She Came To DEBATE?! Andrew Wilson! Traditional Escort?! Traditional Stripper?! | Dating Talk #143

Date: 2024-03-13

Duration: 7h 45m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAdeline Star >

LLexi (Escort)>

AAngelene (DT143)>

SSelena (DT143)>

AAllison (DT143)>

MMorgan (DT143)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lexi(guest)

SPEAKER_05Angelene(guest)

SPEAKER_06Adeline Star(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Meg(guest)

SPEAKER_10Allison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_12Rose(guest)

SPEAKER_13Selena(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces all guests after show announcements and DBZ/Akira Toriyama dedication. Guests: Adeline Star, Lexi (Bunny Ranch), Meg (Australia), Angelene (stripper), Rose (NJ college student), Selena (TX stay-at-home mom), Allison (AZ counselor), Morgan (TPUSA contributor), Andrew Wilson (debate co-host). Show is close to 1 million YouTube subscribers.

“"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves"”

ControversyLexi (SPEAKER_03) refuses to disclose how many clients she sees or her body count. Brian presses; Lexi briefly stands up ("I'm just taking a little break"). Brian offers the dunce hat as a compromise — wear it for 10 min and stay. Lexi accepts the dunce hat. First use of the dunce hat mechanic. "I asked politely that I do not want to answer that part."

“"I asked that I don't want to speak about that topic I asked politely that we can either move on"”

Key MomentAdeline Star (SPEAKER_06) and Andrew Wilson (SPEAKER_01) debate pair-bonding and compartmentalization. Andrew: if you can choose to turn off pair-bonding with clients, why can't you turn it off with your boyfriend too? Adeline: I choose not to. Andrew: that's a red flag — you could turn off love whenever you want. Brian's "Betty Sue vs sex worker" hypothetical used as framing. Adeline refuses to endorse Betty Sue over the sex worker without knowing each woman's ambitions.

“"if your son came to you and said Mom I'm going to marry a sex worker what would your advice to him be"”

QuoteBrian states his marriage position after extensive panel discussion: "what can I get in a marriage that I cannot just get from a long-term monogamous relationship?" Concludes secular marriage has no logical justification and many reasons to avoid it.

“"what can I get in a marriage that I cannot just get from a long-term monogamous relationship"”

Key MomentSelf-rating debate: Adeline Star refuses to rate herself on looks ("degrading"). Andrew Wilson uses Socratic method: you have preferences for other women's looks; therefore you can apply that same standard to yourself. After extended argument Adeline concedes: "I'm an eight because my tits are too big to be a 10." First honest self-assessment after approximately 20 minutes of resistance.

“"I'm an eight because my tits are too big to be a 10"”

QuoteBrian reads TTS donation from Stiffler asking guests their body count. Adeline: above 20 (public scenes). Lexi: refuses. Others: undisclosed. Brian to Lexi: "you see one client a day on average" — starts doing math on body count. Lexi leaves her seat; dunce hat mechanic deployed again.

“"ask the girls their body count"”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson argues men caring about body count is equivalent to asking about a felony background: "it's none of your business what I did in the past" parallels to "my body count should not matter." Adeline (SPEAKER_06): they are not the same. Andrew: both are historical behaviors that predict future behavior and affect quality of life. Adeline: relationship compatibility matters more than past statistics. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): statistically, higher body count correlates with cheating, divorce, and marital unhappiness — cites 53% divorce rate and 80% female initiation.

“"your body count not important for me to know how it's going to affect me"”

Key MomentRose (SPEAKER_12) says guns are "scary and violent" and she would run away from a man with a gun. Andrew and Brian press her with home invasion scenario. Rose eventually concedes she would want a gun if she knew an attack was coming. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): encourages all women to get trained and carry; criticizes liberal indoctrination that taught women guns are scary.

“"I would prefer them to have a firearm but it's like in the hands of someone that I don't know"”

Key MomentMeg (SPEAKER_09) argues women have it harder in dating. Brian role-plays a Trader Joe's approach scenario with Meg; Meg struggles to initiate and immediately backs off when Brian is unresponsive. Brian: you have never approached a man, never asked a guy out, never initiated a first kiss, yet you think dating is harder for women. Meg partially concedes but maintains women's challenges are different (selection, risk). Morgan: agrees men have it harder; even masculine women get more dates than most men.

“"hi there what are you up to today I'm shopping at Trader Joe"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson states that women engaged in pornography and prostitution are "disgusting fucking individuals." Rose (SPEAKER_12) refuses to call individuals disgusting; only the industry. Morgan (SPEAKER_11) refuses to call individuals disgusting; prefers Christlike grace approach. Andrew challenges Morgan: "TPUSA refuses to call out homosexuality" is the same pattern. Morgan pushes back strongly on this comparison. Adeline (SPEAKER_06): calling people disgusting only polarizes; changes nothing. Lexi (SPEAKER_03) notes Andrew has been smoking cigarettes the entire show.

“"if you are a woman who is engaged in prostitution or pornography you are a disgusting fucking individual"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian does outro. Show lasted approximately 7.76 hours. 07s in the chat. DBZ theme throughout (episode dedicated to Akira Toriyama who died in March 2024).

“"07s in the chat good night guys"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Nine guests and one co-host introduce themselves: Adeline Star (26yo, adult performer, LA/TX; 3-month relationship); Lexi (23yo, legal courtesan at Moonlight Bunny Ranch, NV; single/celibate ~2 yrs); Meg (34yo, Brisbane AU; engaged; 4-month-old daughter); Angelene (21yo, Oxnard CA; exotic dancer; single 3 months; ex Brandon on prior episode); Rose (21yo, NJ; TCNJ student; in 5-month relationship); Selena (37yo, San Antonio TX; married; stay-at-home mom; 4-month-old daughter; 18yo in LA); Allison (30yo, Scottsdale AZ; school counselor; single 5 years; 7.5yr relationship ended abruptly); Morgan (24yo, Phoenix; TPUSA contributor; single 1 year; waiting for marriage); Andrew Wilson (married 10+ years; host of The Crucible; debate co-host). Relationship statuses and dating histories probed for each guest.

Sex work, escorts, and the Moonlight Bunny Ranch

Lexi (SPEAKER_03) explains her role as a legal courtesan at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch in Nevada. Panel debates whether legal escorting is meaningfully different from prostitution. Lexi maintains her work is legal and she values discretion; refuses to call clients "marks" or "Johns." Brian presses on client volume (1-4/day); Lexi briefly stands up when further pressed. Dunce hat incident: Lexi refuses to give body count; Brian offers "grace" via dunce hat for 10 min. Adeline Star (SPEAKER_06) defends compartmentalization in sex work; debates pair-bonding ability. Andrew Wilson (SPEAKER_01) uses Socratic method to argue those engaged in sex work are morally culpable.

Pair-bonding, body count, and oxytocin

Extended debate between Adeline Star (SPEAKER_06), Andrew Wilson (SPEAKER_01), Morgan (SPEAKER_11), and Brian (SPEAKER_07) on whether high body counts impair pair-bonding. Adeline argues: compartmentalization is a skill; love is a choice; body count is irrelevant. Andrew argues: oxytocin/pair-bonding research shows repeated sexual partners impair bonding ability; choosing not to pair-bond is itself evidence of reduced capacity. Morgan (SPEAKER_11) provides statistics on divorce rates correlating with body count. Brian: "if your son could marry Betty Sue (virgin) or a sex worker, who would you recommend?" Adeline refuses to endorse Betty Sue; says it depends on ambition and values. Discussion of practicing-to-divorce by having multiple relationships before marriage. Lexi (SPEAKER_03) says she does not have feelings for clients by compartmentalizing. Andrew: "if you can turn it off, why can't you turn it off with your boyfriend too?"

Wife and husband scale ratings

Brian asks each guest to rate themselves on the wife scale (1-10). Lexi (SPEAKER_03): 0 (not looking to be a wife right now). Meg (SPEAKER_09): 10 (fiancé would say 10; she gives 8-9 due to newborn fatigue). Selena (SPEAKER_13): 9 (deducts 1 for post-baby duties). Allison (SPEAKER_10): 9. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): 9 (can cook, wants to forgo career for motherhood, wants 5 kids). Brian (SPEAKER_07): 0 (does not want legal marriage); earlier said 7 then revised. Andrew Wilson (SPEAKER_01): "power level over 9,000" / wife says 10. Marriage vs long-term monogamy debate follows: Brian argues no reason to legally marry as a secularist; Andrew agrees secular marriage has no logical basis. Meg (SPEAKER_09) argues marriage is for the children and the mother, not the man. Panel mostly agrees: secular marriage has no compelling male benefit.

Self-rating on looks (1-10)

Brian goes around table asking for self-ratings on looks (1-10, "can't pick 7"). Adeline Star (SPEAKER_06): refuses ("degrading"); eventually concedes 8 after Andrew's argument. Angelene (SPEAKER_05): 8.5. Rose (SPEAKER_12): 8.5 (after initial deflection). Selena (SPEAKER_13): 6 ("before baby, 4 now"). Allison (SPEAKER_10): 9. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): 8. Meg (SPEAKER_09): describes self as 7 (fiancé thinks 10). Brian (SPEAKER_07): 5. Andrew Wilson (SPEAKER_01): 4. Lexi (SPEAKER_03): not rated (husband scale given instead: 0). Discussion of whether self-rating can be objective vs subjective; Andrew's Socratic argument forces Adeline to admit she has preferences for other women and therefore can apply same standard to herself.

Samira Khan vs Hannah Baron Twitter controversy

TTS donation raises the trending Samira Khan vs Hannah Baron debate on X/Twitter. Brian: Samira posted a Lebanese glamour woman vs Hannah Baron (Southern US woman noodling catfish). Samira apparently mocked Hannah's accent and called it "illegal." Brian showed comparison images; Samira had since privated her Twitter. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): his wife Rachel was involved in making the post blow up. Andrew: Samira is a "pampered princess" who dismissed catfishing and Southern culture as anti-feminine. Brian: Hannah seemed perfectly pleasant and physically attractive from the two clips. Panel: noodling catfish is not anti-feminine; Samira's dunking attempt backfired.

Body count and insecurity debate

Brian asks each guest for body count (Stiffler TTS donation prompt). Adeline Star (SPEAKER_06): > 20 on camera; refuses exact personal count. Lexi (SPEAKER_03): refuses entirely. Angelene (SPEAKER_05): declines (brother watching). Allison (SPEAKER_10), Rose (SPEAKER_12), Selena (SPEAKER_13), Morgan (SPEAKER_11): undisclosed. Meg (SPEAKER_09): does not disclose; says intelligence is way higher than body count. Debate: is it insecure for a man to care about a woman's body count? Adeline (SPEAKER_06): initially says yes; then walks it back; ultimately says no. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): body count is like a felony background — relevant to the relationship future. Brian: panel's refusal to disclose implies they believe it matters.

Guns and gun ownership debate

TTS donation scenario: rich attractive man with AR-15 next to bed — reaction? Adeline (SPEAKER_06): fine with it; from Texas. Meg (SPEAKER_09): fine with it; would feel safe. Rose (SPEAKER_12): scared of guns; would run away. Extended Andrew/Brian/Morgan debate with Rose about gun safety and female self-defense. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): firearm owner; carries legally; strongly encourages women to get trained. Brian home invasion scenario: Rose eventually concedes she would want a gun for protection. Selena (SPEAKER_13): been to a range; supports responsible ownership. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): home invasion with crystal ball — would you get trained then? Rose: yes. Andrew: then you already answered the question.

Should women be drafted? Voting rights and civic duty

Panel debate on whether women should be drafted. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): women should not be on front lines. Brian argues from egalitarian perspective that feminist demand for equality implies draft eligibility. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): Starship Troopers civic service model — service guarantees citizenship/voting. Implication: if women aren't drafted, they face less civic duty; lesser duty = lesser reward (e.g., voting rights). Meg (SPEAKER_09): men are better at some things, women at others; doesn't think anyone should be forced to do things they don't want to do. Brian: telling a woman she shouldn't be drafted is MORE sexist than saying women shouldn't vote (dying in a trench is worse than not voting on a piece of paper). Primary victim of war: panel agrees it is men.

Who has it harder in dating — men or women?

Meg (SPEAKER_09) argues women have dating harder despite facing less rejection. Her points: biological risk of wrong selection; women were brainwashed by feminism; fear of physical danger from men; quality of men has deteriorated; women have to filter genuine men from those who only want sex. Brian counters with his list of male dating burdens: approach, first message, lead conversation, solicit date, pay, initiate physical escalation, etc. Brian asks Meg: have you ever approached a man? Asked a man out? Initiated a first kiss? Meg: no, no, no. Brian: that sounds easier for you. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): agrees men have it harder; women are approached 10x more. Meg eventually partially concedes men face more rejection but maintains women's challenges differ. Brian reveals he has been on both sides of the pursuit: having women DM him is much easier than cold approach.

Pro-life vs pro-choice discussion

Rose (SPEAKER_12) is nominally pro-choice but leans toward first-trimester limits. Uses Biblical "life begins at first breath" argument (God breathing life into Adam). Morgan (SPEAKER_11): pro-life from conception to natural death; all lives equally valuable. States brain waves and heartbeat at 6 weeks; fetus can feel pain ~8-10 weeks. Selena (SPEAKER_13): supports sa exception cases. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): very much pro-life. Brian (SPEAKER_07): pro-life. Going around table: Lexi pro-choice; Adeline pro-choice; Rose pro-choice (nuanced); Meg undisclosed; Angelene undisclosed; Selena pro-life (with exceptions); Allison undisclosed; Morgan pro-life; Brian pro-life; Andrew pro-life.

Sex work morality — are individuals disgusting?

Rose (SPEAKER_12) states from notes she thinks porn stars cannot separate job from relationship and that sex work is "disgusting and sinful" from a Biblical perspective. Brian asks her to say this directly to Adeline and Lexi sitting nearby. Rose clarifies: not the people, but the industry and the acts. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): the women engaged in sex work are themselves disgusting individuals — states this directly and without hedge. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): disagrees with calling individuals disgusting; prefers to call out the behavior/industry and show them light/salvation (Christlike approach). Andrew: Morgan's gentle approach is "TPUSA refusing to call out homosexuality" equivalent. Morgan pushes back on this comparison. Adeline (SPEAKER_06): calling someone disgusting changes no one's viewpoint; only polarizes. Lexi (SPEAKER_03): points out Andrew has been smoking cigarettes the whole show. Extended debate on whether Christian duty is to rebuke directly vs offer grace.

Body positivity debate

Adeline Star (SPEAKER_06) raises body positivity as a topic from pre-show notes. She argues women's bodies of all sizes should be celebrated; opposes fat-phobia and unsolicited judgment. Andrew (SPEAKER_01): if someone presents themselves publicly claiming to be beautiful, others have an equal right to disagree with that assessment. Adeline: casting judgment on strangers for their weight is not okay. Morgan (SPEAKER_11): body positivity movement has been co-opted to encourage obesity; medical profession complicit in normalizing unhealthy weight. Brian: is it celebrated/normalized when women "let themselves go"? Andrew: the trend exists because mostly heavy women promote it (convenience factor). Adeline: you should not go out of your way to degrade people for their bodies.

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Brian Atlasgenders and a dude burned a a girl wasn't ready to commit to this guy she' been seeing for a while and but they

Brian Atlaswere hooking up but just she wasn't ready to commit you know and uh she she the guy then

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RoseLord well he he's right he's not wrong I mean oh well I don't know if you should admit to that no no no not

Brian Atlasnot so I'm just wait he's not wrong about the 36 Double D's part you're only allowed to burn stuff if you have

Roselarge you're only mamories 36 okay like so crazy okay if that's if that's minor triple you can so okay like

Adeline StarI just painted the scenario where it's basically you're allowed to burn the genders are reversed I'm a bit of a pyro so I was wondering if you gained satisfaction and if you let him no because it just at the end of the day it

Adeline Starjust sounds like yes it is problematic Behavior I will not dismiss that but it just sounds like two girls one was hurt one was like hey let's burn his shirt

Adeline Starand um okay let's do it but for me I I I would have like at least videoed it or something and I would have done it in a safe place and then you know just like kind of like Express that but you know like at the end of the day like if you

Adeline Stardidn't have anything else going on you didn't have anything better to do it just sounds like typical College Behavior yes it is problematic yes they are red flags

Adeline Startypical okay what what do I I I'm not going to say I'm a college kid or I I went to college very briefly but I that just sounds like another crazy College

Adeline Starstory it is so that's that's all I have to say about that I mean that's a great way to just sort of sum it up and this is why you shouldn't go to college or

Andrew Wilsonokay yeah how typical College behavior isn't um oh I don't know learning higher education but rather be but and burning people's clothes why

Andrew Wilsonis that standard College Behavior just out of curiosity uh it's a balance it's a balance of educ oh yeah it's a balancing act it's the prostitution to

Roseeducation ratio you know it's a balance of education and um having fun with your friends can I add something sure and

Allisonthen we're going to move on from this okay um I think going back cuz you mentioned gender roles right this way if it was uh you know females clothing being burned I feel like they would call Campus Police you know and it'd be a

Allisonlegal thing so I think it would be escalated higher not everybody but I think that the situation would have been different I will say stuff like this happens all the time on my

Brian Atlascampus okay um so going to you uh I think I was asking your single status uh any prospects at all are you currently dating anybody um currently

Brian Atlasjust started talking to somebody like this does that what does it mean to just be talking to somebody how did you mean um phone calls phone calls yeah we match did you match on Bumble correct yeah we

Allisonmatched on Bumble and um we've been just having phone conversation it's very new like probably 3 days have you uh you guys live in the same city yep we both

Allisonlive in Arizona how many phone calls have you had maybe like four seems a I mean seems a little little excessive to me uh we haven't gone on a date yet but

Brian Atlaswe have one plan when I come back to Arizona after this podcast okay all right and uh so single for five years was it just like string after

Allisonstring of yeah I mean if I'm being honest with you I just noticed like a pattern um like 3 to 6 months I would have like kind of a fling and then somehow I would

Allisonget ghosted or it would just end it and then I noticed that after they dated me they ended up you know in a relationship or engaged or have a baby on the way so

Brian Atlasdid you sleep with them sorry um no not like all of them no not all all of them what do you mean so you there was multiple men that you dated for 3 to 6

Allisonmonths and you didn't sleep with them I rather not like disclose that information but honestly not all of them no okay so you're telling me there's some men

Brian Atlasthat you'll sleep with prior to 3 months but other men you wouldn't like I just that doesn't make any sense to me um that's just kind of how it happens like they didn't want to [ __ ] or you

Allisonwere making some men wait and other men you would just [ __ ] on the first date um probably a little bit of both if I'm being honest with you so you would be in

Brian Atlasa why the differing standard there I mean that would if I was was dating a woman who if if I was dating a woman who her previous guy she was in a relationship

Brian Atlaswith she [ __ ] him on the first night and then she's going to make me wait 3 to six months and then the next guy she [ __ ] she [ __ ] on the first night I'm going to be like well why did you make

Brian Atlasme wait 3 months but the last guy you [ __ ] was immediately and then the next guy you [ __ ] was immediately I'd be like what yeah I can understand so is that but that's what you were doing

Allisonbasically well it's been 5 years right so like within that time I've grown up right so I was like 25 recently single after 8ye relationship so I was kind of seeing things a little bit differently

Allisonand now that I'm 30 like going back to I'm dating with intention of like I want something serious I want to get married I want a family so that's kind of how it changed I guess over time cuz I matured

Allisonso are you waiting until marriage um no I mean I I'm not really sure honestly I don't really have a stance on

Selenathat yeah I I had a question of course could it be that um in in that time you um with which every with every

Selenarelationship where there was 3 to 6 months whatever um you went through something and um that's why the next one you probably bounced into it too quickly and you're like no no no I'm going to do

Selenathings differently and then it ended up being the same result no matter what you did yeah um cuz I could kind of see that that's why some were and some weren't people that you slept with right kind of

Selenaa because we're we're kind of like emotional creatures that's why like backtack dating is not great for women because of the emotional toll it can take on us yeah um but that's the

Selenaonly thing I was kind of thinking that maybe why you had some encounters with right what is the word you use Brian you had some Cardinal knowledge Cardinal knowledge and others you did not yeah and I I think you're exactly right I

Allisonmean in between those times of course I took like a couple of months off of dating somebody I mean I I guess I just been single for so long that um I like there was two or three months in between

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Brian Atlasswordless donated $100 good luck and as usual I'm going to bed good night hey swordless thank you man appreciate it uh he he was asking

Adeline Starwe'll come back to the whole single situation what centy are we in what century are we in what century 21st no

Unknown21st 21st I didn't I think so I didn't I don't know you all know okay uh what century are we in I think it's the

Selena21st right I'm going to say 21st 21st yeah I'm going with 21st okay it is the 21st

Brian AtlasCur okay okay wait so okay going back to you so you were saying that you would maybe earlier on in this 25 to 30 single period you

Brian Atlaswould did you have any have any like casual hookups or one night stands anything like that um I rather not disclose but that's a yes I would say I would say

Brian Atlashook okay yeah oh you would say what I would say hookups yes yeah okay and were these like from dating apps or you'd go out to bars and clubs or um I don't

Allisonthink there was they were I think dating apps were kind of like like a little bit just newer I wasn't really on them cuz I was single for so long but I would just um because I moved back to my town where

Brian AtlasI'm from so I was going on dates with people I went to high school with yeah sure so from the guy perspective on this um on one hand um I'm not saying that women shouldn't change for the

Brian Atlasbetter they should and if it's your genuine value shift of okay well previously I was engaging in promiscuity that's not good maybe I should wait longer periods

Brian Atlasbefore having sex with men uh I still kind of look it's your it's your prerogative of course at the end of the day but we as men are also allowed in the

Brian Atlassame way for example if you encountered a man who you you he was kind of uh he wanted to go 50/50 and

Brian Atlashe never took you on any trips and he was um he he wasn't ready to give you monogamy immediately but then you find

Brian Atlasout that in all his past relationships he gave monogamy very Qui quick to all his previous partners he was a provider protector never 50/50 would be he would

Brian Atlasjust always be providing paying for first AIDS but then he says well I'm not doing any of that stuff because I really like you and all those previous girls were just short-term flings and

Brian Atlasmistakes you see how ridiculous that sounds so when girls say well all those guys in the past that I immediately immediately had sex with that was just

Brian Atlasfun they were [ __ ] boys and [ __ ] and they weren't deserving but I really really like you you're a great guy we're going to wait 3 months for you to

Brian Atlasreceive this Con this benefit of having sex you see how ridiculous that sounds yeah I can understand where you're coming from for sure yeah but I do think people can mature and grow up and if

Morganthey make the conscious decision of you know I am going to wait to have sex with this person whether it's until marriage whether it's 6 months whether it's a Year Engagement whatever it is for that person which personally I do believe that waiting for marriage is 10 times

Morganmore beneficial for every single relationship but you can have a past and then also be saved or make that decision of I'm going to date with intention in the future yeah you absolutely can you

Brian Atlasneed to find a guy you need to find a guy who's willing to accept that in my view frankly kind of subpar suboptimal scenario but I also think it's a stand

Brian Atlaswell my personal recommendation though for men is that's not an acceptable scenario so she should she ought to go find a guy who's willing to accept that

Brian Atlasthe 10 20 30 previous men she slept with was instant but when you finally come along after she's had her fun in her 20s now she's 30 all of a sudden she's going to change up and then you're going to

Morganwait 3 months 6 months until marriage is it the same standard for a a man if he slept with 20 or 30 women and then all of a sudden was like you know I want to wait I do not have a double standard

Brian Atlasthis as a woman if you're desirous of having sex early on in a relationship and the man despite his past of promiscuity is like well I've turned a new leaf and I'm

Brian Atlaswaiting until marriage as a woman you're certainly also inclined to say well I don't want to wait to have sex you [ __ ] a bunch of chicks really quickly

Brian Atlasin your past I don't think I don't think women hold that position as frequently as men do but I don't have a double standard on it women can have the exact

Brian Atlassame standard on this as men can and so just to my personal view on this if that was always her standard from the very beginning from the very beginning then

Brian Atlasthen that's a different conversation but if you're going to you [ __ ] a bunch of dudes in your 20s now you're 30 now you're trying it makes the guy feel like a sucker now women are in this damned if

Morganyou do damned if you don't position though because but should woman hold out because I don't think that they should just necessarily we talked about this last time because if a woman is getting into a new relationship with a man and she

Morgandecides to hook up with him and it doesn't work out in her favor then she is adding another man to her body count which is then going to negatively impactor for her next relationship and so I think it's 10 times more valuable

Morganif that woman were to hold out and say you know what I am not ready to have sex with his partner until you get to know them and I think that's just an equal honoring and respecting of each other is this is this kind of like from the view

Brian Atlasof the future potential partner's position like she's adding another body so he's going to judge her in a certain type of way like that or is that for her own self I mean I think it could be both

Brian Atlasyeah because like let's say she's she slept with 50 men and then okay sure okay she has another one after the 51 or she's still like her body Count's

Morganstill going to be a massive disqualifier right I'm saying 10 or under if you at the 10 or under Mark like you know having another intimate relationship does psychologically and hormonally you

Brian Atlasknow impact a woman more than it would impact she should also wait to receive all the benefits that she would all otherwise receive from the man so maybe she she doesn't get any provider

Brian Atlasbenefits because she should wait right just like she's making him wait so so are you saying that a woman can only provide sex that's not there's multiple things I thinkal Bal Prov but when we're

Morganwhat do you mean like if a man is paying for a first date what does the okay yeah you know that is showing her if she is waiting she wants a man that's going to be able to provide okay little things

Brian Atlasthat are shown there okay so men are typically expected to make the first move approach initiate set up the date plan the date uh handle the logistics pay for the date go for the first kiss

Brian Atlasmove things forward from there uh physically masculine man someone who's firing themselves leading dominant so that's what's expected very early in

Brian Atlasupfront from the man so if that that's kind of what men are expected to do then what are women expected to do early on in the courtship process I would say

Morganrespect them show them feminine intentions and just be a feminine woman you know loyalty if you are exclusive talking to that person can you give me examples of that like if if a man is putting in this much effort to go and

Morgansee you you know you're going to do your hair you're going to look nice you're going to give him attention you're going to allow him to be a masculine man you know if he's opening up your door for you if he's going to offering to pick you up you know there's little things we

Morgancan do coffee or something you being a man does do you care about any of those things what things the things that she just mentioned like if you want a feminine woman and I'll use the word like biblically right you know in

Morganmarriage a woman will submit to her husband's Authority because her husband is submitting to the to Christ and is leading the household so you're trusting that they are going to lead you in the future so so as a woman when you're going on a date you know it's not an

Morganinterview you're just getting to know that person and you are appreciative and thankful for them you know being the leader and showing that masculine energy and you there are being feminine and showing your feminine qualities because

Brian Atlasit is an equal balance unit that will become one in the future it just feels like a bamboozle oh okay you previously slept with your past 10 sexual partners but you're not going to take every girl out on a first date you know like if you

Megintentionally are looking to date someone take him on a date I think it's better to wait for a man as well like then you can like have a more intense bond with her anyway or else it's better for you guys I think as well that would

Brian Atlasbe I understand what you're saying though like yes if a woman is sleeping it's a raw deal it's a raw deal I think it's a raw deal oh okay you a month ago you just had a one night

Morganstand you were on some [ __ ] Cruise or a month ago to a first dat understandable but if you're go if you're talking like a woman who is like you know what I have committed life youve been CIT for 3 years maybe you get

Brian Atlasa bit of a pass if you've been celibate for 3 years and then you want to wait fine but don't like don't pull this game of like oh I want to wait three months but then you [ __ ] a guy last week

Andrew Wilsonthat's that's the issue I have with it it's being consistent in your values what is I don't know Andrew you got anything for this oh sorry yeah if you

Andrew Wilsondon't mind I wouldn't mind engaging a bit on this topic with you so uh not you Brian sorry U actually he he has a point so to speak to his his actual point with

Andrew Wilsonno deflection at all what would the tpusa position on this actually be would the tpusa position on this be that if a guy does end up uh you know dating a

Andrew Wilsonchick who was very promiscuous just a month before uh and she has suddenly turned to Christ in her 30s of course that he should date her that that he

Morganshould wait I mean what what what is the prescription here do you think well if if you're going to be charitable to Brian's view no I I actually agree with Brian when it comes to if somebody had

Morganbeen P promiscuous for months prior and then all of a sudden has decided okay you know today's the day I'm going to go on a date and I'm going to save myself I think there's a lot more work that goes into that than just one week of hooking

Morganup with someone and the all then all of a sudden the week later you want to go on a date and be with someone like there's a lot of steps that we're missing here so of course if woman has slept with you know 10 men or however many and then is now going on a first

Morgandate a week later or a month later I do think that's a little early personally I do think that's a little early to be like okay now I want to wait I think as

Andrew Wilsona woman you would need to honestly reevaluate yourself and not date for a little bit and figure that out from the man's perspective that should be a

Andrew Wilsonmassive red flag right you say I was to say yeah no I don't even understand understand what your argument with Brian is about then uh because that's what he's saying that's literally all the guy

Andrew Wilsonis saying is how is this not a red flag that you decided oh look I Finally Found Jesus right as you tend to see many of the porn stars even who come through

Andrew Wilsonthis show who suddenly find Jesus they continue to do porn interestingly enough but they claim that they did anyway are we supposed to give an ex or excuse

Andrew Wilsontheir past 100 sex partners uh just because now they have and claim that they found salvation 100% you consider that a massive red flag no it's a 100% a red flag 100% because it's it's a lack

Morganof judgment and you know I do believe that Jesus Christ does save us for our sins but I don't think it's going to be an overnight switch of one day you're like the day you become saved the next day all of a sudden Clean Slate well it is a clean slate but it's not like the

Morgannext day you're going to jump into a relationship I mean this is a year long years and years and years long process so if somebody has decided to save themselves like let's say 5 years later and then you become into a monogamous relationship let's say you're an ex porn

Morganstar whatever it is but no I'm not disagreeing with Brian if looking at the timelines of a one week to a month like no that's very reasonable and is well then I guess you're going to have to

Morganlook at Brian and say Brian you were right you're right under yeah I'll give you two years I'll give you two years if

Morganit's if a if a woman has waited 2 to three years and has not engaged and has

Morgantruly dedic ated her life to her new self then different scenario but I will give you that you're

Brian Atlasright with the red flags I was agreeing with that is that is that a check me check me no check me well statistically I guess statistically what are the statistics on

Rosethis but go ahead well statistically if you're looking at like her history um of like past hookups and dating and then she claims she seeks

Rosesalvation it's something to like I feel like something to look into but at the same time um according to like if we're getting into religious purposes like we

Rosecannot cast stones at the person like you know let the let the would you date a guy who's shorter than you would I date a guy

TTS Donation Readerum I'm not sure actually grid One Motorsports donated $100 to skew this as a man [ __ ] until I was 32 when I dated

TTS Donation Readerwith intent to marry and met my wife within the first year we had sex the first night and have not been apart since when you know you know yeah I mean I can speak from my own

Brian Atlaspersonal experience also grid one I mean I've had a 5-year relationship two-year relationship I've had other long-term I had a n 9 Monon one-year relationship um

Brian Atlasmost of these were not like let's let let's go on the dates for 3 months and then finally have no we had sex

Brian Atlasrelatively quickly second third date and uh yeah so thank you good one for the anecdote wait so you're saying something

Rosesomething about well considering a woman's past promiscuity is casting stones and you're not all Stones I'm saying it's like take you can take it into account but I'm saying like let He

RoseWho blame blameless cast the next Stone which what it's biblical yeah yeah so what's your point at the I'm saying are you suggesting men should not consider

Brian Atlaswomen who've slept with a hundred men previously as suboptimal part no I'm not saying I'm not saying that they they can consider whoever they

Rosewant however they want I'm saying like to judge them openly verbally is like well they're not going to throw a stone can they take their Stone and go home yeah yeah yeah 100% that's that's all

Brian Atlasthat's all he's saying right that's all I'm saying that's but that's what I'm arguing I don't really I'm not going to like have a laugh and be like oh you [ __ ] [ __ ] no it's just it to me it's

Brian Atlaslike me advising other men don't date those kinds of women and for me personally I would not date that kind of woman and that's totally that's the extent that's the extent of my

Brian Atlascommentary oh% I don't make it a a mission to go out of my way and be like look look at this particular woman who's a SL I don't do that now in my own

Brian Atlasassessment I'm I'm of course thinking well I don't think this would be a good person to date but that's really the extent of it I'm not going to go on the offensive and be belligerent and attack you for it but I will advise other men

Brian Atlasthis is a suboptimal dating Choice dating move and for me personally I wouldn't I wouldn't be about it that's totally fair that's totally valid what

Brian Atlasare you doing what the what was that um I have ADHD I'm sorry so good it's all good but um look I mean I think it's

Brian Atlaswonderful if women are choosing to move in less promiscuous ways if you you know uh try to prioritize long-term relationships I think that's great but do realize even if you do make that uh

Brian Atlasproactive choice to change up the way you you move that men are still going to consider perhaps your past actions and behavior and even even though you've changed still preclude you from uh

Brian Atlaswanting to pursue you for a serious relationship or any kind of relationship and uh in that scenario though I can just tell I'm just sort of explaining the guy's perspective here of well

Brian Atlasbecause for example we had I'm not going to expose her but we had a Christian girl come on the show and she said multiple times that she was waiting for marriage I think she she'd been on the show twice and then she came back on the

Brian Atlasshow and she said well I'm waiting till marriage to have sex she came back on the show and she I mean I give her credit for at least admitting this she

Brian Atlassaid I had a slip up I had sex with somebody and then it'd be very hard it would be very frustrating for me for

Brian Atlasexample if I had been dating her in between that time and then but she was like oh I'm GNA wait and then I find out like a week after we break up for example after I dated you for 3 months

Brian Atlasand despite you know my desires to have sex you're like no no no I respected it and then as soon as we break up you go and [ __ ] another guy I would look that's that's your prerogative but I'd be like

Brian Atlaswell did you really think that did you really were those really your values and then similarly if I was about to pursue a woman who

TTS Donation Readersaid B donated $100 you guys are missing the issue here it's not about being Christian now it's that withholding sex is a tool of

Morganmanipulation Chad gets the cheeks up front good guy has to wait for seconds oh which which I agree I don't think women should use sex as a tool for manipulation 100% a woman shouldn't

Brian Atlaswithhold sex within marriage personally well he's even talking before before that before if you're going on dates well they're they're using it for compliance or leverage to secure um to

Morgansecure a long-term relationship or to secure uh monogamy I don't think it's worth it what do you mean for the guy or no for well either way I just I don't

Brian Atlasthink you should sleep together before but okay sure um I'm trying to remember where I was what I was saying oh and just the last thing I would also kind of

Brian Atlasfeel like uh getting a a bit of a raw deal if I just met a girl and she told me that a month ago she had a one night stand with a guy but now that she's met

Brian Atlasme oh okay I'm waiting until marriage I'd be like my dude a month ago you [ __ ] some dude in the club like that's

Brian Atlasridiculous good for you but I feel like I'm getting a raw deal here so goodbye like that's it's not like it's not me

Brian Atlasfeeling entitled to anything it's me like okay I I feel like a sucker in this situation so this isn't this isn't a fit so

Rosewould there be like nothing else you were getting from the relationship me besides that what do you mean cuz normally like when you consider a relationship you consider like multiple parts of it not just the sexual end like

Brian Atlaswhat if sure oh you can obviously women offer a great deal outside of sex um what if there was something else that you like found in her like another quality that you liked she'd basically have to be a slave

Brian Atlasfor me to accept this very suboptimal scenario where I'm essentially a sucker for a month ago cuz this is the scenario I gave a month ago she had a one night

Brian Atlasstand with some dude and now she's telling me she wants to wait 3 months 6 months or until marriage to have sex she's going to have to basically be

Brian Atlasa slave for me she's got to clean my house and [ __ ] she's got to [ __ ] vacuum she's got to clean the do some Mr

MorganMiyagi [ __ ] paint the paint the fence wax on wax wax on wax my car and [ __ ] in this suboptimal scenario yes I I understand

Adeline Starwhere you're coming from I also don't think any sane woman who wants to date you would say oh hey by the way I just got banged two weeks

Adeline Starago but I want to wait with you any sane woman will not tell you that so this is a far out hypothetical that probably

Adeline Starwill never Happ be honest it's not about honesty it's about like just again y'all are going to love me for this discretion right you don't need to know anything I

Brian Atlaswhat I did two weeks ago you to know about the DAT I do I do need to know why do you need to know because if I find out if we're let's say we get engaged

Brian Atlasand you [ __ ] lied to me about that [ __ ] it's [ __ ] over goodbye I don't care I don't care if the wedding is [ __ ] planned and if you

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you should never [ __ ] you shouldn't lie to a guy like that what you what are you doing she's just re helping wait was there a slip was there a slip no she's just

Adeline Starlooking out I don't think okay was there I don't I didn't see a nipp so I was just making sure okay so what I I know I think I I'm just

Adeline StarI'm just having fun so I think it's a it's a really far out hypothetical situation that no woman's going to go on a date with you and then tell you that

Adeline Starthey did something two weeks ago and if she wants to wait for 3 months then like yeah it's a shitty situation that's your choice to pursue that or not so well it

Brian Atlasthe the thing is is like I assume on this first date there would be some conversation about you know uh where our values align or don't

Brian Atlasalign when it comes to the rapidity with which we would this sounds I'm framing this in you know when it comes to do you want to have sex do you want to wait not

Brian Atlasexactly in those words and so if on that date she says well I'm waiting till marriage but in like the scenario you gave two weeks ago she [ __ ] some

Adeline Stardude uh you know that would be I'd find that interesting it it would suck that would be like okay cool like that's not really in alignment with what you just told me and then that's your choice to

Adeline Starpursue do that or not and that's what she was saying is it takes time to kind of make those changes and you have to also and like that girl who said she had a slip up it takes time to implement

Brian Atlasthese changes and these choices and these habits and so so yeah but you're okay so is your advice then to you you ought to Omit or lie to men and not

Adeline Starreveal no that's not my advice my my my stance is it's so hypothetical and it's so far-fetched that like most girls won't say that here's an example right if I'm actually interested in a girl one

Brian Atlasof the questions I might ask her when first meeting her and screening her out is when's the last time you've had I mean the phrasing might be might change so vulgar when did you get banged last

Brian Atlasno I said when's the last time you've had sex with someone that's a question I might ask because I want to know you [ __ ] a guy last week not interested yeah and that's your choice and that's okay right but so would you

Adeline Starrecommend a woman in that situation to lie no no she needs to say like okay you know like she needs to be forthcoming I'm not saying you need to lie I'm just saying like most women wouldn't have

Andrew Wilsonthat kind of switch up or would say that that's all I'm saying this then wouldn't it be wiser wouldn't it be wiser advice then to say that if this is something which is new to you if you've just made this switch over in your life that you

Adeline Starshould ease off of dating for a while agree I whole heartly wholeheartedly agree with that yeah you should wait if that becomes untied is it like no it won't untie it's just I got animated

Brian Atlaswhen I was talking to you and she was just like okay let's just if you can just be cautious of that I will I will okay so well w we I wonder if there's

Brian Atlasany other maybe I could give another analogy someone recommended to me there's a handbag analogy that's good for this one I forgot what it

Brian Atlasis um that's now now people are gonna I'm making sure there's no nip slip guys I'm people are like oh he's trying to take a peek huh okay we're good all right let

Brian Atlasme read this we have can we get the rating started in wife scale please okay so he's talking about the rating 1 to

Brian Atlas10 uh wife scale I guess what do you rate yourself on the wife scale one out of one to 10 what is the wife scale like are you wife material material on this

Adeline StarSC of 1 to 10 that's what he wants so we'll go around the table really quick on this go ahead wife scale yes absolutely I I have full capabilities of becoming a wife oh

Andrew Wilsonno are are I mean you're you are a if correct me if I'm wrong you are a sex worker right yeah currently why would

Adeline Staryou why why would you think that you would make a good wife and just because I have a certain profession does not take away from my ability to care love

Adeline Starand provide something that my partner is seeking so well the science would disagree if you ever heard of a phenomenon called pair bonding now tell

Andrew Wilsonme are you aware that the less sexual partners a woman has the more the easier it is and the more likely it is that she can pair bond with her first sexual

Andrew Wilsonpartner okay but that doesn't mean that I can't bond with my person now well it's true you could be the exception to the rule but wouldn't it throw up a red flag if it was if it was known that the

Andrew Wilsonmore sexual partners a woman had the less likely it would be that uh she would actually be able to bond with you for instance uh the more men you sleep with more likely you are to be divorced

Andrew Wilsonfor instance uh the more men you sleep with the more likely you are to step out of a long-term relationship all of those things are true and that's probably due to this pair bonding thing so why would

Adeline Stara man want to trust a sex worker to be a wife maybe he has also been a part of the industry and understands and also

Adeline Starthere are men who make allowances or Grace um for women and their past there are men out there and it's not a subpar

Adeline StarChoice it is just a personal choice and as far as pair bonding goes um I believe that that it is up to the woman and her

Adeline Starown intuition and her own body and her own ability to connect with oneself when it comes to connecting with another partner is you have to know yourself you have to know deep down like you can get

Adeline Starall scientifical you can bring me statistics but all it boils down to is the woman's selfawareness and the connection that she has with herself I don't care don't grammar police me I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust making a point here you can know yourself I I was just I was just ious um as we get into more of the scientifical data here if we can maybe back up just a

Andrew Wilsonlittle bit okay yes and and we can and we can look at this objectively uh if your son came to you and said Mom I'm going to marry a sex worker what would your advice to him be follow your dreams

Adeline Starmy son my advice to my son if he wanted to pursue a sex worker was does she have an

Adeline Starexit plan what is y's long-term goals do you support this and if not what like what is that trajectory going to look like that it's all circumstantial and

Adeline Starthere's no just like copy and paste answer to this it's about what one another's motives are and if it's not a good fit then it's not a good fit and

Andrew Wilsonit's not going to be beneficial or healthy for everyone now let's say he came home with Betty Sue and he loved Betty Sue and Betty Sue had had no sexual partners and she was just head

Andrew Wilsonover heels for him and so was a sex worker at the same time and their prospects looked about the same to you which one would you recommend your boy Go

Andrew Wilsonwith whatever he feels or no what would you recommend not what person I know we already know his feelings he can't decide mom what should I do Mom should I

Adeline Stargo with the prostitute or with Betty Sue which one would you tell him I would look at either one's girl either girl's ambition and what they

Adeline Starwant to do with their life because Betty Sue can be a leech and that prostitute or whoever it is can be self-sufficient and want to add value veterinarians they both have about the same IQ and they

Adeline Starboth have about the same resources to go to veterinarian school if you had to choose which one would you tell your boy he should go with whoever is going to add the most value to his life and if

Adeline Starthe prostitute or whoever it is can give him more life advice or more knowledge that's going to help him in the long

Andrew Wilsonterm then so be it and which one would you just intuitively say without looking at any scientific data at all if your boy asked you which one do you think

Adeline Starwill be more loyal to me which one would you think you would tell him would be more loyal was more likely to be more loyal to him I believe it's all about their own person personal choice to

Adeline Starcommit so yeah I mean you you can look at someone's past Behavior you can look at all of that but it's about the commitment and the now and the choice that they're making so Betty Sue may

Adeline Starhave she may have not been with anyone else and that might motivate her to pursue other options as opposed to this prostitute who has been with several

Morganpeople and knows what else is out there knows that my son is a good man and that she is winning the lottery because she has exper experienced all of these other things but sexual experience means

Morgannothing in the dating world because if your son hypothetical son is going to a relationship with a sex worker which

TTS Donation Readerboth of you are the Bron donated $100 left to right Morgan wife F purple jacket three not a wife already a wife

TTS Donation Readerangry a cups four and not a wife Kart cardi B4 queen of Australia six wife Bunny Ranch thought for leche Bang three

Brian Atlasnot a wife yo this guy's gun for me this guy is gun for me bro we have one more coming through and then Morgan will uh finish with her uh question there thank

Brian Atlasyou kdf thank you the briss sance oh uh so the the guys before me weren't good enough for you to settle down with but they still got to F now I'm the man of

Brian Atlasyour dreams but I don't even get what the bums got make it make sense yeah pretty I mean that's going back to what I was talking talking about before um so women will like it's just funny what

Brian Atlaswith that like they'll give the sexual benefit to these you'll say they're [ __ ] boys they were jerks [ __ ] not deserving of it and then the guy who is deser who is

Brian Atlasactually deserving of it he's the good guy whatever he's the one who gets to wait men are waking up to this and seeing that's kind of a raw deal and uh yeah uh I just make this last Point real quick I'm almost almost done okay and

Andrew Wilsonthen we'll have just curious just curious on this just back to you real quick um how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning oh

Adeline Starme yes you oh I mean I had breakfast okay I thought you did thank you was that a job what was the point of

TTS Donation Readerthat question codon donated $100 she would tell him neither because her degenerate ass will be desperate to keep the only man in her life to

Morganherself she would tell me either because her be I it's like the my my hypothetical Andrew do you want to explain that really

Andrew Wilsonquick uh yeah so um th this question and it's um it's more of a meme it doesn't really have any scientific Foundation at all but it is kind of funny if you ask a

Andrew Wilsonperson what they had for breakfast this morning you're engaging or How would how would they feel if they hadn't had breakfast this morning morning what you're doing is you're engaging in a hypothetical and you're trying to

Andrew Wilsonexamine what they think they would feel like had they not eating breakfast but there's many people who can't engage in hypotheticals and so they just respond with but I did have breakfast this

Andrew Wilsonmorning and so that's that's the point of the question interesting interesting Morgan you had a question and you and you just to be clear you did have breakfast this morning I I don't

Morganunderstand okay all I hear is breakfast right now so let's keep it rolling okay the point I was making is that if there is a woman who has a significantly

Morganhigh body count a sex worker and then a woman who does not statistically morally physically you can know your inner being as much as you want but if you have

Morganslept with 100 plus people or even 50 plus people that woman is going to most likely cheat on her husband she is going to want to divorce her husband she is

Morgangoing to want to leave in that situation because sexual experience means nothing you can sleep around with as many people as you want in your past life and then going into a marriage but that sexual experience is not actually offering

Morgananything to the marriage other than her actually being insecure in that marriage and always constantly comparing and he was Andrew was bringing up pair bonding and it's the oxytocin it's the hormones in a woman's body that is being released

Morganthat when you are engaging in intercourse with a man you are being bond to that person and then creating the in ability to be able to connect with future partners for a longer term

Lexirelationship but I've also heard people being like like older people being like like 30s and their 40s being like I've only slept with my wife and and this is

Lexiwhy we're breaking up and it didn't go as planned and like I wish I got to experience more people when I was younger and I feel like who says that the man or the woman um a lot of the times the

Morganman a lot of the times the man which I mean sure that maybe like a 5 to 10% of I don't think it's a to 10% of marriage there is a significant large

Morgangap between women who have a lower body count versus women who have a higher body count in the happiness in marriage success in marriage and divorce rate in our country I mean 53% of marriages end

Selenain divorce in America and 80% are initiated by the woman I I'd like to add a little bit um also the multiple

Selenarelationships multiple the sexual relationships whatever um you're also practicing to divorce because you're never committing to anything you're just

Selenalearning how to break up and so the more partners that you're having the more likely is it is that you're going to divorce you'd have to work 10 times as hard to stay in that relationship had you been somebody who had multiple

Megrelationships um I have a question can I ask you something sure um how do you not um have feelings people that you have sex with that's a that's a really good question um and it's pretty common um

Adeline Starit's about compartmentalizing and it's a choice so yeah that's that's it's compartmentalizing do you find it

Adeline Stardifficult to do that is it e no no because at the end of the day like it's uh a job and it's like okay are like I'm not going to chalk it up to anything

Adeline Starbecause it's its own field and there's no right comparison and I would be doing Injustice if I try to make a comparison but it's about compartmentalizing and it

Adeline Staris the choice to um kind of turn on those feelings and those connections and if you are someone who does not have that ability then maybe that's not the

Adeline Starright field or maybe you need to get in touch with yourself a little bit more before you start to engage in promiscuous activity do you think it's gotten easier to compartmentalize the

Adeline Starmore you've been in the industry um I would say I've compart yes and I I would say yes um it's something that you have

Adeline Starto have kind of already and you have to have that relationship with yourself that's why this industry this profession is not for everybody and that's why so many people do have problems that's why

Adeline Staryou do hear these stories is because the women themselves have not done that self work to be able to differentiate what so that means that it's you as you go it's

Andrew Wilsonbecoming more and more common for you to be able to not pair bond with your sexual partners it's a choice that's why I believe that this whole pair B well wait wait is loving a person a choice like

Adeline Starloving a man that you fall in love with is that a choice or is it not a choice you have I mean you can have control over your own feelings in your

Adeline Starown emotions as much as you want so I can feel something for her and I can feel that strong connection and I can say no I don't want to pursue

Andrew Wilsonthat because that will not honor me in these other ways but when asked most women will say and this is you can you again you can look up data on this as well that they don't have a choice as to

Andrew Wilsonwho it is they're attracted to and who it is that they love of course uh the reason for this is hair bonding so if you're saying I can now compartmentalize

Andrew Wilsonthat and and you're basically saying now it can control who it is that I fall in love with and don't fall in love with it's not even a choice now right or now it is a choice where whereas before it

Andrew Wilsonwould not have been wouldn't you consider this to be kind of a push back against this idea that um you know maybe you're not so great with the parir

Adeline Starbonding if you could just turn it off like that like why couldn't you just turn it off like that with your boyfriend too cuz I choose not to you

Adeline Starchoose not to dive deeper into that so I I mean and some encounters are I'm going to it's a progression right so when the

Adeline Starfirst time you have sex with someone you might feel like really really into them and then the next time it's it's not really there or you might have sex with a first for with a person and it's good

Adeline Starit's great but you don't feel that connection but the next time after time has progressed you feel a deeper connection it's it's all circumstantial

Andrew Wilsonyeah but but what I'm saying to you is is that if most women don't have a choice let's say on a biological level they fall head over heels for the person that they engage with the very first

Andrew Wilsontime in a sexual romantic relationship their bio their biological Drive is telling them to do that you're saying not mine I've got a choice I can just

Adeline Starturn that [ __ ] off how would that not be a red flag to a guy wouldn't the guy be like you could just turn that on and off I mean that then that's just I mean

Andrew Wilsonnot everyone's going to have that ability and I mean it's it's what you decided to do right that's my whole point not everyone's going to have that ability but women who've had many many

Andrew Wilsonmany sexual partners especially who are in the porn industry I could see them having that ability very easily right they could just turn that [ __ ] off

Roseyeah so I I don't it seems like that would be um like a massive red flag right well are you if you're in a relationship are you able to control it

Roseas much as it is opposed to like say one of your clients or anything like that control what do you have more I don't have clients I have co-performers and

Adeline Starco-stars um how many scenes have you done I've done some some okay yeah um

Adeline Starso um to answer your your question is for me sometimes I have to you know like with my partner it's sometimes I want to

Adeline Stargo and I can dive deeper into that and then sometimes I just want that sexual satisfaction from my partner so not everyone all over the world every time they have sex is going to feel that deep

Adeline Starconnection with their partner every single time and it has to be the right moment the right time and so if like you you and your husband are horny and wherever and you only have a certain

Adeline Staramount of time you're not going to be able to have that whole like special interaction that special feeling that magical moment whenever you're crunched for time so I think it's it applies all

Adeline Staracross the board is like you have to actively seek that and feel that in that moment and again here we're going to move on um we the original question was going around the table what do you rate

Brian Atlasyourself one out of 10 on the wife scale go ahead well I'm not looking to be a wife right now so that's so right now what are you on the wife scale well I'm

Lexinot looking to be a wife right now so I have no wife qualities I work all the time I work too much so okay let's say

Brian Atlaszero then um 10 10 okay uh zero you're zero because of the stripping yeah

Roseokay I think I'm decently high up there on the wife scale I feel like especially with my current partner now you want to give us a

Selenanumber um I'll go with nine okay my husband would say 10 but I would actually say like an 89 but I say that because I just

Selenahad a baby so like um wely duties like sure in the intimacy and stuff has been a little on the Lesser side right now yeah I say nine cuz there's always room for I feel like some of my duties I I

Andrew Wilsonhaven't been performing 100% cuz of newborn okay oh wait that's not that's not a mark against you yeah that's not a mark against you that you just had a baby and so you're exhausted and you're

Andrew Wilsonstaying up all night taking care of your baby they're crying you have a mixed feeding schedule that's good wiing that's right that's Point that's Point's added right I was thinking that when the

Andrew Wilsonquestion was asked I was like I'm not really like doing well now does your husband have to get up in the middle of the night and go do any of that um he does we um oh well then that's yeah that's netive numbers but other than

Selenathat other than that you were doing great actually like so W uh with the pumping um he decided like look you've been getting up so much I will take on like just leave me a bottle and I'll get

Selenaup with her because I thought you were going to say he was going to pump milk like I Meet the Parents you're going to milk yeah no no no no

Selenano so like we we we came you know a routine yeah that that has worked for both of us it's his first kid so he was glad to do so what about you yeah I

Allisonwould say a nine nine and the wife wait you're a nine in the wife I would say so yeah you sure about that yeah I mean I have I just have a

AllisonCaring Heart and I feel like I would be a great wife and I'm great with children and I want a family and that's like where my mindsets at right now that I want to be a wife the reason I'm a bit

Andrew Wilsonis incredulous the right is that the right word Andrew is that the right word incredulous you said you've been that would be the correct context for the word yes incredulous I also Brian am very incredulous but I'll let you lead

Brian Atlasoff here you say you're a nine in the wife department but you've been single for 5 years so the guys aren't

Allisonseeing the wife maybe she's waiting for the right guy to give it too give the wife quties too yeah I'm just you know I want the

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