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Date: 2026-02-16

Duration: 10h 05m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMillie Slaughter >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_04Valerie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Esther(guest)

SPEAKER_06Millie Slaughter(guest)

SPEAKER_09Stella(guest)

SPEAKER_11Lonnie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jocelyn(guest)

SPEAKER_14Shara(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyBrian challenges Stella's claim of being Christian while doing OnlyFans

Key MomentLonnie reveals she was sex trafficked at age 20

Key MomentAndrea: ran over baby daddy 3 times with Kia Soul while 9 months pregnant

Key MomentLexi: at 17, boyfriend cheated on her with her biological mother

Key MomentMillie made ex unknowingly perform oral after she slept with someone else

ControversyShara critiques red pill ideology as damaging fear-mongering

OtherShow wraps. Brian announces upcoming debates.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Stella (OF/virgin/Christian), Jocelyn (actress/machete survivor), Esther (stripper/author), Lonnie (sex trafficked/Army), more.

Stella's Virginity vs Christianity vs OF

Extended debate: can she be Christian while doing OnlyFans? Brian cites Bible verses.

Valentine Day Stories

Who had sex, who is celibate, dating dynamics.

Lonnie Was Sex Trafficked

Sex trafficked at age 20, had a pimp.

Andrea Ran Over Baby Daddy

Ran him over 3 times with Kia Soul while 9 months pregnant. Posted him on Backpage with gay ads.

Bri Satanist DJ Throuple

Story from vid 9 context - Bri was on this episode too.

Red Pill Ideology Critique

Shara argues red pill creates fear-mongering about fertility and aging.

Trivia Failures

Valerie: 7 states in USA. Jenny thinks capital of France is Italy.

Transcript

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Jocelyn>> Okay. Then when I went to UT, I did one year there, took a gap year and dropped out and then went back and finished the two years like at U of >> But I'm looking for something. I mean, when you get your bachelor's degree in

Brian Atlaspsychology, that means you've taken >> some advanced classes >> in psychology you've taken. I mean, that's your major, right? >> So, I'm assuming there's some psych

Brian Atlaspsych principles, psychology principles given you have a degree from a >> a good read people's body language or >> I don't even know if that would be taught in psychology necessarily,

Brian Atlas>> but what is I mean I'm assuming you had to take tests and write essays. So like when you what can you relate to us in terms of what you learned

Jocelyn>> like tell us something about him tell us something about >> I don't know how would that be relevant but okay I mean >> vague as an individual it's not vague like >> like you're like your biggest takeaway from college I'm like

Brian Atlas>> well no from from your specific major so the the subject would be psychology which was your major I would assume if you've majored in psychology you would be able to relay to us. I'm not asking

Brian Atlasfor you to like give me give me everything that you learned in the 2, three, four years that you were in college. Give me like one takeaway from your specific discipline. >> One takeaway,

Jocelyn>> everybody got something mentally. So >> you don't need college for that. The strippers know about that. But you are you can you can like analyze it and understand and like kind of more label

Jocelynit a specific way like scientifically >> and honestly I got the degree but it's not something I even use anymore if unless you apply it into acting now which is

Jocelynkind of helps but it's not I'm not going to become like a therapist or a psychiatrist. Yeah. I kind of think now I do think that there are definitely certain

Brian Atlasdisciplines in the universities >> that are legitimate >> and you know you look at the uh some of the harder sciences the not harder >> this is a soft science >> psychology is a soft science the hard

Brian Atlassciences you look at math science technology biology physics etc shout out Nathan uh you're you're taking a program

Brian Atlaslike that you're taking biology um >> you know that's that's okay. What is that leading to? Okay, typically if you're doing biology, you're going to become a

Brian Atlas>> a doctor. You're going to go into medicine. Um, and that has a certain >> I guess well, it's not just a certain, it has a clear-cut value. But with these soft sciences, you got dance,

Brian Atlas>> people majoring in dance, people majoring, which is a step below psychology, I would say. Um, you know, people uh [ __ ] what is it? Art, history, all this [ __ ] It's like there I don't know. There's books, I guess,

Brian Atlasbut part of me thinks college and university is a bit of an adult daycare for a lot of people. Um, and it seems like a lot of people don't actually learn anything. And like, like you said, you have this degree.

Jocelyn>> Mhm. >> Uh, it sounds like it's good though. You don't have any >> I have no regrets. I'm first generation. I did it for my family. I finished it. >> It's like you you don't have any loans, so I guess that's good. A lot of people

Brian Atlasgraduate with like crippling student loan debt and they're like, "Okay, I'm not even then they go into career field if if even >> and then they just aren't even applying

Brian Atlasthe things that they learned uh really in the in terms of their career. Mhm. >> So I think there's a component I I of university and college that there there

Brian Atlasis an important component where like for some career fields you absolutely have to go and it's unquestionable but a lot of I don't know a lot of it just seems like kind of a scam. >> I agree. >> It's like people don't [ __ ] like

Jocelyn>> I don't I don't think it's a scam. I think it's I think people going to school for the wrong reason. Yes. You know what I mean? >> If you know what you want to be like you want to be a doctor, you got to go to school for that. I went into it with,

Jocelynokay, I'm first generation. I genuinely like this topic. I love reading about it. I'm going to finish it. But later in life, it did not mean like I was going to go into a career with it. But that

Jocelyndoesn't mean I it didn't help me build my foundation of what I do now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I know. It just seems like a little >> Just don't go into student debt if you don't really know what you want to do. >> Yeah. Period.

Brian Atlas>> But like look, I'll be charitable. You graduated four or five years ago. uh people are not going to have full recall of things from >> even shorter periods of time, one year, two year, three years ago. But like for

Brian Atlasexample, >> is anybody currently in college here? >> Nope. >> Currently taking classes. What are you studying again? >> I'm in prerex for nursing. >> Okay. What are you What's the Are you currently in the class right now?

Stella>> Um yeah, I'm taking online courses, but I'm not >> What are the classes? >> Psychology, too. And then that's it for this term, but I'm going to jump into

Stella>> hard. Have you taken a test yet in psych psychology? Have you written an essay or anything? >> I did it. It's very different teacher to teacher. I will say some of the classes were so pointless that I couldn't

Stellabelieve it. Y >> uh I was wasting all my time unfortunately. Uh there are some requirements for nursing that just you have to get through and then some are very helpful like anatomy and

Brian Atlasphysiology. >> Um biology. Yeah, but like psychology, you're currently taking it. I guess I would ask you, tell me something you've learned in psychology. >> Oh gosh,

Stellathat's a great question. It's so much small stuff. Um, body language is a huge one. You really like learn how to read people being

Brian Atlasnervous and how they carry themselves and when they're showing insecurities. But there so you're taking uh is it what's the title of the class? Intro to

Stellapsych or psych 101? What is it? >> Uh it's psych 2. I've got through psych one. >> Okay. Psych 2. So they're giving you body language breakdowns. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So tell me something about reading body language from not just your own observation, but that you've been taught. >> I'm going to out myself. Obviously fidgeting is an easy one. But did you

Stellaknow that before the class? >> I'd say so, but it can be like such small movements and then um Bro, >> what did they [ __ ] teaching in college? >> That's what I'm saying. No, I agree. I agree. I feel like >> Oh my god, they're nervous.

Stella>> I'm not arguing with you, but >> scam when it comes to learn that on a Netflix. >> You're not going to let anyone into a hospital to, you know, help with that. And you're not going to let anyone be a

Stelladoctor. But oh my gosh. Yeah. Uh, business degrees insane. Why would you ever get a business degree? My sister did that first thing. Uh went to college, sorority girl. And I I think it

Brian Atlaswas the most pointless thing ever. >> Yeah. I don't know. I if if I was the if I was dictator, here's what I'd do. >> Okay. >> Here's what I'd do. >> All right.

Brian Atlas>> I'd probably uh I'd keep all the hard sciences. And in fact, it would be free. College would be free. >> Wow. Okay. >> Uh but only if you're studying a hard science. >> Wow. I'm either completely getting rid of all

Brian Atlasthe the soft science disciplines completely gone or >> I keep them, but there's absolutely zero government subsidy. So, they need to be able to self-fund either through

Brian Atlasstudents who are paying for it and you can't um we're going to rework how you can get student loans because not everybody should go to college, but completely dis either completely get rid

Brian Atlasof soft sciences completely gone. Uh, look, maybe private institutions can teach that [ __ ] and if there's demand for it, so be it. But public systems, absolutely, no soft sciences, none of

Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] You want to you want the public uh tax taxpayers to subsidize your education or even fully pay for it under my perfect utopian uh rule. You're going to be studying math,

Brian Atlasphysics, engineering, something like that. Something that will actually contribute to the to the benefit of society. No, we need it. >> Interesting. I >> We We need it. Why do we need >> We need soft We need soft sciences because then we won't have any

Stellaempathetic people. We're just going to have all these robots that know math and physics and make everything all like >> No, we need people. We need to find people in hard classes contributing to hard roles in society because there's

Lonnienot enough of them. There's not enough people brave enough to go into debt for >> but also like we need artists for sure. There has to be a balance, you know? >> You need artists and like you need philosophers, healers.

Lonnie>> Yes, you do. You need those people who are emotionally intelligent, not not necessarily like logic people. You need logic people and you also need like >> bread and circus. >> So, okay, >> bro, you're right. >> So,

Brian Atlas>> I agree. >> I do think that there is a benefit to, you know, the arts and entertainment, but not at the expense of the taxpayer. So people can pursue these in their

Brian Atlasprivate capacity and in in a private capacity, but the taxpayer should not be subsidizing uh dance classes. They shouldn't be subsidizing any of that [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> But what if those make people happy? >> So >> yeah, it's medicine. >> I reject this idea that uh that somehow college if you're in the soft sciences

Brian Atlasthat this teaches you to be empathetic. I completely reject this. For example, uh people who are doctors, they typically study biology. Are you saying that because they're studying a hard science, they're lacking in empathy? I actually think doctors tend to be quite

Brian Atlasempathetic. But um well, yeah, sure, not all of them, but um this idea that it's like black and white. Oh, well, if you study, if you're in the hard sciences, you're completely devoid of empathy, I

Brian Atlasthink that that's kind of ridiculous. Now, maybe there are some liberal liberal arts like philosophy that could be interesting in the sense that we still need people who know like how to

Brian Atlasthink and logic and this this sort of thing. But, um, overwhelmingly, I don't know. I think a lot of it's just [ __ ] We're subsidizing way too much nonsense. And, uh, yeah,

Stella>> I think if you're going into like the arts and theater and whatever, I think you already have a really empathetic mindset. I don't think it's changing you. I think it's just and I do agree those classes should exist but I don't

Stellathink they should be as funded as um things like science and nursing and you know law and like the harder to go into harder to stay in uh especially financially. There's so many smart

Lonniepeople out there who just can't afford to go to college and they have so much potential. >> I don't know. I think this [ __ ] just goes back to the dawn of time low key. Um the dawn of time like what you're talking about is you're you're basically

Lonniesaying that like okay in your perfect society there would only be funding for like STEM pretty much and then >> [ __ ] all the artists and the people who want to pursue music they got to pay for

Lonniethat [ __ ] on their own, right? But what what I think is I think that the reason why the artists exist and that there is a job for them is because we made a

Lonniecapitalist society where the people who work in STEM and they, you know, they use their logic all the time. That's like literally my job. You I see guys all the time like businessmen or whatever who they're constantly thinking

Lonniewith I don't know if it's a left or right side of the brain, whatever. They they want they're I'm literally like a therapist to them. They come to me because they don't have >> at the strip club. >> Yeah. They don't have anybody in their life who is just like artistic and expressive and they want to see like

Brian Atlassomething expressive and more like meaning like emotional cuz they don't experience that and so it really just like >> so so when you're giving a lap dance are you talking about like philosophy you're

Lonnieyou're talking about Kant and Shenhower >> I mean honestly guys go in there for all types of stuff like yeah sometimes a dude will literally pay me out and then he'll just want me to talk to him the whole night >> right but do you so in order to get a

Brian Atlasjob at a strip club. Do you need a college degree? >> No. >> Okay. So, and you're you're effective at your job? >> I would say so. >> So, I don't understand the argument here. >> You're saying society needs these people that fit this.

Brian Atlas>> Well, because what society do we live in? We live in a capitalist society where you have to make money to >> Okay, but get by. >> But your argument is, well, I provide the service, but you provide the service absent having the college education. And

Brian Atlasyou say you provide it well. So, I don't understand. My argument has to do with these uh disciplines in universities are kind of to some degree like uh non-essential. They're kind of

Lonnieworthless. If I if I had a degree or if I had an education where I could actually like afford to go do dance or theater or whatever, I would have a better job where I wouldn't have to put myself out

Lonnielike that and put myself in danger like precarious situations with men be like because I would have paid for college and then I would be able to work somewhere more like than a strip club. Like >> I mean if you took if you were a dance major

Esther>> I want to add something to that. Go ahead. Because okay so you know medicine heals you. Yes. >> And music can also heal you. Like, have you ever been in a horrible time and you turn on Eminem and you're like, "Yeah, I'm feeling this wavelength." And now

Estherlike now you're feeling a little bit better now that you listen to that. Just cuz it's not a physical like medicine that you're taking doesn't mean it doesn't help you. >> I think that's a strong comparison cuz yes, continue. >> Well, I just want to

Brian Atlascontinue. Well, I mean, she was asking me a question, so I'm going to respond. But, um, so, look, I I'm not entirely downplaying the pros or benefits of some

Brian Atlasof the arts, right? So, of course, I think, uh, music for a lot of people, it's something that is very important to them for various reasons. It could be culturally important. It could be something that soos them. It can be

Brian Atlassomething that entertains them. I I'm not completely dismiss I'm not The way I would structure society is not zero entertainment. you're just going to be a good machine worker cog in the system. I'm not saying that. But what I'm

Brian Atlastalking about specifically is what the taxpayer should be subsidizing. And so I'm not dismissing the value that entertainment provides. I as an

Brian Atlasentertainer uh I'm sort of to some degree invested in in that. But entertainment absolutely whether it's music, whether it's film, whether it's

Brian AtlasTV, whether it's podcasting, it provides it provides value. Um I think people can't be 100% productive like okay you

Brian Atlaswake up you work and then you work until you go to sleep and then you sleep and then you repeat. No people need some degree uh things that soothe them. And that can be man that it doesn't even have to be entertaining. Some people

Brian Atlasthey go for a walk they go to the beach they do a sport they play video games whatever. Well video games would be entertaining. Um people entertainment does serve value in society and that's

Brian Atlaswhy oftentimes it is very well can be at least very well compensated. Um but what I'm saying is the taxpayer should not be subsidizing. >> But why not? >> What do you mean >> if it's if it's that important? It's not

Brian Atlaswhy not >> but hold on. So I I don't understand that things. Okay. Um getting [ __ ] is very important. Uh should the taxpayer

Lonniesubsidize me getting [ __ ] I don't think those are comp no tax. There's bigger fish to fry than like the [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> How about Hold on. Your position I'm testing out your logic. Your logic is if it's important, taxpayers should subsidize it. Not all things that are important should be subsidized by the taxpayer.

Esther>> I don't think it should be 100%. But I'm saying a lot of money goes into training for that or it's going to be bad and trash if you know like it's not going to be quality. >> Most mo hold on. Some of the best

Brian Atlasmusicians uh it's not they didn't come out of the university systems. They >> No, for sure. I mean, some did. Some did. Some were classically trained or they're trained in in music or whatever.

Brian AtlasThey they took band in high school, whatever it is. Um, and I'm not even I mean, even in high school, there could be some adjustments to the curriculum they teach. I It's probably not even all

Brian Atlasthat I don't know if it's expensive to have like a band class in high school. I'm probably fine with that. Theater. Do I just get rid of [ __ ] theater and B? I don't know. The [ __ ] theater

Valeriekids are kind of annoying. >> What about all the actors? The future actors that make all your favorite movies. >> AI, it's [ __ ] over. Honestly, within

Brian Atlasthree years, it's [ __ ] over. AI, everybody's gonna be gigafucked with with AI, I think. I mean, some of the [ __ ] there was recently, I saw this

Brian Atlasviral clip on uh on X of it was Brad Pitt fighting Tom Cruz, and it was AI generated, >> riveting. >> It looked so [ __ ] real, I'm telling you. Like,

Stella>> I hate it. >> I actually think uh a lot of people are going to be out of the job, to be honest. I'm scared my job. Brian, are you kidding? >> A lot of jobs have seen the OS models. >> Oh, yeah. You guys are coaches. >> I'm so scared. Um I'm I had someone try

Stellato sign away my face. They were like, "Can we sign you to AI?" No. What the hell? I get nervous because I've had customers use my face in AI. They've come up to me and being like, "Look at this. Don't use my face." Well, I think a lot of disciplines I mean I I don't

Brian Atlasknow >> I mean this is like sort of I don't know if even an existential threat but I do think that there's going to be massive societal upheaval due to AI because what kind of economic system are you going to

Brian Atlasbe able to have where basically people don't have a job because well AI just doesn't matter >> so I mean >> who knows what societyy's going to look

Brian Atlaslike 5 10 15 20 30 40 years from now it's hard to Okay. Um, I think, you know, maybe I'm Who know? I mean, the entertainment industry maybe has another

Brian Atlasdecade, maybe. I don't [ __ ] know, though. Who knows? >> You think it's going to be like an apocalypse? Cuz didn't chat GPT like reboot itself or something? >> You think we're cooked? >> I'm not sure about that. >> But I do think I don't know about like

Brian AtlasAI being like an actual threat in the sense of the AI would be hostile towards humans, >> but I do think we're going to see massive job replacement. That's undeniable >> in some areas. Yes. I I would hope that

Stellawe don't go the route of letting AI be an actor. Imagine how boring movies are going to get. >> I mean, actor starting. They're taking out people in a call center and replacing. >> That's a completely different form of

Valerieart. I think we'll adapt to AI, but it's not going to completely erase. >> Right now, they're actually taking away artists, too. Their platform,

Valerie>> the AI R&B artists out here signed to an actual record label. It's like, how are you going to go to her concerts when she's AI? >> Literally. >> But sometimes like like Avichi like

Millie Slaughtergoing to like a EDM concert and like Avichi's dead, but I we can literally go to an EDM concert and watch him like >> on the screen. >> On the screen, you know, or no, not even

Millie Slaughterscreen like hologram. It's hologram like stuff like that. And you can see a Tupac hologram. Like that's amazing to me. So I guess AI can be beneficial to the entertainment industry cuz like I'm But still like let a new artist, you

Valerieknow, come. >> But like someone like an R&B artist though, it has it takes more like soul and like more heart. >> That's true. You can't you can't say AI. >> How can't AI saying like as far as performance?

Brian Atlas>> Well, I'll say this. Uh within a year, actually probably already exists. There's going to be uh AI music that's definitely better than Bad Bad Bunny. That's for sure. Oh, the soul of Bad

Brian AtlasBunny. Oh my god, the soul. >> You're going to get a lot of Bad Bunny. girlfriend. I got a lot of girlfriends. VIP VIP dick [ __ ] You would never take away love.

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] dog [ __ ] music. Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] You know what? I wonder when the Beatles I'm curious like when the Beatles there probably were like the silent generation or I don't know what

Brian Atlas[ __ ] gen it was. Uh when the Beatles came out when I don't know what or some Michael I wonder if people were hating on MJ. >> Duh. They all hit it. >> The music was so better. Probably.

Brian Atlas>> Did you like Kendrick? >> But imagine how spoiled people were in like the 80s, '7s, ' 80s, '9s, 2000s when they're like, "Man, the music sucks

Brian Atlasnow." They had no idea what was coming. No [ __ ] idea. No [ __ ] idea. Let me tell you, it's crazy. Holy [ __ ] >> Like, people didn't like Kendrick, but then >> I mean, I don't know. I don't think you're going to I don't think you're

Andreagoing to see a AI Super Bowl. >> It was like before Michael Jackson. >> Into the mic, please. Into the mic, please. >> Oh, sorry. I said before there was Michael Jackson, there was Jackson 5. I don't think he had any haters. >> No, he did. He was black. >> Everyone has haters.

Andrea>> Everyone has haters. Like, you're not doing it right if you don't have trash. I mean, of course, they hated him because he was black, but not cuz his music was trash. >> But that but they made it about the music because he was black. >> Yeah, but that would be I feel like

Brian Atlasthat's something separate. I don't know if their criticisms were about the quality of his music. That would just be racism. Like that would just be something else. >> I mean, >> but I think that uh >> people try to be raced.

Stella>> I don't know. I think uh >> I don't know. Michael Jackson's another even I don't know. >> I've heard a lot. >> Well, like what's one modern artist that you like now? I haven't heard you name one. So,

Stella>> Taylor literally like 2010s and like a plastic bag. >> Yeah. He's like Katy Perry. >> I think you just you're an old soul, Ryan. You just love the oldies.

Lonnie>> I feel like there's a lot of current music that I listen to that's pretty good. But it's obviously very different in comparison to like oldies and classics, but I do listen to a lot of like young artists and people who make stuff on their own and it's really good. >> Yeah. >> But it's just different.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Um going into a different topic. Okay. You were late. What was the deal there? Tell us why you were late. >> Um Well, sorry Brian, for being late.

Shara>> Yeah. No, really. I am. >> Um I I was actually surprised that it was it um me being late had such an effect um because

SharaI didn't think that you were uh once I let you guys know that I was going to be late that you would let me be on the show. So that's why I decided to notify you and when you decided to take me on, I was grateful and I tried to get out as

Sharasoon as possible from work. So, I'm sorry for holding everything up, >> but like it's a Sunday. Don't you Aren't you like self-employed? >> Um, I would like to be, but right now

Brian AtlasI'm working um at a resort as an aesthetician. So, >> Oh, okay. >> So, there was like a last minute What? What's an esthetician? You do makeup or you do nails or >> it's like facials?

Shara>> Facials. >> You You were late to the whatever podcast cuz you got a facial. >> She was doing Thanksgiving patient gave I had a last minute and it was a mom and a daughter and they were celebrating and I was like okay I'm going to do this

Sharareally fast and I actually >> Bro, what I was quick but I'm really I could you could turn you could have turned them down >> you could have turned them down. >> You're right but as a provider it is

Brian Atlashard to turn people down. I'm sure it's hard for you guys to turn laps. >> I you know what I think is rude right now. No, I've been saying no to a lot of [ __ ] lately and I'm trying I've been saying no a lot.

Brian Atlas>> Just one more. >> But I mean I don't understand that it's like you when when did we book you by the way. It was like >> you did a month ago. You're right. And I'm just >> You've been on schedule for a month. >> So it's like how you going to how

Shara>> there's no excuse. I was just you know what this is kind of a learning experience. You know I >> And you're 38. >> Yes, >> bro. >> Yeah. Yeah. Man, how do you look? I look, >> hey, you're here now, but

Brian Atlas>> I feel like if you've made a commitment to be somewhere at a certain time >> Mhm. >> like look, someone's 5 10 15 minutes late. >> That's totally acceptable. Yes. >> You know, but like an hour late,

Shara>> that's time production. It's what people time. >> POC time. >> Yeah. So, it was Mexican. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's uh

Shara>> I'm just teasing. It was It wasn't cool. And I'm surprised that you took me to be honest with you, but what I was >> but like I don't understand. So it's like you could have it wasn't like an emergency. Do we we have that clear? >> Yes. Yes. >> So it was like you were at work and you

Brian Atlaswere otherwise planning to leave work earlier and you were scheduled to leave work earlier and you were aware of the time you were supposed to be here. >> I was. >> But you decided to

Shara>> 20 lashings. >> You know what? I'm so angry about this. >> He's about to throw this. He's about his helmet on right now. >> I I did not I I thought you were going to say too bad.

Shara>> Oh, no. No. Oh, so this is even more. So, you were contemplating just not even coming. >> No. If Well, >> we almost got stood up, guys. >> No, I I was under the impression that you were going to tell me not to come

Sharaand then I was going to be like, "Oh, okay. That makes sense." I mean, it's a podcast that millions of people watch, so I wasn't expecting that my presence was going to be missed, but I'm flattered. Thank you.

Shara>> Yeah. Thank you for accepting me on late. >> No, there's no excuse. There's really no excuse. I I don't I just wanted to give a facial to a sweet girl.

SPEAKER_03>> Wait, why does that sound? >> Yeah, that's not really bad. >> What is Get your mind out of the >> I know. He's trying to give a facial to a give facial to a speaker.

Brian Atlas>> No, no, no. I didn't mean it like that at all. I'm >> just saying you're like your Yeah. >> Well, right. But I mean, it's like >> it's like >> you're right. You're right. >> You have somewhere to be. >> You have somewhere to be.

Brian Atlas>> You can deny them service. It wasn't an there wasn't an emergency. >> Um >> so it just that's my confusion. It's like also it's like you're 38. Like

Brian Atlasdon't you have at at this age I'm 36. At this age we have a sense of >> okay I've made a commitment. >> That age [ __ ] don't even matter bro. It's like you meet some people and it's

Brian Atlasjust like >> Yeah. But no, I think there is a degree of as you're older, especially if you're from our generation, we're both millennials. I I >> there there's a people today are very

Brian Atlasflaky and even people our age are very flaky. >> But I at least for me, I grew up in a time man I [ __ ] sound like a >> I hate that word. What? >> No. If I tell somebody I'mma be somewhere

Brian Atlas>> back in my day, >> if I tell somebody I'mma be somewhere, and I don't know if this has just gone out the [ __ ] window. >> No, I'm like that. >> I'mma be there. I'mma be there. And look, sometimes you're a little late.

SharaSometimes things happen, but >> I don't know. Then now we're late. It's pretty [ __ ] crazy, not going to lie. >> Well, yes. Yes, you're right. But thank you. I appreciate it for your flexibility. >> All right. >> Oh, really? Really? I'm grateful. Thank

Andreayou. He said, "How dare you be late to my school?" >> I know. I thought too late. >> Extra accepted. >> All right. I mean, I'm sure like you

Brian Atlas>> you deal with cuz you you do you're an aesthetician, right? So you have bookings. >> So like >> do you ever have people who like no show on you who >> Oh yeah. >> who are late and it just [ __ ] your [ __ ]

Brian Atlasup. Like [ __ ] up your >> uh I don't know if you take do you take a deposit? >> I do. you take a deposit. >> Yeah. As somebody who also like you almost feel like you should have some empathy here in the sense that >> I do.

Brian Atlas>> You as somebody who works in an industry where you schedule people in to arrive at a time and if they don't >> I it has an impact. That's why you ask for a deposit.

Brian Atlas>> Um I almost feel like I need to post >> you got to almost pay me a little bit. I feel like you got to pay me a little money. I don't know if you got some cash in your purse. Maybe you know what would be fair? Here's what's fair. Let's

Brian Atlasstrike a deal. Let's strike a deal. I am a forgiving man. I will completely I'm very forgiving. I will forgive your trespass against me, dear.

Brian Atlas>> I will forgive your your vile and obscene and egregious trespass against me and the whatever podcast. >> I think you ought to the the payment

Brian Atlasthat you received for the facial ought to be transferred to me. I think that's a fair remedy to our dispute. What do you think? >> No. What's the deposit?

Lonnie>> No, she's not going to ask. She can answer for herself. Go ahead. >> What's the deposit? You want a facial? >> No. Whatever they paid you, you should just give that to me. >> The facial. The You should take the facial. >> Asking for some [ __ ] right now.

Brian Atlas>> I got some good skin. >> Brian, is everything okay? Are you financially hurting? >> So, that would be fair recompense. Is that the right word? Recompense. Let me Google that [ __ ] >> now. Maybe you should just get a free facial. >> No, I don't want that [ __ ] Recompens

Andrea>> I could use it. >> I don't know. I was going to get very relaxing the pore size. >> You seem some You seem tense redness. >> Should do a little extraction, little redness on the face. The hydro.

Brian AtlasNo, no, no. I mean, you know, aging is natural. I'm not trying to insult you or anything. I'm just I've opted to not insult any of you on your looks, but uh since you guys roast me there since you guys have decided to

Stellago there. Do you have lip filler? >> I do. >> Yeah. [ __ ] >> You can't even tell. Oh, no. I actually I love my You [ __ ] ruined your lips. [ __ ]

Stella>> man. I'm sure that they believe that. Um what else do I have? Filler. >> Let me see your lips real quick, Ren. >> I don't know. >> See if you can tell. I'm I'm getting ready to kick some of you off the show right now. So,

Brian Atlas>> yeah. >> I'll be nicer, Brian. I promise. >> Please give me the boot. >> So, look, I'll match energy. Like, I'm not going to just insult you guys just out of the blue, but I didn't miss your insult. Didn't miss your insults. So,

Shara>> I wasn't trying to insult you. I I was just excited to work on you. That's all. If you want >> Yeah, I quite clearly nerded out. >> I quite clearly stated I'm not interested in receiving your facial >> services. But >> you would never you would never get like

Lonniea facial. >> The the deposit's 75 bucks. >> Like you would never get like a facial >> at like a spa or something. >> Probably not. >> What about like a massage? >> Yeah, >> you should use them. >> It feel It feels good. I feel like

Lonnieeverybody needs that in their life. Like a good facial massage. >> Circulation. Definitely. >> Yeah, exactly. >> I need them. So, >> for real.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um All right. Well, uh I guess we could do h I guess we could do a segment here related to the money situation. Uh we

Brian Atlashave some sex workers here. Who has cash on them? Just curious. Anybody have cash on them? >> You told us not to burn your purses. >> Yeah. >> I ain't got no money for you, honey. >> You trying to throw some ones?

Esther>> I have access. >> Wait, why are you asking if we have cash? I'm so confused. >> Oh gosh. Are you mad at me?

Brian Atlas>> All right, so we uh we do this segment where uh do we just skip it? Chat Chad, do we uh skip this? I don't know. I'll do it super quick. All right.

Brian AtlasOftentimes, women, whether you're sex worker or not, we do have some sex workers here at the table. Uh you know, Only Fans, stripping, etc. Uh, I like to do this thing where it's a bit

Brian Atlasof a role reversal. I'll do it super quick chat. Um, basically you guys have simps. Guys will just send you money just for existing. You're just women. They'll just give you money.

Lonnie>> Um, who here wants to do the ro roll ro reversal. So, you have to give me cash? >> Nothing. >> I don't I don't have any money on me.

Lonnie>> I would have loved to make a rain. >> Okay, cool. That's it for that segment. >> Well, well, for that to work, like you have to be like enamored by the person that you're giving up our egos a little bit. >> That's what we do.

Lonnie>> Yeah. Well, that's the point. People pay me for how I look and how I act or whatever. >> So, it's effortless and it seems like we're not doing anything to earn it. There's micro things. >> It's called a tribute payment or

Brian Atlaswhatever. >> If I had some dollars, I would throw them at you. >> Well, no. I don't want to be the money to be thrown at me, but you can hand it to me politely, but okay. Uh, so I guess

Brian Atlasthat's a no for that. No for that. No for that. Uh, no for that. Okay. All right. We're going to get jump into our first topic here. Uh, actually, you know what? There's Valentine's, but we need

Brian Atlasto get into Hold on. Let me see. Uh, okay. So, mo most of you here are single. Uh, except for two of you. complicated, engaged, single, single,

Brian Atlassingle, single, single, and then single. Here are you in the corner. Uh, what does being single actually mean? So, um, is there a guy in the picture for you? >> No, I've been on dates recently, >> but there's no guy. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> So, >> and you claim to be I wish I almost brought this up earlier. Uh, you claim to be a virgin. >> Yes. >> Right. Uh, and you do Only Fans. >> Yes. >> And you're a stripper adjacent.

Brian Atlas>> No. Oh, no. >> Stripper adjacent. So, the the barista last shift in a couple days, but sure. >> Right. Well, you shake your ass at what appears to be a strip club. >> I actually just make No, it's like a

Stellalittle coffee cart. No, it's like a little tiny It's so cute, guys. It's a pink coffee cart. >> It sounds like a Starbucks. Oh, Locos. >> Exactly. Like a Hooters Starbucks.

Brian Atlas>> You do have fans. Um >> Okay. And uh you're a virgin. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh, and you're waiting until marriage. >> Yes, I believe you. >> Thank you. She's very sweet.

Stella>> You're very sweet. >> Thank you. Um, yeah. I I don't even know. It's been a blur the last year because I actually used to be very against Only Fans one year ago. Um, and I've always had these morals and I've

Stellaalways had these not morals, sorry, I don't want to not that it's like a it's a personal preference. I've always had that personal preference, but a year ago I started >> to wait till marriage. >> Okay, go ahead. Um, and a year ago I

Stellastarted Bikini Coffee because it's cute, fun, innocent. I didn't have to do anything I wasn't uncomfortable with. And I'm just talking to people like normal conversations. And I found out

Stellahow much these women could make on OAF. And I saw opportunity to set myself up. And I don't think that's bad. I want to set myself up to open a business in the

Stellafuture. I want to set myself up to go to school. I am helping myself grow. And that doesn't change that I want to wait till marriage. >> Amen. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um,

Brian Atlas>> so I mean I'm I'm find Well, hold on. Let me actually pull up my notes on this. Um, you did date a guy though and you wrote you were sugar mommy. >> It felt like it. It It's hard when you

Stellastart making good money because it sets the dynamic off. Um, and that's why I mentioned I won't date a man now who makes less than me. I'm fine with equal.

StellaI don't care. Uh but I need a man with some motivation. Um because it was like my ex from high school and we started talking again and I have my own apartment and it's like he starts, you

Stellaknow, using that and he wants to stay over all the time because it's closer to his job and I like >> bum. >> I can afford so much and he was in debt and it's just such a weird dynamic. I I

Brian Atlascan't do it again. >> Okay. Uh I see. So you were being a sugar mommy for a guy who you were not sleeping with. >> Oh my god. Brother now. But so you're

Brian Atlaswaiting until marriage. You're claimed to be a virgin. Um what is the grounding for you wanting to wait until marriage? What's the reason? >> Are you religious? >> It didn't come from religion, but I am religious.

Stella>> How so? >> Uh I actually found Christianity on my own. And it was just before I started being a bikini barista, which is ironic and I actually get a lot of hate for this, but I prayed for a job and I

Brian Atlasprayed for financial stability and that's the job I got. God works in mysterious ways. >> That's the most [ __ ] [ __ ] I've [ __ ] heard, but okay. Um, >> God didn't exist.

Brian Atlas>> So, so um, you you prayed to God and God directed you into Only Fans sex work.

Stella>> Not Only Fans, but Bikini Barista. Only fans. I will admit I think that is relatively on maybe a sinning side, but everyone sins and we all get forgiven

Stellafor our sins, but I do it in the best way I can. If you look at my Instagram, I post in the best way I can. If you even go to my content, I'm not doing anything crazy. I'm not showing myself

Stellain sexual activities. >> So, you're post authentic content of me as a person, but um and if people want to support me, that's up to them. So, are you just to be clear, are you a virgin? >> Yes, I'm a virgin.

Stella>> Sorry. And are you a Christian? >> I am a Christian. Yes. >> What denomination? >> I'm honestly It's near to me. I got into it myself. >> She's non-denominational. She like >> Can you let her You don't need a quip every time she talks. Let her talk. Go

Stellaahead. >> And I may not know as much as some because I grew up in almost not partially anti-religious family. My dad didn't love religion. >> Is somebody humming over here? Sorry,

Stellait's a really >> Is somebody like humming? What the [ __ ] is that? >> It's me. I was going Sorry. >> Can you not do that, please? Sure. Go ahead. >> But yeah, so I honestly I'm I'm so proud

Stellaof myself because I've come so far and I found this on my own and I started going to church by myself and I started talking to people there and my favorite thing is meeting grandmas there and they're so sweet. >> Um, and just learning from people who

Stellalive their best life. Yes. Well, >> what's the denomination of the church you go to? Like which one? >> Do you go to multiple churches? >> No, I just go to one, but I'm moving so I need to find a new one.

Brian Atlas>> The one you've been going to, what denomination is it? >> Honestly, it's Christianity. And that's >> Is it a Baptist? Is it Is it Protestant?

Brian AtlasIs it Is it Catholic? Is it >> Is it Presbyterian? Is it Orthodox? What's the denomination of the church you go to? >> I believe it's Baptist.

StellaYou believe it's Baptist? Okay. >> Yes. It's all newer to me. I will admit there was a period where I couldn't go um because of my work schedule, but I'm doing my best. And >> Okay. >> I'm Jesus.

Brian Atlas>> Uh praise Jesus. Are you religious? >> Yeah. >> You're Christian? >> I am Christian. >> What denomination? >> I grew up Catholic, but now I'm non-denominational.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Um so the even before you found Christianity, you always wanted to wait until marriage. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um, okay. Just curious to for the women at the table, do you believe her that she's a virgin? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Does anybody >> I believe her? >> Yes. >> Everybody believes her? >> Yes.

Valerie>> Does No. Does somebody disbelieve her? >> I'll say maybe halfway. >> Maybe. >> Honestly, I get that a lot, especially with the job. Maybe she did a little something some, but not like all the way. >> I'm not even offended. I am in the sex industry. You're saying she did not.

StellaMaybe. Maybe a little something some oral sex. No, not always. >> What's the furthest you've gone? >> Um, I have given head once in my life, but it was so short. >> Just a little just a little They

Stellafinished too fast. >> Was it Was it the hobosexual? >> What? >> Was it the hobosexual? >> The bum. No. Saying I >> the guy who sugar mama for. >> Damn. >> Yeah, that was only once. And I felt

Stellavery weird about it because I've made it such a strong part of my personality. It's hard to >> feed in. It's hard to go and do those things because I've just made it such a big part of myself. >> Well, a lot of Only Fans girls lie about

Brian Atlastheir relationship status, you know, their history, sexual history, um because it's conducive to making money on Only Fans by lying about your status. Now, logically, it is possible that a

Brian Atlaswoman could be on Only Fans, could be a bikini barista, could um have tattoos, could have Do you have breast implants? >> Yeah. could have breast implants, could

Brian Atlashave lip filler, could have scars all over her body. It's logically possible. It's logically possible. However, I think it's highly

Stellauh it's not probable. And so, I think uh I think it's probably [ __ ] but of course, there's no way for >> that's okay to think that. And honestly, some I got worried joining the industry before I knew anything about it that I

Stellawouldn't make money because people would think I'm too innocent and they wouldn't think my content's good. And thankfully, I was wrong. And I actually like have been able to use it. So that's been

Stellagreat. Um because like even at the bikini stand like customers would want like crazy stories. I'm like, "Oh shoot, I don't know." Um and then they were like, "No, like I think it's cool." And I'm like, "Really? You think it's cool?"

Brian AtlasI noticed in your videos on Instagram there's a man who frequently films them who has hand tattoos. >> Yeah. Who's that? >> Mutual friend. >> Mutual friend. You live with him? >> No, that wasn't the one. >> Mutual friend. So you're you're you're

Brian Atlasfriends with a guy who has hand tattoos and he shoots some of your content. Uh that's not your boyfriend. >> No. >> Okay. Yeah. So the reality is to the

Brian Atlasviewers uh I guess breaking the fourth wall here uh Only Fans girls frequently lie about their status in various ways. It's conducive to their bottom line to

Brian Atlasbe single. Um it's helpful for them to put forth this appearance of uh non-involvement with other men sometimes

Brian Atlasto the degree of claiming they're virgins. I think it's dubious. Of course perhaps it could be true. I think it's very unlikely. Um but uh yeah. Uh you self harm?

Stella>> I used to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Any drug use? >> No. >> No drug use? >> No. >> Okay. What for what was the self harm about? >> Honestly, um just not good mental health

Stellain high school. And I look back at it and it seems very silly cuz I was so dramatic. Um and I forget I have them now until people mention them. until you mentioned them right now, completely

Stellaforgot that that was what was on my arm. Um, I don't really know what to say about it because I'm not emotional about it anymore. And I I just don't have a great story either. I did go to the ER

Stellaonce, so it was pretty crazy, but I'm okay. >> Just all these factors collectively, all these factors >> make it very difficult for me to believe that you're actually a virgin.

Stella>> And that's fine for you to believe. I, again, I work with sex workers. My friends have stripped and I don't take offense if people want to think I've had sex. That's fine. I know what I've done. >> Do you want to just like admit that you're not a virgin or?

Brian Atlas>> No, but I am. So, there's no point in admitting I'm not. >> So, would you be fine, for example, if I were to I don't know if you post an Instagram story, maybe there's people who know you who are watching. If I were to do like a call to action to the

Brian Atlasviewers who might know you and say, "Hey, has anybody cracked this girl? Has anybody has she had sex with anybody? Maybe an ex-boyfriend is watching. Maybe somebody who's watching knows a guy who's cracked you. And if I invited them

Brian Atlasto send me a DM, for example, you'd be fine with us exploring that. >> Yeah. >> Because it didn't happen. >> Exactly. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um, so I mean, there it is. Call

Brian Atlasto action. If anybody knows this chick >> and knows she's lying, um, there it is. So if anybody has the intel, feel free to share it. So, okay. Um,

Lonnie>> a [ __ ] pricey. >> Is anybody else a virgin here at the table? >> Nobody. >> I'm a born again. >> Maybe you

Brian Atlasborn again virgin. >> Yeah, I mean there's no uh >> born again virgin. That's not a real thing, but um >> I haven't had sex in a minute.

Brian Atlas>> That doesn't make you a virgin, but nice try there. a girl. You might think >> when you feel it, you might think so. >> Um, but so, okay, you you do consider yourself a Christian like you're going

Stellato church. >> Yes. But this next like I'm moving and I'm going fully online and I really want to devote myself to learning more. >> So, I mean, your current career is

Stellacompletely incompatible with Christianity. I actually want to bring up one thing that um I remind myself in chapter 7 verse 36 to 50 there's the

Stellastory a prostitute comes forward and everyone is judging her and then Jesus says hey don't judge her you all have sinned >> that isn't that isn't a Christian

Brian Atlasgranting for allow Christian hold on hold on it's not a Christian granting or allowance for women to be sex workers >> let me continue >> but you're you're about make a

Stellajustification here. >> No, no, no. Let me continue. Let me talk. >> Go ahead. >> And so he forgives her sins and says that if your love and your faith is

Stellastronger and so I do my best. I donate money. I volunteer. I show love and I show faith and that is the best I can do because I'm setting myself up for future. This world is hard. It's hard to make good money. I don't

Stella>> do porn. I don't strip. I don't do toy play because that doesn't align for me. >> Tell us as described on your only fans what you do do. >> It's mild. I show myself and people can

Brian Atlasadmire me. >> Uh well I I have in front of me what you list your I don't know how to best describe this. Your services. So you do girl girl content.

Stella>> So you have sex with women. >> Not sex. I've kissed girls. >> Okay. Is that compatible with Christianity? I think so. Again, I come from Portland. >> Completely incompatible with Christianity.

Stella>> It depends which church. >> Oh, well, hold on. Uh, even removing Well, okay. Those are like >> But yes, I think sexual is a church. >> But >> you have something for this.

Brian Atlas>> You know what else is a sin is rage baiting. And >> how am I rage baiting? >> Judging is not >> anyone who watches this show. I love it. But it is rage. >> So, hold on. I'm doing an internal critique of your position. You claim to

Brian Atlasbe a Christian. I'm agnostic. I have pro-Christian sentiment in the sense that I think Christianity is good, but I'm agnostic. So >> I respect it. >> I don't have to actually abide by your world view view or like Christian

Brian Atlasethics. Okay? >> But if if somebody claims, for example, >> I eat meat. >> I'm not a vegan. But if somebody tells me they're vegan, and by the way, I don't have issue with other people eating meat. But if somebody tells me

Brian Atlasthey're vegan and I see them eating a hot dog or a hamburger, I'm going to be like, why the [ __ ] are you doing that? But I don't have an issue with people eating meat. But when you self ID under

Brian Atlasa category of >> this category means I behave or act in a certain way or I believe these things, >> you're not a vegan if you eat meat. >> Yep. >> So don't call yourself a vegan. If

Valerieyou're doing sex work and you're a Christian, you're not really a Christian. No, that's not how that works at all. >> There's so many things that go online. You can't believe in God, though. You can't believe in God, even though you got to do other things to get to pave

Brian Atlasyour way. >> We live in an America. There's plenty of other jobs you can do. Okay? So, you can believe in God, but you're in active defiance of God's word. >> Anyone who's lied has sinned. So, why is it so bad that I'm setting myself up

Stellawith a good future and I live by good morals and I treat people with love and I I do the best I can. >> Be relevant. How's that relevant? It is relevant because I live and I try to be a good person and a lot of people don't even do that.

Lonnie>> That's good. >> That's good. But that's not the granting. That's not giving you the allowance to then be a participant. >> You know what the definition of a Christian is? >> A Christian is a person who admits their

Lonniesins and accepts that Jesus Christ died on the cross and paid and paid the ultimate price for our sins so that we could have eternal life. >> Yeah. You're Christian in name only then. No, I think I think you there's a

Jocelyndifference between having a relationship with God and also being religious just because like you know those are two separate things, but they can go underneath the same label. >> It's like a nun and you,

Valerie>> right? Like you're you and that's a nun. >> She believes in probably way more things than you do within >> as a Christian >> Christianity or she follows certain traditions.

Andrea>> Oh, there makes what makes somebody a what makes somebody a Christian? is believing that Jesus Christ does >> is the son of God and then he came and died for our sins. Now everybody sins

Andreaevery day whether it's her and sex work or whether if I go and go lie to somebody everybody sins every day. >> So you know when the story that she brought up um Jesus also mentioned you

Andreaknow like he brought he told everybody in the crowd whoever has not committed a sin pick up a rock and throw it. >> Nobody can do that. So >> yeah you have you have your own journey. I'm glad you found Christ and he's going

Stellato get you out of your situation at the right timing. >> Thank you. Exactly. I'm building myself up so that I can do something else comfortably and I can live my best life now. I wouldn't have been able to fly down on a last note. You know, I paid over $1,000 to be here.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. That >> but I wouldn't have been able to do that without my job. I wouldn't have a social media following without my job. >> Yeah, but Oh my god. Okay, let me ask you this. Um

Brian Atlasuh to and now who here does either Only Fans or dancing or sex work of some kind? You you you >> I have danced when I was 21. >> You do Only Fans or No, but you're a stripper.

Brian Atlas>> Nope. >> Or wait. >> Okay. Then I got confused then. Uh are you Christian or No. >> No. I'm spiritual. >> Okay. But you're Christian. >> Indeed. >> Uid is Christian. Uid is Christian. The

Brian Atlasquestion for both of you is, uh, do you think God wants you to be doing sex work? >> Oh, I've been waiting for this all day. Hell no, he doesn't. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, God does not want you to be doing sex work. So, you're in defiance of God. >> I wouldn't say defiance. I think >> you are in defiance. >> The way >> is is God's word.

Stella>> Oh, brother. >> Uh, the final authority. But God didn't tell me to work at Jiffy Lube either. So I don't I got it was such a strong sign from the

Stellaworld that said you are hurting other people. This job is hurting other people and it's making the world a terrible place. I quit. I would quit. >> But it I don't get that. I used the money to help people. >> Before before I have you come in uh so

Brian Atlasjust just to be clear the answer to the question is do you think God wants you to be doing Only Fans or sex work or stripping? I my answer is no. >> No. What about for you? >> No. >> Okay. Do what do you think Satan wants?

Lonnie>> He wants that. And that's why >> he wants you to do what? >> Well, okay. Satan wants you to stray away from God. >> And what I think is a parallel in my

Lonnielife that I've read in the Bible is the book of Job. Actually, that man was a very blessed man who um followed the Lord closely. And Satan went to God and

Lonniehe a he asked him, "Hey, this guy, he's only following you because he look at his life is perfect." And so God said, "I'll allow you to test him." And he he allowed Satan to take everything away

Lonniefrom him, his family, his health, everything. And he still followed God. And and so what I think is I think a lot of um strippers or sex workers or whatever that are in this position and

Lonniecan call themselves a Christian. It's not necessarily a defiance of the Lord because I'm not in a I'm not privileged to where I could have any job and go to college and do what I want to do, but

LonnieI'm choosing to be a stripper and a sex worker. It's like this is the job that I can do with my circumstances. If I have nothing, if I'm homeless, if I have [ __ ] nothing, and this is the job that I could do, that's God allowing

LonnieSatan to test me to see, well, are you going to let her go in the strip club and think she's all that and spend all her money, or she's still going to follow Jesus Christ while she's in there and make it the [ __ ] out and then be blessed with something bigger. That's what it's about.

Esther>> I also have something to add. Would it be a sin if these girls, per say, were working a minimum wage job and getting sexualized at like Burger King? Cuz when I worked minimum wage, I actually got sexualized more than when I was a

Estherstripper for less pay. I'm not even Christian. >> Basically no sense to me how that could even be possible. But no, that would not be a sin. >> I have a question. >> So it would be okay if the guys were sexualizing them at like a Burger King,

Estherbut since they're sexualizing them at something that they would profit from, that makes it a sin. >> Your argument is completely incoherent, but um >> Well, I've experienced

Brian Atlaswhile getting paid. >> Okay. But so yes, women will be sexualized in all sorts of contexts, but that is a third. You could argue that the person doing it is being sinful. Uh but that wouldn't be a reflection on

Stellayou. >> Okay. No, I was just curious. >> Did you have premarital sex, Brian? >> I'm not a Christian. >> Okay. >> But yeah, >> why does it bother you so much that we do something with our religion when you aren't even religious? Like

Brian Atlas>> I don't see how that's at all relevant. >> It is because we're having a conversation. Well, so it's it's funny to me how I'm not even an I'm not even a Christian and I'm going harder for

Brian AtlasChristianity than actual Christians. I'm here actually defending Christianity cuz remember I have pro-Christian sentiment. I think Christian ethics is good for society. It's good for the individual.

Brian AtlasIt's good for culture. It's good for all of this. Christianity is the foundation and groundwork for modern civilization. It's a massive positive force in the world. However, uh and I have close

Brian Atlasfriends of mine who are Christian, who are serious Christians, who are true Christians. And I think that uh I I don't like to see people disrespecting it or tearing it down or speaking

Brian Atlasincorrectly about Christianity or misrepresenting what the Bible says or what God says. Uh I don't agree with that. But so yeah that and also it's just a even if you're not a Christian

Brian Atlasyou can have an understanding of uh scripture and the Bible and essentially if we're having a a conversation and

Stellalike again it goes back to the are are you a vegan but eat meat thing. So >> well let's consider myself a pescatarian here. Uh follow me along here. This last

Stellayear, I got really swept into the industry in a couple months because you learn all these things. It gets exciting. It's fast money. And I started to post more ass photos, per se. I started to post bikini photos at work.

StellaAnd then I had a voice in my head and I said, "This is wrong. This is not okay." And I took a step back and I bring clothes to work and I post in shorts when I'm at work or I I work on what I

Brian Atlaspost to make it more human and less sex workbased. All you're you still have all those photos. You didn't take down any photos. The photos on your Instagram. You have two different Instagrams.

Brian Atlas>> Nothing crazy. >> I mean, you're it's not becoming of a woman who's Christian. >> Well, that's your opinion, Brian. >> It's not just my opinion. It's true. Okay. So, I I'm going to have to Google. >> The same as a bathing suit. I've never

Brian Atlasshowed more than a bathing suit. Brian, >> you're in like lingerie on the >> I think I think you have a misconception about like what being a Christian means cuz >> No, I think you have a misconception and you're not following scripture.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's not about that like at all. Like sometimes in life like you're born into circumstances and you you can't do anything. >> So, who's forcing you to post provocative, immodest, revealing photos on your Instagram? Who's forcing you to

Lonniebe a stripper? Who's forcing you to be on Only Face? All I'm saying is sometimes I if you're born a woman who has nothing and you have no support and no help, that's the first job that's ever existed for a woman. The first job ever to exist for a woman is to be a

Brian Atlasprostitute. >> Yes, it is freaking true. That is like the caveman job. >> So just because Okay, so like rape has been happening for a really long time. Is that a justification for >> I'm not saying it's a justification,

Brian AtlasBrian. I'm saying like this is why these things happen and this is how you >> women have. So, okay, just to be clear, women who are not sex workers are all broke and destitute. >> No, I'm not saying that.

Brian Atlas>> Women who women who are not sex workers, they're just all broke and they're not a they're all homeless. Is that is that your position? >> No, you're you're like mis you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. >> Your argument is oh, what if you don't

Lonniehave another option? There's other jobs you can do. There there's jobs. You okay? You try to get a job, dude. Like, it's so hard to get a job these days. She literally said she had to pray. Like, she literally get a

Brian Atlasjob. It is hard to get a job. This is a [ __ ] hiring. Can I say something? >> I don't think the average woman is is like for like through pure financial necessity uh forced into this. You do

Lonnieit. >> So, you're saying my life is just like a a joke? Like the literal lived truth? Literal lived truth. Oh, that can't happen. I'm telling you right now. >> You're saying you had no other option besides being a stripper.

Stella>> Yes, that's for a lot of people. >> That's exactly what I'm saying for a lot of people to live comfortably. The money gap is very different. >> I don't think you should go into this industry desperate because it sets you up to put yourself in bad positions. It >> definitely does.

Stella>> I'm thankfully at a point where I'm just making cute little Instagram reels and that's my job and I love it. And I mean there is content, but my day-to-day is just Instagram and it's really cool. Yeah, I don't think you should go into

Millie Slaughterlike what what you guys are doing like desperate like you said cuz I had a friend that was living with me and I was working three jobs minimum wage to make ends meet. She was living with me and I just told her she needed to get an education or she needed to get a job and

Millie Slaughtershe didn't want to do either of those because she wanted to do Only Fans and she didn't want to, you know, and she wanted to do makeup on Only Fans and do like sex work on Only Fans. But there was literally a McDonald's hiring down the street and she didn't want to do

Millie Slaughterthat. She wanted to do Only Fans instead. It's like if that's not something that you feel is something that you want to do, just be real about it and just say like, look, I want to make my money the way I want to make my

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