ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! 62yr Old vs Andrew/Rachel! He Brought His MOM On A Date?! | Dating Talk #239

Date: 2025-04-21

Duration: 8h 23m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Healthcare)>

AAmanda (Hair)>

AAndrew Wilson >

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Lauren (Healthcare)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Chloe Yummy(guest)

SPEAKER_05Amanda (Hair)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Evelyn(guest)

SPEAKER_13Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Rachel Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe's age lie exposed: said 18, actually 19

ControversyALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE: Holly (62) vs Andrew Wilson heated confrontation over gender politics

Key MomentRachel Wilson calls in to confront Holly directly

Key MomentChloe accidentally reveals contractual OnlyFans obligation preventing her from quitting

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Eva, Chloe, Teresa, Lauren, Holly (62), Jade, Amanda, Evelyn.

Muhammad Ali Clip Reaction

Panel watches/reacts to Ali clip on race and women.

OnlyFans Legitimacy

Chloe defends OF. Andrew criticizes.

Self-Rating Looks

Guests rate themselves 1-10.

Chloe Age Lie Revealed

Actually 19, said 18.

Holly vs Andrew Confrontation

Title moment: Holly (62) and Andrew heated exchange over gender politics. Rachel Wilson calls in.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_03you ask like did you make the first move or did they? I don't know because I don't just date. I have to like How did you meet them? Just friends. Just a Okay. Did they ask for your number or did you ask for theirs? We didn't ask for anyone's number. Just mutual

SPEAKER_03meeting. Well, I mean eventually one of you got each other. You got his number. We didn't ask for a date. We kind of like Oh, sorry. We didn't I didn't ask. I would say I was the one

SPEAKER_03who like initiated relationship. I told him like not the relationship. Oh, the dating. Dating is a relationship to me. Well, are you the first date? Are you in a relationship? No. Okay. We're I never

SPEAKER_03just go on dates. I have friendships and then if I trust I and if friendship going out, okay, that's I pay for my meal, he pays for his. I didn't my boyfriend didn't pay for my meal unless

Brian Atlasuntil we were like official official. And when we were official official. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry. But so who initiated? Somebody has to typically initiate.

SPEAKER_03Typically the date they I would say I was the one who initiated um relationship like dating dating and then we were official. And then when we were official of course he

SPEAKER_03would like pay for me cuz he and I'm in that cuz I don't let people pay for me. I'm like a, you know, I don't like to owe people things unless we have a solid relationship, you know. So, we were

SPEAKER_03officially dating boyfriend, girlfriend, and yeah, by that standard, he's already like taken care of me to an extent. What about you of the guys you've dated? Did you ask them out or did they ask you

Chloe Yummyout? Um, I've never asked um a guy out on the first date. Um, and they've always paid for me. Okay. Guys always paid. All right. What about you? Oh, well, you said you've never asked a guy out.

Holly (62)I I asked my homeboys to go out and No, no, I'm saying like first date. First date. Yeah. No. Yeah. Never. Ollie. This one just happened. I I didn't even

Holly (62)realize I was asking him out. Uh I said uh because of his circumstance that he had cancer, I said, "You know what? We should go out and just celebrate the season." But you said you're a season

Brian Atlasdater. Of all the first dates you've ever been on, uh, n 90% of the time the guy asked you out, 100% of the time he was the one who asked you out. What What's the breakdown? I'm just talking about this last

Holly (62)instance because I don't I don't I don't ask men out. Yeah. No, that's what I'm looking for. I'm just saying but he thought that I asked him out cuz he sat there at dinner going telling everybody, "She asked me out. She asked me out."

Brian AtlasAnd I've looked at them like like of if you just look at all the men you you've dated whatever over the majority of the time overwhelmingly they asked you out. Correct. Okay. Yeah. Every single time

Holly (62)almost. I'm that was the only for instance that happened that I I said we should go do something. I wasn't even looking at it as a date. Okay. What about you? Yes. Yes. What? Oh, sorry.

Brian AtlasYes. They've asked me out or they've been the one to ask me out. You've never asked a guy out? Mm-m. Ever paid for a first date? No. Okay. What about you? I've never asked a guy out on a first date. Never never asked a guy out or

Evelynnever. You've never paid on the first date? No. Okay. What about you? Um I ask many times guys to go out and they ask me to. And I also pay the first date. I think it's 50/50 all the time. Even when

Evelynyou already have a family or something serious. So I think it's I I was the only one who didn't mark that one. I I think Okay. Oh, were you? Maybe. Yeah, I didn't. Oh, wow. Men doesn't pay for me the first No, you did. Oh, no. Sorry.

Holly (62)You're right. You're right. I got I got my numbers mixed up. Uh but I'm What's the re Why should men pay? Why? Because they're the pursuers. They're the ones that are doing the chivalry. They're the

Holly (62)one They're the ones trying to win your heart. They're the ones that give the ring. It's want to get married. Yeah. But so just show of hands from all the women. Should men pay for first dates?

Brian AtlasProbably. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. only one here. But you answered why why should men pay for first dates? Just quick

SPEAKER_03answer. Why? Oh. Oh, no. I I was just curious what you thought. I I'll weigh in, but I just want to get your answers first. Why should men pay? Oh, I just said if they the one they're the one pursuing, then yeah, they ask her. But

Chloe Yummylike chivalry, being traditional. Okay. Yeah. Why should men pay? I love being submissive and I like like dominant men. So I think guys that take care of you

Chloe Yummyfinancially are very dominant and manly. Okay. What about you? Into the chivalry. Oh, chivalry. Traditional. Yeah. Chivalry. Traditional. Okay. Yeah. Tradition. Tradition. I want my man to

Holly (62)take the lead. Yeah. To take the lead on things. Take the lead. Chivalry. Traditional. The point that I wanted to make really quick is even though he was

Brian Atlassaying that I asked him out, he's the one that paid. So even if You did. He paid. Um, so here's my confusion. I

Brian Atlasheard tradition, chivalry, nice thing to do, wanting him to take the lead. Why is it okay? Like, do you guys think it's sexist to say this that men should pay

SPEAKER_03for dates? I would say, yeah, but Oh, yes, it is. Yeah. I I intrusively think these things and I'm like, damn. Like, that's pretty sexist. I think to say should is like putting rules on things and it's like just like how should is

Amanda (Hair)like anyone could do whatever they want. But do I prefer that? Yes. Yeah. But that's a do whatever you want. But do I prefer that? Yes. I'm not putting rules on society. But baked into that is a

Brian Atlasshould. It's a should expectation of the person that I'm dating is that. Yes. Right. But what somebody else does is their business. Yeah. Sure. That's totally fine. We can acknowledge that there are women out there who are fine

Brian Atlaspaying 50/50 on a first date. Don't dispute it at all. But baked into it is a should. So then, but y'all don't really like it when we start saying

Brian Atlaswomen should do X. Really? Women Women should be women should dress modestly. I I agree to concerns. You don't agree? I just think that there's But hold on. So she was talking you're talking about

Brian Atlaschivalry and tradition, you had when Muhammad Ali was saying women should not uh should dress modestly. Basically, you had a really big reaction to that. He was saying women

Brian Atlasshould dress this way. They shouldn't have all their parts out. You had a bit. You said that was controlling,

Brian Atlasinsecure. But so then why should I guess why is it okay for women to say men should do this, men should do the XYZ? It's just not everyone just has

SPEAKER_03preferences. It's just I'm I haven't asked a guy out on the first date. If you're asking me out, like take me out then. Pay for it because you're the one asking me. You don't ask though. If

Brian Atlasthere's a if there's a dynamic in the world where women just refuse to ask men, which is the case, women don't ask men, you're in a very privileged position, you can just pick among the

Brian Atlasmen who choose you, who well, it's not that they choose you, they make themselves available to be picked. So, it's kind of like to me it's just very confusing. I

Brian Atlasthink it's just some things are just how it works. Just nothing prevent is anything prevent any of you from sliding into a guy's DM who you like? Anything preventing you from going up to a man being like%, hey, I think you're attractive. You want to I find them

SPEAKER_03attractive. I don't think I've ever just I'm minding my own business, working, doing me, and if love comes my way, it comes my way type. I don't really go pursue things cuz it's just not what I want. I think men want to pursue love. Men want to pursue love and they will

Brian Atlasask guys out. But you got to understand, you say, "Well, oh, it's just, you know, if men you want your dates paid for, just wait until the girl asks you." Oh, no. That's men can't wait. Like, if if

Brian Atlasmen did what y'all did, which is just The thing is, we have multiple We have multiple women here who are in their 30s who have never even asked a guy out. They've always been asked out. That's a

Brian Atlasthat's a long time to have that amount of experience and never once thought hm the thing that men have to do all the time the burden that men have all the time maybe I could do that once yeah but

Amanda (Hair)never because men are men are hunters we would hunters if we just okay so what are women if we just show up you know and and like if it's so easy you guys

Amanda (Hair)lose interest and that also is just like chemical also do believe that the way a relationship starts is how it continues. And if I was initiating something with someone, then that's going to be how the

Brian Atlasrelationship continues. And I don't want that. Uh, you don't want that. No. Okay. So, go ahead. Um, I will say this, like once I've fallen for someone, I'm happy

Brian Atlasto take them out on a nice date and plan something. Oh, yeah. Sure. women are well established into the relationship and the guy's already paid for the first few dates. I don't dispute that women open up a little bit and they'll, you

Brian Atlasknow, maybe they'll take the guy out. Yeah, I'm talking about initially. What do women do? Hold on, hold on. What do women do during the initial stages to

Brian Atlasmove things forward? They flirt. What do women do during the initial stages to move things forward? I get to do. What do you want us to do?

Amanda (Hair)Like, you don't do anything. Y'all do y'all y'all don't We provide emotional support. We like make really on the first date. Yes. Men look good when you're on a date with a good looking woman. Don't give a [ __ ] You guys give

Brian Atlasa [ __ ] about what your friends think of you. No, we don't. Yes, you do. No, we don't. Let me ask you a question. If you could be dealing, you're dealing with a guy, do you think he'd rather go out to dinner with you or just have you come

Brian Atlasover immediately and [ __ ] if we're dating? It depends. situation. You You meet the guy and he's like, "Do you think he'd rather go out on a nice date

Brian Atlaswith you and be seen and oh my god, all these other people that I'll never see again, they see me with this hot chick?" Or would they prefer for you to just come over, nobody sees it, and then you

Amanda (Hair)have sex with them? If he just wants to have sex, then it's going to just be that. But not necessarily. He could want a relationship relationship. Then he's going to want to go through that process to get to know someone. No, not really.

Chloe YummyIt depends on what they want. Can I say all men? Yeah. What's up? Um, I mean, I think I disagree with your opinion because like I said, like when we first

Chloe Yummystarted, like that guy from Dubai, like he paid me seven grand to just like make an appearance. And I think that that's different though. How is that different?

Brian AtlasHe wanted to be seen. I mean, when you're dealing with that level of wealth, uh that's not like genuine uh that's not genuine dating dynamics.

Chloe YummyAnd it wasn't a date. Like you literally just wanted to go to the club with me. Yeah, that's something entirely different. Oh, okay. That's something entirely different. And some men enjoy

Amanda (Hair)the company of women like enjoy like having a conversation with us and like getting to know there are men who enjoy that like to say like oh just come over and have sex it's like yeah that's part of it but like I know men that want to

Brian Atlasgo slower in that sense because they enjoy getting to know women. So it just depends on who it is. Yeah that's true. But this idea that men want to go on a date with you so that they can be seen

Amanda (Hair)with you, that's not that's not maybe that's how y'all y'all think. I think they like the comparison like if someone's masculine and you're with someone who's feminine and like they dress nice and like like the like the

Brian Atlasthe way it compliments a man's masculinity. There are men who I don't give a [ __ ] Hold on. I don't give a [ __ ] what some strangers who I'm never going to see again think about me. Oh, I'm in some [ __ ] restaurant. There's

Brian Atlasa bunch of other people at the restaurant and they m first off, they don't give a [ __ ] about who I'm on it. They don't care. Like, have you ever been to a restaurant and you're like, "Wow, I'm really invested in that person sitting all the way over there and

Brian Atlasthey're really has that ever crossed your mind." There's couples that'll catch your eye. You feel like they look nice. Okay, sure. You could acknowledge that somebody is good-looking or attractive, but are you particularly invested in that other person? So why is

Brian Atlasa per I don't care what other people think. They don't care. They don't care about me either. Why should I care? There are people there are men who care.

SPEAKER_03Why do you want a date or not want a date? Huh? Why do you go on a date? Or do you just not want to go on a date? Your last date. I feel like at the end of the day, people are just trying to get laid and everyone has different

SPEAKER_03standards of what they would like before they get laid. Sure. But again, I'm just confus. Okay, look. You said chivalry. Should should women dress

Brian Atlasmodestly? I They can dress however they want. Okay. So, men shouldn't pay for first dates. But I kind of just want to know like and you should go 50/50 on all the

Brian Atlasrest of your first dates. You should insist. No, no, no. I want to pay for this and not just an empty gesture. You should insist that you go 50/50. Sure. You like it. I love it. Yeah, but you're

SPEAKER_03not going to do it. You're not going to do it. What's up? Oh, I'm just curious like when you take girls out on a date, is it like you are you guys get to know each other first already or is it like a stranger on a date? And do you like want

Brian Atlasto pay or do you not want to pay? Like how do you Yeah, sure. I mean, I've had different periods of my life. I don't think right my this specific period right now would be a good example but uh like perhaps prior to when I started

Brian Atlasthis podcast and I was meeting people on dating apps or meeting people organically um I would uh it was yeah I think a guy knows like you would probably know like

Brian Atlaswhen like oh I'm not I'm not a great example though because my previous so now if I'm dating a girl I'm paying why is that it's just the mo one it's the most optimal thing and it's just that's the dynamic that Men with money don't worry about these things. Not just that,

Brian Atlasbut it's just like if you don't like a girl, you won't pay. But before, but before I had a principle where I was like, okay, I'm meeting these girls on dating apps. Mhm. I'll know who they're

Brian Atlasdealing with. So my new standard is I'm only going to be extending this if she's only dealing with me. Yeah. I'm not paying a first date for a girl who's

Brian Atlasgot a sneaky link and she's talking to 10 different dudes. But I've been, for example, I was on a date. This was a couple years ago. Date with this girl, met her on a dating app. She tells me on

Brian Atlasthe date, I'm I'm I got five dates planned. Yeah. Then you know, like, okay, I'm not Why the [ __ ] am I going to pay for a girl that's dealing with other dudes and [ __ ] other dudes? It's a wrap. I don't want to deal with women

Brian Atlaswho are dealing with other men. If I know that you're just dealing with me, Yeah. then I'm prepared to step into my role. But you want to, right? But I don't even want to I don't want to date. I don't want anything to do. Like I You

Brian Atlasguys might think I'm crazy. She could be the hottest girl ever. Yeah, you guys might call me crazy. She could be the hottest girl ever. If she's sexually involved with another man, I don't want I don't want anything. She could be

Brian Atlasbegging to have sex with me. She could be begging to have sex with me. The hottest girl in the world. If she [ __ ] a guy last night, don't want anything to do with her. That's valid. You have selfrespect for yourself. Don't want anything. I want Even a guy has a choice

SPEAKER_03is the thing. Like if you don't have to pay, of course, maybe a girl would be like, "Oh my god, you have to pay." But you know the conversation, the flow, whether or not you're going to pay for a woman based on how she's acting and who

SPEAKER_03she is, you don't have to pay. But then you get to decline, but it's just if you genuinely like a girl, you would want to pay. That's just a gesture for you, right? Yeah. Sure. Just because that's just that's all because if guys are

Brian Atlaspaying for girls that are doing that, it's like Yeah. I think it's the most optimum thing for men to do. Yeah. But if we're having a conversation, if we're

Brian Atlasjust like looking at it with a bird's eye view, um, women aren't traditional. Women don't uphold any of their own duties when it comes to chivalry. So,

Brian Atlaswe're not expecting women to be chivalous towards us. But should you have a low body count? Should you dress modestly? Should you be traditional? Yes. So, y'all are modern women, but you

Chloe Yummywant men to be traditional. We have a sex worker here. She says she wants guys. She's submissive. That's great. Cook, clean, whatever. I don't really like the label sex worker. It makes me sound like a prostitute, which I do not

Brian Atlasthink I am. Only fans girls are sex workers. I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying that you're on the street offering up [ __ ] for $50. To me, like sex worker is really vulgar, but it is

Brian Atlaswithin the umbrella of sex work. I'm not calling you a prostitute. I'm calling you a sex worker. Okay. Well, your other guy called me prostitute. Well, he has a different position on this. Um, but

Brian Atlaslook, how can I say just one thing? How can it be like y'all want men to be traditional? Where are the traditional women? But you are dating these women

Holly (62)who don't have I'm not asking where they're at church. They're at um at Charlie Kirk meetings. I'm talking there's a thousand classy younger women.

Brian AtlasNo, no, no, no. Hold on. I'm not literally It was a It was a rhetorical question. I'm not literally asking where are they geographically located. I'm

Brian Atlassaying you have liberal the most liberal progressive feminist women who still demand men act traditionally pay for

Brian Atlasdates do all this stuff and y'all are modern women. Why should men be traditional when y'all are modern? Explain it. Um I would say I'm pretty traditional and therefore but what about

Brian Atlasher? So she's posting thirst straps on Instagram. She dresses revealing. I'm not going to make a criticism of that, but it is what it is. That is not traditional. Yeah. And it's not traditional. Then why should you demand

SPEAKER_03traditional treatment from men? Um I mean she maybe she doesn't demand it, but look that she just has men who want to do that for her. she manifested. And we're not asking like men to do it, but

Brian Atlasit's just like, you know, if she like So, I agree with you that women because men do what works. And so, paying for your meal, that's better than going

Brian Atlas50/50. Like, that's just optically better. I agree with you that men still do this [ __ ] Men will still be traditional because women respond to it and women still want it despite all the

Brian Atlasfeminist programming that all of y'all have received, all the feminism, all the liberalism, all all of modernity. You want to live your you want to be the most modern women possible, but you

Brian Atlasstill because it's in it's the natural order of things. You like men to be traditional. You like it. You respond to it. Even on an intellectual level, you're like, "Nah, I don't care about that [ __ ] If a guy pays, if a guy's a

Brian Atlasleader, if a guy's assertive, if he's a leader, all these all these positive traditional masculine characteristics, you still want it, but you're not holding up your ends of the bargain. Now, you still get it because men are

Brian Atlaspressed for [ __ ] Men still want to [ __ ] you, but when it comes to commitment and relationship, like relationship, long-term commitment, men start to like just keep you around for sex. Yeah. And I agree that women

Brian Atlasshould if they want those things then they should be but what they but they're not I I get men still give it to you. You could be we've had literal prostitutes on the show. They're like I want men to pay for a reason. Like you

Brian Atlasselect people with only fans. You select Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Who? Raise your hand if you have only fans here. Oh yeah, of course not. But you select Raise your hand if you have only fans here. So 1 2 3 4 5 6 seven women who

SPEAKER_03don't have Only Fans. We got only one. So, how would it be me selecting? The majority of our guests don't have Only Fans. Yeah, that's valid. But I'm just saying like you do select a couple just to have them on and then you guys do

SPEAKER_03like to talk about it and you that was one of the first conversations. Make an actual argument though. What does it It's not an argument. It's just like just an observation. It is something easy to talk about and easy and something that should be talked about

Amanda (Hair)cuz it's a hot topic. Well, she if she's in the minority of the group of us that's here for what she does for work and this example that you're giving is using someone who isn't only fans then like that kind of goes against what it

Brian Atlasis you're trying to do anyway. Well, so I'll address that. Let me address that. So, categorically that's not what I'm doing at all. I'm just pointing to the most obvious. I think the one of the least

Brian Atlastraditional things a woman could do is sex work. Mhm. If you're a prostitute and you want to go marry some super trad guy, maybe you get it, maybe you don't.

Brian AtlasI don't think that's a fair deal, though. But my greater point is is that, and by the way, the criticisms, if you miss some of them, it's not just women who do Only Fans, and I acknowledge

Brian Atlasthere's only one woman who does Only Fans here. It was she dresses revealing. Is anybody here a virgin? No.

Holly (62)So, it's like whim, how about this? Should women be virgins? I was a virgin for a long time. I held the record. I

SPEAKER_03had friends sleeping around in junior high. What the [ __ ] Truly. Uh yeah, I know that that that happens. Um I think it's better than sleeping around unless you like really like somebody and like love them. But it's

SPEAKER_03just, you know, everyone's just different. you got like so much things on the internet influencing young people who are easily influenced. Like I don't I don't know how you got into Only Fans and you want to quit, but you see the money like you think it's easy. Like

Chloe Yummyit's just I really want I'm sorry. Go ahead. I really wanted to say that you know you're kind of saying like you can be either traditional or um modern and I

Chloe Yummythink that you can do both. I mean like traditional. It's like all of us should be virgins because we're not married. So it's like you guys are all modern in a

Brian Atlassense. Maybe you have like I think it's a mixture because I'm not fully like modern. I definitely have like I um I don't know. That's No. So look, I'll I'll agree with you there. So I don't

Brian Atlasthink it's a it's 100% black or white when it comes to being traditional. Uh, so like I'm not 100% all the way on the traditional side myself, right? But I

Brian Atlasthink it's more so to do with women's entitlement and expectations of men's behavior. So you want your cake and to

Brian Atlaseat it too. It's like you dress revealing, promiscuous, involved in sex work.

Brian Atlasyou are boss babes, career oriented, all these things, but you you you want men to uphold to their traditional gender roles. So, it'd be

Brian Atlasfair to me if like, okay, a woman, she's just modern woman. She's like, yeah, the guy can just not really lead me and we can be 50/50 on decisions and in the relationship and I'll pick where to have lunch and we'll split the bills 50/50.

Brian AtlasExactly. Isn't that like a very modern take? Well, what I'm saying is if you're if you're a woman, like it's just weird. You you

Chloe Yummyguys want to make demands of men, be traditional, take be a leader, take initiative. I never made any demands on men. I just attract like guys that want to pay for me. And the only thing that I

Chloe Yummysaid the whole podcast that was a demand of a man was if you ask me on a date that you should pay. So, I don't make demands on men. Okay.

Chloe YummySo, if you're on a date with a guy and he the check comes, the waiter comes with a check. He says two two checks. Is there going to be a second date? Um, it Yeah, it possibly could. I would

Chloe Yummydefinitely not cut him off just because he did that. I wouldn't. I have enough money to pay for it. And if I really like him, I totally would go on another date. I just never experienced that. But

Brian Atlasit would not be okay. Like it sure. Yeah. So look, many of you women, you've just completely forsaken, abandoned, and cast aside any

Brian Atlasand all of your traditional gender roles. Yet with the with quite a bit of entitlement, you expect men to adhere to our traditional gender roles. If men are

Brian Atlasto be chivalous, what are women to be or to do? date one man at a time. Yeah. Okay. I

Holly (62)mean, isn't that what it is it's all about? But but what do men get? Well, what do men get in return for being chivalous? Aren't you starting to uh

Holly (62)build a foundation on a relationship when you go out? I don't know a woman that wants to spend time with the man that she's not interested in. and you'll

Holly (62)you'll find that out within the first date. And I also think that if you get to know somebody over the phone or

Holly (62)whatever first, you can you can eliminate 90% of your compatibility to even see if you want to go to lunch.

Brian AtlasYeah, but that's not really addressing my argument. What do men get for being chivalous? They get a feminine entering partner. Yeah. Okay. But how about can a man be a

Holly (62)loving and caring partner without being chivalous? No, cuz he's the leader of the relationship. He's the one that asked to get married. Sure. But what about you? I don't I don't think so.

Brian AtlasSo men need to do XYZ on top of all these sort of mutual expectations. So I'm sure like we they don't have to do it like we may should

Brian Atlaswant to do it. We may have okay women should want to be modest virgins that cook and clean. Find those women that you guys are happy together and are submissive and defer to men's leadership

Brian Atlasand you'll find them. But there are women that are like that. Hold on. But should women be Okay, let me ask you. Should men be leaders? Show of hands. Yes. Men should be leaders. Yes. Okay.

Brian AtlasShould women be followers? If they don't independent followers, hold on, hold on. Men should be leaders. Women should be followers. So to

Brian Atlasyou, my question is, if you're in a relationship with a guy and he says, "I don't like how you're dressing. I love you, babe, but I don't like how you dress. I want you to change. I want to

Brian Atlasstay with you, but I need you to stop posting these photos on Instagram. I want you to dress more modestly. You don't got to wear a burka, but maybe, you know, don't dress like that." If I'm

Brian Atlasin a committed relationship, I' i've been in that situation and I've that's happened. So, yeah. Well, the guy said it, but did you change? I did. It's just the right guy. Like, obviously we Did you argue with him for like 3 months

SPEAKER_03about it? No, I didn't argue. So, instantly you're just like, you know what, babe? It's just respect for your partner. If you I didn't say that you're right. I said, I may not agree, but if

Chloe Yummyit makes you feel respected, I'll do it. I don't think it's like that big of a or like it doesn't change you as a person if like you have clothes on or like less clothes. It's not that big of a

Chloe Yummydifference of like who you are. And like I said, like you said, like um I've been in this situation before. I did Only Fans where a guy did not want me to dress um like provocative or post online

Holly (62)and I didn't and I didn't have a problem with that. I had a guy that wanted me to just wear dresses. I couldn't wear pants and I did it. And you know what? It was fun.

Brian AtlasUh it's 12:00. Yeah. Well, we're going to try to get this. I'm pretty much almost hopefully almost wrapped up. I'm done with the questionnaire. There's a few more notes and then we'll get this

Brian Atlasall wrapped up here. Uh I think I'm I mean do you think women should be submissive? They want to. They want a traditional man. They want to. Okay. Yeah. It's like if they want to they want a traditional man. Like you said,

Brian Atlasit's a vice versa. If you want a traditional man, pretty much you're Oh, if you want a submissive man, pretty much you're probably a submissive. Well, you know what's interesting on this is that so women were submissive to their husbands, but all of you have

SPEAKER_03essentially traded that to be submissive to an employer. Well, yeah, I have to work. Yeah. No one Yeah. But I think an employer is going to ask way more of you. I agree. Than your husband. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03Like I work because I need money to and I'm not going to expect a man to like do it for me unless like I'm married to them and stuff. So am I just not going to work? Like what what exactly? I think we need to play the bow video. Mary, can

Brian Atlasyou play the bow video? It's one of the tabs. It's one of the earlier tabs. It's the the Asian woman who bows. It's my ex-girlfriend. It's It's in You have it. We're gonna

Brian AtlasAnd for that, we'll just do window tab. We don't need to do video on it. You have it. All right. Hold on. Let me hide this. So, this is This is actually your ex-girlfriend. This is my ex-girlfriend.

Brian AtlasUm, all right. Go ahead. Play it. Uh, boom. So this is my expectation. She has to greet me with a bow at the when I get home. That's disrespectful. You just threw that. Oh, you know, no, that's okay. This is just like you got

Brian Atlasto watch the rest though. You missed the other thing that I threw. So I just got home from like a long day of podcasting and you know it was rough. She's just here beer ready to go, meal ready to go.

Brian AtlasThe tom the tomatoes are dis were disgusting though. I had to scold her. Just just tomatoes just like that. And then be play it one more time. Play just

Brian Atlasthe bow. You did not date this person. There's boom. Did you see the [ __ ] bow? That's that's my expectation. I think so. When I get home to my spot, Yeah. I need a girl and she can be

Brian Atlaswhite. It's not just an Asian thing. Like she could be Latina, she could be black. Would you bow to your man? Would you do that? Oh, yeah. I do that. Okay. I don't do it. That's kind of racist. What do

SPEAKER_03you mean? Never mind. I just I mean I do things. I wait for him at the door. I mean when I wasn't working a lot and I had all the time in the world, I cooked all the time for him and it's generally things I like to do. I wait for him when he gets home and he's all and he gets

SPEAKER_03happy and that makes me happy. You know what I mean? Would you bow? Yeah. Yeah, I would love to. Okay. Yeah. I mean, really, it's just a gesture like I'm not going to like be on my knees, but like

Lauren (Healthcare)you know. Okay, why not? Um Okay. Yeah, I would. Would you hear the bow? I'm into humor. I think it'd be hysterical. I mean obviously does it too. Okay. What about you? Both. I don't bow, but I do kiss him when he comes home. Yeah. Like

Lauren (Healthcare)just But if he wanted to bow, would you do it? That'd be kind of weird cuz he's Korean, you know? Like that wouldn't translate very well, I feel. Do you would you hit a bow? No. No. Why not? No. It's like funny. Into the mic. Into

Amanda (Hair)the mic. I think it's funny. No, I'm not doing that. Why not? Because I'm not doing that. That's like humiliating. Why is it Why is that humiliating? Because why would you want me to do that? It shows respect. There's so many other things that I could do for you. You want

Brian Atlasme to bow? Yeah, he wants you to do that. Disrespectful. How is it disrespectful? Well, he like does Wait, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Um, you know that whole This is a chivalry thing. Do you want the man to walk on the uh closer to the

Brian Atlasstreet when you walk? Yeah. On the outside. Yeah. So, you walk closer to the I walk on the inside. I always get confused. Inside, outside. What is it? But you want him to walk closer to where the cars are. The outside. Yes. Why?

Brian AtlasExplain it to me. To protect me. In case of what? I we get attacked. Attacked? Why would you being like an asalent or a car or something? Okay. So,

Brian Atlasbut the car could be you're not being attacked, but the car the driver loses control. He's closer to it. He can do what? React. But he can take the hit

Brian Atlasfrom the car while saving you, protecting you. Yeah. Wow. So, just to be clear, and wait, show of hands, the other women, do you want as a act of chivalry, a show of

Brian Atlaschivalry for the guy to walk closer to the where the cars are uh on the sidewalk when you're walking with him? No. I don't expect it, but it's nice when people do it, right? But you do

Brian Atlasrealize the entailment of this is essentially saying, "I want a guy." And would you want on a first date a guy to do that? Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Okay. So the entailment here is you want

Brian Atlasa guy to literally die for you. You want men to die for you, but you won't do a completely benign effortless. How's it extreme? How's it

Amanda (Hair)going? No, no, no. You're the extreme one. You're the extreme one. The being on the like the probability that like something like that is actually going to happen. Like let's get real. It's because if we go back to tradition and stuff and you want to feel safe around

Amanda (Hair)someone and also I was raised by my dad and he was to open the door for me all the time and I have brothers and I don't take out the trash and there's certain [ __ ] I don't do as a woman and it just is what it is for me this is what I'm getting and that doesn't have to be the

Amanda (Hair)case for everybody else but I grew up male presence and they do things for me because I'm a woman and I like it. What do men get?

Brian AtlasThey get kisses after doing it. What do men get out of this arrangement? Like feeling youthful. What do Yes. What do men get from women?

EvelynYou get our attention. Men get so much power from being around women. But what do you do? What do women do? What do women do? Why you need to get something in return? Why you don't need Why you

Brian Atlascannot just give yourself? Why can't women just give themselves? Why do you need men to pay for first aids? Why do you need men to be protectors? Why do you need men to be providers? Why can't you just be happy with a 5'4 guy who

Brian Atlaslives in his mom's basement and eats Doritos all day? That's

Brian Atlasfre. You guys, what do men get out of the arrangement? They get what they want. A safe space. They give that back to you. No, but they get what they want. Like they're in a relationship for a reason. They can leave if they don't

Brian Atlaswant to be there, you know? Sure. I know. But I'm I'm analyzing this from a bird's eye view. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. So in this case,

Brian Atlaswhat do men get if they have to sacrifice potentially sacrifice their life for you? Well, I'm giving my life to do men. I'm spending it. Really? So have do you have any kids? If he's ready

Brian Atlasfor I don't get this argument. Well, women one day down the road potentially will have children. How many of No woman here has any children. You guys have collectively probably dealt with

Brian Atlashundreds of men in total. Maybe you didn't sleep with all of them. You've dated hundreds of men. You haven't produced one child. You received the benefits of male providing and male

Brian Atlasprotection. None of you have given a single man a child. So this idea that well one day the women will get okay. I've dated women. No. Huh? Is that like obviously you're going to have a children down the line, but it's just

Brian Atlasare you guys ready for it? Yeah. But this idea Okay, look. this idea that men should pay for first dates, men should do chivalry, men should do tradition because women have children. Uh, you dated all these men who did the providing and paying for dates. You

Brian Atlasdidn't give them a child. So, this idea that men should pay for first dates because child, you didn't give the man a child. So, we didn't receive the benefit. I doubt most men are ready for children like that right away. You give

SPEAKER_03them Yeah. Like you said, you're not having a You didn't have a child with your wife, right? I mean, not wife, your girlfriend, but you got all the other benefits. You came home and you were tired. She cooked for you. She waited for you. She gave you that apartment. I

SPEAKER_03took That was all me. Yeah. But that's why you deserve a girl. That's I took care of it. And you got a traditional woman because you were did the traditional. I had to dump her cuz she had fake titties. But that's another

SPEAKER_03conversation. It's like so irrelevant right now. But that's the point. Like I like natural women. Okay. Natural body supremacist. We're talking about the roles right now. You had you provided,

SPEAKER_03you did what you did. What do men get? Did Did you not get what you wanted out of her of your But that was more traditional dynamic. Exactly. That was a traditional dynamic. That's because she

Brian Atlasgave me the bow. She doesn't want to do the bow. I'm arguing with her. I'm arguing. He won't do the bow. Should we You got what you want out of your girlfriend. And that's cuz you provided what you needed. She could have done

SPEAKER_03more, by the way. Okay, then you could have discussed her. You could have discussed that with her. She could have done more that with her. I just kind of want a woman to get a man who does what he does will get a woman who does. Otherwise, men who seek women who can't

Brian Atlasdo it for them then then leave. But don't you realize how ridiculous it is for her to say I want a man to all of y'all to say I want a man to walk closer to the street in case hold. Let me

Brian Atlasfinish. In case a car comes tumbling, barreling towards me so that the man dies and the woman survives. That's not drama. That's what you said. So drama. push my man out of the way. Also,

Amanda (Hair)walking on the outside is like just like, "Okay, we're going to walk anyway, right?" So, let's say you'd pick her, but like I want her to walk humiliating. The woman should walk closer to the cars so that I'm

SPEAKER_03protected. Okay, that's what you want, man. You find a woman that does that. And also with the bullet, I think a woman should take the bullet instead of me. Okay, then you will find a woman that doesn't find your dream girl. The woman should take the bullet. The woman should take the bullet. Okay, she's out

SPEAKER_03there and she's going to take the point. If you want a woman to be that man, yes, sigma male grinds. Okay, but do you not agree that you got what you want? Can you not stroke the

SPEAKER_03crystal, please? It's very I'm moving out of getting us out of here. Okay, you are getting sidetracked. You molested my crystal. I want you to apologize. Look,

SPEAKER_03look that crystal deep in the eyes. Can you please just answer apologize to the crystal? You want apologize to Becky that you got out. You got what apologize to Becky. Becky, no. That's the name of the crystal. I'm not going to apologize to a dumb crystal. That was a crime. But

SPEAKER_03go ahead. Okay. But I'm just saying you got what you wanted out cuz you were a man who did what he needed to do. Did you not get what you wanted out of your girlfriend? Did she not do what you wanted to do? She literally died. She could have done more. Okay. She could have done more. But she did. That's the

SPEAKER_03thing. You She did. I don't know why you guys broke up. Maybe lack of communication, whatever. But the point is you got what you wanted and you were the man who like provided what she needed. That's a good dynamic and people lack that because they look for the wrong things. Stay with the wrong

Brian Atlaspeople. I can sure people can get what they want. But I'm telling you, this girl's saying this. She's saying the bow is crazy. The bow is crazy. You're crazy, bro. You want a guy You want a guy to walk in the You want a guy to

Amanda (Hair)walk closer to the cars so he dies. Absolutely. Okay. But dying, I don't look at it like that. I look at it. You want a guy to take a bullet for you? Um, like he jumps in front like my Argent My

Amanda (Hair)Argentinian friend here jumps in front of both out of the way. I want him to be smart enough to do that. All right, let's move on. It's 12. Yeah. Are we going home? No, we're we're almost done, though. Yeah, we are. Look, it's it's

Brian Atlasnot my fault. The She's been talking way too much. Evelyn's been just You've been yapping way too much tonight. Can you just shut up a little bit? Just Can you just be quiet? That's everything. No. Yeah.

Amanda (Hair)Almost. There's a few more things. Okay. Okay, a few more things. Um, I'm trying to remember more champagne at least. Time limit. What's the We said tequila shot. Look, I'm getting there. Get out of here, dude. Hour

Amanda (Hair)drive right now. I don't like it. Feel trapped. Calm your calm down. Calm down. Couple hours ago, I was feeling trapped. So, okay, here we go. I'm finishing up the show notes, folks. Uh, let's see

Brian Atlashere. Why do men Yeah. Why do men automatically have duties towards women while women Yeah. Women don't have any duties in society? Do it for every woman. Women have duties. Women don't

Holly (62)have duties. They don't have to make me a sandwich. Which what the [ __ ] It's really cool. Oh, okay. Here. Uh, a couple final things here. Uh, wait guys,

Brian Atlascan you test out in Streamlabs $30 roast session? Can you get somebody test out a $30 TTS? We'll let it come through as a roast. Uh, do you think roasted now? Probably. Uh, do you guys think men are insecure? Teresa, you think men who care

Brian Atlasabout body counts are insecure. Why is that? Like the p the past is the past and that shouldn't affect like your interaction or relationship with a And then Amanda, you also said men are

Brian Atlasinsecure if they care about a woman's body count. Yes, I did. Okay, cool. So, what is your body count starting with you? Five. Five. That's none of your

Amanda (Hair)business. Wait, I thought body count didn't matter. I mean, I'm not about to say it on here, but do you want to do a range? Is it over? Is it between like 50 and 100? No. It's kind of insecure of you to not

Brian Atlasshare your body count. I'm not sharing that on here. It's very controlling. Um, what's your body count? I'm a virgin. Zero. I've never I've never been with a woman. Uh, body count. I don't want to share that. I thought it doesn't I

SPEAKER_06thought it doesn't matter. Yeah. Give us a range. Give us a range. 5 to 10. My muscles. 5 to 10. Yeah. You're a [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ]

Brian Atlasliar. Okay. Body count? I'm 24 and I had two. 24 and two. Okay. Body count? I don't know. Range. I don't really know. You

Lauren (Healthcare)forgot? Yeah. No, I I I really don't care. So, I really don't count. So, I really don't know.

Brian AtlasHey. Hey. Oh my god. Chill, bro. Hey, chill. Uh, so you forgot. I just I don't know. I don't know the answer. Well, for example, if it was like three, you'd be

Brian Atlaslike, "Okay, there was Bob and definitely not three. And Bartholomew." Bartholomew. Okay. So, is it over 50? Um, maybe. Yeah. Over 100? No, definitely not. I

Lauren (Healthcare)don't think so. By the way, I'm not going to like insult you or judge you. Um, no. Okay. I mean, I I was single for I'm gonna keep a blank face to all your answers. What's that? I was I was single for a very long time. And all I have to

Lauren (Healthcare)say is I'm very blessed that I get to have sex when I want to have sex. You what? I'm very blessed that I've gotten to have sex when I want to have sex.

Holly (62)Like, so all the time. Well, you can interpret it as you'd like. Okay. Uh, body count. I'll never tell. Never. That's nobody's business. We're

Holly (62)We're homies, right? No, we're not Molly. We had a good No. And you know what? Anybody that I go out with into my colleague, my dear that asks me Yes. I'm

Holly (62)never telling. I feel like Do you want to do range? Do you want to do range? Why not? Absolutely. Is it over a hundred? I had this guy convinced I was

Holly (62)a virgin and it was bitching. You lied? No, I didn't lie. He kept guessing and then he's started guessing I was a virgin and I'm going, "This is just

Holly (62)entertainment to watch him twist and turn and try and figure out." Moving on. Uh, never. When How old were you when you lost your virginity? I am never

Brian Atlasgoing to tell. Wait, come on. That's fair. It's none of your business. Here, I'll tell you. I was 17 when I lost my virginity. Wow. [ __ ] ass. Let's just move on. Chill out. Chill out, lady.

EvelynCome on. Yeah. Less than 10. Ah, maybe because you don't want to save it. Yeah. No, I'm not. Uh, six. Six. Wait, so you're not going to share? No. Why not? Because I don't want to. Okay.

Brian AtlasWell, whatever it is. Multiply it by three and that's the real number for for everybody. Y'all liars. Come on. Got some liars here. Uh, that's crazy. Uh,

SPEAKER_06hold on. Going to You're a [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ] liar. Y'all want traditional men, but y'all got double triple digit body counts.

SPEAKER_03Let's not say all of them. That's not true. Not all of you. That's the hard thing about the podcast that you say all and it's just like every time it's just like gh but you know you say all. Not not all of you. Yes. But probably most

Lauren (Healthcare)of you just have such a big bone to pick with women. Yeah. I guess you just get so you get so fiery. I don't know. I just I would love to understand where all this passion comes from. This isn't

Brian Atlasreally I'm not This isn't really passion. You want to see passion? Trust me. There's been moments of passion. Okay. I'm just saying what's You guys are lying about your body count. Why do you feel that way? Why? Um Well, people you're not revealing it. No, I really

Lauren (Healthcare)don't know. I really don't know. Right. Which means you lost count. No, you never count. I don't reveal it. It's like how many people have you kissed? Like you're in your life. How many people have you kissed? Well, you would know. Tell me how many people you

Brian Atlaskissed. I mean, why didn't you count it? I'm not going to say the number, but I could. Yeah, I could say it's over this much. Okay. And then let's move on. Bro, chill out. It's not your podcast. You said Stop being a

Brian Atlaslittle bossy. Bossy. I have a boyfriend waiting for me. Like, literally, I feel bad. I've been up since 3 and I have to work at 6. We've got We've got a a group here of people who stay up late

SPEAKER_03partying. I do not party at all. You're 24. You're 24. It's past midnight. I've never been up past midnight before. I'm going to

Brian Atlasturn into the Yeah, I'm worried about my boyfriend. He has to drive to Santa. Be patient, my dear. Patience is a virtue. Like, not here. Give us a range.

Lauren (Healthcare)Give us a guess. A guess of what? Body cam. For me? Yeah. Will Chamberlain. Um, the thing that gets kind of crazy and I hate to talk about this, but so when you're manic, you you literally Another

Lauren (Healthcare)really awful symptom is that you get very promiscuous when you're manic. And then also like you literally like I black there's like months of my life that I just don't remember. So it's like I really don't know. Like I'm not you

Lauren (Healthcare)forgot some. But of the ones you remember, you know, I have I won't hold you to the forgotten ones. Well, you were you don't like orgasm doesn't really count, right? Oh my god. Like that's like a real thing though. I think

SPEAKER_03intercourse just counts. Yeah, I agree with you on that. What? Like if you if you just have like sexual relations, it was it just counts. Like I don't think you have to orgasm for it to count. Just a tip. Just for a second just to see how it feels. Just a tip. That's a body.

Lauren (Healthcare)Yeah. I really No, I I really don't know. Like I Yeah, [ __ ] We will both miss. Like how many shits have you taken in your life? You know, like damn. You don't probably calculate it. You don't count like it's like okay, how many days

Brian Atlashave I been live? Let's just say it's one per day and it's okay. Well, easy [ __ ] maths. Quick maths. Stop it. Get some help.

SPEAKER_08All right, you guys. Stop it. Get some help. Uh-oh. Based Thor donated $30. All right, so this is working. Five. Large Marge 62. Just give up already. As Kevin

SPEAKER_08Samuels says, Goodwill/s salvation army. Sh. If you're a 10/10, why do you wear makeup then? Confidence of mid girls in I've never been on the whatever podcast.

Brian AtlasWhat are you talking about? Chair one is for my donated $30. Chair one dressy tank top. Take your makeup off, guys. Take your makeup off. We do this as a

Lauren (Healthcare)segment at the end of the show. No way. Really? Everybody take your makeup off. I'm down. Take it off. You going to take it off, Teresa? Teresa is a Teresa is a legend. I need to go to bed and like

SPEAKER_03take my makeup off. Why am I the legend? What are you? You're a legend. I don't know. You to accept the compliment. Thank you. I think I think this person mistaken me for another Asian girl. I've never been

Brian Atlason the Yeah. Crack the door open. Crack the door open. Uh thank you for the the message there. All right. There. Once you guys are done, I want you guys to hold it up to the camera so we see the

Brian Atlasdamage. Wow. This is so funny. Uh all right, guys. Let's see. Okay, I'm just going to blast through these notes. Oh my god. My goodness. I'm going to do

Brian Atlashave to do a quick uh cultural differences. Yeah, cuz you said you were single your entire 20s living in San Diego and you were working in the cannabis and nightclub industry

Lauren (Healthcare)while holding you're single your entire 20s and you're 36 now. Uhhuh. Well, I got I was like single like 21 to like 28 or 27, something like that. All right,

Brian Atlashold it up. Are you guys done? Hold it up. This side. Hold it up. Hold it. No, they're still working. Okay, we'll come to this side. Hold it up. Okay. Oh, boy. I mean, you guys left a little bit of

Brian Atlasmakeup on. That's not really fair. Oh, wow. That Wow. Red lipstick. You look good, girl. Wow. That's uh that's Damn. That Whoa. Cool. Congrats, guys. That's

Lauren (Healthcare)You've got uh Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I was a little wild in my 20s. I'm not going to lie, you know. Yeah. What are you going to do? But I also had a corporate job. I've had a threesome. No. Forsome. I've had more than a foresome.

Brian AtlasNo. No. No. I'm I'm like, you know, just good at the basics. That's That's cool. Uh, so you said you think men have the capacity to love more than women. You're a masculine man advocate. Yeah. Eva,

Brian AtlasAva, whatever it is. Calm down. Calm your calm. Calm. He's sleepy.

Lauren (Healthcare)But yeah, I do think that when men fall in love, they fall in love harder than women are capable of falling in love. You said you think men are better fit for corporate leadership. Yeah. Yeah. I have a whole theory on Do the girls here agree. Are men better leaders? I guess

SPEAKER_03so. Yeah. Cuz we are emotionally like different throughout the month. Wow. That's really sexist. It's not. It's not. Me personally, as a male feminist, I think women are great leaders. That's

Brian Atlasjust how it is. We horizontally I can't believe I'm at a table. I can't believe I'm at a table with all these misogynist. I was so You are a

Brian Atlasmisogynist. This is disgusting. You're right. As a male feminist. Women are just as good leaders as men. It's despicable that you would even say that. I want you to look deep into this camera right here. Apologize to women. I don't

Brian Atlaswant to apologize to random people. No. Apologize to women. They're not random women. Say sorry to women. It's a joke, guys. Chill. Like do that. It's a joke. Well, here's what's crazy, though. Y'all women I already said it. God damn, I'm

Brian Atlasrepeating myself. Y'all want when it comes to dating, you want leaders, but you don't want to be followers. Uh, that's not true. That's true. I think we all said that we would be okay. Yeah. So,

Lauren (Healthcare)please bow. Okay. Just one person. We just like Oh my goodness. Can I tell you why I think that men are better corporate leaders real quick? Sure. Okay. So, men

Lauren (Healthcare)know when they're not the leader. So they function in hierarchies like way better. They know the alpha. Okay, I fall in line where women think that they're all the queens. I don't think so. Like they don't they don't they

Brian Atlasdon't like to like fall like they don't like to follow people. Well, you you said you think women are powerful and need more to take the responsibility to this species seriously. Wait, I need to get up just super quick, but won't you

Lauren (Healthcare)have to back and forth with the girls real Um, so I think, you know, there's this thing and his name is God and God's like, I'm going to create two two entities that are going to, you know, continue the species forever. And then

Lauren (Healthcare)they're like, who are we going to give the responsibility to to carry the species? And they're like the woman. So inherently the woman is very powerful. Like we and I think that a lot of women like think that there's like male

Lauren (Healthcare)privilege and all these things, but in a really fundamental like concept, we are very powerful. like we wars are started because of women. um like we or have the

Lauren (Healthcare)responsibility for the species and I mean sex appeal you know that's that's power like even when you go to a strip club I feel like that's a very powerful

Lauren (Healthcare)place in a lot of ways like you you have people that work so hard for their money and then they just give it to a woman cuz they're pretty cuz they're just sitting there you know like that's a

Lauren (Healthcare)type of power and I think I get sad when I see a lot of like younger women um that don't even realize that they have this power. And I think that that's not

Lauren (Healthcare)good. Wars were fought for women too, like like situations like they would go to war and and like also like you we need to be nice to men. I think like modern feminism is very toxic and um

Lauren (Healthcare)like men are really good. They've done a lot of really good things. Like everything around us that's like crazy good is literally was orchestrated by men. And I do think that they are better leaders. We have a lot of things that

Lauren (Healthcare)are really good for us. Like we are empathetic, you know, we we're not going to sit there and tell everyone like when Andrew was saying, "Why are you not saying that someone's blah blah blah rating or whatever." It's like, "Yeah,

Lauren (Healthcare)we have emotions. We are, you know, emotionally intelligent and stuff like that." But I do think that women have a lot of power and in like the toxic

Brian Atlasfemininity, they try to take that away. That was beautiful. I didn't hear any of it because I was gone, but it sounded like that little and part was Thanks.

Brian Atlasreally good. Uh, okay. You said there's four categories of men you want to date. You must put each guy in one of those categories. Yeah. So, bro, we're getting through all the notes. We're getting through all the notes. Everybody sent in

Brian Atlasnotes. That's the fair rule to do. We got to look. It's not my fault. You guys, it's not my fault. You guys were so amazing. You guys were so amazing. So

Lauren (Healthcare)good. that we're going long because you guys are just have, you know, so the the crux of that is essentially every type of relationship has to do with expectations. Are you finding the photo of the pillow guy? Oh, you want to see

Brian Atlasit? Not really. We're allowed to have our phones. No, I don't know where she got that. She snuck that [ __ ] Clean it out. Why? Why didn't anybody tell me she snuck that [ __ ] I'm going to show this, but nobody else. Here, show it after the

Lauren (Healthcare)show, though. We can't display it. We can't display anything on stream. Um, okay. Uh, what? Really quick, four categories. Tell me what they are. Um, so there's [ __ ] boy, lover, boyfriend, husband. And each one of them has like

Lauren (Healthcare)expectations that you need to understand. And as long as you understand those expectations, then you can function and not get hurt. Same thing for women, I guess, right? Are you are you like roleplaying the

Brian Atlasgynecologist office right now or what's going on? Cuz that that was a crazy spread with your legs right there. That was like sitting. Do you need to go to the OBGYn or what's up? No, I'm I'm just tired and I feel

Brian Atlasdelfortable. She's trying to get comfortable right now. I feel [ __ ] delusional right now. I'm so tired. Like, I just want to go home. This is a struggle session. This is a struggle session and this is where champions are

Brian Atlas[ __ ] made, boys. This is where champions are [ __ ] made. No excuses. Hold on. Let me play the I just want to talk to my man. That's it. I thought talking stage, but whatever. Listen, this is this is the Hold on. pep talk

Brian Atlashere. Okay. Hold on a second. Wait. Chill out. This is the [ __ ] final inning, boys. Ladies, ladies, this is the Okay. Uh uh, gentle ladies, this is the [ __ ] final

Brian Atlasinning here. This is where champions are made. This is where This is where legends are made. Okay, this is what it's all come down to. This moment right here. I feel like I'm in those like

Brian Atlasshows right here, right now. This is This is the championship rounds. Okay. 12:00 p.m. past midnight. This is the championship rounds. This is This is

Brian Atlasiron sharpens iron. I get it. Iron sharpens iron. And together we will come out of this stronger, sexier, more sleigh or whatever the [ __ ] you guys

Brian Atlassay. Slay queen. More slay. You just want us around. You don't want to go. No, I want to. Trust me, I want to lay down and ice my back. Um, so, uh, going to you, final note from you. You said

Brian Atlasyou uh you think y'all are too smart for many of these girls. I want to come on the show to show a different side of women. Yeah. I I mean I think that you know I'm not that I'm not that smart to be honest.

Lauren (Healthcare)Oh yeah. I don't know. I just think that it's good to have different types of perspectives on your you know. Did I get it right? Well, yeah. Eva. Eva. Yes. Okay. Eva. Eva. Ava. What's wrong? Yes.

Lauren (Healthcare)What's wrong? Go ahead. You weren't even listening to her. I was listening. Um I don't know. I just uh I was happy to come on here to try to, you know, talk

Brian Atlason you. Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Moving to J Nicolle. Yes. Did I say right? You did. You're welcome. Uh you describe yourself on Instagram as a

SPEAKER_03party princess. Oh, what does that mean? Well, because I'm a DJ and a producer, you know, I curate the vibes. I curate, you know, the atmosphere. So, I am a party princess. And I'm going to make sure you have time. Mhm. Get in the game.

SPEAKER_06Look at me. Look at me deep in my eyes. Teresa, get in the game. That's what I'm talking about. That's why he's the goat. You're the goat, Teresa. You're the [ __ ] goat. You're the

Brian Atlasgoat. Okay. Uhhuh. I want you to say that you're the goat. I'm the goat. There you go. Thank you, Teresa. That's great. Uh

Brian AtlasJ Nicol, yeah. Am I saying it? When it comes to modern dating, you honestly wish the conversation about 50/50 would just cease to exist. lol. In the current state of our economy, dating is not a one-sizefits-all type of situation. So,

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