ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! 62yr Old vs Andrew/Rachel! He Brought His MOM On A Date?! | Dating Talk #239

Date: 2025-04-21

Duration: 8h 23m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Healthcare)>

AAmanda (Hair)>

AAndrew Wilson >

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Lauren (Healthcare)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Chloe Yummy(guest)

SPEAKER_05Amanda (Hair)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Evelyn(guest)

SPEAKER_13Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Rachel Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe's age lie exposed: said 18, actually 19

ControversyALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE: Holly (62) vs Andrew Wilson heated confrontation over gender politics

Key MomentRachel Wilson calls in to confront Holly directly

Key MomentChloe accidentally reveals contractual OnlyFans obligation preventing her from quitting

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Eva, Chloe, Teresa, Lauren, Holly (62), Jade, Amanda, Evelyn.

Muhammad Ali Clip Reaction

Panel watches/reacts to Ali clip on race and women.

OnlyFans Legitimacy

Chloe defends OF. Andrew criticizes.

Self-Rating Looks

Guests rate themselves 1-10.

Chloe Age Lie Revealed

Actually 19, said 18.

Holly vs Andrew Confrontation

Title moment: Holly (62) and Andrew heated exchange over gender politics. Rachel Wilson calls in.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasStreamlabs.com/ whatever. Uh, moving on to the next thing. It was from our good friend Evelyn. Evelyn, the statement, men are not physically stronger than women. You circled that. So, you think

Evelynwhat? No, because I think there are womens that they are stronger than than the men and we can see that in sports even. So I don't believe that that is true. Well, I

Brian Atlasagree with you that there are some women who are stronger than some men but generally speaking are men stronger than women. For most of the uh physical work, yes.

Brian AtlasAs opposed to what do you mean? I don't know like carry heavy stuff. I don't know like yes all sports almost all sports in almost all sports men are do better

Brian Atlasthan women uh so do you disagree or agree I disagree what okay everyone is different and the talent is not because you are a woman or a boy so well here's

Brian Atlasthe thing though is if you look at world record holders so you have for example 15year-old high school boys who uh are

Brian Atlasfaster than or whatever the sport is then Olympic world record holders. So, and you have, for example,

Brian Atlasyou you like soccer or football. You're from Argentina. Okay. 15. Are you disagree? You disagree or Oh, no. No. Oh, you're doing a weird thing with

Brian AtlasYeah. Um, so, okay. You have 15-year-old high school boys who like dominate and crush like professional female soccer teams.

Brian AtlasHow do you explain that? Testosterone. I'm not asking you. I'm asking her. Can you repeat the question? 15-year-old

Brian Atlashigh school boys when they play against professional level female uh football players, soccer

Andrew Wilsonplayers. Okay. The 15-year-old high school boys destroy them. Really? Yes. I don't believe you, but if you say so, it's fine. Oh, here. Um, I can I can actually pull this up for you and give

Andrew Wilsonyou the exact teams uh where this happened, but it is in fact the case that they took pro soccer athletes who were female, put them against a high school soccer team, and

Andrew Wilsonthey lost not only mildly but badly. And here I'll give you the names.

Andrew WilsonThis is high school soccer team. male takes on pro female soccer team.

Andrew WilsonUm, one second here. I'll pull it up, Brian. I'll just uh make so that I make sure that you have the uh the right ones. But this video went viral, by the way, of them doing this. And it was

Andrew Wilsoncompletely humiliating to the women. They lost by every single metric you could conceive of. And they were pros against a high school soccer team.

Andrew WilsonOkay, thanks for the information. Uh FC Dallas U15 boys academy US women's national team. They won 5

Andrew Wilsonto2. Completely decimated. Just saying.

Andrew Wilsonto close.

Brian AtlasUh, here I'll pull up the actual article here. Uh, wait one sec. Here, while you're Do you have the other one pulled up that I sent you? Yeah, but I also sent this. So, let's do the soccer one

Brian Atlasfirst, then we'll do the other one really quick. Okay, get that pulled up.

Brian AtlasNope. All right, pull that up. Oh, there's going to be a bunch of [ __ ] ad

Brian Atlas[ __ ] Can't

Andrew Wilsoneven. Yeah. Uh, so this is see hold. Oh my god. I was just saying US15 means under 15. They were scroll up. Scroll up. Scroll up. Make it bigger. Mouse

Brian Atlaswheel. Make it bigger. Uh the so the US women's national team which mind you didn't they win the

Brian Atlaswomen's world cup or something. So, the Dallas under 15 boys squad beat the US women's national team in a scrimmage.

Brian AtlasAnd then pull up the other one, the boys versus women.

Brian AtlasU15 means under 15. These were these were 15. We showed it. We showed it. We showed it. Um, so this is the overall medal count. So this is comparing if you

Brian Atlaslook under where it says boys versus women, it says male high school ath male high school athletes versus female Olympians. So if you put high school boys and you put them in the Olympics

Brian Atlasagainst women in the Olympics, the boys the high school boys will steal all those medals where it says overall medal count. They'll take

Brian Atlasall those medals from women. Scroll down here. Let me hide the super chat thing. Scroll down. We're going to do track and field. We won't show everything, but scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. Right. No, no, no. Up, up,

Brian Atlasup. Stay right there. So, it's going to resort it. So, if you put high school boys against Olympic elite level women

Brian Atlasathletes, the men in the 100 meter uh dash or whatever, and in the 200 meters,

Brian Atlasboys take the top eight places over women. So, as a woman or excuse me, as a man, actually, wait, just scroll down.

Brian AtlasActually, let's see the other ones. This is 400 m, 800 m. It's going to resort it. So, blue is boys, red is women. They again, they

Brian Atlastake all the medals. They take the top eight places for 400, 800 meters. Scroll down. So to be clear,

Brian Atlasuh, okay, so the 5,000 meters, actually the women do a little better. 400 meter hurdles, the men do better. Just scroll down. We're going to skip through some of these. Scroll down. Just scroll down. Let's get to swimming. Long jump. Here we can do long

Brian Atlasjump. Okay, the men take most of it. Scroll down to the Let's do the pull vault. High jump. I think we get the point. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do one more. I just want to show you the swimming. Okay, the men take all of it. Scroll

Brian Atlasdown. We get it. Sometimes you got to be thorough. Scroll down. Just scroll down. Scroll down. Swimming. Here's the swimming. Majority of us that Okay, here's the swimming. Okay. All right.

EvelynYou got high school boys who are who? Yes, we we get it. But but I don't know if she's convinced. Are you convinced? And now that you showed me the proof. Yeah. Okay, that was easy. Cool. Moving on. Thank you for the information.

Andrew WilsonThankf course. You're welcome. just well I just got to ask you though if you so I want to believe that you're not a delusional woman. Can't you just look

Andrew Wilsonaround you in society and see for yourself that it's not even close? Like when you think about all the electricians and movers and construction

Andrew Wilsonworkers and mechanics and everybody who makes the world work with your own eyeballs, they're clearly not women.

EvelynLike clearly not women, right? Like that's just clearly true to you, isn't it? I know. But maybe at some point is something like cultural because for years like women been doing like

Evelyndifferent type of work and men been doing different type of work and of course if they are stronger than women as they say. Actually I love this argument. I think it's a great one. So

Andrew Wilsonif you're primitive, if you're a primitive man and a primitive woman and survival is the thing that you're after, then wouldn't you associate jobs with the people who are the best at those

Andrew Wilsonjobs in order to have the best survival rate? Mhm. So very clearly then, if men are the hunters and women are the gatherers, what have we established?

Andrew WilsonI think we all get that biologically males are stronger. Uh it's not just stronger. Uh what else? Like why are they just in the capacity for these

Andrew Wilsonthings and women are not just have to do with strength? Because there are women who you can argue are stronger than some men and they still don't go into these fields. There must be something else

Andrew Wilsonwhich is compelling there. What is it? Well, I I've seen some women in the fields, but yeah, it's just harder work. Yeah, I understand. No, there's basically none. Like, if you look at linemen, electrical linemen, there's

Andrew Wilsonbasically no women at all. Like, basically none. And even the ones who are considered electrical linemen don't actually go out and build power poles.

Amanda (Hair)They just don't exist in this field at all. Do you want women to do that? Want? Yeah. The point you're making is that you want women to do that. I would

Andrew Wilsonhappily, if you wanted to, I would h be happy to exchange where women did all of the most horrific jobs in society while I kicked my feet up and said, "Look at

SPEAKER_03my tits." And I got whatever I wanted. That seems like a way better deal to me. Yeah. Than the bigger there's there's just man and women stuff. Yeah. Just just what society is. I mean, I don't

Andrew Wilsonmind. Am I crazy? Doesn't it seem like a way better deal? Like how upset would you be if you were objectified for your body and basically didn't have to do [ __ ] But I thought you like how mad

SPEAKER_03would you be about that? I think I would trade male privilege for female privilege. So if you do that if you could be born again, would you choose to be a woman? Like genuinely

Andrew Wilsonwould you? No. I'm saying if I could stay your life, but would you choose to be a woman like with everything you I've asked this too. The problem is when you make Yeah. Yeah. So the problem with this is when you make an onlogical

Andrew Wilsonargument like would you choose your state of being? Yes. I don't know what the state of being is but you think it's easier and you think it's absent my own. I can only observe. Correct. So from an

Andrew Wilsonobservational standpoint it is very clear to me that women have life on easy mode in comparison to men and that women often will demonize men as though that is not the case which is just [ __ ]

SPEAKER_03absurd. It's very clear that they do. Yes. I think men and women both have it hard in just different ways. But no, women don't have it hard in any ways. That's your point of view. But if you

Andrew Wilsonthink if you think if you think being a woman is very easy. Yes. From your perspective, would you just if you could choose? I'm actually willing to listen to a counterargument. Tell me what are

SPEAKER_03Can you answer that question first though? Hang on. What are women's hardships? What are women's hardships? What? Can you answer that question I asked first? That men don't have. Can you answer that question I asked first though? Would you

SPEAKER_03be What's the question you asked? I'll answer and then you answer. Promise. Promise. Okay. So, if you know like for certain that being a woman is that much easier, would you choose it? What would

Andrew Wilsonyou want to be born a man? Well, sure. Sure. From like from the the logical spectrum of course from the logical spectrum. I would take all things which are female privilege

Andrew Wilsonand hand them to men. Yes. No. Not handing. Would you be reborn as a female if you could choose? Like if if it's so easy, would you want to be a female? You're asking a question which I have no frame of reference to answer cuz it's

SPEAKER_03ontological. You're asking question. But you're literally saying being a female is easier. So I'm asking you so would you want to be a female like if you could be reborn? I'm asking that these are two different questions. Well, I'm

SPEAKER_03asking you this one and I'm asking you're asking you have to be silent enough for me to answer the question you ask. Okay. But it's just a yes or no question like you say. True or false? Yes or no? It's not. Okay. Okay. I'll

Andrew Wilsontell you what. Uh, yes. If I had the understanding. No. Just yes or no. Just yes or no. Cuz you think Okay, hang on. So, yes or no. Would you get [ __ ] up the vagina with

Andrew Wilsonrazor wire to save your nephew? I'm just But you you're for [ __ ] up the vagina with razor wire to save your nephew. Yes or no? You see the point? You're counter arguing.

SPEAKER_03Answer my question. Why don't you answer mine? Man, man, man, just say yes or no. It's a simple yes or no. Answer mine. I said yes. But you said you brought it in with a

SPEAKER_03the What does the word [ __ ] yes mean? Okay, so you would be you would want to be reborn as a woman. Okay, thank you. That's my question. Would you rather be

SPEAKER_03would you would you Yes. Yes. Okay. Would you get [ __ ] up your vagina with razor wire to save your nephew? Um to save my I don't really care for my family like that cuz I'm Yes or no? But

SPEAKER_03if I had to get [ __ ] Okay. Yes. 100 fucking%. Okay. And shut up with this [ __ ] Okay. What? Why does that It has nothing to do with each other. You're just asking an irrelevant question. I'm saying that when you have

Andrew Wilsonif you have a loaded if you have a loaded yes or no. Okay. Correct. I can only answer though from the the status of what is ontology. But if you load it, then I can load it back. Yeah. I I

Andrew Wilsondidn't say Here's another one. Here's another one. Here's one. All right. Mhm. Would you would you go back in time to kill Adolf Hang on and save 6 million Jews?

SPEAKER_03Okay, if you knew it would lead to the eradication of 8 million Asians. Um, boring. Do I have to choose? Boring. But why do I have to? So why are you forcing

SPEAKER_03me to choose such a like this is not boring? I don't even I I'm not boring. I'm literally asking you a question and you're asking me one. For what point? Thank you for answering the fact. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead again because I

Andrew Wilsonpromise. So, I'm going to have to answer and make a choice. Go back in time and kill Adolf Hitler knowing it would save 6 million Jews if it led to the eradication of 8 million Asians. Would you do it yesterday or Oh, perhaps. I

SPEAKER_03don't. Yes. No. No. That's not yes or no. I will kill my Asian race. Perhaps. Yes. Yes. Oh, preferably like North Korea. Maybe like then they wouldn't be like preferably those Asians, you know,

SPEAKER_03like So, yes. So, now you now now maybe you understand what a loaded question. No, I don't because you for a fact say that women have it easier and you're like, "Yeah, I would rather have tits and like take pictures and you already

SPEAKER_03said that as a woman that's not like right and for you to be a woman and do that." Wait, he said that? Yes. No, never. Really? But I'm just You You literally said it's easier to just take pictures and like live an easy life. So,

SPEAKER_03okay. Then if you were a woman, would you be doing that though? Yeah, it is easier. But and yeah, you you think about the Only Fans girls who do it, but what about the girls that aren't doing it? You know, like I don't Yeah, I'm just You're talking about them. Yeah.

Amanda (Hair)What about them? Yeah, I'm just They're not doing it and you don't. So, you guys always talk about the worst things. Okay. But anyways, how many more questions do you have? I'm ready to go home. We need to like wrap this up.

Brian AtlasYeah, we got more. So, let's get it going. Okay. I mean, what time is it? It's time to go home. It's time to How many more questions do we have? I got 8 minutes left. No, we're going longer

Amanda (Hair)because y'all took forever to get through all this stuff. So, no. You let the whole argument with them continue for a very very long time. Yeah, that was like a yelling match for 10 minutes is like

Brian Atlasridiculous. Anyway, what are the questions? What do we have to do? How about we stop the meta conversation? We'll get through all the questions and then once we're done with everything, then we can wrap the show. Okay. So, uh we can This is an interesting convo perhaps time permitting. We'll get back

Brian Atlasto it. But I'm going to continue on with the questionnaire. Going to you, you said uh so for number 19, men are not the primary victims of war. To which you agree. So who are the

SPEAKER_03primary victims of war? I think about everything like in terms of like grape on women like not just if if you're talking about them doing the fighting, I do they I do think they are like of course the victim war. Yeah. But then

SPEAKER_03like I'm talking about like everything about war like the rape of war the fighting war don't use essay or grape sorry the the grape of war and I think it in that perspective but if you're talking about who fought and stuff okay

Brian Atlaslet me ask you a question then do you so you're saying that like everyone's somewhat affected but the main well how do you differentiate when it comes to I guess uh the impact or suffering so yeah

Brian Atlasdo you think for example like do you make the following trade I guess If you can prevent one woman from being raped, it's worth killing a thousand

SPEAKER_03men. Do you take that trade? No, I can't because that's I mean that's something I can't even choose from. Like I I personally Yeah, I know you don't have that hypothetical, but um No, that's okay. So in war overwhelmingly and if

Brian Atlasyou can look at historical wars, World War II, World War I, Hold on, hold on. Stop interrupting. Sorry. You look at World War II, World War I. These are the most documented historical events ever.

Brian AtlasSo, we know pretty well when it comes to military casualties, deaths, and then also crimes against women. Can you I don't know why you're doing this. Why don't you chill out? I'm so excited to talk about this. Okay. Okay. So, we know

Brian Atlasthat something like h 20 million men died or something like that and then there were civilian casualties. So, and yes, women absolutely were graped in during World War II, World War I. We don't know the precise numbers. It

Brian Atlasdefinitely wasn't 20 million. Do you think that 20 million male deaths here? I'll just be charitable. 5 million women were raped. 20 million men. That's probably not even the actual numbers,

SPEAKER_03but just to throw out a number. Okay. 20 million men dead. Mhm. Which is worse? Um, do I have to pick or do I get to like talk on like why I chose that? Exactly. Pick and then you can tell me

SPEAKER_03why. Okay. What am I picking on again? I'm picking which is worse. 20 million men who die or 5 million women who get raped? I don't I'm not sure only because I think men like they go to war. Of course, some of them don't want to, but

SPEAKER_03they do fight for a cause and they feel proud to like fight for their country or I'm just saying like maybe majority. And I think like grape is very grape or essay. I said grape. Oh, sorry. I said

SPEAKER_03grape. It didn't sound like it, but okay. Just says I would just say go ahead. Essay is very um like it's not chosen at all. I would say I would say you know what the draft is? I'm sorry. You know, you heard about comfort women,

SPEAKER_03right? during war and all that stuff and it's just like that like men Yeah, I agree. Bad essay bad comfort women bad. Yes. And I just think that war in general of course like I think the who

SPEAKER_03who chooses war like is it men or women? Like who chooses war? I'm just saying like I just don't make you choose between it's just bad period and if you're talking if you're going to ask a question you got to let me answer the

SPEAKER_03question. You can't just ask you can't just uh Okay. Yes. What's it called? Um, I go over it like like every time you guys do here, you guys do that quite often. Yeah, I'm the host. So, but it's just Okay, so you get to do whatever you want, I guess. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm the

Brian Atlashost. I'm going to interrupt people. I'm going to move things along. So, your your whole argument is that uh women don't have a say. Well, most men, you think like 18-year-old men want to go to war? Of course. I said I I don't

Brian Atlasthink a lot of people go to war. It's not an argument. It's just like my thought process. Throughout most of human history, like most men were conscripted into war. Yeah, of course. I don't think that they want to go to war, but I think Yeah. So, where do you where's your trade-off though when it

Brian Atlascomes to like the greater suffering or the greater loss? Uh, I think both have a bad How about this? If you could uh if you could prevent one woman from being raped, would you I already said no. Kill

SPEAKER_03a 100 men. Already said no. 10 men. Um, no. I guess I can't. One for 10 is just it's hard. I can't choose that. Don't make me choose that. I just think

Brian Atlaseveryone What about from a from a justice perspective? Would you Why Why do I have to pick like specific people? Just testing the logic. So, would you

Brian AtlasOkay, got it. Would you uh send a hundred innocent men to jail? Uh-huh. To save one innocent woman or something? No. Would you send one 100 innocent men

Brian Atlasto jail if it meant one actual uh rapist, serial rapist was convicted? Okay. Yeah. It's just not fair. It's just Okay. I'm just confused though. So

Brian Atlasif we're doing a comparison when it comes to war. Yes. The the prompt is so you said men are not the primary victims of war. Yeah. So how could it possibly be the case if there's 20 million men who die and only you know x amount we

SPEAKER_03don't have the exact numbers? That's just my emotional thought on it in terms of logical thought on whether or not I would choose to save one woman over a 100 innocent then that's something I I'm

SPEAKER_03logically making a sense of. Okay. So are men So are men the primary victim? This is my opinion and I think that I just say no because there's just so many things I don't Yeah. But are men the primary victims of war? I can't I agree.

Brian AtlasWell then if not men who? Just people. It's just war. Everybody. Yeah. But okay. If the question is uh is it is it women? It's just both genders. Yes. I understand that both men and women can

Brian Atlasbe and are victims of war. Okay. Let me ask you let me make it super simple. Okay. Uh a woman who's pregnant. Okay. That must be really difficult for the husband to witness the pains of

Brian Atlaspregnancy that his wife is experiencing. Okay. Who is the primary sufferer of pregnancy? The woman or the husband? Physically the woman. Psychologically

Brian Atlasboth. It's just both. Why would it be psychologically both? It is. Do the other women here agree psychologically it's more difficult for the husband to go through a pregnancy than it is for the woman to go through the pregnancy? I

Andrew Wilsonrespectfully disagree. Oh, actually actually I'll just I'll just agree. I'll just concede on this point. Say you're right. It's possible that psychologically the husband goes through a worse time than than the woman. Bad

Andrew Wilsonwhen you can't do anything about Hang on. Hang on. Let me finish. Okay. In some cases, it could be the case that a husband psychologically goes through more than the woman. But do you think overall that the woman is the primary

Andrew Wilsonvictim of the pregnancy or the husband even if he goes through somehow more more psychological damage? Yes, of course. Cuz physically and mentally. Yes. Okay. Got it. So then Brian's asking that that exact same question

Andrew Wilsonphysically and mentally. Who is the primary victim of war? Answer the actual question being asked, please. I I say both. I Sorry. I'm sorry. I How about this here? I'll give you another scenario. Okay. Uh, a boyfriend is

Brian Atlasthere's a boyfriend, girlfriend, right? They're dating each other. The girlfriend is raped. Okay. Okay. That is something really difficult as someone who you care about and love to see see them have to go through that. That's a

Brian Atlasterrible thing. Awful crime. It's going to have ramifications on the relationship. You feel for them. You have empathy for them. They've they've been perhaps phys violently physically assaulted. The emotional trauma that's

Brian Atlasgoing to entail in that. Who's the primary victim? of course the woman who was raped or the boyfriend who you would acknowledge you would acknowledge that the boyfriend that's got to be very traumatic as a

Brian Atlasboyfriend to to go through that. Is it as traumatic as the woman who was raped? Um I'm going to say no. And so why can't you say that about men and war when it's

Brian Atlasclear that men are overwhelmingly the ones who die in war, the ones who are injured in war, the ones who are involved in war. Okay. U because like I said it's just both. It's physical and

SPEAKER_03psychological. Women are getting essay and they can't really they were they even allowed to go to war. And I'm just saying men can fight for a cause at that time. I don't know. I watch movies. I don't know much about war in general,

SPEAKER_03but and that's just my opinion. How about this? Okay. Okay. Uh children or women primary victims of war? Um no, I just say both. Just people were I just Yeah. Yeah. But the pime What is the

Andrew Wilsonword primary? I guess primary. Do you want to talk about like number-wise? If you're talking about number, can you just answer my question? Yeah. In terms of numbers, yeah, primary just answer my question. Majority. Can you just answer

Andrew Wilsonmy question? Majority. Can I at least a ask the [ __ ] question? Yeah, you just Yeah, go ahead. What does the word primary mean? Majority.

SPEAKER_03Okay. So, primary victim of war. Okay. Women or children? Oh, between like women or children? Like choosing between the two? Yes. Oh. Um I I don't know the the stats.

SPEAKER_03Children, I don't know the stats. So primary victim of war, majority. Yes. Men men or children. Okay. Um again like I need if you if you want to talk about numbers which I can really talk about if

SPEAKER_03you show me two numbers men more men than children then I would say primarily men. Simple. If you want to show stats about women and men, then yeah, primarily. Got it. So, what stats? Like

SPEAKER_03death? Just like just death. I don't know. Whatever you guys want to put numbers on because No, we're asking I'm asking you. It could just be death. Um, is that the metric we're using? Just anything involved cuz it's war. It could

Andrew Wilsonbe death. It could be anything plus psychology plus psychological damage. Yeah. Just everything. Primary victim meaning the majority of the victims of war. Mhm. Men or women? Um, if you want to give me numbers, I can point it out,

Andrew Wilsonbut I don't know them. Like, how about just give us your intuition and tell us why you have that intuition. Uh, intuition on why. Intuition on which one? Like why? If you had to guess. So, let's pretend for a second. You're in an

Andrew Wilsonalien ship and then put a gun to your head and say, "You have to decide right now. I don't know why. Primary victim of war, men or women, based on psychology and physical death. Who would you choose

SPEAKER_03even if you didn't have the stats?" All right. I won't say men because they were the fighters and of course they were the ones in the front lines. So why did you say that at the beginning like that it

SPEAKER_03was women? I didn't say it was women. I just said I just didn't agree. Okay. I just think that everyone like men, women, children, whatever. Like they're all like um you know I don't think we

Brian Atlaslook Yeah. When it comes to war, when it comes to war, children are victims. Women are victims. That's how I saw it. But primary victims of war, primary

Brian Atlaswould indicate like the most, the first, this sort of thing. Okay, then I would say amen then. I'm going to move it on then. Uh, let's see. You say male privilege exists. We sort of talked

Brian Atlasabout that a little. I think female privilege exists, too. You know, there's just two sides. Teresa, you also said male privilege exists. I I think both exist. Okay. Both male and female.

Brian AtlasHolly, you said male privilege exists. Okay. Okay. Uh, Jade, you said male privilege exists. Yeah. And you think

Brian AtlasAnd you think men are more privileged in society than women? Yes. Okay. Amanda, you said male privilege exists. Sure.

Brian AtlasAnd let's see if there's anything else here. Uh, okay. I mean, I actually I dispute that men are more privileged than women. And I don't even really like this whole male privilege thing because

Brian AtlasI think you need to look at the totality of somebody's circumstance. So a male there are perhaps male privileges but I believe privilege has to be

Brian Atlasanalyzed by the totality of someone's circumstance. So for example a uh say a 5-year-old boy but he has terminal

Brian Atlascancer. Does he have male privilege? Is he privileged over Does anybody want to This is sort of intersectional. Does a 5-year-old boy with terminal cancer, is

Brian Atlashe more privileged than a woman who doesn't who's perfectly healthy? No. No. Right. So, we have to look at the totality of circumstances on the

Brian Atlasindividual level. M and so this idea that and frankly I I can't even think of and also male privilege has to be analyzed in comparison to female privilege because to indicate based on

Brian Atlassolely on your gender okay it confers privilege it in comparison to what men are privileged for if if we say men are privileged

Brian Atlasbecause they get $10 a year and women don't this is just I'm making something up men are privileged because the government says says, "You know what, men? You're so special. You each get a

Brian Atlas$10 a year check that women don't get, but they also have a corresponding duty." And say that duty is as men, we

Brian Atlascan force you to go to war and you can die. You can get PTSD. You can get maimed. You can get your arm blown off. You can get your leg blown off. You can get trench foot. You can

Brian Atlasget you can die. All the bad things that are entailed with war. Would we say that in totality, knowing that men can be drafted, would we say that well men do

Brian Atlasget that $10 a year that women don't? Is it a male privilege? I think privilege is subjective. Is what is subjective? How would it be? Sub it

Brian Atlaswould be like any type of privilege. Like what is a privilege? But I guess the point I'm trying to make is in totality, I don't think we could say that, well, yes, men do get paid $10 a year by the government. Women don't.

Brian AtlasThat's a privilege, but they also have to go to war and die and women don't. So, in totality, where is the total male privilege? And that's what we have to do

Brian Atlaswhen we're talking about privilege is compared to what? And what is the totality of circumstances? I agree. Yep. 100%. I always think that environmental

Holly (62)factors, you know, and just like how you're Oh, go please. I I'm just uh I think when I read privilege, it made for

Holly (62)some reason I thought um men uh represent strength and so there are the um maybe priorities a better word or

Brian AtlasOkay. Anyway, sure. Um so, Jade, you said men are more privileged in society than women. Uh, I don't know if there's somebody else who said that. I think Oh, wait. Uh, yeah, I think that was just

Brian Atlasyou, Jade. I'll open it up to the whole panel, though. Can anybody here tell me uh when it comes to grievances? So, male grievances, female grievances, can any

Brian Atlasof you state a singular female grievance that even approaches forced military conscription? What do you mean? Child birth. That's a choice most of the time.

Holly (62)No, I thought you said grievance. Isn't that a grievance? How would that Well, how how would that be? Like I I think I understand um what

Andrew Wilsonyou're saying is like that's something women have to deal with. Men don't. They just have to deal. They don't have a choice. But that couldn't be but that could be a grievance. It's not like we could do something about that, right?

Holly (62)Well, you're saying that a man has to go to war and in order to repopulate the earth, the woman has to give birth. Yeah. But they're not compelled to give birth, right? Nobody's forcing them to.

SPEAKER_03The government doesn't force women. Like there's not a draft for women. Oh, okay. Like you need to have kids. I mean, if we were like physically stronger, I feel like it would be the same. But we're like draft not. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_03Biologically, we are not stronger. Yeah, but I'm just asking. Yeah. So, it's just like if they're drafted to if we are Well, they're doing something that they have to do. But wouldn't that say then that just because we're stronger we

Andrew Wilsonshould do this thing? Well, it's just it doesn't that make sense? Like if we're just Okay, hang on. Hang on. I agree. If that if that makes sense to you, then just because you can have children, you

SPEAKER_03should. I mean, yeah. I guess it's what you have to do. I want to have children. you know, if people don't want to. So, so then so then you should have children cuz you can't. I want to. Yeah. And I

SPEAKER_03want to, but then you know, so wait, no, you should. So, it's actually immoral if you don't, is it? Um, no. But it's not immoral if you don't. That's why there's like deserters, you know, like it's they

Andrew Wilsonjust Can you name for me a thing you should do which isn't a moral claim? Sorry. Something I should do that is is immoral. What is a should claim that is not moral? You should do what which isn't a moral claim?

Andrew WilsonCan you give me example a moral? Yeah. What should I do that is moral? Unless Yeah. That isn't moral. That isn't moral. That I should do that isn't moral. Shouldn't Shouldn't that I

Andrew Wilsonshouldn't do? What shouldn't What should not Andrew do which isn't moral?

Andrew WilsonI don't know. I'm sorry. You don't know. I don't know. When you say when you say should, that's an ought claim. Like you ought do a thing. Those are moral claims. Hang on. Hang on. Those are

Andrew Wilsonmoral claims. You're making a moral claim. So if you say men are stronger, therefore they should do thing. I think that means you're saying it's immoral if they don't do thing. So is it immoral if

SPEAKER_03you don't give birth? Well, they're capable of doing. Hang on. Let her answer, please. Yeah. Okay. Is it immoral? Is it immoral if you don't give birth? No. But it's not immoral if you don't go to war. Like,

Andrew WilsonI'm not going to be Then it's not a should claim. Then why should I go to war? Okay, you don't have to go to war. Well, then it's absurd to say that because we're stronger, we should do that then. Oh, you don't have to. But it's just more logical to put Yeah, but

Andrew Wilsonyou said to me that because you should. Okay, my apologies. I like that. That makes no sense, right? That makes no sense. Correct. So So then here's my

SPEAKER_03question to you. Should women who can give birth? Uh oh. I said no because I don't. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Then should men who can protect you protect you? No. Unless they

SPEAKER_03want to. No. Yeah. Right. So unless they want. So we have a compelled draft, right? Um I didn't. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I didn't choose. Okay. So if men are compelled

Andrew Wilsonto, you know, where they don't want to Okay. Right. Then you would have to say that that's immoral, right? Of course it is immoral. Okay. So then if people attack the

Andrew Wilsonnation and they want to like carry you off as um I don't know booty, let's say they want to carry you off as literal treasure and then take you back to their home country and like uh I don't know essay you a million times and cut off

Andrew Wilsonyour head. Should men protect you from that? I'll protect myself. I'll off myself before that happens. You're going to [ __ ] protect I'll off myself before that happens. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Little miss going to protect herself.

SPEAKER_03Can you just walk me through how you load a semi-automatic pistol? I don't know. You're going to protect yourself. Do if I have to off myself to protect myself,

SPEAKER_03I will. How do you people I'm not going to expect anyone to protect me unless they But then if that ever happens, I'd rather off myself. Andrew, your audio is muted. I'd rather off myself than like have that happen. And that's how I'm

SPEAKER_03going to protect myself then. I'm not going to ask anybody who doesn't want to to do it if you know like that's what that's my opinion.

Brian AtlasAndrew, hello. Can you speak? You got muted or something. I don't know what happened. I I don't know if it's on our

Andrew Wilsonend. Can you hear us, Andrew? Thumbs up if you can hear us. Yeah, I can hear you now. Oh, we can hear you. So, can you just walk me through then? Uh going to protect yourself. How do you load a revolver? You know, you know, you know,

SPEAKER_03I after this podcast, I might just learn it, but right now I don't know. Do it now. Oh, of course not. But you know, you know, now that you think about it, maybe yourself. You got to take care of

Andrew Wilsonyourself. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So, so let me just get this right. I just want to make sure I get your position right. All right. Wait, we got to make it quick. Andrew, you got to make it quick. Hang on. It's immoral for

Andrew Wilsonyou to draft men. That's bad. But on the other hand, I completely and totally am reliant on male security for my existence. But don't worry, I can actually protect myself, but can't even load a firearm. That's not Do I have

SPEAKER_03that right? Is that right? No, it's not right. No, that's not right. I think it's immoral to only use Are you going to use [ __ ] karate? Are you going to karate your way out of it? You know, maybe I'll learn that, too. [ __ ] man.

Brian AtlasHonestly, like you just I don't know what you're trying to uh so going to Teresa here. Teresa, you said that women do not have equal rights to men in the

Brian AtlasUSA and that women are oppressed in the USA. Um, what rights do men have that women don't?

SPEAKER_03Well, the abortion thing, for example, like some states, some women don't get to have an abortion if they choose to. What if you get raped? You're you're forced to have the baby.

Brian AtlasTry to use essay or grape if you can, please. Um, okay. Besides that, is there anything else? No, that was just the reason I circled it because it made me feel bad. Okay. Um, so and then Amanda,

Brian Atlasyou also said that women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. Uh, why is that? Yeah, that was the same because of abortion rights and anything else besides abortion though or just abortion? Uh, that was that's the main

Brian Atlasthing. Yeah. And then you said women are oppressed. Why are they oppressed or is it also abortion? also abortion. Okay. So, it's not clear to me at least

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to equal rights because the question or the statement is women do not have equal rights to men in the United States. Men don't have any reproductive

Brian Atlasrights. So wouldn't actually just an outright complete abortion ban create equality between men and

Brian Atlaswomen. the So you're saying ban all abortions and then it's even that's what you're saying equal rights. So currently men have no rights when it comes to

Brian Atlasreproduction. Okay. So it's not clear to me if there's an inequality that exists between men

Brian Atlasand women when it comes to abortion. Men can't uh men can't abort a woman's child. They can't prevent an abortion. Yeah. So, for this reason, it's not

Brian Atlasclear to me if it's an inequality of rights between men and women. You might you could say it's an exclusively female issue. Mhm. Sort of. You could say that. I hear what you're saying. It It's just

Andrew Wilsonnot fair in my opinion. Well, you guys, all of you, I I hope you all have a wonderful evening. I have to get out of here tonight. It is my job to

Andrew Wilsonbe a provocator and make sure that I give the other side of all of the arguments. I hope you don't hold that against me because I do it really well. Um, but I did enjoy meeting all of you

Andrew Wilsonand I have conversations like this all over the world. Brian, we'll send a raid over your way. Thanks for having us on this evening. Thank you, Andrew. Hope you have a good night. Thank you for tuning in. Uh, okay. In the sources tab,

Brian Atlashide the Discord. Hide Discord there and then we'll do it. center zoom too. Hide it there. All right. Okay. All right.

Brian AtlasAndrew has left the house here, so you guys can just bully me, I guess. Um, so, but you said it's not fair. I don't think it's fair.

Lauren (Healthcare)I think it's kind of unfair for some men who want to keep the baby and then they have an abortion anyways. Like I think that there is some type of inequality in

Brian Atlasthat. Um, personal opinion. Or what about the man who doesn't want the kid, but the woman keeps it and she baby traps him and he's on the hook for child support for 18 to 21 years. I mean, it's like it takes two to tango, you know?

Lauren (Healthcare)What do you mean? Like you made a baby together. So, are you pro-choice or pro- life? Um, I am pro I don't know. Like when I was younger, I got tricked by the feminist be like abortion, everyone

Lauren (Healthcare)loves abortion and stuff, but then I've never had one. I would never want to have one. I think that people should have them if it makes sense for them.

Brian AtlasWhat does that mean? Like, I'm here. 19-year-old girl gets pregnant, she's not financially ready, she doesn't want to have the kid.

Brian AtlasUh, can she get an abortion? Yes. Yeah, if she if she wants to. Absolutely. Okay. So, you're pro-choice. Um, you're pro choice. Okay. Categorically, you're pro-choice. There's no way around it.

Brian AtlasWhy is it though you say if a man knocks up a woman and maybe she baby traps him, he she Oh, I'm on birth control. I don't want a kid. She lies. Who? Or whatever. She doesn't

Brian Atlaslie. She accidentally gets pregnant. He his intention though was not to have a kid. He doesn't want the responsibility. He doesn't want to be a father. He doesn't want to pay child support for to

Brian Atlashim. You say takes two to tango. Tough luck. Enjoy paying getting financially [ __ ] and paying child support for 18, 20 years, whatever it is. Why do you say that to the man? But there's no

Brian Atlasresponsibility when it comes to the female component of this. No responsibility in terms of Well, you it seems like you're a little more flexible if a woman gets pregnant and you're like, uh, she's not financially

Lauren (Healthcare)ready. Okay, go ahead. Get the abortion. much. I just think that people are going to do it anyways and it's like their karma and like everything has a like karma. What? Yeah. So, like if some a 19-year-old wants to have an abortion,

Lauren (Healthcare)like I think she should be able to do what she wants to do. Okay. Should a 19 should a 19-year-old man Mhm. should a 19-year-old man who doesn't want to have a kid, should he be

Brian Atlasfree of having to pay child support? Huh? Um, no. He should just wear a condom. I don't know. Oh, okay. Okay. So, just to be clear, to men, keep your legs closed. To women, [ __ ] around and

Brian Atlasyou can have an abortion. No, just have an IUD. What? But you do realize there are unwanted pregnancies. Yes. Yes. Okay. But women can escape the responsibility. Men can't. Agreed. Yeah.

Brian AtlasYeah. That's wrong. That That's more unfair to me. I think it is unfair. I agree. Yeah, it is. It is unfair. But why are you prescriptive? Why are you saying, "Okay, tough luck, man. Sucks to be you. You should have thought about

Brian Atlasthat before having sex. You should have kept your legs closed. It's funny how pro-choice women all of a sudden when the woman wants to keep the kid and then the guy doesn't want to be a father, you

Brian Atlasbecome bronze age prolifers and you're like, shouldn't have done that. Should have kept your legs closed. Why is that? Wait, so is your like thing about like

SPEAKER_03having abortions is because if males don't want to have the kids basically, they shouldn't have to pay child support and all that stuff. Is that the main like thing? Is that No, I mean I'm

Brian Atlasmaking a a internal critique of her position. So my my position though in any state where abortion is uh is legal, I think men should be able to escape uh

SPEAKER_03any parental responsibility and any child support responsibility. You agree? But it's never going to [ __ ] happen. Yeah, I agree. But I think that's way better than like being like you can't abort. That's way better. Like just like

SPEAKER_03okay, if she wants to have the kid and take responsibility, then the guy should there should be a thing where he doesn't have to pay child support. But then to to for advocating for this, it's not

Brian Atlasliberals who advocate for it. That would be fair though. That would be equal. But where are all these equal Democrats and liberals advocating for it's there's a specific term it's called legal paternal

SPEAKER_03surrender so men can be like yeah that's way safer than abortion then because right but abortion is legal in in left-leaning and yeah they should they should definitely do that instead of like forcing people to abort you know

SPEAKER_03just like cuz cuz it is the girls like getting I'm just going to say my my biological dad left me and my mom didn't ask my biological dad for a penny he's never paid child Not all women. I know.

Brian AtlasBut I I get it. Some women, they're not going to go after child support. But if they do, there's nothing the men can do about it then. Yeah. Then yeah, there should be 100%. Okay. Uh let's see here.

Brian AtlasWe're going to do here. We have a message coming through. Uh is there anything else though? Like any right that a man has that a woman doesn't? I can't think of anything. I think there's equal rights.

Brian AtlasShowing their nipples. Sure. I actually agree with that. Um, I actually agree with that, but I don't really think that that's uh so funny. It's true though.

Brian AtlasYeah, but I'm looking for something with a bit more gravy toss like, you know, that's not That's fair. Doesn't really seem like the pressing issue, you know. Uh, we have Hack the Planet. Brian, you're a legend for hosting the show. Andrew, this question is for you. Oh,

Brian Atlassorry, man. He left. Um, I just can't get behind the idea of a sky daddy being real. What should I read to change my mind through reason and logic? Uh, so here's what you here's what we can do.

Brian AtlasSky daddy. Got it. Um, if you send me a DM on Instagram, I'll save this message for next time we have Andrew on. Send me a message on Instagram. Just copy and paste it. That message. I'll ask him next time. I don't want you to feel like

Brian Atlaswe screwed you over, but he did have to leave before we could get to it. Super chats are $100 and up, guys. Like the video. Venmo, Cash App, whatever. Pod. Uh, let's see. Daniel, thank for the 10. Brandon, thank for the 10. Vicero, thank

Brian Atlasfor the 10. Appreciate it, guys. Uh, let's see here. Okay, going to blast through these. I think we only should hopefully have a few more. Uh, so going to you. You said minorities can't be racist towards white people. Why is

SPEAKER_03that? I just I just don't think there's a need for any racism to be honest. Sorry, there's what? There's no need for it. I just don't I think everyone has a hard

SPEAKER_03in some aspects of life and there's no need for more. Just stuff like that. What do you mean? I think it's just it's just like Yeah. So your question is u minorities can't attack white people

Brian Atlasright is that is that was that the No minorities can't be racist towards white so for example black person can't be racist towards Yeah that's because I feel like just racism is just no go

Brian Atlasaltogether regardless of white black or something like that simple but so I'm I agree with you racism racism is bad but can white people experience racism? Of

Brian Atlascourse they can. Can a minority be racist towards a white person? I mean, they can, but it's not

Brian Atlasright. Oh, perhaps I maybe the wording here. So, um, so the it's minorities can't be racist towards white people. Yeah, they can't.

Lauren (Healthcare)I just feel like nobody should be racist to anybody. I I think what you're saying like like Yeah, it's wrong. like they shouldn't, you know, but he's saying like like can

SPEAKER_03they yes or no anybody can do anything but I think nobody's just just leave things. Okay. But cuz here you said that might that for example like a black

Brian Atlasperson can't be racist towards white people. Yeah. I just Wait, so I'm Yes or no? Yes, they can't be racist. Wait, so

SPEAKER_03they can't be racist? I mean like towards Yeah. I think that um it's not good to for anybody to be racist whether

Brian AtlasHow do you define can't? Okay. Are you saying like like No, can't as in like they shouldn't. Like I don't think it's it's I don't think they're like No, it's not should. It's can they. Can they? I

SPEAKER_03mean, yeah. Anybody can do anything. I don't get it. No, I'm not saying

Holly (62)what he's saying is the majority that because of racists or different races are supposedly the

Holly (62)minority that um white people uh can't be um racist or are you that that's not

Amanda (Hair)what I'm saying. It's a yes or no question. No, look. No, wait. So, I think by definition Go ahead. No, you go ahead. Go ahead. Confused about the question. Like by definition, I think um

Amanda (Hair)I just I Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. People of color can be prejudiced against like white people, but I think by but racist because racism is

Amanda (Hair)systematic and um there's not a whole system that oppresses white people the way that there is a whole system that oppresses people of color. So, I think the way that you're wording it, can they be racist? No, because there's no

Amanda (Hair)systematic support. But can they be prejudice? Yes. If we're talking about definition, I think that's what I think it's a she's not understanding the question though. And also, you didn't

Amanda (Hair)really indicate that on your own questionnaire, but Well, I didn't because I knew what you were doing with that, but like what was I doing with it?

Amanda (Hair)Um uh well I think the gotcha is like oh like you can't be like be racist like there's prejudices. This is like off language. Like what's the definition of

Amanda (Hair)racism? What's the uh what's the definition what's your definition of racism? Um like being discriminatory against somebody for the color of their race or

Amanda (Hair)the color of their skin. Well, you said there's a systemic, but I I'm pretty sure based off of the definition of racism that it has something to do with like systematic oppression, and that's why you have to

Brian Atlasbe careful with the way that you're wording that. Well, no, mine mine would just be either like a hatred or prejudice towards a racial group. Okay, that's my definition. Then everybody, but some people say I think there's a

Brian Atlasdifferent one. Yeah. Well, the the different one that I hear from wokeis is racism equals prejudice plus power. So, for example, under this definition, white people uh cannot experience

Brian Atlasracism. I disagree with this definition. Can't experience racism from uh minorities, blacks, Latinos, Asians, because the system doesn't support that. That's where that comes from.

Brian AtlasBy the way, Cat, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships. Appreciate it. It's not popping up on my Streamlabs for some reason. Um but so, okay, I'm just This is my sociology degree at work. But

Lauren (Healthcare)is that your definition? But it doesn't have to be systemic to be like racism is not only systemic. Racism is how you interact with someone and there can be a systemic component to it. Um but like

Lauren (Healthcare)it's being prejudice against someone's race just like sexism. Mhm. So by that definition, anyone can be racist towards anyone cuz you know I I mean I didn't I I feel like this is like a dicey

Amanda (Hair)question because I do think that like yeah anyone that's a different color can have like racism against someone of another color but in definition I think it does play into Yeah. But I mean if it

Brian Atlasdepends if you attribute a definition for example uh Amanda people named Amanda are racist.

Brian AtlasThat's not a definition. No, racism is people uh prejudice towards a racial group or hatred towards a racial group and also anybody who's named Amanda is

Amanda (Hair)also a racist. By that definition, you would be a racist, right? But that wouldn't be a definition. That's such a weird hypothetical. That would never be a

Brian Atlasdefinition. But we can but okay so there's but the definition you're suggesting racism equals prejudice plus

Brian Atlaspower why why would that we divert from the established and accepted definition of racism which is just purely is

Amanda (Hair)prejudice like racism itself has to do with power but prejudice does not and I think that's the difference. Wait so you're saying racism has to do with power? Well, I want to know the definition of it because I don't know.

Brian AtlasWell, there's different definitions. Okay. Well, I think the most the most historically accepted version of definition of racism is simply hatred or

Brian Atlasprejudice towards a racial group. Agreed. Yeah. And there's no component of power or systemic power or oppression or anything like that. Okay. Then based off that then like yeah, anybody can be

Brian Atlasright. People are trying to change the definition to racism must in order for something to be racist, it must include a component of power. What does Google say? Huh? What does Google say? Yeah,

Brian Atlaslet's sure. I'll Google it. Google. Uh definition of racism. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people

Brian Atlason the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. So that's racism. Now I've heard from like super uh this prejudice plus power definition.

Brian AtlasBut anyways, uh just going to move it on then. Let's see if there's anything else here. We have h men should pay for first dates. Why?

Lauren (Healthcare)Because if you're Okay. I feel like if a man is asking a girl out and you're asking me out, why aren't you gonna pay for the first date? You're trying to take me out. Like if I say someone, "Hey

Brian Atlasgirl, like let's go out." I'm going to treat them, you know? It's just one of those things. Okay. Yeah. Um Jade, you said you would not date a police

Lauren (Healthcare)officer. Yeah. Just because like the domestic violence statistics with that, like just certain professions, I just try to steer clear from stuff like that. Okay. Like the trauma that they deal with and they bring it home and it's

Brian AtlasWhat do you think about men not wanting to date sex workers? Do you think that's fair? Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay. Cuz everyone has their boundary, like their sexual boundary, their you know. All right. Going here. Uh men should pay

Brian Atlason first dates. I feel like almost everybody said yes to this. Everybody said yes. Men should pay for first dates. Wow. Even Amanda here, the liberal feminist. You guys really just

Amanda (Hair)made all that up. Made what up? Am I coming off as liberal feminist? What are Did you vote Who did you vote for? I That's nobody's business. Okay. Did you vote for Trump? That's nobody's business.

Brian AtlasUh Okay. Why Why should men pay for first aids? Personally, if they don't, I don't respect them. You don't respect them? No. Uh, okay. Why should anybody Why

Lauren (Healthcare)should On the same like token, like if I'm really trying to not go fast, like I don't want them to pay for too much. Like paying for dinner, okay, but like getting you a big gift or a big

Lauren (Healthcare)something, like I don't like to accept that because I feel like it's just a little too much. Teresa, why should men pay for first dates? Same thing as Jade said. If if you're

SPEAKER_03asking me out on a date like and you're trying to take me out, you should pay for it. If I ask Jade, Jade, let's go to dinner, I'mma pay for it. Or I'm going to get you a drink or whatever. But I

Brian AtlasYeah. How many of all the first dates you've ever been on? How many of them were initiated by you? I don't initiate first dates. Isn't that convenient? That's kind of convenient, though. Uh

Brian Atlasmen should pay because men ask me out. I never ask men out.

Brian AtlasBut but so like I would agree here. I would agree with whoever asks should pay under the following conditions. If men and women asked each other

Brian Atlasout 50/50% of the time. That would make sense to me. Okay. Well, sometimes women ask, sometimes men ask.

Brian AtlasBut women don't ask men out. Some Yeah, I Yes, I agree with you. 99% of the time they don't. Why don't we test this out? Uh, of the two guys you've dated, did

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