CONFRONTING Daisy Chen?! ROAST Episode! Andrew Wilson! Are They VICTIMS?! | Dating Talk #160

Date: 2024-05-13

Duration: 7h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKelly (DT162)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_03Christine(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kelly/Destiny/Ateri/Maddie (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Daisy Chen(guest)

SPEAKER_14Destiny(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDaisy admits revenge motive: "I'm here to take you down" — played from her own video; then admits "that's my revenge to be honest he hurt me I want to hurt him"

ControversyDaisy admits premeditated recording: she recorded the phone call with Walter before the call ended, intending to release it as revenge

QuoteDaisy on her motivation: "I've never done this to anyone in my life — people have hurt me in the past — just the fact he took that away from you... that's why I have so much hate"

QuoteNoel reveals prior violent coerced abortion by a different ex-boyfriend (not Walter): "he dragged me by the hair into his car and drove me two hours away somewhere I didn't know and literally quite literally forced me... I ended up in the hospital"

ControversyAndrew accuses Daisy of entrapment and felony: "you came in on a student visa you committed a felony by recording him and then releasing it — and on top of that... your entire motivation around this was purely Revenge related"

ControversyAndrew demands Daisy and Noel leave the studio: "Get the f*** out of here. Your stories are bullshit." Brian declines to kick them. Daisy and Noel stay but leave voluntarily later (~6:46 mark).

ControversyAndrew calls Daisy a murderer on Mother's Day during live broadcast: "you murdered your child. Happy Mother's Day. Murderer." — Daisy had stated the abortion was not murder from her Buddhist worldview

QuoteSelf-ratings round: Daisy 8, Noel 7-8, Destiny 10 (for right person), Kelly 6, Christine ~6, Gustavo 7, Andrew ~3-5.

ControversyAndrew questions Daisy about Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Tiananmen Square; speculates she may be a CCP spy/agent. Daisy refuses to answer any political questions. Brian skeptical but amused.

QuoteDaisy shows $30,000 bracelet at table: she and Walter each paid $15K for the real one after he first gave her a fake $30K bracelet. She threw the fake one back in his face.

QuoteDaisy and Noel voluntarily leave the show during the roast section after sustained hostility from Andrew and TTS donations.

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Brian introduces panel. Each guest states name, age, location, occupation, relationship status. Daisy details plastic surgery history; Brian shows before/after Instagram photos. Noel discusses traditional values, monogamy, nuclear family, and all her relationships involving cheating. Kelly declines to share story about boyfriend. Christine discusses relationship/overlap with frat guy. Andrew Wilson introduced last.

Daisy Chen background and plastic surgery review

Brian reviews Daisy's pre-surgery Instagram photos (2013, 2015, 2018, 2020). Discussion of breast augmentation, nose job, eyelid surgery. Panel asked about views on plastic surgery. Poll on before/after preference.

Noel traditional values discussion

Noel discusses importance of nuclear family, monogamy, traditional marriage. Debate on criminalizing infidelity. Panel opinions on cheating laws.

Daisy and Walter timeline confrontation

Daisy gives timeline of relationship with Walter (Fresh and Fit): met Nov 2023, official Dec 2023, visited Miami, got pregnant, Walter broke up March 25, found out pregnant April 1, had abortion. Played excerpts from leaked phone call. Showed DM receipts. Admitted to premeditated revenge recording.

Abortion debate and coercion arguments

Extended debate on whether Walter coerced Daisy into abortion. Andrew Wilson interrogates Daisy and Noel on responsibility, choice, coercion definitions. Covers abortion law, coercion statutes, Buddhist and Christian views on abortion, mutual responsibility for unprotected sex. Brian argues Daisy escalated by leaking calls; Daisy says it was revenge and warns other women.

Noel's encounter with Walter and consent discussion

Noel describes her encounter with Walter: flown to Miami, unprotected sex, he finished inside her without warning first time. Took Plan B. Discussion of consent, responsibility, and whether this was coercion.

Paternity question

Andrew questions whether the pregnancy was definitively Walter's child. Daisy argues Walter never denied it; he had a vasectomy rumor (addressed). No DNA test done (pregnancy terminated). Daisy had ultrasound at ~4-5 weeks.

Noel's prior coerced abortion (violent ex)

Noel briefly reveals a prior violent coerced abortion by a different ex-boyfriend (physically dragged her to clinic, she ended up hospitalized). Distinct from Walter situation.

Traditional segment (Destiny Instagram review)

Brian pulls up Destiny's Instagram to assess if she is "traditional." Bikini/booty photos visible. Discussion: traditional in relationship but not in public presentation.

Destiny's ex-cousin story

Destiny recounts that in high school her ex-boyfriend confessed to having sexual relationship with his male cousin since age 10. She had suspected infidelity; confronted him.

Self-ratings (1-10 scale)

Brian asks each guest to rate looks 1-10. Daisy: 8, Noel: 7-8, Destiny: 10 (for right person), Kelly: 6, Christine: ~6, Gustavo: 7, Andrew: ~3-5. Extended debate on what a 10 means after Destiny claims 10.

Ateri's story (cheating while mother hospitalized)

Ateri recounts that her ex cheated on her while her mother was dying in hospital. Step-father had also recently died. She hasn't dated since.

CCP and political accusations against Daisy

Andrew accuses Daisy of being a CCP agent after she refuses to answer questions about Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Tiananmen Square. Brian skeptical of the CCP angle; Daisy denies.

Brian's dating type / panel type discussion

Maddie identifies Brian's type: small women (height starts with 4), white or Asian, minimal makeup, no plastic surgery, no promiscuous past, no mental illness. Kelly mentions Brian and a previous guest 'Emily.'

Bumble swiping segment

Each guest given 20 Bumble profile swipes. Most guests had 0 or very few yes swipes. Brian also does female profiles segment. Discussion of pickiness and photo quality.

Chaos/roast section and Daisy/Noel departure

TTS donation roast messages at $20 threshold. Heavy anti-Daisy/Noel content. Champagne opened (Jeremy $1000 donation). Brian tipsy. Daisy and Noel leave ~6:46 mark. Body count round at close: Gustavo: mentioned; Madison: no longer answers; others not captured.

Transcript

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Daisy Chenwanted the baby and he knew that she wanted the baby I that's my point that's my whole point why are you arguing with this Andrew you know he did

Andrew Wilsonwrong sex is also just for let me ask you this um whether or not I think he did wrong want ad that CU you the you want to we just assume that I think he

Andrew Wilsondid the wrongest thing on planet Earth how does that get you off the hook for your respon posibility that he did something bad it doesn't I know I AG that I take a hang on hang on am I here

Andrew Wilsontalking to him or am I here talking to you so if I'm here talking ail hang on Daisy I'm almost done and then I promise I'll give you the floor if I'm here talking to you you're the person who I'm talking to

Andrew Wilsonwho I'm discussing the choices hang on I'm almost done almost done you're the person I'm talking to he's not here I'm happy to criticize him to his face like I am to you but it

Daisy Chendoesn't get you off the hook for any wrongdoing that you have done just because he may have done something wrong I admitted that but so far he never admitted anything why don't you go

Andrew Wilsontalk to him yeah because I'm talking right now to you and you're talking about both of our both of our situation but right now I'm just talking about how you see the situation from your

Andrew Wilsonperspective so this is how Daisy how does Daisy view this situation not how fresh views it but how you view but I'm asking your opinion about well it seems

Andrew Wilsonto me like this was um perhaps some form of entrapment ultimately I don't really see a way around it it looks to me like you wanted as you admitted some sort of Revenge on this guy for the fact that

Andrew Wilsonthis didn't work out you came in on a student visa you committed a felony by recording him and then and releasing it and then on top of that as you guys

Andrew Wilsonbegan to get into this you said that your entire motivation around this was purely Revenge related so so Daisy let

Daisy Chenme ask you this from my perspective should I believe you are credible in any way no you shouldn't you don't have to and and I don't and I don't care if you

Daisy Chenshould if you do or not cuz I know what happened and I provide all the receipt conversation wise record wise anyone who's smart they would understand mm people who are not agreed with me

Daisy Chenbecause they are the fan of fresh and fit you said you mentioned some receipts you don't have to be agreed with me and you don't have to take accountability for him and you are not woman you you haven't been through what I have been

Daisy Chenthrough so I'm okay with that you can say you can just criticize me it's okay like I don't I don't mind I really we have some receipts we got the receipts

Brian AtlasNick you want to pull up the first one it's a it should be right after the what receipt the receipt no no no no no it should be the first

Brian Atlasone should be like a screenshot black white

Brian Atlastext all right thanks for everyone's support I'm here to stand out as a woman woman as a victim in a relationship as a

Brian Atlasmom I think we already talked about the victim stuff a little bit um next one we'll just go through the receipts really quick just to show them uh so this is you you and you posted these to

Brian Atlasyour story this is your the pregnancy test you said you want to keep the baby don't want to kill a life

Brian Atlasuh uh yep you always told me you wanted to be uh he says he call you he says he can't can't have kids take

Brian Atlasresponsibility okay next uh

Brian Atlasso you said not being a good human for wanting the abort he wants the abortion you disagree uh you don't want kids right now wait he says he says he said I don't want kids right now and we spoke about

Brian Atlasit and you agreed no is that that's what he says I don't know if we have to review the words when they said and what what

Daisy Chenactually happened mhm M what actually happened is he did a notot inside of me every day and I'm pregnant yeah two weeks that fast he got me pregnant if I

Brian Atlasdid agree with him I would I already Tak the pill why would I getting myself in the situation uh let's see uh you want to have the baby

Brian Atlasuh next these are just some of the okay uh and then

Brian Atlasokay next you're victim in the relationship I'm carrying your baby next and then you can just skip through this whatever next one next one next one next

Brian Atlasone I've suffered many days before I decided to tell everyone what happened I need to help other girls to know his true color okay next

Brian Atlasuh okay NE next or is that it Nick I don't know what is there another tab after this one no oh

Daisy Chenbro how did you not know that that was okay it's fine it's fine um all right so what's the text message about I don't

Daisy Chenknow I was just showing the receipts yeah those are the I don't know you talking about the receipts that was that's what posted that's that's the one I posted and I'm going get there's more though I'll get through my notes with

Brian Atlaswith Noel here um so Noel you were talking about like this coercion thing forced forced her to get an abortion um you said that I was about to say something about that it's the totality

Brian Atlasof the circumstances what were some of the ways that he you said he coerced her or forced her to get an abortion so you said there was the you you listed like four things yeah telling her that he

Noelcan't have kids that he can't afford it putting it online intimidating her online embarrassing her online Okay I want to look just individually let's look at those first two so what was the

Noelfirst one it was saying that he doesn't want kids or that he can't have kids okay so that on its own is that coercion I think so he speculated that he had of

Brian Atlasectomy and then he's lying about that and then well did did he mean he doesn't want kids or can have kids more so from like I don't want to have kids right now

Andrew Wilsonthat's the way I would interpret that if if he had had a vasectomy then is it in any way shape or form possible for the G next to you to have gotten pregnant yeah it's a very slim

Brian Atlaschance but it could still like almost non-existent basically not almost non-existent it could still happen and are you claiming that he's had a visectomy no I said that was speculation wait Nick can you pull up the tab uh and then you were talking about coercion

Brian Atlasyou're talking about there's this website so we actually found it uh make it bigger so we can read it Center against forced abortions and that next

Brian Atlasuh make it bigger up tops uh scroll down just a tad for okay so hold on to scroll up just a bit there uh forcing a woman to have an abortion including minor is

Brian Atlasillegal in all 50 states of the United States of America uh any IND any individual who attempts to use force or coercion could be

Brian Atlassubject to criminal or civil ability including child abuse fetal homicide domestic partner violence they don't really give a definition there let me just make sure I'm on the same page if you scroll down um there's not

Brian Atlasreally oh yeah scroll down Nick we'll just read the pro women who first learned or Su or suspect they are pregnant may feel pressure to an abortion including from the parent the

Brian Atlasbaby's father School counsel blah blah this is illegal so it's ille it's illegal to feel pressure or to be pressured to have an

Brian Atlasabortion so basically but this is just a website I don't know if there's actually there's actually a law yes making it illegal to pressure somebody like let's say you were dating a guy and like every

Brian Atlastime you hung out with him he was like I don't know I don't know if I want the kid can you you maybe you're down to get an abortion I don't know if that's how could that ever be illegal cuz it's coercion when women are

Brian Atlaspregnant they're hormonal and emotional women think with the emotions they don't think logically okay but I'm this website is not citing an actual law I would like to

Daisy Chensee an actual codified law called who I called the website this website yeah I filed for already they have a legal teams that's that's the main reason why

Brian Atlasthis website is exist i f look I'm not oh Andrew's Gone [ __ ] uh that's why we got to call James sex here and ask ask

Brian Atlashim is it again against the law is it illegal to be like babe please get an abortion I don't want to have a kid I can't see how that would ever be against

Brian Atlasthe law cuz you can't ask or tell a woman what to do when she's pregnant what do you mean okay it's not clear to me if it's it might not be the nice thing to do but how could it be illegal

Brian Atlasto be like how about this like babe I want you I want you to wear like an anime waiu that doesn't I

Noelwant you to wear an anime waifu costume and if you would that doesn't that coersion no because that's not pertaining to reproductive like organs but saying okay babe okay so just to be

Noelclear but coercion is coercion right but we're talking specifically about laws on coercion towards abortion we're not talking about right but if it would be coercion towards one thing you would

Andrew Wilsonassume that that would apply to the other thing as well cuz coercion is coercion we're not talking hypotheticals we're talking about coercion with abortion yeah right I understand but if

Andrew Wilsoncoercion is coercion then Brian's point of asking you if just like I did earlier if somebody did the exact same thing begging for sex you say it's not coercion I don't really understand where

Noelwe delineate between where coercion for abortion uh isn't like coercion for basically just anything well because we're not talking about anything we're talking about abortion so wait okay well

Brian Atlaslet me ask let me ask you again then would it be coercive and would it be coercion if you're dating a girl to be to tell her sh say she say she gets pregnant and you don't want to have the

Brian Atlaskid as the guy and you say babe I'm not ready for the kid say it's like a young a young couple they're both 19 M both 19 years old she gets pregnant accidentally I don't know whatever whatever the

Brian Atlasscenario she gets pregnant he doesn't want to keep the kid she's on the fence would it be coercion for him to say babe please get an abortion the best thing would be for guys just to not say

Noelanything at all men can't say anything at all they shouldn't tell her oh abort it they should just tell you I will support whatever decision so in a relationship you can never then hang on

Andrew Wilsonso then can they coers her to keep it yes but do you agree that men should try to coers their women to keep the child instead of aborting it well I

Noelthink because you're already having sex and accepting that you will get pregnant then yeah but she wants to abort it and he doesn't want her to do in your world

Andrew Wilsonview should he try to coer her to not murder the child well he's not the one carrying the child yeah I understand but

Andrew Wilsonmy question is if it comes to coercion in your worldview would you prefer that he coerced her into keeping the child me

Andrew Wilsonpersonally I think men should coer whoever to keep the child go over coercion is actually fine just depending

Andrew Wilsonon worldview right well in specifically talking about coercing a woman to abort that's not okay yeah I know but if coercing them not to abort is okay then we're just

Andrew Wilsontalking about a worldview difference so if both of these people don't think that abortion is murder then why would it not be okay for him to do a coercion towards

Andrew Wilsonabortion the same way you would that your man coerced you to not do an abortion honestly I don't quite understand what you're trying to get out

Noelso so assume for a second in your worldview you want men to coerce women to not have abortions right there there significant other I I personally believe that abortion is murder so I would hope

Noelthat men would convince their women to keep the child by basically by by coercion right yes that is coercion but I'm

Andrew Wilsontalking about if that's true what if both of them don't believe that it's an actual child then why shouldn't the man coers him not to have the child I don't

Andrew Wilsonunderstand because now it's just a worldview difference right you want them to coers based on what the best outcome is clearly I would want women to keep their

Andrew Wilsonchildren and not abort them that's what I would want right yeah right I know I understand and you wouldd want coercion in that case but if the other two people did not believe like you did and they both thought that it was not a child

Noelthen what would actually be the problem with the coercion in that case from your worldview I don't get it well I guess that would be situational if the woman is fine with it like this

Noelsituation well she didn't want to abort her child yeah but neither think it's a child that's the point right but she still didn't want to so I guess that's based on how that feels if said you said

Andrew Wilsonthat even if the woman wanted to abort though you'd want coercion on the other end me personally yes yeah that's my whole point though right it's like it seems like it's holding a a dualistic

Andrew Wilsonstandard to say that because you believe it's a child you want coercion that way but if they don't believe as a child you wouldn't want coercion the other way that's bizarre to me what are you trying

Daisy Chento say here so you're saying W should not take any responsibilities for this situation no I'm that paradigms I'm saying that when you look at worldview paradigms it's important to understand

Andrew Wilsonthat within her worldview actually coercion is fine as long as it's on behalf of the thing she wants it for that's my point on behalf of a Reproductive Rights I didn't want to as

Daisy ChenI said I didn't want to my point is I wanted to have this kid with him not alone yeah I know but that's my point

Andrew Wilsonbut but the thing is is that you believe that ultimately it's up to you to be able to make that decision correct yeah I get what you're trying to

Noeldo with the analogies with coercion and different situations but I was talking specifically on coercing a woman to abort it's never okay to yeah I'm talking specifically on that too which

Andrew Wilsonis why I asked you if a woman wanted to abort should a man coers her not to you say yes I don't think a man should coer a

Andrew Wilsonwoman to abort but yes but for her not to correct that would be fine yeah so if that's fine then what you're saying is that coercion actually is fine as long

Andrew Wilsonas it's just towards the things you want it to be fine for I guess I just don't think it's okay for a man woman so that's my whole that's my whole point here is that it seems that uh diametrically you don't even have a

Daisy Chenproblem with coercion he didn't coer people for what it is that you want right but that's not what he did first of all he's not 19 Walter is 34 37 I know I

Daisy Chenunderstand that just a little bit more you were talking about 19y old okay I understand yeah I get it I get it wait Andrew can you Center up Center up to to Daisy I just wanted to dive into the

Andrew Wilsoncouple of quick questions for you before I turn back over to Brian um I was just wondering this can you actually prove in any way shape or form that this was

Andrew WilsonWalter's child to be begin with yes I can if I go to court wait what you you can't prove it in any way

Daisy Chenat all I can't prove it's his child I can first of all he did not he did not um deny it's his baby cuz he know on

Daisy Chenthe on the record I know I don't have any medical proof to prove that he is his child but

Daisy Chenthere is a law that during this time I was with him in his bedroom sleeping under his roof from the time I when I

Andrew Wilsonmet him when I saw him let's just go ahead and assume I I mean I have a I have proof I don't know why we should but why why should we actually assume that this was his child or just for the sake of the why he stand up and say it's

Daisy Chennot his child in the beginning why didn't he just do a DNA test well I mean didn't you why he why he deny everything I I asked

Andrew WilsonDNA test could be done I ask him many times do a DNA test cuz he knows you know how long long how far long before you can do a DNA test I don't know six

Andrew Wilsoneight weeks I thought it weeks I thought it was really far long in the pregnancy yeah it's far it's way further long than 8 weeks uh you've aborted the child how could we ever make the determination it

Noelwas Walters to begin with well that's what judge decid right oh after all these you see I have proof if that was the only guy she was sleeping with then who else's would it

Noelbe no no no he's trying to say that I don't have proof why should we assume that either why should we actually make any assumptions absent proof or evidence why should we assume

Andrew Wilsonthat I mean she was dating him like she moved out there for him who else was she going to be sleeping with well I mean the thing is is a absent proof for evidence why should we just assume that

Daisy Chenthis was then why he didn't prove that not his baby well the burden of proof would be on you not on me ask him why didn't he stand up and say it's not my

Andrew Wilsonchild why didn't he deny on the phone why didn't he deny anything why did he keep quiet okay so so it could he's admitting it could have been I'll admit

Andrew Wilsonit could have been but we don't actually have any proof that it was you're saying that because I AB B the kid and I asked him many now there's no evidence right so so how could we ever make this the

Daisy Chendetermination whose kid it was not my de decision spoliation of evidence know that that I got pregnant during the time I stay in his house that's let judge

Brian Atlasdecide wait Andrew did you have more questions otherwise I can just I just have one quick followup and then I'll turn it right back over perfect um last thing is I just want to make sure um

Andrew Wilsonwhen you got your pregnancy test I just want to I just want to be clear how far along were you when you got your pregnancy

Daisy Chentest all I know is when I saw him on March 12th oh March 9th I just finished my period I just finished my period on

Andrew WilsonMarch 9th and then when I left Miami it was March 26th and did you did you have an actual

Daisy Chenultrasound or did you have a just like a Pete on it thing I had blood test both and the and the and the pregnancy test

Daisy Chenblood test then I went ahead on April 5th I got an ult show sound so you so you did you did have an ultrasound yes I

Andrew Wilsondid okay and you have You released the ultrasound yes I did okay so I just want to make sure that you had an ultrasound uh for that and that so it was past uh 8

Andrew Wilsonweeks I just want to make sure no it wasn't 8 weeks it wasn't 8 weeks for the ultrasound how how long was it for the

Daisy Chenultrasound I don't know I'm not sure if you had to guess how long was it for do the conation from March of March

Daisy Chenof 9th till April 1st April April 5th that's the day I do I I got two OS sound for like four four

Andrew Wilsonweeks roughly or just under five weeks or something like that yeah yeah so four or five weeks um I I'm just doing a little bit of basic research and it looks to me now I could be totally wrong

Andrew Wilsonon this just wanted to speak to it that usually ultrasounds aren't done until the six week

Daisy Chenmarker yeah so I did both time first time ultra sound uh there was like very very little doubt and the doctor said

Daisy Chenit's not clear to see and then on March 15th I got another ultro sound okay so you got two of them done I don't remember two or three I have to look on

Brian Atlasmy phone okay okay I just I just want to make sure I got I I just want to make sure I was clear on it that's all I appreciate it so this is what we're going to do I have a few more questions

Brian AtlasI want to try if possible to just get through all of them as quick as I can and then I'll pass Andrew if you have anything and then I will we'll just move on to the regular Regular Show because

Brian Atlaswe have been just to be cons of the other panelists here we've been talking about this most of the show for quite a long time so uh Noel going back to you you

Brian Atlassaid that uh at the 15minute mark of that we are the victims video you said something along the lines of you're leaking private information about myin

Brian Atlasabout his condom usage Plan B usage uh that came I don't know do you are you do you have something against myin too or I don't have anything against either of them I

Noeljust think they're both Hypocrites and that's not really private information that stuff has been already been online he has like a drawer full of plan B's in one of his okay his old condo or whatever I was just going to I I don't

Brian Atlasknow I feel like it's always again I feel like I'm old school I don't ever leak anything private when it comes to friend friends family and relationships I was just going to see if you feel like it's appropriate to although you're

Brian Atlasclaiming it's already public information public uh 16 minute 10 seconds in you said it's not legal to manipulate someone into an abortion it's coercion it's a crime illegal we already talked

Brian Atlasabout that um although it's not clear to me like for example the phone call that Walter and uh Daisy

Brian Atlashad any and maybe I should wait until Daisy's back to ask this but is any of the conduct that you heard in that phone call the leaked phone call between Walter and Daisy was anything there that

Brian Atlashe said uh coercion or manipulative not in that phone call but online for sure the text messages yeah okay what specifically did he say that

Noelyou viewed as coer coercive I mean telling her that he doesn't want to have a kid that he been over this I don't really want to reiterate right I mean I'm not sure precisely if it actually is

Brian Atlasa crime but assuming it is you're you would be totally fine with Walter being prosecuted for saying I don't want to have kid you think that that's that

Brian Atlasought to be criminally prosecuted I don't agree with what he did and I don't really have well just answer the question do you think it should be criminally prosecuted for a man to say

Brian Atlasto a woman who's pregnant with uh his child for that man to say I don't want to have this kid I mean to coers yeah I think it's no answer the question though do you think that should be

Brian Atlascriminally uh do you think saying I don't want to have a kid should open up a man to criminal prosecution I I honestly I don't know how well you said it's coercion right

Noelthat's what the law says I'm just going off what the law says okay well do you agree with the law let's assume it's the law do you agree with it if it's the law and it could be implemented and they could be go to court and be found guilty

Brian Atlasfor that then sure all right at the 2345 Mark you say uh this is why women don't come out in reference to I guess you know

Noeltheir conduct you feel like I don't know um but come out about what the wrongdoings that some guys do that Walter did to you no just well you came

Noelout about with Daisy about telling her to abort it and then about like the stuff with me like it's so like that's a very real but come out about what like you said this is why women don't come

Noelout you had consensual sex with him you admit to this like are you trying to like are you trying to meet to Walter over consensual sex I'm not trying to meet to him I'm just trying to show

Andrew Wilsonpeople that he's a massive hypocrite she just felt me will you yourself sign on to a a law suit suing Walter for coercion no I wouldn't this isn't about me this is about Daisy I yeah but I'm

Brian Atlasasking you specifically would you do that no okay no so I don't know it's

Brian Atlaslike G you consented to everything maybe he was not moving the best is it is this really just a case have you kind of regretted the experience or you had a

Noelbad time with with this guy I don't regret the experience I didn't have a really bad time with him I just people should see that he's a massive hypocrite and women should know what hypocrite

Noelhow a hypocrite how he he plays the red pill card and he's going to go and tell a woman to have an abortion like he's a massive hypocrite I don't think red pillers are necessarily against abortion

Daisy Chenthey're about men stepping up as father I think so is that a prescription of the the red pill for I mean all they talk about is high

Daisy Chenvalue men and I don't well she was just trying to help me like as woman to woman cuz she felt me and something happened similar something similar happened to

Andrew Wilsonher so she wasn't even supposed to yeah does it sound logical to both of you from our end hearing this that since both of you interlock with the same man

Andrew Wilsonand you both had bad experiences with him that because uh um Daisy here saw this as an act of Revenge that you assisted her with it because you also

Noelwanted in your own way little bit of a payback that's not revenge or payback PE I'm just trying to expose him as a hypocrite yeah I know but isn't that in and of itself some payback just a little

Andrew Wilsonbit of Vengeance sure a little bit but that's not the intention bro you guys isn't it though like what would be what would the opposite to the intention be if it wasn't to kind of get a little bit

Noelof Revenge a little bit of pay back for what you feel like he did to you I mean honestly I don't really care like I don't like okay wait you do care

Brian Atlasthough right now I don't I really don't about what the whole the whole situation I'm like okay so wait if you don't care then can I get a commitment from you

Brian Atlashere on out that you'll just cease attempting to expose Walter yeah like this is the last time I'm talking about it I have Daisy what about you you down to just drop it

Brian Atlasthey didn't ask me to do this by the way they don't even like me drop I just this isn't even about me trying to like get in good with like I just see this I don't I don't like Brian either to be fair what the [ __ ] Andrew you're my

Daisy ChenCaucasian dude how could you say that no but all I'm saying is people see what happened here I'm I'm okay to take my accountability but we also have to see my point of you why I did that in the

Daisy Chenbeginning there is a reason why I did that it's not like he treat me good sudden I expose him I got some more questions though you ready okay

Brian AtlasNoel you Expos that he likes can't believe you guys already put it out there why would you put this out there you expose that he likes nipple

Andrew Wilsonplay you called him gay I think I said I don't know he might be bisexual that's private intimate information why would you expose that

Andrew Wilsonabout you like does that mean you banged a a gay dude what no that was speculation not just her I got other text message from her his

Andrew Wilsonex he's ex told me about the I'm person I have I have sensitive nipples I don't like it could his could his ex want a little bit of Revenge could his ex want a little bit of

Andrew WilsonRevenge as well but why is everyone try to take advant of him why asking why well it it seems like there's a lot of women who are out to get a little bit of revenge against why you got to yuck his young because why you guys got to yuck

Brian Atlashis yum he likes a bit come on most of the stuff nipple play it's okay let the guy live a little bit let him live He's living what do you what you got da Daisy

Brian Atlasdo you do you have anything you know little little on the frisky side what I don't know maybe you like a guy to play with your your knee or something some girls like have like a oh oh rub my knee baby I don't know you got anything like

Brian Atlasthat yeah I know that's not that's not necessary to to say if dating and you bought me a $30,000 purse and and you to and we've been intimate we've been dating and you're

Brian Atlaslike Brian I really like it when you touch my clavicle this this part right here no that's okay hold on that's a little weird ran I like it when you I don't know if you if you did

Brian Atlassomething crazy like you you like to make like cat noises or some [ __ ] I I wouldn't come out and be like hey yo Daisy she like wants to be a cat while we're having

Daisy Chenyou know what I mean yeah I know but why don't we pull up pull up some evidence that when he when he done wrong things wrong why we always pull up things

Andrew Wilsonthat's I'm saying would you like it if a guy leaked to the world intimate details about this is not necessary you guys don't have any with great with great accusation comes a great responsibility

Andrew Wilsonto prove said accusation he has not accused you you have accused him he accused her of being an escort he's accused her of a lot he accused he he defensively he has defended himself but

Daisy Chenhe did not go publicly accuse her of anything he did not that was done by you not by him but he did not defend on himself that the fact he didn't make me pregnant why didn't he perhaps but he he

Andrew Wilsonnever made any of this he why did he TR to make people distracted sitation is that he did not publicly go after you on this you publicly went after him

Andrew Wilsonrecorded him and then went after hang on you went after him publicly once you did that of course people want you to be able to prove your accusations

Noelyou're the accuser you're the accuser did which I did I post all the receipt I have a question for Andrew do you think men should Step Up in situations like

Andrew Wilsonthese and take on the responsibility answer the question if the situation is that you get a woman pregnant should you take care of your

Andrew Wilsonchild absolutely okay in this particular case though I'm not certain that that's actually what happened here and I'm not convinced that that's what happened here

Andrew Wilsonand there's more holes in this story than a block of Swiss cheese so I'm trying to get to the heart of it and I'm not I'm not so sure that this is uh this is exactly how things went down just

Andrew Wilsonbecause they're presented that way of course you the more that the more that we question it the more we start to get to the bottom of it the more this looks like a venge blot by the admission of

Andrew Wilsonboth of you to try to get uh some kind of baxes at these guys because they basically [ __ ] you and or he [ __ ] you and dumped you right I mean basically he [ __ ] you both and then he dumped you both and you're pissed off

Andrew Wilsonthen every time I try to go in the queries and give you a chance to defend yourselves against that allegation that I'm making you basically prove it true over and over and over again by your own

Daisy Chenreason love something that I could prove that he's a [ __ ] okay yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] to

Brian Atlasagainst that assle send you a video would you play right now I'd have to review it I'd have to review it first what's it what's the okay let's just be fair right here right now okay let's do

Brian Atlasit wait oh she I just I do want to double down here I don't think it was fair for you guys to leak the nipple play stuff I mean come on it's not it was that stuff has already been on

Brian AtlasReddit it's already talked about I don't know it's intimate would you like it if a guy shared intimate details maybe you like something a little little out there you know ladies

Noelany any of you got like a weird Kink or anything you know you wouldn't want a partner to leak that [ __ ] about you maybe you want to like I don't know well I think they should be a little smarter you have a huge platform you have a lot of people watching you maybe get girls

Noelto sign ndas I don't know maybe be smart about it especially if you're going to be [ __ ] so many different people you heard it here first be equal here

Brian Atlasget the ndas boys get the get those ndas out if you got any weird sorry not weird if you got any crazy Kinks out there don't you can't let these girls be leaking

Brian Atlas[ __ ] right okay moving on play the video please I got I got to look at it first hold on uh let me just

Brian Atlasget get through this then I'll look at the video uh let's see you said 34 we will we will get to the other girls I promise well we guys eventually

Brian AtlasI think we give this another 10 minutes tops then we got to move on okay uh let's see you uh oh at 5640 you said you realize that

Brian Atlashaving sex doesn't mean you're not traditional you still hold the same traditional beliefs the man should provide it doesn't make me doesn't make you doesn't make me not a Christian I still believe in God that's what you

Brian Atlassaid Noel at the 5640 Mark and this is in reference to the fact that you did you hooked up with fresh yeah you

Brian Atlasknow pretty quickly um but uh I did want to offer a little push back there uh I would argue

Noelthat having casual sex isn't doesn't really fall into being like a traditional Christian woman well everybody sins

Brian Atlaseverybody even the best of Christians they still do things that you know okay but let me ask you a question let me ask you a question so let's say you met like a would you be willing to wait until

Noelmarriage last time we talked about this that ship has sailed I would be no but what I'm saying is let's say you met a a fantastic good value Christian man and he wanted to wait until marriage would

Noelyou be open to that absolutely but the issue is finding one that will wait till marriage and those are almost non-existent but do you think it would be a hard hard

Brian Atlassale to that kind of guy who has those kind of values to learn that you got flown out

Brian Atlasby Top Dog podcaster you had sex with him within you steep through his door you guys basically got right down to business but they were talking for a

Brian Atlaswhile we were already talking came out there for a cou and he also made her feel like he wanted to make her as a girlfriend look I actually don't look me personally I'm not a big fan of waiting but but if you're going to like hold

Daisy Chenyourself out as like this traditional Christian woman and then it's like you got flown out just you know that that's first time I've ever been flown out and I've only had sex inside relation bad

Noelthat's not bad it's because they're they're in a long distance the only way she could do is fly out to see him okay let me explain I I've only had sex inside relationships I don't go having one night stands or hooking up with

Brian Atlaspeople it's not a new guy every week it's I find someone to commit to and then yes we have sex but let me ask you a question so when you were on our show you were in a you had just gone out of a relationship if I recall you were on our

Brian Atlasshow in November of 2023 I think it was October October no whatever uh you were youd broken up with him I assume it was a sexual relationship MH in December you

Brian Atlashad a sexual relationship with fresh yes and then you said that you broke up 2 months ago and you were again in a relation a sexual relationship yeah I

Noelstarted dating someone in January and then by February he proposed to me and were there any other sexual relationships at all no

Noelokay all right I mean just I'm a little confused here about the whole being traditional well I don't I'm not drinking I don't do drugs

NoelI don't go out clubbing I'm not shaking my ass on dudes like I'm not I I'm very reserved but you didn't get flown out and smashed it's not a weekly get flown

Daisy Chenout she just went to see someone she she's into fly out that's not was a bit of a fly out just a little bit of a fly out he played it okay I'm not I don't object to it's not like they just met first day talking for a month they were

Noeltalking each other for a month they would video call each other for a month they actually had connections that's why she flown up he played it off like he was trying to pursue me and like I said in the last one I'm very transparent when I start talking to a guy I tell them look I'm

Noelonly interested in marriage and having children so if he's going to lie and deceive that's not on me that's his problem okay okay I am a fool to believe him that's on me but and I do want to point out you said you'd been following

Andrew Wilsontheir podcast for a while mhm I don't you said did you think that flying did you think that flying out to Miami and staying with this guy was not

Noelgoing to lead to sex I knew it was going to we had already already been talking like you knew it right I didn't just talk to him one time and fly out no we had been I mean he flew out there cuz he was going to you

Andrew Wilsonwere going to smash right like that's what that's what was going to go down you knew it out don't think that women think romantically ad she just admitted she knew the intentions were what are you

Daisy Chentrying to get fresh was probably like no but just it's not just St for her for her it was romantic it was romance it was connection between her and the guy but do you really think do you really

Kelly/Destiny/Ateri/Maddie (mixed)think do you really think he was like this was the guy you're going to marry no I wanted to figure that out be honest you you like yo but like what were the odds that you thought that he was the man that you're going to marry because

Brian Atlasif you've seen the show before like it can it should be quite obvious that like not marri wait did you know he had a thousand body count did you know that when I flew out to see him I did not know that and like I said I didn't know

Noelabout the hill Mar video I didn't know about a lot of stuff I've only seen like I said the clips and the reals from the podcast but you didn't know about the Thousand body count CL I didn't know that because like you got to think right if he's like he might be selling the dream but if he's saying I got a

Noelthousand body count I didn't know about that a thousand one is going to be that's going to be the one that works out like I said I didn't know about the Thousand body count until afterwards

Background/Productionokay all right why don't we play the hill Mary I'll I'll look at it I'll take a look no no no you promis did I I know hold on play the tape did I promise I'm not sure if I promise hang on hang on I

Andrew Wilsondo take notes as we go on the show Daisy I'll let you know what he said he said I will take a look at it and review it before I but there is a reason why don't you guys play because now right now you try to look us make us it seems like

Daisy Chenyou're deflecting you're deflecting let's play a video when w admitted something okay that's the proof and it kind of sounds like wait you ask me to prove something I'm

Andrew WilsonI'm proving to you play the video and in the video what will we find the proof of you will see you I will see the proof of what I'm not proof that

Daisy Chenit's a cation is this like about fake jewelry is that the thing that's the like beginning part you don't have to play that play the hell marry I don't know why why

Daisy Chennot like let's just be fair right here cuz you guys are accusing us for being do mean what do you mean Fair let's let's just be fair on both side if you

Andrew Wilsonwant to if you want to defend on him okay I have no no issue I say I say play it I say that whatever you play I'll probably be able to review

Andrew Wilsonin 15 seconds I say play it okay I'll put I we want to be fair right here on the whatever podcast I do not El any arguments I do not want to contend with

Andrew Wilsonany arguments that are not done in the fairest light possible for some reason I have a feeling though that whatever he's about to play is not going to be pertinent in any way to your situation but still I'm I'm down I'm good I'm I'm

Brian Atlasgame Brian okay okay I'll play it in a moment let me finish my questions we'll play it but then we got to Andrew I'll give you five 10 minutes if you got any questions but for the we got to be nice to the other

Andrew Wilsonpanelist we do have to yeah I agree we we do need to move on the other pan hour okay um last thing really really by the way they've been very patient thank you guys for being thank you guys for waiting if you guys want well we got some chips

Brian Atlasback there pieces sorry about that anyways okay uh Noel you you it seems like you do have a history of going public um you

Noelwere dating another man and you went public about that relationship oh the like on your Tik Tok I would prefer not to bring that up oh

Noelyou you don't want to talk about it no that was horrible okay um you don't want to get into the details just to be clear if you guys it's public like it's on my Tik Tok I

Brian Atlaslike nobody's exposing me for anything and that was a very real situation and that's why I feel for her so I it was something well then I won't pull it up but you you said in this you said that

Brian Atlashe abused your Reproductive Rights you said he became iic threatened me and gave me no choice but to lose my precious baby so what do you mean by and

Noelwhen you say ler precious baby I'm I'm assuming I me he dragged me by the hair into his car and drove me two hours away somewhere I didn't know and literally quite literally forced me to get one so I'm not going to talk about thatmore

Noelwell if that if that's what happened that's obviously not acceptable um yeah it it was physical it wasn't coercion that was actually like I ended up in the hospital so um

Brian Atlaswas there was there any component of like telling when you did get to the hospital being like hey I'm being [ __ ] abused he threatened me if I

Brian Atlaswere to say anything I it was either my life or okay so well don't I uh I do not coign on that uh and

Brian Atlasuh let's see here um I think we'll I think we'll pull up the video is it it's not decep deceptively edited though is it no it's not edit

Brian Atlasit's not okay yeah well just to be fair since you requested I'm not going to just you know be like here's all you're not going to be allowed to share anything not share any proof or anything

Andrew Wilsonjust to be fair Nick I'm going to send this in the private chat um no no no I I I was just kidding um wait what you two you two are [ __ ] horrific and you've

Andrew WilsonAl these allegations are insane we picked them apart in 15 seconds and these other women have been waiting patiently for us to get to them and both of you need to get up where you're at

Andrew Wilsonand get the [ __ ] out of here you make me sick both of you make me sick I don't want to hear [ __ ] Brian I want him out get the [ __ ] out of here get out of here

Andrew Wilsonwith your [ __ ] false allegations you both [ __ ] suck your stories are [ __ ] and by the way you got down what happened

Andrew Wilsonhere this guy humped you and he dumped you and he want off now you finally showing your true true color because you're a [ __ ] idiot yeah shut up shut

Andrew Wilsonup thanks for showing us who you are we're not getting off we're not leaving we are not leaving we're the guest here we are not leaving oh you demand to stay well then

Daisy Chenstay in silence while we get to the rest of the girl we're not staying silence because we're the guest here that's the main reason why we here why should we be Sil now you're UNG guested I'm pulling

Daisy Chenrank [ __ ] out get out who the hell are you to tell me that I'm the guy on this end of the screen get the get up you have no right and power no because you

Andrew Wilsonafraid to play this video we're not not W so shut the [ __ ] up you're here on a visa from the Chinese government American Citi not even father

Daisy Chenyou need to get the [ __ ] out of Studio you need to do I'm not going to just let him yell him see this is the type of guy that's teaching you guys for being an irresponsible man can I see this video

Andrew Wilsonhe's showing us that's who he is right now exactly the same as Walter Wicks you mean awesome in every way I'm sorry that you went

Andrew Wilsondowned you and you couldn't you couldn't ENT trap him in your little [ __ ] CCP scam I'm terribly sorry that that happened that you went down on a student visa [ __ ] this guy he nutted in you a

Andrew Wilsonton of times by your own Mission you let him and then you tried to entrap him You released the recording and it didn't go over exactly how you thought it would go over did

Andrew Wilsonit it didn't work out you tried to entra this guy did it lady why keep the we don't [ __ ] believe you broad we don't believe you you don't have to believe me

Andrew Wilsonjust have human dog [ __ ] oh [ __ ] you are disgusting I didn't like you from the first time I saw you CU you hate women

Daisy Chenout of here you hate women you understand wait guys guys you have no respect for women that's why you here AR right now I brought the

Andrew Wilsonvideo you murdered your child Mur Mother's Day how do you like that you murdered your kid happy Mother's Day murderer and the woman next to you she

Andrew Wilsonagrees with me how does that make you feel how does that make the entire CCP feel that you're down here getting pregn ated and murdering your Offspring how do that make you feel ladies does that make

Brian Atlasyou feel good chill calm down who what the hell is going on wait hold on this whole CCP angle here is totally

Brian Atlasnew to me are you involved with the Communist uh party of China I'm not going to talk about anything with well hold on if you if you omit here yeah can you badmouth can you

Andrew Wilsonright now publicly can you badmouth the CCP for us just so that we know you're not a communist spy can you badmouth the CCP I don't can you say that the is bad why do you bring up politics I'm asking

Daisy Chenyou can you bad mouth can you badmouth the CCP right now live on this show or are you I don't know what you talking about wait is this talk about politics no I don't know so we're not here talk

Andrew Wilsonwhat the Communist Party of your own country is can you criticize a single politician from your country right now why do you even talk about my country what's that because I know exactly what your country does with these entra go to

Brian Atlasmy country and talk about this they do this is the only way you can talk about this is the only thing you can bought up now you're going to criticize my country guys I don't I'm not now you're going to criticize my country let me just because

Brian Atlasyou have nothing else to say you know you're wrong cuz you know you are loser and you're wrong Andrew let me ask you a question Andrew let me ask you a question are you I just don't want I don't want to promote any misinformation

Brian Atlason my are you alleging that this whole thing this is this is breaking news that this whole thing was like some some uh CCP

Andrew Wilsonattack on Walter Walter well I don't know she's here on a work visa you know she uh she taret this guy she she's releasing

Andrew Wilsonaudio it's see is sure sounds like some uh CCP style SP is water a politican is water a CH hit is Walter A politican yes I'm asking you yes yes his show is

Andrew Wilsonhighly political and highly politically engaged it wouldn't surprise me a bit if you were part of some CCP spy Network like many have been the upper etalons of government it wouldn't surprise me a bit

Brian AtlasI I didn't know that he was going to come in with the CCP angle I swear I had I'm Ser like this is I don't know where he's even getting this [ __ ] from

Andrew Wilsoncuz he tried to get me leave I'm not leaving guess what well then stay while we get to the other fine gals who have been waiting patiently for us to talk let's wait for

Brian Atlasthe video hold on I'm going to return on if anybody wants I'm going to return on the TTS oh my God has everything I'm sorry guys it's been off this whole time [ __ ] it's been it hasn't been popping up

TTS/Donationsfor those of you I'm very sorry it's just going to like come through I'm sorry guys I don't know $199 I don't know what happened here

TTS/Donationsboys you decided unilaterally to kill a child take away Boys Don't nut inside of stupid like these chicks the more they

Brian Atlastalk Dumber they are Andrew want to hear from you my spirit animal by the way that came in these are coming in a long time ago just giving you guys a heads up on some of these I'm going to have to

Brian Atlasread some of them because they've fallen off Jeremy thank you for for that appreciated we have kill of cial throwing a wrench into the mix happy Mother's Day have your parents told you

Brian Atlashow they met if so how which parent was more of a rock in your life um here we'll go around uh the question is have your parents told you how they met oh

Brian Atlasman you want the stories from all the women that's a long uh how your parents met okay you'll have you guys will have to give quick answers on that uh I'm going to write

Brian Atlasall these down because they're just now coming in I apologize guys we wanted to turn it off just so there weren't interruptions while we were just trying to get through the uh main story uh good times good

Brian Atlastimes it's going to take forever to get through all of these so while we're doing that um how did your parents meet quick answers if you can guys we'll go around the table family introdution they

Brian Atlasmet at JC Penney working there let me read this subscribe YouTube poken poke poking podcast okay yep there

Destinyit is pro okay poen PR on um I don't know how my parents met um and uh my mom was definitely like a a brck in my life okay Inquisitor Zeal Andrew she did answer

Brian Atlasyour questions she said it's a problem not because it's murder but because she was forced to do something she didn't want to to an individualist that is the ultimate crime okay thank you an individualist from the Communist Party

Andrew Wilsonof China really that kind of individualist yeah okay okay sell sell me sell me another lie sell me another lie oh wow okay all right uh how did your parents meet um my mom's brothers

Kelly/Destiny/Ateri/Maddie (mixed)were can you straighten up your microphone oh yeah my mom's brothers were my dad's friends what about you blind date blind date okay uh my parents are high school sweethearts High School

Brian Atlassweethearts yeah okay cool all right appreciate it guys we have a bunch coming in right now um we've never done that before where we kind of like pause it but uh just wanted to make sure we

Brian Atlascould get through everything okay he's just blast casting that thing out um Good Times we're waiting on oh you know what while we're waiting for some of these to come through we're going to ask

Brian Atlasthe age-old question here Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 Daisy starting with you uh what do you I was

Daisy Chenjust wondering why don't we play the video right now well because the other these ladies need to talk cuz he got so obsessed and so can we just play the video If Daisy want to see it I think we should just see it I just want to know

TTS/Donationswhat it is but now Daisy you're disrupting the show don't disrupt the show be $200 Daisy and her blond bimbo cook

TTS/Donationsconspirator thank you you two have proven my point of telling men to avoid all clout and money chasing demons such

Brian Atlasas yourselves gents focus on yourselves okay uh all right thank you uh thank you zentience appreciate

Brian Atlashey dude zentience I haven't seen you in forever man really appreciate your uh TTS sorry that there was a delay what the [ __ ] that is not how that normally looks oh our twitch is all scuffed okay

Brian AtlasI got to fix that um streamlabs did a whole bunch of weird weird [ __ ] so I have to redo all that stuff um hold on I'll come back to that I'm just checking here to make sure I

Brian Atlasknow a few of these fell off there was LP did we do the one from real Trump I think we did that one came

TTS/Donationsthrough okay I hate hypocrites donated $200 Andro acts holier than that and shreds women apart for their pasts but he married a 304 who had five kids by

TTS/Donationsthree different men and he had his kids with her out of wedlock they are complete Hypocrites Andre respon did she kill any of them did she kill any of her

Andrew Wilsonkids son no no she didn't kill any of them unlike a certain CCP murderer who is here before you today you can give all sorts of

Andrew Wilsoncriticism to my wife because she's supposed to Andrew where's but just saying but just saying just going to throw this out sorry that my wife didn't kill her kids sorry that that upsets you

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