ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?! 62yr Old vs Andrew/Rachel! He Brought His MOM On A Date?! | Dating Talk #239

Date: 2025-04-21

Duration: 8h 23m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Healthcare)>

AAmanda (Hair)>

AAndrew Wilson >

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Lauren (Healthcare)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Chloe Yummy(guest)

SPEAKER_05Amanda (Hair)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Evelyn(guest)

SPEAKER_13Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Rachel Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe's age lie exposed: said 18, actually 19

ControversyALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE: Holly (62) vs Andrew Wilson heated confrontation over gender politics

Key MomentRachel Wilson calls in to confront Holly directly

Key MomentChloe accidentally reveals contractual OnlyFans obligation preventing her from quitting

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Eva, Chloe, Teresa, Lauren, Holly (62), Jade, Amanda, Evelyn.

Muhammad Ali Clip Reaction

Panel watches/reacts to Ali clip on race and women.

OnlyFans Legitimacy

Chloe defends OF. Andrew criticizes.

Self-Rating Looks

Guests rate themselves 1-10.

Chloe Age Lie Revealed

Actually 19, said 18.

Holly vs Andrew Confrontation

Title moment: Holly (62) and Andrew heated exchange over gender politics. Rachel Wilson calls in.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthe views of the whatever channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your

Brian Atlasname, age, location. So, like where you're from, occupation, and education. Go ahead. Starting with you. Uh, my

SPEAKER_03name's Eva. I'm 24. I'm occupation. Uh yeah, occupation. I'm a fitness coach and I graduated with

SPEAKER_03a BS in kinesiology and I'm based in San Diego. All right. Based in San Diego. And uh did you go to UCSD? Uh SDSU. SDSU. Okay. And you got your BS from there? Yes. Correct. All right. Cool.

SPEAKER_03Welcome. And you're uh always from San Diego. Like that's where you grew up? I moved there for school. I moved around a lot, but um mainly lived in San Jose the

Chloe Yummylongest. Got it. Okay. What about you? Um, I'm Chloe Yummy and I'm 18 years old and I do Instagram and Only Fans. Okay.

Brian AtlasAnd uh, where are you from? Um, Charlotte, North Carolina. Okay. And any um, university, college? No, sadly not.

Chloe YummyOkay. Like a semester or something or No. No. Okay. All right. How long you been doing OF for? Um about like five

Brian Atlasmonths now. When did you turn 18? Um May 27th. So I'm So like a couple months. Okay. So a couple months after you turned it you didn't like some of these girls would like drop it right on their

SPEAKER_0318th birthday which is a little um No, it was like a couple months after. A couple months after you turned 18. Okay. All right. What about you? Uh my name is Teresa. I am 30 years old. I'm based out

SPEAKER_03of Los Angeles. I'm a DJ. And before I became a DJ, I graduated the registered massage therapy program. Massage therapy. Okay. Any uh university or like normal standard college? It was a

Brian Atlascollege back in Canada. Oh, you're from Canada? Yeah. That Okay. What part? Vancouver, Toronto. Vancouver. Okay. Is there like a nickname for your you guys? Vancouver cuz it rains all the time.

Brian AtlasVancouver. Rancver. Vancouver. Okay. Got it. Okay. So, Vancouver. And uh you said you got a like a massage therapy

Brian Atlaslicense. Yeah. any like u undergrad like or I mean when I went to college it was basically all the courses were within the program. So got it. Cool. And

Brian Atlashow long you've been in Los Angeles for? Four years. Do you are um are you trying to get like citizenship or do you have work in progress? So you have like a a green card or how does that work? Like a

Brian Atlasvisa to work here or how does it work? Are you an illegal immigrant? Long long story but work in progress. Oh, okay. Watch out. With the new administration, they're going to they're going to deport you. Um, okay, cool. So, welcome. Uh,

SPEAKER_03welcome. What about you? Oh, wait. Actually, sorry. Uh, you said you're a DJ. Do you also do music production? Uh, I just released a remix, my first track,

SPEAKER_03um, last month. I DJed Rolling Loud this last month and last year. Okay. What What kind of uh what's the music that you produce or DJ? I'm trying to tap

Brian Atlasinto the house music scene. So, trying to step away from hip-hop and go into the more EDM bag. Okay. Do you sing too or just produce? I do not sing. Okay. Just like produce and DJ. Got it. All

Lauren (Healthcare)right. What about you? My name is Lauren. I am here from Houston, Texas. I went to um high school in Houston, but I was in San Diego for 10 years. So, glad

Lauren (Healthcare)to be back here in California. I have a chemistry bachelor's of science um from Trinity University. Age? Oh, I'm 36. 36.

Lauren (Healthcare)Okay. Yeah. And um what else also? Oh, I wrote a little book. It's called Crazy Good. Okay. What's that about? Um it's

Brian Atlasuh mental health like advocacy. It's a poetry book, too. So, I I spit bars. You spit bars. Okay. There you go. All

Brian Atlasright. And um Okay. From Texas. Uh and you said you got your what? Your degree in what again? Sorry. Chemistry. Is it a um master's bachelor's? No. BS BS in

Brian Atlaschemistry. Okay. I got published in undergrad too. Oh, you had like a paper published in what journal? Um, chemistry, the European journal. Okay.

Lauren (Healthcare)What was the area of focus on that? It had to do with cucyold in benzobisoleium and being able to do um

Holly (62)thermodynamic studies of that and punching. I know about that. Yeah. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. Cool. What about you? I'm Holly. I'm 62 years old from

Holly (62)Burbank. I am an author, artist. I went to Pasadena Art Center uh with children's stories and Foster and Kaiser

Holly (62)where they used to paint the billboards, painted Warner Brother Warner Brothers billboards in my early years. They don't do that anymore now.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. And um so and have you been in the LA area for most of your life or? Yeah, Burbank. Burbank. Forever. Forever. Yeah. Okay. Forever. Traveled the world, but Burbank. All

SPEAKER_03right. Cool. Welcome. Welcome. What about you? Hi, I'm Jade. I'm 32 from Los Angeles, California. And I'm a DJ and producer. And I had a I have a

Brian Atlasbachelor's in media management from Cal Northridge. Cal Northridge. Okay. Got it. And uh what do you do? You do any singing or I used to do a little singing, but I realized I like DJing and

Amanda (Hair)producing a lot more. Okay. Yeah. All right. What about you? Uh I'm Amanda. I'm 36. I'm a TV film hair stylist. I live in Los Angeles. I have a bachelor's

Brian Atlasfrom UC Santa Barbara and I have my cosmetology license. Oh, you went here to UCSB. Okay. Uh you graduated uh when? In 2011. 2011. And that sorry, your

Evelyndegree was in what? In sociology, and I minored in writing. Okay. Sociology, minor in writing. Got it. Okay. Uh, what about you? Hi, I'm Evelyn. I'm 36 years

Evelynold. I'm a lawyer. Uh, I'm from Argentina, but I'm living in LA since one year and a half. And here I'm trying to become an actress. And I've been

Brian Atlasworking as a model and actress my whole life. So now I'm 100% sure that this is my thing. And you were a a lawyer in Argentina. Yeah. You're not a lawyer. No. Okay. Here. Um what what made you I

Evelynguess uh or how how long have you been practicing law? Lawrence 12 years. 12 years. Yeah. But I quit because I needed to come here. I needed to be in Hollywood in LA and pursue my dreams. So that's why I'm here right now. And you

Brian Atlassaid you moved here about a year ago. Yeah. One year and a half. Okay. And what uh what's the procedure or I guess the process for becoming an attorney in Argentina? Like so do you go to normal

Evelynuniversity and then once you finish with that you go to law school? Uh no it's completely different in South America uh you finish your high school like after

Evelynfive or six years and then you go to university right away and then you study for six years or five. Yeah. So, and then you complete and then you are a

Evelynlawyer. What was your uh area of uh practice? Uh financial law and economic law. I'm uh writing my thesis right now uh because I want to finish my PhD, but

Brian AtlasOh, I'm in the process right now. Yeah. Okay. And you did uh you did actually practice law though, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was working for the justice. Okay. Gotcha. What do you think about the new

Evelynuh president of Argentina? Malay. Malay. Yeah. It's a big Yeah, it's a big change for us. Uh but yeah, I'm happy. Oh, okay. That was Yeah, I know. I know. I I

Evelynknow him. Uh so, yeah, it's a big change for us, but hopefully everything is going to be better now. And we are happy because we need it. We need this change. So, it's it's good. Okay. All right. Well, welcome. Thank you. All right. We're going to go around the table once

Brian Atlasmore. So, what is everybody's current relationship status? So, are you single? Talking stage situ whatever it is. If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in,

Brian Atlasstarting with you? Um, in a relationship. All right. How long have you guys been together? A year and a half. All right. One and and then is

Brian Atlasthis your longest relationship? No. What was your longest relationship? Two years. Two years. Okay. Uh, in your two-year relationship, who broke up with

Brian Atlaswho? I broke up with him. All right. And I'm trying to think. And these are uh you've only dated these two guys. Is

Brian Atlasthat correct? All right. And Okay. What about you? Um I have a boyfriend. Um I actually do

Chloe YummyOnly Fans with him and I love him. How long have you been with him? Um like a year now. One year. Have you had any other relationships or is this it? Um

Chloe Yummyyeah. I had four other boyfriends before him. Okay. How old is he? Um my boyfriend's 22. 22.

Brian AtlasSo he was Is that So he's 21 and you were 17. Okay. All right. Uh Okay. So, you've

Brian Atlasbeen And wait, so you had been dating him and it was his was it his idea to start the OFA or was it yours? Um, no.

Chloe YummyIt was my I mean I wouldn't say it was my idea but my old manager he reached out to me on Instagram and I didn't have any followers at the time and he said

Chloe Yummythat I would be like perfect for like cosplay and only fans and stuff and he like brought me into Only Fans and then like a month ago I just now started

Brian Atlasdoing videos with my boyfriend. Okay, got it. Um, has your boyfriend expressed any uh like did he not want you to start OAF or

Chloe Yummywas he cool with it? Um, honestly, he was really supportive. Um, and he really enjoys like being on Only Fans. He doesn't do Only Fans. He actually like

Chloe Yummywears like a scream mask in all of my videos, so you can't even like see his face.

Brian AtlasWait, what is it? A toggle? What is it? A scream mask. He wears a scream mask. Oh, okay. From the movie. All right.

SPEAKER_03Okay. Uh, what about you? Um, I'm exclusively dating someone right now, but we're not in a committed relationship yet.

SPEAKER_03All right. So, not not a relationship yet. Yet. You're are but you're not single or are you single? I mean, technically I am, but I am exclusively

SPEAKER_03dating someone and and feeling out the connection to see if it can become a committed relationship. How long have you guys been uh talking, I guess? Uh, but we've been talking since end of February.

Brian AtlasSo, like two months. Yeah, two months. Okay. What's your longest relationship? Uh, almost 5 years. Five years. All right. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. Okay. And then, uh, prior to

Brian Atlasmeeting this new guy, how long had you been single? Uh, four months. Four months. Got it. Was that the one that the five-year relationship that ended four months ago?

SPEAKER_03Okay. What was your second longest relationship? Second longest. So, you said you had a five? Uh, probably a year and a half. Year and a half. Got it. Okay. Who broke up with who? I also

Brian Atlasbroke up with him. Of all your relationships, did you always end it? Yes. Every single one? Yeah. There's not like one guy who broke your heart. One guy did break my heart. Okay. Um it's

SPEAKER_03like in elementary school or something. No. Uh it was like two years ago, I'd say. I was I was probably one of my most toxic relationships.

Brian AtlasWhat did you do that was so toxic? Uh I mean I didn't think I was toxic. Oh. Oh. The relationship it No, it was him that was toxic. I mean it takes two to tango. So Okay. So you were also both of you

SPEAKER_03were being toxic. I'd say I was only toxic because I didn't know how to like fend for myself or stand up for myself. I just let him walk all over me.

Lauren (Healthcare)I see. Okay. Good times. Good times. What about you? So, I am dating myself right now. Um, self love. Yeah. What? We

Lauren (Healthcare)love that. Self love. So, what? Okay. So, yeah, I'm just kind of doing my own thing right now. Um, and it's really fun. I like it. Um, my

Brian Atlaslongest relationship was 5 years. He broke up with me. Okay. 5 years. Uh, how long have you been dating

Lauren (Healthcare)yourself? Um, since July of last year. Mhm. I was engaged and so I got disengaged. Ever married? Never. Any kids? None. Okay. I have three. Uh, you

Andrew Wilsongot disengaged? Yeah. Was this the 5-year guy? No. You date yourself? Yeah. Uhhuh. Do you know how to show it? How um how do how do you decide where to go to dinner, though? Andrew, you got to

Brian Atlaswait because we don't have you yet. You got to wait. Wait to see your face. Um so, go ahead. Um no, I mean it just means that if someone My my tech guy doesn't doesn't know how to uh So,

Lauren (Healthcare)you're going to have to wait. You got to wait until I'm back there. Um Go ahead. Um, it just means that I'm not really like looking to date anyone like, but I just I'm most interested in progressing

Lauren (Healthcare)my career where I'm going, but like not because I don't want to get married and stuff, but just more so because I want to like be in my true authentic self.

Brian AtlasAnd whenever I'm in a relationship, I'm so intense that I kind of forget a little bit about who I am. Okay. So, you Sorry, you've been single slashdating

Brian Atlasyourself for how long? since July. So, so like a almost a year. Yeah. Nine months, something like that. Okay. Uh dating self. Okay. Do you get in arguments with yourself? No. No. It's

Brian Atlasvery peaceful relationship. It's a peaceful relationship. Okay. It's very peaceful. All right. Uh are you going to marry yourself, you think? No, not marry. Some people do that. I have heard of that. You could marry your dog. Do

Lauren (Healthcare)you have any pets? Ain't no way you can. You can marry like pillows and stuff. I think they do that. It is a thing. Okay.

Holly (62)What about you? Um, I'm ghosted and I'm hit on by married men. Wait, ghost? What does ghosted mean?

Holly (62)What do you mean? Ghosted means you had something rocking red hot and then they vaporize and you're going, "Whoa, where

Holly (62)am I? Am I in the Twilight Zone? What the hell just happened to me?" You have something out of sight. It's the best thing that's ever come along.

Holly (62)Wow. Damn. And then you go, I was just hit by a Mac truck. What the hell was that? Are are you a fabulous act? Who

Holly (62)are you? And you've known the person for eight years. Eight years. Eight years. You knew like you dated him for eight years or you

Holly (62)knew him? I was introduced to him through my niece. And at the time I was introduced to him, he was one of these guys that went to Burning Man. And those

Holly (62)guys, okay, I know all about those guys. I'm an artist, but I was like, I'm not like that kind of artist, but whatever. So, we put that on the back burner. But

Holly (62)over the years, he'd see me at art shows, and he was a really great guy. But I thought,

Holly (62)God, there's something on this December. He I He comes up to me at the art show and I go, "Hey, you know, buddy, how are

Holly (62)you?" And he goes, "I've got cancer." And all of a sudden, just a flood of emotions come over me that I just wanted to hug him and hold him and go, "It's

Holly (62)going to be okay." You know, and I I go, "Have you heard about Ivormect? have you heard about thin benzadrol? And he's going, "What? What?" I go, "Listen, I listen to these p podcasters and this

Holly (62)stuff cures cancer and nobody's telling anybody about it." I'm going, "I'll give you all the information." And I thought to myself, you know, it's like Christmas time. And I'm going, get them in the

Holly (62)spirit to be happy, you know, and there's a restaurant that has carolers that play. And I said, I sent him an email. I said, "Hey, we got to go out to celebrate the holidays. You know,

Holly (62)there's carolers. You're going to feel like a million bucks. You know, just to get them out of the the get the energy positive." And so we go and he goes, "I

Holly (62)have been looking forward to this all day." Goes, "I've thought about you all day. We have a fabulous time." You know, we leave. It's Christmas time. My cat

Holly (62)dies the next two days. And I'm like so sad. And he's like sending me text messages and and being like really positive. And then he wants to come over

Holly (62)and he takes me out to lunch and things are just rocking. Takes me out to a lunch a few times and then I'm a I'm a patriot if you guys can't tell. Hello.

Holly (62)Um and I'm going back to the inaugural, right? But they're changing the inaugural because it's so cold there, right? all the tickets that I have. Um,

Brian Atlaswait, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna let you tell the story, but I just want to get everybody in here. So, okay. Um, but so, okay, you're uh ghosted. You're So,

Holly (62)you're single and hit on by married men. You get hit on by married men? Yes. Okay. Are you dating any of the married men? No, I just found out they were married and I can tell you how to spot

Brian Atlasthem. Okay. Is it the ring? No. Is that usually the way? They never wear rings. They Oh, they take it off. Yeah. Or they just don't have it on. Um and so, okay, longest relationship.

Brian AtlasThat one's a hard one to answer because you can say it's over and then a couple just try not to bang. It's okay. Just No, you're fine. Just try not to bang on

Holly (62)the table. Um so you try and cut ties and you are you're serious. You look them straight in the eye. You go, "It's done. It's over." And then you keep

Brian Atlas[ __ ] them for three months. No, they come back. You got to count the three months. They go, we were I was in the area. You were in the area. You were in the area. Yeah. I'm not looking for like year, month, day. Just

Brian Atlaslike a approximation like 3 years, four years, 5 years. Longest relationship. You can't even count it cuz it just kept going on even though you cut it off. Yeah. You can't just count. So if it was

Brian Atlaslike on again, off again, just even [ __ ] it. Just include the off period. Is it like 10 years here? Probably 15. 90. Probably 15. But I was dating other

Brian Atlaspeople. You dated a guy from 87 to 99? Is that right? Okay. Is that But give me give me uh give me the years. I can't even think of the years. I can't

Brian Atlasremember that. Was friends on TV? Was Bill Clinton the president? Yeah. At one point he was. Was the Monica Lewinsky [ __ ] Did that happen? Monica

Brian AtlasLewinsky? Yeah. Yeah, he was there a little bit, but then he kept going on. Did you date Bill Clinton? No. You? No. No. Okay. Would you? He thought he was.

Brian AtlasOh, he freaking thought he was. He looked like Elmer Fud, but he thought he thought he was president. Um, okay. So, what should I put? 10 years longest

Holly (62)relationship. Because it's not even a relationship. He just happened to be in my life. Okay. You know, I cut it. Were you having

Brian Atlascarnal knowledge? I sexual intercourse. It was fabulous. It was the sex. It was fabulous. No, but the the guy that you dated for the longest period of time.

Holly (62)Okay. It was on. It was off. Can I tell you this? Okay. Can I tell you when he came one of the times he came back in my life? Well, this one's so juicy. You'd flip out. Well, save it because I'll get to it. Well, I'll let you say it because

Brian AtlasI need to get up for a moment so when I get up and I figure out all the the tech stuff, you you just have the floor. But what I do need longest relationship. I

Holly (62)wouldn't call it a relationship 15 years. Have you had the sneaky link? Sneaky link. I don't even decode that

Brian Atlasfor me. I don't know what that is. Uh somebody who uh any Gen Any Gen Z people want to explain that? You just link up together. But what is

Holly (62)she? Do you know what link? Oh, sorry. I'm not linking up with anybody. It's a relationship or nothing. But what happens is they're doing the sneaky link while you're thinking you're having a relationship is what the problem is. Okay. Well, how long did you think you

Holly (62)had the relationship for? Like every time he came back, it's like how long did he keep coming back for? At least 15 years. I would just say 15 years. 15

Holly (62)years. Yes. Okay. 15 years. Yeah. Was it before the millennium or when was it? Um, when was the God bless to try and think this one out. How long ago was

Holly (62)that? It was 10 years ago was the last time. I said, "Just get the hell out of my life." So, it's like Obama.

Holly (62)Who's president? Obama. My god. I don't know who was president. What was 10 years ago? Who was that? Who was? It was Obama. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. His second term, like

Holly (62)the tail end. And he tried to win my heart by donating blood to get me a 31 flavors ice cream

SPEAKER_03cone. Did it work? Yes, it did work.

Brian AtlasOh, okay. I thought um how long have you been single? I guess my whole life. Well, I mean,

Brian Atlasno. So, you've never been married, correct? But when I say uh single, I mean it in the sense of like uh you've had relationships.

Brian AtlasYes. Yeah. Um you describe yourself as a seasoned dater. Yes. We will we'll get into that. Okay. Um what about you? So, I am in a

SPEAKER_03relationship. Been in once for two and a half years. Um, and my longest relationship was 5 years. All right. 5-year relationship. Who broke up with who? He broke up with me. Okay. Why?

SPEAKER_03What did you do? Uh, we just grew apart, to be honest. And I feel like we weren't giving our best elves in the relationship, so he just cut it. And we were engaged, too. So, that was Yeah.

Amanda (Hair)Yeah. That was crazy. But it was for the best. Good times. Good times. All right. All right. What about you? Uh, I am single. My longest relationship was 6

Amanda (Hair)years. It ended mutually and I'm currently single. I've been officially single since like last summer. I was dating pretty exclusively. Uh, so would you say like 9 months or

Brian Atlasso? Sure. You've been single? Okay. No guys in the picture? None. Nobody. Zero. Zero. Phone's dry. Phone's dry. Are you

Evelynon any dating apps? I am not. I was for a very long time but not anymore. Okay. All right. What about you? Uh my last relationship end up when pandemic start

Evelynand I was with him for almost 5 years and yeah and we were about to move together when that happened. So it was kind of shocking for me but now I'm perfect. So I think it was my best

Brian Atlasdecision ever. Uh so longest relationship was 5 years. 5 years. Yeah. And then you're single currently correct. Yeah. And before that, I had another relationship for four years. Okay. The uh 5-year relationship, did you end it? I ended up Yeah. And then

Brian Atlasthe four-year relationship, did you end? I also ended up Okay. And you've been single for how long? Five years. Five years. Okay. Uh has there been in that 5year period though, has there been some

Evelyna rebound? Not at all. Nothing in Have you dated any men in Los Angeles? Um, I try but Hashi said they ghosted me uh some of

Evelynthose. So now I'm just focusing my career and in myself she said. So yeah. So yeah, I don't want to invest time right now in something if I know that

Brian AtlasI'm not 100% there right now because actually I'm more focusing myself. Okay, cool. That's everybody's relationship status. We'll get into some of that. Um, just really quickly, is anybody here

Holly (62)currently on the dating app? Maybe I haven't deleted Bumble yet. You still use it? No, it's not active. It's just exists on my phone. Okay. Um I don't

Holly (62)know. I don't know if this is a dating app or not, but on my phone, right, when I go to No. What What do you What do you want? When I go to my Facebook, right,

Holly (62)it's got a little heart, right? Yeah, there's there. So, I hit on the little heart and I'm going, "Oh my god, I've got all these weirdos hitting on me." The married Facebook dating, not not the

Brian Atlasspot. Uh yeah, I don't think you should get on uh Farmers Only or Well, there's Tinder, there's Tinder, there's Hinge, there's Bumble, uh there's all these apps. Anybody in the chat, you know, maybe somebody will

Brian Atlasfind we'll find you some love tonight on the show, somebody watching. Uh all right. um here. So, I need to get up for a moment, but why don't you tell us uh

Brian Atlastell us so you described that you were a seasoned dater. Uh it's going to take me a minute or two to get that figured out. So, just go into it. Tell us tell us about your season dating or maybe the

Holly (62)story that you shared in the thing. Seasoned dating just means that you've you've dated for years and you haven't cracked the code

Holly (62)because oh my gosh, it feels like the impossible dream. It really does. And I

Holly (62)know that there's people that actually fall in love even at my age and older cuz I've seen him and I've never seen

Holly (62)them happier. One of my friends, Tony, lives right here in Ventura. He met a girl that lived in his neighborhood and he started calling her

Holly (62)while she was married and she was miserably married and she divorced him, moved to Ventura. They got a classic little 69 Volkswagen bus and one of

Holly (62)those Duffy boats. So, they hang out at the beach in the bus camping and they cruise around and they're little and they're so happy. It's so fun to see him because it gives me hope, you know.

Holly (62)Who's another one that just got married? Oh, this other guy. This other guy. He's loaded. He's filthy rich. Lives in Florida and he's always at Mara Lago. And he married, he's 80 years old, but

Holly (62)he's like Trump where he's like really cool, doesn't look it, super stylish. Met a woman that's 75 that looks like his freaking twin. and they travel in

Holly (62)their motor home everywhere. He was over in uh in Africa doing a hot air uh balloon tour and I was talking to him on Facebook as he's like scanning

Holly (62)everything. But I'm going, it happens. It may happen later. You know, are you always like searching for love? No, I I wasn't even searching. When the last few

Holly (62)have come up to me, I'm going this is a nightmare. Mhm. You know, I just had a dude that looked at my I was walking into Staples last week and the guy walks up to me and he goes, "Oh, look at your

Holly (62)nails." And I go, "Rat on Corvette red." And he looks at my face and he goes, "You're really beautiful." And I go, "You are my favorite person." Mhm. And then he just kept walking with me. And

Holly (62)I'm thinking, "Okay, this is weird because normally guys um if they like you, they're kind of like a little bit more skittish. They don't tell you like you're beautiful,

SPEAKER_03you know, doesn't happen like that. And I walk in, I'm thinking I think it's the opposite. I feel like if they're like like you a lot, they're shy. Yes. You know, they want to like go up to you like unless they're like super confident. But in my opinion, those are

Holly (62)the married ones. And I thought to that to myself as I was going in the store and he was following me and wanted my phone number. I'm thinking, dude, you were too confident, you know? And I'm going I'm starting to like back away

Holly (62)because I didn't really observe my surroundings. And I thought, how did he like spot me in an empty parking lot? What What was it that signals that I was

Holly (62)giving off? And sure enough, I talked to him. Oh, uh, yeah, he's divorced. I'm going, I don't buy this story. I'm separated. I said, who do you live with?

Holly (62)He said, oh, my mom and my kids. And you know, we're separated. I said, "You're married, dude. You're married. Be, you know, that is so wrong to do." I'm sorry. I I put it all over Facebook. I

Holly (62)was so pissed off. And then all the married guys are going, "Married guys are horny, too." And I hate all of you. I just hate all of you. What happened to the faithful ones? Are there? Is there?

Holly (62)There have to be some of them, right? Somewhere. We're hoping. Do you want to be married? I wanted to be married my whole life, but you know what? I feel

Holly (62)extremely blessed that I found out who the person was before I got married because I would have been heartbroken. And some girls just look for a wedding.

Holly (62)They think, "God, if I can have my wedding and then they have no clue what they're in for." I had so many girlfriends at the age of 20 to 25 to

Holly (62)get married to be divorced by 25 and on their second marriage. And I and it shattered them. It shattered their whole being because they thought that this was

Chloe Yummyit. And I just went, "Wow." Why do you think you're not married? Like, do you think that it's the guys that you're choosing or is it something that you're doing? You think it's your fault? Ky, I

Holly (62)think you're the gifted 20 subs. Go ahead. I think you get what you get in life, you know, because I don't feel that you can really choose a man, you know? I didn't. Wait, did you just Hang

Holly (62)on. Hang on. Did you just use the life is like a box of chocolates quote? No. You never know what you're going to get. Well, I did say come on. That was You never know what you're going to get. It's a Forest Gum quote. And look at

Holly (62)what happened to Forest. You know, he ended up going on to be a multi-billionaire who hanging on for Jenny, you know, just hanging on for Jenny. She didn't she have HIV? Yes. And

Brian AtlasJenny's boinking the world, you know? I mean, it's like that guy was in love. We all should be so lucky. All right, we'll come back to that in in a moment. Uh, really quick, I do want to thank someone. Uh, it doesn't show who. I

Brian Atlasdon't know. I got to figure it out on Streamlabs. Total. Thank you. I think you bought a a hoodie or a sweater on our uh that's what's it called on the whatever.com. Wait, no.

Brian AtlasShop. Someone bought a uh a one of our hoodies. Thank you, man. and anomous mammus. Thank you for the membership. Appreciate it. All right, so we're going to get into uh some of the

Brian Atlaspre-show notes here in uh let's see, where do we begin? You know, Holly, we're going to come back to uh to some of your stuff, but uh no kids, right? Anybody here have kids? No kids?

Brian AtlasAnybody? Kids? Kids? Okay. Uh you know what? I'm going to start with Chloe.

Chloe YummyChloe, what happens? You What did you write in your notes here? Why don't you tell us? I don't remember what my notes were. Uh, you you pass out when

Chloe Yummyum I the only thing I remember is that I didn't really circle anything because No, no, not the not the not this in the messages on Instagram.

Chloe YummyOh. Um, like what I wanted to talk about on the podcast? Yeah.

Chloe Yummy[Music] Um, so basically I'm like nervous to say, but I'm just going to say I've never really talked about it ever, not

Chloe Yummyeven to like like most of my girlfriends. Um, but do you guys know what like ciliac disease is? Mhm. Um, so

Chloe YummyI'm basically glutenfree ever since I was um younger and I can't really like absorb like vitamins good, so I get really dizzy

Chloe Yummyeasily and um so this is so embarrassing, but um

Chloe Yummyduring sex like I tend to like pass out every single time and I'm I've been to like many doctors and like no one really

Chloe Yummyknows why. And like I've been on different medications, but nothing like works for me. And um I can pass out from anywhere from like 1 minute to like 10

Chloe Yummyminutes long. Um wait, so is it when you orgasm or like No, it could be very It doesn't even have to be

Chloe Yummylike super intense. Like if someone's like eating me out or fingering me or having sex, like I just pass out.

Chloe YummyThis only happens during sex. No fingering. No. No. Well, any Does it happen? You're on a treadmill. Not No, not exercise. I was going to say that. I

Chloe Yummydid dance for like my whole life. I never had any like problems with passing out. It's just um the sex. So, you don't pass out under any

Chloe Yummyother circumstances? No. You think it's psychological? Um, some of my doctors said that it could be like a trauma response to the feeling of

Chloe Yummylike that feeling, but I don't think that's it. I think I don't know what's wrong with me. You know what, Andrew? You know what this reminds me of? He has

Brian Atlaspenis lepsy. What is that? Like epilepsy but with like penis. So, Andrew, that that woman that you

Brian Atlaswere debating with uh when you were here in person, uh she would say that if someone was if she was dating a guy and this is like a Yeah. Is it is it grape?

Andrew WilsonYou're asking if it's grape. She would say it's like essay technically. I don't think that's definitely not. Yeah. So is it well would it be like so if you're having sex with a guy and he pass out is

Chloe Yummyit is it essay then you're like technically unconscious? I mean no because I have like told them before I have to like

Brian Atlaswarn them because I don't want them to be like that you know feel bad or like I'm being really weird. Are there Yeah. Well Kenzie would certainly say it is

Brian Atlasbut question for you. Uh are there any because of your condition and it is a condition. Yeah. Are there any uh things

Brian Atlasthat you can't do like cuz I could imagine there's just certain scenarios where it could be dangerous. Yeah. You know, so I really like like certain

Chloe Yummypositions and [ __ ] Well, yeah. So in the shower or bathtub standing up. Yeah. standing up or outside somewhere like

Chloe YummyI've had shower sex with my boyfriend but I like it is it could be bad like but he just holds me I guess I don't know and are you out

Chloe Yummyfor how long so they say anywhere from like 1 minute to like 10 minutes long but for me I don't feel the time at all it's just like whenever I pass out to

Andrew Wilsonwhenever I wake up it's like severance I Has anybody seen Yeah. Yeah. Now, uh I'm sorry I didn't catch at the very beginning because there was a bit of

Andrew Wilsontechnical difficulties. Um did you say that you have an OAF? Um yeah, I do. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So, um and it it does seem to be mighty convenient that

Andrew Wilsonyou happen to have a condition which doesn't affect you in any way, shape, or form throughout the entire rest of your life except for this one thing which happens to be sexreated. Super bizarre.

Chloe YummyCiliac does affect other things too. Um, so I can't like eat any gluten at all. And Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm very familiar with ciliac disease. I understand how it works, right? I've

Andrew Wilsonnever heard of ciliac pass out sex disease before, but uh, you know, there's a there's new conditions I hear about all the time. It's just awful convenient though that this one thing

Andrew Wilsonthat has to do with the one thing tied to your profession, right, happens to affect that, but no other real aspect of your life except you have to eat a clean diet. Well, it's very real and I have to

Chloe Yummydeal with it every single time I have sex. And it's really affected like my relationships. So, I understand why you

Lauren (Healthcare)think maybe I'm lying about it, but I'm I'm not. Can I ask a question? Don't you do corn? So, isn't that like you pass

Chloe Yummyout on camera? Um, no. I I I just film like me. Okay. But um I have thought about maybe filming it for people that

Andrew Wilsonwould be interested in it, but it's just There we go. It's just very There we go. You thought about maybe making some content related to this? That's quite the shtick, huh? The idea that, hey,

Andrew Wilsongirl has sex and passes out. She can't take penis cuz she passes out. Awful convenient that you're going to turn this into content, isn't it? Almost like

Chloe Yummyit's calculated and possibly not quite true. Just saying. Just pointing it out. Um, I appreciate your opinion, but it

Chloe Yummyreally is real and it really affected my relationship before because um one of the reasons why me and him broke up is

Chloe Yummybecause um you know on Snapchat like you have like the um um like thing that you put a password in to see your private

Chloe Yummycamera roll on Snapchat. So, um I don't know. I I don't remember why, but we were arguing and I wanted to see what was in his like Snapchat camera roll. I

Chloe Yummythought it was going to be like porn or other girls like um so I was arguing with him and he finally opened it and it

Chloe Yummywas like videos of me um passed out and I had no idea that he ever um recorded me. And this was way before I was doing

Brian AtlasOAF. So, couple questions for you. So, uh you said you've seen you've been to doctors about this. Yeah. Okay. How many different doctors? Um probably like

Brian Atlasfour. Have you seen a psychologist? No. Psychiatrist? No. So, what kind of doctors do you go to? Like just your general general doctor? Your general doctor. Okay. Or urgent care. Have you

Chloe Yummyand you've been given a diagnosis or no? Um they always say it's either like a trigger from trauma. um or it's um the

Chloe Yummyciliac because I have like um I can't absorb vitamins and that can make me dizzy, but I don't like I don't have issues anywhere else. So, Okay.

Brian AtlasUh and you said it happens every single time. Yeah. Okay. It's probably trauma related. Yeah, it sounds like you're

Brian Atlasdisassociating. That's my uh that's my diagnosis. Yeah, it it could be. Um, sure. You also have quite quite a bit of

Brian Atlasa high-pitched voice. Um, when the the doctors say it's trauma related, was there trauma? Um, yeah, I lost my

Chloe Yummyvirginity in a bad way. I'm not going to like say why, but that's probably why I have that problem. Yeah. I don't want you to have to get into it. That sort of

Brian Atlasconversation can be really sensitive. May I ask at what age, though? Um, I was 16. Okay. Was there anything like earlier

Chloe Yummyon? No. No. Any like traumatic stuff like from No. My family was great. Um, my mom was very um protective over me.

Chloe YummySo, I didn't want to lose my virginity at all until I was married. But, um, when that happened to me when I was 16, I just kind of felt like I should take

Brian Atlasmy own sexuality. And I think that's one of the reasons why I do Only Fans. There was this uh old show I used to listen to as a radio show called Love Line with

Brian AtlasAdam Corolla and Dr. Drew. And uh one of their hypotheses was uh people who have experienced, this is applied to both men

Brian Atlasand women, but more so to women. people who have experienced uh sexual trauma, especially a young age, uh tend to have

Brian Atlascertain uh well almost always have uh negative ramifications as they're older. But one of the manifestations of uh

Chloe Yummyearly uh trauma is high-pitched voice. So women with really high pitched voices, it's there's high likelihood of I never knew that. That's really interesting. My dad, he's straight, but

Chloe Yummyhe has such a highpitched voice. Like, he honestly sounds like a woman. Like, on the phone, they always think that he's a girl. All right, maybe it's it

Andrew Wilsoncould be genetic then. So, if you're in a fight with your boyfriend and he just like rubs you there, does that end the fight because you just pass out? You

Andrew Wilsonjust like you just out like a light and then like that just does that just the end of the fight altogether? He's like, I just don't want to fight about this anymore. You know what I mean? So, he does the whole Trump thing and grabs her by the, you know, and then are you just

Chloe Yummyout like a light? Is it, you know, within seconds? Um, you just just done. Um, well, I've never experienced that before, but it

Andrew Wilsonwould work. I would shut up. So, so what I'm gathering here is that your boyfriend for all future possible fights that you may get into has a

Chloe Yummyfailsafe mechanism to end every single fight. Yeah. I mean, even if that like wasn't like if I was just a normal girl and that didn't happen to me, I feel like most girls would shut up if they're

Andrew Wilsonhaving an argument and then their man has sex with them. So, yeah, it would work. Well, I mean, no, there's no guarantee that they would shut up, right? There's only a guarantee though that you would

Andrew Wilsonshut up, right? That would be the guarantee. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, I think the It's like a builtin It's like a built-in off switch.

SPEAKER_03Go ahead. I think the like important question is like doing Only Fans. Are you like happy with it given the SA background? Um, I didn't ever think I was going to

Chloe Yummydo Only Fans. And like I said, my first manager, he really like pushed me to do Only Fans, but now that I'm making so much money, it's just like I can't

Chloe Yummyreally stop doing it. I I like doing it because I can like do cosplay and stuff and like I like taking videos of myself. Um, but it's really just I make so much

Brian Atlasmoney. Now, we're going to move it on. But you said another crazy story. You've been around one of the richest men in the world and you had a weird/demonic experience that you can talk about. Uh

Chloe Yummywho? Who? Yeah. Um Jeff Bezos. Shut up. Come on. Well, actually his son.

Chloe YummyDoes Who's Jeff Bezos has a son? I don't know. Um yeah, he does have a son. I'm not Um so was it Jeff Bezos or was it his son? it was his son, but um he

Chloe Yummyinvited me to Jeff Bezos's estate in um Los Angeles and it's like their main house. Um it's one of the most like

Chloe Yummyexpensive houses in America. And um this was like this October and it was like the best night of my life. But this was

Chloe YummyPreston. This is Preston Bezos. Uh yeah. Okay. It was October, you said. Mhm. Okay. Um

Chloe Yummyyeah, during Halloween, um I was like I met him through one of my actor friends and um we went to a party together, a

Chloe YummyChrome Hearts party and then he invited me to go to his house after and um it was really really cool. Um, and like the

Chloe Yummygates open and like a Rolls-Royce was just like waiting with a chauffeur and I got in and it was like this huge estate. It literally took like 15 minutes to

Chloe Yummyjust like get to the house from like the front gate. Okay. Um, so what happened? Um, cuz you said it was a weird demonic

Chloe Yummyexperience. Well, I'm not very religious, but I just had this like really like eerie like feeling in my heart the whole time. And

Chloe Yummythey had like really strange like statues everywhere. Like there was this really big like red statue um in the middle of a fountain and it looked like

Chloe Yummya demon and it was like 8 feet tall. And like the whole time I was there, I just felt like very very nervous and like

Chloe Yummyoverwhelmed with like bad energy. But it was very cool experience, but it it was weird. Wait, was this Bohemian Grove?

Andrew WilsonI don't know what that is. Maybe I'm just Okay. Um, now this uh where where did you say this happened? um Los Angeles at their main house because

Chloe YummyPreston Preston Bezos lives in New York, not in Los Angeles. Also, his stepson lives in New York, but they obviously come to the main house.

Brian AtlasOkay. So, they were When was this? October. You said in LA. Mhm. During Halloween. They I thought well I mean they probably have no shortage of money to spend on houses but I thought their

Brian Atlasmain house was in like Seattle. No, their biggest and most expensive houses here. Okay. Well, I don't know the details. Uh so there was creepy statues. Was that

Chloe Yummyit? It was just the feeling of like um I mean a lot of people say that rich and famous people um maybe have like a deal with the devil and I never really

Brian Atlasbelieved that until that night. Okay. I'm just I'm serious. I'm being honest. Um but was there anything else weird bes you said there was the statues and then

Chloe Yummythere was a fountain or something or I mean the whole house was weird. It had um dinosaurs, like huge T-Rex like when you walk. That sounds dope. It was It sounds cool. It was cool. It really It

Chloe Yummyreally was cool. But a lot of You don't [ __ ] with dinosaurs? I love dinosaurs. Jurassic Park. No, it was cool. Yeah. Okay. Um

Andrew Wilsonthis is saying that I just I just cursed, you know, just did a cursory exam. This was last year. Last this last October. Yeah, last October. Okay. Okay, cuz this is saying that he was at

Andrew WilsonPrinceton at the time in October. Um, I definitely was with him. I don't know where you're getting that information. I'm just I'm Look, I I believe you, right? I'm just looking at the cursory information, right? What did

Chloe Yummyyou guys do while you were there? Um, so we were partying together the whole time for like Halloween for like a week. Um, I went to like all of the parties with

Chloe Yummyhim um and some of his other friends. And when we went to the house, like we were just drinking and um just hanging

Chloe Yummyout and he like gave like a small tour of the house and yeah, that's basically

Andrew Wilsonit. Did you try to baby trap him? Um no, but um no. Okay. Oh, it sounds like you're going to give us a he made you pass out story

Chloe Yummybefore you get close to it. I mean, I think he's really cute, but I have like a boyfriend, so I was trying to be like respectful.

Brian AtlasUh, okay. Um, have you been around any other like any Saudi people or Saudi?

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