ØF VlRGlN?! 18 With A BBL?! Methany?! Feminists vs. Andrew! Gigachad! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #223

Date: 2025-01-27

Duration: 7h 30m

Guests

SSophia Summers >

AAbigail Letz >

SScarlet Hampton >

BBella Angelina >

BBrandon Clark >

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Sky(guest)

SPEAKER_04Scarlet Hampton(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bella Angelina(guest)

SPEAKER_06Sophia Summers(guest)

SPEAKER_07Eva(guest)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brandon Clark(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Nina(guest)

SPEAKER_13Peaches(guest)

SPEAKER_14Abigail Letz(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian opens the show: 'Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your host Brian Atlas.'

QuoteBrian opens the show: 'Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your host Brian Atlas.'

Key MomentSophia confirms she is a virgin OnlyFans creator: Brian asks 'So you're what, a virgin?' and she says 'Yeah, no, yeah, I'm a virgin.'

Key MomentSophia confirms she is a virgin OnlyFans creator: Brian asks 'So you're what, a virgin?' and she says 'Yeah, no, yeah, I'm a virgin.'

OtherSophia reveals she had a BBL, breast augmentation (850cc), and chin lipo all done at once in the Dominican Republic right when she turned 18, paid for with savings from working since age 14.

OtherSophia reveals she had a BBL, breast augmentation (850cc), and chin lipo all done at once in the Dominican Republic right when she turned 18, paid for with savings from working since age 14.

QuoteSophia reads her OnlyFans bio to Brian: 'I love being a plastic doll. Help me grow and achieve my perfect bimbo body. I want to go much much bigger. All tips go towards surgery.'

QuoteSophia reads her OnlyFans bio to Brian: 'I love being a plastic doll. Help me grow and achieve my perfect bimbo body. I want to go much much bigger. All tips go towards surgery.'

OtherSophia explains her BBL plan: she wants 3-4 BBLs total. She intentionally eats a lot to gain weight, then gets lipo again. Wants to eventually look like Gracie Bon.

OtherSophia explains her BBL plan: she wants 3-4 BBLs total. She intentionally eats a lot to gain weight, then gets lipo again. Wants to eventually look like Gracie Bon.

QuoteBrian declares himself a 'Natural Body Supremacist' and says he'd prefer a flat A-cup over perfect fake breasts. Claims an 80% poll result from his Twitter showing men prefer flat over fake.

QuoteBrian declares himself a 'Natural Body Supremacist' and says he'd prefer a flat A-cup over perfect fake breasts. Claims an 80% poll result from his Twitter showing men prefer flat over fake.

QuoteBrian tells Sophia/OF girls: 'If all women collectively were like we're not sleeping with men until we're married, y'all would be courted like women and y'all would all be wives.'

QuoteBrian tells Sophia/OF girls: 'If all women collectively were like we're not sleeping with men until we're married, y'all would be courted like women and y'all would all be wives.'

ControversyScarlet Hampton breaks down crying during the prostitution/sex work debate. Describes how women end up doing things on camera without full consent, trying to please bosses. Says she doesn't promote her OF anymore because she's seen how porn hurts people. She left the set temporarily.

ControversyScarlet Hampton breaks down crying during the prostitution/sex work debate. Describes how women end up doing things on camera without full consent, trying to please bosses. Says she doesn't promote her OF anymore because she's seen how porn hurts people. She left the set temporarily.

ControversyAndrew responds to Scarlet's claims of innocence: 'These women will do this all the time — they'll be like oh my God I was perfectly innocent, I had an angelic halo... and then the evil men came and corrupted me. That's obvious BS.' He calls her story implausible.

ControversyAndrew responds to Scarlet's claims of innocence: 'These women will do this all the time — they'll be like oh my God I was perfectly innocent, I had an angelic halo... and then the evil men came and corrupted me. That's obvious BS.' He calls her story implausible.

OtherSophia reveals she has epilepsy (3 months seizure-free), POTS, and Raynaud's. Her parents support her OF because she can't drive or do many normal jobs due to these conditions.

OtherSophia reveals she has epilepsy (3 months seizure-free), POTS, and Raynaud's. Her parents support her OF because she can't drive or do many normal jobs due to these conditions.

ControversyAndrew vs panel: extended chivalry debate. Andrew: you can't demand equality AND expect chivalrous treatment. If women demand equal status, men get no incentive to open doors, go down with the ship, pay for dates, or fight wars. Peaches argues chivalry should not be transactional.

ControversyAndrew vs panel: extended chivalry debate. Andrew: you can't demand equality AND expect chivalrous treatment. If women demand equal status, men get no incentive to open doors, go down with the ship, pay for dates, or fight wars. Peaches argues chivalry should not be transactional.

OtherSophia reveals she made her boyfriend wait 7 months for sex and lost her virginity at age 16 to him (her only partner). Her current body count remains 1 despite doing OnlyFans.

OtherSophia reveals she made her boyfriend wait 7 months for sex and lost her virginity at age 16 to him (her only partner). Her current body count remains 1 despite doing OnlyFans.

Key MomentPeaches confirms she is a swinger: 'We sleep with other people together, together, never apart. I've slept with women by myself — just me and women.' Brian: 'So you are a swinger.' Peaches: 'Yes.'

Key MomentPeaches confirms she is a swinger: 'We sleep with other people together, together, never apart. I've slept with women by myself — just me and women.' Brian: 'So you are a swinger.' Peaches: 'Yes.'

QuoteBrian: 'If women had their body count written on their forehead, all the problems of the world would be fixed — there would be families and children again, women would be conducting themselves properly, men would be conducting themselves properly.'

QuoteBrian: 'If women had their body count written on their forehead, all the problems of the world would be fixed — there would be families and children again, women would be conducting themselves properly, men would be conducting themselves properly.'

Key MomentBella recounts the Bronx Tale car door test: open the car door for a girl, then walk around. If she reaches over and unlocks your door, she's the one. She says this test told her about her son's father.

Key MomentBella recounts the Bronx Tale car door test: open the car door for a girl, then walk around. If she reaches over and unlocks your door, she's the one. She says this test told her about her son's father.

OtherAbigail's Ohio story: 'Terry from Walmart' — a man who wore heels to Walmart every day hoping to get fired for a discrimination lawsuit, but never got fired, so had to keep wearing them. Now everyone just calls him 'Terry'.

OtherAbigail's Ohio story: 'Terry from Walmart' — a man who wore heels to Walmart every day hoping to get fired for a discrimination lawsuit, but never got fired, so had to keep wearing them. Now everyone just calls him 'Terry'.

ControversyAndrew vs Peaches: 90-minute debate on moral relativism, objective vs relative ethics, whether harm-based ethics can condemn culturally accepted atrocities (Papua New Guinea example), gang bang society vs nuclear family society. Andrew argues secular ethics can always justify bad behavior; Christian ethics have unchanging standard.

ControversyAndrew vs Peaches: 90-minute debate on moral relativism, objective vs relative ethics, whether harm-based ethics can condemn culturally accepted atrocities (Papua New Guinea example), gang bang society vs nuclear family society. Andrew argues secular ethics can always justify bad behavior; Christian ethics have unchanging standard.

ControversyAndrew makes personal attack on Peaches and her partner: 'Because your husband is a cuck and because you're in an open relationship, I'll always have a higher social status than him no matter what, the second they learn he engages in cuckery my social status will be higher.'

ControversyAndrew makes personal attack on Peaches and her partner: 'Because your husband is a cuck and because you're in an open relationship, I'll always have a higher social status than him no matter what, the second they learn he engages in cuckery my social status will be higher.'

ControversyAndrew's most aggressive moment: 'You're so f***ing stupid... your entire ethical system revolves around how many dudes can plug you and your justification for that... that's why we call you c*mers, degenerates, and disgusting heathens.' — directed at Peaches. Peaches stays calm; Bella protests.

ControversyAndrew's most aggressive moment: 'You're so f***ing stupid... your entire ethical system revolves around how many dudes can plug you and your justification for that... that's why we call you c*mers, degenerates, and disgusting heathens.' — directed at Peaches. Peaches stays calm; Bella protests.

OtherAndrew Wilson departs the show: 'It's 3am here. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. I don't take any of this personally. Was nice to meet all of you.' Brian thanks him and sends a Crucible raid.

OtherAndrew Wilson departs the show: 'It's 3am here. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. I don't take any of this personally. Was nice to meet all of you.' Brian thanks him and sends a Crucible raid.

QuoteEnd-of-show call to action: Brian asks each OF/sex work panelist if they will quit right now. All decline. Nina advocates for the younger girls saying it's not too late to change trajectory.

QuoteEnd-of-show call to action: Brian asks each OF/sex work panelist if they will quit right now. All decline. Nina advocates for the younger girls saying it's not too late to change trajectory.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian goes around the table having all 10 guests introduce themselves with name, age, location, occupation, education, and relationship status. Includes extended discussion about Sophia's 18yo virgin OnlyFans status and her BBL/plastic surgery, Scarlet's porn career context, Bella's son and past DV relationship, Sky's dead mom and running away from home, Brandon's virginity, and Andrew Wilson's introduction.

Plastic Surgery, BBLs, and the Bimbo Aesthetic

Extended discussion of Sophia's multiple plastic surgeries (BBL, 850cc breast augmentation, chin lipo), her plan to get 3-4 BBLs total by gaining weight then getting lipo, and her 'plastic doll / bimbo' aesthetic goals (inspired by Kim Kardashian, Nicki Minaj, Gracie Bon, AUAB). Debate on whether men truly prefer natural bodies or fake bodies despite saying otherwise. Male preference polls, the 70% natural statistic from a donor, and Sophia's defense of her choices. Discussion of whether plastic surgery is a proxy for mental illness. Whether taxpayer-funded cosmetic surgery should exist.

Tattoos, First Impressions, and Pattern Recognition

Discussion of whether tattoos on women are a red flag or neutral. Andrew argues tattoos correlate with promiscuity and outgoingness as pattern recognition; Sky defends tattoos as art. Debate on whether men unfairly disqualify women for choices (tattoos, plastic surgery) while women disqualify men for things out of their control (height, baldness). Scarlet reveals porn industry discourages tattoos/piercings for female performers.

Height Preferences and Dating Standards

Discussion of height preferences among female panelists. Sophia says she would never date a man under 6'0" (she is 5'8.8" — though earlier she said she is 5'0"). Eva says she dates shorter men too. Sky and Sophia both at 5'0". Brandon at 24 is 5-something (exact height not given). Discussion about how Andrew will likely never satisfy the panel's requirements. Connection to women disqualifying men for uncontrollable traits while men get called superficial for caring about choices.

OnlyFans, Sex Work, and Morality Debate

Sky argues OF is not immoral in a capitalist society (comparing it to waitressing). Andrew argues virtual sexual activity for payment is definitionally prostitution. Scarlet has emotional breakdown crying about the porn industry's effect on people and how she ended up deeper in it than intended. Brandon asks if any of them see themselves as positive influences. Peaches argues she does it for love of the game. General debate on supply vs demand in the porn industry, addiction, and whether performers have any responsibility.

Scarlet's Emotional Breakdown

Scarlet becomes emotional discussing how women end up in porn without fully choosing it, referencing being filmed without full consent, doing things to please bosses, and seeing porn addiction hurt real people. She left the set briefly. Andrew questions whether she was on drugs; she denies it and offers a drug test. Donors also questioned whether she was on drugs.

Men Are the Prize vs Women Are the Prize

Brian argues men are the prize because there are far fewer conventionally attractive men than women, and women are harsher judges of male physical attractiveness. Andrew uses the 'adorer and adoree' framework (Dr. Orion Taraban). Most women admit they desire men who could walk away rather than men who are locked in.

Chivalry, Equality, and the Transactional Debate

Andrew debates Peaches extensively on whether chivalry is transactional. His argument: you can't demand equality AND expect chivalrous treatment — pick one. If women demand equal status, men have no incentive to open doors, go down with the ship, pay for dates, or fight wars for them. Peaches argues chivalry should exist without being transactional. Andrew argues that Christian women who submit get the full chivalry package; modern feminist women get nothing extra. Brian connects this to whether OF girls deserve men to pay for their dates.

Body Count Discussion and Hypocrisy Debate

Brian asks everyone their body count going around the table. Sophia: 0 (virgin). Abigail: 0 (virgin). Sky: 5. Peaches: 40-50. Bella: 12. Eva: refused/tourist. Adriana: refused (got up from table to avoid the question). Nina: ~9 (low single digits). Brandon: 0 (virgin). Brian: 'Virgin' (jokes). Extended debate on whether caring about body count is hypocritical, what hypocrisy actually means (Andrew's definition: pretending values you don't have), whether men and women should be held to same standards, and the sexual marketplace value of low-body-count women.

Feminism vs Andrew Wilson — Ethics and Gang Bang World Debate

Peaches and Andrew in extended debate on moral relativism, objective vs relative ethics, whether harm-based ethics can condemn things like ritual abuse of minors in Papua New Guinea (where it's culturally accepted). Andrew argues Christian ethics have an unchanging objective standard while secular harm-reduction ethics can always justify bad behavior. Andrew ultimately insults Peaches directly, calling her and her partner degenerates/cumers. Peaches remains calm. Bella intervenes. Andrew leaves the show around 6:49 to send a raid.

Andrew Wilson's Departure and Raid

Andrew says he has to leave (it's 3am where he is), thanks the panel, says he doesn't take any of it personally, hopes to talk again. Brian thanks him and sends a Crucible raid.

Roast Session and End-of-Show

Brian opens a roast session at $30/TTS. Donors roast individual panelists. Discussion of men vs bear (multiple panelists chose bear), transgender disclosure debate, whether men who date trans women are straight (Brian: no, not straight), cross-talk about Abigail's alleged Luigi Mangione DMs, Adriana's confession about sending money to a guy who slept with another girl on furniture she bought him. Brian asks if any OF girls would quit right now — all say no. Sky reads Green Eggs and Ham. Show wraps with call to tune in Tuesday.

Abortion Rights and Women's Equal Rights Discussion

Adriana's questionnaire item: she disagrees that women have equal rights to men in USA. She cites abortion restrictions in some states. Brian points out men have zero reproductive rights (can't stop a woman from having or keeping a child, yet owe 18+ years child support). Adriana partially concedes and takes back the statement, saying she was mainly thinking about abortion access.

Transcript

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Sophia Summersstereotypes you know wait so you're not a natural blonde and you're calling blonde Stone no I'm saying it's stereo pot St offend

Brian Atlashim I'm so offended super offended super offended okay uh do you think men are insecure if they care about body count that's a

Sophia Summersquestion well I haven't like dealt with men caring about the body count cuz mine's only one so like when I tell them about it they're like how about this what if you had a girlfriend who had

Brian Atlaslike a body count of 20 and like she encountered problems like she she would tell guys and the guys would lose interest do you think that would be insecure of the

Brian Atlasguy no cuz I'd probably not be friends with that girl because she's a [ __ ] oh I mean because she's um is that around hey you know

Sophia Summersthat's the word um yeah just because like I like being friends with people with like this strumpet meant to say strumpet I meant to say strumpet like I like being friends with people with like the same

Sophia Summersvalues as me and like around like the same age as me and I feel like being 18 and having like that many bodies is kind of crazy like that's like one every year wait so but don't you do only fans well yeah but that doesn't mean you have to

Brandon Clarkactiv so what are your values would you say Damen can you open the a little C I don't know you you value keeping your body

Andrew Wilsoncount low yeah for sure very interesting you like to be around people have your same value you don't know the man that I dated for 2 years I literally made him

Sophia Summerswait 7 months until I had sex with him like he was like oh let's do it I was like no you can wait and then I turned 16 and I was like okay I'm 16 now I guess but I wouldn't do it until I

Sophia Summersturned 16 because I was like that's weird I'm 15 that's weird I'm not going to tell my kid I lost at 15 then they will think it's okay to do it at 15 I was like that's too young but I thought 16 was okay but I don't know that

Bella Angelinadoesn't make any sense but okay uh here we'll get everybody else's answers what about you do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count I'm going to be honest on the paper I

Bella Angelinahad said yes it's insecure but if I think about like a guy um if I meet a I I don't really care like I don't that's none of my business I I don't care so I

Bella Angelinadon't think I don't think he he should be nosy enough to be like what's your body count it's like no don't ask you don't think that's a question that guys should ask their significant other it's just like am I going to ask you like I I

Bella Angelinaobviously I don't like a guy that's burnt that's burned out no and I expect him to be like I don't want a girl that's burned out either but I just I'm not going to go and poke at it and be like how many you know Brads have you

Bella Angelinabeen with like just I don't that's very interesting I feel like that is should be a pretty much mandatory I mean it is important but it's just you you you're I don't

Evaknow some some guys I don't know I just what's your answer so they hate absolutely your experience but when they taste and your experience this is the

Evareal through wait what so so saying that other

Evathey hate when you have experience or whatever you can can in but when they taste you experience they like it when

Brandon Clarkoh okay so she's saying she's saying that they say that they value Purity but they actually like when you show it to them yeah but you know what they really like if if you

Evaget the experience from them and then you still become experienc and you hav had to a bunch of other d like that my country yes in my country not like that

Andrew Wilsonmore experience more spicy we are Spain Spain has same values a Catholic country it's been this way forever and ever like what are you talking about yes it does has the same values they still value

Brandon Clarkbody count they still don't like promiscuity like that's pure Cod pure Cod but don't you think the men that are enjoying you having experience are the

Evaones that are looking for the hookup they're not the ones that are looking for a long-term relationship why we have to thinking about topics doesn't exist why I you

Evahave to say oh yes I just I been with one and after when you are in the action you are you have to be with 10,000 that doesn't

Evamatter so doesn't matter in your mind maybe the girl has 10,000 but in the moment do you like it what happened I

Andrew Wilsondon't understand that but yes some men SM like you it's really funny so in other countries I hear this all the time from women they they go well American women will come here and they'll say oh people in my country

Andrew Wilsondon't even care like the men in my country they don't even care about body count and then Europeans will come here and be like oh in my country the men there don't even care about body count it's all hoko I'm just going to like I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust going to point this out it's literally prostitute cope when they say that [ __ ] it's like obviously in America men care about it obviously in Spain they care about it in France they care

Andrew Wilsonabout it in England they care about it but for some reason even even women from the US they go to a European country be like oh yeah men in the United States but they don't care about it at all it's

Andrew Wilsonlike yeah they do they do care about like they they really do I don't I don't know where this comes from like why I don't know why this phenomenon happens I respect your point I respect

Evayour point absolutely but my experience from own experience I don't have to even talking for how many minutes I've been but when they text me oh nice so this is

Andrew Wilsondouble well yeah they like I'm sure that they like having sex with you but that doesn't mean that they would prefer that you hadn't had sex with anybody except them yes but you I'm saying yes but you don't have to show that person you for

Evareal you has a lot experience it depend how you acting what is matter if you have a really good experience to has sex what is matter I don't know well well it matter you will you will you will be

Andrew Wilsonstay with my past you will be a stay with my past or with me I don't know understand oh well let me explain it to you so the thing is is um this is something biologically hardwired so the

Andrew Wilsonthe thing of paternity tests is that they're new this is a brand new technology how in the world would you know if a child was yours before the

Andrew Wilsoninvention of the paternity test well you would know because the woman was chased she was pure she was virgin you were the only one she'd ever been with so if that was the cas they would even test for it

Andrew Wilsonright they would test to make sure the Heyman was intact she was a virgin why because it assured paternity it assured that your child was actually

Bella Angelinayours the the thing is is like now now that may not be the case right now now numer no we not

Bella Angelinawe want to show the

Brian Atlascomment uh all right we take this break here at Tunda though um to uh should did we finish going around the

Sophia Summerstable on the're on her all right here just in time do you think men are insecure if they care about body count I think it depends on the guy if it's for example your situation you your body count is

Brian Atlaszero so it's fair for you to say I care about what his body counts 100 and he doesn't want to date a girl who has a body count higher than 10 then that's just being a hypocrite

Sophia Summersyes yeah I really like how you said that I think it just depends like I I and expect someone to have none why could you break that down for me I

Sophia Summersunderstand that better EXA expect exactly yeah so I think it just depends like you just can't be a hypocrite about it it doesn't make I don't think that's hypocritical how is it not I don't think how is it not hypocritical but how is it

Brian Atlasnot hypocritical like why would I expect you to do something when I couldn't do it myself yeah I'm like well so I guess there's so let's say how about this would it still be hypocritical if the guy he has a high body count but he's no

Sophia Summerslonger promiscuous just when you have a high body count doesn't mean you're priscu I mean if you [ __ ] it doesn't always I mean it can mean that you were

Brian Atlaspromiscuous at some point um but but so okay let's say he is you know he's 30 he ran through a bunch of chicks when he

Brian Atlaswas like in his early 20s past five years he's been in like long-term relationships dates 1% of the time uh and uh do you think it's

Sophia Summershypocritical then yeah why why would it be hypocritical what if a girl has the same amount of bodies as him then it should be fair it shouldn't have to matter so he should have to date her what if she's no longer

Brian Atlaspromiscuous too like they both had a value change that's what I'm trying to say what if they both had the same Val he could still not want to date her because of her past that would hypocritical no it wouldn't be hypocritical hyal cuz they're going

Sophia Summersthrough the same situation but he's expecting wait so hold on so if I hang on I just want to make sure I got this right if my 5-year-old wants to smoke

Andrew Wilsonand says Dad I want to smoke and I say you can't smoke am I a hypocrite yeah yeah that's hypocrisy to you if

Andrew Wilsonyou so if hang on so if a really fat person's on a treadmill and looks over at another really fat person and says hey if you lose weight it would be really good for you that person's a hypocrite yes yeah that's not what hypocrisy

Sophia Summersmeans hypocrisy that's a different situation though we're talking about if we're in the same situation if we're the same age and we have the same body count why should it matter if my body count is the

Andrew Wilsonsame as yours that's not the same as hypocrisy there's nothing hypocritical about exact same situation as you and then saying my preference still even though I'm in the same situation as you

Brian Atlasis that I have a woman with a lower body count that's that's not hypocritical I I got this really easily here really simple my current state of affairs I

Brian Atlashave a penis is it hypocritical for me to not want to date somebody with a

Brian Atlaspenis didn't you say you take BR okay is it hypocritical I my current current status is as somebody

Brian Atlaswho is in possession of a penis whoa that sounds weird you're just going down the am hypocrite going way no but am I a hypocrite for not wanting to

Brian Atlasdate somebody who has a penis biologically that's not how you're wired well men and women are different but even even then it's not hipop it's not

Andrew Wilsonhypocrisy yeah hypocrisy it the the idea of hypocrisy is that you're pretending something so it's pretending to have a value which you don't have so if you actually have a high body count but you

Andrew Wilsonhave a value that having a high body count is bad so therefore other people shouldn't have a high body count you're not being a hypocrite hypocrite can I ask you a

Brian Atlasquestion would this be Andrew let me ask you a question would this be hypocrisy a guy says that he doesn't want to sleep

Brian Atlaswith uh women who have blonde hair but then he sleeps with women who have blonde hair is that would that be hypocrisy yeah because now he's

Andrew Wilsonpretending that he has a value he doesn't have so hypocrisy the idea behind hypocrisy is that you're pretending a value you're pretending to Value forward so okay I wish you would

Andrew Wilsonreally stop speaking Spanish in the back very not it's not telmundo TV ice will be here soon so anyway uh just real quick kidding Jo I'm joking relax I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust trying to say like the cross talk super distracting so anyway uh the the point is is like yeah there has to be some pretense in there right you're pretending some set of values so hypocrisy would be the act of pretending

Andrew Wilsonto have beliefs or qualities that you don't actually have so for instance uh I could be a person who murdered and then say look you shouldn't murder right I do have the value that you shouldn't murder even if I have murdered that's that

TTS/Donation readerthat's not hypocrisy people use it incorrectly all the time okay wait for my oh sorry oo donated $200 thank you so

Brian Atlasmuch your past is part of you body count matters 304 apologists are a key C harder yo cat W's in the chat for cat she's part of our Discord thank you Cat really appreciate it thank for the TTS

Brian Atlashere how about a couple clarifying questions uh let's say there's a woman who is not a professional athlete but she wants to date a guy who is a

Peachesprofessional athlete is she a hypocrite it would be hypocritical if she wasn't in some semblance of physical good shape I guess yeah like some type of physical no

Brian Atlasit wouldn't yeah I don't think that would make her hypocritical if you're valuing a physical attribute like physical fitness but you're not that I said professional athlete so that comes with it's not just your uh physical

Peacheslooks that comes with status comes with money okay well then maybe not that explicitly but I guess more so if we were going to talk about promiscuity as a value like if you value virtue but

Peachesyou're acting in your life promiscuously you can't expect to date someone that is also has that value of virtue if you're not does that make sense you're verbalizing a value but you're acting differently so if you ask

Andrew Wilsonthat person you're going to date to have that value correct what if your value is men have a high body count that's fine but women have a high body count that's not fine that's my value I'm not pretending anything those are

Andrew Wilsonconflicting values if your value is how are they conflicting where where's the conflict well because if you value virtue it should matter for both people well it's not because I value virtue perhaps it's just a preference my preference is that women have a low body

Andrew Wilsoncount don't care if men do I'm not pretending anything there's no pretense there so what since I'm not pretending anything I'm not faking anything I'm telling you exactly what my preference is where's the hypocrisy well

Andrew Wilsonpreferences I would say are different than values so you would have to ask like why do you care about this specific thing well I don't think that absent uh you uh putting all of your values on

Andrew Wilsonlike a de or an unchanging standard then all of your values just come down to preferences anyway so if they're changeable meaning they're changeable if your morals are changeable morals then they're just they just come down to

Peachespreferences right so it's all just what you prefer what you don't prefer so why wouldn't that be her preference she's not promiscuous anymore yeah it wouldn't matter if I

Andrew Wilsonsaid my value structure was I don't care if men have a high body count I do care if women have a high body count that's

Peachesmy actual value what is the hypocrisy so if a woman had a high body count but wanted a virgin man is she not a hypocrite either is that just a

Andrew Wilsonpreference if that's her actual value yes wait how about this um there's no there's no actual hypocrisy there unless you're pretending

Andrew Wilsonsomething so now if you said uh nobody should have a high body count while you were racking your own body count up yeah that would be hypocrisy right because

Andrew Wilsonnow you have Express what the value is and you're pretending obvious it's clear that you're pretending so that would be hypocrisy you see what I'm saying yeah I see what you it's one person versus the general population right yeah what so

Brian Atlaswhat about this um we were talking about like who should pay on a date for example if a woman wants a man to pay for the first date is she a hypocrite if

Brian Atlasshe's not willing to pay for the first date a little bit how would that make a woman hypocrite I think if you're similar to

Peacheslike how he was just saying if you're speaking generally that's a little hypocritical but if she's saying that's how she specifically wants to move in her dating relationship then that's a preference but if you said that as a

Brian Atlasgeneral statement that is hypocritical so if she made a general statement saying men not just for me but men in general should pay for first dates but she's not willing to pay for first dates

Peachesthat makes her a hypocrite yeah if you're saying that like a man should and a woman shouldn't like there's not really a good enough reason okay so men men should not do anything and women should not do anything I don't think earlier you said

Bella Angelinamen should be shiverers oh my God nobody's going to win this [ __ ] argument I'm about I've already won it already it's not about you don't it's it's about you should do it out of

Peachesbecause you're a man no because well no it's not about being a man it's about providing how do I word this because I value treating other people how I would want to be treated

Brian Atlasthat's how I would move through my personal life so it's not about so so there's perfect reciprocity and asymmetry in like everything you do when it comes to like dating well no because I can acknowledge areas in which

PeachesI'm hypocritical and I will just say like this is an area in which I'm being delusional you can either comply to the delusion or not but also would comply to other people's delusions if like the bow thing little delusional but if it makes you happy I

Brian Atlasdon't care no that's I don't think it's delusional I think it's super it's not delusional and I'll tell you why first off a girl who's actually likes you

Peachesshe'll do that [ __ ] instantly like if she really if she actually how's it delusional well because what what why are you doing it why are those other cultures doing it why do most people have people bow there's usually a cultural relevance to it right but

Brian Atlasyou're it because it makes you feel a certain way what do you mean I mean it doesn't I you it makes you feel good so you ask your girlfriend to do that right well I typically I she just get she just

Brian Atlasdoes it you know I don't even need to ask her she just does that [ __ ] but um I don't I don't understand your position really like how's it to Lulu a little

Peachesokay I wouldn't expect the guy to pay for me on the first date just because of how I live my lifestyle but I'm not going to go on a second date with someone who doesn't pay for the first date I don't expect it I don't deserve

Peachesit but oh does that make sense like so you do expect it then if if you want to date me I do kind of expect it you you've literally you've just contradicted yourself okay but I guess the difference is entitlement I I

Peacheswouldn't be mad or like oh my gosh you didn't pay if they didn't pay I would just say Okay this isn't the relationship for me this isn't the relationship Dynamic for me but that would only apply to the first date because then I would I wouldn't mind going 50/50 because it's more about

Brian Atlastaking so you don't expect men to pay for the first aid but that would be the end so you do expect it depends on if there's a lot of other really great qualities that wouldn't be a deal breaker but like you

Brian Atlasyou literally hold on don't walk back your position your position was there would not be a second date if he doesn't pay for the first you literally just said that don't walk back your own position there's traditional things that if a man didn't do that I

Peacheswould not go on a second date with them so you expect them to pay for the date not necessarily date but I not pay for the date cuz I also have a job but like I expect him to hold the door open for me and up hold the door do you hold the

Brian Atlasdoor open for men um well no but oh you're a hypocrite yeah no but I I don't think you're a hypocrite but like using your own framework you would consider yourself a

Brian Atlashypocrite because you that's what I'm saying I am hypocritical in that context how about this how about this you I'm trying to think uh I want my future girlfriend wife whatever well I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to married that's another conversation I want her to uh I just feel like there's different like social hold on hold on I want her to carry our

Brian Atlasfuture child am I a hypocrite for myself being unwilling to this is actually a dog [ __ ] AR am I hypocrite I don't know that's maybe dog [ __ ] that's maybe dog I don't

Brandon Clarkknow it just came to my head this is it's interesting cuz she had she like admits yeah humans can be hypocritical and valuable have to find the people that think look how about this I don't

Brian Atlasthink it makes you hypocritical because I don't think that in order to desire something in a potential partner boyfriend girlfriend whatever it is I

Brian Atlasdon't think in order to desire it you need to possess that trait that doesn't make you hypocritical like there's plenty of there's things that men want

Brian Atlasin women that they don't have and then there's things that uh men want in women that wait did I just did I say twice I get what you're saying but I would yeah but when it comes to values I would

Brian Atlasdisagree I said correct and it's like okay you want um maybe you want a guy who's really hold on do you think most women are attracted to confident men yes

Brian Atlasdo you think women who maybe lack confidence would they be hypocritical for Desiring a man who's confident I don't think that makes a girl H uh hypocritical I just think there are certain things that make men attractive

Brandon Clarkthat women are going to be attracted to whether they possess that trait or not it wouldn't make them a hypocrite I don't think it makes you hypocritical for wanting somebody to pay for the

Peachesfirst date I that's just in I think it is for me but that's because I'm promiscuous but that's just my personal standpoint wait you're when you say

Peachesyou're promiscuous like Des with other men I would say that if I was if I was theoretically in the dating market and I and someone like cared

Peachesabout body count and we like went on a date and that was a big deal for them I don't pay for the date I will pay for the date or I'll pay for half I just want to get out of situ when you say you're promiscuous you've been in a relationship for 12 years are you

Brian Atlassleeping with other men um we sleep with other people together together never apart I've slept with women by myself just me and women by yourself but you'll like you have three SS then more four

Peachessums orgies like swingers are you a swinger um I mean we don't we're always together so yes Abigail stop looking at

Brian Atlasyour tits um I wasn't chill Abigail chill bro I wasn't I'm just crazy I think you're looking no I just you just you're like glue to the screen

Andrew Wilsonlike he's looking at her looking put your whole chest in someone's face you're like why are you looking at that talking about her mic is covering them if you want to be frank are you upset by that yeah tell us how you tell us how

Sophia Summersyou feel for being honest like she totally taking the SP the other room I mean go to like the other switch cams yeah see I can't even stare at my tits in this Frame well they're most likely looking at hers like if we're being real

Peachesum wait so you you do sleep with other men though but with your partner does he sleep with men

Peachestoo um he's do no but he's there when so he watches has his penis ever touched another penis um there's been two penises in one

Peachesgirl's mouth I think that's how so yeah that is no they like both [ __ ] you but they don't [ __ ] each other yeah correct or like I love women so I also

Brian Atlaslike to [ __ ] other you know he it is what it is you know there's a type I going to say um there was down you pass it around no go ahead to end like the

Sophia Summerslittle um I was just going to say like social norms I think was like what you guys are going to say like why do I say like so much I never thought I said that until you brought that up now I'm like overthinking now she's self-conscious

Sophia Summersyeah um I'm just trying to help you that's all we're just helping you out Abby but what's like a good like filler word instead of saying like just skip it how about just don't say filler words

Sophia Summersand just say the actual words okay so what's a good filler chat I know I need um but what I was going to say was maybe I should just skip it no what I

Sophia Summerswas going to say was like social norms is what I no stop what I was going to say it's like I think you guys were just saying like social norms so like you want like someone to like pay for dinners you want someone to like open the like your door

Sophia Summersand then you just want someone with like a low body count BS the clothes does that make sense or is like my brain not braining well there are social norms but there's also a h

Bella Angelinasocial Norm that I don't abide by is that I just by hearing all of you please go to therapy all of us including myself all of us let's go to [ __ ] th hell I went to [ __ ] therapy do do the

Bella Angelinainvestment all of you please I went to therapy and my therapy get us a free trial please after the showday um I went to therapy we all need a little bit you [ __ ] therapy I

Brian Atlasam not paying a liberal money to listen to me complain no that's why he's looking for the girlfriend I went to therapy and my therapy told me I wasn't depressed and I was wasting his time and

Andrew Wilsonthen he like told me I couldn't like take there I will say there of therapy is Red Dead Redemption

Bella Angelinato and all things meditate at the beach or something think life over Andre who here is currently in therapy oh no not

Brian Atlasno more therapy therapy davia davia afford therapy therapy you're in therapy therapy I don't think I therapy any who's who here has ever been in therapy

Sophia Summersjust show F I went once one time yeah yeah I had to and then he told me I didn't need it my mom forced me to go after I got cheated on

Brian Atlasum cuz I wouldn't leave my room for like two weeks damn yeah good times yeah good times all right okay um we have a uh a chat oh actually hold on before we get

Brian Atlasinto this actually I'll let this Devon daon good to see you in the chat man hope your 2025 is uh good W's in the chat for devvon he's an OG it would only be hypocritical if I if I as a high body

Brian Atlascount man who wanted a low body count woman to tell a high body count woman that she couldn't prefer low body count men that's also yes well put day long

Sophia Summersaccurate that's like a tongue if he tells another girl that has body count that she wants a man with low body count that'd be hypocritical you just confused

Brian Atlaseverybody yeah that concept value W's in the chat for D so sorry well how about this going uh going around the table

Brian Atlaslast thing on the body count discussion what's your body count next question why that's just we're talking about body

Brian Atlascount what's your body count here uh you st Abigail Abigail F okay you go zero zero what how what am I supposed to follow up with that the truth okay well

Skylisten the truth will set you free I know okay I have okay five okay yeah that's not bad that's fine good job proud of

Peachesyou uh what about you um more than 40 not more than 50 just men or also like women as well

Bella Angelinaokay D Big D it's still 12 still 12 okay no

EvaEnglish um I am tourista and I I don't even remember you're a tourist yes I am tourist speak

Bella AngelinaEnglish how about this give us a range a what a range like is it 10 to 20 10 to 20 I I mean I don't really just sleep

Bella Angelinawith anyone so I'm very it's 100 right hey no mhm mhm that's what I thought that's Lally me that's me

Brian Atlasfiguring out when we're going to be done with this conversation quatro

Brian AtlasCCO okay that's the extent of my

EvaSpanish knew you were gonna say that oh no I amista I'm sorry so you've

Brian Atlaslike you okay all right oh she got hey she got she was smart she she was a silent one that just dipped out know what about you single digits nine I

Brian Atlascan't say a specific number I might have family watching this so I don't know it's a low person Brandon zero we got to wait until uh what's her name's back but uh I don't know for everybody here multiply it by

Evathree and that's the real number that's the real zero I literally have I liter have list in myone thinking how you lost that spure so good I still thinking of that how you can wait like that she got

Evaup quick she got up quick when it was not qu I where you at Adriana damn uh okay let's get we'll do what

Bella Angelinayour body count Brian I'm a virgin exactly I'm a virgin zero speak English you didn't Clap the girl's cheeks who

Brian Atlasbowed she bowed man yeah you know just a virgin it's very virgin me I figured it's very hypocritical of you

Andrew Wilsonnot to answer that's why he was so excited yeah y yeah anyways uh okay it's not even hypocritical of him not to

Andrew Wilsonanswer because what Brian Jing Brian says hang on but but this with seg actually not hypocritical the value

Andrew Wilsonhere is is that women tend to not give a [ __ ] about men's body count but men do tend to give a [ __ ] about women's body count I think women care about men's body count I don't think that they do oh

Andrew Wilsonmy God I do they do the poing is showing not only is it not what the polling shows but it's a not because it's a non penetrative act from the woman's perspective they seem to care about it far less I think hoes are

Brandon Clarkdrawn to hoes and non hos are drawn to non hooses yeah I would agree with that this is a surprising answer to hear from this panel I would you think they're just capping Brian no I think I think

Brian Atlaseven promiscuous men I I think promiscuous men because they've dealt with so many women and they've had so much experience they're going to be like

Brian Atlasbro dealing with promiscuous women is a is a problem and so as a as whether you're a man or woman you always want to get the best that you can get right and

Andrew Wilsonso the reality is like it just happens to be the case like low body count women they're GNA higher Social Status yeah if you have a if you have a low body count as a woman you have a high higher Social Status if you have a

Brian Atlashigh body count as a man doesn't negatively affect your social status whatsoever yeah disagree also hold on she's over there eating cookies hey give me a

Brian Atlascookie bring all of us cookies girl her her cookie those cookies over is crazy bro she's got a thousand plus cookie count she's going to fall asleep not getting the shapes oh okay cuz the body

Brian Atlascount question was coming that's to go grab so scared shaking uh oh we need uh oh those aren't like the home those aren't home bited those are like the

Brian Atlasyou're faker for emergencies she's she's got an emergency cookie stash uh body count we went nice question everybody that's why you got up right uh everybody already answered do you want to just

Brian Atlasbody count how about this range tell us the

Andrew Wilsonrange is it more than a 100 no no uh you don't sound you didn't look very convinced I'm just just saying no it's really not

Brian Atlasis it give us a range how about that is that fair no tell you what if you answer this question I will give you a $2 bill do you know do you know how much this is worth nothing not in this economy well

Sophia Summersit's worth something you have to give I can't even get a coffee with that uh you can definitely get a coffee with that you can sell you can sell a $2 bill on eBay you're gonna have to give her like an

Brian AtlasiPhone 16 with like Tik Tok download I already have one how about this do you see this card of Robert levendowski when

Brian Atlashe was playing for um uh baroa I don't even know who that is yeah who is that who is that it's like turning down a

Brian Atlascard of Babe Ruth literally literally levandowski okay will will you guys reveal for a $2 bill wow you guys just

Andrew Wilsondon't know the value of a buck I have so many $2 bills at my house I'm good yeah but you don't have that no op particularly

Evavaluable I'm sorry I working with the cash I has a couple Stu of this you I'm working with the cash with

Evathe money that's why I have you steal from the ATMs no no no thanks God thanks God thanks God God bless me with a good

Andrew WilsonB bills in ATMs they don't put $2 bills in ATMs fives T 20s hundreds not $2 bills you don't get she's a little hesitant to

Ninaanswer that body count question you know I will say I think that you know virtuous women they do care about a man's body count it's what I see in the church so you know I I wouldn't say that Blake and statement that you know women

Brian Atlasdon't care about men's body count at all because the body I think she's gone from the table right now I think women care less about it there's definitely women who care about it 100% but I think generally speaking women care less about

Brian Atlasit um and then also I do think it's the case that like probably a promiscuous woman she's not going to have like a satisfying sexual encounter with a man

Brian Atlaswho's sexually inexperienced but a man who's sexually experienced is going to have can have a really good sexual encounter with a woman who's got no experience or minimal sexual experience

Brian Atlasso it's like you can just throwing me under the bus like that Brian what do you mean no it's like a lot of these girls like once they had sex and they're just you know they it's not a big deal to

Brian Atlasthem it's like they probably are going to prioritize like the qual like the not to say that you'd be bad in bed like I think

Brian Atlasthere's going down the hole spiraling look sex is not compli people been [ __ ] forever dude sex is

Brian Atlasnot a complicated procedure it's not a complicated procedure but yeah especially in this day and age with you know porn

Brian Atlashire someone and uh how over sexualized the society is sex coach yeah but but also like also I think like you can ask

Brian Atlasa guy even for a one night stand if a guy has an option between a girl who's a virgin and a girl who has a hundred bodies the dudes are going to pick the

Ninagirl who's a virgin Point Blank period Point Blank period okay good talk good talk guys you know what I what I'm saying is that you know

Ninaa lot of men you know you know a lot of men you know they say they preer prefer like virgin woman low body count woman but does that woman want you does she want a promiscuous man is that what she

Brian Atlaswants and the answer is most of the time no oh I mean look if a woman's a virgin or has low body count and she doesn't want to date a man who's got a past totally fine no problem with that yeah so all men you know you're saying like

Ninaoverall most men care about body count and a you know low body count woman but does she want you and you're not going to get the woman that you want so I think what matters most at the end of

Ninathe day is the person that they are now I don't know if that's even true though well I'm I'm Christian so I believe like once someone repents that you know they're they're made new so they still

Brian Atlasgot bodies well it it depends like are they healed from that like they may still care probably not they they I I you know I've seen deep in the dark deep in the dark recess

Ninaof a born again virgin's mind deep deep in I don't I don't really believe in that term born again virgin like I've never used that oh know whatever what did you what was the term you

Brian Atlasused repent yeah repent yeah she's repentant yeah she's repented many times many times she even confessed no repent is when you turn from it completely like

Brandon Clarkthere's not like I feel bad like it's in there it's in the dark recesses you don't you don't think that do you think that a man would or shouldn't take that into consideration Le he should definitely

Ninatake it into consideration what I'm saying is what matters most are the person that they are now like what do you see in front of you because we could say like yeah I want this this and that and a checklist but when it comes down to it when you meet someone you really

Ninalike you're not going to care that she has like four you know four body can when you want no more than three like you know what I'm saying four four is I I think four is acceptable so what's unacceptable what's

Sophia Summerslike the limit she's five so what what's the limit what's unacceptable what what I whatever your body count is oh no you won't reveal I'm

Bella Angelinaready to bang my head on this [ __ ] table with you guys's conversation like you love it don't you hurry up get it over with uh I mean look it depends on her

Brian Atlasage I don't know how about tell me your body count and I'll tell you if it's too high how about that oh my god wow is a double digit how about that I'm not saying

Ninaanything that's a yes okay it's all good it's okay Adriana that if someone chooses to repent this is just my opinion I don't know if there's any you know scientific evidence to back this up but I do believe that they should be

Ninaabsent for a period of time depending on how many people they slept with so if they slept with like a lot of people then you should be absent for a few years to try to repair that relationship with sex because you can't just go like

Ninabanging and then be like oh I repent and then like you know suddenly you know your C but like you need time to repair that relationship with sex and yourself and spiritually she makes a point that's

Brian AtlasI think to your point like okay we got we got um we got Brandon here and it's like a girl could have done that she slept with 20 dudes but she like repented she has she's been like abstinent for three years or

Brian Atlaswhatever I don't think there's anything wrong with Brandon saying cool like I I don't think there's any sort of uh what's the term for it like both things can be true like can

Brian Atlasshe be can she be forgiven can she be a Christian absolutely doesn't mean that he is obligated to date her no of course not and I think but he can use that as a metric to be like I don't want to date

Ninayou because of this no of course but what I'm saying is when you really like someone you're going to look at the person who they are now compared so like we we say we could say like oh this matters so much like yeah he may still

Ninachoose to say you know I don't want to date a girl that you know slip with 20 d dudes even if that is in her past and if she repented but if he really liked her he would I'm not saying for you but like just in general well yeah sure I mean so

Brian Atlasage her men yeah men can make a determination like oh okay like she's a great woman and like in the um in the

Brian Atlascalculus or whatever the calculus of all the factors then yeah I'm going to accept it I guess but yeah and obviously

Ninathere's like you know a metric system you like let's see what hell but how about this let's use like an extrem like she has a body count

Brian Atlasof 100 it's over no I get 9 it's cool no no no still if it's 99 that's it's still over now can she still get a guy sure

Brian Atlasbut what I'm saying like at least for for my perspective no matter how cool she is no matter how hot she is no matter like if she slept with a hundred

Brian Atlasmen I don't care like all these other good factors it's done it's a w any girl going to tell you two men and you're going to you're started a relationship online okay so this is my thing you

Bella Angelinagoing to know you're never going to know oh so you guys are advocating for women to lie to you're saying if you hear a girl that slept with 100 men she's going to tell you she's only slept with two and you're going to be like okay it's

Ninaonly two and well that first off terrible way to start that's why I'm saying what matters most is the person that is in front of you like they could be lying about and there's no way are you going to put like men always

Brian Atlaslike what is it they always like times it by two how many men you slept with on your on your arm I'm going say this I'm going to say this most women who have slept with a hundred men the way that they're

Brian Atlasmoving in other ways in their life you're going to you're going to know she doesn't have to tell you a girl who slept with 100 men it's going to be think that we let we'll let you

Evalive all over he's completely sad he's complet s we have to thinking about how many men has one woman break I have a question one second

Brian Atlasone second one sec I'll let you ask it one sec so many problems in the world would be fixed and I I'll give credit to Andrew Tate on this one you guys I no if women had their body count written on

Brian Atlastheir forehead all all the problems of the world would be fixed everything would be fixed there would be families and children again women would be conducting themselves properly men would

Peachesbe conducting themselves properly it would fix everything wait do men also have their number on their forehead can I ask my question does everyone have their number on their forehead just a women just a wom hypocritical Fair

Sophia Summersthat's not hypocritical wait so then who would you guys if the women want to keep it like at zero who would you guys sleep with I guess we that you have to marry the first girl

Brian Atlasif this look if if all women collectively were like we're not sleeping with men until we're married y'all would be courted like women and y'all would all be

Sophia Summerswives that's a big commitment without okay can I ask my question got to test drive the car before I forget sure um so before we started asking this question before I got up and left the room during

Sophia SummersThe Question just looking escape to escape looking at me how many guys do you think I would have slept with are we counting BJs because the BJ count is higher

Brandon Clarkwhat fine we can count it if you want to count it wait does that count with him though what yes for sure didn't we talk about this have you received oral sex sir no if it

Evastart nothing in the B either I was just kidding the poophole loophole is not that's that's why that's

Evawhy for you it's really high to find in someone because you already has you manipulations and that's why it's really

Evahard for you finding something because your level is really high wait so can we answer the question he's going to be fine what are you talking

Brian Atlasabout it is he he wants he wants a Christian virgin uh that gives F woman he'll find

Sophia Summershim that only gives him giv blow all he wants nothing else nothing lasts nothing more he's laughing cuz he knows it's true that's guilt right there sir wait what are you say you're saying I've I've

Brandon Clarkgotten a BJ before that's all you do that's the only thing you I said if it starts with sex I haven't done it that is in my opinion actually in in one of

Brandon Clarkmy previous relationships I was quite upset with my significant other because they because I had asked them what their

Brandon Clarkbody count was left that number out of of having done other things instead of just and that was something that I consider I considered that a straightup lie well for me

Sophia Summerspersonally to be honest I see it personally I've never only given someone a blow job if I'm having sex with them if I give them a blow job we're having sex exactly it's a package there's no

Sophia Summersthere's a package no we go if we do it we're going all the way [ __ ] goes down [ __ ] goes [ __ ] is going down you can't make him

Brian Atlasfinish just hold on here what if you gave a guy that and he was like I'm good I wouldn't I haven't you

Sophia Summerswould what do you mean like I I'd never given someone a [ __ ] and then like no but what if he not had sex what if he was like I'm okay but I won't I won't give him a [ __ ] until we have sex

Sophia Summersfirst oh the sex first it's the sex first the sex first all right I need to be pleasured first that's fair that's fair okay fair deal all right I think

Brandon ClarkSociety in general should give abstinence a shot what your guess I I agree with her I do think that abstinence is the way to go I mean both

Brandon Clarkon the male side sorry Brian and the female side things I I a big proponent of that and this is just like my hot take but I think women should be

Brian Atlasabstinent until they meet me S until they meet what until they meet me that's like Fair can I hypocrite what I was going to say now I thought you

Brian Atlasokay I don't know Adriana um the evasiveness has me a bit you know like concerned um let me ask a couple questions have

Sophia Summersyou had no question have you ever had a three song no no uh have you ever had a one night stand no not intentionally an you had an

Sophia Summersaccidental no like I thought we were more than that and then never heard from him again after damn good times good times great times the best of times have

Sophia Summersyou ever no you have tattoos I have one little baby one but it's like it's like a meaningful one what sky what did that have to do listen

Sophia Summerslisten b off don't judge by tattoos just looking at me right now if you saw me walking down the side of the tree and you saw me and you looked at me what do you think my body count and we've also had the convers we've never had a conversation and when the body count

Sophia Summersquestion came around you got up before the body before the body count question came around like a solid 18 really is that

Sophia Summerstoo low I knew it no that's hot no because I've had people tell me before like oh have you even like ever done it before people think I'm a virgin people

Sophia Summersfully think I'm a virgin okay now I'm curious what it is yeah what do you about I'm not saying anything I'm not saying anything it's more

Sophia Summersthan what do I look like mine would be can't see you Abigail 100 are we for real yeah yeah you're too pretty did

Sophia Summersyou I'm just say to pretty not talking to you if I just look at you it's just cuz you're too pretty well I think the prettier the girl the lower the body count typically

Brian Atlasit's like I feel like a well Oho you're saying I'm ugly no not at all like I didn't say

Brian Atlasthat I no I feel like it's like the average girl now you're flushing I feel like it's an average girl who's like kind of like insecure and she's going to like [ __ ] a bunch of dudes to like feel better about

Brian Atlasherself am I wrong you think you think girls have sex because they're insec huh you think girls have sex cuz they're insecure yeah a lot of women have sex

Brian Atlasfor validation so why do men have sex to because they want sex what if you just

Bella Angelinalike those females do ex you do know that there's men that like invite girls out to dinner they like flaunt that they're going to pay for everything because they want sex at the end of the night like there's a lot of men that do

Bella Angelinathat just to trap girls and I think deep down every tell me that's not what it tell me that's not what it is there's guys that will like take you to the most

Bella Angelinaexpensive restaurant that will do uh the most to get girls to come out and you know get into that mood and they'll get them drunk and then they start you know they fall for it there's there's guys

Bella Angelinathat are like that and you know what I've been also to uh I've been to like gay bars straight men go to gay bars to pick up chicks mhm I've experienced it straight man go

Bella Angelinato I I've been hit I I go to a lot of like gay bars and and okay um it it's um normal to come across straight men that go to these bars like freaking creeps

Bella Angelinaand pray on these drunk girls and they end up taking some home what does that have to do with the no no no I'm just I'm just saying like I mean it got a little off topic but there's guys there

Bella Angelinayeah there's guys that will that go out to no aside from that aside from that what what my point was at first was that there's guys that will take girls out on dates to very expensive places because

Sophia Summersthey want the girl to give up make the girl fall in love and make her feel all special and then she's like oh my God he's he gets laid he gets laid and that was his only purpose this is why everyone's got to wait till marriage so

Bella Angelinayou know Ian that's the You Take by sleeping around though no but I'm saying there's guys that just do that and they invite every other girl I'm not saying specifically one it's just

Bella Angelinathere's consistently it's like every other night that's what I'm targeting right now well I mean look I'll say this I think me personally that will pretend to be like you know Prince Charming and

Bella Angelinastuff and but you in town like you know mutual people so you'd probably also know that he's like no there's just guy I'm just saying in general I'm not saying like oh I'm dating no no I'm not saying you in particular but General there's guys there's guys that have that

Bella Angelinastrategy is what I'm saying yeah I don't deny that I don't deny that men do so I I'm just saying no I want to men because I I'm you guys are talking about a bunch of nonsense so I'm going to bring that

Brian Atlasup as well might as well say it might as well mention it it happened okay fine I I'll just address it um so is your point like men do all this stuff to try like maybe they lie not all men there's men

Brian Atlasthat use that as a specific strategy to get lead okay and so you're saying they're like misleading the woman like they're telling the the woman that she that has longm interest then she sleeps with him and then he's gone he's gone or

Bella Angelinahe'll come back whenever he's ready to you know that's wrong I don't think men should lie about that and then also or they rely on alcohol to get girls to [ __ ] them yeah yeah speaking from experience yes

Bella Angelinaabsolutely well I mean don't you maybe don't drink I personally don't drink no it's not even about drink but there's men out there which are F boys for the most part that strategically do this

Brandon Clarkkind of stuff and it's wrong but don't you think that the correct answer to fix that would be to stay abstinent I I don't right now I'm not dating because I already know that I don't trust guys

Ninawhen it comes to like going out can I just say something um too busy so I mentioned before like I'm abstinent right and part of the reason you know a lot of people when they say they're like you know celibate or whatever they just say that they're it's like a spiritual

Ninajourney and like whatever whatever like my reasons for going abstinent were because I realized how much drama casual sex brings for example like tions yeah like you know feeling like you know

Ninapossibly being used or like feeling stupid for sleeping with someone or you know pregnancy scares or you know feelings of jealousy confusion like you're doing this very phys it comes with emotions yeah so that's why that's

Ninawhy I decided like the sexual experience is not worth all those risks I've taken I've taken my breaks worth that much like most of the time like are they like

Ninadon't look at me like that so yeah like uh-huh I became so just like a little background for me like I first became absin in like 5 years ago but at first it was for non-religious reasons like

Ninathe the you know reasons I just stated no sometimes you just need a break you just need away from all that drama and then I became Christian and then I you know then I finally had this Firm Foundation behind my beliefs like okay

Ninait's not just about the drama or whatever but it's also like I'm honoring God with my body cuz you know wait didn't you say you had a hookup like a month ago I didn't hook up no that was no it was just a fling I didn't sleep

Ninawith him okay oh a fling coffee dates Christian fling oh just because someone has a fling doesn't mean they slept with person mean when I think of a fling yeah I I know because we're sexual okay I'll

Ninajust address the thing I do have to move things on but I'll just address oh you have more no yeah I just wanted to say you know go ahead next question I mean go ahead you can no you can finish your

Ninathought go ahead no yeah so as I was saying that you know then I had a firm foundation behind my beliefs you know there was times where I felt like I could have folded like in these certain flings but

Ninanow that I have God like behind me and those values it's it's a lot easier to stick to it and not fall into temptation so I do believe like everyone here should give abstinence a shot if you're not and you'll see how much peace it

Ninabrings to your life I love how you think I do love how you talk and how you think but it doesn't it just has to be for religious reason go to

Evamaybe stop in Barcelona all right what you go to Japan and maybe you stop in Barcelona I have ready to house there are you like trying to [ __ ] me or no no

Bella Angelinano no she's going to first wash your clothes and then she's going your laundry I has to convince to you take take her to your laundry room go show her the laundry you got upstairs I feel

Bella AngelinaI feel like there's a language bear go go go show her the laundry you haven't done in 3 months up upstairs I do my laundry weekly okay you have go ahead yeah I just have one question I want to ask the panel but you know a lot of

Ninagirls it's not just about the drama but they also say like oh he was bad in bed he only lasted two minutes so it's like you're risking all these things for like not even like a seual experence 10 seconds of your life exactly like what

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