Fake Virgin RAGE QUITS?! Cat Fight?! Body Count OVER 9000?! E-GIRLS! DEGENS! | Dating Talk #145

Date: 2024-03-20
Duration: 7h 45m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Adrien(guest)
SPEAKER_03Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lauren(guest)
SPEAKER_06TTS / Chat Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)
SPEAKER_13Molly Little(guest)
SPEAKER_14Madison(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:39
IntroBrian introduces panel: Bri, Molly Little, Lauren, Demi Hawks, Cindy Zang, Madison, Adrien, Matthew. Cindy Zang arrives ~1 hour late with alleged fresh cross neck tattoo — panel debates whether it is real or fake throughout the intro.

"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves"

00:07:42
Key MomentCindy Zang's cross neck tattoo controversy: arrived 1hr late claiming she just got tattooed. Panel skeptical (would be red, Cindy says cannot touch it). Brian has a makeup wipe. Cindy maintains it is real throughout. At end of show Brian offers the wipe again. This is a recurring bit through the entire episode.

"my name is Cindy Zang... I got tatted this morning"

00:25:00
Key MomentBri's virgin claim debated. Brian presents alleged OnlyFans account evidence (briati username). Bri admits oral sex video exists but denies penetrative intercourse. Claims intercourse videos are not her. Heart tattoo on buttock cited as identifying mark. Brian cannot show evidence on YouTube.

"I am a virgin that's not what I'm asking you have you had sex"

01:33:30
ControversyAdrien (SPEAKER_02) calls Cindy Zang repulsive, citing her lateness and performative behavior. Escalates as Bri reveals prior Twitter beef over a mutual streamer (linked to Aiden Ross's network). Cindy disputes having tweeted a fight threat; says a fan did it. Brian suggests a boxing match. Tension continues throughout the show.

"I would avoid Cindy at all cost... I'm repulsed by the personality"

02:09:09
QuoteBrian explains California community property laws in context of Ariana Grande divorce: without prenup Dalton Gomez could have claimed half of her earnings during 3-year marriage. Brian estimates he should have received alimony for ~1.5 years (half duration).

"in California there's community property so anything that you make during the marriage that's 5050"

06:24:09
Key MomentLauren (SPEAKER_05) reveals approximate body count: ~1,100 total; ~100+ just sex before escorting; "200 before formal sex work." Had 3-4 sexual partners per day at her peak when young.

"I'll be like 1,50 or maybe 1,100 how how much in how many in 2024"

06:31:30
QuoteMolly Little restates body count at end of show for new viewers: "yeah my name is Molly little and my body count is over 100."

"yeah my name is Molly little and my body count is over 100"

06:32:00
QuoteDemi Hawks restates body count: "I'm Demi Hawks and it's probably around 200."

"I'm Demi Hawks and it's probably around 200"

06:32:42
QuoteCindy Zang gives body count range when pressed: "between zero and 30."

"my name is Cindy Zing um... it's between zero and 30"

07:27:07
ControversyBri (SPEAKER_11) rage-quits when Brian asks chat if she should be removed. Bri says "I'm not going to give him the satisfaction" and walks out. Molly comments: "you can't fire me I quit." Brian later says she came on the show to be dishonest. This is the "Fake Virgin RAGE QUITS" title reference.

"I'm not going to give him the satisfaction"

07:39:05
OtherEnd of show. Brian does outro; raids Frost Adamus and Aladar on Twitch (both playing World of Warcraft). Matthew plugs watchgang.com. Brian thanks panel (exception: "except for Cindy"). Cindy apologizes for being late at very end: "I'm sorry for being late Brian." 07s in the chat. Signed off ~7:45.

"07s in the chat really appreciate the panel once again good night see you next time"

Topics Discussed

00:02:39
Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Eight guests introduce themselves: Bri (22, Miami/Panama, Finance student FSU, manifesting, OnlyFans Bible study, looking for 3 husbands), Molly Little (21, LA, porn actress, in relationship), Lauren (31, Moonlight Bunny Ranch courtesan + Tantra, single), Demi Hawks (24, LA, porn actress, in relationship), Cindy Zang (23, LA, OnlyFans/streamer, single; arrived 1hr late with cross neck tattoo), Madison (19, San Diego/SB, Whatever staff/SBCC student), Adrien (31, Salt Lake City, business owner, conservative), Matthew (38, LA, CEO watchgang.com). Cindy's tattoo authenticity debated at length.

00:16:57
Bri's 3-husband relationship model

Bri (SPEAKER_11) explains she is looking for 3 simultaneous husbands: 1) love/emotional support, 2) financial support, 3) sexual. Each husband handles their domain; she is not asking one person for everything. Has a Google form with questions including height, income, penis size. Panel debates whether she would find high-quality men willing to share her. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): men she would respect would not share her. Brian: this plan is unrealistic; the men she respects have options.

00:25:00
Bri's virgin claim controversy

Brian challenges Bri's claim to be a virgin. Bri states she is a virgin; Brian says he has received dozens of DMs with photos/videos matching her OnlyFans accounts (briati, Adeline Bri usernames). Bri admits to a video of oral sex but denies any penetrative intercourse videos. Claims videos showing intercourse are not her; others suggest tattoo matching (heart tattoo on buttock). Brian declines to pull up evidence on YouTube. Bri refuses to elaborate further.

01:33:30
Cindy Zang and Adrien conflict (cat fight)

Adrien (SPEAKER_02) calls Cindy Zang (SPEAKER_03) repulsive from early in the show, citing her lateness and what she perceives as a performative act. Escalates to Bri (SPEAKER_11) revealing prior Twitter beef with Cindy: Cindy allegedly threatened to "pull up" on Bri months earlier over a mutual streamer (connected to Aiden Ross's circle). Both claim the other started the beef. Cindy denies tweeting the threat (says a fan did it). Brian mediates; suggests a boxing match to settle it. Bri and Cindy nominally move on but tension continues.

02:06:41
Ariana Grande divorce and prenups

Panel reacts to Ariana Grande / Dalton Gomez divorce: $1.25M payment, half home proceeds, $25K attorney fees. Prenup was in place. Discussion of whether he got a fair deal. Brian: without prenup he could have claimed half of all community property earned during marriage (~$50M+). Molly and Adrien say they would sign a prenup. Adrien/Madison: would not get married without prenup. Lauren: would consider stopping sex work if partner wealthy enough for her to have children at home. Matthew: prenups protect prior assets; fair risk management tool.

02:38:30
Pornography: value, art, and impact

Bri (SPEAKER_11) says porn is not good; she did it and was depressed. Molly (SPEAKER_13) defends porn as art form — Shakespeare analogy: actors play villains so audience can experience emotions without doing the act. Adrien (SPEAKER_02) asks where the line is between art and degradation. Matthew (SPEAKER_10) critiques Bri for having built her platform on porn and now condemning it ("pulling up the ladder"). Lauren (SPEAKER_05): sex work was survival-driven early; she now enjoys it. Discussion of OnlyFans vs Playboy — girlfriend experience adds financial exploitation layer.

02:47:00
Men's biological monogamy and cheating

Bri (SPEAKER_11) argues men are biologically programmed to spread their seed and cannot be expected to be fully monogamous. Brian (SPEAKER_09) counters: humans have intellect, agency, and self-control; not beholden to base animal instincts. Bri: men cheat out of physical desire, not emotion; women cheat out of emotion. Bri herself wants 3 simultaneous husbands, undermining her monogamy argument. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): women are more pair-bond oriented by nature than men.

06:08:13
Patriarchy and wage gap debate

Debate on whether patriarchy exists and what female privilege looks like. Panel (esp. Molly SPEAKER_13) argues patriarchy is real via wage gap. Brian (SPEAKER_09) lists female privileges: affirmative action, no military conscription, more favorable treatment by police and courts, longer sentences for men for same crimes, ability to monetize sexuality. Matthew (SPEAKER_10): wage gap controlled for hours/jobs/career breaks disappears. Adrien (SPEAKER_02): women need more accountability; non-traditional women want traditional men (provider, leader, emotionally intelligent). Molly: pressed by Brian on how she is specifically oppressed; cannot give example on the spot.

06:27:06
Body count round

Brian asks panel for body counts. Results: Madison: 8. Molly Little: 100-200 (clarified: ~5 off-camera/civilian partners; rest on-camera). Demi Hawks: at least 150, probably ~200 (20-30 off-camera). Lauren: ~1,100 total; ~100+ before sex work; 200+ before formal escorting. Cindy Zang: declined; between 0 and 100 (narrowed to "between 0 and 30" when pressed; "I don't feel comfortable disclosing"). Bri: admitted oral sex; disputed intercourse; context of virgin claim controversy. Brian: "is it insecure for men to care about body count" discussion follows.

06:28:10
Is it insecure to care about body count?

Brian asks: is it insecure for a man to care about body count? Cindy: he should not ask; not a question of insecurity. Bri: biologically makes sense; not insecurity. Lauren: not insecure; just a preference difference — she would say "thank you for honoring yourself." Molly: not insecure; just not for him; she is open about having lost count. Adrien: men who care have valid reasons. Matthew: goes around the table; distinguishes between caring and disqualifying.

07:27:07
Bri rage-quits the show

Near the end of the show (~7:27), Brian puts it to the chat whether to kick Bri off. Chat responds affirmatively (begging Brian to kick her). Bri (SPEAKER_11) decides to leave preemptively: "I'm not going to give him the satisfaction." Molly (SPEAKER_13) comments: "you can't fire me I quit." Brian reads super chat: "she just came here to be dishonest." Bri leaves. Show wraps ~15 minutes later without her.

Transcript

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02:47:41
Laurendefines who they are okay as a what about you politician for me just because it could be you know it would mean I'd have to give up everything and it could
02:47:50
Laurenbe pretty like you know you know with all the crime against politicians and I'm I get kind of but like you assassination yeah I know yeah that's I don't want to get yeah well like how
02:48:01
Brian Atlaswhat if you're just like okay you're in Vegas right or in Nevada yeah um what if you're just dating like a local city council member was he was was it like on the DL like on you me dating him on the
02:48:12
Laurendeal well was it was it like publicly like I'm dating the city council member wait you're worried about him getting assassin no I'm worried about like um just I guess they're like oh we've got your wife at Ransom or whatever like you know
02:48:25
Brian Atlaslike give us this bill pass or I don't know you think there's like a high risk of like the mayor of Reno yeah this is not Venezuela yeah I know like like you know what if I'm involved in some like
02:48:36
Brian Atlasthing and you know like maybe a high up politician maybe that's a concern but I feel like you know if you stick to the the like low tier or mid- tier politicians I think you're good it sounds like which by the way you any of
02:48:49
Laurenyour have any of your clients been politicians yes but the clients but it was all NDA private and and that was I was comfortable with it because Senators any Senators mayor you but not I I just
02:49:01
Laurencan't say where but the mayor Giuliani is that what not juliani but it was a mayor but he's he's a cool guy but Congressman uh he U I don't know House of Representatives I
02:49:12
Laurendon't know I just know mayor just a mayor mayor any council members maybe if they didn't tell me but I did have to sign those ones they'll make you sign the NDA before you meet them and yeah Lauren has has uh anyone that you worked with ever broken that and if you can't
02:49:25
Laurenanswer that that's fine I'm just asking cuz sometimes ndas are just really flimsy not a bunny ranch but I've never had I would I will never have the guts to break one of those things like even even if it was a verbal like hey like
02:49:36
TTS / Chat Readerthe verbal agreement killer of cereal donated $100 4 Ines pee 150k a year 6'2 tall
02:49:47
TTS / Chat Readerwith a negative World Outlook and negative attitude in general or 10 PP 30k a year 5' 2 in tall that has a positive World Outlook and do his
02:49:57
Brian Atlasconfidence and Swagger pick we'll start with you neither of those were to the second round you got to pick don't don't be obnoxious just
02:50:06
Bripick you got to pick one the um pee big peee dude with a positive outlook in 30k he would be the sex husband in my no no no no no no
02:50:17
Brian Atlasno no no no just you can if in this scenario you can only be with one of them there can't be other husbands no that's what I'm saying like I would choose him to be in my group no no but
02:50:28
Brian Atlasyou don't get the group in this scenario you have to pick one I have my group no you don't get the group no group sorry this is a
02:50:38
Brian Atlashypothetical how would you I take both because one makes the 150k fin I have a question for you how would you feel how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this
02:50:51
Brian Atlasmorning um I don't know probably hungry okay all right well good for you um all right Molly what about you into
02:51:02
Molly Littlethe mic okay um I would 100% go with the second more happy guy cuz I'm a very optimistic person and I think that the first guy would just make my life
02:51:13
TTS / Chat ReaderI'm going to pull it up one more time just so you guys have a a reminder on the differential kill it cereal donated
02:51:20
TTS / Chat Reader$100 4 in PP 150k a year 6'2 tall with a negative World Outlook and negative
02:51:28
TTS / Chat Readerattitude in general or 10 PP 30k a year 5' 2 in tall that has a positive World Outlook and does confidence and Swagger
02:51:39
Laurenpick H I mean I mean from look fit I would do the 30 k a year 52 um yeah cuz I mean if he was confident he could yeah yeah yeah short
02:51:50
Unknownand happy and he has a big dick but like there's no amount of money that I would want to be in a relationship with someone who is just negative and nasty and constantly mean to me like in my personal life and my actual relationship
02:52:02
Brian Atlaslike no way yeah none of the above bro Cindy stop being a dork none of the above that's an
02:52:11
Brian Atlasanswer Cindy I I have a question for you how would you feel no no no hold on Cindy How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning hungry but like damn that's I
02:52:24
TTS / Chat Readerdon't like want to pick those guys I rather just be single do you know what the hypothetical is donated $100 as someone who makes three figures
02:52:35
TTS / Chat Readera month it's genuinely astounding to see what some women will do for pennies three figures are there are there some women in the room with us $900 a
02:52:45
Brian Atlasmonth what do you work a month he gave you his whole month salary as a bonus just now he's on only fans Forza is an only fans Creator and he's not doing well speaking of which you know
02:52:58
Brian Atlasthat whole wage Gap equal pay I think men should be paid uh equally on only fans and women should subsidize it oh like we pay for them yeah like you the
02:53:08
Brian Atlaswomen the women on only fans pay into like this this uh fund on only fans or only fans actually it's not you don't willingly do it only fans just takes
02:53:18
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)your money takes your money and then distributes it to the men the female Robinhood guys use some of your income to raise the guy's income would you donate some of yours no they can work
02:53:30
Laurenharder no harder okay so what about like women's soccer should they get paid the same as men's soccer no because it's not viewed as much say whoever whoever
02:53:40
TTS / Chat Readercounts on the views like like let's say like Fortsa donated $100 fig ha mol did you say we really believe you I I was going to say like I actually this is something that I've
02:53:52
Molly Littlethought about like for a while and I used to think that like yeah they should get paid equally but then I like actually did research and I realized the same thing the views and like the male
02:54:02
Molly Littleteams have larger stadiums that bring in like a lot of fans that travel to come see the shows do you think that they have large stadiums and that's why they have more fans or they built the stadiums because they had more fans I
02:54:15
Brian Atlasthink they built the stadiums because they had more fans yeah so they should get paid more yeah yeah let's let's uh get around on the kill of Serial question I think oh you refused you said
02:54:27
Brian Atlasjust pick none of the above you can't you got to pick Cindy stop being difficult stop being brat a brat you're being very
02:54:36
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)bratty I don't like it um the was that
02:54:45
Brian Atlaslook I was trying to read it if it was on there yeah we pulled it up two times already I've kind of repeated it few times guy who's tall and rich and has a small dick
02:54:55
Unknownand he's mean or a guy who's short or he's negative and then the guy who's short big dick doesn't make as much money but he's positive well done good
02:55:05
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)for you that's pretty much it guy who's short has a big dip and is very positive I would say that 30k the height thing I just I don't know yeah 52 and 30k year M
02:55:17
Madisonlike I just don't I can sorry moving on what about you you had your the positive guy but not because he has like a big dick or anything I just like positive people okay what what about you
02:55:30
Adrienum I would take the taller gentleman again because I'm tall but I don't really mind the the negative attitude because I think sometimes that could be perceived as cynicism but I think it'd be really good to debate him and just have longer thought out conversation so
02:55:43
Adrienmaybe he's just a thinker a little bit more not saying that people that are optimistic are totally ignorant I I don't think that at all but I just think it could lead to some deeper conversations potentially H Killa of seral I'm curious what the like the
02:55:55
Brian Atlasquestion that you would ask men is like what would be the kind of mirr opposite question that would you direct towards men if you were comparing like two women uh if you want um all right we have
02:56:06
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)Nickelodeon here Cindy can you read this one Cindy would you date a person that's paid to euthanize puppies veterinarian
02:56:19
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)yeah I just would never want to hear about their job yeah we cry oh my gosh um are you like slightly making like a racist joke or something like what's euthanize like put it down put it down
02:56:32
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)what do you think euth is that like a slightly like saying that Asian people eat dogs or something I don't know what what do you what's the definition of euthanize I was thinking that I was
02:56:44
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)thinking like putting like dogs why would that be racist I don't know I just like think the internet just talks in weird ways
02:56:56
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)sometimes okay but um no that's so sad no but he's like a vet he has to do oh we didn't do red flag jobs for us we didn't okay if he's
02:57:08
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)like a veterinarian then yeah this his job um we get did I oh you didn't do yours we ended on you which was politician um with you and you I would I
02:57:20
Molly Littlethink the three main jobs on my list would be a politician a lawyer or a police officer because those three job
02:57:27
Molly Littletypes have a higher rate of deception MH yeah
02:57:38
BriBri mine is going to sound so up I mean I wouldn't I dated a Uber driver I would
02:57:47
Brinever do that again i' rather die than date Uber driver again um I would not date someone who works at Smoothie King wait was it because he was an Uber
02:57:56
Bridriver like is it because he was an Uber driver or he was just because guy feel like I feel like if you are okay with doing that for so long and you don't
02:58:08
Laurenfind a way to get out of that situation like I can't be with you cuz you don't have a growth mindset I can't be with that quick comment about that the mil milary sent my dad a letter cuz he wanted to be an Uber driver and they
02:58:20
Laurensaid in the military letter from the VA you will make too much money being an Uber lift driver and if you do it you will lose all of your disability benefits my dad's like 100% so like he
02:58:31
Unknownwas shocked that like it would I was like what and I guess they make money I guess I think that number is like 50k I think it's it's partially that and it's partially yeah like the the threshold for like when you would stop getting
02:58:43
Unknowndisabilities like way too low well I wonder what the threshold what the threshold for the dis okay I'm saying I couldn't be so you're saying any career that were they're broke that's basically what you're
02:58:56
Brisaying basically that's a red flag if you are stuck there like if you are in there and I meet you and I feel like you want to like do better and grow and go up in the company maybe you can now be a
02:59:07
Brifreaking um corporate for for Uber I don't care as long as you're trying to get out of that one position you're in would you date a blue color worker yes they make a lot of money like
02:59:18
Bria plumber yes they make a lot they make like six figures Waste Management they make a lot of money I'm just saying as long as you
02:59:28
Bricould have like a a good job where you're not stuck struggling and you are okay with that like I don't want you to be okay with struggling mhm yeah I was going to say what if he was like your
02:59:39
Brisex guy but I know we don't want to engage in that so I I pulled back I was thinking of asking that too wait if he's in my SE what if the Uber driver was sex guy do matter how much he makes in right right cuz you have you want three
02:59:51
Brihusbands I do want all three of them to have the same mindset as I want to do better in life and I want to grow and I want to like do for myself too cuz also that's the thing I don't agree with when people say like oh I want my
03:00:04
Brian Atlaspartner to have all this time for me no you really don't do you want kids cuz that gets annoying no you don't want kids I suppose that makes your Arrangement a little simpler but still
03:00:14
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)kind of did you say if you expect expected them to be monogamous with you all three of them as long as they keep Communication open they could do whatever they want so they're able to go
03:00:27
Briwith other girls yeah if they talk about it and say hey I'm going to do this like don't go against my back and do it word any red flag careers for
03:00:35
Brian Atlasyou just any job for a woman she can't be she has employed yeah all right what about you okay I got a list here so hair
03:00:47
Brian Atlasstylist red flag why hair stylist oh yeah I'm which wait your ex-wife was uh hairstylist that wasn't is that why you're wearing a hat now you said that
03:00:59
Brian Atlasyou had a hat hair or something I don't let my ex cut my hair crazy okay hair stylist Works in HR
03:01:08
Brian Atlasflight attendant travel nurse and nurse two different categories of nurses yeah once they lose empathy they kind of just see people as a number oh I
03:01:21
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)know what you yeah wait which one is worse which is it travel nurse or nurse that's worse travel nurse is worse okay travel nurse is worse Brian what's your ideal job type then for someone for a lady yeah Elite
03:01:36
Brian Atlasgymnast Elite level gymnast p vating is acceptable Sprinter I'll accept a sprinter I used to be a sprinter in track
03:01:49
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)was the fast runner she a runner she a truck star are you is this like you shooting your shot Cindy are you shooting your shot I a
03:01:59
TTS / Chat Readerfast runner I enjoyed like competing okay good talk oh spve by the I am loyal donated $100 can we get more input from the girl
03:02:11
Adrienwith the glasses and black hair she's hot and rational I am lawyer oh your favorite respon to I am lawyer as I said because I'm a bit more on the
03:02:23
Adriencreative side I tend to gravitate towards the type A's so if I was single and you were a genuine honest person I think it could work out um but in this General situation I'm trying to listen
03:02:34
TTS / Chat Readermore rather talk this stupid Bish donated $99 you're going to let that slide Cindy thinks euthanasia is a racist term this
03:02:45
Unknownstupid bit yeah that's what I was I well youth in Asia that makes
03:02:56
Molly Littlesense that gets to pass if you don't know what that word means like that is kind of funny if you don't know what that word means and you hear the word like youth in Asia so to recap when when
03:03:07
Brian Atlasyouth in Asia came up earlier in the conversation that's not a word you're familiar with and you thought youthanasia was about like eating dogs
03:03:18
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)yeah just cuz like the internet like has like racist like jokes about how Asian people eat dogs and stuff so I kind of just you knew what Ethan Asia no I actually didn't I actually did not did
03:03:29
Brian Atlasyou you thought it was racist cuz figure they mentioned the dog like you know it's kind of hot that she doesn't know what that word is in like a weird roundabout way I actually want to if if
03:03:42
Adrienyou wouldn't mind I actually wanted to pass Molly a compliment because I feel like there's just such a energy from these ladies and over and even though I don't technically morally agree with what you're doing as a career path I
03:03:55
Adrienthink that's okay I'm not anyone to judge you but I at least think that you're super genuine and you obviously appreciate loyalty and honesty and a partner and I just think that that's a beautiful thing as long as you're upfront with them and you seem to be very very honest I just think that
03:04:08
Adrienthat's a good quality to have you said you were feeling like a a sincerity or yeah 100% like I said even though I don't you know I want I would love if if she did something else um but that's not on me to tell her what to do I'm just
03:04:21
Adriensaying at least she's honest about it and it doesn't seem to be any sort of silly act coming on to what you just said who are you saying she yeah like who are you referring continue I I can
03:04:31
Adrienkeep my note I can I'm saying Point Blank I think Molly seems to be genuine and honest about what she's doing even though I don't agree with tactically what she's doing where obviously Cindy
03:04:43
Adrienhas been disingenuous and putting on a silly act the whole time which is irrit obvious would you like to respond to the accusations of being insincere and putting on would you would you want to
03:04:56
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)you want to read I just don't get how I'm not genuine like you don't know Asia means no I don't like I don't know what that word mean actually and that's why I actually whisper it if you watch it back
03:05:08
Briagain I was just like oh what does that mean I have a question question did you go to college B you I dropped out sophomore year oh that's what I was going to ask like how far did you make in school cuz some the you say I'm
03:05:20
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)like what the actual what do you mean what the actual like like just that like now you're like like what saying that I'm not
03:05:30
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)intelligent and I think I am really smart actually um so I don't I really don't get where you're coming from with saying like I'm dis what was your
03:05:40
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)question for her Bri oh I was how far did you make it in school but I pass I went to like I literally went to uni for free I decided to drop out because um I
03:05:50
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)started to work um pursuing what I actually wanted to do so I don't know did you you finished high school though yeah I finished high school and I had like a four-year degree like at a really nice University in Connecticut you got
03:06:03
Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)wait I thought you said you dropped out of college but you had a scholarship for four not scholarship well you said you got a degree you went to for free well actually I yeah I would consider it like a scholarship like that for free oh you
03:06:16
Brian Atlasgot the scholarship so was it like a euthanasia scholarship about like that's what your that's like what you're
03:06:27
TTS / Chat Readerstudying kilo of cereal donated $100 male version a 5T 11 Ines tall 36 2436 hourglass with the worst snagging
03:06:38
TTS / Chat Readercontrolling Behavior imaginable or a 5T 2 in tall 455 3545 with the utmost respect for you and gives you your Freedom I'm not sure what
03:06:49
Brian Atlas45 35 45 like the measurements chest weight no I know what that I know what that look like on a body like she's fat is that those measurements on the short
03:07:01
Brian Atlasshe's a little larger and has less of an Hour Glass than the the first girl does I don't really
03:07:09
Brian Atlaslike a tough one uh I like but he says 52 so that's a I like like short you like a little
03:07:19
Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)belly 5 what you like a little belly fat I mean I don't mind it it's Naggy runway model or dumpy but
03:07:30
Madisonreally loves you I feel like you rather dump I'm taking I'm taking the the short one with the respect I'm taking the shorty with the respect you too much I don't need the
03:07:42
Brian Atlasrespect I take the I don't know if this I'm she can nag me too I don't can't do it kill of cereal I don't know if it was the perfect one but I appreciate you making the the male version of this thank you very much man
03:07:54
Brian Atlasappreciate your uh ttss tonight thank you man wait so you were questioning her Bona fides when it come came to her
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)education did you want to respond Cindy I think I did really well in school I literally went to school every single day like I love school actually
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)and for her to say that is just like honestly mean and I don't know where that's coming from um I hope she I
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)don't know like you hope she was like what do you hope she can like stop projecting that energy onto me like I don't know what it is okay College
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)doesn't Define how smart you are but just like how you like if I don't know word that that does not define that I'm like a dumb girl or anything like that and that's where you're like kind of like coming at gurus don't go to
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Laurencollege G gurus they don't they don't they just learn from another Guru and they're pretty pretty smart people so it's it's like howy I don't have to go to college but I can go to college not going to college is a major career
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)choice that a lot of people take a lot of entrepreneurs like you know don't end up dropping out of college if they end up pursuing a job that they want to do and that's what I like that's my passion
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Brian Atlasif you don't if you can't understand that and you're like you're I already said College doesn't Define how smart you are I literally just said that okay cind did you want to wipe off that fake
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)neck tattoo it's not I have some makeup remover here why do you even have makeup remover you know why why you know what do you need to make like wipe off your
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Brian Atlasown makeup he secretly does drags it's for the rating bit okay uh here let's see where were we okay let me read these other chats sorry we're get we're just getting to the Super chats
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Brinow um we're a little behind on those our good friend bri can you read this one for us me watching this argument has real these days personalities and I like Molly she's
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)cute and upbeat fun to be with ladies how often do you orgasm while working what the Haram hello that's like your average only I just want to go back to her like
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)I really don't like disingenuine is a strong word disingenuous well disingenuine disingenuine like they kind of mean like around the same thing so you want to go back to her what I'm saying is like
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Adrienthat's a strong word and you don't have like any reasons to back it up at all really because I think you're acting silly my point was that while technically and tactically I don't
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TTS / Chat Readeragree truth bomb donated $100 just going to say the obvious going to college doesn't make you smart at all
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TTS / Chat Readeridiots get dumb degrees all the time and are still dumb AF feminist stud exactly yeah like there's gender studies women's
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Unknownstudies Brian that's critical Communications that's what I studied critical about the history of music I loved that class communication
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Brian Atlasunderwater basket weaving yeah wow yeah wait so uh did you guys want to continue your
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TTS / Chat Readerlittle uh I guess I I'm just trying to see where she's coming from like cuzz I don't think I'm a dis $1100 hey.com Jennifer Lopez bri can we
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TTS / Chat Readerhave you go ahead and spell youth in Asia for us e u t
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Brih e n a z no Naja oh s i a youth in Asia
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MadisonMaddie said no sorry bro Maddie you oh my God I got a youth I thought she was done cuz she paused I the how c
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Brian Atlasspell okay thank you man um wait okay you guys were cat fighting keep going go ahead wait actually no no say it bro never
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TTS / Chat Readermind never mind go ahead bro if you just well spit out what I don't know I actually I don't really nion donated $100 where is Cindy W is in sat not a
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TTS / Chat ReaderChinese last name Cindy let's see who else is inept at definitions what is a woman okay do you want Cindy to answer
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Brian Atlasfirst and then we could he donated $100 wait let's start with Bri and then we'll go we'll just go around this way what is a woman what is a woman starting with you Bri why me it said Cindy well we'll
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Brian Atlasget to Cindy he's asking everybody though you always start with me you always start with me deal with it no deal with it okay Cy could go first no
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Brian Atlasyou can go first you can go first just just do it a woman is
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Brisomebody that
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Brihas a vagina okay biologically she has vagina and a female reproductive system oh okay I have uh learned this
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Molly Littlefrom the last time time the easiest thing to say is I am a woman next well no no no no you that's a cop he's asking you to Define what is a
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Molly Littlewoman you can't use um according circular well definition I am a woman um but I my personal definition of a woman
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Molly Littleis anybody that would like me to refer to them as a woman so if I what is the thing they're referring to you can't use the the word in the
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Molly Littledefinition their embodiment of their energy what is that embodiment you have to Define whatever they present it to be in the moment it's it's intangible what is a human what is a human yeah it's
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Molly Littleintangible that comes down to like body and spirit no it is because it comes down to body and spirit a human is both body and spirit and the spirit has energy and what is a cup what is a cup this is a cup and like I said I am a
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)woman if you want that answer I am a woman defining something is not the same as just say what it is like you're Define you have to Define defining is not the same as you're saying this is a cup that's not definition right okay um
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Molly Littlea cup is a thing that holds water okay you described like something so what is a woman a woman is someone who provides the spiritual essence of a woman but you can't use the word because then you're
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Brian Atlasstill just going in circles provides a feminine spiritual Essence okay feminine spiritual Essence what is feminine what
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Laurenis feminine that wasn't the question okay we next do a Hau a woman is peace power presence
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Unknownand perfection in a man's or woman's eyes yeah I like this St yeah sorry that was my snapping yeah it's a poetry like a beatnick those beatnicks in the black
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Unknownhats snap not cultured snap okay go ahead um what is a I would say it's like a woman is a category of like
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Unknownidentity and many different people may or may not feel like they fit into that category and want to identify with being a woman I think that gender identity is like a really broad umbrella and a
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Unknownreally broad spectrum and you know people change throughout their life they their gender sometimes like and just like yeah I would say like woman is sometimes people are gender fluid or
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Unknownsometimes people realize like later that like they identify more one it's not made up I mean gender gender is made sex is real but gender and gender expression that's all like that's
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)society argument takes away all meaning from what words are just saying that like it's different stuff like there are real world repercussions from like not having a genuine argument about this
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Unknowntopic like what well like well actually I would argue I do have a gen what I would say that I do have a genuine argument right here about gender expression and identity and you just it you just don't agree so you're telling
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)me it'ser I'm not I'm not saying that what I'm saying is by saying that the word is made up and that by saying that you can just change whatever you want by saying the words out loud it does it takes away the meaning from the words
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)when you're like gender and sex are not the same yeah they have always been the same basically like when we say what is a woman we're asking you what is an adult human female that's the definition of it okay so you're no no that's a different question what's an adult human
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Unknownfemale it's a woman yeah those are the same that's what woman me that if I don't answer the way that you want me to answer that I'm wrong I'm dangerous I don't even have a point that is what you're saying cuz I I had a point said
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Unknownno you said you came back and you said you didn't say this specific answer your man at which you make the argument oh cuz I stuttered cuz I stutter so now I'm a idiot she's a high pitched D how wait how many genders are there I
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)really want to know how many genders are there gender is a specrum gender is an expression but should okay fine let's just let me just like concede to and say gend Spectrum you can choose your gender
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)okay let's just say that okay but in the real world when when there are laws made for those genders like what like I don't know how about just in sports laws made by who people that are looking out for
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TTS / Chat Readerokay so now we're talking about sports and then let's just talk about the sports thing then sure so then TR F donated $100 listen to what you're saying chicks
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Unknownwith ticks bro this gender stuff is stupid there are men and women that's it men have Ducks women have vaginas I agree okay if you want to separate by
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Unknownbiological sex that's fine but that doesn't do you agree with that sure for some sports I think that makes sense but I'm not but if you gender expression doesn't always like match your like
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)assigned sex I'm I'm understanding that is your perspective of it but what I'm saying is that if you go out into the world and those laws are still preserved separately for males and females
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)biologically okay what is the Goddamn point in even talk like what is saying what you are I'm a woman I'm a man I'm a Potato like what the the point of it what was the point of the question what's the point like what's the whole
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)point of even identifying as any gender then what's like what are you g why are you dressed like a man today I think that's really dis am I dressed like a man I think I think just I think yeah I kind of am okay so why why cuz's why am
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UnknownI dressed in this in these yeah I mean you have a dick if you were wearing a dress you'd still have a dick you'd still be a man but why are you dressed like a man I mean if my had balls she'd be my uncle I don't know what you're saying you identify as a man I don't
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Unknownidentify as a man I am a man tell me you're a man you're presenting yourself as a man your gender expression is as a man I get what you're saying I think it's like how how you want people to interpret you I don't think you do I
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)don't think do get okay look why when people say when people have this argument about you shouldn't be able to change your gender just by saying I'm this different gender it's not because
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)people want to like stop them from being who they are it's because in the real world there are actual consequences from not having a genuine and honest conversation about like what well it's science first of all no but what are
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Brilike what are these concept we so there are I know that you said go ahead I have a question yeah so since I can change my gender can I also change my age and my race cuz it doesn't matter
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Briwhat I was born as because I could just change it why is that you can change wait I want to know like if I was born I'm I could say I am
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Bri33 now I'm not 22 anymore I'm 33 now cuz that's what I identify as and I'm no longer Hispanic I'm white now so okay but like your would that be appropriation like for for like cultural
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)purposes it be cult if I said I was black then that would be well actually well why why it's the same it's the same thing I could change it's the same it's your biology it's sence they got us cannot just declare you're something
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Unknowndifferent and become that thing if they have a vagina from a sex ch are they a woman but they didn't tell you like and nobody know how would you know if they didn't tell you is that I think that sex and gender are two different things and
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)you think they're the same and so if that's how we continue this conversation we're just going to be screaming at each other and there's going to be no resolution if I concede to you and say that in this universe no I'm just giving a hypothetical here so in this universe
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)where gender and sex are different right does that really make a difference about what the fundamental argument is like really what we're saying is I can change whatever I want like I don't have to be a 22y old that's not what we're saying
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Molly Littlewhat we're saying is not that we can change at we want with whatever Liberty and whatever we're feeling like because that's not truthful to who we are as people what's the value of gender if it's a spectum made up what I was say is
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Molly Littlethat I think that where you guys are getting confused with what we are saying is that most people do not want to change their gender they feel true to
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Molly Littlewhat their body displays however there are people in this world who do not feel like what their body displays outwardly portrays everything that they
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Molly Littlefeel I understand that people have as an American culture are really lacking other perspectives of the world because like her and I were talking
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Laurenabout Native American culture uh the emate uh well so so I'm super yeah the third Spirit um I'm in oh I'm part native American and then I mean there's this one book called the universal one
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Laurenand it's an oul book by Walter Russell and he says um there is a spirit body cuz we're all male and female like energies together and so yeah and so my
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)spirit body is masculine but this body is feminine I understand that people feel differently and it changes and you can be like growing up a tomboy and then you're not and then you're feminine I
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)understand those things occur could even be like hormone like fluctuation well look no matter how many hormones I take I'm still going to be a man it doesn't matter I might present as more feminine because are you have a different
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)experience but the words that we using words have value they matter yes and in the real world when laws are changed to support a strange narrative that men and women are the same and can intertwine
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Molly Littlewhenever they want There's real damage that happens to actual women like that happens we talking about why this is such a controversial topic Iman why
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)controversial for gend and P the definition for sex that's irrelevant not irant because what it actually comes down to is is the law that Happ the
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Unknownworld I'm going to talk yeah because you said your argument here is that words have meaning words have value they have immutable meaning so I'm telling you these two words have different meanings look it up and you're telling me Oh no it doesn't matter now what these words
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)mean I think you're being crazy I think you're misunderstanding what my perspective is on what you're saying if those things are different if gender and sex are different if look them up you
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)said that you said it's an it's like an irrefutable fact that word saying words and see that they nobody on this side of the table that would argue that you
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TTS / Chat Readercan't change your gender really cares they're asking about male female if you ask me a question where it away if you just feel like you're the wrong gender SL sex and it's just a feeling then why
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TTS / Chat Readerdo you have to transition to the opposite gender if none of it matters why do it you can't change this to see who continue with your point continue with your point go ahead go ahead go ahead no no no go ahead go ahead you made it about definitions I said Look up
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Unknownthe definition and then all of a sudden you got scared and you said yeah and you said that definitions don't matter meaning besides the meaning that you ascribe to them what I said and what
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)everybody that has a logical mind to say oh I'm not logical are you good I'm not logical are you good all right I'll okay all right if those two things are different
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)like you said then we're not really asking the question what is a woman what's a female and really and really what it takes next is The Logical
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)conclusion which is we don't think that men and women are the same or males and females are the same like remove those words if they're just not synonymous with male and female we don't like the
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)words are irrelevant then we care about the meaning of it and and actually sparing women in sports for instance that's an example in the real world question you wanted to ask me that what's a female what is a female yeah
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)what's a female biological sex what is a female I don't XY chromosomes okay the toker Joker balls and females he just says balls play combative sports with each other thank you toker Joker but
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)that wasn't the original question CU you didn't like how I answered the not it's not that I didn't like it it's that that's ultimately what matters okay that's ultimately what actually matters this is a sports question well that's one facet of it yeah do I think that
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TTS / Chat Readershould males and females play combative Sports against each other MMA I think MMA no I think Cal donated $100 don't forget all the regret the
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TTS / Chat Readersuicide and the the transitioners that are coming out recently their message is more important than the one that tells your children they should mutilate themsel I agree I have a question like
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Brido you think it's okay there's this one girl her name is JZ she got famous on YouTube for becoming with she's transition yeah I'm friends with her brother's uh her brother she transitioned when she was like years old
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Unknownis when she started do you think that is okay how old is she now she's like 20 something okay so I think that the world has changed quite a lot since she was 8
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Unknownyears old and think when she was a child transness wasn't so much as part of the discussion I think it's kind of different now because it is on social media and it is taught in schools like
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Unknownyoung kids like do you think that's okay get confused and like because they have the worst like okay so whatever like 20 years ago or 10 years ago however it was like if a kid was questioning their gender identity and they would go up to
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Unknowntheir parents and be like I just don't feel like I'm this I feel like I I want to be this way whatever and that was like something that would come from within them I think because social media has changed Society has changed kids go
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Unknownup to their parents now and they're like I have gender dysmorphia I need to transition that's kind of they would only say that if they if they saw stuff on YouTube exactly that's what I'm saying that's why I say like the world is different now and it doesn't mean
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Unknownthat it's accurate or corre correct I know I'm saying like I'm not I'm not supporting it well but you're using it as a reason to perpetuate this myth that women you listen to me if you would
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)listen to me I'm not perpetuating a myth that men and women are the same nobody said that I don't know where that came from said a woman is just I feel like a woman and now I'm a woman hey I'm a woman now and now I'm a woman and that's
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Unknownit right if that's the case if you can just declare it what's the purpose of feeding hormones to Children what's the purpose of that I'm saying that we shouldn't I'm saying that it's a lot more accessible like this language
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Molly Littlenowadays and that it can be like really different yeah she's making a reasonable Point there's literally studies of like Tourette's for example was a big thing on Tik Tok like a year or two ago I think and then there were cases of kids
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Molly Littlewho had never had Tourette's before but were obsessed with watching videos of people having Tourette's ticks who would like pretend they had Tourette and they got tourettes but that doesn't mean that there's not real people with tourettes
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Molly Littleyes I I don't follow that logic well the logic is is there's people on Tik Tok on YouTube whatever hold on we'll get to in
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TTS / Chat Readera gender is not Vibe donated $100 6'4 8 figure net worth built like a Greek god smart loyal but thinks the
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TTS / Chat Readertrans movement is complete b s o r 5 foot obese unemployed broke effeminate with a micro penis but supports trans the first one cuz he's actually like got
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Molly Littlea brain well can I finish my point first wait just answer answer the TTS um I would take the buildt like a Greek god
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Madisonguy uh quick answers please okay okay I guess um ah I can't give cre then I'll take the small one go ahead smart loyal built like a god um the great God guy
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Brian AtlasFirst Option First Option really quick we didn't fully get to go around on the what is a woman question we'll continue the conversation but why don't you answer I think that a woman is someone
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)that has a female genital but I do agree with what you know Molly and I don't know your name Dem Dem me and Lauren Lauren what they're like trying to like
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)tell you is that there is people out there that are like you know feel like they're more feminine you know and they want to do something about
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)it um and those are still humans at the end of the day and we need to like be aware of that I AG and I think that showing compassion
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TTS / Chat Readerpeople is truth bomb donated $100 this is 100% an agenda leave the kids alone the trans stuff has blown up
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TTS / Chat Readerthanks to social media every generation has become gayer and gay it's indoctrination and you're proving this IRL all right that's truth bomb for you
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Brian AtlasI guess uh with with a truth bomb appreciate your uh TTS we also have I'm preempting this because we have another one that that just came through now
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TTS / Chat Readerfrom I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100 back in the listen to you are you serious nothing you have said or done would make you even remotely close to a
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TTS / Chat Readerrole model anyone should take advice from I was staying out tonight but holy dang she is dumb thank you very much thank you good
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Brian Atlasall right wait okay biolog female what is a woman adult human female okay all right there you go oh wait I'm I'm gonna say something let let me just read this chat really quick since I have it coming
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Brian Atlasthrough no BS kind of gal in law and sports biology in relation to individual forces all that matters I'd rather be unfair to the few than put the many at risk thank you from no BS kind of gal
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)appreciate your $69 uh streamlabs message thank you I think that the arguments on both sides of this are always passionate because there is a
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)fundamental dis like misunderstanding and then disconnect between what we really care about I don't think the majority of people that say like men and women uh is like let's say it's not a spectrum whatever that a woman is an
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)adult human female the people that have that Viewpoint they're not trying to like oppress somebody that feels effeminate or stop them from living a life that they want it really comes down to
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)protecting innocent people which I would say if you allow me to finish women in Sports who have been injured and hurt because or even like just their careers are sullied because men beat them
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)because they identify as women in that Sport and children who are actually treated and attempted to like change their gender through chemical castration hormone therapy and actual surgery
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)that's really where all of the argument comes from that's it I mean obviously there's an argument for saying like hey you know you have to be truthful in the words that you say and like you know words have meaning and all that but removing all of that it's really about
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Unknownprotecting innocent people we're I agree I like to protect innocent people I think I didn't like that you asked me one question I answered it in a way that you didn't
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Unknownagree with and then you tried to argue with me that words have meaning but then when I tell you that they mean something you don't think they mean that now it doesn't matter what these words mean that's where I was getting at that's where I got like really heated because
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Briit's like the way the conversation goes I'm sorry I lasered in on you about this General argument that I have I don't think it should be so normalize like I agree like do whatever you want like um
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Briif you want to dress as a woman portray as a woman you can but like don't teach kids that and don't make it seem like it's okay I have I was going to say I
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Molly Littleagree we should all teach our children to be as inclusive as possible and you know even if it's not something that we personally agree with uh we should always teach our kids uh to be respectful of all walks of life I I I
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Laurenliked how you brought up Jazz cuz I'm friends uh with her brother s standard Jennings and so one on one of his posts I commented and I said for parents I said is it better like I I feel like if
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LaurenI was a parent and I'm not but if I was I would feel more comfortable if I'm like hey I will help give you some money at 18 do whatever you'd like but I just don't feel comfortable being involved in their s lives anything under that
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Brian Atlasbecause I don't want them to be like why would you do that to me Mom and I I was I'd be like here money do what you'd like at 18 we're going to read a couple chats final question on though if I can try to reel it into something that's
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Brian Atlasdating related would you guys object to a man not wanting to date a transgender
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Brian Atlaswoman I think that's actually before I have you answer since you seem to be pretty strong on this would you object to a man not wanting to date a transgender woman no I think on like on
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Brian Atlasan individual basis like every has their own preferences like do you think it' be transphobic to not want to date a
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Unknowntransom not necessarily I mean like if you're like oh because trans people are dirty and stinky and I don't want to smell that's kind of weird but
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Unknownif you're just like that's not how I like to have you know sex that's not like it's like our all lesbians man haters no it's just not their sexual preference no okay well would it let me
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Brian Atlasask a different question then would it be straight to have intercourse for a h is it straight for a
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Brian Atlasmale who is not trans to have sex with a male who is a transgender woman it's straight no I think it's like
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)kind of a great I think like cuz I I um was just reading like on the internet I don't I don't know if you guys know
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)Nikita dragon and Harry JY like apparently they've had you know sex and stuff like that so I don't think he's
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Cindy Zang / Demi Hawks (mixed)like I think he likes like he liked her because she was very feminine in her way so I don't know I can't I think okay
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Brian Atlasokay did did you answer this like so okay here's the question is it straight for a male who is not trans to have sex with a male who is a transgender woman
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Unknownis that straight I think it's like a little bit of a great I mean it's it's straight like yeah I would say that's it's straight it's maybe on the
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Unknownline because like the actual sex act itself I mean if this person has had like bottom surgery and they don't have a dick anymore that's like very very straight
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Unknownlike no question about it very straight I would say so yeah what if they what if they identify as a woman but they haven't had bottom surgery I would still say that's straight I would say like like not every straight guy is going to like that not every straight gu is going
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)to have preference for that but is a gay to a woman in the ass what no that's not but he's so if I if I suck her penis it's straight that's what
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)you're saying yeah that's straight you actually believe that yeah I do for real yeah I doo you'd be cool with your boyfriend doing that I don't have a boyfriend what if you did he could suck a trans girls wiener sure and you're
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Matthew / Demi Hawks (mixed)you're cool with that it's not weird why the not cuz it's gay well he's dating me he's not gay but he's sucking a weener okay what do we hate by men no we don't hate anyone no no one is saying anything about hating it's just that
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Unknownit's a question about it's a we're trying to categorize so I think it's like it's again it's like on a it's like how like that guy wants to see it himself we're not
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TTS / Chat Readerjudging it we're not asking you to judge it we're saying is it stra you ask donated $100 bro stop it's gay two males is 100%
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Brian Atlasgay stop this now here I I have a series of questions that could perhaps sway things a little bit so you said it would be straight for a male straight male
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Brian Atlasheterosexual male to suck a trans girl's dick yeah you think that would be you think that' be straight okay what about to have sex with yeah okay it would be
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Brian Atlasstraight so what what is what does straight mean well again like sexuality is a spectrum no no no no but well yes so if we're going to say straight that's one end of the spectrum wa wait wait let
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Unknownme just concede fine sexuality is a spectrum what does being straight mean it means that you are attracted to people who Express their gender opposite
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Brian Atlasto how you do Straight is a short form slang for heterosexual uhhuh so how could it ever be a heterosexual
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Brian Atlasrelationship if they're the same sex okay you win oh okay is that how we want to like play it what do you mean play it I'm not are
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Unknownyou oh are you conceding the point I'll concede the point I think some straight guys aren't as straight as they think and I think that you can be like Oh I'm mostly straight but maybe I trans girls like then they're not
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Unknownand what's wrong with that what's wrong with that nothing's wrong with they're just not straight I have I have a question I'm I'm I don't so I would be
03:38:23
Laurencurious to if someone said like like let's say I was a transom and you were man and I did not tell you that I was a trans woman that's
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TTS / Chat Readernon-consent if a gay guy transitions into a woman and still only likes to Bo dudes is she straight now Mini Mouse gay guy transitions into a woman and still
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Brian Atlasonly likes to boink dudes wait let me think about that I know I like that word boink so it's like a do you want to answer you can answer it do you want to answer the question yeah I think that
03:39:00
Unknownperson would probably identify themselves as straight like I identify as a woman and I'm into men that's how they would say that they would say they were straight wait but you just hold on
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TTS / Chat Readerlet me just go back again so straight means what means that you are attracted to people who are women or who identify as women
03:39:21
TTS / Chat Readeris that word definitions matter donated $100 Oxford eological dictionary previously defined gender as kind breed sex derived from the Latin abative case
03:39:33
Brian Atlasof genus like hinos which refers to birth now redefined to fit the agenda they're changing definitions they're changing
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Brian Atlasfirst it was the Websters and now it's Oxford they're all everything's getting changed so wait straight still straight
03:39:53
Brian Atlasyeah so the okay if a gay guy transitions into a woman and still only likes tooing things is she straight now yeah it is straight so like he was
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Molly Littlegay before and straight now that the he was Bing a male and he's having sex with M so he is straight but would the sex even be consensual if that's what she's saying is what you're saying I'm saying
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Briit is straight wait it's straight if what if a guy transitions into a woman who has sex with males he
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Brian Atlasstraight to the two P stars who have had LX together would you munch oh my God bro Jesus Christ uh okay if yes put that
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Brian AtlasGina where your mouth is what okay do you guys want to quickly answer that I guess I don't know I mean like I'm I would be certainly I'm not like sexually attracted to um trans people to be honest with you it's
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Molly Littlenot my preference but I would be very curious to experience that for the fun of it yeah I mean it depends on the on the
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Briperson wait so okay repeat your point if a guy a male transitions into a female but is still having sex with males that person is straight because it is sex
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Bribetween two that's wait I think yeah I thought you might have had it yeah I have it mixed up mixed up but yeah it is good yeah okay so going back
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Brian Atlasthis is the chat that started this all off again I'll pull it back up wait hold on let me see oh it was this one okay question for Minnie Mouse donated
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TTS / Chat Reader$100 if a gay guy transitions into a woman and still only likes to boink dudes is she straight now Bri into if you can sko into the
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Brian Atlastable a little bit this is for you I already answered I said yes but I you you just conceded the point but now you're back to you square one you know you guys were making fun of
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Unknownlike feminist studies and women's studies and things like that before no cuz let me get to my point all right okay how's that relevant but okay because you don't understand the
03:42:05
Unknownwhat gender is has evolved and changed over time over like the time of humanity how we've understood gender and how
03:42:14
Unknownwe've UND sex has changed but sex like XX chromosones XY chromosones like that has stayed that is biological that is you know like what it's been forever but
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Unknowngender and the way that that's like expressed has always been somewhat separate from that somewhat different in the way that people Define their gender and Define their sexuality I have a question for you do there's and this
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Brian Atlasisn't a position that I hold but when it comes to for example men uh men who are gay there was a CO hord of people probably still is that actually believes that they that's actually not their
03:42:49
Brian Atlassexuality they believe that uh it's something that they can change would you do you agree with that that like uh they can not be gay is that like is that
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Brian Atlassomething that you think is possible no I think if you're if you're gay you're gay but so as somebody who's straight who are you to dictate well if stra straight is I'm not dictating so if I I
03:43:13
Brian Atlasconsider myself straight and you're saying somebody who's straight can be attracted and have sexual intercourse with trans women but you don't have to my sexuality I find it offensive that you are questioning my sexuality in the
03:43:26
Brian Atlassame way that someone might question a a gay man's sexuality and say well no you're you don't actually like other men it's just in your head am I telling you you don't like
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Brian Atlaswomen well you're telling me as or you just don't like a certain kind of woman like you you are not attracted to trans women I'm attracted to females I'm
03:43:48
Brian Atlasattracted to females that's fine but no but your position your position is that a straight person a straight person can also be attracted to