ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! 62yr Old vs Andrew/Rachel! He Brought His MOM On A Date?! | Dating Talk #239

Date: 2025-04-21

Duration: 8h 23m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Healthcare)>

AAmanda (Hair)>

AAndrew Wilson >

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Lauren (Healthcare)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Chloe Yummy(guest)

SPEAKER_05Amanda (Hair)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Evelyn(guest)

SPEAKER_13Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Rachel Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe's age lie exposed: said 18, actually 19

ControversyALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE: Holly (62) vs Andrew Wilson heated confrontation over gender politics

Key MomentRachel Wilson calls in to confront Holly directly

Key MomentChloe accidentally reveals contractual OnlyFans obligation preventing her from quitting

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Eva, Chloe, Teresa, Lauren, Holly (62), Jade, Amanda, Evelyn.

Muhammad Ali Clip Reaction

Panel watches/reacts to Ali clip on race and women.

OnlyFans Legitimacy

Chloe defends OF. Andrew criticizes.

Self-Rating Looks

Guests rate themselves 1-10.

Chloe Age Lie Revealed

Actually 19, said 18.

Holly vs Andrew Confrontation

Title moment: Holly (62) and Andrew heated exchange over gender politics. Rachel Wilson calls in.

Transcript

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Chloe YummyYeah, like Dubai or anything like that? Um, one time, um, like six months ago in Charlotte, um, I met this guy. He was

Chloe Yummyfrom Dubai and his family was very rich. um owned like a big liquor company and um he texted me on Instagram and he

Chloe Yummyoffered me like seven grand to go out with him um to one of the clubs in Charlotte and I went there with one of my best friends and literally we didn't do anything but have like a normal night

Chloe Yummyand I literally talked to my best friend the whole time and he gave um actually each of us $7,000 in cash but that's my

Brian Atlasonly exchange with a Dubai Okay. 7,000 just Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. No. No. Literally just to make an appearance. Life on easy mode. Um, cool. All right.

Brian AtlasCongrats on the thousand. Uh, okay. I got to do a quick read here. Also, I want to do uh Ivormectton. This Indian tech support. How may I help you? Yo, my girlfriend is suffer effing annoying and

Brian Atlaswon't stop nagging. Have you tried turning her on off again? How do I do that? Literally. Okay. Thank you. Ivormectin cures cancer. Appreciate that. Uh thank you. Thank you. Uh I think he's talking

Brian Atlasabout talking about you. Andrew did make a good point about uh that'd be a good way to just end an argument is just Yeah. Have your girlfriend pass. It's just a built-in factory reset, right?

Andrew WilsonJust like Yep. It's just a built-in Yeah. built-in factory. Oh, kind of. I guess there's a big benefit, too, right? It's like how could a guy ever be bad at sex, right? like you you can't remember

Brian Atlasit, right? It's like how could a guy ever even be bad at it? Yeah. All right, we have uh let's see here another one. Ivormectton cures cancer. Chair too. Hey doc, I pass out every time I have

Brian Atlascarninal relations. It's celiac disease. Yeah, doctor nsis. That shizz is a medical term we call rufiac disease. Okay, chair two, but I'm on o doctor.

Brian AtlasAh, that too. What the [ __ ] Okay, thank you. Uh Ivormectton, appreciate it. And then also guys, just a couple shout shout outs here. Uh Venmo Cash App, whatever pod, 100% of your contribution

Brian Atlasgoes towards the show. YouTube takes 30%. Streamlabs takes like 3 to 4%. Uh Thomas, thank for the five on Cash App. Matt, thank for the five again on Cash App. And thank you for the four on Cash App. Appreciate it, Matt. Thank you. Thank you. And uh guys, if you're

Brian Atlasenjoying the stream so far, like the video. TTS is 100. Reed is a 100. All right, guys. So, uh, was there like

Brian Atlasweird like anything else weird at that party with with Bezos? It wasn't a party. It was literally like only four of us there. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was very like intimate. It was only So, Bezos was

Chloe Yummythere. Jeff Bezos. He wasn't there, but it was his house. Have you met him? No, I I never met him, but only both of his sons. I see. Okay. Um, so they're just weird statues, but

Brian Atlasthey were fine. The suns were cool, right? Yeah. Really cool. Like they didn't start like doing some like child sacrifice ritual like some [ __ ] Mayan

Chloe Yummy[ __ ] you know? No, it was just a feeling of like demonic energy. You felt it? I do. I did. Yeah. Do you feel demonic energy right now? No. Like in here? No. What kind of energy is it

Andrew Wilsonlike? How do you feel demonic energy there but not doing? Like what? Um, I think OAF can be positive and fun.

Andrew WilsonYou think Shaitan wants you to do OAF? You think demons are PL are like, God, you should really stop doing that. Like, honestly,

Andrew WilsonI mean, I think God loves everyone. And that really doesn't answer my question. Sure, God loves Adolf Hitler. I get it. But the question is is like you worried about demonic how do

Andrew Wilsonyou feel demonic energy around a bunch of statues at some rich guy's house? You don't feel any demonic energy doing? That's bizarre to me. I mean I guess

Brian Atlassometimes it can feel bad like I wouldn't say demonic though. Okay. Okay. All right. Um and then I think

Brian Atlasfinal thing for your notes here. Um do you have any plastic surgery? Uh no.

Chloe YummyYou're a [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ] liar. Okay. What do you Come on. What do you have? Um, okay, fine. It's just my boobs. But I don't like saying that they're fake because I love them and they're real to me. I mean, they're on

Brian Atlasmy body, but it's just my boobs. Okay. And like BBL or like any sort of Jenner Kardashian hip thing or what do they do? What is that thing? BBL. Yeah. But like

Brian Atlasis BBL the same as like when they put stuff like it's not the back of the butt, it's like the side of the I mean usually it's a BBL or you could get implants maybe. Do you have that? No,

Brian Atlasbut I kind of want to get like a skinny BBL. Okay. Yeah, but no, not right now. All right, cool. All right. Uh let's see here. We're going to get into, you know,

Brian Atlaswe have a couple reacts I want to do. Why don't we do H? Let me think here. Actually, you know what? Do one more

Brian Atlasnote. Um, before we get into the reactions, yeah, I'll do some more of the show notes. So, uh, I want to go to Lauren. Lauren, you said you were dating yourself. Mhm.

Lauren (Healthcare)Yeah. I mean, that's what I tell guys when I don't want to talk to them, to be honest. They're like, "Hey, you have a boyfriend?" I'm like, "I'm dating myself." Like, cool. Um, in your notes to us, you said you described yourself

Lauren (Healthcare)as corporate. Oh, yeah. What does that mean? Um, I am I work in healthcare technology and Okay. like cubicle like I can type really fast. Got it. You said

Brian Atlasyou're Latina and German. Yeah. Okay. But all American. All right. You're bilingual in what languages? Spanish and English. Spanish. Okay. You describe

Brian Atlasyourself as conservative. Yeah. Um, interesting. Uh do you uh I'm trying to remember. You said you're published

Brian Atlaschemist and author. Mhm. Uh when you said you said you wrote the book, right? Yeah. But you're self-published, right? Yeah. It's like the king direct

Lauren (Healthcare)publishing whatever. Okay. So through an editor. Yeah. But like when I think of published author Mhm. Like I could go publish a book. Yeah. Everyone could. Absolutely. It was like, "Hey, I should

Lauren (Healthcare)write you know people claim they're a model." It's like someone took a iPhone photo of you. No, but I mean I did get the chemistry one published. Yeah. No, that one's actually cooler in my

Lauren (Healthcare)opinion. Um, sure. Uh, you said that uh you describe yourself as bipolar. Yes. Um, so I am bipolar. My company is Crazy Good. My book is called Crazy

Lauren (Healthcare)Good. It's available on Amazon. It's not that great probably because it's just self-published, you know. I'm just kidding. Are you There's different There's bipolar one, bipolar two. Which one? Yes, I'm bipolar one.

Lauren (Healthcare)What? So, explain that. What is What is that? So, for those of you that don't know, bipolar disorder is a mood disorder where you can fluctuate from very lows into very highs. And depending if you have bipolar one or bipolar 2,

Lauren (Healthcare)the difference is that bipolar one, you go to full mania, which can be very destructive. And then bipolar two, you do like more like hypomomania. So women normally have more depressive episodes

Lauren (Healthcare)when they have bipolar disorder, but I am blessed to have not really blessed, but I have more manic episodes. And so my book is really more like a little memoir that kind of compiles some of

Brian Atlasthose really insane moments of my life and kind of little perspective on it. Do you take medication every day? Um, multiple medications? Yes. Okay. And how uh actually really quick for the whole

Andrew Wilsonpanel, does anybody else here have bipolar, BPD, APD, ASPD? Anybody here take any other medication

Andrew Wilsonfor what would be considered as mental illness? I it

Lauren (Healthcare)depression. None of that. Okay. All right. And uh let's see. [Music] Um you go to therapy for it or not? Um, not therapy too much. I used to, but

Brian Atlasthey're kind of annoying sometimes. I think that a lot of therapists are just breeding narcissists. Sure. Uh, you said a question for you on this and maybe the rest of the panel can weigh in. Do you think actually before I do that, uh, in

Lauren (Healthcare)a relationship, how does your bipolar manifest itself if it does? Um, so I'm very loyal. I've never cheated on anyone, never done any of that. But my first my 5-year relationship um ended

Lauren (Healthcare)when I was diagnosed. So, it was very very terrible because I didn't know what bipolar disorder was and I literally lost my mind doing research in a laboratory and then it was it was really

Lauren (Healthcare)intense. You can read about it in my book. Anyways, um so he broke up with me then and I think I also told you a little bit on my little notes that at one point I

Lauren (Healthcare)gave an ex $90,000. So, you know, some of the symptoms, you know, people will have like a cancer and it'll be like, "Oh, you have a tumor. My my symptom is I just spend all my money."

Brian AtlasOkay, that's really fun. Uh, question for you and I guess the rest of the panel. Uh, do you think it's wrong for a man to not want to date you or another woman because she is bipolar or suffers from Well, let's just keep it a bipolar.

Lauren (Healthcare)I guess I, you know, I could, if it's unmanaged, like, yeah, don't date someone that's unmanaged. Yeah. Let's just say like just they blanket don't want to date somebody who's bipolar.

Lauren (Healthcare)There's people I've had this argument with a geneticist where he was actually saying that you needed to, you know, like eugenics get rid of people with mental disorders. Okay. I'm not really talking about that, but Well, no, because if you don't want to be with

Lauren (Healthcare)them, you don't want to reproduce with them, and so you don't continue the bloodline of So, you think it's eugenics for a guy to not want to date somebody who has bipolar disorder? No. No. There there's people that believe that. I'm just saying like if if that's your how

Brian Atlasyou feel like that's you can do that like Okay. Yeah. But I do think like Yeah. You think it's wrong though? Like do you think it's unfair or uh I don't

Lauren (Healthcare)know. No, not really. I mean everyone decides what they want to do. And I do believe that unmanaged and people that are not accountable for their mental illness, they are menace to society most

Brian Atlasof the times. Sure. So, uh, you described yourself as opinionated on what? Um, most things. Most things. Everything. Okay. We'll get into it tonight then. Uh, so going to the story,

Lauren (Healthcare)you said you gave $90,000. Yeah. To a boyfriend. Uhhuh. Was that the five year? No. No. No. How long were you guys dating? Um, we were

Lauren (Healthcare)living together. We We were together I think a total of nine months. But, um, yeah. So, that was interesting. Um, it was an accident kind of, but he told he had a company and he was a CEO. So, he

Lauren (Healthcare)was like, "If you give me your money, then I'll put it into my business and I'll make more money and it'll be fun." And I said, "Okay." So, then I just wired him 90K. So, he like scammed you. Huh. Well, we actually had a promisory

Lauren (Healthcare)note, so then I got to sue him. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, wait, but was it an investment in the company? No, he actually didn't put it in the company. I think what he did,

Lauren (Healthcare)and I can't prove this, but we went on like very extravagant like trips. I think he was actually paying for stuff to love bomb me with my money. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Um,

Lauren (Healthcare)but I we we had some awesome trips, man. Like Mexico City, Sedona, Atlantic City, DC, you know, it was fun. So, but I mean I get that he didn't use it for the

Brian Atlasbusiness, but the nature of the arrangement between the two of you was you were essentially investing in his business. Is that that was but he didn't put it in his business, but that was the idea was essentially was there a written

Lauren (Healthcare)agreement or um it was just a promisory note that I was letting him borrow 90k. What did the what did the note say? It it said that he could that I was giving him 90K and that I would once I moved

Lauren (Healthcare)out, if I moved out, he had to give it to me 30 days after I moved out. And he ended up over a course of um maybe six or seven months ended up giving me like

Lauren (Healthcare)85% of it back before before or after the lawsuit. Um that during the lawsuit because he wasn't going to give it back to me unless I got him with the lawyer.

Brian AtlasSo did you get all of it back? almost 85% about it. Oh, okay. So, you did get a judgment against him. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I had a promisory note, so it was just Well, Right. But Okay. So, you had

Lauren (Healthcare)the promisatory note, but he wasn't paying it. So, then you had to go to court to file a lawsuit. No, no, he started paying it, but he just started paying it really small chunks. And so, then the lawyer was saying that because he was still making the attempt to pay

Lauren (Healthcare)it, like he couldn't really like go further with it. So, I don't know. I paid a bunch of lawyer fees. So, did you file a lawsuit? I got the lawyer to I serve him. Is that the word? I don't

Brian Atlasknow. So, a lawsuit was filed. Yeah. Okay. Was it So, you you dismissed it then?

Lauren (Healthcare)What do you mean by dismissed? Well, you filed the lawsuit because he wasn't paying you. Then he started paying you. Yeah. So, did you uh you can like dismiss a case? Yeah. I It wasn't

Brian AtlasWe didn't go to court. Like we were okay talking He was talking to my lawyer through it and paying me very So he paid most of it back. Okay. It wasn't just a gift. You didn't gift him 90,000. Yeah.

Lauren (Healthcare)But he definitely lied about a lot of things. And then unfortunately since I I got really sick during that time as well, which is the reason that he got the money. Um and so then even when he

Lauren (Healthcare)gave it back to me, I did some really careless things and I gave 30,000 to an orphanage in Nigeria. So that was so

Lauren (Healthcare)30,000 Nigeria. Yeah. I don't know, man. Was it was it an actual orphanage in Nigeria or I don't I can't I don't know the answer. Or was it one of those kings? It was it was Yeah, it was kind

Lauren (Healthcare)of wild. Um so yeah, come be my queen. Okay. Um and uh trying to think

Lauren (Healthcare)here. Was it a Nigerian prince or something? Probably. I don't even really remember. Um cuz when you go like so into mania like you actually forget

Lauren (Healthcare)stuff like you kind of black out because of the trauma like your brain's like ah can't handle this and so it's kind of it's kind of crazy. You uh also wrote in your notes here you wanted to speak about cultural differences in

Lauren (Healthcare)relationships. Yes. Yeah. So were you dating a Nigerian? No, I was dating a Mongolian. Yeah. just is that the only one that pertain to cultural differences? No, actually it's more so

Lauren (Healthcare)for me because I'm bicultural. Um, so I was actually raised Mexican. I lived in Mexico for a little bit. Um, I do speak Spanish. I feel weird just speaking Spanish, but I know you speak Spanish,

Lauren (Healthcare)but um, and so I think it's interesting because in cultural like culturally there's differences in like what the gender roles are supposed to be like.

Lauren (Healthcare)And I came from a very like traditional like Mexican there the the wife is at home and the the um the dad is the bread winner. And so I just think that also

Lauren (Healthcare)kind of played out in some of my relationships when like they expected something specific out of a relationship just because of their culture. So did like the Mongolian and what I

Andrew Wilsondon't know. Huh? Yeah. Like what? Like what? like Mongolian talking about Catholic patriarchy from the Mexican perspective, right? So they have a

Andrew Wilsonstrong patriarchal society because they it's informed deeply by Catholicism. Yep. So it's it's very patriarchal. I get that. But Mongolians are really patriarchal, too. So like it's like

Lauren (Healthcare)what's so what's the thing you're pointing to here? Well, I'm just saying I think that's interesting. I wanted to talk about it. Like what is everyone's experiences with different cultures and how do they clash? because that was just kind of what I wanted to talk about in a

Lauren (Healthcare)sense. I don't know. Yeah. What were yours? What were my what? My my cultural differences.

Lauren (Healthcare)Yeah. Yeah. These experiences that you're talking about that you want to talk about. Yeah. Um well I mean just in terms of like the culture like it just

Lauren (Healthcare)kind of the basis of culture determines you know how you perceive the world and how like your mate and everything like that. So um for me I've seen like I

Brian Atlasdon't have like a specific thing on it. I just you know I don't know I don't have like something juicy. Sorry. Okay then I'll move it on. You said uh dating is difficult because women entered the workforce. What do you mean? Um, I think

Lauren (Healthcare)that men enjoy providing because it's kind of like a masculine thing that happens to men. I think they like providing. I

Lauren (Healthcare)think that when the women join the workforce, there is now like a competition with men and I think that that demasculinizes men and I also think

Lauren (Healthcare)that it makes the dating pool of high value men to be smaller because they're getting like pushed out by like high achieving women. And then also you get women, which sometimes I do this because

Lauren (Healthcare)I do like I have a career and all that stuff where you kind of just you're like, "Oh, I'm the boss, but I don't want to be the boss." And I think that's maybe the cultural problem with me is

Lauren (Healthcare)that I want to be like traditional Mexican, but then at like like but how I live my life is like I wrench it, you know? And so maybe that's what I was

SPEAKER_03trying to get at. Okay. Anybody else want to weigh in on that? Yeah, I somewhat agree to that in in many circumstances in terms of like

SPEAKER_03you're independent more and it's not like you want to be cuz you're forced into it probably. But it's funny because like you know like your culture like you said Mexican culture it's like men

SPEAKER_03provide and women like but is that like your upbringing wise did you like did you not have like a father figure there or No. No. My parents have been married 40 years. Mhm. So you being

Lauren (Healthcare)overachieving, is that just a you thing or like you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I mean my sister and my mom are both um homemakers and um I would love to do that but I I just I got forced into

Lauren (Healthcare)working. The other thing that happened when women entered the workforce is that wages didn't go up because there was a larger supply of workers.

Lauren (Healthcare)So yeah, we should just go back to cooking. But the thing is because um because I am a Mexican woman in my core, like I do love cooking and like if someone comes over I you know I host and

Lauren (Healthcare)I would love to just make sandwiches every day and tend to some plants. No, I kind of agree. Why don't you why don't you move to Mexico? I I mean I that's

Lauren (Healthcare)nice. You know, I love Mexico. I have dual citizenship. Like I I love Mexico. I mean it seems like that would solve your issue, right? I don't think I have that big of an

Andrew Wilsonissue. Oh, I mean it sounded like you were saying that there's an issue where you feel like uh the men who are around you are demasculine or they're not they don't have feelings of masculinity

Lauren (Healthcare)because um because you're like an overachieving, you know, working girl or something. No, not me specifically. I think just as a highlevel like concept like what do y'all think? Have you I

Holly (62)think um are you in California? Did you say um I live in Texas right now. Well, Texas, you're going to find some manly men, you know, traditional guys. You

Holly (62)know what? Get with the Patriots. Those dudes have balls. All right. The the guys that skip around here in

Holly (62)California, it's grim. Seriously, it it's none of this, especially right now. It's not uh it's not the I have the same problem

Holly (62)because I have my own business, you know, have my whole life. But the thing is there are manly men out there that appreciate it and they want to be a man. And you feel sexier with men that pay

Holly (62)things, that do things, that take the man role, and you just calm yourself down a little bit. Let them talk. Let them shine. Be their cheerleader. And screw your career. Don't even talk about

Amanda (Hair)it. Don't say how much money you have in the bank. It's They don't need to know. That's top secret. Yeah. I don't think men care how successful we are. Like I think women have adopted like when we go

Amanda (Hair)into dating where like we're trying to be like, "Oh, I've accomplished this and I've done this and I've done that." They don't care. Exactly. They don't care. They want to be the winner. They want to know that they're safe with you emotionally. And I feel like if we show

Amanda (Hair)that like, oh, we're like so bad and we do all these things and we're so independent and then it's so aggressive and it's so masculine and it's like we can be that in our business, but like they want to feel safe that we're not

Lauren (Healthcare)going to like do that to them like on a daily basis. What's feminine? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like you can have all those things. Sexy. Exactly. I dated this guy and we broke up and at the end

Lauren (Healthcare)he was like, "Okay, go miss independent woman." didn't like that. That was like his biggest insult to me. And he was masculine, too. But that was like a big push. The secure guys don't care. They're going to be happy for you. I

Lauren (Healthcare)want I would love to like just tend my animals and, you know, feed people and make everything pretty, but then you just do that. No. Well,

Holly (62)money tell people what to do. You play the mystery with the man. You don't let him know. You don't need to pump your own ego, Random. You don't. Yeah. Agree. You just Yeah. You go, "Sweetheart, how can I rock your world?" That's all they

Lauren (Healthcare)want to know. Do you feel like you've been the provider in majority of your relationships in the past? Oh, no. Um, yeah. My last relationship, uh, he was 10 years younger than me and I was his sugar mama 100%.

Lauren (Healthcare)Also, the problem like if you're dating younger men, I No, that's the only younger men I've ever been with. And I went from like CEO, he took me out of the job force. I was like doing that and

SPEAKER_03then all of a sudden I went to 10 years younger. So, did your 10 or the younger boyfriend you had, did he feel emasculated the fact that you were the bread winner? Did he feel insecure? I

Lauren (Healthcare)think he liked it. And what a [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What a [ __ ] I don't know. I think Well, it was like I actually really like taking care of people, too. Like I give people gifts. I

Andrew Wilsongive everyone a little present. But when do you get to be taken care of? Yeah, I know. I I mean, I take care of myself, too, which is Well, I mean, what are you guys doing to deserve to get taken care of? That's the question. Well, if you be a good girlfriend, I feel like it's like

SPEAKER_03a mutual give and take. What does that mean? A good girlfriend is like um being able to like I wake up every morning and not like not like thinking this first thing, but when you wake up, you generally want to do the best for your

SPEAKER_03partner and you think about ways to make them happy and ways that you can just take care of them. And I feel like a lot of men these days, they don't really think that perhaps, you know, not not

SPEAKER_03like actively at least. Like if you do ask a guy like um what do you like about me? Um are they going to say the things you do for them or the or who you are as like a person? But in terms of like um

SPEAKER_03the masculinity thing um it does like build when you are the one doing everything and you want someone to take care of you and stuff which is very valid but at the same time like you want

SPEAKER_03to give them the opportunity to. I feel like too a lot of times like we take care of things to the point where like we don't give them the opportunity sometimes. Well, I I take care of people too much and that's when I forget about myself. What do you take care of? Like

Andrew Wilsonwhat do you take care of that they're not getting the opportunity to take care of? Are you fixing the apartment? Like what do you what do you do? What men do that like nowadays? Like how much men can actually don't do that? Women don't do [ __ ] when it comes to building. They

SPEAKER_03don't do anything. That's because men and women have like different kind of roles. They do. We're equal in many senses, but we're just like we're feminine masculinity. There's just two different like sectors to that. I feel

SPEAKER_03like like um I think yeah men should be manly men and women women should be feminine and I think that's how like a good relationship is. There's just a balance of two you know there's just

SPEAKER_03different roles. I feel like like um why do most men want a woman like as like as a wife like genuinely want a woman? They want someone who can make them feel safe like you said take care of them and also

SPEAKER_03um you know just do the things that they can't really do for themselves. Like a lot of times in cultural differences especially like for masculinity like macho what's it called like when the Mexican macho machismos like they they

SPEAKER_03are like heavily in that mindset and sometimes they need like a feminine energy in it. It's just there's different roles and I I agree with you that what do women do to deserve a a masculine man? And that's like why

Lauren (Healthcare)relationships work when there's just two when there's two people working. The way I like give myself to partner is by knowing their preferences. Like I like to know like how they like their eggs

Lauren (Healthcare)made. Like I and I love to cook. I love to cook. Um and so that's actually like how one of my love languages is is to like understand like everything you hate and everything you like and then just cater to you in at all moments.

SPEAKER_03Consideration is the purest form of love. Yeah. It's just the little things that you take note of that make them feel like they're being taken care of. But everyone despite gender have different preferences because of the way

SPEAKER_03they're raised and like different things they go through in life makes them need different things. Like for us since we have to grow up like taking care of things, we do want someone who can take care of us, you know, and it's not like

SPEAKER_03I have to always ask you for things, but it's just like a good person observes you. When they love you, they observe you. They know you enough to be like, "Oh, I don't have to like ask her, do you want me to clean the house?" Like if

SPEAKER_03it's dirty, you should probably like do it, too. Or Can I get some money so I can hire somebody to clean the house? Oh yeah. Like I just like just certain things I feel and like there's rich people who like hire people to do it. If they have a big house, valid, but if you

Lauren (Healthcare)have a small house and it's just it's not necessary. Just different things like that. I feel like it's I get cleaning ladies cuz they're become my friends. All right. If you're supporting like you're supporting they're my

Lauren (Healthcare)friends. When I moved from California, my cleaning lady and I cried together. You build relationships. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's what I think about like male and females and things that don't

SPEAKER_03work out typically. Like I grew up and I don't think I've ever gotten men guys my age like as meow and it's because like I grew up and I had to like work I work

SPEAKER_03started working around 15 and I had that grind and I start I stopped socializing with people a lot because I focused on work and I didn't really have friends. I never really partied or anything. And people see that like you have that

SPEAKER_03energy and they don't really go to you because they're not ready for like commitment of course and then or whatever you're on. They want to go do other things when they're young. You know what I mean? I feel like I got tricked by modern feminism and they were

SPEAKER_03like you should work really hard and just do your career. And I did it and I did it and I'm here and I'm like wait. I agree. And like if you want a man who's like stable and has money, you're probably like a gold digger. Like when I was young, I was like, "Okay, it's like

SPEAKER_03shallow to think these things." But now, like after my first relationship, I'm like, it's it's honestly important for a man to have drive cuz if I have drive and then they don't, it's like I can't I can't be a babysitter and take care of

Holly (62)like myself and like you. So, wear the pants. I rather be alone. Yeah. Truly. And they don't even they just need to be like achieving, you

Holly (62)know, to an extent. I was a hustler from the beginning and guys had nothing to offer nor did they want to did they want to work. They didn't want to do anything. It's like they and I'm

Holly (62)thinking, how am I going to own a home by myself if I don't have a partner? Uhhuh. And my sisters that were married just said, "Keep working. Keep doing it." Yeah. And then I'd meet guys that

Holly (62)would go, "I got to take you down a peg or two." And then you don't actually like like them like them or what? No, I liked them. And I told my sister, he just said he's got to take me down a peg

Holly (62)or two. She goes, "That's not good." And I'm going, "This dude kept circling my life to see how much better off I was. He'd come over to check out to see what

Holly (62)I'd done to my place." And I'm thinking, dude, I could buy or sell, you loser, and look what you've done. I didn't even like associate with those people.

Holly (62)Hello. Why you kept circling around? And I'd say over. Mhm. Next over. Yeah. Try not to bang on the table, please. Oh,

SPEAKER_08sorry. We have a message coming through. Anal Skywalker donated $200. These girls are so delusional. Oh. Oh, they're delusional. More times than

SPEAKER_08a yellowite. Ladies, these days expect to be treated like a queen, but have taken more loads than a washing machine. Like, that's wild to say. That's some Shakespeare. Wild to say Shakespeare. You know, like when before I came on

SPEAKER_03this podcast, people were like, "Oh my god, they do shit." What a comment. Oh, we don't [ __ ] on women. But it's wild to comment. Yeah, it's like wild to say this. I I feel like men who say this never had a good woman because they're

SPEAKER_03not good men. If you're a profile picture, you will attract good women or like you would have the standard to have good women. But if you're like a man who just takes what they get, that that's just what you're going to get. That's really bizarre and self-contradictory.

Andrew WilsonSo it seems to me like men who say well I have standards and I'm able to spot when that's good then like why would they Hang on hang on hang on let me finish I didn't interrupt your paddle at

Andrew Wilsonall. Oh when when I think if a guy can make a determination very quickly uh based on what women are saying what their value is that that's the ultimate sign of security. I don't know like your

Andrew Wilsonstatement here is self-contradictory. Ah they've just never had a good woman. It's like, no, I think probably they have had good women and that is where they are making the judgment in standard for women who are not good. Right. That makes way more sense to me. No, that's

SPEAKER_03valid. Of course. That's valid. Of course, but what they're saying straight up is assuming who we are. I was going to say cuz they said like they've been ran through more than a washing machine washing machine or through a yellow light. So that is just an assumption.

Andrew WilsonLike how do you know that? Can you see their profile picture? Well, okay, hang on. Hang on. I think that that's fair. I think that it's fair for you to say like how would you ever be able to ascertain this. Right. Right. However, I think you

Andrew Wilsonwould have to agree with me that people the reason stereotypes exist is because a lot of times they're true. So let's take for instance chair 2. Do you think people might have a preconceived notion

Andrew Wilsonthat perhaps chair 2 might be oh I don't know something akin to perhaps a sex worker or something like that just by looking at her? I think the odds are pretty high that they would. Do you

Andrew Wilsonthink that they would be being unreasonable or insane or in some way unjust for making that determination? I don't think so. Based on how based on how women carry themselves, just like with men,

Andrew Wilsonyou can tell a lot about the confidence of a man by how he carries himself and you can tell a lot about how a woman is by the way she dresses and by the way she presents herself. Right. Agreed. And

SPEAKER_03a lot of times, oh, for example, that man, um, he's like assuming all women just because of like one particular subgroup of women is like kind of in a in a sense being stereotypical and like not racist, but it's just like you're

SPEAKER_03assuming a whole thing. I feel like to be just a decent person wouldn't assume a whole subgroup based on just only fans or like corn people, you know? There's just so much variety. What are you

Andrew Wilsontalking about? Like why? Listen, why would you like a whole bunch of isn't that we make these kind of presuppositions when we're meeting people. It's it's the defense mechanism that's built into us for survival. But

Andrew Wilsonwhy are you defending like the reason the reason that we have to make and ascertain judgments about people within seconds is what keeps you alive. For instance, if I'm walking down the street and a guy has a crowbar in his hand, a

Andrew Wilsonblack ski mask on, I'm probably going to avoid him, right? Or am I judging the entire group of people with crowbars and black ski masks when I do that? Yeah, I don't know. Probably. But you know what? I probably should. Hey, I probably

Andrew Wilsonshould. It's probably smart to do. So, it's like no, I I think I think it's fine to kind of make some presuppositions about people as far as a survival mechanism because uh that's how

SPEAKER_03we live. That's how we operate. We have to operate that way. Yeah. I guess it's just different between men and women because for me, I never assume what people do. Obviously, you can make assumptions, but to directly correlate,

SPEAKER_03that's just I don't think I mean for like with the crowbar, then yeah. But if we're just a woman dressed like like normal, then you're just assuming things that's like that's inappropriate as well. I feel like but one thing that's kind of interesting is if someone says

Lauren (Healthcare)something and it's not true, then you don't get offended by it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not offended, but it's just like, you know, you know, like if someone's like, "Hey, you're a washer machine." Yeah. Like all of us like, "Okay." Yeah.

Brian AtlasCool. So, what you guys are saying though, his name, his username is Anal Skywalker. You guys want to see a photo of him? Somebody said that? Yeah, I do. You want a photo of him? All right. All right, if you're still watching, uh, you're you can send one in, I guess. We

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Brian Atlaswhat? Here, why don't we do this? We're gonna get into our first react. I think it's maybe topical uh just off the conversation we just did. We're going to uh do the Muhammad Ali uh video reaction. So, if you could get that

Brian Atlaspulled up and then uh guys, if you're enjoying stream, kindly like the video and hide the TTS thing there in the corner. All right. So, uh this is an interview

Brian AtlasMuhammad Ali did and we're going to react to it. So, pay attention and uh go ahead and play it. Scuffed. Okay. What's wrong with with miniskirts? What's wrong with with with

Brian Atlashot pants? I mean, well, see, we Wait, wait, wait, wait. Pause pause it. Pause it. Uh, hit CC there in the corner on YouTube. Let's put on closed captioning. Um, just start it from the beginning. It's a little low. What's wrong with

SPEAKER_01with miniskirts? What's wrong with with with hot pants? I mean, well, see, we we this is a European design thing. And but righteous people, you go to Saudi Arabia and tell a woman to put on miniskirts.

SPEAKER_01Go to uh Zire, Africa, and have the women put on short dresses. they'd be fine or locked up. Go to uh Pakistan or go go to all throughout black Islamic

SPEAKER_01Muslim countries. Number one, I have a wife and she's walking around the skirt up to here and then what's happening? Well, why do I want everybody to see her? What's a man? I mean, people looking and we winking, they lusting for all kind of freaks and and no good

SPEAKER_01people on the streets. Why I want my wife, she can't bend over because the panties show off the wind blow heart show behind cows and animals and mules. Human beings don't walk out. Savage is walking around with the behinds out. And

SPEAKER_01my wife's behind ain't for every man to look at. You understand? So it makes a lot of sense. So how can I protect my woman if I'm walking down the street she's half naked and some sadness run up and grab her? Hell, I shouldn't have put out there. If I got merchandise I want

SPEAKER_01to sell, I put on put in the window for you to see. So if I want my wife, why don't anybody see my wife? What's private? What's mine? Everybody looking at her. What you mean? What's wrong with it? How can you have a wife or somebody

SPEAKER_01you love? Anything God made precious, he nature hides it. You cannot find diamonds easy. You have to dig and dig and dig. Man got to work to clean them. You cannot You cannot find, listen, and

SPEAKER_01you cannot find gold. Everything God made valuable, he made it hard to get. Pearls, rubies, and ain't my oil. You have to dig and halftime it don't strike. Everything God created that was valuable, he made it hard to get to.

SPEAKER_01Ain't my woman more important than some diamonds and some oil and some gold. [ __ ] this guy. My sons and daughters, why should she walk around all nude in all of these designed clothes? Her breast is out. She's on the beach wearing clothes that

SPEAKER_01show more than her panties when she go to bed. That's right. People don't just might as well come out with a bazer on and her panties. She'd be more covered up than she do in the European style with just something covering up her

SPEAKER_01nipple and just a little OG string over and she's walking out on the beach naked. He's a savages. I I'm going have my daughter, my wife, and my woman walking around for her man. Oo, look how

Brian Atlasdo Boy get to her and what I want that for. She's mine. What you mean? What's wrong with walking around? Okay. You had a You had a really strong reaction to that. Oh, it's triggering. You You did

Brian Atlasthat. It's [ __ ] triggering. What What's What's your reaction there? He just looks like an insecure little [ __ ] that can't handle a baddy. Wait, hold on. You know who that is though, right? Muhammad Ali. Now I do. Apparently world

Brian Atlaslike championship boxer. He's a little [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] who he is. He's awesome. Um, so but why why does that I guess upset you? Well, it's like if you're with a beautiful woman, other

SPEAKER_03people look, who gives a [ __ ] Yeah, my girl's hot. Hype her up. Gas her up. Yeah, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Who here agrees with her? Oh, no. I said I

Chloe Yummyagree a little bit with the video. You agree with him? What about you? Um, I don't agree with him. Um, but I had a question. like you you agree with what

Lauren (Healthcare)he's saying to an extent, right? I agree that like if a woman's beautiful, people are going to look at her if she's modest or not, like in in general. So if you're

Lauren (Healthcare)beautiful, like why do you have to overly show it? And I personally like to feel like protected by my man. And so I wouldn't dress scandalously with a man personally. But I feel like you're

Chloe Yummydressed like a little scandalous. I mean, obviously I'm very scandalous, too, but like you have really short shorts on and your boobs are out. Well, he was also talking about marriage and like being in a committed relationship.

SPEAKER_03And I think that that's like a huge difference. I I agree with that. She's in a relationship with herself after all. So, you go wherever you want. I mean, if I like to dress sexy, it makes me happy.

SPEAKER_03I don't do it to get attention. I do it because it makes me feel good about myself and I feel like my partner should be celebrating me if I'm happy. Whatever makes me happy and if I like to dress

Brian Atlaslike that, it is what it is. I think whatever makes you happy. I think that Hold on. Can I Can I have you scoot your microphone to the edge of the table? Like kind of pull it. Um here,

Holly (62)let's go around the table, get people's reactions. I'm all for Muhammad Ali what he said. I don't want a Kanye West that uh parades his wife out naked in front

Holly (62)of It's like what? How humiliating for her as though she's just trash. I love the protectiveness of a man that he loves. He wants to cherish her. I think

SPEAKER_03it's great. I love him. Your reaction? Yeah, I don't agree with him not wanting his person to wear a not to not wear a bikini at the beach like it's the beach. But I do understand why he wouldn't want

SPEAKER_03his wife showing certain intimate parts of her body like in public because that's his wife. But that also comes with understanding your person before you get married. What about you? Yeah, I would say the same thing. I think cuz he is talking about being in a committed

Amanda (Hair)relationship. But if I like when you're single and doing whatever, I don't think that's that big of a deal. But I think it is a red flag when someone's in a relationship and then their partner is dressed a certain way. It kind of shows that there's like an opening in the

Amanda (Hair)relationship and maybe it's not as solid in my opinion. But I do think anyone should be able to wear whatever they want. But in that case, it would kind of be like a red flag. Okay. Your thoughts?

EvelynI'm like 50/50 uh what he was saying because I think you we are independent. I mean you as a woman or as a guy, you have your rights to dress up as you want

Evelynand no one has the right to tell you how you should go out from your house. Even if it's your boyfriend, your husband, your daughter, your son, doesn't matter. So I think I understand his point of

Evelynview and I do believe there are a lot of women outside thinking the way how he is thinking and he will find that girl. I mean he will find it because we are so different. But I think at the same time

Evelynhe has to respect if his or her partner doesn't want to dress up how he wanted to. It's fine. I mean we need to respect each other. I think respect is Kanye

EvelynWest. Yeah. But I think in that case she likes it. She wanted to. She's doing it. So why? Question. Although I don't know. I don't know if she's want to do it.

Brian AtlasYeah. I don't know about that. She did that many times. So wait, so just question for you really quick and then I know Andrew wants to weigh in, but you said that uh a boyfriend or

Brian Atlashusband should not be able to tell their girlfriend or wife how to dress. Yeah. Okay. But so are you saying that it's pretty much there's no boundaries or there's no uh influence that someone can

Brian Atlashave in a relationship? Like you'd be you wouldn't I mean there's a different dynamic here when it comes to like more traditional relationships if there's a exactly uh submissive dynamic where can

Brian Atlasa woman dictate to a man what what to do? But you think a man and his his girlfriend or wife's about to go out wearing like lingerie and he's like I don't want you to wear that. That's crazy. You don't think he can dictate

Evelynthat to her? They can have the discussion, but he has no right to say what he wants, what she wants to weigh. Okay, but how about this? So, I guess he can't force her to do it, but

Holly (62)he can also say, "Okay, well, this relationship's over. They should have the same moral code." Huh? The same moral code. Wait. So, and

Brian Atlasalso to you, like if your boyfriend was wearing like something totally inappropriate to go out to say like a dinner, like a family dinner, and he wanted to wear, I mean, it's kind of different between men and women just

Brian Atlasbecause of what we're allowed to, but it just wasn't he wasn't dressed well enough. He's not like his balls aren't hanging out or some [ __ ] but I don't know, whatever. Uh, he's wearing like shorts and a tank top. You wouldn't say

Evelynanything to your You're not wearing that to the dinner. You wouldn't say anything. I've been there. I've been in that situation and I'd say I said everything but at the end it's up to him. I cannot say anything. I will go out with him anyways. I cannot say okay

Brian Atlaswe broke we we break up right now or you are not going with me. I mean so you're you're saying this was the extent of the conversation. Hey boyfriend, can you change into something else? And he said

Evelynno and that was the end of the conversation. We go out anyways. I mean but does the conversation end there or are you like you really can't wear that? Uh I will not keep pushing the other

Evelynperson to change or to wear whatever I want because I think everyone should decide what you want to wear and how people and how you want to be um watching but the other people like no I

Evelynwant to dress up like this and I want people watch me with this. So I think yeah what what if your boyfriend or husband wanted to wear a dress a pink dress out with you somewhere? Would you

Brian Atlaslive your best life have a [ __ ] ball? Okay. Um, you know what? Uh, before I have Andrew weigh in here, do you have any final any other thoughts on this?

SPEAKER_03I think she does. Okay. Oh, I do. Okay. First, I think it's good to mention that there's a big cultural difference in terms of clothing and style between America and like everywhere else in the

SPEAKER_03world. I think it's very valid. Uh, but like yeah, he has different traditions rooted in him though. Of course, cuz Sure. And it's also from that probably from the 70s or ' 80s. Yeah, of course. And then I think it's very valid for him to think that. But of course, he's

SPEAKER_03talking about what he likes. And I think it's also valid as a mother, as like um um a wife to not wear I mean minikrt is like is kind of not necessary in my

SPEAKER_03opinion. And I think it is important to discuss those things. Like I wouldn't go out. I always ask my boyfriend for his opinion for what I wear. It's cuz like I want to look good for him. Of course, I

SPEAKER_03want to look good in general for myself, but he is like my boyfriend, you know, and I do do it for him, too. But, um, I think what he said is valid to many extents. It's just, um, yeah, many extents. I think it's the way you go

SPEAKER_03about it, too, cuz it's one thing to communicate, hey, like you wearing this makes me uncomfortable versus take this [ __ ] over and like, you know what I'm saying? Relationship, just have respect. Like, if he doesn't want me to wear something cuz like this and there's just occasions you wear certain things. The

Chloe Yummybeach in California. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then like if you're in the streets wearing a bikini, then it's like uh no. Can I say something? Because um literally like my whole Instagram is

Chloe Yummyjust me in a bikini. So, I I really like personally showing off my body because I'm very confident in myself and like I

Chloe Yummythink that that's like what's most beautiful about myself and like how I express myself is with like costumes and very like provocative clothes and it

Chloe Yummyjust makes me feel really pretty. And for some reason, this is probably like my own issue, but anytime like I'm very conservative and like completely covered

Chloe Yummyup, I literally feel so ugly. And I'm not sure why I'm like that, but I really do like feel so ugly like if I'm not like showing up. And then going back to

SPEAKER_03you, uh you said I think you said you think men are insecure. Is that Well, to me it's like when you're being controlling, okay, don't tell your girl what to wear. You can voice your concern how it makes

SPEAKER_03you feel like it makes me feel uncomfortable for you to wear that and she'll get to decide how she acts according to what his feelings. So, do you believe in like 50/50 relationships?

SPEAKER_03If it works for you, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. If it works for you, it works for you. Yeah. What about you? Uh, I've been in different scenarios. Like, I've been the provider, but I've also

Brian Atlasbeen the girl that's been taken care of. I've had I've been on both ends of the spectrum. Okay. But what about um I mean do you in terms of decision- making in a relationship? You want it to

SPEAKER_03be 50/50? Do you want a guy who's a leader? What do you you like? What's the dynamic that you prefer? I mean, I like when the man takes a lead, but I also like it when he

Evelyngives me an opportunity to lead for certain situations. It it just depends. I'm sorry. Why you say when he gives me the lead like the opportunities like he doesn't he doesn't have to give you like

SPEAKER_03well like sometimes like my boyfriend be like like I'll he we'll plan a date night and then he'll be like you want me to plan it or do you want to take the

Brian Atlasreigns on it like yes go ahead go ahead go ahead. Oh that that's a go ahead go ahead. That's all I had to say. Okay we have quick I have a quick video on that. Pull it up then chomping at the bit to get

SPEAKER_11in. Go ahead. Play it. Go ahead. I got away with everything under the last boss and it wasn't good for me at all. So, I want guidance. I

SPEAKER_11want leadership. But don't just like boss me around, you know, like lead me.

Brian AtlasLead me when I'm in the mood to be led. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't think it's mood. It's more like circumstances. Yeah. But it's like you said you wanted

Brian Atlasa guy who's a leader, but you how's a guy supposed to turn it on, turn it off. Like I mean that's that's usually 100%. You guys can't really pick and choose like you either want a leader or you can

SPEAKER_03have a little soy boy who's looking to you. What do you Oh, I don't know what I want to eat. Whatever you want, babe. But like even like embers had like a counselor, you know what I mean? Like embers. What is that? Like empers like just like they just have like you just

SPEAKER_03talk about things. That's what relationships are like. And there's certain things that again, different roles, different things. Girl, there's got to be give and take. Yeah. Does there? Honestly, like I'm can be so

Lauren (Healthcare)pushy and intense sometimes that when a guy is like, "No." I'm like, "Someone did that." Like, and I like that and that's weird, right? I love strong men. There's guys that just won't say anything. And I'm like, "If you agree

Andrew Wilsonwith everything I say, I know you're full of shit." Uh, Andrew, you wanted to weigh in on this? Yeah. So, uh, you said this was chair three. You had said, you know, he just

Andrew Wilsoncan't handle a bad [ __ ] right? He can't handle a a baddie, right? Can't handle a baddy. But it's really funny because he actually is answering to the criticisms which a lot of the table have

Andrew Wilsonoffered uh this evening towards men. And he's uh he's offering basically exactly what it is that you want. It's not good enough. So, here's what he actually said there. women. I don't know why, but when when men speak, especially on topics like this, women just tune them out and

Andrew Wilsonseem to hear what they want to hear. But here's what he actually said. What he actually said was, if you put all of that on display, if you're putting everything out on display for other

Andrew Wilsonpeople, right, then obviously you must want other people to see it. He says things like gold, diamonds, things like this, they're really super hard to find. And so when a man finds something like that, he doesn't want to share it cuz

Andrew Wilsonit's his. He doesn't want to share it with anybody. He doesn't want other people to touch it. He doesn't put it out on display. He doesn't want it stolen from him. He doesn't want it taken from him. He doesn't want it looked at by other people. He doesn't want it fondled. He doesn't want it

Andrew Wilsonmanhandled. He doesn't want it messed with. Right? He wants it all to himself cuz it's his. It's his diamond. It's his gold. It's that that. And he says, "I fought tooth and nail to get it because those things which are diamonds are the

Andrew Wilsonhardest things in the whole world to find. They're the hardest things in the world to get. And it takes a lot of work to get one. So when you get one, you don't want to share it with anybody. Right? So his criticism is why would

Andrew Wilsonyou, if a man has you and values you that much, betray him by doing that to him? That's his criticism. Not a single one of you responded to the criticism because you didn't [ __ ] listen. You

SPEAKER_03didn't even [ __ ] listen to him. Oh, first of all, diamond rings are like on people's hands all the time. People share like you're not even going to the criticism. Give me a break. First of all, to the actual criticism. Yeah. Answer to the actual criticism. Go

SPEAKER_03ahead. Wait, repeat the criticism one more time so I can really dive in. No, just repeat it one more time. No, go ahead and just repeat it instead of like always. No, just go ahead and just say it one more time. What? Like I think all

Andrew Wilsonof us here's digest. Okay, go ahead. Man finds most valuable thing on planet earth does not want to share it. Does not want to share it because he's showing how much he values it by refusing to share it. Right. thing

SPEAKER_03that's valuable though says I want to be shared. That shows man thing that's valuable doesn't value him. Yeah. You get it now? Is that simple enough? Okay. If he values something, he'll want the

SPEAKER_03best for whatever he values. He would This is a person, not an object that we're talking about too. So if the object is opinionated, I think someone who values them would also listen.

SPEAKER_03That's why it's it's two in a relationship. I agree to what he said in terms of um being promiscuous and stuff but again it takes two and I think that both opinions matter if each other

SPEAKER_03respect there's respect between each other there's going to be conversation if he's dating someone or being with somebody who won't listen to him conversation what conversation what conversation what what what

Andrew Wilsonconversation needs to be had when you say you're the most valuable thing on earth to me so therefore I have to most valuable thing on earth to Yes. So, please don't betray that by putting yourself in the hands of other men. But

Andrew Wilsonhow is that putting in the hands of other men if you're just because what else are you displaying it for? You guys always cope and say, "I just dress like a skank so that other women will think I'm pretty." Stop lying. It's [ __ ] It's [ __ ] and lies. Every man knows

Andrew Wilsonit's [ __ ] and lies. You put yourselves on display cuz you want the adoration of men. We want the That's why you do it. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Why do you always think it's about men that we want to give it to? Because here's

Andrew Wilsonthe thing. I believe 100% and you can dispute this. I want to hear it. Sounds good. I believe 100% if all men died tomorrow, there wasn't a single man left. There was a a man wiped out virus, right? All gone. I don't think any of

SPEAKER_03you would dress like that. I Who the hell would you be dressed like? Do you know about women gyms? Like I Yeah, I love clothes. I think the one thing about being a woman that is really cool that I like learn to love is dressing

SPEAKER_03up. It is really really fun. And if you guys all died, I would still dress up. Even better, man. Matter of fact, I might go out naked if it's all just women. You know what I mean? It's just like we like to dress up. No. In the

Andrew Wilsonmorning. In the morning when you got up to go to the store, you wouldn't spend 3 hours in front of the mirror, you put on Yeah. Because I have a schedule and a tight schedule. If I had all the time in

Andrew Wilsonthe world to play dress up, it's such hope. It's such when women claim like she says, chair 2 says, I dress in bikinis all day in my Instagram, but that's because it's the only way I feel

Chloe Yummygood about me. You think that that's for other women, right? That's like for myself, though, because that's what I I think I'm like I look good and I feel pretty. That's what I was saying is like it's about myself. You keep bringing her

Holly (62)up because she's like she doesn't understand. I love the video of the dad when his daughter goes out. She chopped off her pants to wear hot pants. So, he

Holly (62)went in the kitchen and he chopped his pants off. So, he's wearing hot pants and people are going, "What the hell is he doing?" That's she got the point that

SPEAKER_03she looked like a complete ooch. Yeah, I agree. You know, there's again circumstances. I just don't understand how a specific outfit equals I'm sharing

Andrew Wilsonmy woman with the world. Like, it doesn't compute in No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're missing. The thing is that men are really vision. That actually shouldn't Hang on. You're right. That actually shouldn't compute because it misses the point entirely.

Andrew WilsonIt's not about I don't want my woman to go out because uh in in these clothes because it's sharing her with the world. It's about the betrayal that she would

Holly (62)even want to. How many hard odds do a woman give men just walking by looking like that? Calm down, lady. I'm almost

Andrew Wilsondone. So, what he's referencing there is he's saying, why would a a a person who I value this much? I found gold. You're gold. And I'm going to treat you like

Andrew Wilsonyou're precious in all ways to me by never putting you on display, by putting you under lock and key from all dangers. You're as precious as diamonds and rubies. Why would you betray that by going and putting yourself on display

Holly (62)for other men? That's his point. I just don't understand how it's betrayal if if she if that's just how she likes to dress because you're getting a man hard. Okay, men look with their eyes. How many

Andrew Wilsonhard odds do you give a man when you're exposed walking down the street? It's not it's not about just you. It's not always about you. It's not always about

Andrew Wilsonhow you feel, right? Also, it's also it's also the idea here is imagine for a second that all capacity you had for caring about somebody else was imbued in

Andrew Wilsonone other human being and that human being appeared like they wanted to share themselves with others. Wouldn't that feel like the ultimate betrayal to you?

Andrew WilsonNo. No. Well, first of all, you then it's like reasoning with a 10-year-old. Well, you keep saying that if I can't if I can't even reason with you, right? And that's what communication is. You're

Andrew Wilsontaking an unprincipled position. Hang on one at a time. Let her finish. Right. She doesn't need your help. You don't have to insert. Right. So, anyway, uh there it impossible to actually reason

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