

Captain Army $200 TTS asks body counts. Angel ~60, Vera 16, unknown 44, Erica 13 men+17 women+100+ total (including non-consensual). Natalia: no comment. Erica discloses rape by son's father. Discussion of whether body count disqualifies marriage potential.

04:36:00
Democracy and voting rights debate

Andrew Wilson and SPEAKER_05 (Tara, Canadian) debate democracy, voting age, whether women should vote, and government effectiveness. Tara defends universal suffrage; Andrew challenges justification for democracy over monarchy.

04:53:20
Single mom 500k debate

Vera states she requires partner earning $500k/year and 6ft+ height. Brian, Q, and Andrew debate feasibility (IRS data: <1% earn $500k). Vera reduces to $300k. Race preference: Latino. Discussion of what a $500k man would actually expect from a partner. Vera insists such men exist who won't care about her past.

05:44:00
Hypergamy, makeup, and beauty standards debate

Extended debate between Andrew Wilson and SPEAKER_05 (Tara/Light Brigh) on hypergamy origins, makeup as deceptive (Brian: 'makeup is functional equivalent of a McDonald's worker claiming to be a lawyer'), evolutionary basis of attraction. Andrew and Erica debate historical beauty standards and hygiene.

Transcript

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03:48:15
Ericayourself but I'm not going to let you self- project from within outward towards me because what I've been doing for 37 years actually works and my children are flourishing in life not
03:48:27
Ericadegenerate yes wait so what have you been doing for 37 years like when you were like oneyear old you were like making potions and [ __ ] no I'm just saying like I've my life is working for me so you control all you want like I
03:48:39
Ericadon't feel bad for the experiences that I've I've had in life was I submissive and gave a man everything he want with his darkest fantasies yes I was did my
03:48:51
Ericachildren know about it not necessarily they didn't know about all of it because they don't need to know about it because they're not ready for that debauchery word okay let's do I mean this kind of
03:49:01
Ericasounds like they maybe flourished in spite of you no definitely not my son looks up to me and he decided to graduate high school a whole year early so he can be a marine because he has
03:49:13
Andrew Wilson (virtual)seen the strug that I have gone through and he's like Mom I just want to help you out and I'm like I wish him Lu in the Marine Corps that's a that's a tough path I'm sure he'll do well in it yeah he took the but I got I got to tell you
03:49:26
Andrew Wilson (virtual)uh he's probably going to get rib pretty hard once people find out that that Mom was with a [ __ ] right that's not going to do him any any Services I think so I don't think he will actually I think
03:49:37
Ericathat if if that if it comes down to that I think that he's going to see that I provided for my children the best knew how I came from a stripper so do I respect stripping no offense I don't
03:49:50
Andrew Wilson (virtual)because I didn't respect my mother as a stripper so my grandmother my grandmother my mom's side was a prostitute who was murdered a good song I just I don't my grandmother my
03:50:00
Andrew Wilson (virtual)mother's side was a prostitute who was murdered and for some reason my my mother had no ambition to become uh
03:50:11
Andrew Wilson (virtual)hooked up with some kind of [ __ ] okay so you using this kind of cope of you came from a stripper it's irrelevant doesn't matter where you came from matters what
03:50:20
Ericayou do right but IO were you dating bivo bivo no no okay just checking do I believe that he was traumatized as a child and that's why he is the way he is
03:50:32
Ericatoday yes I do a matter of fact I know he was abused as a child I just want to say damn that's heavy bro I just want to say it sounds
03:50:44
Natalia Chestylike your son loves you a lot and respects you I can just I can just tell by I can just tell and the fact that he went off to the Marine Corps congratulations I'm very happy for you just want to ask I'm very my my biggest achievement in this world are my kids
03:50:56
Ericathe one that I took in and helped raise she actually just moved out of the house she's almost 21 she's in the Army and she's about to get married so that's beautiful no I don't know
03:51:08
Brian Atlaswhat's happen no that's beautiful I was I did a good I I was a good Mom that's all that matters anyways moving on we got some tweets to react to Nick can you get the
03:51:18
Andrew Wilson (virtual)tweets going get the tweets wait how the [ __ ] were you a good mom you were you were out groming chicks so that your dude could plow them you were literally out grooming chicks and bribing them so
03:51:29
Andrew Wilson (virtual)your dude could plow them grooming chicks there was no grooming these these chicks wanted him as much as they wanted me yeah but you were sent out my children didn't to find them specifically so that your dude could
03:51:42
Andrew Wilson (virtual)plow them and he ended up breaking up with you because you wouldn't [ __ ] other dudes how's that being good that's not good that's the opposite children again don't know about
03:51:51
Ericait yeah but that how does that make it better why does that make it better because what happens behind the closed doors of a bedroom the children don't need to know because they don't need to understand debauchery at that at those
03:52:02
Andrew Wilson (virtual)ages yeah that's the same type of [ __ ] that you hear from every only fans prostitute who exists that their children will always forgive their past because after all they'll be driving a Bugatti so they they're not going to care
03:52:15
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that Mom got stuffed on camera they're not going to care about that at all they do care they do care I don't know where he get this idea they don't care they do they don't know so they can't care they do now they know now they don't actually
03:52:27
Ericayet they will yet but they will eventually find out like my kids will find out what I do and I will have I will have to hurdle that um bunk in the road when it comes to that when it comes
03:52:37
Ericato that day but as of right now I don't need to because he didn't get to cuck me he told me he wanted it and I didn't do it so that's all that matters yeah I know but you didn't end the relationship when he said he wanted to do that he had
03:52:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)to end it with you no you know what my problem was was I tried to change him yeah so so again you did not end the relationship with a man wanted to share you but I was already in love so I was
03:53:02
Andrew Wilson (virtual)trying to change a man that I fell in love it's excuse that you have no self-control because of the the chemical bonds of love you sto self-control you knew what was going on I didn't know
03:53:14
Ericaabout that until far into the relationship I was okay with the women he evolved sexually well did you think he was just going to stop I was hoping he would I was hoping I would have been the last
03:53:27
Ericagirl he would ever wanted to try I was hoping he would give me a ring and marry me but no I dedicated 10 years of my life I wasted 10 years of my youth in my 20 I mean it doesn't sound like that's
03:53:40
Ericaon him I mean you were participa I'm not saying it's on him by no means if I have I ever blamed him I I was willing to try certain things but when I wasn't willing
03:53:50
Andrew Wilson (virtual)anymore he left me well let me just ask one last thing right do you have a sense of Pride and self-respect why would you
03:53:59
Ericado that I do have a pride in because I saw how much he loved me in a sense at least that's what I I told myself that he loved me I I saw that his heart was
03:54:11
Ericalike or his eyes were just like filled his C was being filled and I was able to do these things knowing that I was capable of making a man happy because I already make myself happy he I don't
03:54:22
Ericaneed him I wanted him there's a big difference I don't need a man in my life I want a man in my life then why did you stay for 10 years because I you said that you needed a man in your life to be
03:54:34
Ericaa masculine role model for your son those were your exact words well yeah I needed I need men I I have more than just him in my son's life though I have very influential men that are in my son's life yeah but that's not what you
03:54:46
Andrew Wilson (virtual)said you said that you were with him because he was a masculine role model for your son in his life yeah that was part of the adoption thing so you do need a man in your life by your own admission I need a man in my children's
03:54:58
Ericalife that so he would just wouldn't be in your life he would be I feel like if I well he's technically let's see he even though he broke up with me he's
03:55:07
Andrew Wilson (virtual)still being a positive role model for the children and is what about their dad what do they what does he have to say about all this so my son's father raped
03:55:17
Andrew Wilson (virtual)me and tried to kill me let's go let's just put that there sorry I know we're not supposed to say it but you want the honest truth yeah I mean you could have just coded the language sorry but uh
03:55:28
Andrew Wilson (virtual)yeah I understand so that that's hor horrific he took advantage of me and uh but the thing the thing is is what I'm asking you though is like is this guy
03:55:37
Andrew Wilson (virtual)anywhere around in your kids lives who my son's father yeah no no no did so he just he when you guys ended it it was
03:55:47
Ericajust checked out for good or oh no when he tried to kill me I ran away he's never seen us he is not in my son's life at all my son doesn't even okay no I ex
03:55:58
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that out yeah I understand that there's extenda circumstances but I just want to know um because you did say that you needed a positive male influence so course I can't teach a boy how to be a
03:56:08
Ericabiological father that would make logical sense right no woman can teach a boy how to be a man do you think a woman neither a cuck can't teach a boy how to be a man either just because of what you
03:56:20
Andrew Wilson (virtual)like sexually behind closed doors does that does not make a bad no man has self-respect at all if they're willing to allow their chick to get plowed by other dudes it's not even
03:56:33
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)possible he's respectfully speak think that's if a man loves you he would not do that to you you got to that's why we're not together anymore that's why I'm not being with yeah but he not trying to say that in a rude way he's just letting you know that like from
03:56:45
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)here on out now you know if a man really love you he wouldn't do that to you it's not to make you feel bad or anything he's just telling you in a respectful way if a man really love you that's not love it's not an irr even if you settle to do what you want to do for a man to please him that's not love on your end
03:56:59
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that's what I was trying to tell you previously it's it's what you respect and did I love him heart she's absolutely right no self-respecting man ever who loves their woman would ever
03:57:10
Natalia Chestyshare her with anybody tell you what you deserve right that's it it's facts it's facts it's facts wait I'm sorry one last question do you think um a woman doesn't
03:57:22
Natalia Chestyneed a man in general girl she's talking about her son I'm asking her I'm asking her though like do you cuz you said like oh I don't need him um which is cool but I'm just saying do you think a woman
03:57:32
Brian Atlasneeds a man in general in her life God damn it women and men need each other okay perfect that's all literally I agree we're going to do a couple tweets Nick go ahead pull up the uh
03:57:43
Brian Atlasfirst one please we're going to react to some tweets here miss Exotica $35 a FaceTime call can I have you read it please cuz men these days want to be pampered for what doing the bare minimum
03:57:54
Angely'all expect us to work take care of the kids and do household chores is giving female energy no than out past and I stand on that what do you mean okay so in my in my drizzle no but in my situation like I don't mind spoiling my
03:58:07
Angelmen okay but if I'm not getting spoiled back that's making me like you're my child you're my third child so as far as my baby father why we broke up is because he wanted for me to take care of everything still like you said drain his
03:58:19
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)balls whatever do whatever take care of the kids cook clean do everything no I'm not doing that it's going to be 50/50 in my opinion I just want to say I'm new to hearing drain his balls
03:58:31
Ericay'all she yeah got to keep him drained okay uh next that was very very men are so
03:58:40
Angeldumb damn damn bro why got to some men are some men are very like very ignorant and they're just in their own little world oh wait you know what this would be a perfect segue Nick can you
03:58:51
Brian Atlasbring up the Greater male variability good so there's a theory out there the greater male variability theory that shows that on the extreme ends so the most
03:59:03
Brian Atlasstupid people there's a greater proportion of really really stupid men as compared to women but there's a there's also a greater proportion of very very highly
03:59:15
Brian Atlasintelligent men there's more so very very hyper intelligent men than there are women but there's more women who are in the middle who are on the average go ahead pull it up Nick this is kind of u a little smaller is this like the hot
03:59:27
Q (The Q Pill)girl Matrix no this is actually distribution curve god well we the green no y'all the blue y'all the blue wait what is this and men are the green so
03:59:37
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)you have there's more stupid men but there's also more really really smart men there more men on the Spectrum where's your source for does that make
03:59:47
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)the um the does that make the stat women mature faster than man totally unrelated totally unrelated next Nick next tweet
03:59:58
Ericaokay men also have more general knowledge across domains than women do because men react on logic and thought and fact and not emotion they have to get the
04:00:12
Angelfact can you read it go ahead if you going to come to my DM saying you want to be my man you got to pay my bills thank you got to pay your bill like so when you first meet a guy mhm he's got to like immediately start
04:00:26
Angelpaying the bills no no no I'm not saying that I'm saying like if we're living together and we're like sharing our life together like I would if I'm taking care of the kids and I'm doing my thing I want you to pay most of the bills like what's that Destiny CH song bills pay my
04:00:39
Brian Atlasbills can you pay my teph make his poets hurt question so you got two uh was it two kids or three kids I have two two kids like if
04:00:49
Brian Atlasyou're going to first a with a guy would you expect him to uh pay the babysitter oh definitely not no no would you I don't know if any of you saw this viral video there was a woman who's dating a
04:00:59
Brian Atlasguy I think they' had been dating for a short period of time she expected him to purchase food for does anybody know what I'm
04:01:08
Natalia Chestytalking about bu buy food for for the kid that's not I have a strong opinion on that yeah I have an opinion on it too I just I forgot the full context of it what's your opinion on it my opinion on it is
04:01:22
Natalia Chestyuh you're talking about yeah you said the restaurant where the the girlfriend yeah expected the the her boyfriend to buy her kids food but it's not her his son correct mhm yeah no I think that's
04:01:33
Natalia Chestyso dumb I think as long as the guy if he has another kid with her I think he should take care of his own kid if he doesn't have a kid with her where's your baby daddy at that that's my opinion okay so if they were dating for a long time like I could see how that's kind of
04:01:46
Angeldisrespectful cuz if we're like dating like I would expect you to take care of me and my child I mean I can do it on my own not saying I can't do it but like I would expect a man to be a man like that's what a man is supposed to do sure
04:01:56
Angelin my opinion next tweet what the go ahead my baby daddy is such a punk ass [ __ ] I will never ever let another [ __ ] in my presence unless
04:02:07
Angelhe actually doing grown man [ __ ] thank you for reading my TED Talk doesn't me birthday bro oh Lord definitely Baby Daddy what is grown man [ __ ] grown man [ __ ] like like my baby
04:02:20
Angeldaddy does not have a car no license no house uh nothing he doesn't have a good credit score my credit score is very great it's actually good very good so
04:02:28
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)wait isn't credit score kind of like a scam I SC I think USA scam it is a scam because it like I think it doesn't apply to Rich why are we paying tax no
04:02:39
Angelliterally why we paying for tax why we paying for tax his life we shouldn't be so for the first 10 months no he was not um of
04:02:49
Angelhis now um he's forced to take care of her because I work I pay the bills and he has no job no car so I'm not going to let him drive my car to go spend money on weed alcohol and everything and not
04:03:01
Q (The Q Pill)Prov wait does he live with you yes what yes wait Andrew can can I let me I'm always intrigued by these situations cuz you said all of that but he a baby daddy you got with him so what
04:03:12
Angelwas the situation with him we were both taking care of our own stuff to like separately and then when I got pregnant we decided to move wait how old is your kid she's one six and one oh okay yeah
04:03:24
Angelokay so um we had moved from Alaska and then I went to Virginia he went to Florida and I worked my whole pregnancy and then we said okay we're going to move in together we moved in and then he end up losing his job twice and I was like okay I'm going just start you know
04:03:37
Angelpaying the bills taking care of kids whatever and I told him he had a certain time to get a job but he decided not to do that which is why we're broken up now but I was like I'm not going to have no third kids taking care of a man when you're laid up in my house like you comfortable like how you comfortable not paying bills in my house and I'm taking
04:03:50
Angelcare of the kids as well getting a free ride yeah a free ride that was like I I don't care how much I love you like were you were you an escort during this period no I stopped at 18 like it's been a long ass time since I escorted oh you
04:04:02
Q (The Q Pill)that's the last time you escorted was at 18 yeah 18 yeah so y'all moved in together and it was your name was on the my name is on the lease yeah his name is nowhere yeah okay mhm okay def how long
04:04:12
Angeldid you give him to get a job before I gave him like a month or two now if you lived together how was he not involved in the first 10 months okay so the situation was we didn't have our own
04:04:23
Angelplace when we moved okay so we live with somebody else and I was he was working but he did not help me take care of the kids even when he was working so he would come home go to sleep I take care of the kids wake up he go to work I take
04:04:35
Angelcare of the kids all day again so it was just a cycle was he paying the bills no he was still not paying for anything that's why I said like it was getting frustrating which is why I broke it off with him because how do you have a job and you're broke every time you get paid
04:04:47
Angelwhen he only spent money but you guys were living together with the friend yes okay so you're living together with the friend so he was involved in his kid's life he was there sleeping he wasn't like changing diapers he wasn't you know
04:05:00
Angelplaying with her feeding her giving her a bath nothing so I don't think he was there he was physically there yes okay so he was there for the first 10 months and then afterwards you guys got a place
04:05:11
Angeltogether yeah I I got after you got a place together you still live with him why would it be helpful to run the guy down on Twitter okay so the reason is because he claims that even though I take care of the bills I still don't do anything he
04:05:23
Angelclaims since I take care of the kids I don't do anything like I'm not a good mom whatever that's his preference or his opinion so I was sitting there saying that because I'm working and he's sitting there arguing with me about something dumb so I made that tweet I
04:05:37
Angelwas like I was pissed off I was drunk or whatever but um yeah so I just I don't think he deserves my respect as far as is me because why would he want to move to do anything which is good for you if
04:05:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)you're running him down all the time if I was what I'm sorry if you're running him down all the time why would he want to move into the category of uh doing well by you or doing well by kind of
04:06:00
Angelthis what is becoming like a makeshift family unit of some type why would he want to move into that uh position if you're if you're just running them down okay so at the beginning of our relationship like I said we were taking care of ourselves separately like we
04:06:12
Angelwere not broke we both had a job I was a teacher he was working at a at some sort of seafood Plant whatever and so when we decided to get pregnant like we planed the pregnancy we moved I moved to Virginia he moved to Florida and I said
04:06:24
Angelokay I'll work I'll support the kids while you work and save up money to send me money for the baby but then when we moved in together like I said no car no license he doesn't have good credit he didn't have any money coming with him so
04:06:37
AngelI let him use my car I let him take up my time to work and he still didn't provide even when I let him use all my stuff and not pay for it as far as my carard note and stuff so that's why I got fed up with it as of this year
04:06:49
Angelbecause all he does is lay around and sleep and maybe change a diaper maybe feed the baby maybe do this but I do everything with my older daughter he only takes care of the younger one so the one that's his yeah the one that's his so my older daughter but I mean why
04:07:00
Andrew Wilson (virtual)would that be why would that be a problem if he's just taking care of the one that's his he's not doing anything wrong by doing that right that's his kid but it's because when we got together he knew I had my daughter and I told him if he was going to Media like he has to
04:07:12
Andrew Wilson (virtual)treat her the same as he treats any other child we have so I that's an unreasonable expectation to put on a man or to put on a woman it would be an unreasonable expectation to put on a woman that they have to treat your uh
04:07:25
Andrew Wilson (virtual)progeny the same as they would treat their own and vice versa isn't that an unreasonable expect like if they do great right but you can't have that expectation can you but I don't think so because like I said he knew what he was getting into when he met me so if he
04:07:38
Angeldidn't want to do that he should have told me from the GetGo and I could have moved on and not waste over two years of my life life with him so now he wants to act different now that I'm working I'm paying for everything I buy him clothes shoes weed alcohol whatever and so I
04:07:51
Angeljust don't think it's fair to me that I'm 23 getting my [ __ ] together and he's about to be 36 and has nothing it's just not fair girl he's leing off of girl 36 that's what I'm saying he was my age but
04:08:03
Angelhe's 36 and he has nothing to his name nothing like asking his mama for money is just too much for me and I handle my [ __ ] so wait what did you find attractive of him what did you said he was working like we was in Alaska he had a seafood Plant yeah and he was
04:08:17
Angelproviding for me and my daughter but then so he lost everything he I mean he lied about having a car when we first met he lied about having a car and a license what happened to his job he lost it how he got fired yeah he got fired that's cuz he calling out a work
04:08:29
Natalia Chestyclaiming oh he want to spend time with me no no I make so he had the stuff and then he lost it while well he lied about the car everything else yeah everything else Dam how how long was that in
04:08:38
Angelbetween maybe like a year damn wait is after a year you should have known he wasn't going to I should have but he was sending like he was send me money every week for the baby so I'm like okay maybe he's going to change do whatever I
04:08:49
Angelthought you just said he wasn't that he wasn't supporting the kid at all no I'm talking about the one that he had with me he he has not supported since I had her when I was pregnant yes he sent about was supporting a kid that wasn't his no no no no no he didn't pay nothing
04:09:02
Angelfor my older daughter I'm saying when I got pregnant he sent baby stuff as far as like diapers you know all that other stuff but then after I had her is when it changed and he lost his job and he just decided you know what I'm going to use my money on pills all this other
04:09:13
Andrew Wilson (virtual)[ __ ] but he was so he was sending support to his kid while you were pregnant then post pregnancy and you guys did live together and he is currently right this second
04:09:24
Angelliving with you and still participating in his child's life right I okay if you consider physically being there yes physically but as far as being a dad as being an active Dad no he's not cuz you have kids right yeah so are you just
04:09:38
Angelgoing to sleep around all day and let your kids do whatever and not even talk to them spend time with them well when I was so um I I spent most of my adult life working 60 70 hours a week while my wife
04:09:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)stayed home probably most of the week I would say was spent sleeping without being able to participate as much as I wish I could have in my kids' lives but you know I was busy making money so that
04:10:00
TTS/Chat readerthey could live right yeah he doesn't he he doesn't put us first he puts his own needs first and that's why I said I can't do it anymore Captain Army donated $200 ladies hard ball question what what
04:10:13
Brian Atlasyol's body count from left to right sound off yeah we'll go there by the way Andrew that guy who you made a challenge to did he what was his name it was I guess I guess I guessed wrong he was
04:10:24
Brian Atlastalking about the chicken pink it was uh will Fitch I don't think he ever uh or was it if you guessed it right he would do another yeah I guessed it right oh I see okay all right uh so ladies
04:10:37
Brian AtlasHardball question what's y'all's body count from left to right sound off starting with you I got we'll just start with you we'll go around the table damn okay including what just like
04:10:49
Brian Atlaspenetration everything uh p and the v p and the v um if you want to give us a separate sing the D number we'll accept that too okay no I'm not addition p and
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Angelthe I'm Z penetration yeah okay the I'm going say like 50 50 60 around there 70 maybe 50 60 yeah 60 since I was 18 though from 18 and now
04:11:12
Andrew Wilson (virtual)yeah around 6 that's 4 years wait wait hang on did did you say you're 22 or 23 I'm 23 so I mean how many years is that from 18 to
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)23 that is about five years five years yeah five years yeah so so what you're actually saying is that in five years
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Natalie (partial)you boned 60 dudes yeah yeah okay yes sir so p and the V or everything well cuz you're you're a buy right you're a
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Brian Atlasbuy let's let's include uh V uh scissors scissors Scissor Sisters uh so give us your your p and
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Natalie (partial)the V count and your p on P count okay
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Natalie (partial)um p and the V four okay Scissor
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Ellie/Vera (mixed)Sisters you got Riz come on 16 16 okay she got Riz okay what B from 16 to 25 I
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Brian Atlasbought 4 four wait and you're currently 25 yes well you you do are you counting your escorting I'm counting everything
04:12:21
Light Brigh (partial)everything yes wait so it was how much again sorry 44 44 okay what about you um
04:12:29
Brian AtlasV1 P5 wait you said V1 so oh p p and the V and then and the
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Brian AtlasVV P5 got it got it got it two I a answer stop the cap come on um what what uh range how
04:12:51
Andrew Wilson (virtual)about the range how about the range that's fair what range what range like uh it's between so cute oh my God between so is
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Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)it between 20 and 40 or 40 and 70 um [ __ ] no it's between um I'm going say
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Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)five I'm going give you like four to 10 [ __ ] in between that it's no more than it's not even 10 four to 10 yeah it's not 10 and it's not four so we're
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Ericawe're counting just anytime P to be right even like unwillingness consensual consensual
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Ericaconsensual men 13 okay go consensual ve consensual women what about the please include please include the the I don't I
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Ericadon't do it I won't okay how about people that are confused about their gender I can't I'm sorry I don't with it what about women women over a
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Brian Atlas100 you've beded nice good for you Cong wait what wait with a partner or uh like solo okay so UNC consensually I was
04:14:02
Ericadamaged growing up so I laid with more women than I did men cuz there was a time in my life that I thought I was a lesbian then I was like I can't even get along with myself so I was a hoe to
04:14:12
Brian Atlasgirls but never to guys H wait so question if you were like dating a dude would you make him wait for sex all the while you're just like smashing running
04:14:24
Andrew Wilson (virtual)through chicks no running through them how many of these women did you get involved in while you're with us uh a of
04:14:31
Ericayours thir 13 13 13 oh no no no 17 women with my ex I'm sorry 17 I'm
04:14:41
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)sorry count about in the corner here six damn P the V like pis it really take us a long time to
04:14:50
Natalia Chestymove on okay no comment girl range no comment that say
04:15:03
Brian Atlaswild go ahead Q it said ladies oh yeah he doesn't have a it's true the question
04:15:10
Brian Atlasskipping their questions says ladies I'm asking sorry been having privileges you got privileges in here it's CU
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Background/Andrew feed artifactit's in Theo Q will you answer if she answers she ain't going to answer she been politicking this whole time got to answer I said no comment I how about me
04:15:32
Ericawe just guessed then can I ask a question no comment can you say yours yeah can I can I legitimately ask
04:15:42
Ericaquestion question for you guys for the three men on the panel um would you be able to date a woman knowing she did what she did like for me it's over 9,000 and think about
04:15:55
Andrew Wilson (virtual)marrying wait what would you be able to be with a woman like myself knowing my past nope listen listen nope the
04:16:06
Andrew Wilson (virtual)answer being honest you ask you asked I'm giving why I said I'll probably never get married let me give you the caveat that's not true just so the answer is no but there's a caveat here right which is that your Val you're not you don't you don't have to spend the
04:16:19
Andrew Wilson (virtual)rest of your life damaged because of this you can move past it okay you can move past it and there are men who are willing to look past it yeah he's correct I mean you ain't do nothing but settle for
04:16:30
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)less not like that said that kind of wrong huh you ain't do nothing you didn't do nothing but just like invite girls freely like what did you do like you just was settling for Less really like you if once you know wor and all
04:16:43
Ericathat it don't matter you you were in love and it's okay you were in broke my heart he is the first male to
04:16:51
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)ever we live and we learn plenty of fish in the sea F SE they're soy boys now they're cutting things off and I'm just don't feel like
04:17:02
Brian Atlasyou got to do whatever your man say yeah girl cuz if you say jump off this uh staircase jump off you'll be okay I want a woman who's so submissive
04:17:13
Brian Atlasshe will jump off a build cult leader [ __ ] drink this Koolaid drink the Kool-Aid not drink I want her to be
04:17:25
Brian Atlaswilling to you know I don't want her to do it but she better be willing to [ __ ] drink the Kool-Aid what does that even mean I'm kidding guys come he doesn't want to ask he wants you to just do it you got to get that [ __ ] right she
04:17:37
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)likes him yeah see Q agrees next tweet please don't let it next
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Ellie/Vera (mixed)tweet oh we're on Vera here Vera oh I said you men wouldn't know a good woman even if I hit you in my car that's not a
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Ellie/Vera (mixed)good woman bro oh I know oh I know wait you're not a good woman no what I mean what has been done for me other than get
04:18:08
Andrew Wilson (virtual)me pregnant and cheat on me like be for real at the end of Right Now sing for reason you had no hand in any of that you had no autonomy whatsoever those sons of
04:18:22
Andrew Wilson (virtual)[ __ ] had nothing to do with you I mean you just didn't have any choice in the matter you were just um you just a bystandard in your own life yeah wait but do you do you
04:18:32
Ellie/Vera (mixed)categorize yourself as a good woman right now no maybe in 10 years I might do better but like if you want a good man don't you have to be a good woman I'm
04:18:44
Brian Atlasnot trying to find a man though well but your tweet I mean we're re I'm just saying in general oh in general what men wouldn't know a good woman I actually think hey I
04:18:57
Brian Atlasknow a lot of men who really don't know I would actually good women are highly coveted by men and when we encounter a good woman we know
04:19:06
Natalia Chestyit I agree I concur good women are highly coveted by men would you agree um Brian or not agree that every like every woman has bad in them but also everyone
04:19:19
Natalia Chestyhas good in them like man they're good and bad can you just say that about can you just say that about wait oh yeah yeah you're right you're right you're right hum in general humans in general yeah because like we're categorizing like we're saying like hey do you think
04:19:31
Natalia Chestyyou're a good woman I mean but she's a bad woman but tomorrow she'll do a good thing like but it's like there some people who who fall prey to what's called preast they fall prey to what's
04:19:42
Andrew Wilson (virtual)called pre L and it becomes so bad that no there's no good left in them at all it does happen it is a phenomenon and no I don't I don't accept that everybody has some good and some bad I just I
04:19:55
Natalia Chestydon't accept that I think it's categorically false I think there are people who just have nothing but bad at them oh wow got it yeah cuz I disagree yeah I I completely disagree but it's really cool to see someone with that
04:20:05
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)point of view I never really you be good and bad come on now we ask like that's like that's like Oh I'm a good woman but I'm going to cheat on my man but I'm still good like or I'm a good man but I'm to cheat on my woman but I'm still
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)good like you know what's right Ain no good no but people rationalize I mean people got toxic traits next twe yeah exactly can I have you read it go ahead I know what I bring to the table so any
04:20:29
Ellie/Vera (mixed)man that don't see it then that's on them never has a man turn me down that didn't regret it in the future somebody I seek out by the way not that they seek
04:20:39
Ellie/Vera (mixed)me out hold on one sec uh what do you bring bring to the table I mean I cook I clean and I'm a good cook at that and I love to do it I take care of my kids I pay all my bills I own everything that I
04:20:51
Ellie/Vera (mixed)have I have never had a man just buy me something and he can hold it over my head because I am that woman what's the uh what's the best dish that you make ooh wait what did you say the best dish
04:21:03
Ellie/Vera (mixed)you make the best food dish oh I love making like steak and lobster with potatoes asparagus like you know I like making basics
04:21:14
Ellie/Vera (mixed)hang on that's basic iar I like making pizza from scratch like the dough I like making bread from scratch it's I mean at the end of the day with this inflation everything costs a lot so I like to make
04:21:25
Ellie/Vera (mixed)everything from scratch it's easier it's lower I mean I live ink I understand all that hang on hang on just listen to what I'm asking I want to try your bre the best dish that you make the very best
04:21:37
Ellie/Vera (mixed)one is what for me not chicken alfredo I can tell you that I love chicken alfredo that's the basic dish I feel like every girl will be like yeah it's great no
04:21:48
Ellie/Vera (mixed)yeah I know but what's the best one but I say um best dish is I would say like chicken probably see casserole I make
04:21:57
Andrew Wilson (virtual)good casseres and stuff but I'm casserole we go ask going to make is chicken casserole hold on next
04:22:09
Ellie/Vera (mixed)tweet chicken Castle feel prom can you read it my best one okay I said and if you're stupid you you're stupid if you go into a randomized building with a man
04:22:21
Ellie/Vera (mixed)you don't know in any form and still pay a th000 plus dollars on a tattoo he didn't do any paperwork and anything beforeand you must be on the Spectrum not going to argue with a white
04:22:35
Ellie/Vera (mixed)person yall should have seen there's more should have seen it but it was it was like basically she SLP shame me and [ __ ] like that so sorry so I was like you know
04:22:48
Ellie/Vera (mixed)wait why the F why wouldn't you argue with a white person because it's always white people who got the most to say about certain issues that have nothing to do with them it was a racism thing basically and I stood up for somebody
04:23:00
Ellie/Vera (mixed)and it was yeah so and I'm not going to do the racist [ __ ] I'm not going to do transphobia I'm not going to do any of that so okay next tweet
04:23:13
Ellie/Vera (mixed)because men are meant to be providers I don't know but and I mean I'm not with anyone who can't do a simple thing men are meant to be providers I don't were they
04:23:25
Natalia Chestynot I mean remember I want to be in the future like you know you already know in 2024 some men don't even think that they should be providers see I believe in that
04:23:34
Brian Atlasthough let me ask you a question so if men are meant to be providers are women meant what are they to not be prostitutes yes
04:23:47
Ellie/Vera (mixed)yes I love how you admited that like actually saying that you would take it away I would literally I would literally stop you know heartbe I'd stop like this without no question H but here's the
04:23:56
Brian Atlasthing you would stop but do you think just because you've stopped that men aren't going to take that into the calculus of determining if you would like your past into determining is this
04:24:09
Ericasomebody who I want to date who I wouldn't be with had sex for money huh I wouldn't be with somebody like that though that goes for the same question I asked earlier would you guys consider
04:24:18
Ericayourself being able to date an escort SL prostitute or only fans model NOP I mean I've never been an only fans model I just did something submissive for my
04:24:28
Ericaman's needs and I still will not find a man to actually be able to see me even though I know my wor I already know like men find out why they why he broke up
04:24:40
Ericawith me cuz I tell them the truth like oh I would never be able to date you what do you mean what do you mean you know your worth though what does that mean let's come back to one of the
04:24:49
Ericacliches that women always say I Prov like I my work as in being a being a submissive provider like I provide to his emotions I provide to the household
04:25:00
EricaI provide I pay my own bills and even though I'm a good woman and I'm loyal isn't that a basic requirement that a good man would want is that their woman would be submissive and if necessary out
04:25:12
Andrew Wilson (virtual)financially those are just basic requirements what is it that about you that gives you what you consider selfworth what is that what is that
04:25:22
Ericathing um I don't need the praise of somebody to tell me oh you look pretty today no I
04:25:32
EricaI take care of myself and I by that I mean I watch what I put into my body I go to the gym I meditate I definitely
04:25:42
Andrew Wilson (virtual)lead a clean house because cleanliness is next to a basic requirement that you take care of yourself and uh that but most women they the house clean like isn't that is that like a basic
04:25:53
Ericarequirement of people the average women today they want their man to take care of everything pay their bills so so I'll even accept that that hang on hang on like a depend hear me out hear me out
04:26:05
Andrew Wilson (virtual)I'll accept that that criticism is even true I just don't think it matters very much like if on average most women are [ __ ] horrible let's say uh who cares that doesn't that doesn't really tell me
04:26:16
Andrew Wilson (virtual)what your selfworth is because you you do the things that they should be doing I'm I'm wondering specifically what is it that that you think makes you or
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Ericagives you this large amount of of worth I know how to keep a garden growing and a house ran I don't depend on a man to run my
04:26:37
Ericahouse I run the household the only thing I ask I never expect I ask for one hug a day Sor it's a lot of hugs next tweet
04:26:48
Brian Atlasnext tweet there's no more okay we're all caught up uh let's quickly go around actually wait hold on uh I want to see wait what was the other thing we had
04:26:59
EricaI got a really good cook as you should what's your what's your best dish pull pull up love I love from scratch V proman
04:27:09
Natalia Chestyfrom scratch it's the clip or whatever I think it was in between the two tweets can we ask everybody this is one of ask everybody what favorite dish I think I
04:27:19
Natalia Chestythink I want say mine boring can I say mine all right this is one of your Clips oh yeah uh I don't think we need
04:27:28
Natalia Chestyaudio yeah when the girls asks to see pics of him but you like him for his personality that's a dict no it's okay no it's not it was
04:27:40
Brian Atlasactually so basically like if you're dating a guy who's mid but he's got a good personality correct that's that's the that's the point of the video
04:27:50
Natalia Chestyyep any girls is there a question no I'm just curious any girls have uh yeah but that was my friend in the beginning and then it was me yeah yeah I mean it sort of ties into the rating one to 10 thing
04:28:01
Brian Atlasbecause a lot of women have an over inflated sense of their own physical attractiveness and men who are actually their looks equivalent you think that you're above him you think you're sett
04:28:12
Brian Atlasfor him on looks you're actually like in your you're in the same league so yeah but if she's not attracted to him then it doesn't matter it's not really what
04:28:22
Brian AtlasI'm talking about but in any case uh I want to go around the table who here considers themselves a feminist starting with you not really
04:28:32
Angelyeah yeah H yes I no I mean into the mics
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Light Brigh (partial)guys um I don't I don't think so no yes no I don't even know no
04:28:49
Natalia Chestynope I have no idea you don't know uh if I'm being honest because like multiple women have like different opinions of feminism and then it's like it's like I honestly don't I don't know I don't even know
04:29:02
Natalia Chestylike I'm not going to say yes or no honestly the best way is to like tell me what it is and I'll say if I agree to that or not because I can't yeah exactly what let's Define feminism yeah and then can say yes or no Andrew want do you want the
04:29:14
Andrew Wilson (virtual)prompter please Andrew yeah so I'll give you the most charitable definition that um that I have which is the movement towards egalitarianism and the rejection of
04:29:27
Natalia Chestypatriarchal systems I'm sorry I did not understand what you said use kindergartener terms yeah okay so so we want to be equal and
04:29:36
Andrew Wilson (virtual)stuff and we don't want the men running this [ __ ] that's okay that it was that e thank you I appreciate that no I'm not a feminism I think it's not a femin femin
04:29:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)feminism yeah yeah I think it's a what what would you if you're not a feminism what would you be would you be like a meninism feminis would you would you consider women working and owning property in such
04:30:01
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)feminism just because women would you consider women working voting owning property Etc to be feminism no I would consider probably the move for voting to
04:30:11
Andrew Wilson (virtual)be feminism but property ownership likely not depends on the context of it but feminism and an entailment of feminism is just rejecting patriarchy that's what it really is that's radical
04:30:23
Ericafeminism no it's actually he's right it's feminism just because a woman has a job and has to work and provide does not make her a feminist she's just stepping up to the ball because she has to do
04:30:35
Ericasomething to provide for the children that she had or to provide for herself because nobody is going to pay your way so just because you work does it make you a feminist I agree I agree 100% wait
04:30:49
Boss Lady/Tara (mixed)where who first yes I do girl if I'm agreeing I'm agreeing for a reason you just going to ask a question you just was going to
04:30:57
Natalia Chestyask her what she say no I wasn't oh girl girl what girl wait wait so wait what did you you said that just because a girl works and just because a girl you
04:31:10
Ericaknow works for her [ __ ] she has a house that doesn't make it she says because you own property and have a job makes you a feminist yes that's that does not I believe in I believe in gender
04:31:23
Andrew Wilson (virtual)roles I believe that there are roles for men and I believe that there are roles for women okay that's tradition yeah so why would why would property ownership of women be a rejection of patriarchy I mean from my understanding
04:31:36
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)women weren't able to own property but I could be well your understanding is flawed they were able to own property they've always been and all the other important stuff so that's besides the point AG I don't think it's beside the point
04:31:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)because women should have the right toang hang on stop let me finish they were always able to work and they were always able to own property they weren't always able to vote but most men were not always able to vote almost no men in
04:32:01
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)fact were ever able to vote they only got the vote a few years before women got the vote most women were not were not working and did not own property that would be an except yeah but that doesn't mean that they could
04:32:12
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)they still because they was thing it wasn't something that every woman was capable of doing now it is that's it's not it wasn't a thing every man was capable of doing okay but you're not arguing that that's a bad thing you're
04:32:24
Andrew Wilson (virtual)arguing that women being able to vote and such as is yeah but you just said that women because not all women could own property because they didn't have the resources or capability to do so
04:32:36
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that that meant it was a rejection of patriarchy that's insane that that doesn't even logically track can you explain why that would logically track or why it is that if women work that would be a rejection of patriarch makes no sense to me I mean what you consider
04:32:49
Andrew Wilson (virtual)to be patriarchy is that the woman stays at home and fulfills her traditional gender role no I didn't say anything about that I all patriarchy means is from the father that's it it just means
04:32:59
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that women or that women uh and men have a different role in society and that men are in the top echelons of that Society all the way down to the household can I make a statement the average why can't
04:33:11
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)why could women not work under such a system I don't understand can you explain that to me I mean for most of them weren't working they yeah but most of them not working doesn't mean that most of them couldn't work I don't think I don't think most places at the time if
04:33:23
Andrew Wilson (virtual)most men were in the workforce and a woman walked in and was like Hey can you hire me I'll do whatever like I don't think they would have equal opportun did they did the same [ __ ] then that they do now they were teachers and they worked as
04:33:35
Andrew Wilson (virtual)secretaries they worked in the service industry and they worked as nurses they did all the same [ __ ] that they do right now in fact they were they were sought after
04:33:44
Andrew Wilson (virtual)to do those jobs in fact even even in the midst of the mostest patriarchy that we had they were still sought after but it wasn't common and women still weren't
04:33:56
Brian Atlasable to vote wait wait wait stop stop stop stop stop stop allow them to have a back and forth please Andrew make your point then you respond yeah most men weren't able
04:34:07
Andrew Wilson (virtual)to vote so what's your point suffer was never Universal stop stop sping before I even get the point out you suffrage was not Universal for men or women it was
04:34:20
Andrew Wilson (virtual)not Universal we did not have universal suffrage in the United States until way later in its history do you understand that mhm but I still think that everybody should have the ability to
04:34:31
Andrew Wilson (virtual)that's nice but that really has nothing to do with feminism right so femin one move of feminism is only for the vote but when you say women couldn't vote neither could most men couldn't V I mean
04:34:43
Brian Atlaswhen you say most men what do you mean by that almost no men could vote which men couldn't vote hold on I I actually have something on this really quickly uh so only 50 years I just have this
04:34:55
Brian Atlaswritten down it was only a 50-year period of time between the ratification of the 15th Amendment which gave all men the right to vote in 1870 and the 19th Amendment women's vote in 1920 so
04:35:06
Andrew Wilson (virtual)there's only 50 years in America that all men could vote that women could not okay I just think women should have the right to vote well well then why did they all vote it down when they were presented with the option voting for the
04:35:17
Andrew Wilson (virtual)right to vote when they were presented with the option of actually being able to vote for the right to vote they voted against it and so that's why he ended up with a Amendment instead because they
04:35:28
Andrew Wilson (virtual)went through the court system because women didn't want the right to vote no they wanted the right to vote they didn't want to be drafted there's a difference no they didn't want the right to vote in fact be connected anti hang on hang on how many women do you think
04:35:41
Andrew Wilson (virtual)wanted the right to vote I think most of them didn't want to be drafted and the right to vote was connected to the draft you think that they should just be able to vote without having the responsibility of the draft yeah I don't think fighting an a war determines
04:35:53
Andrew Wilson (virtual)whether you're eligible or not to participate in democracy that's how got so so then so then just to get this right have had the vote before you want men to go fight your Wars while you vote that they do women are fighting in Wars too they just fight in the backline and
04:36:05
Andrew Wilson (virtual)they're the and they're that's nice that uh that Chef boy our woman is making the food for the men and signing their paychecks but they're not in the front lines getting killed are they so it's
04:36:15
Andrew Wilson (virtual)very nice it sure is nice that you want the right to vote that to to send men to Wars that you yourself don't have to fight so to clarify do you think that
04:36:26
Andrew Wilson (virtual)women should have the right to vote or not no no okay do you guys agree I do can I say why I agree though can I say why I let me finish the point yeah I
04:36:37
Andrew Wilson (virtual)always answer directly you still you still have to answer to the cop no but I also don't think most people should have the right to vote I disagree with you but can I can I say why I agree
04:36:49
Ericawith the Andrew though because most women and some of these new upand cominging men that are voting they vote on emotion and they just watch the news
04:37:00
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)and vote for who they're told to vote for you can't just be like I don't like who you're voting for therefore you can that's ridiculous you let me finish why can't we do that let meish a democrac is literally about letting everybody we
04:37:13
Ericadon't have a democracy we don't have democracy anymore a republ we were found on a republic and if you sit there and say that everybody should have the right to vote when they're blindly voting
04:37:25
Ericabecause they're voting because of their their famous people are telling them how to vote and they're not actually educating themselves on the facts I don't think all right people I don't think everybody what if I don't think
04:37:36
Ericayou're educating yourself on the facts and I no matter who wins for the votes y'all still going it's like for instance Kanye West it's like for instance Kanye West was on the
04:37:46
Ericaballot and the majority of the 189 and 20y old voted for Kanye West because who he was I do not think that everybody should have the right to vote because
04:37:57
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)they don't vote on fact they vot on people even in their 40s and 50s and 60s vote for whoever whatever headlines are telling them and rage baiting them oh this is how lefties are this is how conservatives are this is how Liberals
04:38:09
Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)are and then they just interpret that and vote this is coming from someone that's from Canada and has been ruled from America was born in the states and I grew up in New York okay I moved to Canada four years ago relax okay I'm just saying
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)wait you so I mean it sounds like if if you think that those old people also are voting responsibly that we probably shouldn't let them vote that seems very pretty stupid right I think if you live in a country you should be able to vote
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)in it that's it why because that's how democracy works it's very simple if I live in a country I should be able to to have what's your point here's a democracy question so hang on hang on
04:38:44
Andrew Wilson (virtual)hang on let me finish with it real quick monarchies work so what's your point just saying oh because it works well all sorts of systems of government work oppress oppressive governments work non-oppressive governments work all sorts mean I would argue that oppressive
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)governments don't work but we can agree to disagree on yes they do work what I'm sorry they're not working in benefit for the people I think a goal of the government is to actually benefit the people so if a government is oppressive I don't think it's working in order
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Ericalet me get this let me get this right I'm sorry you think that the government's job can I can I can I just say this in order you think the the government no you can't let let us
04:39:21
Andrew Wilson (virtual)finish our our argument here calm down lady so you're saying that governments themselves are supposed to be there on behalf of the people correct that's what they're supposed to do I don't think
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)they always can you explain why a monarchy is not because a monarchy usually doesn't end up like that when you have one person with power they usually end up looking out for the themselves and not caring about everybody else it's not one person with
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)power okay they have Nobles they have Franklin they have land stewards they had Knights they had all sorts of different things which were in the upper aristocratic class which which by the
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)way hang on let me finish lady is exactly what you got right now an aristocratic class and then you have an under class do you agree or disagree that I agree with yeah so then what's your point my point is that everybody
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)should have the right to vote if you live in a country you should be able to have a say in how it works and how it runs why why should keep it you keep asserting it but you're not giving an argument you just say cuz I want it you said it like it's yeah literally thank
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)you look you live in the country you should be able to ask a question so what that's not a should claim I should be able to do this I should all you're saying is this hang on all you're saying is this I should be able to do this cuz
04:40:33
TTS/Chat readerI should be able to do this cuz I should be able to do SC 69 donated $69 both men and women should have the right to vote before being allowed to vote one should at least pass a Civic
04:40:45
Brian Atlastest well then it would be a right so anyway so back to this wait hold on Andrew there's there's one more coming in I just want to preempt it just so just so you don't get interrupted again I just let it come
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)plus body count ter mentality is on the rig thank you thank you honor the gods appreciate it man thank you thank you go ahead Andrew so anyway all these forms of government worked fine I don't know why
04:41:22
Andrew Wilson (virtual)you keep on saying they didn't work of course they worked I mean we can point to history hang on let me finish before you start spurring and then I'll let you talk just calm down okay just just so you know when I'm talking and you're
04:41:35
Andrew Wilson (virtual)talking I can't hear you and I want to hear your argument okay so going back back to this of course those governments worked they worked fine uh you can say that they didn't work as well that could
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)be an argument this type of thing but you're still not answering the question of should why should they other than you just want them to I genuinely believe that a democracy is only actually a
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)democracy if the people who are citizens of that State have a right to vote in how it runs that's it yeah but that doesn't give us a reason why it should be a democracy why don't understand to
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)me that is a reason can I ask a question okay okay but but that's not a Justified reason you're just saying they should cuz they should cuz they should cuz you live in the country you should have a say if you live in the country because it's not you're not a free citizen if
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)you don't have a say in how it runs I think why why would you not be free if you didn't have a say in how things ran you don't have a say in how almost anything on planet Earth is run including in your nation you consider
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)yourself free because you can vote no as an into the mic as an individual no I don't like I don't think my individual impact is going to do anything unless I'm extremely rich with like billions of dollars but I'm not what the hell are
04:42:46
Andrew Wilson (virtual)you talking about as a whole people collectively right if no woman can vote then women don't have a say at all but if one woman would make a difference suffrage hang on even if you took suffrage and you were to limit suffrage
04:42:58
Andrew Wilson (virtual)you would still have Collective voting it's just that not every [ __ ] idiot could vote what the hell would be wrong with that why do you want every [ __ ] hang on why do you want every [ __ ] on Earth to be able to vote that's the
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)stupidest thing every person should vote I'm not saying if you're 15 you're 12 you're 11 you should vote okay I do think that there should be but how come because because at some point you're just too young to understand the Dynamics yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)kids are dumb no not I mean sure okay that's hilarious honestly well I mean isn't that what you're saying you don't want to vote they're [ __ ] dog I think you're being I think you're being dishonest right now I think it's pretty
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)I think I'm being the most honest out of everybody in this panel it's pretty obvious why you wouldn't want a 16 old voting what's the obvious okay so why because what a 16-year-old is busy in high school like studying for their tests hanging out with their friends
04:43:47
Andrew Wilson (virtual)they don't care about they're way more busy than adults who are working 60 hours a week oh yeah they're so busy aren't voting the reality is like a third of Americans are
04:43:57
Andrew Wilson (virtual)voting yeah but so what the point is is that they all can and 15-year-olds can't why shouldn't 15-year-olds be able to vote then come on cuz they don't have
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)the knowledge y do the door up it's not an argument why you asking me to repeat myself 17 times I told you they're too young they're in high school they're focused on other things they don't care about
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)politics and even if they wanted to they don't understand the Dynamics of it if you want to argue that 18 is still too young and you think 25 should be the limit of voting maybe we could have a conversation there but I don't think that saying women shouldn't vote is is a
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Andrew Wilson (virtual)good solution I think that's ridiculous so wait a second at 17 years and 11 months you're too stupid to vote at 18 years old you're smart enough now to vote that's what I was saying if you want to
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Light Brigh/Tara (mixed)have an argument about when the proper age to vote is we could have that argument but I don't the point of the argument is the reason you think that young people shouldn't be able to vote is because they're too dumb not because they're wrapped up with high school