Fake Virgin RAGE QUITS?! Cat Fight?! Body Count OVER 9000?! E-GIRLS! DEGENS! | Dating Talk #145

Date: 2024-03-20
Duration: 7h 45m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Adrien(guest)
SPEAKER_03Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lauren(guest)
SPEAKER_06TTS / Chat Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)
SPEAKER_13Molly Little(guest)
SPEAKER_14Madison(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:39
IntroBrian introduces panel: Bri, Molly Little, Lauren, Demi Hawks, Cindy Zang, Madison, Adrien, Matthew. Cindy Zang arrives ~1 hour late with alleged fresh cross neck tattoo — panel debates whether it is real or fake throughout the intro.

"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves"

00:07:42
Key MomentCindy Zang's cross neck tattoo controversy: arrived 1hr late claiming she just got tattooed. Panel skeptical (would be red, Cindy says cannot touch it). Brian has a makeup wipe. Cindy maintains it is real throughout. At end of show Brian offers the wipe again. This is a recurring bit through the entire episode.

"my name is Cindy Zang... I got tatted this morning"

00:25:00
Key MomentBri's virgin claim debated. Brian presents alleged OnlyFans account evidence (briati username). Bri admits oral sex video exists but denies penetrative intercourse. Claims intercourse videos are not her. Heart tattoo on buttock cited as identifying mark. Brian cannot show evidence on YouTube.

"I am a virgin that's not what I'm asking you have you had sex"

01:33:30
ControversyAdrien (SPEAKER_02) calls Cindy Zang repulsive, citing her lateness and performative behavior. Escalates as Bri reveals prior Twitter beef over a mutual streamer (linked to Aiden Ross's network). Cindy disputes having tweeted a fight threat; says a fan did it. Brian suggests a boxing match. Tension continues throughout the show.

"I would avoid Cindy at all cost... I'm repulsed by the personality"

02:09:09
QuoteBrian explains California community property laws in context of Ariana Grande divorce: without prenup Dalton Gomez could have claimed half of her earnings during 3-year marriage. Brian estimates he should have received alimony for ~1.5 years (half duration).

"in California there's community property so anything that you make during the marriage that's 5050"

06:24:09
Key MomentLauren (SPEAKER_05) reveals approximate body count: ~1,100 total; ~100+ just sex before escorting; "200 before formal sex work." Had 3-4 sexual partners per day at her peak when young.

"I'll be like 1,50 or maybe 1,100 how how much in how many in 2024"

06:31:30
QuoteMolly Little restates body count at end of show for new viewers: "yeah my name is Molly little and my body count is over 100."

"yeah my name is Molly little and my body count is over 100"

06:32:00
QuoteDemi Hawks restates body count: "I'm Demi Hawks and it's probably around 200."

"I'm Demi Hawks and it's probably around 200"

06:32:42
QuoteCindy Zang gives body count range when pressed: "between zero and 30."

"my name is Cindy Zing um... it's between zero and 30"

07:27:07
ControversyBri (SPEAKER_11) rage-quits when Brian asks chat if she should be removed. Bri says "I'm not going to give him the satisfaction" and walks out. Molly comments: "you can't fire me I quit." Brian later says she came on the show to be dishonest. This is the "Fake Virgin RAGE QUITS" title reference.

"I'm not going to give him the satisfaction"

07:39:05
OtherEnd of show. Brian does outro; raids Frost Adamus and Aladar on Twitch (both playing World of Warcraft). Matthew plugs watchgang.com. Brian thanks panel (exception: "except for Cindy"). Cindy apologizes for being late at very end: "I'm sorry for being late Brian." 07s in the chat. Signed off ~7:45.

"07s in the chat really appreciate the panel once again good night see you next time"

Topics Discussed

00:02:39
Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Eight guests introduce themselves: Bri (22, Miami/Panama, Finance student FSU, manifesting, OnlyFans Bible study, looking for 3 husbands), Molly Little (21, LA, porn actress, in relationship), Lauren (31, Moonlight Bunny Ranch courtesan + Tantra, single), Demi Hawks (24, LA, porn actress, in relationship), Cindy Zang (23, LA, OnlyFans/streamer, single; arrived 1hr late with cross neck tattoo), Madison (19, San Diego/SB, Whatever staff/SBCC student), Adrien (31, Salt Lake City, business owner, conservative), Matthew (38, LA, CEO watchgang.com). Cindy's tattoo authenticity debated at length.

00:16:57
Bri's 3-husband relationship model

Bri (SPEAKER_11) explains she is looking for 3 simultaneous husbands: 1) love/emotional support, 2) financial support, 3) sexual. Each husband handles their domain; she is not asking one person for everything. Has a Google form with questions including height, income, penis size. Panel debates whether she would find high-quality men willing to share her. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): men she would respect would not share her. Brian: this plan is unrealistic; the men she respects have options.

00:25:00
Bri's virgin claim controversy

Brian challenges Bri's claim to be a virgin. Bri states she is a virgin; Brian says he has received dozens of DMs with photos/videos matching her OnlyFans accounts (briati, Adeline Bri usernames). Bri admits to a video of oral sex but denies any penetrative intercourse videos. Claims videos showing intercourse are not her; others suggest tattoo matching (heart tattoo on buttock). Brian declines to pull up evidence on YouTube. Bri refuses to elaborate further.

01:33:30
Cindy Zang and Adrien conflict (cat fight)

Adrien (SPEAKER_02) calls Cindy Zang (SPEAKER_03) repulsive from early in the show, citing her lateness and what she perceives as a performative act. Escalates to Bri (SPEAKER_11) revealing prior Twitter beef with Cindy: Cindy allegedly threatened to "pull up" on Bri months earlier over a mutual streamer (connected to Aiden Ross's circle). Both claim the other started the beef. Cindy denies tweeting the threat (says a fan did it). Brian mediates; suggests a boxing match to settle it. Bri and Cindy nominally move on but tension continues.

02:06:41
Ariana Grande divorce and prenups

Panel reacts to Ariana Grande / Dalton Gomez divorce: $1.25M payment, half home proceeds, $25K attorney fees. Prenup was in place. Discussion of whether he got a fair deal. Brian: without prenup he could have claimed half of all community property earned during marriage (~$50M+). Molly and Adrien say they would sign a prenup. Adrien/Madison: would not get married without prenup. Lauren: would consider stopping sex work if partner wealthy enough for her to have children at home. Matthew: prenups protect prior assets; fair risk management tool.

02:38:30
Pornography: value, art, and impact

Bri (SPEAKER_11) says porn is not good; she did it and was depressed. Molly (SPEAKER_13) defends porn as art form — Shakespeare analogy: actors play villains so audience can experience emotions without doing the act. Adrien (SPEAKER_02) asks where the line is between art and degradation. Matthew (SPEAKER_10) critiques Bri for having built her platform on porn and now condemning it ("pulling up the ladder"). Lauren (SPEAKER_05): sex work was survival-driven early; she now enjoys it. Discussion of OnlyFans vs Playboy — girlfriend experience adds financial exploitation layer.

02:47:00
Men's biological monogamy and cheating

Bri (SPEAKER_11) argues men are biologically programmed to spread their seed and cannot be expected to be fully monogamous. Brian (SPEAKER_09) counters: humans have intellect, agency, and self-control; not beholden to base animal instincts. Bri: men cheat out of physical desire, not emotion; women cheat out of emotion. Bri herself wants 3 simultaneous husbands, undermining her monogamy argument. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): women are more pair-bond oriented by nature than men.

06:08:13
Patriarchy and wage gap debate

Debate on whether patriarchy exists and what female privilege looks like. Panel (esp. Molly SPEAKER_13) argues patriarchy is real via wage gap. Brian (SPEAKER_09) lists female privileges: affirmative action, no military conscription, more favorable treatment by police and courts, longer sentences for men for same crimes, ability to monetize sexuality. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): wage gap controlled for hours/jobs/career breaks disappears. Adrien (SPEAKER_02): women need more accountability; non-traditional women want traditional men (provider, leader, emotionally intelligent). Molly: pressed by Brian on how she is specifically oppressed; cannot give example on the spot.

06:27:06
Body count round

Brian asks panel for body counts. Results: Madison: 8. Molly Little: 100-200 (clarified: ~5 off-camera/civilian partners; rest on-camera). Demi Hawks: at least 150, probably ~200 (20-30 off-camera). Lauren: ~1,100 total; ~100+ before sex work; 200+ before formal escorting. Cindy Zang: declined; between 0 and 100 (narrowed to "between 0 and 30" when pressed; "I don't feel comfortable disclosing"). Bri: admitted oral sex; disputed intercourse; context of virgin claim controversy. Brian: "is it insecure for men to care about body count" discussion follows.

06:28:10
Is it insecure to care about body count?

Brian asks: is it insecure for a man to care about body count? Cindy: he should not ask; not a question of insecurity. Bri: biologically makes sense; not insecurity. Lauren: not insecure; just a preference difference — she would say "thank you for honoring yourself." Molly: not insecure; just not for him; she is open about having lost count. Adrien: men who care have valid reasons. Matthew: goes around the table; distinguishes between caring and disqualifying.

07:27:07
Bri rage-quits the show

Near the end of the show (~7:27), Brian puts it to the chat whether to kick Bri off. Chat responds affirmatively (begging Brian to kick her). Bri (SPEAKER_11) decides to leave preemptively: "I'm not going to give him the satisfaction." Molly (SPEAKER_13) comments: "you can't fire me I quit." Brian reads super chat: "she just came here to be dishonest." Bri leaves. Show wraps ~15 minutes later without her.

Transcript

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04:40:05
TTS / Chat Readerinternet is your daddy I don't know who that was directed to Michael donated $100 Lauren if you got married to someone who was accepting of your job description would you take time out to
04:40:17
Laurenensure paternity and have his children would you go back after hm that's a good question uh it if he had the money and and did that I mean
04:40:28
LaurenI don't know maybe maybe if if if he had the money and I could stay at home with the babies uh then yeah maybe I'd have that experience but I but it wouldn't be because I don't like the other
04:40:39
Brian Atlasexperience it'd be because I might want to try this experience now okay thank you Lauren appreciate that um we have a couple chats but first let's go back to that tic or the Instagram post all right
04:40:51
Brian AtlasKristen cavalary is showing off her hot new Romance the 37-year-old just went Instagram official with
04:40:59
Brian Atlas24-year-old model Mark SS uh so she's 37 he's 24 that is what a
04:41:06
Bri133 13year age Gap that isn't icky that not wait so Niki no into the mic if you
04:41:16
Brian Atlascan he's 24 he frontal lobe is almost fully developed it's fine is that is there is that just like pseudo science the whole you're it's not fully developed until
04:41:28
Briyou're 25 is that actually true I don't know if it's true or not but it's not like literally I'm saying like oh now on the hour he turned 25 I'm just saying 24 a 24 year-old knows what they're doing
04:41:40
Brian Atlasokay your thoughts mly I think it's fine fine with it I think it's fine I think it's fine it's cool cool fine I don't like it but it's fine you
04:41:51
Brian Atlasdon't like it I'm not going to date an old woman oh but more so the age Gap totally fine totally fine I see okay um H I don't even think that's if we switched the genders would you have any
04:42:02
Brian Atlasobjections no 3724 okay all right we have two chats here we have Maddie if you can read it a lot of girls DM to be on the
04:42:13
Brian Atlasshow Molly I wish you didn't do thank you for that the username is Molly I wish you didn't do corn I would say more than 50% of the people that we have on the show uh they reach out to us
04:42:25
Brian Atlasto be on the show we we reach out to some people some people reach out to us uh so it's it's a it's like mixed it's mixed we have healthy conversations the lovely
04:42:38
Madisonlady in olive green aside the Mount of BS coming from the four ladies on the left side of the table is doing my head in I'm out I'm agnostic and frankly even I'm ready to Smite you wait the left
04:42:50
Laurenside of the table is that this side I think this side I think our side yeah I think it was the religious context he's ready to Smite he's going to Smite you guys watch out he's smiting
04:43:01
Madisonme daddy he's coming to Smite all states should have an ID authentication law of 18 plus for porn Lake Texas hunky jalapeno well the issue with that is I
04:43:11
Unknownthink it's like hard to verify it's hard to verify and also like to put that I do agree I do like you should be age verified to be consuming porn and all
04:43:22
Unknownthat I do think that like putting that responsibility onto the site of PornHub like is kind of dangerous it opens it up for leaks of a lot of people's
04:43:32
Unknowninformation it's asking a lot of lot of like heavy lifting for that site to do I do think like that yeah children should not be consuming adult content at all
04:43:42
Unknownthere should be age verification I just think Co a better system needs to be put in place like some sort of like like not putting like it on the individual sites
04:43:53
Brian Atlasthat was pornhub's whole like boycott yeah yeah that was their problem yep okay we have Stiffler here ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with Bri go ahead me
04:44:06
Brilike rate my own looks yeah on a scale of 1 to 10 um I'm not going to do that go ahead you can do it no I'm not you you can do it I'm not going to do it you move on we could go out H you can you
04:44:16
Brian Atlascan engage in the you can participate in the conversation and I don't rate other people I don't rate myself you don't I don't rate people would you date a guy who's shorter than you yes I've dat a
04:44:27
Brian Atlasguy shorter than me would you well hold on you said you said that penis size matters correct yeah I said 4 to eight 4 48 in would you prefer like closer to the 8 in pis size no that sounds painful
04:44:40
Brian AtlasI don't know what it's like you said four to eight okay seven and would you prefer seven over four I don't I have no idea cuz I don't
04:44:49
Brian Atlasknow what oh oh yeah okay yeah um well you seem you wouldn't be okay with three though probably not well that's I mean
04:45:01
Brian Atlasthat's that's kind of rating somebody on their physical appearance something they have absolutely no control over and that's a numerical measurement you are literally doing a numerical measurement and disqualifying men because of the
04:45:14
Brisize of their pee pee I mean I wouldn't disqualify him of course you would no I wouldn't you said 4 to eight that'd be preferable but if not it's okay what if
04:45:26
Brian Atlasit was too big would you disqualify he wouldn't be the sex man he'd be the emotional man or the finance man right but he doesn't be a sex man you are disqualifying him from being the sex okay so you you refuse to answer the
04:45:38
Brirating your looks on a scale of 1 to 10 I don't rate people because I could say oh I'm a two or I could say I'm a 10 it doesn't matter because it's not the same as what you're going to think doesn't
04:45:48
Brimatter you could still just answer the question and stop derailing the show no I'm not going to why why not because I don't rate people I don't beauty is subjective I don't think that you should
04:46:00
Brian Atlasbe rating someone yourself you don't care about looks no not really you don't care you don't care about how a guy looks at all for any of your three husbands
04:46:12
Madisonno does your Google form have a photo upload no you don't care about her Google form does have penis size and income which are all numerical measur that you're so I do see how what they
04:46:25
Brilook like cuz it has social media on it okay so you you you care nothing about how a guy looks I don't care about looks no looks are not the number one thing on my priority
04:46:36
Brian Atlaslist so you're refusing to answer the question yeah just to be bratty or because I don't believe in
04:46:46
Brian Atlasratings um okay did you have a height preference if I recall it's on yeah why do you ask why' you ask height if it
04:46:56
Bridoesn't matter um I because just like the same thing with race it's kind of just a thing you put down like when you go to the hospital put in your weight if it doesn't matter why would you need to
04:47:09
Briknow put in like your like marital status like why does me being single or taking like matter in the hospital it doesn't but they ask it because it's just like a demographic thing so that's well you're on the
04:47:21
Brian Atlaswhatever podcast I don't know how to respond to why the hospital asks for it they probably actually have a reason but so why would you ask for height and penis size and all these other things on
04:47:33
Brian Atlasyour uh on your boyfriend application if it didn't matter because it's a demographic obiously
04:47:41
Bribut if it doesn't matter to you why ask it well like if a guy let's say he has everything I need for the financial section but he's 5'1 that doesn't
04:47:52
Bridisqualify him okay for the financial guy what about for the other guys for the emotional guy it doesn't matter for the sex guy it doesn't matter actually so then why do you ask the question for any of them okay I'll take it off my
04:48:04
Brian AtlasGoogle form to make you feel better what about the penis size you'll take that off for all of them too take that I'll take that off too okay so now you're changing your whole thing because I've given you the slightest amount of push
04:48:15
Briback on the podcast I think that I put everything on the form in the first place because I just looked at other forms and was like what do they ask and then I was like okay think you to
04:48:26
Brian Atlaswrite down right on there your your template for it was when you went to the hospital to get your fake tits in is that what it is basically you I was just thinking of all the forms that I've filled out and all the forms that I've
04:48:38
Laurenseen and I was like this is what they asked I'm just going to start putting that in quick question before you send them the form do you you have a consent like hey are you above 18 you're verifying you're above 18 just because
04:48:49
LaurenI'm so sorry um before you send them the form do you have a um form that says I am verifying that I am over 18 because there is that question of the penis size wait what do you mean well on the boyfriend forms there's the oh they have
04:49:02
Brian Atlasto put their age I was wondering about that yeah yeah was for leg important part into the mic please okay uh so is that a refusal is that a refusal I'm not
04:49:13
Unknownreading okay Molly what about you 10 7.5 nine today mhm oh that's I want to see the
04:49:23
Brian AtlasMTH 10 out of 10 I think I'm a perfect 10 so eight I'm old six and a
04:49:33
Brian Atlashalf seven give myself five okay so we have a 10 10 and 10 a five H yeah I give
04:49:42
Brian Atlasmyself five so no offense to you guys none of you are T in your opinion I
04:49:52
Brian Atlaslet's yourself let's ask the chat chat chat for the next 10 seconds what do you rate Molly one in the chat uh on a scale of 1 to 10 what do you rate Molly over here okay but the chat wasn't have the
04:50:04
Unknownchat rate ourselves it's what do youate you rate yourself you look like and then chat everybody rate themselves
04:50:13
Brian Atlastell us what do you rate now chat what do you rate audience Demi Demi Demi Demi what do you rate Demi on a scale of 1 to
04:50:25
Brian Atlas10 and now Lastly lastly what do you rate Cindy on a scale of 1 to
04:50:34
Brian Atlas10 what do you rate Cindy on a scale of one someone rate 101 out of too thank you
04:50:43
Brian Atlase voice weirdos a two five Mickey Mouse slowo uh oh sorry we have slow mode I apologize guys we I asked the question too quickly my bad guys um
04:50:56
Brian Atlasokay there you have it folks maybe you could put a name next to the rating that would have it's fine uh yeah so sorry you guys are not tens sorry to say I'm
04:51:06
Brireally not you see how like you say that and then it's like why did what was the point of that engagement I've got a question for
04:51:17
Brian Atlasyou for all of you then here's another kind of question maybe you'll actually be able to engage in this one do you think you will be more physic physically attractive in 10
04:51:29
Briyears so you're 22 now will you be more physically attractive at 32 how am I supposed to know what I look like in the future you know aging biology reality I don't know what's that
04:51:41
Brigoing to look like cuz I could get BOTOX I could get I could not get BOTOX I could go to the gym a lot you look like a 32-year-old with botox or I could not go to a gym a lot I could eat healthy or not like it doesn't like how am I
04:51:53
Brian Atlassupposed to know so you're okay so in 10 years you'll be more okay the the question is when it comes to here we'll go around the table what uh do you think
04:52:04
Molly Littleyou'll be more physically attractive in 10 years uh yeah oh my God you're such a troll okay no I think I will look at Ann hathway she looks the same as she does 10 years later she does she
04:52:15
Laurenlooks gorgeous just a little more mature okay wait okay okay sorry go ahead answer if uh if I can get my body movement into yoga down I think my body
04:52:26
Brian Atlaswill aotter in 10 years if I really nail that I think so I know about the face let me provide a bit of clarification so okay you're confusing improving your weight and health with being more attractive so we're referring to the
04:52:39
Brian Atlasattractiveness of a so not other factors so if you were your best weight and health at 22 wouldn't it stand to reason that
04:52:48
Briyou'd be more attractive than your best weight and health at 32 um yeah I agree um biologically a man or is more likely to be attracted to a 22y old than a 32y old
04:53:01
Brithat's just biologically because well okay so do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years that's the question yeah be no because in 10
04:53:10
Unknownyears biologically I'm aging out of that frame okay what about you I think I'll have a very this is not the answer you're going to want to hear but I think I'll have a different audience you know
04:53:22
Brian Atlaslike there are certain people who find me attractive now that will be different kind of people who find me attractive in 10 years you have to understand you have to understand I'm not saying that you're going to be unattractive in 10 years the
04:53:33
Unknownquestion is will you be more physically attractive in 10 years some people will think that some people think that I'm more physically attractive now because attractiveness is really about like
04:53:45
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)Personal Taste okay Cindy what about you um I think I think I'm hot and sexy now but like 10 years from now I probably will still be that if I keep taking care of
04:53:58
Brian Atlasmyself and I think I take really good care of myself you may very well still be attractive in 10 years that's not the question will you be more attractive in 10 [Music]
04:54:09
Brian Atlasyears probably Pro probably okay so you're 23 mhm so you'll be more attractive at
04:54:19
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)33 as opposed to now at 23 yeah I think that everybody like I'm I'm a little skinnier now but later on I might you know maybe gain a little weight I don't know so you'll be more attractive after
04:54:30
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)you've gained weight I don't even know I can't predict the future Brian can you predict the future for me and what I look like yeah I can predict the future you will not be as attractive as you are
04:54:39
Brian Atlasnow wow are you a psychic yes I'm a psychic oh how about we touch Bas in 10 years
04:54:46
Brian AtlasCindy okay let's do whatever re Union touch 10 years um I agree with that though because you're aging out of the
04:54:58
Bribiological time of when you can carry babies which is what biologically it deems you as attractive you see
04:55:07
Adrienoh so madon no uh less attractive but I'll tell you why I I feel like if women in their 40s are still 100% focused on what they were focused on when they were
04:55:19
Adrien18 19 and in their 20s I think that there's something wrong I think for the majority of women we have three phases or we should aspire to have three phases which is maid in other I'm a captain you
04:55:30
TTS / Chat Readerall leftenant donated $100 Brian please please please use this phrase all else being equal will you be
04:55:40
TTS / Chat Readermore attractive in 10 years Etc all else being equal and once more all else being equal that is the question okay that's that's a good uh good
04:55:53
Adrienpoint did you want to continue with your oh yeah I'll just finish really quick um yeah so I think by the time that we age into 40 we just shouldn't be focused on the Aesthetics of our bodies we should more so be focused on how to give wisdom
04:56:04
TTS / Chat Readerto our children to younger women um so I think that that's okay I think that certainly Echo they Big B donated $100 Bri you are very beautiful and
04:56:14
TTS / Chat Readerwould definitely make far more money than Cindy not even close love that voice and attitude don't know about the application process though but other
04:56:24
Brithan the hate 510s it's okay I'll send you the Google form but the right answer I think love her attitude the biological answer
04:56:38
Adrienbiologically you're not going to be as you want to finish your yeah I just wanted to Echo what Lauren said I think that women in their 40s can can definitely be fit and super healthy especially the yoga and pilates ladies but I think generally speaking we are
04:56:48
Brian Atlasless attractive in our in our 30s and 40s well those of you who said you'll be more physically attractive in 10 years all else being equal all else being equal do you think you'll be more
04:56:59
Brian Atlasphysically attractive in 20 years did you say yes to the in 10 years one I forgot she said no I said um I definitely think there's possib Poss possibility for that yeah you you'll be
04:57:11
Brian Atlasmore attractive in 20 years so you're 21 once I get my boob job yeah I don't think that would make you more attractive but in my opinion it
04:57:21
Molly Littlewould on a different scale it would make me look older so when I get older if I get bigger boobs if I get when I get older my plan is to get bigger boobs so
04:57:32
Molly Littleyou're so I look more womanly as I'm older and I think that would change my look completely your argument hinges on boobs getting breast implants yeah wow
04:57:43
TTS / Chat Readerfora donated $100 the older a woman gets the less options she has the older a man gets the more options he has thank you Forza I appreciate that yeah you know there's
04:57:56
Brian Atlasdifferences in the sexual Marketplace 100% agree uh there's definitely differences there wait so Molly you're saying you at
04:58:04
Brian Atlas21 you will just once you hit 41 you get some faked hits you'll be just as are more attractive I'm going to have my mommy milkers and be the hottest you're
04:58:14
Laurenridiculous Molly okay you're delusional but okay uh more attractive in 20 years I don't think so I'd be 51 then but maybe 41 I could be banging but 51 no
04:58:25
Unknownright what about you more attractive in 20 years to certain people yeah oh my you're ridiculous bro you're ridiculous to certain people some people really like mils and
04:58:37
Unknowncougars and some people aren't into that so the people who like mil they don't like me now they're not into it but when I'm older they'll be all about it right so do you what do you think of the
04:58:50
Brian Atlasconcept of Aging like let me ask you a question if you could just when it came to your looks if you do actually genuinely think that as you get older you'll be more
04:59:02
Brian Atlasphysically attractive would you be open to just fast forwarding your current appearance to how you'll look at 41 so that would be you'd be better looking right sure I would do that I mean not
04:59:13
Unknowninstantly because I think about it from a business perspective I have and because I do porn my money my income is like based off of my look and my brand and my image so if I had a couple
04:59:25
Unknownmonths there's Grandma there's Grandma there's Grandma porn there's Grandma por there's grandpa porn that's you I don't think you really understand the question but do you think more people would find
04:59:36
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)you attractive now or in 20 years it depends I give you an easy one I gave you an easy
04:59:51
Unknownone I think a lot of people find me attractive now I people find attractive in 20 years even some people who find me more attractive because I do webcamming and I
05:00:03
UnknownI do all my own chatting on my sites and I think some people are just attracted to the personality and The Vibes and the more they get to know me and the more the longer they've been a fan the more they're going to be a fan okay you're misunderstanding the question certainly
05:00:15
Brian Atlaswhen you're 30 when you're 40 when you're 50 when you're 60 you will certainly be able to still find men who will be attracted to you and who will find you attractive again that is not
05:00:26
Brian Atlasthe question the question is is it it's a comparison question will you be more physically attractive will I be more attractive or will more people be attracted to me is this quantitative or
05:00:38
Adrienqualitative I would say why are we even having this conversation the answer is obvious and I feel like you guys specifically are doing a disservice to younger women by not only encouraging them to keep that as the main focal
05:00:50
Unknownpoint but to not encourage people to try to age gracefully it's am I encouraging people to that am I sitting here saying that that youth is attractive or am I sitting here saying that you are attractive to different people
05:01:02
Adriendelusional I think you're I think you saying that you're going to be hot at at 70 is insane and I just don't know why you're putting that pressure on on young women it's our jobs as we age as
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Adrienpressure on young women say look like I'm age out of the mindset that your main goal is to look hot or attractive to the people around you you should be getting wiser you should be growing and you should be giving guidance not
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Adrientelling young girls that it's important in any way to be focusing on that when you're in your 50s and 60s and 70s it's insane I think that's what saying I don't think yeah no at all like do you feel like we should like age thinking
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)like oh we're going to get uglier oh my gosh like I don't want to get old you want us to think like that um I think ising is reality I know but you're but you're saying like as we goow older like
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Adrienwe're bound to be ugly like I think that especially for women it is different than men men have more prospects as they age they are hotter it is what it is I'm saying that we as
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Adrienwomen we as women make aging more painful than it needs to be and it is because we put unrealistic expectations similar similarly to what you guys are saying that it's even remotely important
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Molly Littleto be like aesthetically pleasing in your 50s and 60s wor about children it is it is important for me to be aesthetically pleasing that's how I make a living yeah no I get what you're saying I think it is very important for
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Molly Littlethe average woman who does not um exploit their bodies and themselves for their job to I like that word I mean that's what it is it is putting out your body and yourself for show that is what
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Molly Littleyou are doing just like a professional it is you know that is the job um yeah but anyway I think it is important to teach girls on average to age gracefully
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Molly Littlebut I think for us it's very important for us to stay pretty and stay attractive no matter our age so I think but I'm not we're not saying that being
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Adrienyoung is to be pretty like the only way to be pretty is to be young like that's that's kind of disgusting that's what you're saying no and I like what you're saying and that because technically and I don't mean this to be rude but like
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Adrienyour body is your product I guess logically that would make sense because that is the focus and that is you know what you're just any performer any athlete would work out and of
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Molly Littlecourse hopefully when we get older we are financially secure enough to be able to say hey I'm I'm not interested in this anymore I don't want to promote my body anymore like that so I am going to
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Adrienmove past and some some of us choose to do that and some of us choose to% I guess my only question is why is it not just a little easier to just say yeah like I'm going to be a little less attractive as I get older I get what
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Adrienyou're saying because I genuinely don't believe in this industry because I see guils making bank so you're saying because essentially there's always going to be a revenue stream uh for a niche
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Molly Littlelike you know either one that you mentioned in your mind you're only focused on that not the general public in any way well for me attraction is in is in two eyes it's in the eye of whoever is perceiving me and it's in my
05:04:04
Brieye potentially but don't be delusional a 7-year-old having sex on camera is not making as much money is a 18-year-old girl having sex on camera
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Molly Littleevery there's a lot less 70-year-olds out there having sex so they're probably making den of money I think you'll be surprised you guys are
05:04:25
Brian Atlasdelusional delusional delusional you guys are delusional
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Brian Atlasdelusional dulu you are dulu you are dulu and you are no we're just confident in ourselves so confident you know you know what would be confident
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Brian Atlasdelusion if you just said yeah I'm a F that's what would be confident shows you're inse bat if anything show your insecure all right so
05:04:58
Brian Atlashere's what we're going to do I'm going to pull up a chart hypergamy chart Nick pull that up so look y'all are dulu and here's why it's important okay
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Brian Atlasy'all think your tens you're going to be chasing after dudes who are out of your league they're going to know that you're below them not like in a value of your
05:05:23
Brian Atlaslife sort of way but in the like I'm just you and I have no interest in having a relationship with you this is where women get stuck in situationships and uh getting with f uh
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Brian Atlasboys because you don't have accurate self assessments of your own physical attractiveness and that's why it's important that you know what you actually look like instead of being delusional and rating yourself a 10 because when you rate yourself a 10
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Brian Atlasyou're going to think you're hot you're going to chase after guys who are out of your league they're just going to use you for sex the guys who are actually in your league you're going to discard them disregard them treat like treat them like and then when you
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Brian Atlasperhaps finally settle for one of these guys who you view it's not even settling but who you view it as settling because they're they're you know not as attractive or whatever it may be you spent your 20s guys who are high
05:06:12
Brian Atlasstatus hyper attractive Rich whatever it may be you'll never get lock these excuse me you'll never lock these guys down for long-term commitment and then
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Brian Atlasuh it'll surely you'll marry some some guy who's average just like your average and then inevitably because you're used to a certain Tre uh you're used to a certain tier of man you're going to hold
05:06:35
Brian Atlasthat guy in contempt it's going to become a sexless marriage if you do get married it's going to end in divorce and it's just going to create a terrible vicious cycle who H you I have a quick
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Briquestion have question life story I have a question too I want to know to you because if they're not tens to you but I want to know to you who is a 10 like
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Briname a celebrity name somebody who you think is a 10 cuz I'm curious I want to know what a 10 is I have a hard time actually is Ariana Grande a 10 Ariana Grande she's attractive with the
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Brian Atlasbleached eyebrows she's attractive but i' like to see her I wish you would change her ey i' like to see her without a she cakes on the makeup I'd like to see her without makeup I think
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Brian Atlasshe's an attractive girl um I I don't know what I okay so what's the 10 who's the 10 I I don't think there is
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Brian Atlasa 10 there's there's no such thing as a 10 I don't think there's uh a woman who I think is very attractive maybe she's an eight or a nine is uh what's her name
05:07:40
Brian AtlasKristen kruck when she was like uh when she was a young woman she's she's a bit older now she's in her like 41 or something Christen K fora donated
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TTS / Chat Reader$100 Brian I'd like to see what your take is on Courtney clenny of model who killed her long-term boyfriend the ungratefulness I don't know who that is
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Brian Atlasso what's this can Forza can you tell us like what the what are the circumstances was it the Florida chick do you are you guys familiar with this I know feel like I might be but like not enough that I
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Brian Atlasactually remember the details of this case I'm not sure can you tell me the details of the case I don't I don't know but uh so I mean I think Kristen krook's a very attractive woman I don't think I mean I could probably like can I see her
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BriI could probably think of a woman who's more attractive but I think she's very attractive when she was younger can I see y Chris and K can I see y Chris and KW I just want to see in your eyes what
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Brian Atlasis an attractive woman okay yeah sure pull it up again I don't think she's she might not be the I I I wouldn't say she's the most attractive or the number one most attractive woman I've ever seen
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Brian Atlasbut I think she's very attractive so uh maybe young young Kristen kruck I don't know 20 21 Kristen kruck I don't
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Brian Atlasknow for donated $100 okay we we'll give a long story let's see Kristen krck okay uh let's see a good photo to pull up uh
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Brian Atlaswhat about the one in the the the red where her arms are crossed she was in Small bille that's I think she's really pretty I remember
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Brian Atlasum pull up the the scroll up a bit wait uh that one how
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Bristunning okay but now to a guy that only likes the one the green backdrop we see we seen it green no the that's blue are
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Brian Atlasyou color blind man kill Reddit top that right there go up are you this is color blind bro colind top second get this guy
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Brian Atlassome of those Logan PA glasses gles on I'm sorry uh scroll down a bit scroll down uh what about the IMDb one IMDb yep that one okay we SE and then the the the beach one with the
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Brian Atlaswater one with now we've seen her yeah you know she's she's very attractive there's probably I could probably think of an example of a girl who's more attractive I'd say she's
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Brivery attrative this is why I'm thinking like to a guy that only likes black girls that girl is not that attractive so she's probably still pretty attractive she's pretty but he's not going to consider her maybe a eight or
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Brinine maybe okay so yeah people have racial preferences sure or's your point just perspective you're asking me what I think is attractive though yeah so well you asked us how attractive we think we
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Briare yeah like got to go both ways you asked them what they you think that's like an own is this you think this is like AA gave some they gave their perspective on what they see you
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Briare giving your perspective on what you see so you can't say you are not a 10 because maybe in your eyes she's not but maybe in her eyes she is a 10 yeah so
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Brian Atlashere let's say we so you can't say it like that let's say we lined up a 100,000 men is it possible that there are some of those men who are going to
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Brian Atlasrank Cindy or Demi Demi whatever Molly Demi a 10 sure there are some men who will rate them a 10 but we could I would
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Brian Atlasprobably say that there will be some consensus would you agree that like if we had a group of a 100,000 men rate all the women here that like you would see
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Brian average you'd see a median you'd see a mean okay but that wasn't the question you asked like what are you like you asked them to rate themselves you said how would you rate and you said you are
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)not like they are absolutely not but yeah it's just objective reality would you guys say the same thing if he asked you what do you think most men would rate you okay that's a different
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Unknownquestion would you still answer 10 I think it's different and I think like I think a lot of men like to um women very low to kind of them and yeah like they
05:12:14
Unknownfeel insecure they feel like they have to knock this woman down to their level so they can be on the same level with her like I I really kind of don't trust what I mean that whole internet was calling Margo Robbie mid
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Brian Atlasreally yeah the yeah let's or well let's pull up the Google story about Courtney clenny just make sure it's not we just went for
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Brimy voice is kind argument with me I'm on no one's side I've argued with everyone today I'm just saying what I think like I think they you want to argue with Cindy more no like I'm just saying like I don't
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Brithink it's fair for you to say they're not tense they could say that they're whatever they want to be they are is that your manifestation stuff coming
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Brian Atlasup what is that the manifestation they're manifesting being tens do you have it do you have a story Nick here I'll do chats while
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MadisonMaddie Dr B great episode truly one of the best Matt you are a based and wise man thank you for not being a Jesus Freak to the viewers use the tragedy of these of girls as motivation to succeed
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Brian Atlasin life that way your daughters don't end up on o no one will be sucking seed suceed excuse me that's my favorite joke I love that joke um I want Molly to read
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Molly Littlethis one go ahead why go ahead um right to left is that this way yeah okay uh three three three three three four threes 4 9.9
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Madison8778 okay hunky man seems a little fruity hunky Maddie for the Virgin Mary if her were a car would it be an original
05:14:05
Madisontesel that just left the store or an old priest that has already driven Route 66 dozen of times what is the panel's opinion a brand new Tesla or a well-used Prius again with the disrespect for
05:14:17
Brian Atlasreligion stuff like can we stop because he said Virgin Mary is that where is that where you're clutch your pearls is that what you're clutching
05:14:27
Madisonyour pear Virgin Mary's was a car it said for the Virgin Mary you're going to clutch your pearls right now they're referring to you as Virgin Mary I'm the Virgin yes you're clutching
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Brithen it's not disrespectful anymore oh yeah never mind okay um into the mic would it be an original Tesla just left this store holy bro she already
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Brian Atlasread it um I don't like Teslas or Priuses um okay so all right that was the qu uh
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MadisonRafael uh I'll take the Tesla I guess one of the certainties that I have is that if Theodora's voice continues to get higher pitched every year when she is 7 years old she will only be able to
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TTS / Chat Readercommunicate with dolphins or some US Navy Communications equipment oh my God watch me just stupid Bish donated $99 men don't like to rate women low
05:15:21
TTS / Chat Readerbecause they're insecure women don't understand normal distribution a five is average not an insult this stupid wow that is true five is average five is
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Unknownaverage you know I do porn for a living because I'm a mathematician and I really like to spend my time thinking about averages and ratings um and that's why I chose this career path cuz that makes
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Unknownsense yeah you're not a mathematician no I am I I do math all day every day that's why I suck dick for a living got to count the
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TTS / Chat Readerinches lofty up dog donated $100 I'm truly enjoying Manchild podcast would you be open to having a conversation with someone more masculine
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TTS / Chat Readerthan you like Jason Ellis David C small or Tom and cess from cognitive dissonance I'm not I assume this is
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Brian Atlasdirected towards me I don't know who those people are I'd have to look into them I yeah that's all I can say I don't know who they are so I can't say whether I would or would not want to have a or
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Brian Atlasbe open excuse me to having a conversation with them whether they're more or less masculine than me is kind of a but in any case appreciate the TTS thank you uh okay we have let's see oh okay
05:16:45
Brian Atlaswhere are we at here oh we got some pre-show notes oh the thing yeah well for Forza Forza report details oh okay I think I saw something about this a while ago
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Brian Atlasthis is back in April oh it says published February 1st okay maybe it was an updated Miami only fans models bizarre drunken
05:17:05
Brian Atlasincident after bf's stabbing uh clenny second degree murder charge um so wait my the the question
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Brian Atlaswas hold on what do you think Brian what your take is on Courtney clenny who killed her long-term boyfriend she was an O model the ungratefulness uh wait is can you pull it back up let me just see what the case
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Brian Atlasstatus is scroll down she was uh facing second degree murder charge she wasn't arrested so did she like get off easy
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Brian Atlasscroll down let's see if there's like a status uh scroll down okay scroll
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Brian Atlasdown uh Nest Deborah advice she believe she was uh explain to Courtney recently moved back to the area uh clany denied shoving okay there she is there's her
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Madisonmug shot uh I did something happen is there an update on thisf it said the father of the team did not want to purs
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Brian Atlasanything what like why yeah that's kind of crazy what if she paid she was arrested for murder did she get off
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Unknowneasily are there updates on the is that the video it's what is conf she confess fat stabing stabbing oh it's like a video of them like yelling like hitting each
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Brian Atlasother wait I wasn't looking at the screen was there anything TOS on the screen was it was just okay so I mean I'm not like whether she
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Brian Atlasdoes o or not I feel like it's kind of irrelevant here uh she was clearly abusive she murdered him it's pretty
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Brian Atlashigh level of abuse um I'm obviously against women abusing men as I am against anybody abusing anybody in a a romantic relationship or any kind of
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Brian Atlasrelationship so I mean I think my answer to this is a bit obvious in so far as murdering people is bad hot take murder is bad yes hot take
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Brian Atlasmurder is bad yeah she wants to argue she wants to argue with me no I'm kidding she wants to Mur uh okay she wants a murder what he do though oh my God cuz we okay I don't I feel like I
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Brian Atlassaw the videos on it it seemed like she was just an abusive partner [Music]
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Brian Atlasand deleted him I don't think he did anything anything to deserve being deleted yeah okay let's see pre-show
05:19:47
Brian Atlasnotes we have okay Cindy what's Cindy up to Cindy got up uh was
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Brian Atlasit hold on let me just okay we have Lauren roses Rosas Rosas yes I'm wondering which one it is that I
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Brian Atlassaid I tried to be thorough you had a lot of uh did you date a lot of toxic guys when you were
05:20:17
Brian Atlasyounger yeah yeah yeah why did you ever encounter like uh any nice guys like good guys and you just weren't attracted
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Laurento them yes I was there there was one guy and he was a really nice guy and um I tried my friend was like hey Lauren you know you date guys that that you think are good-look and they all treat
05:20:40
Laurenyou like crap so why don't you just try to date a guy that you know you might not be attracted to and see what happens and I said okay so I dated him for um 3ish months or something as I I put in there I don't remember but I did date
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Laurenhim and there just wasn't the chemistry there and I felt that between partners there needs to be
05:21:05
Laurenchemistry because then what happens is is our facial Expressions will tell everything but when the minute they're making love to us oh and they're our partner um not just like a Divine Union
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Laurenlike you know just in a more fun way but in in a partner way they're going to see certain things in your eyes they're going to see certain things in your face and and and it could invalidate them in
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Laurena not in a sense like like I'm not enjoying it it's just they're I felt like I wasn't giving him a full 100%
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Laurenwhen he deserved 100% um so I said look like I I think that um that you know we shouldn't you know we should break it off but I I thought he was a great person and he got married and he found that person that
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Laurenwill give him 100% I felt like I was hindering him from getting that person because I was being trying to be selfish and have a little nice guy thing it was
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Brian Atlasjust selfish on my part so that's why I let him go yeah okay all right um let's see here oh we have some tweets from
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Brian AtlasDemi Demi Dem oops my bad so we have some tweets from Demi but can you scroll it make it bigger uh so you know if you know what I
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Brian Atlasmean Nick so the side isn't showing I'm just double checking making sure there's nothing TOS on her on her these specific tweets which probably I'm like n I'm
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Brian Atlaslooking did I TW I'm looking but it's it's fine you can pull up the first one I just get on there and say stuff okay this is Dei Hawks thinking about this
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Unknownman today I hope he's doing well can you read it for us the screenshot part yeah um it's from uh Reddit R/C confessions I adore lazy women I have this fetish
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Unknownwhere I prefer a woman who does nothing all day video games or TV or just napping all day sounds super hot I want to be the one working long hours to pay for them to be lazy all day then I want
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Unknownto get home and be told to cook and clean while she continues to be lazy and do nothing I have this fascination with lazy women like I just want to enable all the bad habits ideally a stoner
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UnknownDrinker and or smoker is this attainable has anyone ever heard of this so is that that's the kind of guy you want honestly like kind of no
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Unknownbecause I I just wish the best for him like I love to be lazy and I've been in a lot of relationships where my partner was essentially like a house cat um and I I
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Unknownwasn't into that but I'm kind of fascinated by this person who's just so like fetishizing like oh I just want my woman to be so lazy but honestly personally I would get bored I couldn't
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Molly Littlebe lazy all day every day send them to me yeah take a second
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Brian Atlasboyfriend okay is that that we're going to go through more tweets facts have more tweets if you can pull up the other one Nick go ahead read it
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Unknownah okay I'll admit it I like Ariana Grande because I relate to being down bad for very questionable men yeah so you're down bad for
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Unknownquestionable men oh my God I I am I like I fall so hard for like guys who are kind of ugly and kind
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Unknownof mean and kind of like using me and so you know what when I listen to her music like yeah girl I get it cuz I think she does the same thing like the whole Pete
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UnknownDavidson thing the recent husband yeah like she's just you know what she's just doing stuff so you said you like men who are ugly mean and what was the other one I don't really like men who we me but I
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Unknownkeep dating them isn't that interesting how that works out it is really interesting but I do like ugly men like I pursue men that I think are a little
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Unknownbit ugly said ugly me would you Brian wait what oh my I might I
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Brian Atlasmight did you just fart yeah I think that was Molly yo chat CH chat chat Molly just farted chat
05:25:25
Brian AtlasMolly just farted that was so gross Molly that sounded like a wet too holy y Molly anything he just asked
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Molly Littleme like and it sounded like it yeah dude Molly holy I can smell it from here dude what the bottle that up in a jar and
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)sell it literally buy fart jars literally do that $20,000 or something I don't know who must have stuck the fart out my butt people literally ask me when I
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Molly Littlestream like will you sell your farts literally will you sell your farts they want to see my butthole pucker or your bathtub water bathtub water
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Unknownpanties yeah sock shoes I've sold blanket that was actually kind of annoying I got like paid to get somebody bought like a big fluffy blanket which was like sweet but it was like kind of
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Brian Atlasit was a to send like in the okay but you said you you all the men you don't like mean men but you end up dating them yeah I do when you say mean what do you
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Unknownmean like they I think I think what it is I'm like kind of addicted to toxicity a little bit like I do kind of like arguing you can you tell
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Unknownno but I I do kind of like arguing I kind of like I don't know and I just I usually end up with men who are like like I've dated guys like my last boyfriend was like straight up insulting to my face
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Unknownand I dated him for a long time give us an example um or a few examples yeah he would look me in the face and say rats have bit better titties than you um he
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Unknownsaid he said like he would call me annoying he said that I I mean that kind of checks out though
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Unknownyeah wow he said I look like a crack hor um oh my gosh that's so mean loving H how long did you date this
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Brian Atlasguy I don't want to say but I will two years how early into the relationship did he start calling you a crack horn a rat probably two months two months in maybe three three months so you dated
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Unknownfor two two years see I get it I get it when when Ariana Grande writes songs about shitty man well I don't know if those men were
05:27:48
Brian Atlasverbally abusive but um so okay what else what else would he call you um yeah you know just stuff like that would this be to your face but in text message too oh to my face mostly
05:28:01
Molly Littleany text messages yeah or I would like send him a picture and he'd be like oh you look kind of like jacked up I hate what like you look rough TR to be
05:28:13
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)logical and realistic rather than just nice and supportive yeah said a lot of men are just insecure and they like to just project their opinion when the RO of the problem would you rather them ly why you looking at me
05:28:26
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)they're not lying the root of the problem is like they're you know they have some self-work to do instead of projecting it onto your girlfriend yeah I think like I I wouldn't like
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Unknownjust rather these guys like don't dat girls they don't like mhm okay they just attention another thing is he was really well I don't want
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Unknownto like get too much my my you got this he what he was just he was really controlling he was really like jealous and crazy and you liked it though didn't you I didn't like it but I like I don't
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Unknownit's like an adrenaline rush it's like the toxicity like when you argue yeah you said you like the toxicity yeah I think it's because how you are
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Briraised on who you choose um I feel like when you really don't get that much love and attention when you're younger you'll literally take any negative attention like yeah
05:29:25
Brilike if you don't see that when you're growing up then when you are old you don't know what that looks like I think a good Rel could this just be something that's innate like why like you're just born
05:29:37
Brian Atlaswith bad taste no like could there be cuz I mean there's this Trope there's a stereotype that women are attracted to
05:29:47
Brian AtlasBad Boys jerks and it could be the case that people who had a rough upbringing uh may be more vulnerable to this but couldn't it I mean are aren't
05:29:58
Brian Atlasthere women who even had good home life family life and even those women are attracted to jerks and bad boys and this sort of bit talk toxic Behavior I think so like I'm not sitting here
05:30:10
Unknownsaying like oh it's healthy and it's cool and it's cute that I like this toxic Behavior it's just that's how I am I'm going to be like honest with you guys like you logical though it's not
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Unknownvery logical and I I will sit around and be like why am I like this why do I like these men like what what is it specifically you know that that is so attractive to me about that and that's
05:30:33
Unknownstill something I'm like figuring out for myself I think that speak to like the childhood stuff like I think it's not necessarily like oh I didn't get enough attention it's just I never and even still as a young
05:30:44
Unknownadult I don't know almost anybody who's in like a successful healthy relationship so it's hard to like know what that looks like and how that should act and feel you
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Brinever you have this pattern before your current line of work yeah you did you were dating like toxic guys before you were doing por always I feel like it's self-esteem issues like you don't think you really like like deep down you don't
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Unknownthink you can really get anything better so you kind of just stay you guys want your lives to be soap operas the idea of having stability I don't want my life I want my life that's why I'm single now like and I'm just I I've only been
05:31:21
Brian Atlassingle for a few months but so Cindy all the men you've dated were just never brought you any conflict and none of them were toxic and they were just good men with their head on straight like an accent is an ex like if he treated me
05:31:33
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)bad or you know I would never go back to him um personally like some exes can be friends like but on like more like a hey hi you know like here and I'm not asking
05:31:45
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)if you were friends or are friends with any of your ass no like toxic men like I don't want anything to do with them because if anything they'll bring me down and I don't want that I don't want
05:31:57
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)that for my kids especially my kids I just don't want that like I have a question for you so did you have the opportunity to date men who weren't
05:32:07
Unknowntoxic but you turned them down because they weren't uh they weren't interesting to you yeah like I'll tell like one specific like I went on a date with this guy and he was super sweet super normal
05:32:20
Brian Atlasno red flags the whole time and I just like goodl looking good sex like everything good SE good sex oh well you them I me why not okay well he
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Unknowngot that far but okay so good good in bed I just had the feeling that like and again this is something that I'm not like promoting I'm not saying this is how you should feel and act but I was
05:32:42
Unknownjust like this is so unfamiliar to me it was just such like unfamiliar territory like anytime a guy like that like comes up that like sometimes I do the stupid thing of being
05:32:53
Unknownlike Oh No but it's like it's easier to be with it's easier to be around the the evil that I know than being like oh this guy seems cool he seems cool but like
05:33:04
Brian Atlaswhen other shoe going to drop you sabotaged it yeah I did how many you what I ghosted him you ghosted the good I still feel kind of bad and then he
05:33:13
Brian Atlasturned into an um so just to be clear okay so you he was good-look M good in bed MH head on straight oh yeah
05:33:24
Brian Atlasgood person yeah good personality yeah did he have a like job he was gainfully employed good job yeah
05:33:32
Brian Atlasokay but and you only went on one one date with him or couple dates or we went on two dates did he just like come over and
05:33:44
Brian Atlasor what what was the date no he took me out to lunch on our first date and then did you guys smash yeah okay and then you hung out again yep and then there were no red flags and you're like
05:33:55
Brian AtlasI have to eject I know like how stupid am I well I think there's a point well well so okay hold on let me make a point on
05:34:05
Brian Atlasthis so okay so I'm not saying that all women are doing what you're doing to the degree that you're doing it but if we
05:34:16
Brian Atlasconsider this a spectrum I think a lot of people would be very surprised that a lot of women like lean a little bit into
05:34:25
Unknownthe direction that you're in yes a lot of women lean in that direction I think some men do too I think people just do it in general because I don't know what I think part
05:34:37
Brian Atlasof it is like it can be really intimidating men men do it too Matt let me ask you let me ask you a question Matt and this is a question for the chat okay beautiful girl great
05:34:48
Brian Atlasgirl um she's she's Pleasant she's feminine she's kind good personality great body good in bed low
05:34:59
Brian Atlasbody count but but she's just she's a bit she's she's too nice you know she's just too nice question for you Matt question for
05:35:12
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)you chat is that an issue for you that's marriage material that's not a fun girl to have casual hookups with well you could still
05:35:24
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)have casual hookups with her you could I prefer more I disagree I got disagree with you on it's all good I I date I like I think that your intention matters when you're dating if you're looking for
05:35:36
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)like a mom of your kids or a wife long-term partner totally with you those are better that's greed those are greed Flags but I think that it's also possible that if I'm being honest when I date and I know that I don't want a
05:35:48
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)long-term relationship or marriage or anything of that stuff I almost prefer to leave those wholesome nice women for guys that are looking for marriage I'd rather not Jade them I mean that's fair
05:36:00
Molly LittleI suppose if you are going to just have casual sex with woman I suppose well I was going to say I think what I think to the opposite of that really quickly is um I think it's easier