95 Body Count At 22?! Hater LAWSUIT?! Single Mom Wants 6ft $250,000/Year Man?! | Dating Talk #230

Date: 2025-02-24
Duration: 8h 28m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Q(guest)
SPEAKER_05Hunter(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Aaliyah(guest)
SPEAKER_10Daisy(guest)
SPEAKER_11Dila(guest)
SPEAKER_12Lindsay(guest)
SPEAKER_13Adriana(guest)
SPEAKER_14Freda (Nicole)(guest)

Key Moments

00:53:07
OtherBrian matchmakes Daisy with billionaires (Elon, Bezos, Zuckerberg) as joke after Ashley St. Clair story. Daisy looks into camera and says she "wouldn't mind" having a baby with Elon Musk. Funny exchange about finder's fee of $1 billion.

Daisy Offers to Have Elon Musk's Baby on Camera

01:10:40
ControversyBrian plays clip of him joining Ashley St. Clair's Twitter space where she was attacking Whatever podcast, and trolling her by asking her body count repeatedly. She calls them "degenerate scum." Context: she later had Elon Musk's baby and sued him.

Ashley St. Clair Twitter Space Body Count Trolling

01:44:00
OtherBrian runs the delusional dating calculator for Daisy (wants $1M+/year, 30-45 age, not obese, any race, 5'10"+): 0.034% probability. Then runs for Hunter (wants $250k+/year, 6ft+, 35-45 age, not obese, not married, any color): 0.047% probability. Hunter says 47 is her lucky number she sees everywhere.

Delusional Dating Calculator Results

02:51:00
OtherLindsay shares that in her 20s she was The Other Woman for a man who had a girlfriend 13 years younger than Lindsay. She didn't know she was the other woman. He was sleeping around while maintaining the younger girlfriend. Used as example of why women should understand dating market dynamics.

Lindsay Admits Being The Other Woman Without Knowing

03:44:10
OtherDaisy reveals she has spent approximately $200,000 total on cosmetic work (breast implants/gummy bear type, eyebrow implants, lip filler and other work). Paid for by billionaire ex-boyfriend who supported her athletic career. Brian jokes about her chakras being blocked by fake titties.

Daisy Claims $200k in Cosmetic Surgery Total

04:25:00
QuoteAaliyah declares "the woman IS the table" (not bringing something to the table — she IS the table). Brian and Q challenge this. Raises hands of several women who agree. Extended debate about what women actually bring to relationships beyond biology.

Aaliyah: "The Woman Is the Table"

04:50:20
OtherBrian reads Aaliyah's OnlyFans bio written by her agency: "The perfect online girlfriend you've been dreaming of, here to be your everything... ready to make you throb." Aaliyah claims the agency wrote it, not her. Extended debate about accountability and whether she provides the "girlfriend experience" to vulnerable men.

OnlyFans Agency Bio Revealed - "Perfect Online Girlfriend"

04:55:40
ControversyDaisy argues there's no difference between a wife having sex with husband vs a sex worker — both exchanging sex for resources. Panel erupts. "I'd rather prefer a man who pays me for one time than one who doesn't want to pay me for my entire life." Brian says it's one of the most damning statements he's heard. Daisy walks it back slightly but stands her ground.

Daisy Calls Wives "Sex Workers for Life"

05:28:00
OtherQ shares that he had a client who spent $20,000 in one month on an OnlyFans creator who was feeding him lies about wanting to meet and be with him. Used as evidence against Aaliyah's claim her OnlyFans is harmless. Dila expresses sympathy for the client and calls it fraud.

Q Reveals Client Spent $20k on OnlyFans Woman Who Faked Love

06:24:20
OtherDonor Clay challenges the panel with "What started WWI?" — nobody knows (answers include: industrial revolution, nuclear bomb, China, fighting over land). Brian is the only one who knows: assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by Gavrilo Princip. Then asks decade — guesses range from 1550s to 1800s (correct is 1910s). "You're in the wrong century!" Cold War also asked; Freda/Nicole thinks it was cold temperature, others think about atomic bombs from WWII.

World War I Knowledge Quiz - Panel Knows Nothing

06:45:40
OtherNicole/Freda shares she was almost used as bait in a robbery scheme in Houston junior year of high school — a guy friend wanted her to DM a scammer who brought $10k to school to flex, lure him somewhere secluded, then his crew with guns would rob the target. Her cut would have been $5,000. She declined. Knows a girl who did it to another guy.

Nicole/Freda Almost Participated in Houston Robbery Honeypot Scheme

06:55:50
OtherAdriana shares that a man she was dating was into voodoo and black magic (from Liberia), still talking to his ex the whole time. Adriana saged her apartment after learning this. Noticed that good things happened when she stopped talking to him and bad things (car broke down, grandma died, friend-zoned) when she went back to talking to him. Met the ex at a bar who showed her proof of his voodoo involvement.

Adriana Almost Participates in Voodoo Man's Life Spiral

07:17:40
OtherHunter shares she's been on dates with two men over 65. Met one at Nobu on her birthday — he flies helicopters with Harrison Ford's stunt double, sent her $500 on her birthday. Met another through mutual friend. Describes them as "sweet and gentle." Brian questions if this is sugar dating; Hunter says she never had sex with either.

Hunter Dates Men Over 65 Including Helicopter Pilot

07:48:14
OtherBrian offers a $2 bill to whoever answers the body count question (all had declined). Adriana accepts and reveals her body count. Then explains her first sexual experience made her think men only love her for sex, leading to her pattern. Lindsay responds supportively. Q explains evolutionary male response to high body count.

Adriana Reveals High Body Count for $2 Bill

08:15:00
OtherFresh (of Fresh & Fit podcast) sends a $30 TTS roast during the show directed at Daisy: "Daisy I knocked you up briefly but you f***ed me up permanently. I could have given you the world. Even let you continue OF and film with other ninjas as long as you were with me." Daisy reacts with "no you didn't."

Fresh Sends Roast During Live Show

Topics Discussed

00:00:09
Show intro & announcements

Brian introduces the show, explains donation/TTS system, StreamLabs, merch, Discord. Story about kicking out a belligerent woman who called him the n-word.

00:05:05
Guest introductions

All 7 guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation, education). Aaliyah: 25, LA, UGC/metaphysics bachelor, OnlyFans. Daisy: 30, China/NY, content creator/fashion degree. Adriana: 22, Boston/LA, dancer/psych-bio major. Nicole/Freda: 18, Houston, UCSB biology. Lindsay: 36, Wisconsin, sales rep/journalism. Dila: 29, Italy/Valencia, English teacher/PA. Hunter Marie: 25, OC/LA, oral surgery assistant/trade school.

00:21:10
Relationship status round

Brian asks each guest about current relationship status, longest relationship, recent dating activity. Q is taken (3-year relationship). Adriana recently friend-zoned/ghosted. Nicole/Freda in 4-month relationship. Lindsay single 1+ year. Dila engaged. Aaliyah single 6 months (has 7-year-old). Hunter single 3 years. Daisy single ~1 year post-Walter.

00:50:51
Ashley St. Clair / Elon Musk baby mama drama

Brian presents the story of Ashley St. Clair (conservative political pundit, Whatever hater for 2+ years) announcing she had Elon Musk's baby 5 months ago and filing a lawsuit for sole custody/paternity/child support. Evidence from Signal messages (photographed with secondary phone) shows she planned to get pregnant by Elon. Panel reacts: predatory, premeditated, hypocritical given her conservative family-values messaging. She had tweeted "no sin as cruel as alienating a child from a parent" while now seeking sole custody. Her anti-Trump attorney also notable. Brian played clips from her prior attacks on Whatever.

01:01:00
Daisy delusional calculator

Brian runs the delusional dating calculator for Daisy: wants a man aged 30-45, not obese, minimum 5'10", any race, makes $1M+/year. Result: 0.034% probability — 5 out of 5 cats (delusional).

03:06:32
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10, can't pick 7. Ratings: Aaliyah=10 (joking), Daisy=10 most of the time, Adriana (skipped/6 face), Nicole/Freda=6, Lindsay=8 (for her age), Dila=10 (under pressure), Hunter=7.5, Q=5.8. Brian rates himself 5. Then asks what 1000 men would rate them: Aaliyah=8, Daisy=8, Adriana=6, Dila=5-6, Hunter=8-9. Donor Michael Jones rated them: chair 1=7, 7, 5, 4, 3, 4, 6, 5, Q and Brian both TBD.

03:14:00
AI age filter & gender swap segment

AI age filter applied to each guest showing them in 30-35 years. Gender-swap AI filters also used. Notable: Adriana's male version looks like her dad. Hunter's aged version compared to Lindsay Lohan. Nicole/Freda's male version looks Ethiopian/too feminine. Daisy aged up looks Latina. Brian's young photo shown (~21 years old, thinner). Lindsay's male version looks like Edward Norton.

03:15:30
Better looking in 10 years discussion

Brian asks each guest if they'll be better looking in 10 years. Results: Aaliyah uncertain, Daisy no at 40, Adriana yes at 32 (peak), Nicole/Freda no at 28, Lindsay yes now vs 26, Dila yes at 28, Hunter yes at 35 (peak at 35-45).

03:18:20
Men falling in love first / male commitment dynamics

Q argues research shows men fall in love first and value relationships more (due to scarcity). Women have more options so are less invested early. Most men don't have leverage to leave relationships. Debate about whether women are seeking men out of their league. Lindsay shares being The Other Woman without knowing it.

03:45:00
Aaliyah: oracle/psychic/divine feminine

Discussion of Aaliyah's oracle/psychic identity, divine feminine philosophy, Instagram posts about dark femininity, body as altar. Brian criticizes Aaliyah's OnlyFans as incompatible with her traditional/feminine values messaging. Instagram posts shown including provocative captions. Debate about whether her agency-written OnlyFans bio ("Perfect online girlfriend") is her responsibility.

04:15:00
Dating as a single mom / Aaliyah's dating stories

Aaliyah shares dating stories: helicopter tour first date, Beverly Hills dinner with private driver who handed out $100 bills, gun altercation with drug dealer where police helicopter followed them, doctor offered free Botox then tried to make her sugar baby.

04:43:20
OnlyFans, sex work, and traditional values debate

Extended debate triggered by Aaliyah and Daisy doing OnlyFans while demanding traditional men (providers, courtship, protectors). Brian argues this is contradictory — you can't demand gentlemanly treatment while producing pornographic content. Q argues submission comes from genuine attraction, not financial provision. Q shares story of client who spent $20k on an OnlyFans woman who faked love. Lindsay talks about having no boundaries in her 20s vs now having discernment. Adriana defends waitressing vs OnlyFans. Panel divided on whether body count and sex work are relevant to relationships.

06:03:20
Body count discussion

Extended discussion on body count — whether it matters, whether women should disclose, Adriana shares her high body count story (first sexual experience made her think men only want sex; $2 bill revelation). Discussion about whether past actions follow you. Q explains visceral male response to high body count is evolutionary, not rational. Lindsay discusses holding sexual standards raises the bar for men to commit.

06:06:40
Men wanting younger women discussion

Aaliyah argues men want younger women because they're easier to manipulate and avoid accountability. Brian and Q counter with biological/evolutionary explanation: fertility and youth = sexual attractiveness. Brian reverses argument: older women are MORE susceptible to manipulation because their biological clock is ticking and they desperately want kids. College girls can't be manipulated with "I want to have your babies" — they don't care. The 30+ woman can.

06:23:20
Historical/general knowledge quiz

Donor "Clay" challenges the panel with: What started WWI? (assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by Gavrilo Princip — Brian is the only one who knew). What decade was WWI? (most answered wildly wrong — 1700s, 1600s). What was the Cold War? (panel mostly clueless; Freda/Nicole guessed it was cold temperature). Brian explains correctly.

07:02:50
Income requirements for future husband

Brian asks each guest their minimum yearly income for a future husband. Results: Aaliyah=$250,000; Daisy=$1 million (NYC standard); Adriana=equal to or same as her; Nicole/Freda=more than anesthesiologist salary ($300k+); Lindsay=currently makes $80k, would like $330k, wants to be retired by a man; Dila=doesn't care about money (makes more than fiancé); Hunter=$250,000-$300,000 minimum (medical field). Brian runs delusional calculator for Hunter: 0.047% probability (35-45yo, 6ft+, $250k+, not obese, not married, any race).

07:06:40
Daisy / Fresh & Fit pregnancy discussion

Brief revisit of Daisy's situation with Fresh (Fresh & Fit podcast). Brian asks if she was really pregnant; Daisy confirms she was and took a pill. Fresh texted her Happy Valentine's Day (says it was a mistake/wrong person). Dila corroborates Daisy was genuinely in love and heartbroken. Daisy says she's moved on, grateful God closed that door, started OnlyFans afterward.

07:18:20
Height requirements discussion

Brian asks each guest their height and minimum height for a partner. Aaliyah=5'1", wants 6ft minimum. Daisy=5'6", wants 5'10"+. Adriana=prefers 5'7"-5'9". Nicole/Freda=Ethiopian preference, wants curly-haired Black man; no strong height requirement stated. Lindsay=5'9", would accept 5'9" (dated shorter). Dila=5'8" (170cm), wants 6ft. Hunter=4'11", says 6ft but has dated shorter men.

07:22:50
Bear vs man in the forest

Would you rather encounter a random man or a bear in the forest? Daisy and Dila chose bear (would befriend it). Adriana bear. Nicole/Freda refused to answer directly, wanted conditions. Hunter chose man (fantasizes about organic forest romance). Lindsay chose man. Aaliyah chose man. Brian says bear-choosers are sexist and hate men.

07:28:20
Sugar daddies / selling pics round

Quick round: Have you had a sugar daddy or sold pics? Aaliyah=yes (OnlyFans). Daisy=yes (billionaire boyfriend paid for lifestyle). Adriana=yes (guy at club paid $1k for her to stay, Zelled money for weeks then disappeared). Nicole/Freda=yes went on dates with older man who gave money but no sex. Lindsay=no but experienced being courted and paid for dates. Dila=sort of (guy in relationship Zelled money without asking). Hunter=yes has ~2-3 sugar daddy figures who help but no romantic/sexual contact.

07:58:20
Gender pay gap and equal rights debate

Brian challenges: Aaliyah and Daisy say women don't have equal rights (pay gap) but also want traditional men to be providers. Brian explains the gender pay gap shrinks to 1 cent on the dollar when controlling for field, hours, geography. Argues Society is actually more comfortable for women than men (men: majority in prison, drug addiction, suicide, homeless, workplace deaths). Women have dual option: boss babe career OR stay-at-home wife. Men have only one path: provide or be undesirable. Aaliyah suggests menstrual cycles mean 9-to-5 is designed for men's biology (cycles every 24 hours vs women's 28 days).

08:00:00
Roast session ($30 TTS)

Final roast session where viewers send $29.99-$30 roasts of the panel. Notable roasts include Fresh texting Daisy, rating Brian's looks (5-6 from most guests, 10 from Hunter), Fresh sends a roast directly. Brian asks panel to rate his looks then reflects on being older/heavier than his younger self in photos.

08:08:20
Makeup removal / show outro

Aaliyah removes her makeup on air (using dissolving makeup pad). Final show notes. Brian wraps up, announces next Tuesday show at 5pm Pacific. Twitch raid to Ziko (League of Legends player).

Transcript

Page 7 of 10
05:33:04
Brian Atlasintegrity it says the quality of being honest sincere and having strong moral principles yes do you think you don't think there's any sort of sexual
05:33:15
Aaliyahimmorality when it comes to being a sex worker no cuz I'm single so me connecting with my
05:33:26
Aaliyahsensuality is for me and myself if a man came into my life that's then for him wait let me ask you a question um what do you think is sexually moral
05:33:38
Aaliyahsexually moral like do you think being a porn star is is like sexually moral I mean I don't judge cuz like I don't know how that could work for some people but
05:33:47
Aaliyahfor me personally no like I don't think like that's sexually moral wait so double negative so it is sexually moral
05:33:57
Aaliyahno it's not I'm saying moral not immoral what are you saying I think that being a porn star to me wouldn't be something that I want wanted to do or
05:34:08
Aaliyahthat would be integral because I know myself and I know that I yeah you do o though you're but I'm not absorbing like someone else's energy sure but you're
05:34:19
Aaliyahdoing solo pornographic content modeling I guess yeah are you nude like 99% of the time
05:34:29
Lindsayno okay but some of the time yes like how would you feel about a man doing naked photo shoots though if a man if a m UL man's like well yes I sell Dick
05:34:40
TTS/Donationspicss how would you feel about that I think that's a feminine thing oh my God girl okay all right yo CLA thank you for the donated
05:34:52
TTS/Donations$200 do you have different women on this cast or do you change the M I normally just listen to their crazy chatter kind of seems like every one one is
05:35:02
Brian Atlasinterchangeable to the ones before uh it's a good point Clan thank you uh thank you for the TTS Clan no we we have new people on the panel uh okay Christopher Murphy chair one get back in the crystal you keep using the phrase
05:35:15
Brian Atlasenergy to avoid accountability for your degenerate Life Choices you don't deserve chivalry yeah I mean I don't think she's she's going to bite on it um I'm not really sure how to explain it
05:35:27
Brian Atlasbut yeah it's just uh let me ask you this do you think men who are not gentlemen Des deserve a
05:35:40
Aaliyahlady do they deserve a woman who's a lady I mean perhaps but will it keep her soft and will it keep her like a lady in
05:35:51
Brian Atlasthe long term okay all right I guess there there's your answer there all right uh I'm going to blast through the rest of the notes here because I we can't linger too long on this uh let's see what else
05:36:02
Brian AtlasI'm going to finish up your notes here really quick so uh wait oh no hold on the real gold uh you said in general that that God needs to be the center of a relationship the
05:36:16
Brian Atlasrelationship can't just be self-fulfilling it needs to have a bigger purpose besides just each person's needs are you religious um I've been going to church but no I didn't like grow up religious are you
05:36:27
Brian AtlasChristian my like family was Christian which I mean when you go to church what do you go to a Christian Church yes is it Protestant non- denomination what
05:36:38
Aaliyahdenomination I don't know you just go to church and you is it Lutheran Protestant no I don't even know
05:36:47
Brian Atlasthe difference Catholic no not Catholic you just go to a church yes okay God needs to be the center of a relationship which God Jesus what what
05:36:58
AaliyahGod are we talking about no not Jesus I think now we're going into like the definition of God but I think God like the Purity and like the Creator MH um
05:37:12
Aaliyahneeds to be at the center of a relationship let me ask you a question do you believe in Satan no Satan oh okay you don't believe in Satan no but you you believe in God
05:37:24
Brian Atlasyes okay this next question wouldn't make sense then um all right I'm just going to move it on um do you think God how about this do you think God wants
05:37:34
Aaliyahyou to be doing porn I think God made women naturally sensual answer the question though do you think go sure fine do you think God wants you to be doing
05:37:46
Aaliyahporn I think the emphasis should be on men lusting as opposed to cuz that's like an actual sin versus like a woman just being sensual are you you're being serious
05:37:58
Aaliyahright biting the hand wait so I'm not saying that like I'm saying like that should be the emphasis if we're actually talking
05:38:07
Aaliyahabsolutely men have put put a demand on the market uh does God want you to do porn if I'm like intentional with it and I'm connected to myself and I'm
05:38:19
Qliterally just in my sensual energy and I take pictures in that moment then I don't see that like God would like look down upon that you don't see anything wrong with eliciting the lust that you said men should control if there wasn't
05:38:32
Aaliyahyou're literally saying making money off the fact that like any if there wasn't a demand for it there's just a demand for it so the way that there's a demand is channeled the way that it is there's aand for there's a demand for crack too
05:38:43
Brian Atlasbut does that mean you going to sell it do you believe in sin yes okay so like a component of adultery is like inducing into lust so you are inducing men to
05:38:55
Unknown (minor)lust so you're sinning it's already there I'm naturally sensual they take it the way that they do I can't didn't you say are you messing with that I feel like she could
05:39:06
Unknown (minor)be bro she could be trolling I don't know didn't you mention something about purity yes I think that sensuality is pure you think you think I think she believes this [ __ ] she does she's
05:39:18
Qrationalized it she's rationalized it you believe selling yourself for money indicates Purity I think sensuality has
05:39:33
Brian Atlasvalue what kind of psychedelic drugs have you taken I don't do those mushrooms LSD all right I'm moving it on um God needs to be the
05:39:44
Brian Atlascenter of a relationship only fans okay um women lead standards and if we all raise them then men would have to meet us there as
05:39:54
Brian AtlasW woman women woman we shouldn't go blindly into dating and know exactly what we want okay yeah all right lead women lead
05:40:06
Aaliyahstandards if we all raise them I don't think the problem is women's standards are too high I think right now like having kids like without
05:40:17
Aaliyahlike a two parent household like all of that comes from women not having like higher standards if they required more from men there' be less casual sex there would be more that like the man would
05:40:30
Aaliyahhave to step up to the plate in order to like create the union but I think standards are very low and casual sex is a thing and and that that is like the modern dating world where I'm getting
05:40:41
Lindsayconfused is I I appreciate what you're saying and I can be on board for that where it's conflicting for me though is what you're doing and you're also exuding a lot of
05:40:52
Lindsaysex so it's like all these things things sound great and I honest to God like I will own the mistakes I made in my past but I am trying to do the things that
05:41:03
Lindsayyou're saying to call in that sacred Union that sacred part ship yeah but you're saying you you're going to do what you're doing until that man steps
05:41:13
Brian Atlasin I'm living from what you're saying it I not no into the mic into the mic but I I do want to move things on quickly here because we have a lot to get to so I'm good oh okay um here I'm
05:41:25
Brian Atlasjust going to finish your notes then uh that a woman can't ever really be in her feminine energy fully without the right man to ease life and help turn off her brain okay women have been brainwashed to believe they exist for a man and
05:41:38
Brian Atlaspleasing him comes first and it takes away the actual power of a woman cause she's her most radiant and nurturing when her cup is filled with blank I didn't I don't know if there was a rest to
05:41:48
Aaliyahthat uh that woman had been brainwashed yeah I think so but her her cup is filled with what when just her cup is filled in general oh cup is filled okay
05:41:59
Brian Atlasum I actually think it's the reverse that when she's empty she's no I think it's it's men have been brainwashed to also been brainwashed women always
05:42:08
Brian Atlasprioritize themselves well I'm speaking as a woman but yes men have also been brainwashed okay she agrees with me okay cool love you said love can't exist in survival mode okay so like if a woman's
05:42:20
Aaliyahanxious or some [ __ ] can't exist if a man's not providing and protecting there can't actually be love you're too caught up in what you're going to pay for next
05:42:32
Brian Atlasand how you're going to survive and I don't think that I think like you can't have love that okay you said men shouldn't pursue unless they have their life together there shouldn't be woman playing Bob the Builder it only hinders
05:42:44
Brian Atlasa man to feel enough and not go all in on his goals it makes men lazy mention Pursuit so like mention Pursuit unless they're like ready to be providers kind of is that what you're saying yeah
05:42:54
Aaliyahunless they're like ready to like have a family and like take care or at least in a position to be there so like broke gu shouldn't date no okay so like men of like a lower socioeconomic class
05:43:07
Aaliyahshouldn't date or reproduce I mean why would they want to why would they want to bring a child into that that's just a selfish reason because biological imperative some
05:43:19
Aaliyahpeople just want to like and get married and like that's it but do you think like men who are like let's say men but there all there's still a possibility and I think as a man you should take responsibility as a provider and be like even if that does happen I want to be
05:43:33
Brian Atlasable to take care okay so do you think a guy who makes less than 50k or year should he not reproduce it's not that he shouldn't reproduce it's like why would it's not that he shouldn't reproduce he shouldn't
05:43:45
Aaliyahwhat why would you want to bring a child into that under 50K a year no I mean I just don't know how you would maybe some people do like maybe if you're like on a farm people all over
05:43:57
Brian Atlasthe world do it if you're like in a like on a farmland or you're living more natural then yeah I'm sure that okay so just to be clear your your position is Men Of A Certain socio economic class
05:44:08
Aaliyahshould not pursue women and by like how much it's if they're living if they could provide for their living let's say they let's say they're going to struggle means let's say he's going to struggle
05:44:19
Aaliyahbut he still wants a family a wife and kids why would you want to bring children into that because what oh my god
05:44:28
Lindsayum why would you want to bring children into struggle life is struggle my dad bread winner until I was about 10 years old my parents did it together my dad wasn't a breadwinner until I left the
05:44:40
Aaliyahhouse yeah I don't think well yeah obviously I can say I come from the same situation but my personal belief is that I think if we had more men taking that serious and saying I'm going to live
05:44:51
Aaliyahwithin my means that we would have a better world women wouldn't struggle they wouldn't feel like they have to work and they don't have time for their kids and now people have trauma like you you think it's men who you think it's
05:45:02
Aaliyahmen who's not living within their means cuz cuz I woman you can't afford if you choose a woman and then you guys can't live within your means like you did that cuz you let it well last time I checked when you get in a relationship
05:45:15
Qwith a woman and it's the wrong woman she wants everything she's insatiable she's the one who wants to live outside your means a lot of times guys are content with what they make in their
05:45:25
Qjobs in their careers it's women that come along and you know make it exacerbate the situation I need this I need that I want this I want that they
05:45:35
Aaliyahbe living they Liv means but so okay guys who are making less than 50k a year should they not have kids if they can live within their means and they have a wife that lives within that means as
05:45:48
Brian Atlaswell or wants to live within that means as well but okay should people of a certain socioeconomic class not reproduce it's not about certain class it's about can
05:45:59
Aaliyahyou live within your means so then broke means nothing it's just nebulous cuz it's relative if like much bills and you make this much you shouldn't Pro like recreate children
05:46:12
Brian Atlasinto that environment okay cool you've just advocated for eugenics for what Eugenics you're you're a eugenicist what is
05:46:22
Aaliyahthat okay I'm going to move it on my personal belief do people do it all the time there's thousands of like situations like that there's lots of homelessness there's lots of people that
05:46:35
Aaliyahgo through so much trauma and and going to drugs and then like whatever you only you only thinking about America think about the world like okay if that they're living within their meemes then yes if that's how they live and they can live within
05:46:48
Brian Atlastheir means then yes they they can should all right uh next thing here you said uh a woman is more than her physical body and Body Count a woman is ever unfolding and it depends on my man
05:46:59
Brian Atlasat hand if he gets her to blo gets her to bloom and unlock before him what I'll read it one more time a woman is more than her physical body and Body
05:47:11
LindsayCount a woman is ever unfolding and it depends on my man at hand if he gets her to bloom and unlock before him did you read David deta do you know who that is oh you talk like
05:47:23
Brian Atlasthose books um okay we're going to open this up to the panel because we're now talking about body counts um uh okay a woman is more than her physical body and Body Count I agree but
05:47:35
Brian AtlasI also think men care about body body count so um do you have a problem there actually you do in the questionnaire you said are men insecure for caring about women's body count you
05:47:45
Brian Atlassaid yes Daisy you said yes uh yes do you think they're insecure I think I talked about this the
05:47:55
Adrianalast time I was here I think it depends um like if you if a man has a high body count and it expects a woman
05:48:04
Adrianato not have a high body count I think that shouldn't be a thing but if a man like he's saving himself for marriage and he has a low body count or no body
05:48:14
Brian Atlascount and he expects that from a woman as well I think that's valid okay sure kind of a different thing um what do you think over there in the corner oh body counts yeah like do you think man do you
05:48:27
Dilathink a man is insecure for caring about a woman's body count I don't even understand why it became like a question to ask like your body count why don't you just meet the person try to get to know her why do you need
05:48:39
Dilato know oh how many people have you slept with sure what what does it give me what does it give you after no one
05:48:46
Dilasecond like you tell me oh I had sex with XX woman mhm okay then I'm sorry is there a question like how does that affect yeah like current
05:48:58
Dilarelationship life you didn't do anything bad to me if you sllep with other people oh I can answer super your past yeah you did what you had to do you you felt that wanted to sure I mean if you're not
05:49:10
Lindsaygiving me any kind of like sexual sickness while doing sex or stuff like that like it shows discipline if a woman doesn't have a high body count it shows
05:49:19
Dilashe has discipline and she do shaming shaming I mean sh sh just because Society decided that we have to follow those rules for who and what if you feel
05:49:32
Dilacomfortable that you want to have sex with different people good for you go for until you don't give problems you shouldn't even think about oh how many people that's his business or her business M's yours why do you to care
05:49:44
Brian Atlasabout that we'll talk we're going to talk all about that uh Hunter your position are men insecure for caring about a woman's body
05:49:53
Brian Atlascount no no okay that's fine uh so what we're going to do is we're going to go around the table if body count really doesn't matter matter it's not a big deal what's your body count I don't share that oh but I thought it doesn't
05:50:05
Aaliyahmatter scoot to the table you're too far from the mic go ahead I wouldn't share that why because I thought it doesn't matter I don't think it does oh people
05:50:16
Aaliyahare always looking for something to judge and whether it's one or whether it's whatever number like I personally don't think it matters so I thought
05:50:24
Brian Atlasyou're a sensual woman uhhuh so mean I have to it's just a manifestation of your sensuality the numerous men that you've
05:50:35
Brian Atlashad sex with think i' never said that but that's it's just your sensuality and I don't freely have sex with people oh you charge them no have you ever charged
05:50:45
Brian Atlasa guy for sex no really yes okay well uh you know what hold on we're going to um Adriana Adriana share the
05:50:57
AdrianaDeets um before you guys attack me we won't attack you there will be no J this isn't who I am as a person can tilt your mic down a little bit yeah this isn't who I
05:51:07
Adrianaam as a person anymore I've grown I've changed I've gone to therapy I've done some healing I've seek new religious
05:51:18
Adrianabeliefs um I've I've had my college phases and I've had my delusional phases 22 Yeah Yeah so um I've made um 95
05:51:34
Qmistakes 95 mistakes
05:51:39
Qdoes anybody remember when I said earlier I was wondering what was wrong uhoh with you oh and the commitment that
05:51:50
Qyou couldn't get and you you see what I'm saying you just questioned it so how does that like what makes me the problem wait hold on wait wait before not necessarily makes you the problem but
05:52:02
Brian AtlasI'll explain it after Brian says what he says I I'll get you in here in just a sec here and wait just so 22 and you said it's 95 wait will you scroll show here Daman uh yeah if you can get your
05:52:13
Brian Atlasphone while she's getting her phone she's got a list she's going to scroll through the list uh body
05:52:20
Freda (Nicole)count I think that's Daisy that's private Daisy uh okay um body count um I had a conversation with my boyfriend before I came over here and he requested
05:52:33
Brian Atlasthat I do not talk about anything like that so I'm going to respect his wish who who's who's going to vag up who's going to V up and say their body count what the about you okay and I will own
05:52:45
Lindsaythis and this is where shame comes into play Own It own it girl go off Queen six were within commitment yeah cuz that's where I feel safest giving my body I was
05:52:57
Lindsayalso that woman who was loose with boundaries and yes there were four other men that I slept with so my body count is 10 I hold personal shame with that because the men that I did not have
05:53:08
Lindsaycommitment with and I slept with I felt shitty after those sexual experiences so this is yeah okay um do you want to do a range Daisy I mean why would we be
05:53:19
Daisyshamed about like having sex that's just no shame yeah there's no shame what's wrong with having multip for a range just
05:53:29
Daisylike human being like is it 50 to 100 20 to 30 what is it more than zero give
05:53:38
Daisyus I think I think it's couple hundred around couple hundred yeah oh yeah yeah see no sh no shame I'm not shamed about that I just feel like that's private why
05:53:49
Daisywould I yeah why would I answer that like in the high hundreds or like the low hundreds or what do you mean High hundreds two to three or like like 100
05:54:00
Lindsayto 200 I don't count why I that's fine no that's fine I don't look down on you I that's I want that to be nobody's looking down that's do you want
05:54:08
Brian Atlasto do range or no okay range give us a r come on you you've put your sensuality on a certain amount of
05:54:19
Daisymen I don't know where I'm going with this okay uh body count it's under a
05:54:27
Brian Atlas[Laughter] thousand it's a number she's [ __ ] 999 999 that's 18 years old 0 she got you
05:54:37
Brian Atlasbeat all right what about you body count I don't even like into the mic into the guys guys guys I don't like the subject so I would just no answer sorry uh I thought the past doesn't matter though before you said the past doesn't matter
05:54:51
Adrianabut it clearly does believe that conversation is very shaming and so I would like to engage about it did I call anybody here A Hoe when I first told I will be fair when I first told Brian cuz
05:55:03
DilaI told him off camera and he was very I was respectful very respect about it but I'm online and other people and I don't feel comfortable to share this information you guys here just tell us the past
05:55:15
Dilamatters just say the past matters then say the past matters well I am who I am thanks to my past but that still doesn't Define me who I was like last year and completely a different person from last year yeah
05:55:27
Hunteryeah okay uh Hunter what about you -2 um I just to share I don't want to share range give us a range um Range
05:55:37
Hunteryeah 10 to 20 what something like that I declined to share I'm so sorry uh do you want to give a range
05:55:48
Brian AtlasItalia I don't I don't want to participate in this question I don't know it seems like body count kind of matters if you're just unwilling to reveal it um I think that
05:56:01
Lindsayreally doesn't matter I don't think guy cares guys doesn't can you show wait hold on lift up your phone can they see can they see I don't think they can see the names turn your brightness down oh you wrote down all
05:56:11
Brian Atlasyour guys I did that too I did I did it for like she's going to scroll through the the list of names we can't see that yeah little no keep scrolling that's it ends right here
05:56:23
Brian Atlasit's just like blank at the end and you said 95 yeah okay would you do it and then write it in there yeah by the way W for I want to give you credit for the women who did share thank you for sharing it's it it takes a lot because
05:56:35
Adrianait's something I've actually never really told anyone besides like my two best friends and it's something that I'm like very like insecure about um but you know it's just it's not who I am anymore
05:56:46
AdrianaI've grown from it we're trying to say is we felt shame being in that and you guys are doing it what happened to me is a lot of the situations I was in it's
05:56:57
Adrianalike I I used to think that this guy is only going to commit to me if I give something up and I would give that up and then he would dip and it was just like a constant cycle of like doing that
05:57:08
Adrianaand thinking that's all men wanted yeah and I think that was a mistake on my behalf but it also it kind of [ __ ] me up in a way because there were situations where guys you know they would try to pursue me in that way and
05:57:20
Adrianathen I would say no and then they would leave me because I would say no so then I started saying yes more often and it was just like I could never win so I just kind of did whatever at that point
05:57:30
Adrianayou know couple questions uh what how many in a 24 period oh I've never like done it more like in a 20 like more than one person
05:57:42
Adrianain a 24hour perod hour period not even that 72-hour period I mean I don't remember two two weeks of fortnite maybe two weeks fortnite how many in a fortnite what do you mean that's two
05:57:54
Adrianaweeks a fortnite is two weeks I don't know maybe like one or two I don't know it was never like oh wa how old were you when you lost your virginity 13
05:58:09
Brian Atlasokay nice uh cool I guess yeah uh or not cool I don't know not cool I don't know uh okay uh it was it was a [ __ ] up situation what year at what age was your
05:58:20
Brian Atlascraziest year for the bodies I would say like 17 18 High School okay great yeah in senior
05:58:30
Adrianajunior year senior yeah senior junior year and it was like high school guys yeah it was like everyone like in high schoolone not everyone in high scho but everyone who I was with was either
05:58:42
Brian Atlasusually in high school or had like just graduated like it was always like usually my age R my age range um was there a month that it just went down like crazy you know like crazy um I
05:58:55
Adrianawould definitely say when I first moved here a year ago oh honestly ever since I moved here a year ago it's been like down like I've just like it went down oh I thought it went up
05:59:06
Brian Atlasoh how when it went up you came here to La no when I came here to La it definitely went down a lot but when I was in high school it it where where did you grow up in Boston oh duh slip my
05:59:18
Freda (Nicole)mind Bost Boston it goes it's cold in Boston there's nothing else to do all you can do is [ __ ] exactly no you can sit in parking lots and sit around a fire that's what we did all the time every every weekend you go sit in a
05:59:30
Adrianarandom parking lot or you sit around 7even hang out yeah yes but those parking those part parking lot seatings turned into a lot of things so you how many like of all the bodies like how
05:59:42
Adrianamany of them were in cars I I have to go back and count I don't know of them I mean some of them I did it multiple times with them cuzz I was like sure of course trying to actively seek a relationship with them
05:59:54
Brian Atlasor I was in a relationship with them cool congrats proud of you thank you I are you do you are you going to try to keep it under a 100 though cuz you only
06:00:04
Adrianagot four bodies my next body to be the last one quite frankly like I'm done like I'm just you know I wish you luck thank you I wish you
06:00:15
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TTS/Donationssee her true self only one that has a brain is chair five oh there you go rest of fod Canon fod what the don't what does it me Canon can and F I don't even know what that mean oh you want to draft
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Brian Atlasthem I agree we should draft women we should send women to war um thank you clay I appreciate it Michael Jones says I go to church I don't know which one can you stop asking these questions I don't have enough cognitive ability to
06:00:51
Brian Atlaskeep deflecting like this you want to respond to Michael Jones I just started going to church do you want to look into this camera and give him a wink that's good congrats good job proud
06:01:01
Brian Atlasof you all right um jeez body count okay we did the body count thing that was really good um I feel like I have more questions for you go for it but maybe it'll come to me
06:01:13
Lindsaylater but I don't know I think you've asked a couple when we first had this conversation that you didn't ask me today can I also point out she her vulnerability right now is super feminine like and look at how they're
06:01:25
Adrianaresponding to you they're like Curious they're trying to comfort you like this is the I appreciate because when I when I first came on this podcast I was very nervous about it cuz I thought just going to get attacked and and this is
06:01:38
Freda (Nicole)masculinity and I appreciate the positivity and the comfort that you've all given we we hung out last night oh no and we were at dinner and she goes I think I'm going to tell them my body count in the podcast where I like should I do it and I was like yeah like you
06:01:50
Adrianashould do it like be open and Hest open the did you did you know the body count I did you did yeah we've known each other since we were 12 so she's she's seen me go through these wait Damian can
06:02:01
Brian Atlasyou pull up the male version of her though the photo oh oh do you want to see a picture of my dad I'm okay don't wait no cuz I just I was
06:02:11
Brian Atlaslike uh the gender swap for for um Adriana I'm okay I'm good I'm all
06:02:23
Brian Atlasright cuz if you like they put glasses on you literally bro this guy do you think he could get a 95 body count you know what I mean do you know
06:02:35
Brian Atlaswhat I mean if he really puts his mind I think about this [ __ ] sometimes I'm like would not that out would a girl's equivalent be able to I just want to know why the head is so much smaller than the body because they had to remove
06:02:48
Freda (Nicole)the hair and the hair was already like cutting a lot about like the he just got beefy shoulders he [ __ ] that guy [ __ ] no my guy [ __ ]
06:02:58
Brian Atlasoh he [ __ ] for sure wait but okay the body count thing really quick um in Q one thing with you you said the doesn't matter right past doesn't matter I believe that
06:03:10
Dilawe are who we are in the present t to the experienceing we had in the past but we are not supposed all the time to judge somebody just because this person did something in the past mhm like we
06:03:21
Dilashould actually see the person how is right now when you're meeting it whoever he is and see how it goes do you date every single guy who shows interest in
06:03:30
Dilayou no why not I I mean dating to me when I was still single and looking for somebody I
06:03:41
Dilahad to be ready and actually emotionally able to try open myself let somebody know about my personality my V
06:03:51
Brian Atlasvulnerabilities my uh insecurities okay cool there was a period of your life where you weren't ready to date when you were ready to date were there the menu rejected
06:04:06
Brian Atlasyeah I guess so and I also got rejected okay but so I'm a little confused here you didn't make judgments about
06:04:15
Dilathese men you you clearly judged that they weren't a good match for you and what was the criteria and the metrics personality if I want to have a relationship with somebody I have to be
06:04:27
Dilaemotionally connected like the personality and how I feel like if I feel good with this person like my boyfriend right now Gabriel he makes me feel so comfortable with
06:04:38
Dilaboyfriend or girlfriend boyfriend gabri he Italian like me Italian yeah yeah yeah yeah no Gabriella Gabrielle gra okay yeah yeah yeah with a e at end
06:04:48
Dilathank you yeah problem sorry I'm American stupid American he made he makes me feel good I feel comfortable with myself and why do you judge these men who didn't make you feel good I didn't judge them you Jud oh you judged
06:05:00
Brian Atlasthem you didn't tell them I like I spoke to them I just finished the oh but I don't get it women are like she was just talking women are known for being like really picky and I
06:05:13
Brian Atlasdon't object to that but women are really picky when it comes to hold on hold on women are really picky when it comes to the men that they deal with when they the men they date the men they
06:05:22
Brian Atlassleep with y'all are really picky and you guys will turn down reject men for a long list of different things it could be how they look it could be their
06:05:32
Brian Atlaspersonality it could be their lack of money resources whatever it is that's you judging the guy by default because you're saying bad
06:05:43
Qmate it's good mate bad mate potential mate good mate M bad mate men does it too yes oh you're 100% right we didn't we're not disputing that but 100% guess
06:05:54
Dilasaid that's for you like you want to use the word judgment yeah then I judged but honestly if I like I feel comfortable to talk to you talk to you I'm not feeling
06:06:04
Dilauncomfortable so I'm quite okay to be here if maybe I went on a date and this person wasn't making me feel really comfortable yeah then I judged him and I
06:06:15
Qjust said Hey listen I don't feel really that we connect that well so thank you and that's it but we we accept that though I don't have a problem with the fact that women judge because at the end of the day it is mate selection you
06:06:27
Qtalking about somebody that you would potentially be pregnant by so of course you have to be more careful and Discerning and selective with who you let inside your pants but I wanted to ask you because you said past Behavior
06:06:39
Qdoesn't matter what do you think the best predictor of future behavior is H this is a hard question honestly [Music]
06:06:49
Dilaso who's more based on based on my relationship uh what made me feel that Gabriel it fit for me is that every time I felt that there was some lacking in our relationship we could have a
06:07:02
Dilacommunication and you would tell me how he felt what made him feel uncomfortable about my behavior and like hey also this one makes doesn't make me really feel good or this one I love when you do this
06:07:12
Dilacommunication like trying to be in the same line so that I do not dis disrespect you you do not disrespect me no shaming no judgment it's just like
06:07:23
Dilatrying to be as loving and AC accept accepting accepting one another um I'm I don't want to be like oh you did that I know that that puts you like in a
06:07:34
Qsituation something when maybe you didn't want to do that you know I know but I just want you to think about it really quickly think about what the best predictor of future behavior is and I'll
06:07:45
Qgive you an example yeah go ahead we have credit scores right yeah we have transcripts right transcript school transcripts like your grades how we have those things right so when you look at
06:07:58
Qthings like that when people are evaluating if they should take a chance on you we look at what you've been known to do right we look at behavioral patterns your
06:08:09
QTendencies right so when you say you don't think body count should matter what body count does is convey a pattern about your sexual behavior it conveys a
06:08:19
Qpattern about your sexual selectivity it tells me as a guy that you're either really desperate you don't have a very selective mind when it comes to the type
06:08:31
Qof guys that you get with and that makes me believe that you be more like liable to cheat or you like essentially it would [ __ ] up commitment I wouldn't be able to carry a long-term relationship with you and you have to understand this
06:08:43
Qis from the male's perspective when he's evaluating if a woman has a high body count and I will say the magnitude in which it does matter is very important because when you work with guys who are second guest in their relationship I had
06:08:55
Qa client who was married for 30s something years and he had just found out that his wife had a promiscuous pass and she is the perfect wife in his eyes but he was really conflicted when she
06:09:07
Qrevealed to him the guys that she slept with long before she met him and he was contemplating divorce that's how serious it was and I had another client who was dating a girl in college and he found
06:09:19
Qout where her body count was and it [ __ ] with him to the point to where he didn't know if he want to continue dating her because one it can be embarrassing as a guy to date a woman
06:09:28
Dilawhere every guy has had that's it like socially you you got the town like let's say that this is the first time actually somebody's explaining it
06:09:39
Dilain a more psychological way because usually on internet what's her body guard oh she's a slot she's that it's very overwhelming when you see all this judgment online most but I understand
06:09:50
Dilayour point of view mostly like the psychological impact that will give to the person when these information comes I have to be honest we me and my boyfriend had this conversation and we've been very honest about it I have a
06:10:02
Dilahigher B account than him he always always and always had really long relationships and he had just only two hookups and then he met me cuz he's
06:10:13
Dilayounger and I met him when he was 19 okay and we spent one year just as friends and then we actually developed feelings but we accepted each other but we started as
06:10:25
Dilajust friends wasn't [ __ ] bodies literally friends cuz I just I was in Italy for Chinese New Year Co hit I couldn't go back home I was stuck there
06:10:34
Dilamy whole life life lost and I was lonely cuz my friends were everywhere in continent except that City apart two people and my family than God he was a
06:10:46
Dilasupport to me he was funny he was caring he understood even if he never traveled lit never traveled he was enough empath to me to understand what I was leing when I wasn't even understanding I was
06:10:57
Dilain depression I didn't know that cuz it it was so surreal to not be even able to exit and go to the supermarket on you
06:11:06
Dilaknow those those things that we took for granted and I guess I am lucky because I met him in the right time and he accepted me but yeah I understand you
06:11:18
Qguys by saying Hey to us is important to know these yeah and that's all we're saying because a lot of women just Overlook it they because women essentially want to remain they want to
06:11:27
Dilauphold their purity or their sense of of I appreciate your actually point of view I wish more people would actually even online Express this body count need to
06:11:38
Lindsayknow like in your way as like very NE also brought up holding a standard and if women are just going around and sleeping with men that's literally
06:11:49
Lindsaylowering the bar where men don't feel a need to court to pursue yeah true so us women are literally creating our own demise yeah and and what's her name alah said it earlier she said she said when
06:12:01
Qshe said uh women have lowered the standards but you can think the sexual Revolution sexual Liberation for that because if women believe that they can engage in casual sex too you doing the guy a favor because if he sees that he
06:12:13
Adrianadoesn't have to commit to you in order to get it in your instance unfortunately that's what we're going to do can I add to that um like would a man like rather me like lie about that situation or just
06:12:25
Adrianalike be cuz like that's my past and that's nothing I can change but like it doesn't reflect on like how it would be in a relationship and who I am now you know what I mean obviously I was like
06:12:34
Adrianayoung and I and like I just thought the wrong way about life because of like honestly because of my first body I think that's what made me think the way
06:12:44
AdrianaI thought like a guy will only love me if I give this up um and I'm like I'm not saying like oh like I'm sleeping around and I'm just being easy but it's just like that's what I that's what
06:12:57
Lindsaypeople made me thought at such a young age and that caused me to like fall into this hole of just like yeah sorry I was just going to say that the way you're vulnerably sharing it's really hard
06:13:08
Adrianabecause before I was very hesitant to share because I I was telling Brian like I feel like this is going to affect my future relationships like people aren't going to Value me or try to seek me the way they did before they knew that you
06:13:20
Adrianaknow what I mean people are going to treat me differently just because of something I did when I was [ __ ] up in the head and like going through it but like now that I've like learned and grown and gone through the emotions gone
06:13:32
Adrianathrough the waves it's like now I'm a whole new person a whole different person and I'm still going to get treated the like the person I was 5 10 years ago you know what I mean yeah I mean that's that's an unfortunate
06:13:43
Qreality of life because not everybody can empathize with what you went through or understand from a perspective to where they can Overlook the fact that they may be turned off because that's
06:13:55
Qjust a visceral response like even if you even if you are a different person and you didn't do what you did in the past if a guy has a natural visceral respon to where oh no I'm I'm turned off
06:14:07
Qby that it's the same thing as women who get I from when you know men do certain things it's just something that we can't control it's a it's an evolutionary response so it's just dating is not fair
06:14:18
Qand that's one of the ways in which dating isn't fair so you make mistakes and sometimes you can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle and you have to accept the consequences that come with the mistakes that you made and you can only hope that you'll find somebody who's more accommodating and
06:14:31
Qmore understanding of your situation but that's why it goes to when you you in in as a woman when you put yourself in position to where you have diminished your sexual market value you have diminished Minister mate value you have
06:14:44
Qto be more receptive and open to the opportunities that present themselves I'm sorry I mean I get it I understand I deal with this like I work with a lot of
06:14:54
Lindsayfemale clients too so this is I also think she will she's vulnerably exp that takes more confidence than what a lot has been going on here and I think I'm a
06:15:05
Lindsayman the right man for her will see this and feel connected to that cuz I what I what I understand about feminine and masculinity a man wants to connect to a woman's heart she is showing her heart
06:15:16
Lindsayhere and I think that's going to bring more of a man that will be okay with this by the way she's showing her heart
06:15:26
Brian Atlashere okay well she'll be rejoining us um I I guess last thing on this I guess my question for you
06:15:36
Brian Atlasum uh so because earlier you're saying like oh there's this judgment and that
06:15:43
Brian Atlasthe past is the past I guess my question though is do you have an issue with guys do you it's okay do you have an issue with guys
06:15:57
Dilawho prefer to date women with a low body count like do you think that that's a problem no no that's an I mean that's it's like it's a preference right but it's their choice how can I I mean if
06:16:08
Dilayou like yellow I like black why I'm not judging you that's your life those are your choices I'm not here to tell you do or not do these that's your choice I'm not I'm not responsible for
06:16:21
Brian Atlasyour life wait did you guys say your body counts nope oh we're just asking you know what Q will reveal his if you reveal if you reveal and you reveal everybody who didn't reveal everybody
06:16:34
Dilawho didn't reveal you do it first I'll do it no we already proposed it we already initiated it it's okay we don't need to know honestly why women were
06:16:43
Dilaonly as Nine's under a million but I mean as we decided not to answer this question you also obviously have the right to not answer the question there's no problem at all yes
06:16:55
Brian Atlasof course of course um uh okay so here we're going to get we got to try to blast through all the notes here because uh there's quite a bit and uh is there a chat here we got
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Brian AtlasVisa right I'm legally here and I pay tax oh Do you have a green card no but I have my own company oh okay all right uh
06:17:40
Brian Atlasclay says high body count means a perfect side chick she has issues raise your hand if you have been a side chick one two 3 four what's a side chick side chick like what I said I was and you said that
06:17:53
Lindsaymust have been hard so you're like the mistress like the yeah I didn't know about it no no I know I remember yes essentially yeah unfortunately yes when I discover it broke my heart all right
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Brian Atlasthis as quickly as possible you say Aaliyah these are your last few notes Here romance was originally created by poor men in Renaissance time to
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Brian Atlasmanipulate woman woman man to be woman your words to be with them because prior it was about most
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Aaliyahsuitable romance was cre by poor men to manipulate women originally it was who was most suitable provider protector and then
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Aaliyahthat meant that like the rest of the men couldn't get women and then women are emotional creatures so they learned to romance them and manipulate them sure um
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Brian Atlasit was the French yeah the French yeah we we ah okay you said that men obsessed with younger younger why why why did you put quotes on
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Aaliyahyounger cuz it's not necessarily younger but just like the idea of younger the idea like more youthful looking or uhhuh
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Brian Atlasokay yeah you said that men obsessed with younger woman by the way just I want to help you out here I know the difference I was wom women and women wom
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Brian Atlasplural women singular okay or wait hold on one man no woman one man is women is plural yes okay whatever uh men obsessed with younger women is because they lack
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Brian Atlasthe depth to maintain sustainable woman's unraveling long long term because it requires them to do inner perceive to do inner work excuse me mentally evolve so instead they blame
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Brian Atlasthe woman and move on to something they perceive would be easier or less able to call them out so you think men are intimidated by older women because the older women are
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Brian Atlasnot going to Bush and okay um I don't know if this is actually the case
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Brian Atlasbut uh H or is it just that men just don't want to deal with an older woman's
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Aaliyahbaggage I mean I think there's many different factors that go like into that but a man is probably more attractive in part to like a younger woman because
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Aaliyahshe's more willing to put up with much she's not going to have to do like more account more accountability or take a look at himself whereas a woman that knows what she wants and is really
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Aaliyahlooking to like have a man be integral and do what he says he's going to do um like she'll be more on him for that why do y all assume men always want to take
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Aaliyahadvantage of younger women well I'm just saying like the topic of that the topic of that I don't think that's necessarily the case like all the time or that it means that
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Aaliyahbut but is that the general rule that you set I think overall men in general are attracted to
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Aaliyahyounger women in part because in part mature women require them to take accountability for things what's attraction what what level does
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Aaliyahattraction operate at like desire for exactly yeah yeah so what do you think the desire is to have like an easier
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Qlife or to the desire the the desire is sexual not necessarily always no no it's it's sexual necessarily it's sexual you're not going to find a man who's attracted to a younger woman and sexual
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Qdesire isn't the predominant desire that's there do you think it has something to do more with desire because you don't see the majority of men walking around with younger women when we look at studies that show that men are attracted
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Aaliyahto younger women they find them physically attractive of course I think subconsciously is more my point that would be the attraction subconsciously it's because they're more like willing
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Aaliyahto put up with stuff but it's like are they I I don't that's not true is it where'd you get that from I think in general where' you get it from even my own experience I was definitely way more
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Qwilling to put up with stuff when I was younger than I am now so you just you just believe that that's why men like younger women and also um I don't know
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Aaliyahhis name Lauren Lauren Lauren kren yeah Lauren kren also says that who who who who is that Lauren who the [ __ ] is that guy you
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Brian Atlasknow Laur I that is who who is Lauren who the [ __ ] is Lauren kren he's like he yeah it's a he yeah l o r i n Lauren
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Aaliyahcren what's he saying he says that like men are more attracted to younger women because to stay with woman over time
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Aaliyahlike it requires you to do consistent work and not just be comfortable and consistently show up whereas if you go for someone younger they're less likely
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Lindsayto do that and who is he I'm just is he a Tik tocker he's he's on Instagram he's written books um he's of the spiritual oh oh yeah that makes yeah let's just
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Brian Atlasdiscredit everything he says then um I'm just I'm just [ __ ] it there there's this uh Hitchens razor and whatever what that's IR
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Qrelevant um so this guy on Instagram said some [ __ ] so it must be true um and it sounded good to me cuz I'm a woman and it's spiritual and empowering and
06:24:46
Brian Atlasenl lovely probably he's like saying all this [ __ ] he [ __ ] the old women too but like the young girls he's going he's just going after the young you should pull them up and read stuff before you
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Brian Atlasspeak well well actually you should pull up the Bible before you okay I'm like God relationship with God is I'm halfway through the Bible yeah yeah yeah what's
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Brian Atlasit say about um being a sex worker yeah to not lust and adultery anyways whatever
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Brian Atlasum okay so you think men want younger women because younger women are like easier to manipulate is that kind of it they're younger to easier to I'm not even
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Aaliyahnecessarily saying that they are I'm saying that men probably think that way and there's other reasons of course as to why they're attracted to like younger women but I think in part if you had to steal do you know what a steel man is
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Brian AtlasSteelman no so like do you know what the straw man is this is more common so straw man would be basically like let's say you're arguing with somebody debating with somebody and so a straw
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Brian Atlasman would be you are going to forward like an inaccurate or just a wrong position that they hold and you're going to like attack it attack their position
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Brian Atlasthat you forwarded which actually isn't their position the Steelman is the opposite of that you're going to make the strongest arguments you're going to present what
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Brian Atlasthe other person their strongest arguments are so if you had to steal man men wanting to date younger women what would be like the arguments in favor of
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Brian Atlasthat from a male brain um that they're younger hotter and fertile okay fertility is part of it sure not thinking like a okay you're thinking
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Brian Atlasokay um so I think the big thing q and you talk about this quite a bit is so the I there's actually a biological and evolutionary basis for men's attraction
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Brian Atlasto younger women uh one this comes down to fertility m and this is just biologically like the reality and then um oh well I was going to go into like paternity uncertainty but that's more of
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Aaliyaha body count argument less than a like an age thing but um so that's the obvious but to also offer a different perspective and deeper perspective I
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Qthink that could be it yeah but I I mean pra practical in Practical terms I've never heard that or actually seen that like a guy's like oh yeah she's younger
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QI'm going to manipulate her like I've never seen that happen I've never heard a guy say that because because that would be a conscious thing that's why I said subconscious may I ask a question subconscious means you don't you aren't
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Qaware of it so I don't think that's happening on a subconscious level I said I think it is one thing yeah but I don't think it is one one thing before I have you come
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Brian Atlasin couldn't you make an opp sort of like a reversal of this argument of men wanting younger women because they're easier to manipulate do you agree that younger
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Brian Atlaswomen are just more desirable by men yes from a male brain yes not to say that like women who are in their late 20s 30s 40s no I don't think that but I
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Brian Atlasthink from a male brain yes but like if in terms of the attention and attraction going from men towards women I think we would agree that like younger women have
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Brian Atlasthe most optionality and they're receiving the most uh sexual attention romantic attention from men because of younger women so let's
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Brian Atlassay that between the age of 20 to 25 because that age cohort these women enjoy such an abundance of optionality and have so many choices I think I can
06:28:48
Brian Atlasmake the reverse argument that because of this because they have so many options they're harder to manipulate whereas a woman who's a bit older who's