DEBATE REMATCH! DATE ! DRAMA! BIG DAY! BIG NEWS! REACTS! CHILL STREAM! | Whatever Wednesday #4
Date: 2025-10-16
Duration: 4h 39m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Shona Alan(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:48
IntroBrian introduces Shona as returning guest for debate-date format
01:20:36
Key MomentBrian's old social experiment: almost no women said yes to sex. Shona does female version: near 100% yes rate.
02:41:30
QuotePasty George offers iPhone Air for makeup removal; Shona refuses
02:52:00
Key MomentShona reveals family wealth: father was energy company exec, $60K/yr private school
Topics Discussed
00:22:26
Hassan Dog Shocking
React to Hassan Piker shocking his dog on stream.
00:35:00
Sunday Show Recap
Feral woman who said Brian should get 'Charlie Kirked.'
01:16:54
Old Social Experiment Videos
Brian's 2015 'asking girls for sex' videos. Shona does female version with near 100% yes rate.
01:36:00
Beauty Standards Debate
Who settles more in couples? Do women face stricter beauty standards?
02:32:24
Shona Makeup Removal Refused
$500 bounty + iPhone Air offered; Shona refuses. Shows without-makeup photos instead.
02:51:00
Shona Family Background
Father: former energy exec, multi-million payout. Private school $60K/yr.
04:18:00
USAID Birth Control Destruction
Trump/USAID contraceptives in Belgium warehouse sent to waste disposal.
Transcript
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02:56:27
Brian Atlasbe independent. A man can be independent. Like >> Well, I mean, when it comes to propaganda, can I ask you this? What do you think is the more prevalent
02:56:35
Brian Atlasnarrative in society today? Uh, hey women, put off marriage, family, kids, go to college, focus on your career,
02:56:46
Brian Atlasthen that stuff can come later. or hey women um >> focus on marriage, family, kids and
02:56:56
Brian Atlas>> or put career like career should be less of a focus or no focus like what do you think why the camera really likes to focus on you >> I don't know why um
02:57:08
Brian Atlas>> I think there there's a lot of people >> what do you think is the more prevalent narrative in society >> I mean it would depend like what context
02:57:18
Shona Alanlike where you're looking but overall in the United States there is a lot of there is a lot of the the like the message sent like oh yeah like as a woman have your own stability focus on
02:57:30
Shona Alanyour career I don't think that should look I would say that too like if if you wish to have a career go for that um and like be in a position where you can like
02:57:42
Shona Alanmake your own decisions um but if you want to be if you want to like be in the home and be domestic, then I think do that too. I would not say to a woman um like don't focus on
02:57:54
Shona Alanlike having a family, don't focus on finding a man, just focus on like developing your own career. I would not say either or. >> Yeah. But I would say the mainstream narrative is
02:58:05
Brian Atlas>> build a career first >> towards more towards career less towards family children. And so I do think that there's programming that
02:58:16
Brian Atlas>> I don't think there I don't think we should push women in either direction. >> Well, would you acknowledge that we are currently pushing them in the direction
02:58:24
Brian Atlasof college career? That's the primary focus. That's going to be the primary um >> fulfillment in your life is it's not going to be family and kids and
02:58:36
Brian Atlasgrandkids. It's going to be your career. You're going to be a project manager at uh I don't know what's a freaking kind of lame mid-tier company. I don't know.
02:58:48
Brian AtlasYou're going to be a project manager for H&R Block and that's going to be your fulfillment as a woman sitting at a desk Monday through Friday. >> I disagree with that. No one should tell you what your fulfillment is going to
02:59:00
Shona Alanbe. That should be something you figure out. I think there should be programming that says that the fulfillment would be family and children.
02:59:11
Shona Alan>> Again, like my overarching belief is do what you want to do as long as it's not hurting others. If you want to focus on having a career as a woman, go focus on having a career. If
02:59:22
Brian Atlasyou want to have kids, you want to get married, you want to be a homebody, go do that. >> Yeah, women should have the choice to do it. And uh that's fine. But I think that
02:59:32
Shona Alanthere should be a greater push to elevate the family and to elevate >> but what if a woman does not want to be a mother? It's just like I don't want to have kids one day. That is not something
02:59:45
Shona Alanthat would fulfill me. The idea that's fine there's like I have a friend who literally like she does not really like children. She does not like babies. The idea of that just like really repels her. I don't think she should think like oh fine I'll be a woman because it's I
02:59:57
Brian Atlasmean I mean I'll I'll be a mother because that's what will fulfill me according to everyone else. >> Well I think in today in today's society especially uh this is not what your
03:00:08
Brian Atlasfriend thinks is not at all in common especially among young women there is a tendency for this to change as you get as you get older. So that for example, you'd probably acknowledge like most 18,
03:00:18
Brian Atlas19 year olds, they're not really focused on like finding their long-term person and like starting a family and having kids, right? They might even be like, no, e, I never want to have kids. Even when I was younger, I was like, I don't
03:00:32
Brian Atlasknow if I want to have kids. I probably don't want to have kids. But my my perspective has shifted quite a bit. So even if it's, you know, when you're 18, it's like, h ew, kids. I think for a lot of women, that does change
03:00:44
Brian Atlas>> like eventually. Yeah, it does. >> But but uh to be fair, yeah, there's some women who they think it when they're 18, they think it when they're 25. They think it when they're 30, 35. There are definitely women who throughout their throughout their whole
03:00:57
Brian Atlaslife. They just they know they don't want to have kids. I'm f that's fine. >> That's what I'm saying. That's your That's what you should do then. You shouldn't have kids. you are that woman who doesn't want to have kids.
03:01:09
Brian Atlas>> Although the only thing I would call into question there, I think people can through reason and they maybe they have assessed themselves and then they've just said, you know what, like I think
03:01:21
Shona Alanthere are some people that probably shouldn't have kids and if you've come to the determination, >> I think being like having kids is actually like almost like a privilege. Like it's a beautiful thing and you should be in a situation where you're prepared you're prepared to do that and
03:01:33
Brian Atlasgive your kids the right things. Yes, I I agree. But I do think some that there's probably some women, maybe a lot of women who have arrived, even into their mid to
03:01:45
Brian Atlaslate 20s, 30s, who have arrived at the conclusion that they don't want to have kids. And I do think some of that is programming. I think they arrived there through propaganda. >> I don't agree we should program women to
03:01:58
Brian Atlasnot want to have kids. Then then we're on the same page about that. Now there again there's some people who are just like you know what I don't want to have kids and they probably shouldn't have kids. That's totally fine. >> I don't I don't agree with the whole programming thing. I think
03:02:11
Shona Alan>> what do you mean? >> Like I don't agree with us telling I don't No, I don't agree with >> if like if that should happen. I don't agree with saying to a woman like to a woman >> you should have kids cuz this is going
03:02:23
Shona Alanto be the right thing for you or you shouldn't have kids because you should just reject that. >> By the way, Pasty, where's the proposition? Pasty he says under one condition if the
03:02:35
SPEAKER_02condition is met on stream. What's pasty? I you answer. What's the condition, man? >> Uh-oh.
03:02:44
SPEAKER_02>> Michael 1,977 donated $30. I'm a therapist and read people well. This girl is a bit dangerous. She seems manipulative,
03:02:55
SPEAKER_02trying too hard to get your attention and approval. thinks this show is about her and is a bit narcissistic. >> You want to respond to that? I have a question on this, but go ahead. >> I mean, I I certainly don't think I'm narcissistic.
03:03:07
Shona Alan>> Just a little closer to the mic. >> I certainly don't think I'm narcissistic. I believe I could point out many flaws within myself. I I think >> What are your flaws? Tell us. He's the main character.
03:03:18
Shona Alan>> Tell us your flaws. >> I think I'm very I'm very stubborn. >> Stubborn. >> I'm I'm such a procrastinator. >> Oo, procrastinator. Okay. Um, >> what else? Have you ever uh >> I think I'm kind of annoying sometimes. >> You're annoying?
03:03:31
Shona Alan>> Yeah. >> Like like accidentally or intentionally? >> Unintent both. >> Both. >> Um, how so? How are you annoying? >> I have soul sucking succubus. Succubus
03:03:44
Brian Atlaseyes. >> The hell does that? >> Soul sucking succubus eyes. Oh, wait. That's weird. Wait, hold on. Let me do something. Uh, what else? What are the What's the other
03:03:56
Shona Alanstuff? >> Um, I think >> Oh, >> I think my >> That's probably better. >> I think sometimes I can I should be
03:04:08
Shona Alankind. I I should be kinder. Like I can be a little judgmental sometimes and I'm trying to work on that. >> A succubus judge. >> No. >> Have you judged me? >> Well, cuz I No. >> Oh, >> I make a conscious effort.
03:04:21
Shona Alan>> Like you judge other women. You're like, "Ew." Well, not other like >> I wouldn't have worn that. >> I just Well, I said that about the girl with the leopard print body. >> That is true. You did say that [ __ ] >> I need to be kinder. Maybe. Oh, of I'm
03:04:33
Shona Alannot a succubus. I'm not a demon. She's a brat. >> Have you ever had therapy? >> No. >> You being honest? >> Never had therapy. If I had therapy, I
03:04:46
Brian Atlaswouldn't have any problem admitting I've just never gone to therapy. >> Ever been diagnosed with anything? >> Mental health disorders? No. >> Yeah. depression, anxiety. >> I was definitely depressed in middle school. >> You were depressed in middle school.
03:04:58
Shona Alan>> I I never got like a diagnosis, but I was I was extremely depressed in middle school. >> Why is that?
03:05:07
Shona Alan>> Just a rough time for me. >> Just like very low. >> How old were you? What? 13, 14? >> 12. >> It was a rough time. >> I was just like very like um >> like friends self-esteem.
03:05:18
Shona Alan>> I felt lonely. Didn't get along with my mom still. Oh, yeah. Well, no. I'm I'm way past that, though. But like, no, I don't have any like diagnosises of anything.
03:05:33
Brian Atlas>> Bipolar? No. Bipolar? >> No. >> What? Have you ever done anything toxic in like a romantic sense? Like, have you ever slashed >> a guy's tires or anything like that or got >> No, I remember. I've never I've never had a relationship or anything.
03:05:46
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But you've like hung out with guys, right? Or didn't you have like a situationship or something or >> There was one bad thing I did. >> Yeah. What did you do? >> There was a guy. Gosh,
03:06:00
Shona Alan>> get ready. >> He was Look, I want to say preface before this that I I've learned my lesson and I don't agree with this and this is not the person I am, okay? >> But I did talk to a guy who was going to
03:06:12
Shona Alandate break up with his girlfriend but still was in a relationship with her at that point. Like I I talked to a guy who was >> Oh, you knew. So you knew he was dating somebody. >> Yeah. >> But you said he was going to break up
03:06:25
Brian Atlaswith her or >> he he's like, "Oh, he's like, "Oh, I'm going to break up with her soon." >> I mean, it was it was just within that time. >> Felicitate. You helped felicitate the cheating basically. >> Well, at that point, the only like
03:06:38
Brian Atlascheating was like talking. >> How old were you, though? He's like what, 16 or something? >> 17. >> Like a guy in your high school or something or Yeah.
03:06:49
Brian Atlas>> Wow. >> Toxic. So toxic. >> Not a home. Not a home. But so okay, you haven't really >> Not a home wrecker. >> You haven't really had like a bunch of like dating relationship experience. Let's say you like finally get a
03:07:02
Brian Atlasboyfriend. You've been dating for two years >> and he cheats on you. Have you ever thought like, okay, what would I do in that situation? Like >> if a guy cheated on me, I'd leave immediately. >> Like But would you do revenge? >> No, I would not. I would simply
03:07:15
Shona Alan>> burn his clothes or some crazy [ __ ] like that. >> I would get the deep primal urge to, but I wouldn't act on it. >> You'd think about it. >> I wouldn't actually consider doing it, but like in my heart, I would I would like I would be like, I wish I could just do all like burn his clothes and slash his tires, but I wouldn't.
03:07:28
Brian Atlas>> Can you do that with your hair? >> What? >> Like on this side, your your left side? >> I feel like it needs to be padded down a little bit in the back. It's like puffed out. You see that >> right here?
03:07:38
Shona Alan>> Here. My bad. >> See, I'm looking out. No, I mean in that situation Thank you. He's making sure my hair looks okay. Um, in that situation, I would focus on just bettering my own
03:07:49
Shona Alanlife and like removing him from my mind cuz I think like not giving a [ __ ] is like the best revenge, you know? >> I think so. >> Like if someone if if like someone like does all these things to like get revenge on you like these these silly things, then that just shows you that
03:08:02
Brian Atlasthey're like immature and not over you in my opinion. >> Like the best thing to do is just not give a [ __ ] >> to move on. >> Move on. Better yourself. It's the best to revenge and it's also the best thing for you like in terms of your
03:08:14
Brian Atlas>> Oh, do I need roller? >> Do I probably need some Do you? >> No, I'm dead probably. >> You're Yeah, I think you're fine. Yeah. No, that's that's pretty healthy. Uh we have more chance. >> No, I'm not I'm not very unstable. Like
03:08:25
Brian AtlasI'm a very self-aware person. >> Do you Have you ever had any issues with women like female friends or anything? Or just not even friends. But >> were you a mean girl? >> No. in your private $60,000 a year
03:08:39
Shona Alanprivate school. >> I wasn't a mean girl. Like I I was very like I'm actually a pretty quiet person. So like I >> Are you introverted? >> Very. >> Have you ever taken the uh MyersBriggs
03:08:49
Brian Atlastype indicator? >> Yes, I got INTJ. >> INTJ. Yeah. Okay. >> When I was young, I got ENFP, but
03:09:00
Brian Atlasthere's no way I'm extroverted anymore. I'm definitely introverted. M maybe >> I think I'm I'm Yo chat, what do you think I am? >> Actually, somebody has like a thing. Wait,
03:09:12
Shona Alan>> are you more practical or intuitive? >> I don't know. Wait, somebody there's like a personality. >> There's a personality database for me, guys. Here, I'll pull this up. >> I think you're definitely more thinking than feeling. And you're definitely more
03:09:24
Shona Alanjudging than >> perceiving. So, yeah, I think ISTJ is pretty accurate. Although, I don't think MBTI is the most accurate thing ever. >> Yeah, I don't. Some people think it's pseudocience. >> No, it's very pseudocience.
03:09:35
Shona Alan>> They give me ISTJ and I have no idea what >> anagram. Anagram is a little more accurate, but it's not as interesting. >> So, I'm introverted sensing thinking >> and judging. Yeah, I think that's true.
03:09:49
Brian AtlasLike >> Brian is driven by basic fear. Damn. What the [ __ ] >> Oh, >> and then I have 118 votes. 97% thinking.
03:10:00
Brian Atlas>> No, that's true. You're totally >> 71% J 81% >> I don't know what all this other is flaggmatic caleric >> what >> I don't know what these >> like
03:10:11
Brian Atlas>> big five neuroticism oh damn they give me oh this is for neuroticism okay agreeableness conscientiousness
03:10:23
Brian Atlashis sight is so obvious in the way he constructs and defends arguments his sense of humor is very ISTJ as well. Okay, that's just
03:10:34
Shona Alana hater. Dbag virus. These people are giving me breakdowns. >> Wow. >> Wait, why is there three? I don't know why. >> Wait, you're actually like on the internet. Like people can just like analyze you like that. >> You want to see something crazy though?
03:10:48
Brian Atlas>> What? >> Hold on. >> Wiki feet. >> This is insane. Oh, wait. I don't know if I want to pull it up, but somebody has a freaking wiki feet.
03:11:00
Shona AlanOh my god. >> Wait. Of me. [Laughter] >> Look, my friend just sent me. Sorry. >> Just a screenshot. >> What's her name? >> My friend. >> Yeah. What's just first name? What's her name?
03:11:14
Brian Atlas>> Her name's Kim. >> Yo, what up Kim? >> Shout out to Kim. I love >> Yo, shout out Kim. >> Shout out Kim. >> Uh, hold on. Check guys, this is so gross. Somebody started a wiki feed on
03:11:26
Brian Atlasme. Hold on. Actually, you know what? I'm not going to show it. It's But these people just find pictures and uh whatever. It's
03:11:37
Brian Atlasweird. Oh, whoops. >> Hey yo, what up, Kim? Hey, wait. Kim, >> I can't I can't reveal any more. >> No. Yeah. Don't Don't Not on stream, but she should come on the show.
03:11:50
Brian Atlas>> She is Did you ask her? >> Not in California. >> I thought it was like a friend that you had. Uh, >> not here
03:11:58
Brian Atlas>> like here in at uh Santa Barbara. Uh, wait. Okay, we were doing Wait, how did we get to wiki feet?
03:12:06
Brian Atlas>> Cuz we're like a personality test. Yeah. >> Okay. Oh, the the super chat or the message about uh Oh, they said you were dangerous.
03:12:20
SPEAKER_02>> Am I dangerous? >> Blaze 30. >> I'm scared, honestly. An 18year-old does not need makeup to look good. If your co-host takes the makeup off and will give you a bow, she could possibly be future wife material.
03:12:33
Brian Atlas>> I did give him about could be a future. >> Oh [ __ ] Future whatever. Will you go get the There's a ring box on the table. >> A ring box? Yeah. What do you mean ring box?
03:12:44
Brian Atlas>> There's a ring ring box like over on the table. Like a little you know a proposal for a proposal. >> Wait here. I think it's on the table or no, it's uh >> on the shelves.
03:12:56
Brian Atlas>> No, no. You see that brown side table under the camera? >> It should be over there. >> Oh, I do. Oh,
03:13:09
Brian Atlas>> did you get it? >> Yes.
03:13:14
Brian Atlas>> You know, I'll put it here for, you know, it's uh you know, you know, you never know. >> I'm making all the moves here, guys. I already bowed. >> Oh, yeah. Do you want to prep here? Actually, because you're a feminist, let's role play. Propose to me. >> I never called myself a feminist. >> Okay. Because you're an egalitarian.
03:13:28
Brian AtlasPropose to >> I never said I'm an egalitarian. >> What are you a What would be the word? Are you uh you're just a a misogynist? Is that what you
03:13:41
Shona Alan>> I'm not a misogynist. >> Well, what are what are you? >> I'm just a >> I'm Sha. >> I'm Sha. >> Propose. >> Why am I proposing? I mean, this is probably where you're at. >> Why don't you propose? You're the man.
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Brian Atlas>> You're the woman. Wow, that was really sexist of you. Traditional gender role. >> I already bowed to you. I subscri I followed my gender role. >> No, I know. But I mean, look, I would propose to you, but I want to see how you would propose. >> It's kind of
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Brian Atlas>> But I'm I would never propose to a man. >> Well, just try. >> Why won't you do it? >> Wait, chat. Do you think it would be the ultimate manifestation? >> Can you tell Can you tell him to do it? >> Tell him to do it. I literally bowed to
03:14:20
Brian Atlashim. >> Go ahead. Propose. Go ahead. Let's see it. >> Who is Selma Hayek? Okay, fine. >> Equal level of awkward. What? >> Will you marry me?
03:14:33
Shona Alan>> I don't know if this is going to fit. >> Is this finger too big? Maybe that means you should propose to me so I can >> put it on my finger. >> Wow. Oh [ __ ]
03:14:44
Brian Atlas>> You didn't even propose properly. Here, put it back. >> Nice. Two. Very poor proposal from proposals from the both of us. We're okay. Uh,
03:14:58
SPEAKER_02chat. >> I did a fullon bow. >> Oh, it's a gym. >> GMD gym donated. >> Holy shite. The spoiling of this generation is creating vain spoiled 304 monsters.
03:15:12
SPEAKER_02>> Is that home? >> My dad made good money. I never got an allowance. I got a job. You never appreciate that which you do not earn. >> Throw it at her, Brian. I'm not a hoe,
03:15:23
Brian Atlasthough. I'm not a hoe. What makes a woman a hoe? >> Isn't your body count zero? >> It is. Yeah. >> I guess the opposite. >> So, technically, like technically I guess somebody could be
03:15:36
Brian Atlasa virgin. >> Virgin hoe. >> But a hoe. >> How? >> It would be like for example, promiscuity. Would you agree with me that a woman
03:15:47
Brian Atlascould be like behave in a promiscuous way but not like be a virgin? >> Like what what would that promiscuous way be if she's not getting with guys? >> It could I mean she could be flirting with a bunch of guys. She could be like
03:15:59
Brian Atlas>> okay being a flirt means you're a hoe. >> Well, it depends >> cuz I I love to flirt but like >> it depends how but I would say >> by like just talking like that's not >> but you would >> that's being a flirt. That's not
03:16:09
Brian Atlas>> I think prompt somebody could be perceived as hoish or promiscuous but even be a virgin. >> Well, I mean if she's like doing other [ __ ] with guys all the time. >> Sure. The ultimate manifestation would be >> because you can still hook up without
03:16:22
Shona Alanhaving sex. So like if she's doing that all like a lot and giving her body still to some degree to a lot of guys then that's >> sure. >> I could see that. But >> or like what about a girl who who dresses super revealing?
03:16:36
Shona AlanThat's that can be promiscuous. That can be helpful. >> I mean, if it's like super revealing and all the time, then sure. >> Like ass cheeks fully out. >> See, that's a little much. It's a little publicly indecent perhaps.
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Shona Alan>> Well, some people don't, you know, a lot of people would say, >> I guess. So, I could see that. >> Why are you shaming? >> Um, >> I mean, to each their own, but I think if you're if your butt cheeks are out in public, then that's there's children out
03:17:01
Shona Alanand about. That's not very that's not right. >> Yeah. But there's environments where it's like just college kids or you know where it wouldn't be like exposing young children to that. >> But even like that's still not
03:17:13
Brian Atlasappropriate like on campus really. >> Well for the setting I feel like it would be a little inappropriate. >> If you're if you're in your own home and you're wearing that then who cares like? >> Yeah. I guess I mean that's just kind of underwear then.
03:17:25
Brian Atlas>> Like I I wear like the Brandy boy shorts in my own dorm room but like I wouldn't wear them out. >> By the way, do you how many people uh do you have in >> I'm in a triple. Ooh, a triple. >> I love my roommates. >> Some people get singles. I love my roommates. Does anybody ever get singles
03:17:38
Shona Alanin the dorms or No, >> not often, >> but there are some. >> There are some. Our our sweetmate is isn't a single, but that's cuz her two roommates dropped out, I think. >> Oh, really? >> Like they just >> Are they going to put other people? >> No, no, no. She's got the >> She's got it for Oh, lucky.
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Brian Atlas>> No, but it's nice cuz now >> Wait, question. Do they drop out after they already like had their first few days or they dropped out before? >> They never came. Maybe they went to another school. I don't know. It happened. >> Interesting. >> What were you going to say? I forgot. But no, I love my roommates.
03:18:06
SPEAKER_02>> Dorm something. >> I love my roommates. >> Pasty George donated $30. >> Brian, I'll get you the Apple iPhone air. If thin eyebrows remove all makeup,
03:18:17
SPEAKER_02then it is yours. It has to be on this live stream. And there makeup removal. It has to be the whole thing. >> Hold on. >> Why are my eyebrows gone?
03:18:27
Brian Atlas>> I did. I did them different today. >> He's getting me. Look how beautiful this >> My phone's fine. I'm not taking off my makeup. No, it's not happening. >> Look at Look at how beautiful this phone
03:18:40
Shona Alanis. >> No, no, no, no. It's not even that good. >> No. >> From 199.
03:18:56
Shona AlanHow much How much are they, >> guys? I literally did my eyebrows thicker, but I'll do them. >> What do you think looks better? >> I've been growing them out since the last podcast thanks to you guys.
03:19:08
Brian Atlas>> I kind of like the Normally I prefer black, but >> the white is kind of nice, but >> sky blue's you'll just have to save up. I kind of like the sky blue. Like it looks like like a silver. I Anyways,
03:19:22
Brian Atlas>> the blue is kind of nice. >> So, there's 256. I would probably just get the 256 or maybe the 512. Nah, 256 is probably fine. You won't do it though. What the [ __ ]
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Shona Alan>> You know, at the UCS Okay, hold on. At the UCSB campus store, like it's like sponsored by Apple or something. So, you can get a new phone for like 200 if you trade in your old one. >> Oh, if you do a trade in. >> Yeah, but that's still like 200 for like a 17.
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Shona Alan>> That's pretty good. >> I got a deal. I guess >> I could totally trade yours in and get you anymore. But so you're not going to >> I'm not taking off your makeup. >> No. No. >> You won't do me this. He's offering to get a phone. >> I already proposed to him and bowed to
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Brian Atlashim. I'm not taking off my makeup for him. That's too soon. >> He's offering a phone. He's offering to get me make a massive contribution towards the whatever podcast. What if he
03:20:12
Shona Alangot you a phone, too? He got both of us a >> Would you do it then? >> No. >> Not even. >> Let me keep my makeup on. Now I'm just being petty. I don't even care. I doesn't want a new phone. She doesn't want >> I want to keep you know
03:20:24
Brian Atlas>> you can't buy this woman pasty because you know here's she she her her dad's super rich. >> He just made a h 100red million this past year. >> He didn't make 100 million. >> Oh, sorry. How much did he make? 10 mil or something.
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Shona Alan>> Well, before tax. >> Before tax. >> California tax is insane. Federal T. Oh, he still pays tax in the UK because he's British. >> She can't be bought, Pasty. She can't be bought. I can't be bought.
03:20:49
Brian Atlas>> Can I do something pasty? The You should buy me pizza. >> Hey, Pasty. I'll take my makeup. >> Rumbling. >> Maybe I'll get us I'll get us some food. >> Uh >> or maybe you can put on my makeup. I have lip gloss. >> Like I put it on you or I put the makeup on me.
03:21:02
Brian Atlas>> You don't want some Dior lip gloss? >> I'm going to Somebody's going to have to >> see I told you I I use the good stuff. >> Wow. Fancy. Look at you. >> Daddy's money. >> Daddy's money. >> No, I bought that with my own money from an internship. >> Aloo donated $30.
03:21:16
SPEAKER_02>> Thank you, Aloo. >> Li Brow Girl. She's definitely indoctrinated and fell for the feminist girl boss babe mind virus. >> I am not a boss. >> Get used to your lonely career with
03:21:26
SPEAKER_02cats/vibrators. >> W whatever burrito Wednesdays. >> Um pasty. I'll take my makeup off. >> I'll I'll take my makeup off for >> Why do we think I'm going to be alone?
03:21:39
Brian AtlasLike >> you know what? Look, there's a lot of cope. Yo, chat. What do you guys think? >> I'll find myself a man. >> Well, here's the thing, right? >> I have one right here. I think there's a lot of >> continue.
03:21:50
Brian Atlas>> I think there's a lot of cope with like, oh, these feminist women, uh, they will never find a man. Look, you guys got to understand there's something
03:22:01
Brian Atlasespecially when it comes to attractive women, no matter what they did in their past, I tweeted about this the other day or
03:22:10
Brian Atlasyesterday, attractive women almost always land on their feet. Let me repeat that. Attractive women, doesn't matter if they even a lot of these girls, even if they
03:22:22
Brian Atlasdid porn and [ __ ] Attractive women almost always land on their feet. You might think that's not fair. You
03:22:32
Brian Atlasmight think that sucks, but it's going it's totally cope. Like, oh my god, these women who, you know, they were promiscuous or, you know, they have a past, they have, you know, they land on
03:22:44
Shona Alantheir feet. They land on their feet. You might be like, "That sucks." But hey, >> not not always. >> I think I've not done anything bad enough to where I shouldn't be able to land on my feet just cuz I have some >> Wait,
03:22:57
Shona Alan>> not conservative takes. What? >> Oh, wait. Scoot on. Scoot in this way a little bit. >> What were you saying? >> I think I'm like I'm not I've not done anything bad though. >> Push this.
03:23:07
Shona Alan>> What? >> I'm trying to like adjust this thing is okay. Never mind. >> Like I' I've not sold my body or anything. So there's no reason I
03:23:18
Brian Atlasshouldn't land on my feet just because what I I agree with some ideas within feminism. >> It is a bit of a it is it is a bit of a
03:23:27
Brian Atlascope, you know. Uh wait, wait, he Oh, I I missed the part about lonely career with cats and vibrators. No, she's going to be a psychiatrist.
03:23:38
Shona AlanSo, she's going to be talking. Isn't >> feel like psychiatrists. >> So, I would never spend money I would
03:23:48
Brian Atlasnever spend money on like sex toys. >> Sorry. Just needed out there. >> Good to know. Uh >> yeah, she's going to be
03:24:00
Brian Atlas>> What about psychiatrists? >> No, you're just talking to all your people every day. Like, do you want to do abnormal psych stuff? Like how cuz you can probably be selective with your clientele, right?
03:24:11
Brian Atlas>> Like you can specialize. Yeah. >> But like do you want the real nut cases, the nut jobs? >> I'm actually interested in forensic psych. So like incarcerated people. >> So you'd go like you'd work at a prison
03:24:24
Brian Atlasor something or what? What do you >> Well, not nec something of that sort. >> Forensic psychology. So like if there's a court case, you would be like an ex give evaluating witness their men's
03:24:37
Brian Atlasrhea. That's what >> what's it called? An expert witness or something. >> I don't know. >> Forensic psych. >> What? >> Talking to the cats >> to be constantly analyzing you.
03:24:51
Brian AtlasSit on my couch over here. >> No, I do like doing that. Like being a little like >> analytical. Aren't a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists, they're a little messed
03:25:02
Shona Alanup themselves? >> Isn't that a thing? You know, >> um, a lot of like mental health professionals might get therapy themselves um >> because their job is kind of mentally difficult.
03:25:15
Brian Atlas>> That could be true actually. But I mean, good thing there's still people willing to do it or >> there would be no mental health care. >> Yo, Beast Gen. Yeah, that leopard print girl is crazy. >> She is crazy. Yeah, >> she's crazy.
03:25:28
SPEAKER_02Milo_melia donated $30. Hi Brian and Shauna, French expat here in the US. 37 successful and
03:25:38
SPEAKER_02fairly good-looking. Been dating but each date felt a job interview. Any advice about how to navigate the scene here? >> Each date. >> France.
03:25:49
Brian Atlas>> So you're from France. You live in the USA. 37 successful. Fairly good-looking. >> Why would you need advice then? Are you a male? >> Yeah, I think so. >> Any advice about how you to navigate the
03:26:02
Brian Atlasscene here? >> He has all the tools. >> 30 at 37. >> Well, I mean I' I'd want to know what you've done like what have you tried? Have you tried dating apps? How how are you meeting people? What are your
03:26:14
Brian Atlasactivities that you do? Do you like cold approach? Like I don't know if you see a cute girl in Trader Joe's, you go up and introduce yourself. How are you meeting people? That's the big thing. But, uh, >> if you're if you're good-looking and
03:26:26
Shona Alanyou're successful, then I guess just be more charismatic. >> Shoot your shot. >> Did you just say that? Just be more charismatic. >> Well, he has the looks. He has the money. >> But
03:26:36
Brian Atlas>> he needs the charisma. No. >> Yeah, but charisma is look, I think you can practice becoming a better conversationalist. I think you can make yourself, you can bolster the
03:26:49
Brian Atlasenergy and the way you convey things. >> I think it starts internally like confidence. I think there's certain things like humor and charisma that some of it it's not
03:27:04
Brian Atlasyou can work on it. You can self-improve and develop, but you can't just take somebody and then oh just be charismatic
03:27:15
Shona Alan>> like and some people will never have it in them to ever be charismatic. Well, I think you need to just like work on your confidence then and your the like the good parts of your personality will shine through more and that in itself
03:27:26
Brian Atlaswill be like charismatic to people, you know? >> Yeah. I mean, you should self-improve, but I think when we're talking about charisma, I think we're talking about like a really specific personality trait.
03:27:39
Shona Alan>> I don't mean a certain personality type that is super charismatic, but I think like you will have your own charm >> if you work on being more calm. I think
03:27:47
Brian Atlasover the course of your life people can develop a their character but I don't know some some of this stuff you can you can learn how to flirt. >> Some of it you're Yeah. Yeah. Sure. >> You can learn how to flirt
03:28:00
Brian Atlas>> but like genuinely like I think of some charismatic people a lot of them just had like this innate thing even from when they were young. Um, not to say you
03:28:10
Brian Atlascan't procure it and cur curate your personality, but um, honestly, I think the bigger advice
03:28:21
Brian Atlasthough is dating, at least for a guy, is a numbers game. So, how to navigate the scene. I mean, you just have to work as a guy, you kind of have to do uh
03:28:34
Brian Atlasvolume. You got to do volume as a guy. What does that mean? >> Oh, that just means like you can't just sit back and wait. You have to you uh
03:28:47
Brian Atlasyou got to be shooting your shot with a lot of people. >> And that's like confident, you know? That's the confident thing. Confident thing to do. >> You know what? I don't like confidence. >> You don't >> [ __ ] confidence. You know,
03:28:59
Brian Atlas>> being like assertive as a guy, like being kind of forward. Well, it's good if you have confidence, but I think there's a trait that transcends confidence,
03:29:10
Brian Atlas>> and that's courage. So, confidence would be you see a pretty girl, there's a lack of fear, and you approach her. Like, you don't have any fear. You just go up, you
03:29:21
Brian Atlasflirt. Some people are just have that confidence, right? But you see a girl and you think she's attractive and you're nervous, but you do it anyways. That's courage.
03:29:33
Brian Atlas>> I think this is semantics. >> It's not semantics. Courage. Courage transcends confidence. [ __ ] confidence. This idea of waiting until Oh, but I'm scared. I No, I'm not going to approach
03:29:46
Shona Alan>> feeling. And when I say confident, I just mean like >> feel secure in yourself >> and like feel like, oh, you can do what you put your mind to, >> right? But I think that's what I'm
03:29:57
Brian Atlascalling confidence. But I think a lot of men, like especially today, like back in the day, you know, before dating apps and social media, like if you wanted to meet a girl, like you had a unless it was like friend group and it kind of
03:30:10
Brian Atlashappened more organically, like you would have to approach a girl at school or at a party or something. People still do that, but not as frequently. Now with dating apps, social media, there's a crutch.
03:30:22
Brian AtlasUm, but a lot of men will feel one of the big hurdles for men is I mean, and there's much more pressure now just for a few reasons, but to approach a girl in
03:30:34
Brian Atlasperson, like you just see a girl at the Trader Joe's or a girl on college campus or whatever. A lot of guys are nervous, they're scared, >> they have anxiety.
03:30:45
Brian Atlas>> What am I going to say? >> That is scary. Yeah. But so from my perspective, confidence would be >> also I don't mean arrogance when I say confidence. >> No, it wouldn't be arrogance there.
03:30:55
Brian Atlas>> Confidence is fine, but when I think of confidence, I think you see the girl, there's a lack of anxiety, lack of fear. You're just like, I'm cool. I'm going to say what's up.
03:31:07
Brian AtlasYou go up and there's no anxiety around it. But most men do have a lot of anxiety as it relates to like just approaching a woman cold like that. And
03:31:18
Brian Atlasso that's why I think courage is the better trait to um oh [ __ ] what's the word? Curate, I guess. Like men, you should
03:31:29
Brian Atlasnot focus on like don't wait to be confident to the point where there's a lack of fear. Like don't wait until you're confident.
03:31:40
Brian AtlasBe okay with the fear. Be okay with being scared. And be courageous instead. And despite there being the presence of fear, you take the action anyways. >> Sure. But being confident will also benefit you in the long run.
03:31:53
Brian Atlas>> It'll make that less. >> But here's the thing. You can always be courageous. Confidence, your state, your mind state. For example, like if I'm anxious
03:32:04
Brian Atlasand I'm like, "Oh, that that girl's really attractive. I'm anxious. That's not confidence. But I say [ __ ] confidence. The courageous thing then you can always be courageous would be
03:32:16
Shona Alanokay. I'm a result of being >> I'm nervous. I'm going to approach her anyways. >> As a result of being courageous, you'll become more confident in the future. Yes. So I think they go hand in hand and we're just you you're being a little nitpicky about the term here.
03:32:28
Shona Alan>> And I think we have the same idea of just like be like >> be someone who approaches others and put yourself out there. >> Yes. >> We're saying the same thing. You're just arguing over the term. Well, >> I think Brian just wants to argue, not me.
03:32:40
Brian Atlas>> You're right. I do just want to I just want to argue. It's so fun. Um, >> well, I need to use the bathroom. >> Yeah, go for it. >> Uh, Vexith donated $30.
03:32:53
SPEAKER_02>> Oh, no. >> Brian, do your long nails get in the way of your key? >> Okay, okay, okay. >> When I'm playing finger twister on Wow, I have to keep my nails short. Also, the like-minded community you brought
03:33:04
Brian Atlastogether is clearing knacks. Oh [ __ ] Okay. So, first off, I was actually I had my nail clip. I had
03:33:14
Brian Atlasmy nail clippers and I was but I had to rush out the door be uh so I forgot to cut my nails. Normally my nails are not this long, but they are a little long. I'll give you that.
03:33:27
Brian AtlasBut normally I do not keep my nails this long. I usually clip them like once a week or something. But yeah, it's a little embarrassing. My nails are a little bit a teeny bit long. Uh,
03:33:39
Brian Atlasbut uh, also it looks like you were maybe in the guild for what? World of Warcraft. Have you killed Have you guys killed KT Vexith? Yeah, I recognize your name.
03:33:49
Brian AtlasSend me another TTS. Have you guys killed KT? I'm glad that you guys can Yeah, I only played for a couple weeks. Not even. I'm glad you guys continued the gaming. Yo, Gman, can you send it
03:34:00
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03:34:11
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03:35:46
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03:36:06
Brian AtlasOrange t-shirts. October Halloween edition. Valid through 10:31. So, two weeks. Heather orange. We got some different colors for the t-shirts. We got uh
03:36:19
Brian Atlasthat hoodie and then the premium hoodie. They're both nice, but this one's like just a little little little better. Little better. And uh yeah,
03:36:30
Brian Atlasguys, I kind of like the heather. I think the heather looks nice. But um >> get it. And these are high quality blanks, guys. These are high quality
03:36:41
Brian Atlasshirts. It's not crappy, uncomfortable stuff. You'll actually want to wear it. Okay, that's pretty much that. Boom. >> No polyester, right? >> I'm not sure. I I don't know. Maybe
03:36:52
Brian Atlasthey're blend. I'm not sure. Uh, okay. We're going to do the other chats really quick. I'm going to order some food, though. Uh, one sec. Let me let some of the chats come through. Did you design all the merch or something? I design all the
03:37:06
Brian Atlasmerch. >> Brian is very aesthetically inclined. He's messing with all the fonts and everything. >> I wear many hats. >> I wear many hats. >> Yeah. Oh, also I mean since we're on it,
03:37:18
Brian Atlasguys, get a big labia matter. >> Big labia matter >> t-shirt. >> Oh, BLM. Oh, >> BLM. BLM. Do you support BLM? >> Like, do I support
03:37:30
Shona Alan>> Yeah. Do you support BLM? >> Like the overarching concept, but like >> Yeah. The overall the overarching concept that was made in response to like police brutality. >> What?
03:37:43
Shona Alan>> What are you talking about? >> What are you talking about? I'm talking about BLM >> like the organization. >> No, big labia matter. >> Oh, big labia matter. Sure. Big labas totally matter.
03:37:53
Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. Cool. >> Uh, support my cause. Okay. A few chats, then I'm going to order some food. >> Big labas matter.
03:38:04
Shona Alan>> Let's see. Gman, can you read this one? >> Hi, 20-year-old in college. Um, oh, that person is a 20-year-old in college. I've had horrible experiences with women who
03:38:17
Shona Alanhave called me a stalker and harass her for simply talking to them. Now, I don't talk to women because I don't want the trouble. I feel I will never find my person. They definitely should not be calling you that for simply talking to
03:38:28
Shona Alanthem. That's definitely wrong on their part. Very unkind. I would just say keep at it. Even though it's hard, you will find the right person. >> I think like your person you don't
03:38:40
Shona Alannecessarily find by like just going up to a random woman. Like >> I don't know >> why not. >> I I I feel like it's more common to like find your person organically, right?
03:38:50
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But a lot of people will meet like in I mean it depends what we mean by organic. Like I think I would argue approaching somebody that you go to college with or like
03:39:03
Brian Atlas>> you go to college with like that's >> Trader Joe's. >> You already come across each other. >> Yeah. Maybe you don't have class, but you see this pretty girl walking down the quad or, you know, whatever it is, and okay, let me shoot my shot. >> Um,
03:39:15
Brian Atlas>> that's I think that's more organic than like DMing a girl on Instagram. That is >> or dating app or >> Yeah. >> Um, question for you. So, you've been in college for like two weeks now. Do you get approached
03:39:27
Shona Alan>> uh on campus like during the day by guys or No, >> just walking on campus. No. >> Yeah. Like has a guy ever come up to you and been like, "Hey, what's up? Think you're cute?" or >> No. Um, at parties. At parties. Yes. At
03:39:39
Shona Alanparties. Yes. On Instagram. Yes. Not just walking to class on campus. >> Yeah. >> But it'd be kind of hard for them to do that anyway. Like >> why is that? >> I'm just kind of like walking in the corner just like scurrying to class. >> Trying to get to class. Yeah.
03:39:50
Shona Alan>> Like zipped up in my little hoodie like >> Yeah. Uh, let's see. We have >> But guys, I don't see guys do that much. Like their version of doing that is Instagram. >> Yep.
03:40:03
SPEAKER_02Blist donated $30. Bloody millennials and Gen Zed these days. So entitled. It's unbelievable. They just walk around like they rent the place.
03:40:16
Brian Atlas>> Are you talking about her? >> Me? Am I Am I entitled? >> Are you calling her entitled or you talking in general? Blah. >> I don't think I'm very entitled. But >> hey, it's Lil Paladins donated $30.
03:40:28
SPEAKER_02>> They're not talking about you. She has given 200 different men a handy but is still a virgin. That's a 304. >> I mean, if a girl's done that, then that's kind of promiscuous. >> Yeah, I guess he was talking about how
03:40:41
Brian Atlaswhen we were saying, well, can you >> talking about me, right? Cuz >> I don't think so. >> Not true. >> But is it I think we were just saying can can a woman who's a virgin be a hoe or be promiscuous? So, >> sure. I think with his definition, we
03:40:54
Shona Alanprobably agree that. >> But if she's given 200 guys a handy, she's probably had sex in most cases. Are there virgins who've just given 200 guys hand jobs? That's crazy.
03:41:05
Brian Atlas>> Uh I mean, there's some girls who will do like other they won't have sex, but they'll do like other stuff, I guess. But 200. Yeah, that's definitely a lot. Wait, did I already
03:41:16
SPEAKER_02>> Wait, did he send it in twice? Milo_melia donated $35. >> Hi Brian and Shauna French expat here in
03:41:26
SPEAKER_02the US 37 and reasonably goodlook. Each date here feels like a job interview. Any advice about how to navigate the scene here? >> Job interview.
03:41:39
Brian AtlasWell, are you making it that way or is she? Are you uh I actually don't mind the job interview stuff. Like
03:41:49
Brian Atlasmaybe I'm just very surgical, but I kind of like at least if I'm doing the if I'm doing the job interview, it's cool. If she's
03:42:01
Brian Atlasinterviewing me, then I'm kind of like, eh. But I don't want to just let's just vibe. M >> like I I kind of want to like >> You don't have any laundry?
03:42:12
Brian Atlas>> No. No. What when what I say is the job interview. It's like okay let's let's talk about the things that are deal breaker. Like let's talk about the you know like you could go on a date with a guy or you could if you're a guy you go
03:42:24
Brian Atlason a date with a girl and it's just you're just vibing. It's just kind of not superficial but it's just like basic convo just having a good time, right? Or you could go on a date
03:42:36
Brian Atlaswhere it's like, "Okay, let's assess compatibility. What are you looking for?" Um, >> doesn't that come later though? You focus on vibing first because that's arguably the most important thing is your chemistry and you start you start thinking about
03:42:50
Brian Atlas>> But I guess >> you start picking up on that stuff. Or you can just do both in one date. >> I guess it depends how much free time you have. Me personally, I I want to know I want to know all the stuff, all the details quick. So that way if
03:43:03
Brian Atlasthere's something that's a deal breakaker, >> nice to meet you. But >> like what are the what are the things you try and find out usually? >> Um I'll send you my girlfriend
03:43:15
Brian Atlasapplication and you'll see. But uh I mean trying to think here. Oh, like I mean I'm just going to immediately I want to know major major deal breakers
03:43:25
Brian Atlaslike okay drug use. Like that might seem a bit abrupt to just ask somebody like, "Okay, do you do you use drugs?" But if somebody like is a drug user, that's
03:43:36
Brian Atlasprobably not the person. And when I say drugs, I mean um if a girl you can ask you ask these things on the first date. >> Oh, I might ask a girl before I even meet them. >> I might get on a call. >> I feel like I feel like you can have like a date with someone then where you
03:43:49
Shona Alanfully vibe with them and maybe you just like ask those questions throughout though. No. >> Shouldn't feel too like job interviewish. Well, my thing would be before you even get on the date, >> I would uh >> But isn't that a little awkward? You
03:44:02
Brian Atlasdon't really know each other. >> You you call What do you mean? >> To like be like, "By the way, before we go on a date, answer me this questionnaire." >> Yeah. >> Fill out this application. >> Well, it depends. It depends. And just just a little >> Most girls might actually be turned off
03:44:15
Brian Atlasby that, even if they've not done any of those things. >> Yeah, that's fine. I don't really care. But >> I mean, it might work. Well, it depends what the the the scenario is, depends
03:44:25
Brian Atlasthe context. So, if if I was a meeting a girl on a dating app, I I don't have a lot of negotiating
03:44:37
Brian Atlasposition >> to pull that off. But like, for example, if a girl sliding into my DMs, okay, you're gonna get screened. I should It's not It's I shouldn't frame
03:44:48
Brian Atlasit like I'm, oh, I'm so cool. But if a girl's hitting me up, you have a stronger negotiating position. And you as a woman definitely should understand this. Like if the guy's coming to you, you're in a better position to
03:45:02
Brian Atlas>> easily >> dictate your terms. Not to make it sound like action. I get what you're saying. >> But there is a power dynamic that's >> women actually like to not acknowledge, but >> I acknowledge it for sure. >> Well, the power dynamic is this.
03:45:14
Brian Atlas>> I love being a woman. You're in a privileged position, power position when somebody's coming to you. >> You are >> If somebody's coming to you and they're trying to court you,
03:45:27
Brian Atlas>> that >> Yeah, that gives you >> Oh, that gives you a stronger, for lack of a better word, negotiating position. And this relates to business, too.
03:45:38
Shona Alan>> No, I get I get screening the person. I get it. I get it. I just think that you should also try and vibe with the person you're on a date. Yeah, sure. I mean, you shouldn't be >> if if a guy is just purely trying to screen an interview. If any date >> Wait, scoot that way just a tad.
03:45:51
Shona Alan>> Any date like this is so universal. Any date that feels too much like a job interview or like like an interview a girl, she's not going to want to come back for a second date. >> Yeah, sure. I mean, it shouldn't be um
03:46:02
Brian Atlasyou shouldn't be like a cold methodical robot when you're conversating with people. You should have like some banter and it should be fun. But I also think like you can you
03:46:14
Brian Atlascan do a call. you can do a call or even if you're texting, you can ask some certain questions. If these things are really important to you, then like I say, why wait until the
03:46:25
Shona Alanthird date to find out for a deal breaker? Why not find out like if you're just have free time and you're just kind of >> the first date focused on making a good impression and connecting,
03:46:37
Brian Atlas>> but all that other stuff can matter too. Well, my approach is I would want to have a phone call with a person before I go on a date. >> Well, if you're meeting online, for example, like dating apps, I want to
03:46:49
Brian Atlasspeak to them on the phone. And on the phone, you can maybe you don't vet every single thing, but you can vet some major important things. >> I think you can get away with your thing so long as you do it in a way that's not like awkward. >> Yeah,
03:47:01
SPEAKER_02>> if you can pull it off, then that I don't think it's unreasonable. It's just not something I'm used to. Blaze donated $30. You proposed to him.
03:47:12
SPEAKER_02You bow. But are you doing his laundry yet? Brian, don't cave to her. She is not humble yet. >> Uhoh. >> Eve fooled Adam too in the garden. >> I actually >> He needs to prove her worth to you. >> I actually do need to do laundry. Maybe I >> thought I proved my worth to him
03:47:26
Brian Atlasalready. >> You're right. She bowed. What was the other thing she did? >> Proposed. >> She proposed. I do. I needed to do a towel wash and I need to do a clothes wash wash. So maybe we can uh we'll do that. That'd actually
03:47:39
Shona Alanbe a fun stream. >> Me doing Brian's laundry. >> A girl doing my laundry. Um can you just read this one? >> TBH, she can take some [ __ ] talk. She a tank for real respect. >> Yeah, you're pretty uh
03:47:51
SPEAKER_02you're pretty Some people would be offended by some of the stuff, but you're pretty >> I don't care. I'm cool with it. >> You're pretty chill about all of it. >> L Paladins donated $30. iPhone Air is
03:48:04
SPEAKER_02worth it. It's the nicest phone since the six. It's because they all lie. Tell you her body count is zero even when it isn't. Cough cough. 200 men got handles
03:48:15
Shona Alanand an L doesn't count. >> Oh, anal. >> I would Okay, I just want to say this. I The idea of like anal is just like like butt stuff like no.
03:48:27
Brian Atlas>> But I mean you haven't had any sex. >> Never. So, I mean, even >> like even doesn't regular sex kind of make you nervous? >> Well, >> because I mean you're a virgin, so
03:48:39
Brian Atlas>> Well, yeah, I guess. Like, what do you mean? >> Well, >> but like butt stuff is like like your butt. No. >> That's just like >> I prefer regular. >> That just turns me off.
03:48:50
SPEAKER_02>> I prefer regular. Um, okay. Uh, we did >> Why Why do you guys think I'm lying? Like, I've never dated $30. I effed up my super chat on YouTube. I didn't know
03:49:01
SPEAKER_02how super chat worked. Lauo TLDDR. I have had horrible accusations from women for years. >> I'm now 20 and I feel like I will never find my person. >> We were able to read the super chat, but
03:49:14
Brian Atlasyeah, sorry to hear about accusations. Um, >> yeah, man. I mean, >> uh, you're young though. 20. That's super young. >> You feel like you'll never find your
03:49:26
Brian Atlasperson. Look, I'll tell you this, man. I'm 36. When I was 20, um I had uh I had had like a long-term girlfriend by that
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Brian Atlaspoint. But um I think we I was 19, broke up when I was 20, I think. Uh look, when I was 20, yeah, dating was there's frustrating components of
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Brian Atlasdating, and it can feel like that, man. But um I probably felt somewhat similar when I was 20. I've had I've had plenty of really solid relationships, good relationships. So, you'll be fine, man.
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Brian AtlasYou're super young. Like, trust me. I know it might feel old. Tr I'll tr I would give anything to be 20 again. Let me tell you that. I would give Oh, I would give anything to be 20 again. So, you're young, man. You've got a lot of time to figure it out. You can't you
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Brian Atlasyou're too You're 20. You can't even drink, right? You can't even go to the bars. So, yeah, you're young, man. You got a long time. You got a long time to figure it out. Just get get in good shape. Get your
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Brian Atlasmoney right. Uh if you see a if you see a girl that that you fancy >> shoot your shot. Tell her you know. Uh don't do any weird pickup lines or [ __ ] Just go up.
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Brian Atlas>> Pickup lines are silly. >> Hey, what's up? Thought you were cute. Are you single? >> That's it. That's honestly if I could give >> No, no, no, no. You need to like start a bit of a conversation first. >> No, no, no, no. Direct. You have to be
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Brian Atlasdirect. Direct. Direct. Direct. direct. I'm telling you guys, you don't need some stupid pickup line. >> Don't listen to him. >> You can just say you you can even skip the cute part. Hey, what's up? Are you single? I'm telling you. >> Come up to her.
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Brian Atlas>> I'm telling you. >> Start a conversation that makes sense. Then slide it in there. >> Like what? Oh my Oh my god, your purse is so cute. >> No, no, no. Don't do that [ __ ] If you're in class together or something,
03:51:16
Shona Alanthen just like start like talking about like the assignment or like make a joke about the teacher and then just like get a bit of a conversation going. Make her laugh. If you if you make her laugh, your success your chance of success will go up a lot.
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Brian Atlas>> Can you give me a paper towel? I sp I spilled.
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Brian Atlas>> Just kidding. Um >> I'll clean it. >> Can you shoot your shot? >> Give it a minute. If if it's a girl in your class, you can be a bit more
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Brian Atlastactful with it, but like any other scenario.
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Brian Atlas>> Nah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You go up. >> Wait, they want my Instagram. >> No, don't. You probably don't want to share that. >> Can I >> Don't do it. >> Why not? >> Don't do it. >> Don't do it. You'll get No, don't do it.
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Brian AtlasDon't do it. Um, so anyways, oh my god, she wants she wants s e o n a l ln. >> All right. Um, >> follow me. >> So, what was I saying now? You're just
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Shona AlanOkay. >> What was I saying? You're so rude. You keep interrupting me. Rude. >> Keep talking. Keep talking. Oh, it's about about shooting your shot. About shooting your shot like with a >> someone. >> Oh, she already she already did. Like
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Brian Atlaswhen I was gone, she already [ __ ] Oh my god. [ __ ] clout demon. >> What's the problem? What's the problem? I'm not like posting like or anything. So, >> uh >> I'm not trying to get clicks. >> No, I'm telling you like you don't need
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Brian Atlassome stupid pickup line. All you need is you can just say, "Hey, what's up? Thought you were cute. Are you single?" That's it. That's it. You want to you want to do the are you single thing because some girls will I mean, if you
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Brian Atlassay, "Are you cute?" A lot of girls if they're dating somebody, they'll just they'll tell you, "Oh, hey, thank you, but I have a boyfriend." But some girls in some situations, like if you approach a girl at a party or
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Brian Atlassomething, they might have a boyfriend. I'm not saying that they're going to cheat, but what they'll do is they'll engage. They'll waste your time. They they'll they'll talk to you and then you're like, "Oh, hey, uh you talk
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Brian Atlasto them for 10, 20, 30 minutes. Hey, let me get your number. Oh, sorry. I have a boyfriend." No, you got to get the boyfriend objection immediately. Like if if uh
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Brian Atlassorry, there's a bus or something passing by kind of loud. You want the objection upfront. So save your time. Like you don't because some girls you approach, they'll
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Brian Atlastalk to you, but if you don't really make it clear and you want to make your intentions known like I don't know these guys who will go up to a girl and like talk to them for 10 minutes and just like >> I don't know that seems weird. 10
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Shona Alanminutes. But just like if it's just too robotic, like it's going to be like whatever. >> I I think girls can feel like a bit apprehensive though when if the guy hasn't made it clear that
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Brian Atlashe's hitting on her. Like if he's trying to do this like indirect, sly like asking her about [ __ ] >> It's not >> It's a bit It's a bit uh I don't know if it's deceptive is the right word. >> It's not about being deceptive. It's
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Shona Alanjust like >> Wait, you're this here. Move that. So it's like to the side. >> No, I just >> It's like giving a little bit of a good impression, showing a bit of
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Brian Atlas>> Wait, but it's it's more confident to just go up and just pay them a compliment and ask if they're single.
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Brian AtlasYou're cute. Are you single? >> Is that what you would do? >> What I would what I would do >> like that if like >> it's it's what I've done. Oh >> yeah. It's just
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Shona Alan>> How's that worked out? Uh, how's it worked out? Fine. I'd say >> it's worked out fine. Um, >> I mean, >> I what what >> if that works for people, then sure.
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Brian Atlas>> I just know I would prefer I would prefer to be to have a bit of conversation going first. >> Well, the context matters, but it's like it depends the context. Like, for example, if if you have a class with somebody,
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Brian Atlas>> you're going to be in that >> in any case. Well, no, but in a class you're going to be First off, I'm not so sure if you should be trying to flirt with girls in your class in your class
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