Rachel Wilson vs. Feminists! She Is A 10! Better Looking In 20 Years? LDS Dating? | Dating Talk #164

Date: 2024-05-27
Duration: 6h 20m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Anza(guest)
SPEAKER_04Ebony Jan(guest)
SPEAKER_06Manah/Madison (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Mingu(guest)
SPEAKER_13Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_14Danielle(guest)

Key Moments

00:06:13
OtherAnza performs opera live: Queen of the Night from The Magic Flute, then The Fifth Element aria. Brian gives it an A-minus despite no warm-up. First time opera has been performed live on the show per Brian.

let's hear let's wait God what did I say uh the the hold on hold what's it called it's uh the the Queen the night ARA

00:23:52
OtherManah discloses multiple abortions from her situationship relationships. Said matter-of-factly during relationship status round.

I've had a couple abortions because of like it was yeah just a lot of stuff

02:39:43
TopicRachel Wilson asks panel about plastic surgery culture; launches major discussion about cosmetic procedures, social media pressure, and BBL dangers.

what do you guys think about all the plastic surgery that ladies are getting these days

02:40:50
OtherManah discloses she was sexually assaulted as a child and in high school, explaining her preference for bear over man in the man vs. bear question.

I was assault away as a kid and a lot of a couple of my first experiences in like sexually was also that like in high school so I just feel like I'd rather be maul

02:43:06
OtherManah lists all cosmetic procedures she plans to get: lips, breast augmentation, hip fillers, BBL, lipo, Botox.

um my boobs um fake boobs I want to get hip fillers hip fillers what else BBL lipo I would definitely get BOTOX

02:44:55
OtherRachel Wilson admits she had her teeth done (veneers/crowns) after 5.5 years of braces left permanent staining. Distinguishes cosmetic from enhancement procedure.

I did get my top teeth done as well I forgot to say that

02:49:53
OtherMadison reveals her aunt died from BBL complications, leaving behind two young children including a newborn.

my aunt died you got this m my inside from getting a BBL um she just didn't wake up from the anesthesia

03:10:27
QuoteRachel Wilson says she would 'do backflips' for Andrew Wilson if he asked. States Andrew gets whatever Andrew wants.

would you B Andrew I would do backflips I would whatever Andrew wants

05:47:16
QuoteChat donation from Selena calls Madison 'a 10' (likely the origin of the episode title 'She Is A 10!'). Brian confirms and announces Madison will start streaming on Twitch.

also Maddie is a 10 thank you Selena

05:49:06
OtherDanielle tells revenge story from age 17: filled ex's underwear with peanut butter and rubbed it on his brand new motorcycle. Husband drove her to do it.

I filled his underwear with peanut butter and I rubbed it over his brand new motorcycle

Topics Discussed

00:03:54
Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, location, occupation. Manah reveals two concurrent situationships with fighting men on day of show. Danielle reveals LDS faith and marriage. Mingu reveals married/half-Taiwanese. Anza performs opera live (Queen of the Night / Fifth Element aria).

01:22:00
Feminism debate: definition and personal identification

Rachel Wilson and Brian debate what feminism actually means. Guests initially call themselves feminist, then retreat after probing questions. Rachel defines feminism as women's advocacy movement with male bigotry; not an equality movement.

01:44:00
Women in the military / selective service / draft

Should women be subject to Selective Service draft? Most guests say no. Rachel argues force and defense has always been male domain. Discussion of Special Forces women failing standards, lowered physical requirements.

01:59:11
Women's happiness decline under feminism (Paradox of Female Happiness)

Rachel cites survey data from 1970s-2000s showing women declining in happiness in societies with most equality. Links to rise in alcoholism, depression, anxiety. Attributes to feminism creating impossible expectations.

02:07:40
Greater male variability hypothesis

Brian presents greater male variability chart: more men at extremes (high and low IQ); women cluster around mean. Discussion of why women rarely reach apex of competitive fields (CEOs, generals, presidents) despite 100 years of equality.

02:23:49
Man vs. Bear debate

Would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Most guests choose man. Manah reveals she was assaulted as a child, explains choosing bear as emotional rather than statistical reasoning. Rachel presents data on low statistical risk from married husband vs. cohabiting partner.

02:31:33
Smashing the patriarchy / what is the patriarchy

Do guests want to smash the patriarchy? Mixed responses. Rachel explains patriarchy as feminist conspiracy theory; argues feminism destroyed male hierarchy leading to beta/gamma males using manipulation instead of being kept in line.

02:39:43
Plastic surgery debate

Rachel asks panel about plastic surgery culture. Manah says she wants lips, BBL, lipo, hip fillers, Botox. Madison shares that her aunt died from BBL complications (left two young children). Brian declares himself a natural body supremacist. Rachel says she has never seen a BBL that looked better. Ebony Jan has had lip filler.

03:03:54
Arguing in relationships / Rachel Wilson and Andrew dynamic

Do couples benefit from arguing? Rachel shares story of throwing remote at Andrew early in relationship; he threatened to leave permanently. She unlearned conflict behavior over time by observing his emotional stability. Mingu shares similar experience.

03:09:14
Bowing to men as respect

Brian plays bow video and asks if guests would bow to a man as a sign of respect. Mingu says bowing is part of her Taiwanese culture; would bow to husband. Danielle says if her husband wanted it she would do it. Manah has stipulations. Anza wants reciprocal respect. Rachel says she would do backflips for Andrew. Brian argues girls who won't bow but want man to take a bullet for them are inconsistent.

03:20:00
OnlyFans and sex work as a career

Is sex work a legitimate career option for women today? Manah and Anza: not for me but do what you want. Danielle: no, not legitimate. Ebony Jan and Manah reveal they have OnlyFans (astrology/twerking and music content; not explicit nudity). Discussion of women faking medical justifications for procedures.

03:20:21
Should men take a bullet for their girlfriend

Would you want your boyfriend to take a bullet for you after 3 months? All guests say yes or probably yes. Brian argues inconsistency with refusing to bow.

04:48:58
Body count and dating standards

Manah asks each guest for body count. Anza: 5. Danielle: 0 (virgin at marriage). Mingu: very low. Madison: 0/1. Rachel: very low, declines out of respect for husband. Rachel argues women don't hold men to same body count standard they hold women. Brian discusses body count thresholds and labia preference.

04:58:08
Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets age range and swipes through 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests say no to nearly all profiles. Manah swipes mostly no but says yes to 1-2. Madison refuses white men in swipe segment (prefers Black men). Racial preferences discussion follows.

05:09:33
Racial preferences in dating

Going around the table on racial preferences. Manah: prefers Black men; does not date white men due to childhood trauma at predominantly white school. Would consider right white man. Ebony Jan: no preference. Anza: no preference. Danielle: preference for white (husband is Chamorro/Filipino). Mingu: no preference. Brian: prefers Asian. Madison: ditto (white preference based on husband).

05:16:14
Roast segment and closing

Brian and guests do a chat-driven roast segment. Mostly mild chat donations. Chat says 'Maddie is a 10' (Selena donation at ~5:47). Danielle shares revenge story from age 17 (peanut butter on ex's underwear and motorcycle). LDS discussion around Book of Mormon and name preferences. Prostitution/sex work definition debate. OnlyFans legality discussion.

Transcript

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01:51:43
Rachel Wilsonblock because back then women had advocacy groups for thing they things they wanted but they weren't a lobbying group they didn't have like voting rights so they weren't able to be as easily politicized they felt like they
01:51:55
Rachel Wilsonhad a moral High Ground to ask for things like we need more Parks we need better schools we need clean air whatever it was um and that if they became just another voting block they would be involved in dirty politics and
01:52:08
Rachel Wilsonthey didn't want to do that they felt like somebody has to be morally neutral and not involved in politics so given all of that do you guys think that women can protect and defend persons in
01:52:19
Anzaproperty sure I mean I first of all I want to go back to the fact that for a long time women weren't allowed to own property or at least not without being married and so actually it was the
01:52:30
Rachel Wilsonopposite it was once you got married you generally whatever belonged to you belong sure but then usually the woman is still living with the family right but why would you so think about why why
01:52:42
Anzaown why do you think women didn't own property do you think it was just the patriarchy like just hat the women and they just wanted to put their boot on their neck and keep them down I don't that ially I I generally think it was
01:52:54
Rachel Wilsonjust a matter of the times like you know we because it was I mean so do you think there was a reason though do you think there was a logic behind not letting I think it worked for back then I think it worked for what it is at that point in time no I think I don't think you
01:53:07
Rachel Wilsonunderstand what I'm saying so if you're a woman and you own land and it's 1802 MH and bandits or cattle robbers or um Indians come and they say we're taking your land what are you going to do about
01:53:21
Rachel Wilsonit but that's exactly my point that worked for that time okay what's different now we don't have that as much I mean depends on the neighborhood of course I mean depends the community okay so if you own land now in 2024 and you
01:53:33
Rachel Wilsonhave a squatter who comes and squats on your property and you need them removed do you call do you call ladies to come and physically remove them or are there men who come and physically remove them
01:53:44
Anzaso I had a Subler who I needed to get rid of and I did all of it my landlord didn't do anything okay what did you do I went to the court and I got the papers
01:53:54
Rachel WilsonI took her to court I won oh wait it was a woman squatter uh yeah oh well okay but did you physically remove her or did cops come well did she willingly after
01:54:06
Anzathe Judgment from the court she willingly left so okay the lease was up she refused to leave and uh and so um you know I got the
01:54:17
Anzapaperwork um I gave her the 3-day notice to vacate which is the proper way to right you're going through the eviction process exactly and so then you know uh and she was still like that's not right that's you're it's totally illegal even
01:54:30
Anzathough I got it literally from the courthouse and so then we're like okay let's get the property eviction papers mind you we still uh had um the papers
01:54:40
Brian Atlasescorted by cops so did did you you both went to the court and there was like the eviction trial yeah and we did well I mean what the eviction trial she so she
01:54:50
Brian Atlasdid leave within the 5 days of receiving the ition oh okay yeah but so let's say she stayed there right yeah cuz I think this is what Rachel is getting at let's say she stayed there you went you you
01:55:00
Brian Atlaseven won the eviction case the judge did an order I don't know typically after the eviction I think they have another period of time it depends on the state it can be 10 days 30 days whatever it is and then the cops will come after a
01:55:13
Brian Atlascertain period of time and then forcibly remove the person I think what Rachel's trying to get at is who's going to forcibly remove the person whether man or woman if they even after getting a
01:55:23
Anzajudgment from a court they still refus to leave right okay um so in this case um because she left within the 5 days I didn't have to have the sheriff remove her but um in I mean at least when uh I
01:55:36
Anzawas giving the papers the cops that were there were men and women yes primarily men but there were women I mean who's to say there can't be more well you you're talking about the process server so you
01:55:47
Anzaserved her with the um so it was my mother who served her but because of the threats she was making we had her escorted uh by foot patrol ah and that was not like a bunch of strong
01:55:58
Rachel Wilsonindependent women who marched it a man and a woman okay and if it had just been a woman do you see what I'm getting at do you see like who who defends our
01:56:08
Rachel Wilsonnational borders not a bunch of feminists right uh the use of force is still always going to be me like when you come men are taller and bigger of course they going they're going to have that physical well I I always got it I
01:56:20
Anzaalways understood right I mean going back to the sports things I mean the men are going to be able to do things that you know women just physically can't so when we talk about
01:56:31
Rachel Wilsonequality the only equality women have is the illusion of equality granted to them and provided for them by men sure I mean that's why I think it depends on the
01:56:42
Rachel Wilsoncontext when it comes to equality personally um if you if you have to appeal to men and say men let us be equal we demand equality and the men go fine we'll
01:56:54
Anzaenforce equality for is that really equality well that's why I think it depends on how it is being handled personally I think so it's up to the men basically it's always going to when you well because they're already in that
01:57:07
Rachel Wilsonposition if I mean if that was I mean if we could flip it and then they'd have to ask us right I mean okay okay so you think we could put women on all the oil rigs and we could put women in the Senate we could put women in the
01:57:20
Anzamilitary as generals we could make them sheriffs and that would work out fine yeah you think so okay so I mean well here's the thing I mean I mean okay uh for example I
01:57:31
Anzaremember watching this one show uh I think it was called stars and stripes and it it took a bunch of celebrities and put them in the position of military it had men and had women the person who ended up winning was uh the skier
01:57:42
Anzapeekaboo streets and she was a woman she beat out actually um is that guy oh she ended up beating out uh like
01:57:52
AnzaSarah Palin's uh husband um and uh this is a reality show where's this where's this go well for ex she ended up winning she was in but they were all put in
01:58:03
Anzaposition of military and she ended up winning it was a woman so do you think that men and women are the same I don't think they're the same I don't I got like again I think physically there are differences okay just physically though
01:58:15
Daniellelike you don't think that men have certain strengths and women have certain strengths and they each have like different divinely appointed roles in existence um well I mean I'm an atheist personally okay um well not okay do you think that they have appointed roles in society in
01:58:28
Danielleorder for society to be mostly successful I think that's how it's come to be so can I ask you another question do you think that women are happier today or do you think that they were
01:58:37
Anzahappier before all of this stuff um I think because it's proven that women are way less happier today okay but is that just the stats we're looking at now as in like those are the stats
01:58:50
Anzawe're taking that's just ignorance is Bliss yeah cuz I mean for example like people like to make the argument that um you know we're seeing a rise in autism okay is it the fact that there's a RIS
01:59:01
Anzain autism or did we just not take into account uh the the fact that you know we didn't know what it was before well so I think people know can actually explain this cuz it's like my area of specialty
01:59:11
Rachel Wilsonthere's um surveys that were done like very large scale surveys that were done in the 70s and then again in the '90s and then again in the early 2000s so the first one that came out was called
01:59:24
Rachel Wilsonthe Paradox of female happiness where when they surveyed women all over the west and asked them if they were how what their satisfaction levels were a ton of different metrics were used um in
01:59:35
Rachel Wilsonthe 70s pretty good pretty happy uh not a lot wrong by the time we get to the '90s and they repeat the survey uh women are declining in happiness in the places
01:59:46
Rachel Wilsonthat they have the most Freedom the most egalitarian society so the the places where women have the most equality are the places where we see them not only
01:59:56
Rachel Wilsonreporting that they have higher levels of self uh unhappiness but also we see a rise in alcoholism fetal alcohol syndrome depression anxiety uh
02:00:07
Rachel Wilsonprescription drug use every metric they look at women are reporting that they are less happy now there's a lot of reasons we can talk about why that might be but I think people don't understand
02:00:18
Rachel Wilsonthat when women are trying to be equal it makes life pretty possible you end up thinking you can have it all do it all be it all your expectations are wildly high and you expect that you're going to
02:00:29
Rachel Wilsonbe able to have a husband and a family and a career and do whatever you want but also have a man who's going to take care of stuff and these things all contradict each other these things do
02:00:39
Rachel Wilsonnot like mesh together well MH on top of that women are more emotionally volatile we have a hormonal cycle every month that you know fluctuates we have
02:00:50
Anzapremenopause we have postpartum you know we we have a lot of ups and downs that we don't have why why does that make us more emotional cuz I mean cuz and I'm genuinely asking a literal hormone in
02:01:01
Anzabody hold on I know I know but I mean for example let's look at like history here so much War has been caused by men well I have something for this actually
02:01:12
Brian Atlasyeah so I mean they they looked at monarchs for example King kings and queens and they actually found that queens were just as or even more like likely to wage war than Kings oh I'm not
02:01:24
Brian Atlasdisagreeing I I think there's some real messed up women in history too truly no but they they did like an analysis here I'm not just saying there were some Queens they just comparing all of the I don't know if it was if it was the uh
02:01:37
Brian Atlasthe English monarchs the British monarchs I don't recall exactly the specific details of this analysis they did but they did find that queens were more likely to wage war than Kings okay just wanted to put that in there sure
02:01:49
Anzasure I mean uh are we looking at it statistically as in I mean let's be real there were probably still more Kings in history than there were ever like queens that were really in charge so it is pro
02:02:00
Rachel Wilsoncap okay um I mean I I I can't speak to that personally so why would we think that men are going to start more war if women are more emotionally volatile and less rational and less logical on
02:02:11
Anzaaverage may we know that if we were taught more about those women as well cuz I mean personally I mean I'm just going to be honest with you I I mean how how many women in history can we
02:02:21
Rachel Wilsonactually name a ton well I mean talking in that specific position to cause a war I mean I'm an Orthodox Christian and we have tons of different queens and
02:02:31
Rachel Wilsonprincesses and women who were in various leadership positions and way terrific war on their enemies sure it's I mean
02:02:39
Anzait's just usually I mean we see you know queens that are just with a king yes oh you're you're getting well that would be
02:02:50
Rachel WilsonI could give you that accept that in the Modern Age we have a whole bunch more data that proves that this is not the case for example when you look at juvenile correction facilities or women's prisons so we were just talking
02:03:02
Rachel Wilsonabout how men have the Monopoly on Force yeah so men in male prisons things like that generally men grow up using physical force and when they're little they do Rough and Tumble play with their dad with their siblings with their
02:03:15
Rachel Wilsonfriends and they kind of learn where the boundaries are of like how much can I beat up my friend before I go too far and actually cause arm so they tend to learn that young and uh it it has an impact women don't have those same
02:03:28
Rachel Wilsonexperiences so what we see is that when women do have the Monopoly en forc for instance when you are a female guard in a juvenile facility or a female guard in a in a women's prison the women guards
02:03:40
Rachel Wilsonare far more likely to be abusive and the abuse tends to be worse than than men and I have heard that they do think it's it's partially because of our emotional volatility our hor hormonal um
02:03:52
Rachel Wilsonfluctuations and also just because women tend to be more likely to be on prescription psychiatric medications have mental illnesses um and just be less used to knowing where the boundary
02:04:03
Anzais so when women lose their [ __ ] and get physical they tend to escalate to a point that's a lot okay worse than what a can I ask is some of this maybe because you know also I we hear a lot
02:04:15
Anzathat women don't get the resources they need in the medical uh field you mean like mental Health Wise I'm not talking necessarily mental health like for me
02:04:24
Anzapersonally I took years to get diagnosed with chronic illness okay um and there's a lot of that and there's also not as much like research in on women in
02:04:34
Brian Atlasmedicine um like again going back to autism how does that relate to like the violence I I think I kind of know what you're talking about a little bit I'd like to offer up a bit of a rebuttal so
02:04:44
Brian AtlasI think you're talking perhaps about how there's less testing of certain drugs on women or like less less things are tested on women my rebuttal though there
02:04:55
Brian Atlaswould be well one thing that's a concern is if you're T if you're testing an experimental drug on somebody if the woman happens to be pregnant but she doesn't know it there could be ramifications there when it comes
02:05:08
Brian Atlasbecause for example some medications are not recommended if you're pregnant for example so if you're testing something experimental the woman doesn't know she's pregnant you know obviously could be very rare that you know she's
02:05:20
Brian Atlashappened to be partaking the trial and you know she's pregnant that could be one of the justifications for why they're more inclined to test things on men there's also like this component of well women uh when uh women's hormones
02:05:32
Brian Atlastend to shift a bit more throughout their cycle so I think it's better to test on someone who has their hormones level but the other thing is it's not clear to me if it's some privilege to
02:05:44
Brian Atlashave have to be tested on to have like experimental drugs tested on you that that seems like it would be a negative like a more men are so desperate for money and resources that they're willing
02:05:56
Brian Atlasto have experimental drugs tested on them I think if it was actually the reverse if it was 100% women where we were testing drugs on them there would be a huge outcry from feminist saying
02:06:07
Brian Atlaswait why are we like subjugating women specifically to this this you know drug treatment that seems like I get what you're saying I mean I personally wouldn't be opposed to that but um if it
02:06:19
Brian Atlaswas 100% women yeah I honestly think it's kind of necessary because sure but I feel like feminists would just argue and be like wait hold on this is like look at how this is unfair like why why you're not going to hear that from me
02:06:31
Anzaperson all right well that's fine um but uh no I mean for example uh this is a more minor thing but like okay why has
02:06:40
Anzaokay uh recently only when they test like uh tampons or pads uh it's only now they're using uh real menstrual blood
02:06:51
Rachel Wilsonrather than like water or like but how does it's different I just wonder how this gets back to what we were debating which was why can women defend persons
02:07:03
Rachel Wilsonin property yeah to tie back to that if if if a hurricane takes out half the Eastern Seaboard are the women going to get out there and get the power lines back up and put the sandbags out and rescue people from the floodwaters and
02:07:15
TTS/Chat readerrebuild every day I mean I would certainly hope so no they can't they can't do it they can't do it Ben George though donated $2 than appreciate it man so you claimed men are more dangerous
02:07:25
TTS/Chat readerand advocate for women yet want examples of powerful women abusing power use Google image search for teacher arrested for essay 90% are images of women in
02:07:37
Brian Atlaspower I agree I agree I mean there there's definitely a lot of that a couple quick things yeah uh Rachel you were talking about like uh you know how aggression tends to tends to manifest
02:07:48
Brian Atlasespecially young boys for example um you I don't know if you're kind of familiar with this like how uh men's aggression especially at an early age tends to man Mass man excuse me manifest itself more
02:08:00
Brian Atlasin a phys in the Physical Realm but isn't it the case that women's aggression will manifest it might not manifest itself in the Physical Realm but it will still manifest itself itself
02:08:11
Rachel Wilsonregardless so reputation Destruction for women use subterfuge manipulation gossip that sort of thing because right if you can't use physical Force to get your way the those are the things you're going to to I mean that's something we see in
02:08:24
Brian Atlashistory as well I mean yeah I have a question sorry wait one more thing actually one more thing also when it comes to like physical um I were we talking about
02:08:34
Brian Atlaslike violence at all I don't know if that was kind of yeah we like military and then we yeah so I mean what do you think about this so I mean there you were saying well men throughout history have been a bit more violent um so I I
02:08:47
Brian Atlassaw this I've seen the stat a couple times so if we're looking at heterosexual couples lesbian couples and gay couples we actually find that for example uh gay
02:08:59
Brian Atlascouples so two men in a relationship the rate of domestic violence is actually lowest amongst homosexual gay gay men it's in the middle for heterosexual couples and the incidence rate of
02:09:11
Brian Atlasdomestic violence in lesbian couples is actually the highest okay so that's an interesting thing because when you have two men you you would think well men are tend to be more violent why is it then that when you put two men in a
02:09:24
Brian Atlasrelationship the incidence of violence domestic violence is the lowest okay can I play devil when there's two women together it's the highest oh can I app devil's advocate for a second go ahead
02:09:34
Anzaokay so we like to typically I think make out um anyone who's let's say gay to be well they're more feminine and then we look at uh women who are lesbian
02:09:47
Ebony Janand we're like well they're more masculine so is that what in the brain what's making that happen then this is similar to what I wanted to ask do we believe that I mean that's a fair
02:09:57
Ebony Janquestion but go ahead like every female well first of all women and men we both have testosterone and um estrogen right and it can be imbalanced so I feel like it depends on the person and we can't
02:10:08
Rachel Wilsonlike box everything in well yeah we can take a look at statistical averages and another important data point is that although when men tend to do domestic
02:10:18
Rachel Wilsonviolence the damage can be greater women are more likely to initiate domestic violence than men and men are less likely to report it than women are cuz they're less likely to be believed
02:10:30
Brian AtlasI'll give you that yeah I want to go back to the draft really quick yeah I wanted to go back to you two guys I think both of you said no women shouldn't be drafted I was just curious why
02:10:42
Manah/Madison (mixed)not um I think because there's a difference between men and women cuz men are you know physically stronger MH and like sure um I feel like I don't know if you enlist
02:10:55
Brian Atlaseverybody then so can I ask you a question a follow up on that um so you say men are physically stronger MH do you think then if that's the case if women shouldn't be subject to forced
02:11:06
Brian Atlasmilitary conscription should women be barred from volunteering for uh the military no I think well why so why are they barred from Forced military
02:11:16
Brian Atlasconscription but they're able to volunteer um because it occurs to me like for example
02:11:25
Brian Atlasin peace time uh I mean or in in Wartime there could perhaps be a greater need
02:11:33
Brian Atlasfor more uh more soldiers mhm whereas in peace
02:11:42
Brian Atlastime do you need them women just joined the military so they can get free college oh w Wait so but uh okay but so men are stronger that'sit isn't really even happening
02:11:54
Manah/Madison (mixed)anymore and then what about you you said uh women should not be drafted why is that um well when I said it it was for the same reason that like men are physically stronger and I was for what
02:12:05
Manah/Madison (mixed)you said about like volunteering I feel like um the women who choose to volunteer would have like would be physically strong as well but like like oh were you going to come in on
02:12:17
Anzathis or okay well then okay yeah I'm not going to deny men are physically stronger that's just a thing um but then uh you know you were saying how you know women have to use their brain because they got to make up for what they lack
02:12:28
Anzain strength right so then who's to say that the brains can't be used in uh situations in the military as well well that would be a great Point as well
02:12:40
Rachel Wilsonexcept for this thing called greater male variability which if you look at you can look at a number of different metrics I was just on Tim Cass we were talking about grip strength as an example but you can do it with IQ you
02:12:52
Rachel Wilsoncan do it with all different measures of aptitude what we see is that women tend to Cluster around the mean more than men and there's this small percentage of men and in anything that are so much better
02:13:04
Rachel Wilsonat everybody else that it's like not even close so as a woman if you're trying to be a CEO a general in the military a strategist in the military trying to be a police officer a
02:13:15
Rachel Wilsondetective anything like that you're going to have to compete with this tiny top tier of men that is going to be so far ahead of you that the the odds of you beating them are very very small
02:13:26
Rachel Wilsonwhich is why even after 100 Years of equality we don't see a lot of women at the top of these highly competitive Pursuits like being a CEO like being a
02:13:37
Rachel Wilsonfourstar general in the military like being the president things like that so it's one of the differences that makes it really tough for women to compete so even if you're very smart for a woman you may not be able to compete
02:13:49
Brian Atlaswith that top tier of men statistically so you're saying men are just naturally smarter well you mentioned the variability thing right Nick can you pull that up we'll just
02:13:59
Brian Atlaslook at it so there's this uh this is like Nick can you make us smaller please yeah and then I'm also going to find you just the article hold on I'm sending that to you in private chat pull that up
02:14:12
Brian Atlasplease get it quick if you can uh so it's this idea that I think it isn't it even the case that on like women are on average smarter yes or is
02:14:24
Rachel Wilsonit there's more of us that are in that middle gathering around the me so I'll read this really quick okay but the men who are smartest are way ahead the generally the variability hypothesis
02:14:35
Brian Atlasalso known as the greater male variability hypothesis is the hypothesis that males generally display greater variability in traits than females pull
02:14:44
Brian Atlasthat one back up Nick the the chart just click on it yeah okay so B basically what they're saying is that there's more stupid
02:14:56
Brian Atlasmen there's like real there's a lot more dumb dumb men sure but there's like also like a greater proportion of like really really smart men but then there's like more women who are in the middle right
02:15:08
Anzaokay then then that kind of goes back to my point though then if there's more women in the middle then what's the harm then of actually because that means we're having greater odds of having smart women than we are we're we're
02:15:19
Rachel Wilsonrisking more by having a I'm not I'm saying smart women can't do smart girl things I I'm a smart woman who does smart girl things but when
02:15:29
Rachel Wilsonwe're talking about who should be like at the Apex of Society Running things generally men are going to have the Monopoly on Force strength uh cognitive skills leadership skills social skills
02:15:42
Rachel Wilsonthey're just that top bit of men are going to be so far ahead okay but going back to your point then then how does that affect the draft cuz that's not the top tier that but the draft is just you
02:15:53
Rachel Wilsonhave to be physically capable and like you are a tiny girl if you had to if you had to jump in tomorrow and do the PT prescriptions that men have when they the military yeah and I'm like a really
02:16:05
Rachel Wilsonstrong girl I've done powerlifting and weightlifting for years I've got like a 250 lb for five reps deadlift right now I've got a 200 lb squat but you put me next to a man who's my size that doesn't
02:16:17
Anzaeven train he's going to whoop my ass oh but for example like what if there's emergency situation uh you know when you're out in the field uh you know we're I think I'm okay to say this the
02:16:28
Anzamore likely to see a man just kind of like brot his way through it rather than like okay think how can we problem solve this so nobody gets more injured or in a less risky situation I should say um you
02:16:41
Anzaknow so you think that on average women are more strategic than no I'm not saying strategic but I mean if we're looking at like you know the average of
02:16:52
Anzayou know the brain kind of thing sorry um then you know wouldn't it be fair to say that they're going to be more able to look at those situations uh better
02:17:04
Anzathan the average we're seeing based off the graph you gave us I'm not really sure what you're asking in those risky
02:17:14
Anzasituations then if the mean average is that you know the women are uh going to overall have a decent IQ
02:17:26
Anzathen they'd be more likely to handle those risky situations where we really need to think about it then say the average we're going to find that's not really how it works and when you're
02:17:37
Rachel Wilsonentering the military they test you so if you're if you're below a certain IQ you're not going to be in the field doing certain things for that reason that we assess risk differently right and men do not take as much time to
02:17:50
Anzaassess those risks and they just jump right in well women are more risk averse but usually in a military situation that's going to be bad well yes no you want to be on your toes cuz of course you know you never know what's going to
02:18:00
Anzahappen um women are very conflict avoidant and on average they don't want to be in the military for their here's the thing then then why is there a problem having an equal amount like an equal opportunity for a drafting men and
02:18:13
Anzadrafting women then so that means we're having uh equal Risk Takers and is equal maybe not Risk Takers we want that fair bit of both so what you're telling me is
02:18:24
Rachel Wilsonall throughout human history armies have been made of men and now because it's 2024 and Technology we should put all of like look at the table of ladies here you all are lovely you're probably great
02:18:36
Rachel Wilsonsingers you're beautiful but do I want you on the front lines fighting no I don't sure I I get that want women on the front lines I'm a feminist so she
02:18:49
Brian Atlasyou know what I think we do we do a total switch up men don't get to get drafted and we just draft with the women use the women as meat shields for a little bit soften soften soften the enemy up a little bit then the men can
02:19:01
Daniellecome in take I think something that's take care of it we'll take care of it the women soften them up I think something that's interesting is that you're saying we have equal portions of men and women entering the military but
02:19:13
Daniellethen what you would have to do is you would have to separate those roles once they enter the military and then then it's not equal anymore what the point of doing that I do get what you're saying well I mean if okay based off the
02:19:24
Anzaphysical stuff like we're talking about again I think that would have to depend on the women I mean look at some of the women in the Olympics they could totally do it right um could they like who also outliers as well I know there
02:19:37
Minguoutliers so like when we're talking about this kind of stuff you have to think about in general the women in general and bigger numbers sure Olympians are I'm not denying that I think if anything if we are going to
02:19:48
Anzahave a draft with women we need to as I mean we all have to go through a physical even if we're being drafted right so I mean we then assess okay what
02:19:58
Rachel Wilsoncan we best put them to well then like most women are not going to meet the requirements and depend they've opened up all of the Special Forces to women
02:20:09
Rachel Wilsonfor what 20 30 years now 20 years something like that not a single woman has been able to pass uh Navy SEALS or buds or like the different Green Beret train women just can't do it well and
02:20:22
Brian Atlasgoing along going along with that I wouldn't want them to lower that standard so that women could right no but here's the thing oh they have is a different standard it is a different standard and this isn't just for the military it's for police force
02:20:34
Brian Atlasfirefighters like I think for the Poli uh the military you know there's there's a a speed test in terms of being able to complete a mile or I don't know how long push this is the thing is women always
02:20:46
Rachel Wilsonwill say like we want to be equal so you have to let us do these things you have to first of all if they have to let you it's not equal second of all if they have to lower the standard for you to get in it's also not equal so it's all
02:20:58
Rachel Wilsonjust this illusion this silly illusion and I don't want to I'm sick of it I think that she's sick of it I think that in the not so distant future a few Generations from now they're going to
02:21:10
Rachel Wilsonlook back on this feminist experiment and go whoa that was a disaster glad we got rid of that because it's not it's simply not sustainable it can't we can't even keep going with it because birth
02:21:21
Daniellerates have tanked right right so either tanked maybe it maybe it won't go away and then Humanity will just go extinct there will be a reset and like people people always ask me what I think it'll
02:21:33
Rachel Wilsonbe and I think it's going to be painful and ugly there's like a couple ways it could go but it's not going to be fun for anyone when it happens whoever gets AI first we're in trouble I don't know it
02:21:43
Brian Atlascould be China who knows what happens okay uh one thing related to this just I don't know we who's physically who's physically stronger men
02:21:54
Rachel Wilsonor women starting with you well men I haven't denied it it is still men men men men men men okay all right just just wanted to check here we've heard we have
02:22:06
Brian Atlashad some we had some women there are some weeny men it's fine and I'll even Grant there are certainly there are women out there who can be stronger than
02:22:15
Brian Atlasmen lift more but I saw that grip strength thing and we've pulled that up before too I mean but I mean the vast majority of men
02:22:25
Brian Atlasare stronger than women anyways uh let's see let's get into actually kind of sort of related to the feminist conversation a little bit I don't know if we'll linger too long on the actual debate of
02:22:37
Brian Atlasit but I do at least want to get your answers so the question is oh after this Ben George donated $200 last one do the ladies believe in
02:22:48
TTS/Chat readerevolution if so men evolved in into their role because men have been primarily on the front lines and pushed mentally and physically join a Seal Team
02:22:57
Brian Atlasladies okay Ben George thank you man uh do you believe in evolution yes
02:23:05
Danielleum yes and no okay yes yep I don't know what does the LDS I was I was actually I was just
02:23:16
Daniellethinking about that um because we believe in Adam and Eve um and I have had discussions with family members about this but I don't feel like I've ever gotten an answer so I don't know
02:23:27
Rachel Wilsonokay what about you yeah yes I don't don't believe in evolution no wait aren't you a biom major I'm yes Rachel no evolution is
02:23:39
Brian Atlasfake and gay uh okay um cool okay thank you Ben George appreciate it bro appreciate it okay so
02:23:49
Brian Atlaslet's see here we have have ah yes okay man or bear would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods starting with you go
02:24:01
Brian Atlasahead can you come back to me I don't know okay we'll come back go ahead like a man man yay oh come on no no no guys let people
02:24:12
Brian Atlasanswer don't try to force them go ahead I give a man why wait hold on did somebody pressure you no I don't get pressured I have my own thoughts you
02:24:23
Ebony Janwere thinking about you were thinking about the I was just going to say um a bear this is going to sound crazy but if I obviously if I'm in the woods and then a
02:24:33
TTS/Chat readerbear approaches me and I did not have time to research a bear wait grid One Motorsports donated $200 thank you're good one bird feminism has failed you
02:24:44
TTS/Chat readeryour lies to yourself are failing you the patriarchy stands ready to help submit and saved from your irrational thoughts be better okay thank you grid One
02:24:56
Brian AtlasMotorsports man good to see in the chat thank you man uh you were saying let's say that um men can be pretty unpredictable I'll give you that but I chose I choose men i' would
02:25:08
Manah/Madison (mixed)rather be in the woods with the man a man a man man a man I I'm still on the fence about it just because I've got
02:25:19
Rachel Wilsonlike instant I'm a say Bear say bear Rachel what about you oh a man okay there's an article on my substack where I go over the last 45 years of data
02:25:29
Rachel Wilsonabout men and whether or not the primary risk to women is men and it's absolutely not like unequivocally not even close your husband or the man in your life is poses like far less risk to you than
02:25:41
Rachel Wilsonyou've been led to believe by Propaganda what was the largest risk the riskiest situation for a woman is to be in a cohabitation situation with a guy that
02:25:52
Rachel Wilsonshe's sleeping withow whereas Far and Away the safest is to be living with your married husband and children like by a factor of 12 times and it was a
02:26:04
Rachel Wilsonmajor talking point of feminism in the 60s and 70s that men are these abusers uh they're alcoholics they're going to beat you and so you have to be able to leave and you have to be able to cohabitate or you have to just be able
02:26:15
Rachel Wilsonto be remain unattached so that you can get away if he turns out to be a bad guy but turns out that when you take the the primary person out of your life who has an interest in providing for you and protecting you you actually put yourself
02:26:28
Rachel Wilsonat much greater risk and you end up with the kind of guys who are going to pump you and dump you and be bad to you and treat you like garbage because they have no vested interest in longterm what's
02:26:38
Rachel Wilsonyour best interest so like the data is super overwhelming on it why do you pick bear I'm just curious
02:26:47
Manah/Madison (mixed)um I've just I've just been through like a lot of things with um men um I was
02:26:56
Manah/Madison (mixed)assault aay as a kid and a lot of a couple of my first experiences in like sexually was also that like in high
02:27:09
Manah/Madison (mixed)school so I just feel like I I don't know I'd rather be Maul to then go through that again but that's just based off my experience is not just based off
02:27:21
Brian Atlasbut okay keep in mind this is a random man or a random bear so the random man could
02:27:29
Brian Atlasbe I mean the overwhelmingly likely to either leave you alone or be helpful in some sort of woods situation I'm like why are we both standing in the middle
02:27:42
Manah/Madison (mixed)of the woods like I think you're overthinking scenario a little bit but in the middle of nowhere in the woods you're probably a serial on a liver no way seral Li well you're not going to
02:27:55
Brian Atlasthe woods yeah the man's going to be in the woods cuz he's hunting or hiking or doing bro stuff well here so like here's the scenario though so it's like a random man so you of the entire US
02:28:07
Brian Atlaspopulation you're just plucking a random man out of it so you can't even think of what are the motivations for him being there it's like you just get both of you just get
02:28:18
Brian Atlasplucked Into the Woods but you are you are coming across so you will come across a random man or a random bear you will get into
02:28:32
Brian Atlascontact I just still so if you were like roll the dice and you just randomly get put into a situation with a random man what do you think is like the chance of
02:28:44
Ebony JanAny Given man a random man having wanting to harm you in some way wanting to insult you in some way so if Jeffrey D was in the woods versus the bear what
02:28:55
Brian Atlaswould you rather no the question is what like okay there what's the population of the us over 300 million 150 so it's like 150 basically statistically you're basically saying that you statistically
02:29:08
Manah/Madison (mixed)think that there's a more chance that the man is going to be wicked and evil towards you I'm not even thinking statistically I'm thinking personally like okay but it's a r sure but it's a
02:29:18
Mingurandom man right yes okay I was also thinking I could probably outrun a guy I cannot outrun a
02:29:28
Anzabear especially in their natural habitat yeah I don't think I could outrun either you're all okay well that being said a bear we know for sure will if we get too
02:29:38
Brian Atlasclose is going to cause harm let me ask you let me ask you a different question would you rather would you rather let's say you see a man at a campfire and then
02:29:49
Brian Atlasyou see like like a bear at a campsite who's like ruffling through some uh some like food or something who would you rather go up and
02:29:59
TTS/Chat readerpat on the head three times the man or the bear obviously the man okay here here's a different scenario you're on the top floor of a
02:30:10
TTS/Chat readerburning I'm so glad I'm not dating donated if my wife was hiking through the woods alone she's 5 for plus
02:30:21
TTS/Chat reader£10 say I wasn't present I would rather her come across another random man rather than a bare 100% of the time irrational thank you I'm so glad I'm not
02:30:32
Brian Atlasdating good to see you back in the chat dude okay here's the other scenario you're on the top floor of a burning building for an appointment you don't work there so you don't know like the people in the building whatever top
02:30:44
Brian Atlasfloor of a burning building the stairs burning there's two elevators top floor there's a man in one of the elevators and a bear in the other other elevator and you're trying to get to the bottom
02:30:56
Manah/Madison (mixed)which which elevator do you go into the one with the random man or the one with the bear well I feel like the answer is obvious the one with the man in it because okay we're both trying to escape
02:31:09
Brian Atlassomething okay good times all right well there it is I feel like I need to ask that question like show of hands because I feel like some of you would have said bear I thought about it I think some of
02:31:21
Brian Atlasyou would have said bear but then she said man look at that good for you I'm reasonable here you're reasonable okay there you go that's good that's good all right so we did man vers Bear Let's do
02:31:33
Brian Atlasuh wait actually grid won Motorsports he's still in the chat he mentioned the patriarchy he did do you guys want to this is definitely dating related do you guys want to smash
02:31:46
Manah/Madison (mixed)the patriarchy should we should we smash I understand necessarily like what we're talking about here when we say the patriarch well so like you know feminism one of the core tenants of feminism is
02:31:58
Brian Atlasthe there's the patriarch the patriarchy Theory patriarchy okay do you want to smash it should we get rid of the patriarchy I don't I feel like I just don't care
02:32:08
Anzaenough but okay cool what about you um I I think there are certain aspects where it's just naturally going to happen and I think there's some places where maybe
02:32:18
Brian Atlasthere could be more leeway that's that's really so is is there a
02:32:25
Anzapatriarchy these days I want to say just like smidge it really depends on where you're looking you then you'd have to look that's the thing mhm yeah don't be
02:32:36
Ebony Janshy I I see that you want to say something and I want you to oh I was making a joke in my head like yeah I want to smash the patriarchy but not smash the patriarchy if you know what I meant Oh I yeah yeah you know um I think
02:32:49
Manah/Madison (mixed)that there could be tweaks but I don't want to end it no okay no we should not get rid of the patriarchy no we should not get rid of
02:32:58
Manah/Madison (mixed)it um I think I also don't really know what the patriarchy is that much do you feel like so when feminists talk about the patriarchy they're usually saying
02:33:09
Rachel Wilsonthere's this historic conspiracy of men to control women to keep them under their boot to prevent them from having power or free will or like choice to
02:33:20
Rachel Wilsonleave or do what they want right there's this effort among men in general to keep women like under under their foot a little bit to keep them down do you feel
02:33:30
Manah/Madison (mixed)like that's a thing um maybe in the past but not so much now okay yeah same I feel like we all can pretty much do what we want so okay
02:33:42
Ebony Janquestion what are we going to do about the men that think that they can lead but they can't we're supposed to just let them like run [ __ ] I mean I don't I don't see that well uh can you give me an example of a man who thinks he can lead but but
02:33:55
Ebony Jandoesn't so it could be like if we're talking about the patriarchy in general we could talk about a president I don't want to pick one and say like what I think but I'm not going to say every man is going to be great to lead and they like that's been in office so do you
02:34:07
Rachel Wilsonguys assume then that when we're talking about like patriarchy that all men have dominion over all women or do we think that there's a hierarchy among men I can
02:34:18
Rachel Wilsonrespect that yeah and and I think one thing that feminism did unintentionally that's been really destructive for everybody is it destroyed that hierarchy among men and now what you have it cuz
02:34:29
Rachel Wilsonyou used to have the like more Alpha type of men uh we used to keeping down the the like beta cuck type of like you know the the gamma type of males who are
02:34:40
Rachel Wilsonjust jealous and resentful and they like they think that they're like I should be having a girlfriend she should like me but she only likes that six foot tall football player and I'm going to I'm going to show her you know those those type of guys a girl B yeah yeah they
02:34:53
Rachel Wilsonused to bully those guys into their proper place I love that we need to bring bring it back yeah keep them kind of like where they need to keep them in line a little bit but what feminism and egalitarianism did was kind of like take
02:35:04
Rachel Wilsonthat away so now you do have these feminine by the way feminist men okay all they're trying to do is what okay women yeah they're just they're trying
02:35:15
Rachel Wilsonto [ __ ] right so they're not they're not honest dudes they're not going to be leaders they're going to be [ __ ] they're going to be uh impersonators they're going to be the kind of dudes that you don't want and it used to be
02:35:28
Rachel Wilsonthat you had to compete for a wife you know back in the day like you had to prove to a man that you could support his daughter that you could take care of her that you were worthy of marrying her now we all just like go for the guy who
02:35:40
Rachel Wilsonlike we all pick the wrong dudes right we very often we pick the wrong guy because some of them have adapted and figured out how to manipulate and sneak their way in and like the guy who you
02:35:52
Rachel Wilsonfriendzoned forever and then the minute you break up with your boyfriend he's like right there with a bottle of wine and like oh honey I'm so you know like he's trying to use what he can to get what he wants so like they become they
02:36:05
Rachel Wilsonact like females they act sneaky and they use manipulation and subfusion gossip and things like that to get girls and so we end up with these dudes right can I ask um so you know I I I know
02:36:18
TTS/Chat readerpeople who are like that and I know people people who are feminists who aren't like that they're yeah I'm so glad I'm not dating donated
02:36:27
TTS/Chat reader$200 he's a perfect match you go to his house one of his rooms properly locked in his house is filled with guns and
02:36:36
Manah/Madison (mixed)ammo reloading equipment including multiple 15 rifles whatever do you do uh what if it's just for protection like you know like he feels like they need to protect his home and he's one of
02:36:49
Manah/Madison (mixed)those people that likes to collect things I don't know if it's properly locked then that doesn't have anything to do with me I guess so you'd be okay with it yeah yeah I think that's what the question is asking okay then yeah
02:37:01
AnzaI'd be okay with it I mean I'd ask like is I mean are you using it for hunting purposes uh you know I know Hunters they're fine but then also I mean if
02:37:11
TTS/Chat readerit's not why do you need a an AR-15 exactly that's it grid One Motorsports donated $200
02:37:20
TTS/Chat readerI am the patriarchy we value women and protect them especially from themselves we die so you don't have to accepting
02:37:29
TTS/Chat readerMrs Wilson you lot know so little of my work yet speak in ignorance do be better okay let's should we continue with the gun question okay what do you
02:37:41
Rachel Wilsonthink um I'm not going to lie I didn't really fully hear the question but you go data guy he's the perfect match everything about him is perfect but you go to his
02:37:53
Rachel Wilsonhouse and he's got a locked room that's filled with all kinds of guns a bunch of AR15s yeah I don't mind that okay yeah no problem probably ask him what his favorite one
02:38:03
Manah/Madison (mixed)is sounds like my house so okay happy my dad's house not really I mean I would ask like questions of like what they're for but like um I probably wouldn't have
02:38:13
Rachel Wilsona problem with it I would be okay as long as it's secured and you know safe uh I would be cool with it um I'd
02:38:23
Rachel Wilsonprobably say where's the AK-47s yeah that's a big question like why only one type AR15 is the most popular rifle I
02:38:35
Background/minorthink in America but Li yeah fun though would you guys change your answer if he just thought they were cool like he really liked GS I
02:38:46
Brian Atlasalso think they're coolr so my dad was in the Navy so wait maybe show pants who said no to the we
02:38:55
Brian Atlasall said no everyone's fine with it yeah okay I guess it's like what would be the motivation if he like if he didn't want well I'm like completely fine with it
02:39:08
Manah/Madison (mixed)but if the answer was not to protect himself what would it be maybe he things like I don't know or goes hunting or cuz I think the main motivation that every
02:39:19
Rachel Wilsonguy Every Man Has a gun is to protect protect themselves and protect his home so and it's just it's similar to why guys like cars they like cool mechanical stuff that they can take apart and modify and do fun things with and it
02:39:31
Rachel Wilsonmakes it things go boom and it's [Laughter] fun do you have any questions Rachel do I have any questions
02:39:43
Rachel Wilsonum goodness uh what do you guys think about all the plastic surgery that ladies are getting these days what do you think about the fillers the botox the lip
02:39:54
Rachel Wilsoninjections the the eyelashes like all of the enhancements because I'm 43 and when I was growing up we didn't have all that like fake boobs were just a thing in the '90s and that was like pretty much it
02:40:06
Rachel Wilsonthere was not this ubiquitous plastic surgery when I was growing up I don't remember ever thinking about what my butt looked like till I was like in my 20s cuz it just like we would in high school we'd compliment each other on our outfits to be like oh my God your hair's
02:40:18
Rachel Wilsoncute how'd you get it so tall right cuz the ma bangs in the 9s but uh there wasn't this like hyper fixation on like oh I've got to have a huge ass and a tiny waist and huge lips and all this
02:40:31
Manah/Madison (mixed)stuff so I'm wondering like what how do you guys feel about kind of growing up in the arrow with all that well I was born in the year 2000 so I just feel like for me I literally grew up in this social media age like and I I always
02:40:43
Manah/Madison (mixed)just had to see like you know you just have to be perfect and everything like that so I feel like for me um maybe I thinking about it like in a
02:40:55
Manah/Madison (mixed)more I don't know different way I feel like I we're all a little brainwashed even if we don't like to admit it but I would definitely get my lips done when I
02:41:04
Manah/Madison (mixed)get the chance I'm going to get a lot of things done and maybe that means I have a little bit of mental health issues but that's just I don't know I just feel like I stop it get some help do you
02:41:16
Rachel Wilsonthink it has to do Perfection like I don't know I want you guys ever see the before pictures Kardashians and the after pictures of the Kardashians wait so yeah what what do you want to get you
02:41:27
Manah/Madison (mixed)said lips what else um my boobs um fake boobs I want to get hip fillers hip fillers what else BBL
02:41:38
Manah/Madison (mixed)lipo I would definitely get BOTOX so I don't get lines on my forehead um so you are intending to get this um oh yeah I'm definitely I'm going to you're going to
02:41:48
Brian Atlashave you gotten anything yet or nothing so far no nothing so far mm but I would we can wait actually let's get everybody's response before we give our take on that
02:41:58
Anzawhat about you um personally at this point in time not for me I want to do if you know if I want to enhance anything about me I want to do that naturally I'm you know I'm work out a certain way Etc
02:42:11
Anzaum at one point I was thinking I'm like I don't like my nose but I was like why what's why so yeah good answer um I feel like it's to each is their own
02:42:22
Ebony Janum I feel like if it doesn't come from a place of like mental health issues it's fine I have gotten a little bit of lip filler personally that's it that's it okay I think it's unhealthy and
02:42:36
Minguunnatural uh I think I I don't know about boobs or anything like that kind of stuff but I think I'm okay with facials and stuff like that I feel like
02:42:48
Minguin the future since I've been in the Sun so much I'll have to get some stuff taken off my face to like precancer stuff but that's not like yeah yeah you said facials isn't that just like skin
02:43:00
Mingutreatment like skin yeah there's some pretty intense like treatments that you can do to that sure but it's not something like inside you right preventative care does that constitute
02:43:11
Manah/Madison (mixed)as cosmetic surgery though I don't know I don't know okay uh what about you um I think it is unnecessary and like social media has caused a lot of insecurities and made it really
02:43:23
Manah/Madison (mixed)normalized um but like I I wouldn't judge anyone who does it and yeah to each their own okay what about you um it's not for me I think I I prefer to be
02:43:33
Manah/Madison (mixed)natural and I think aging is like part of life and it's like bound to happen so and I also think social media could be harmful for especially young like impressional girls to like compare
02:43:45
Minguthemselves to people when it's really not all right some good can I ask Rachel one thing that I'm a little nervous about with like childbearing is like what's going to
02:43:56
Minguhappen afterwards and you've had five and I think that's the thing that women think about like oh I'll get my mommy makeover um what are your thoughts on that like if a mom wants to feel
02:44:07
Rachel Wilsonconfident again after her body just got wrecked I think well it kind of depends like I know some women who've had a bunch of kids and they look fantastic and I'm like dang um if you have like I
02:44:19
Rachel Wilsonhad five and they were all over 8 lbs and they went straight out cuz I have like narrow hips so they just went straight out in front so like if there's excess skin and it's bothersome and you want to get that removed I don't think
02:44:30
Rachel Wilsonthere's any problem with that um I would I would consider it I haven't done that but I think it's okay and I'm not 100% against plastic surgery but I think it's
02:44:42
Rachel Wilsongone like way too far with women just looking like like people don't like you have an adorable nose why would you ever like think your no see the side profile here oh oh God she has aute nose there's
02:44:54
Rachel Wilsonnothing nothing wrong with her nose at all and I see girls who already have like great features but they think they have to look like how all the celebrities look the same like they have
02:45:04
Rachel Wilsonto that tiny nose and these huge lips and it's like I am a fan of real faces I like I used to draw portraits when I was growing up all the time I like worked as an artist when I was younger and I like people's actual faces I like the things
02:45:18
Brian Atlasthat make their face unique and make them look different so I'm just not I don't like everybody trying to look like blowup doll clones I think that's gross I'll give my take on this I am a natural
02:45:28
Brian Atlasbody supremacist um I am very much against both in a partner and you know if I ever gain political power I will actually
02:45:39
Brian AtlasOutlaw plastic surgery I'll Outlaw cosmetic procedures lip fillers straight to jail fake titties straight to jail BBL well that's an ex actually you can
02:45:50
Brian Atlasget executed in my my goodness I will execute you in my government if you get a BBL um yeah this is this is Hardcore okay I want to ask a question and you
02:46:01
Brian Atlascan't even be grandfathered in you have to get that [ __ ] out you got to remove that [ __ ] you got to remove the [ __ ] say get or sorry execution no yeah period um
02:46:12
Brian Atlasand then also uh labia plasty execution I can't if you get one of those I can't imagine that either that sounds crazy # big laia matter that's my movement Bri I have a question about this big laia
02:46:24
Daniellething yeah go ahead go ahead let's he let's I worked in a gynecologist office for a long time and there was women that would come in with like huge laas huge
02:46:34
Daniellelike huge sign me up what's up no it was just like they couldn't exercise because of like chafing and issues like that are you okay with laop plasties when they're like medically or are you like no
02:46:47
Daniellelabioplasty period I don't know if I believe the it's interfering I don't believe in it there was the lady that couldn't run because it was so painful and bad yeah so like
02:46:59
Danielleso I'm not saying it was common I'm just saying I saw it and so like I'm just curious she couldn't run it was so painful like the chafing and the issues there's there's ways there's
02:47:11
Danielleworkarounds there's duct tape is what you're saying I don't know maybe like stuff it you got stuff it that's I don't
02:47:18
Brian Atlasknow what if there's nowhere roll it up I am look there I maybe I've heard of these incredibly dubious and rare
02:47:29
Brian Atlasscenarios where there can be pain who knows if it's just pretext for justification for them getting a CO pure what is typically purely a cosmetic
02:47:40
TTS/Chat readerprocedure but if there is uh Cloud flying donated $200 long time watch your first time contributor love the show Brian how did
02:47:50
TTS/Chat readerthe trip to the Eastern Orthodox temple with Rachel go weren to Great panel tonight Nick needs a microphone keep killing it oh Nick on the microphone uh
02:48:01
Rachel Wilsonmaybe yeah eventually just it's uh we'll get it done eventually thank you Cloud for the uh Street sorry I got I went to a lovely church here this morning though