Rachel Wilson vs. Feminists! She Is A 10! Better Looking In 20 Years? LDS Dating? | Dating Talk #164

Date: 2024-05-27

Duration: 6h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MManah (DT164)>

EEbony Jan (DT164)>

DDanielle (DT164)>

MMingu (DT164)>

MMadison (DT164)>

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Anza(guest)

SPEAKER_04Ebony Jan(guest)

SPEAKER_06Manah/Madison (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Mingu(guest)

SPEAKER_13Rachel Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_14Danielle(guest)

Key Moments

OtherAnza performs opera live: Queen of the Night from The Magic Flute, then The Fifth Element aria. Brian gives it an A-minus despite no warm-up. First time opera has been performed live on the show per Brian.

“let's hear let's wait God what did I say uh the the hold on hold what's it called it's uh the the Queen the night ARA”

OtherManah discloses multiple abortions from her situationship relationships. Said matter-of-factly during relationship status round.

“I've had a couple abortions because of like it was yeah just a lot of stuff”

TopicRachel Wilson asks panel about plastic surgery culture; launches major discussion about cosmetic procedures, social media pressure, and BBL dangers.

“what do you guys think about all the plastic surgery that ladies are getting these days”

OtherManah discloses she was sexually assaulted as a child and in high school, explaining her preference for bear over man in the man vs. bear question.

“I was assault away as a kid and a lot of a couple of my first experiences in like sexually was also that like in high school so I just feel like I'd rather be maul”

OtherManah lists all cosmetic procedures she plans to get: lips, breast augmentation, hip fillers, BBL, lipo, Botox.

“um my boobs um fake boobs I want to get hip fillers hip fillers what else BBL lipo I would definitely get BOTOX”

OtherRachel Wilson admits she had her teeth done (veneers/crowns) after 5.5 years of braces left permanent staining. Distinguishes cosmetic from enhancement procedure.

“I did get my top teeth done as well I forgot to say that”

OtherMadison reveals her aunt died from BBL complications, leaving behind two young children including a newborn.

“my aunt died you got this m my inside from getting a BBL um she just didn't wake up from the anesthesia”

QuoteRachel Wilson says she would 'do backflips' for Andrew Wilson if he asked. States Andrew gets whatever Andrew wants.

“would you B Andrew I would do backflips I would whatever Andrew wants”

QuoteChat donation from Selena calls Madison 'a 10' (likely the origin of the episode title 'She Is A 10!'). Brian confirms and announces Madison will start streaming on Twitch.

“also Maddie is a 10 thank you Selena”

OtherDanielle tells revenge story from age 17: filled ex's underwear with peanut butter and rubbed it on his brand new motorcycle. Husband drove her to do it.

“I filled his underwear with peanut butter and I rubbed it over his brand new motorcycle”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, location, occupation. Manah reveals two concurrent situationships with fighting men on day of show. Danielle reveals LDS faith and marriage. Mingu reveals married/half-Taiwanese. Anza performs opera live (Queen of the Night / Fifth Element aria).

Feminism debate: definition and personal identification

Rachel Wilson and Brian debate what feminism actually means. Guests initially call themselves feminist, then retreat after probing questions. Rachel defines feminism as women's advocacy movement with male bigotry; not an equality movement.

Women in the military / selective service / draft

Should women be subject to Selective Service draft? Most guests say no. Rachel argues force and defense has always been male domain. Discussion of Special Forces women failing standards, lowered physical requirements.

Women's happiness decline under feminism (Paradox of Female Happiness)

Rachel cites survey data from 1970s-2000s showing women declining in happiness in societies with most equality. Links to rise in alcoholism, depression, anxiety. Attributes to feminism creating impossible expectations.

Greater male variability hypothesis

Brian presents greater male variability chart: more men at extremes (high and low IQ); women cluster around mean. Discussion of why women rarely reach apex of competitive fields (CEOs, generals, presidents) despite 100 years of equality.

Man vs. Bear debate

Would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Most guests choose man. Manah reveals she was assaulted as a child, explains choosing bear as emotional rather than statistical reasoning. Rachel presents data on low statistical risk from married husband vs. cohabiting partner.

Smashing the patriarchy / what is the patriarchy

Do guests want to smash the patriarchy? Mixed responses. Rachel explains patriarchy as feminist conspiracy theory; argues feminism destroyed male hierarchy leading to beta/gamma males using manipulation instead of being kept in line.

Plastic surgery debate

Rachel asks panel about plastic surgery culture. Manah says she wants lips, BBL, lipo, hip fillers, Botox. Madison shares that her aunt died from BBL complications (left two young children). Brian declares himself a natural body supremacist. Rachel says she has never seen a BBL that looked better. Ebony Jan has had lip filler.

Arguing in relationships / Rachel Wilson and Andrew dynamic

Do couples benefit from arguing? Rachel shares story of throwing remote at Andrew early in relationship; he threatened to leave permanently. She unlearned conflict behavior over time by observing his emotional stability. Mingu shares similar experience.

Bowing to men as respect

Brian plays bow video and asks if guests would bow to a man as a sign of respect. Mingu says bowing is part of her Taiwanese culture; would bow to husband. Danielle says if her husband wanted it she would do it. Manah has stipulations. Anza wants reciprocal respect. Rachel says she would do backflips for Andrew. Brian argues girls who won't bow but want man to take a bullet for them are inconsistent.

OnlyFans and sex work as a career

Is sex work a legitimate career option for women today? Manah and Anza: not for me but do what you want. Danielle: no, not legitimate. Ebony Jan and Manah reveal they have OnlyFans (astrology/twerking and music content; not explicit nudity). Discussion of women faking medical justifications for procedures.

Should men take a bullet for their girlfriend

Would you want your boyfriend to take a bullet for you after 3 months? All guests say yes or probably yes. Brian argues inconsistency with refusing to bow.

Body count and dating standards

Manah asks each guest for body count. Anza: 5. Danielle: 0 (virgin at marriage). Mingu: very low. Madison: 0/1. Rachel: very low, declines out of respect for husband. Rachel argues women don't hold men to same body count standard they hold women. Brian discusses body count thresholds and labia preference.

Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets age range and swipes through 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests say no to nearly all profiles. Manah swipes mostly no but says yes to 1-2. Madison refuses white men in swipe segment (prefers Black men). Racial preferences discussion follows.

Racial preferences in dating

Going around the table on racial preferences. Manah: prefers Black men; does not date white men due to childhood trauma at predominantly white school. Would consider right white man. Ebony Jan: no preference. Anza: no preference. Danielle: preference for white (husband is Chamorro/Filipino). Mingu: no preference. Brian: prefers Asian. Madison: ditto (white preference based on husband).

Roast segment and closing

Brian and guests do a chat-driven roast segment. Mostly mild chat donations. Chat says 'Maddie is a 10' (Selena donation at ~5:47). Danielle shares revenge story from age 17 (peanut butter on ex's underwear and motorcycle). LDS discussion around Book of Mormon and name preferences. Prostitution/sex work definition debate. OnlyFans legality discussion.

Transcript

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Rachel Wilsontwerking releases trauma you you hold trauma in your hips so shake that [ __ ] what period wait TW the woman

Rachel Wilsonprattle talking about trauma in your hips and twerking releases trauma yep yeah I got to do that I got I got some hangups I got to start twerking boys

Rachel Wilsonit's like a voodoo witchcraft basically sacal chakra releasing oh Lord exactly but sure do you think I would benefit from twerking yes mhm I've got some

Ebony Jantwerk for us some stuff I'm deing like you know wh hi going through some stuff going through some stuff let me go to the twerk doctor no Honestly though if you guys

TTS/Chat readercan you get a prescription from a doctor like maybe not like a MD but like a homeopathic doctor let me say this Cloud flying donated $69 Brian what happened to chase his

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Brian Atlasthank you sir uh Chase uh he was on he joined me for the interview with ory taban but yeah he's been on in a while uh I think he doesn't really like

Brian Atlasarguing with strumpets that's what he took that's what he told me he said he doesn't like arguing with strumpets

TTS/Chat readerum but uh that's kind of it JP donated $69 won't bow because it feels like worship but wives submit yourselves to

Rachel Wilsonyour own husbands as you do to the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church oops I think that's a tough one on this panel cuz there's only like what two of

TTS/Chat readerus that are Christians I'm a Christian okay so there's who's Christian you're Christian yes what Anonymous donated

Brian Atlas$69 worker Brian let's see that dum W where is this like did somebody catch a glimpse like people keep saying I have a

Background/minordumpy or like a fatty you're not denying it what you going to do with it whoa what you going to do

Ebony Januh oh oh no I don't know um nothing I'm nothing what I was going to say was um if you look it up doing yoga as like for

Ebony Janwomen it actually does release trauma throughout your hips so twerking yoga stretching it's a thing I believe it I was going to ask the priest this morning for some holy water I was going to put in a scor gun and then when you

Rachel Wilsonguys said anything like I just damn but I didn't do it so kind of reget uhuh oh it's it's holy water so it

Rachel Wilsonwon't ruin your makeup it'll just like you know get you out of your Pagan your Pagan nonsense I'll twerk for a Bitcoin you know what somebody donates a

Ebony JanBitcoin they do it so when I want to twerk on my only fans is a problem but you going to twerk for Bitcoin like everybody has their price exactly

Brian Atlasokay there it is everybody Bitcoin what is that 70k right now mhm [ __ ] well uh what were you saying about

Brian AtlasChristians and denominations oh yeah what's your denomination I'm Seventh Day Adventist is that like Protestant yeah

Brian Atlasokay is anybody else here religious I was raised Baptist oh well we know you're LDS you're I was raised Baptist torque Tor God you believe in the Tor

Ebony Jangod listen what would you say like are you kind of new age or do you follow any specific thing besides astrology or um so like I was saying I was raised in a Baptist Church Christian my family is

Ebony JanChristian I'm sure that if I passed away they are going to bury me as a Christian like that form mhm that's how I I like to think about it but I do um I like knowledge just like you like to read

Ebony Jandata and like science yeah that's me so I like to learn new information and apply it to my life I would consider myself spiritual though you would consider yourself spiritual but you

Ebony Jandon't follow like a certain path I have before like I like I said I was raised in the church and I've also taken it upon myself while I was in college to go to church alone and have my own

Rachel Wilsonrelationship with God I still have a relation ship with God but I also believe in learning other forms of practice Yeah I was just wondering like if you've checked into like Hinduism or

Rachel Wilsontheosophy or like new age or different things or I or if you just kind of do the the spirituality Buffet where like I take a little yoga and a little astrology and a little bit of this and a

Ebony Janlittle bit of that and kind of mishmash it pretty much yeah what Drew you to astrology um I've always asked everybody their zodiac sign and then I started to understand how like deep it is like your entire blueprint to your life is there

Ebony Janso it comes down to if you want to actually know that information or if you don't I don't I never shove it down people's throat I'm not going to try and make people believe what I believe but I do truly believe in it it shows you it can answer a lot in your

TTS/Chat readerlife the eyebrows I'm just so caught up in this astrology talk I'm Mike Davis

Mingu$69 ran I am not impressed with this panel I want to see prettier females in the future sorry to disappoint Mike Davis I was a fan of you before but after that I

Brian Atlasdon't know wow like to see your face on here she wait speaking of yeah scroll it down just a little bit this is Mike Davis he's uh he's the resident roaster he likes to roast a lot

Brian Atlasscroll it up a little bit you're cutting off his Burger King hat he owns multiple Burger Kings many Burger Kings I like how breakfast actually Mike Davis is single

Brian Atlasso well he doesn't like anybody over here so can I say you you he's not impressed he's not impressed not impressed got Mike Davis maybe say something nice and knock can I can set

Brian Atlasup a date can I get you a date with one of the ladies okay anyways uh I didn't want to come to you actually over here so you've never had a boyfriend ever never you doesn't even sound like you've been on a date no are you are you

Brian Atlasreligious at all or no just haven't found the right guy yeah okay so I mean you've never done anything with a guy then not beside kissing okay so you're

Brian Atlasso you're a virgin then yeah and are you waiting until marriage or no no just the right guy yeah do you have a sense of maybe you're not waiting until marriage

Brian Atlasbut like I assume you don't want to have a one night stand too no I didn't you'd prefer would you prefer to be like a a boyfriend at least M something like that

Brian Atlasokay good times and are you um thinking maybe sophomore year is going to be the year or are you still going to just be forever alone I

Daniellemean I don't know forever alone I hope not what sorry okay so if you don't want to wait till marriage like I'm kidding I'm kidding how do you determine um it just seems a little ambiguous for me like how long do you have to be with a

Manah/Madison (mixed)boyfriend or I mean I don't think you have to be with anyone for anything like or like I I'm okay with um one night stce too like I wouldn't do it because I just don't think i' would be comfortable if I don't know the person but you're fine

Brian Atlaswith it yeah like I don't have nothing against it okay you know what we should do we should do the Bumble section so we're going to do a segment

TTS/Chat readercalled actually it doesn't even have a name but bumbling we're going to have you each get oh hold on remember

TTS/Chat readerMemorial Day donated $69 hi Brian US Army veteran here joined age 28 now 33 physically SL Mally messed up

TTS/Chat readerfrom it affecting dating life versus before lost RZ body pain wondering the girls thoughts SL advice with exmilitary

Brian Atlasso like would they date a guy who is exmilitary I think I could frame the question like that uh would you date a guy how about let me would you date a

TTS/Chat readerguy who's well you did say exmilitary Timothy donated $69 brixon what are you going to do with

TTS/Chat readerall that junk all that junk inside your trunk you should consult your doctor to see if twerking is right for you good the twerk doctor um thank you Timothy uh

Brian Atlasso would you guys date H how do I frame this a guy who was in the because he says exmilitary would you date a

Manah/Madison (mixed)veteran oh I'm sorry I was reading that uh yes I would I had to reboot um yeah you would what about you yeah I mean just like any

Minguperson I got to know who they are okay yeah absolutely I have dated um exmilitary and they he had PTSD and it that was really scary so you wouldn't

Minguassum if you were single you wouldn't dat somebody if they saw like combat like intense combat I would say no but if they were they didn't do much didn't

Brian Atlassee much then I would say yeah I have no problem yeah I would date them me too Rachel well uh yeah I mean if I was if I was single and yeah if he wereing yeah

Brian Atlasokay and uh wait shoot I had a question related to this but uh uh he's so he's joined at age 28 he's

Brian Atlasnow 33 is this Mason from the future a Mason good luck Mason yeah he's going off to the well he's going off to the

Brian AtlasAir Force dating life wondering the girls thoughts advice the exmilitary I don't really know what kind of advice he

Manah/Madison (mixed)wants advice see a therapist not like in a bad way but therapy you talk about therapy no wait

Brian Atlashold on where there's something else go to wait oh I remember what it was wait so you're saying like you and your totally off topic you said you like to argue with your husband can we do a role

Brian Atlasplay here like let me hear you angry go ahead I'm your husband take it out on me go ahead it's good it's therapeutic you said he likes to poke

Rachel Wilsonyou a little bit right say something mean to her make her mad a man like be like uh you really sucked out there on that surfboard today you know you missed

Minguthat [ __ ] set wave what do you [ __ ] C so he'll watch me compete sometimes and he'll say that kind of stuff he'll be like God you were paddling so slow why did you not wait

Mingufor the B and um what would I say back to him but he's a good coach so I appreciate his feedback um in the moment I'd be like that's really not a good time to be

Mingusaying that to me after I just got out of the water I don't know say it how you would say it if we were arguing that's really [ __ ] up do you really have to talk to me like that right now I just got out of the water

Rachel Wilsonlet me put my jersey away there we go that pretty good well I don't know if it was good I mean it was good she got in the roll she got into the mood cuz

TTS/Chat readeryou're like kind of softspoken and no but there's another there's a dark there's a dark side of cloud flying donated $69 ladies you must choose boy friend

TTS/Chat readerwho thinks astrology is whack bullshite or become a submissive wife Rachel what does submissive mean to you okay so first question boyfriend who thinks

Brian Atlasastrology is whack wait what choose so dat a guy who thinks astrology is whack or become a submissive

Minguwife okay that those are the options go together but yeah it's going to so you have to choose I know I like if you're if you're if she your friend's like oh what sign are you and

Minguthe guy that you were dating is like I think that's stupid I don't believe in any that stuff would you rather date a bunch of men that don't believe in astrology

Brian Atlasso I mean I already don't I mean no offense I don't care but um so yeah so the choice is you have to date a guy who

Rachel Wilsonthinks astrology is [ __ ] or you have to or you have to be a submissive housewife what that's I think we all think that like the guy who thinks astrology is whack is probably going to

Brian Atlasbe the same guy that you're s housewife to is that what we're well I guess the scenario question is probably direct here's the scenario so the boyfriend thinks astrology is whack but it's a

Brian Atlas50/50 relationship or you become a submissive housewife but he's all for astrology I guess that's the cely but I would be the submissive housewife yeah

Danielleokay what about you I'd be the submissive housewife wife but why does he believe in astrology yeah yeah I'm having a hard time with

Brian Atlasthe believing in astrology thing um I would date the guy who thinks astrology is whack I think I would be the submissive housewife wait you would date the

Brian Atlasastrology is whack guy yeah versus being the submissive wife yeah do you not want to be submissive in your relationship like what do you mean by submissive like bowing

Rachel Wilsonwell that was the second part of the question yeah so the second part is Rachel what does submissive mean to you to me uh it's a Biblical thing but I

Rachel Wilsonthink in general it just means that you submit to your husband so in all things so there's none of this um well you have to consult me first and I have to agree with everything and you

Rachel Wilsonhave to justify everything before you can make the decision and we had you know like the the 50/50 thing I think submission is is you're saying look yes you're in charge of everything and I submit to your will in all things but

Rachel Wilsonalso that's because you have all the responsibility so you need the authority to go with the responsibility right if we want the men to defend us with their life pay for everything handle all the

Rachel Wilsontough situations then they need the authority to go along with that level of responsibility I would say so if you

TTS/Chat readerwent home and Andrew was like Rachel astrology is real Mike Davis donated

TTS/Chat reader$69 nothing honorable about being a puppet on the strings serving people who view you as disposable our enemies aren't some poor bum in cave in Afghanistan but our leaders here military services low

Brian AtlasIQ is this in response to that military G I don't know yo Mike Davis thank you dude good to see you back in the chat I've been wondering where you were I know you've been busy with them Burger King franchises let me just say this

Rachel WilsonMike Davis you will always be welcome at the whatever podcast you'll get it your way at the whatever podcast Mike

TTS/Chat readerDavis Ben George donated $69 would you date a paramilitary member that BS to his wife and has a PHD in

Brian Atlasastrology what sure oh oops um super Chatters are drinking today okay we'll go around then we'll

Brian Atlascome back to the submissive submission thing I'll say sure

Anzasure uh way they believe in astrology is that what it said yeah they have a PhD in it oh they have a PhD oh uh and

Ebony Janthey'll bow to you h no yeah it

Manah/Madison (mixed)no no no no no did you want I I don't know if you two were having a she was asking

Mingusomething about if Andrew was into astrology she I could totally see him doing you'll get home off the plane and he'll be like Rachel astrology is legit yeah I think we all can see Andrew being

Rachel Wilsonsuper into ay we can all foresee that happening would you submit to that no no because the thing about biblical submission is the one thing we don't

Rachel Wilsonhave to submit to is if our husband is like trying to get us to do something inherently sinful like something that is especially like a mortal sin like apostasy no you don't have to submit to

Brian Atlasthat wait I have a question in under uh Orthodox Christianity is uh being an apostate punishable by death no okay is that just

Rachel Wilsonin Islam yeah right as far as I'm aware I don't know any other religions where they kill you for it okay I just wasn't sure explain what an apostate is it's when you leave the religion so like say you're a baptized Orthodox Christian and

Rachel Wilsonyou turn your back on the religion and you no longer practice or believe it um we do think that you'll be judged much more harshly right than somebody who was never baptized and doesn't believe so

Manah/Madison (mixed)was nevered Jehovah's Witnesses like my grandmother's a Jehovah's Witness so like if you if you leave the church or whatever they shun you they sh

Brian Atlasthey'll shun your get shun like your family too yeah so we have a question here from Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on the scene one to 10 grow

TTS/Chat readerZulu donated $69 so abortion thoughts okay why not um we'll come back to stiffler's question

Brian Atlasdidn't you say that you had a couple if I recall yes okay uh just really quick who uh who's shove hands who's pro-choice shove

Brian Atlashands who's pro-choice wait okay who's Pro

Brian Atlaslifee you guys like roommates or something don't you guys live together we're neighbors oh neighbors do you guys like argue about this [ __ ] or no we haven't Ted oh okay that's the end of

Brian Atlasthat friendship going to UCSB okay uh so I don't know I don't really talk about abortion on the show

Rachel Wilsonbut I mean you got anything Rael you against it I'm against it yeah we believe that it's you know Murder

TTS/Chat readerso Nickelodeon donated $69 ladies of the panel of the men you've had a romantic relationship with what percentage would you say were narcissistic or

TTS/Chat readersociopathic shout out RW you were great on timcast Chen was insufferable I like Lauren not like not in that way but like

TTS/Chat readershe she's been on the show I thought she reasonable Rey's television donated $69 come to that LS girl hi sister Andrew said he wants to debate an LDS person I

TTS/Chat readerdon't think I'm ready for a conversation Doctrine wise but would you be willing if so Brian SL Rachel can you make it

Daniellehappen I mean would you want to debate debate like Andrew Wilson um yeah that's I don't know if are you a debater I don't know if I'm like a debater I definitely feel like he would scare me

TTS/Chat readerto Pieces definitely feel like I $69 would you rather your past partners remember you as the best sex they've had or the best relationship they've had

Brian Atlasassume average in the other of what you pick anime thighs are my demise okay interesting name uh really quick before we get to that we had Nickelodeon uh of the men you've had and

Brian Atlasby the way Nickelodeon I did read your chat that came in a while back it took me a while to get to it but just wanted to let you know I did read it Mike Davis $69 yo MD the message is simple serving

TTS/Chat readerin the military is nothing but beta Behavior bowing to Masters who wouldn't shed a tear over your death enemies aren't abroad they're right here in a suit and tie Mike Davis though do you

Brian Atlasthink there been any wars at least in the US history that were righteous or any military conflicts in recent history that have been righteous Wars or do you

Brian Atlasthink they've all been like nah okay anyways thank you Mike Davis appreciate it wait so okay we had two things here Nickelodeon asks of the men you've had romantic relationships

Brian Atlaswith would you say they were narcissistic or sociopathic yes definitely how many how

Brian Atlasmany men what' you say um three out of four three out of four what about you any narcissists or

Brian Atlassociopaths I wouldn't necessarily Define it like that no okay what about you yes

Rachel Wilsonno no not applicable not na na na no no okay but I will say If you think the majority of your past partners have been

Ebony Jannarcissists it's it's a you thing you're the common denominator there J's fired do you care to respond to the accusation um it's been one of my partners and I got out of

Rachel Wilsonthat so I'm willing to admit that I was accepting of that and now I'm not I think if it's one like say you've dated 10 guys and it's one that could be a oneoff that could be a wild card but if

Manah/Madison (mixed)it's three out of four you got to look have bad choices in men that's what it is cuz it's it's honestly truly not me but yeah to each their own

Brian Atlasword okay and then we we did have from anime thighs or my demise I I'll let her read it

TTS/Chat readeragain anime thighs are my demise donated $69 would you rather your past partners remember you as the best sex they've had or the best relationship they've had

Manah/Madison (mixed)assume average in the other of what you pick you rather your past partners remember he's the best they've had the best relationship they've had H I'd rather be the best

Rachel Wilsonrelationship best relationship relationship best relationship best relationship best relationship best relationship me too wow that's

Rachel Wilsoninteresting we finally have a consensus best sex I think most guys would say that don't you think I that guys would generally rather be remembered for the

Brian Atlasbest D and not like oh he was such a great boyfriend you know what I mean yeah H okay anyways thank you for that

Brian Atlasquestion um let's see here where were we oh Stiffler of course Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale

Brian Atlasof 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead 10 seven 10 seven

Manah/Madison (mixed)seven I'm like right now five or six but like if I had time to get ready and stuff probably like a seven or an eight I think a seven I'd say five who said

Ebony Jan10 all right now pause as somebody that likes Natural Women if a woman says they think them themselves are a 10 how is that bad don't you have lip filler I

Brian Atlasdo I also like modesty in women you know that's kind of a thing but I'm just going to say it Brian you always say you two are not tense and you're oh I didn't

Brian Atlasraid myself I'm a five there you go average I'm average looking I lose a little weight I could I could get back to a six if I was better shape ATT 10 to you as a ironing board which is fine an

Brian Atlasironing board she's saying you don't like girls with tits and ass ah no I never said that right he just said he prefers say F saying I would prefer a girl so that's a t you though right what

Brian Atlasdo you mean no no no okay it was about plastic surgery I'm not saying I'm big boobs are nice big butt is nice I'm not but if it's a choice between flat boobs

Brian Atlasand fake titties I'd prefer small flat over fake titties now if you're like would you prefer a C cup over a cup I'd have a slight preference

Rachel Wilsonfor the C cup but I don't I'm a labia guy but here's my can you think of like a woman that we know who you would consider a 10 yeah like what celebrity

Danielleyeah there's no tens okay Peri there accept that so when you're talking about like modesty are you referencing there's face and body those are two different categories okay I have a question so if

Anzathe woman because you said you don't rate 10 it's just at most probably a nine right yeah okay so say that person you would rate a nine and then you ask them would you rate how would you rate yourself and they say nine because they

Anzarate themselves exactly as you would does that not count because it's not modest or or would would you then if my if my if nine assessment of them is that they're nine and they're they're saying

Daniellethey're nine I wouldn't object to their assessment no just generally curious yeah yeah does your modesty lend itself to other aspects or is it just like what do you mean how well so you say you like modest women yeah how they talk about

Daniellethemselves do you like modest women when it comes to clothing and things like that mhm okay yeah I don't want to date a girl who's uh like it's not a Hu like she's

Brian Atlasgot a bikini photo on her Instagram it's not like I mean I would prefer if she had honestly no social media at all or minimal social media or a private social

Brian Atlaslike private Instagram right and she posted tasteful modest photos um so yes I do prefer modesty in those Realms too public facing modesty

Rachel Wilsonabsolutely um yeah okay so when you guys say you're a 10 does that mean that you think you are perfect looking or is it more like I'm a 10 she think she's perfect because she wants to get plastic that's why I was

Brian Atlasasking good argument that's what I was I want to be a 20 you said you're a 10 but you said you want lip filler and fake tits and uh the hip fillers the hip fillers and do and Botox yep well how

Manah/Madison (mixed)can you possibly be a 10 if you want those cosmetic procedures I can still feel like I'm a 10 cuz I know that I'm beautiful I just want to be more beautiful but hold on if you're you can't be more beautiful than most's no

Brian Atlasroom for improvement right I want tend like perfect break scale you you want to huh break the scale break the scale well you got to eat a lot more food if you want to do that I'm why is got get obese you got Sor I'm just wondering why

TTS/Chat readerthat's so important to you why this but heav toe donated $69 what is ebony's on lean's name I like the bar there short shorts but I need to know if she has the proper sized

Rachel Wilsoncakes to workk D it's actually a skirt but it's fine um yeah I don't disclose that but thank you though it sounds to me like you think that if you can achieve physical Perfection It'll like

Rachel Wilsonmake up for something it'll fix something in your life is that why or like why do you value your looks like so much that you always been into that like since I was a kid like I've always been into like Beauty and stuff like that

Rachel Wilsonlike I used to wake up at 3:00 in the morning to do my hair why it was just something that I did was it because of you wanted to people to perceive you a certain way or is this

Rachel Wilsonfor me like when I feel like I look good I feel good do you feel like you have more to offer than your looks of course okay I was just wondering if there was a

Rachel Wilsonconnection with like you dated mostly narcissists and guys who were like you would say abusive to you like emotionally like you said you were forced to an abortion and these guys are narcissist you have picked bad men and

Rachel Wilsonthen you're hyper focused on your looks does that kind of sounds like it all goes together to me like a package I mean it could but it is what it is I

Ebony Jandon't know okay I mean I just want to say the question I feel like all comes down to it's subjective so how do I feel about myself that's how I answered it I'm not going to say that I'm a 10 to you a 10

Ebony Janto you a 10 to you or you guys can feel as though you're a seven to myself I'm going to answer 10 cuz that's how I feel about myself so you don't think there's like an objective standard of beauty

Daniellelike there is but for myself wait what so subjective that's what I said that's what I said yeah what she was asking you do you think there's an objective standard standard of beauty

Danielleso like you could have 10 people in a line and objectively one would be an eight and another one would be a

Ebony Janfour yeah [Music] but the question as far as how it was asked ask everyone to rate their looks

Ebony Janon a scale of 1 to 10 so I answered how I felt but that's all I'm saying I wasn't asked to rate everybody sitting here I was ask to rap myself how I feel

TTS/Chat readermyself P donated $69 patriotic helmet girl is pretty damn close to a 10 it is not just about looks

Brian Atlasshe is the whole package I was like speaking of which show us the other side you guys uh do you guys like the change up you prefer the Hat over the

Brian Atlashelmet Nick pull up the pull up the uh pull up the chat pull up the chat let's see the chat guys do you prefer the helmet or the chat or the

Brian AtlasHat do you prefer the helmet oh Nick exposed uh do you prefer this hat or the helmet in general I know it's like

Brian AtlasMemorial Day weekend but the the flag hat or the German Helmet flag hat or helmet bojang donated

TTS/Chat reader$69 would you rather your hypothetical lonely son use sex workers or have an AI girlfriend which of the two is worse would you rather your high lonely

Brian Atlasson use sex workers I'm going to go with I got to go with AI girlfriend I'd prefer the AI girlfriend I would say the same thing

Anzacuz diseases exist yeah I prefer the AI girlfriend fo show I want to say it depends on how far AI advances uh because for once I mean are

Anzawe going to get real human connection that way can they learn something you think you'll get that from a sex worker you can't get well I mean they're still going to they're they're there for a reason yes um but I think you there's at

Anzaleast still a smidgen more opportunity to learn human behavior if that makes sense from a sex worker well I mean you still get to read some body language you can still maybe tell if they're not really as into it as

TTS/Chat readerthey would like to be you know you can you can read someone what even when they're wait is that what you want in a sex worker encounter that she's not into Cherry donated $69 it's my birth day and would love for

Brian Atlasy'all to sing Happy Birthday do it for champagne pop you do champagne pop the rate for it is in the description we'll we'll pop champagne for you and we will sing you happy birthday if you pop a

Brian Atlaschampagne bottle uh let's do quick answers on this so would you rather your hypothetical lonely son have use a sex worker or have an AI girlfriend

Minguai ai is it just for sex or is it like what is it for like a relationship both so the AI is a

Rachel Wilsongirlfriend and the sex worker is probably just going to be for sex yeah

Brian Atlaslike he okay when and then the ai ai ai I guess AI dystopian Future

Brian AtlasOkay um so let's see here oh we were talking about the rating thing okay well I have a couple clarifying questions here for you

Brian Atlasguys here's another test all else being equal do you think you will be be more physically attractive in 10 years time for you and you actually we'll ask everybody

Brian Atlasthis yeah okay so you're 24 so you'll be more physically attractive at 34 hell yeah okay what about you me I hope so I mean I I you're 25 so more attractive at

Brian Atlas35 I aim to work towards that future okay but so okay what about you you're 28 will you be more attractive at 38

Minguthan you are now yep okay what about you no no um no but I think that I'm more attractive now than when I was 10 years

Brian Atlasyounger so you're more attractive now at 32 than you were at 22 Yeah question do you have any photos of you at 22 that we can open this up to the I

Mingumight but they're like old Facebook stuff with stupid like filters that like I don't know

Brian Atlaslet me look uh what about you yeah do you think you'll be so you're 18 you'll be more attractive at 28 yeah okay I think you're 18 you'll be more attractive at

Rachel Wilson28 yes I guess Rachel are you too on this absolutely not like that's total that's Peak delusional to think that you're going to be hotter in 10 years I this is one of the ones that just stumps

Rachel Wilsonme when we like oh I'll totally be hotter in 10 years like even if you look good for your age in 10 years even if you like lost weight things like that it's

Rachel Wilsonlike you don't get hotter as you age as a woman that's not how it works like attractiveness physical attractiv some some women that really do

Rachel Wilsonthere's J looks great for being 60 or whatever she is but JLo is not hotter at 60 than she was at 30 or 20 because you said Beyonce is not

Rachel Wilsonhotter now than she was 20 years no none of these women gorgeous as they are at an old age are hotter now than they were when they were young I'm going toow viros I'm going to allow that because you said physically okay but I really

Minguthink that knowledge is sexy yeah but we're talking about physical attractiv will say I will say that um I think in general people who are 10 years younger

Rachel Wilsonare way more attractive for me in particular I think I got cuter I think there's some people that might have like a drastic transformation like say you

Rachel Wilsonwere 250b when you were 22 and then you get in shape and you look amazing like 10 years later okay but like in general outlier situation yeah and all things being equal yeah that is the question

Brian Atlasall things being equal so people like to do this thing of like well yeah at 21 I was morbidly

Brian Atlasobese and then at 31 I was in I was healthy body weight got the excess skin removed got plastic surgery perfected my

Brian Atlasskill with makeup up whatever it is uh it's comparing like imagine you had all those things oh I learned how to dress better I did my makeup better lost weight skin care Etc if you had all

Rachel Wilsonthose things at 21 and at 31 how can the answer not be you're better looking at 21 or you could think of it this way take two eights two women who are an eight they're exactly the

Daniellesame on the attractiveness scale but one of them is 35 and one of them is 22 men are going to go for the 22y old every single time I think you also have to consider too like we're all women and I don't know how many of you want to

Daniellehave children but like I will definitely have children within the next 10 years and that will take a toll on my body and so yeah I'm not going to be more

Brian Atlasattractive in 10 years from now so we found um oh God we found a picture of you this is actually 11 years ago April

Brian Atlas5th 2013 your very first photo a on Instagram Nick I'm going to link that in

Brian Atlasthe private chat linked okay April 5th 2013 the chat is going to

Brian Atlascompare granted we have you in 1080P and this is from 2013

Brian Atlasbut you can uh yeah sure no it's fine oh God yeah so that's you uh Nick hide move us up

Brian Atlasplease so oh just so it's April 5th 2013 so what that's 11 years ago right my mouth startes me okay get your cheek I

Brian Atlasknow was she I mean look it's one photo compared to you know Studio

Brian Atlaslighting she's cuter you oh my god mid to Mid what the [ __ ] guys be nice okay

Danielleuh I would say you look the same too pretty much like you look you're still attractive you're still attractive yeah like you look like you've aged a little bit but you're not like

Danielleunattractive oh what okay um okay you can you can I don't know I think I I don't know I think you look great thanks really what what do you think

Brian Atlasyour husband would say oh yeah you guys have been dating for eight years oh well I think he would say that I'm more attractive now I don't know I

Brian Atlasdon't know what he would say he's a pretty realistic guy I don't know you think he would cause an argument if he were to tell her you were hotter you were hotter 8 years ago you

Minguthink that would be a good thing for your boyfriend well so um my husband and I watch the show together and we have discussions about the questions that you

Minguasked and so when we first started watching the rate your looks thing we rated each other yeah oh really yes what did he give you he gave me I think like

Brian Atlasa 6.5 good for him yeah is he watching right now what's up dude let's hit ringcom what's up he's actually asleep cuz he's going to go to work at midnight

Mingubut he'll watch this when he wakes up um but yeah he's pretty realistic I think he thinks I'm more attractive now okay I was just like a dorky 20-year-old I

Brian Atlaswasn't like this cute I was a dork I don't know you know yourself better and it shows yeah by the way just want to be clear like with this whole thing uh like

Brian AtlasI don't it's not like oh you're 32 you're worthless you're unattractive it's not that and it's not to say that women who are in their 30s there's

Brian Atlasabsolutely beautiful attractive women's uh in their uh excuse me 30s 40s Etc yeah it's not like oh once you hit 30 once you hit 40 you're just unattracted no not not at all but it's more so like

Brian Atlasokay well like if we're just looking at this we're zooming out we're looking at it just kind of objectively look were you more attractive at 25 versus 35 and aging is a biological reality when you

Daniellesay more attractive too like you mean strictly physically cuz I think a lot of people are incorporating like oh maybe I will have done this with my career maybe I will like this more

Brian Atlasconfident I mean I but here's the thing even with that I I mean unless a girl is an absolute mess in her 20s I don't think people tend to get I

Brian Atlasmean they can but like a lot people get jaded as they get older like me personally me personally I was much more optim I was probably more uh Pleasant

Rachel Wilsonand optimistic 10 years ago now I'm jaded it is what it is people got so mad when Andrew rated me a six on here they were like how can you I would divorce

Rachel Wilsonhim immediately he's such a terrible abusive awful person and I was like I rate I rated myself a five cuz I was streaming at the same time and I was like I'd give myself a five and people

Rachel Wilsongot mad about that too so so who's a 10 to you huh who would you say is a 10 to you probably like Grace Kelly or like uh

Rachel Wilsonuh Vivian Lee the actors who played scarlet and Gone With the Wind like she's just her facial symmetry is insane and gorgeous I have a question I'm just

Brian Atlasa normal Midwestern mom so both of you said you'll be better looking in 10 years both of you but you also said that your currently

TTS/Chat readerT is donated $69 given the societal emphasis on Youth and Beauty why do you think many people strive to look younger rather than

Rachel Wilsonembracing their natural aging process is this a rhetorical question or I mean he kind of answered his own question mhm people scribe to look

TTS/Chat readeryounger because there's an emphasis on Youth and beauty ripped rich and rare donated $69 Rachel how does it feel to have a beta fat boy husband that has bigger

Rachel Wilsontits than you that's a bag of trash men don't have tits pull up his shirt and tell me you're [ __ ] proud of that [ __ ] Andrew is super hot so you're barking up the wrong tree and he does

Rachel Wilsonnot have tits he was like hunched over on the stool he's gorgeous what would you rate your husband I think he's an eight and a half he thinks that that's insane but Andrew's a handsome guy aome

Brian Atlashe's a handsome he's a handsome guy he is he's a handsome guy um wait so okay you both rated yourselves tens you think you'll both be better looking in 10

Brian Atlasyears so you're 24 you're 28 so at 34 38 how can you possibly be a 10 now if you will be better looking in 10 years time I could still be a 10 I could still be a

Manah/Madison (mixed)10 it's woman math Ryan I don't get it though like if you're going to be better looking be a 10 now and then like progress and still be a

Ebony Jan10 okay you want me to change my answer okay I'm I'm a six don't change don't I don't know I just want to don't I want to rate myself what I want to rate myself so you know I want to go around the table on one last thing on this and

Manah/Madison (mixed)then we're going to move on how about 20 years will you be more physically attractive in 20 years

Manah/Madison (mixed)time so I'll be 44 um yeah

Manah/Madison (mixed)but the thing is is black don't corck so erone oh I you're yeah wait what black don't crack so oh I'm going to age differently

Brian Atlasthan most people 30 years I still look good my mom looks amazing erroneous

Brian Atlaserroneous scar will you look better in 30 years than you do now okay and 30 years old would say I look

Brian Atlasbetter but you'll be kind of at the end of the Peak at 54 yeah I wouldn't be a 20 anymore I'd be a 15 like so you think

Brian Atlaslike 44 that's like kind of the peak no oh when's your Peak 70 all right okay that's a troll answer now I don't know what your answer was uh

Brian Atlasbetter looking in 20 years I said I would try to aim for that yeah no but do you think you will be better looking in 20 years at the rate I'm taking care of myself yes so you'll be better looking

Anzaat 45 than you are now at 25 oh at 45 oh sorry I thought we say 10 years so 20 years no I mean I think there's but so 10 years yes 20 years now 20 years I

Anzathink there's going to be some uh mileage okay no not in 20 years are you just don't tell me what I

Ebony Janwant here no honestly that's that's being delusional that all yeah no no no no definitely not all right uh well there

Brian Atlasyou have it folks um we are going to do uh one question then I'm going to have Maddie sit down for a little bit uh do you guys

TTS/Chat readerobject oh bday girl Don $999 pop champagne get to drinking and sing happy

Rachel Wilsonbirthday yeah opera singer can you do the uh Magic Flute song again again yeah really quick she sing the Happy Birthday song to the guy turn what down Nick maybe not since he

Background/minordidn't wait what audio I was just going to turn down the sound she was where did you turn it down where are you going to turn it down

Brian AtlasI don't work for free I don't know if that's G to help but okay fine yeah do it we're going to pop champagne did you do it Nick yeah okay go ahead Magic

Brian AtlasFlute boom um [Laughter]

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Brian Atlasnice look at that you got a champagne pop and some Opera Mozart did you turn you turn it back up Nick all right here we go let's see if I

Brian Atlascan get it this time all right boys while we're doing that um um I'll just ask a throwaway question really quick while I'm getting this champagne figured

Brian Atlasout who's the primary victim of who's the primary victim of war men or women starting with you going around the table war huh of War victim of War

Brian Atlasyeah men yeah men are dying men men men men men men all right Rachel you got any questions

Rachel Wilsonfor the girls while I get this champagne going um somebody already asked the narcissism

Rachel Wilsonquestion um do you guys think there's any correlation between the amount of kids that are born out of wedlock

Rachel Wilsonnowadays and the growth of the welfare state do you think that those connect at all what was your question again so like in 1960 I think it was something like 5%

Rachel Wilsonof babies in the US were born out of wedlock now it's something like 40% do you think that that change in a short period of time like we're talking 50 years do you think that had any

Manah/Madison (mixed)bearing on the growth of the welfare state come on over that same time period yes but I also think there's other factors that go into it like [ __ ] you

Manah/Madison (mixed)need some help people don't really care to be married anymore paper towel or

Brian Atlassomething there you go I need a little leverage okay there we go

Brian AtlasI oh there you go that reaction cheers okay uh we'll get that going uh who's over

Rachel Wilson21 sorry guys one day one day do I get extra because I'm the oldest she can have mine I don't

Manah/Madison (mixed)drink alcohol Rachel while I I don't all right want see that's been my problem boys I got clammy hands gives me a

Anzaheadache do I get to keep this sweet cup like forast yes you can have it as AO if it's mixed yeah you can't even

Mingufind these cups anymore that's what I'm saying I'm we're running out we are running out of these I'm going to put it in like a shadow box and keep it for years oh wait that's it I guess just me and you Bo are you getting one no thank

TTS/Chat readeryou she said gives her a headache okay do you want some uh here this just Gerald donated $69 Mrs Wilson if there is one book I

Rachel Wilsonmust read what is the title it's this one occult feminism the secret history of women's liberation has everything you need to know in

Minguit cheers to bears bears to be to bears for taking

Brian Atlasone Galactica should we also cheers to whoever uh it was uh bday

Brian Atlasgirl get to drinking and singing oh we were going to do happy birthday okay uh we'll do the truncated short version of this right I don't know do you want

TTS/Chat readerto lead lead us here all right GMD gim donated $69 Brian even though we placed embargos

TTS/Chat readerand froze Japan's bank accounts here before Pearl Harbor our war with Japan was our only righteous war in last 150

Rachel Wilsonyears because of their attack on our soil I would say not even that way was I would go back to before uh World War I personally Civil War yeah I think that

Rachel Wilsoneverything revolutionary from World War I on has had like false flags and shenanigans and [ __ ] going on including World

Brian AtlasWar exactly yep okay cool uh so bday girl CH Cherry it's my birthday and

TTS/Chat readerwould love for yall to sing Happy Birthday to me uh okay to to Cherry Ben George donated $69 to your previous discussion

TTS/Chat reader18-year-old men see women is hot between 18 to 20 men that are 60 see women is hot from 18 to 50 the older a man is the

Brian Atlaswider range of choice word isn't it the case though I've seen some like a study or a chart that showed that even as men got older they in terms

Brian Atlasof what they just deemed most physically attractive not uh factoring in other things it was like 20 to 20 to 22 23 typically was the

Brian Atlasrange of like hey who's the most attractive physically I don't know anyways uh Happy Birthday

Brian Atlasto happy birthday to youth happy birthday dear Cherry

Brian Atlaswhatever the [ __ ] your name is happy birthday to you cheers okay so where were we we were talking oh do you object

Manah/Madison (mixed)to a man caring about a woman's body count oh do you object to that I would understand why someone would care

Manah/Madison (mixed)but that's all I'm going to say about it tell us how you really feel say with your chest yeah I just feel like if men can have high

Manah/Madison (mixed)body counts why can't women if that's what if that was their choice I have so many thoughts but I'll wait till you okay yeah we'll get we'll get everybody's

Brian Atlasanswers and so for you uh you would object to a man caring about a woman's body count yeah that that could be the answer like is he insecure why does he

TTS/Chat readercare blank Ken donated $69 so Andrew's wife lifts weights and he doesn't interesting LOL she's just as aggressive

TTS/Chat readertoo Queen pck me this is not a dating pod this is a men's rights and grievance pod you became what you hate I'm not a men's rights Advocate yeah that's me get

Brian Atlasit right Ken um we talk about dating look we're talking about body count right now uh do you object to men caring about a woman's body

Ebony Jancount um I just don't personally see why it matters but I mean you do you mhm okay

Ebony Januh same like n said I can understand why but I also think that it should not be a a thing what should not be a thing um a

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