Crazy Desiree ATTACKS Andrew Wilson & Brian?! FLASHES?! Unhinged RAGE QUIT?! | Whatever Debates #7

Date: 2024-08-02
Duration: 6h 11m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_08Desiree Noel(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Madison Vu(host)
SPEAKER_12Andrew Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

00:01:07
QuoteBrian introduces the show as 'special edition Whatever Debate' with Brian Atlas, Andrew Wilson, Madison Vu, and returning guest Desiree Noel.

Welcome to the uh special edition of a whatever debate podcast I'm your host Brian Atlas I'm joined tonight by Andrew Wilson the great Madison Vu and Desiree

00:05:05
QuoteDesiree accuses the show of promoting colonialism, white supremacy (energetic/ideological), and woman-hating. Claims she felt triggered — like walking through a portal back to age 13 at 'church indoctrination camp.'

basically colonialism white supremacy um woman hating just basically the mother wound I could really feel the mother wound unhealed from you guys

01:21:59
QuoteDesiree reads from her published book (page 57): 'My Method Processing Severe Trauma.' Method: assign positive meaning to traumatic events; place happy images in a 'thought nursery.' Andrew calls this 'cope.'

my method processing severe trauma... place a meaning on the event that feels good no matter how far you must reach

01:35:39
ControversyDesiree states that violence against Brian/Andrew would be justified as retaliation for making her feel emotionally unsafe. Explicitly says she 'could get away with it' legally.

it's called eye for an eye you rep you... I believe I could get away with it

01:36:00
OtherDesiree's first rage quit: stands up, walks around the table to approach Brian and Andrew, lifts dress near Andrew (flashes), then exits the studio saying she needs 'a minute.' Brian and Andrew remain seated and calm throughout.

yes so I wanted you to understand the height of how you guys affect me emotionally and spiritually... I gave you a taste of your own medicine

01:41:11
ControversyBrian references security camera footage of Desiree's physical approach/flash incident. Considers posting to Discord. Andrew describes not knowing if she was going to strike them.

we do have the footage... we do have it I don't know I'd have to think a little bit about posting it but if we did post it we'd put it on my uh Discord

01:46:47
QuoteDesiree discloses a recurring fantasy of Jesus sitting on his throne with her riding him face-to-face. Reframes it as desire for spiritual oneness/union with Christ Consciousness.

one of my reoccurring fantasies... was basically something... a fantasy of Jesus sitting on the throne and me essentially riding him face to face

01:58:57
QuoteMadison reads Desiree's 15-point email of return conditions including $300 booking fee, $199 for a closed-mouth kiss with Brian, $500 for a French kiss, $5k for a date, $100k for 'activities,' and 20% revenue share with co-branding rights.

number one you will sign the consent form... $300 payment is to be rendered as a booking fee... $199 for you and I to kiss closed mouth... $500 for you and I to french kiss... after 90 days of successful collaboration we rebrand the show and add my name

02:04:36
ControversyAfter Desiree's rage quit and glass breakage, Madison vacuums and sweeps the studio. Possible couch urination noted by Brian ('she peed on the couch or it was just a spill... wet spot on the couch'). Brian and Andrew provide comedic commentary. Brian and Andrew rate Maddie's vacuuming: 7.5 and 6 out of 10.

I don't know if she peed on the couch or it was just a spill... couch there's like a wet spot on the couch

02:07:48
ControversyDesiree returns to the show and demands an on-air apology from Brian and Andrew for misrepresenting her expertise in trauma healing. Claims people could have died if audiences believed she was 'just a mentally ill old [woman].'

you and Andrew will genuinely apologize to me on air before we start the conversation for not properly studying me and then grossly misrepresenting slander my expertise

03:06:00
ControversyDesiree reveals she has an FBI contact and intends to investigate the Whatever podcast for terrorism. Refuses to detail the claim on camera. Also threatens a class action lawsuit framed as necessary for her ongoing custody case.

you said that you have an FBI contact and they're going to investigate me for terrorism... it's not something that I am comfortable with talking on camera

04:17:57
QuoteDesiree discloses her father was a pedophile who groomed her for sex work from childhood, taking her to bars from an early age. This is framed as the origin of her trauma and subsequent journey through church and BDSM healing.

my dad being a pedophile and sex... my dad indoctrinating me that I was to be a sex worker that was the only way I was going to make it in life he would take me to bars from an early age

04:21:51
QuoteDesiree explains she uses conscious kink and BDSM as a trauma healing modality for childhood sexual abuse, arguing it is the only way to transmute the most extreme sexual traumas.

I had to get into Kink and BDSM so conscious Kink and BDSM meaning um bondage okay so that is actually a very powerful healing modality for these most intense extreme sexual traumas

05:17:48
ControversyBrian confronts Desiree about sending an unsolicited nude to the Whatever Instagram page on June 16th 2024. Desiree confirms she likely did ('I'm a hoe, I don't know who I send nudes to on what day'). Brian frames it as sexual misconduct without consent.

on June 16th did you send an unsolicited nude photograph to the whatever Instagram page... I'm a hoe I don't know who I send nudes to on what day

05:27:00
QuoteDesiree partially concedes: admits she was rude, conceited, and not listening. Admits to sending the nude and physical approach of Andrew as forms of 'sexual battery.' Says she likes Brian and Andrew and feels stimulated by debate with them.

I have been rude I have been conceited I have been not listening to you... I apparently sent you an unsolicited nude which is like a sexual assault I mean it is well and then I put my ass in your face again a sexual assault so I'm guilty you're right

05:45:24
QuoteDesiree agrees on-camera to not sue Whatever and to not bother Brian Atlas anymore. Provides statement looking into the camera: 'I am not going to sue whatever... I'm not going to bother Brian Atlas anymore.'

I am not going to sue whatever... and I'm not going to bother Brian Atlas anymore

Topics Discussed

00:01:07
Show Intro & Announcements

Brian's opening monologue: Streamlabs vs. YouTube donation cuts, TTS pricing, Twitch prime sub plugs, Discord/Patreon links, debateuniversity.com mention. Introduces guests: Andrew Wilson, Madison Vu, Desiree Noel. Notes this is a 'special edition' Whatever Debate episode.

00:04:04
Desiree's Criticisms of the Show

Desiree explains why she returned: to address her criticisms from the prior Dating Talk appearance. Accuses show of promoting colonialism, white supremacy (energetic/ideological, not racial), and woman-hating. Claims she felt like she walked through a portal back to 'church indoctrination camp.' Brian and Andrew press her to define 'white supremacy' — she reframes it as an ideology of hierarchical worthiness rather than racial categories.

00:10:00
White Supremacy & Ideology Debate

Extended debate on what Desiree means by 'white supremacy.' She argues it is an energetic ideology, not racial. Andrew challenges the use of loaded language. Discussion of horis (descriptor for a set of traits), whether ideologies can be inherently superior, and whether the term 'white supremacy' is being used rhetorically to attack the show. Andrew establishes his Eastern Orthodox Christian worldview. Desiree questions the purpose of debate if worldviews are diametrically opposed.

00:16:16
Andrew's Christian Worldview Explanation

Andrew begins explaining his Eastern Orthodox Christian worldview: trinitarian Christianity, natural law, tradition as successful experiments. Desiree keeps interrupting and questioning the point of debate when worldviews differ fundamentally. Discussion of what makes a debate valuable vs. just airing opposing views. Desiree asks if Andrew is trying to prove his ideology superior — he says he's trying to understand hers.

01:19:42
Desiree's Book & Trauma Healing Method

Desiree reads from her book (page 57): 'My Method Processing Severe Trauma.' Method involves: (1) assigning a positive meaning to traumatic events, (2) placing a 'happy image' in the 'thought nursery,' (3) breathing into better feelings. Andrew critiques the method as cope/reframing rather than genuine trauma resolution. Describes her trauma with friend Steve's death and how she developed the method. Claims she asked 'the infinite' (God) for answers. Discussion of what constitutes expertise.

01:32:01
Woman-Hating Definition Debate

Brian directly asks how the show is 'woman-hating.' Desiree says she feels unsafe in Brian and Andrew's presence; being a woman and feeling unsafe = woman-hating. Brian counters: if he felt unsafe around her would that make her a man-hater? She says she would validate his feelings but not the label. Andrew notes Desiree got up from her seat and entered their physical space — not the reverse. Desiree says it was retaliation for emotional disrespect.

01:36:00
Desiree's Physical Approach & First Rage Quit

Desiree stands up and walks around the table to approach Brian and Andrew physically. She places herself near Andrew and lifts her dress (flashes). Brian and Andrew remain seated throughout. Desiree frames it as giving them 'a taste of their own medicine' for emotional disrespect. Andrew: 'I would literally rather you punch me in the face.' Desiree says violence would be justified as retaliation for emotional harm; says she could 'get away with it' legally. Desiree exits to bathroom (~1:37-1:44). Andrew and Brian discuss the incident. Brian mentions security camera footage exists of the event.

01:42:36
Emotional Rape Accusation & Prior Show Critique

Desiree describes feeling 'emotionally raped' by the prior Whatever Dating Talk appearance. Claims she did not research the show format (panel show) before appearing. Brian pulls up her original DM requesting to be on the show. Desiree admits she did not watch any clips of the show beforehand — 'that's entirely on me.' Andrew draws parallel: if emotional discomfort is 'rape,' would him feeling unsafe around her make her a 'man-hater'? Extended argument about consent and what constitutes assault.

01:43:48
Final Departure & Post-Show Discussion

Desiree departs for the final time. Brian tries to get her to say goodbye on camera; she partially does. Brian mentions security camera footage of the physical approach incident and considers posting to Discord. Brian and Andrew discuss the incident: Brian was surprised his 'woman-hating' question precipitated the rage quit more than Andrew's provocations. Brian reads DMs received from Desiree: alternating between legal threats and flirtation/nude photos. Mentions she was 'sending nudes' and simultaneously threatening a lawsuit for 'emotional toll.' Show closes with plans to return the following day at 4pm.

01:46:47
Jesus Intimacy & Spirituality Discussion

Desiree reveals a recurring fantasy from her Christian period: riding Jesus face-to-face on his throne. Reframes it as a desire for oneness with the divine (Christ Consciousness). Describes her relationship with Jesus as intimate/spousal — 'he runs my life.' Andrew asks about the Eastern Orthodox framing. Discussion of butterflies/chemistry as heart vs. chemical reaction.

01:57:16
Desiree's Email Demands Read Aloud

Madison reads Desiree's 15-point email of demands for her return to the show: (1) mandatory reporter consent form; (2) on-air apology from Brian and Andrew; (3) meal by 5th hour; (3b) $300 non-refundable booking fee; (4) free to leave after 8pm; (5) keep phone; (6) can ask unlimited questions; (7) if $100k raised they run for president/VP; (8) shout out prior panel girls; (9) truth or dare segments; (10) $1.99 truth-or-dare donations; (11) $500 for 30-min video chat with Desiree; (12) $5k for a date; (13) $100k for 'activities'; (14) $199 for closed-mouth kiss, $500 for French kiss with Brian; (15) 20% revenue share and co-branding of the show. Brian negotiates: says no to almost all demands. Desiree eventually returns.

02:04:36
Cleaning Olympics Intermission

After Desiree's first rage quit, Madison (Maddie) vacuums and sweeps the studio to clean up a spill (possibly from Desiree's drink — a wet spot on the couch). Nick also cleans. Brian and Andrew provide humorous color commentary on Maddie's vacuum technique. Brian rates her 7.5/10; Andrew rates her 6/10. Producer Nick later cleans more thoroughly. Show pauses ~10 minutes during cleaning.

02:07:48
Desiree Returns — Apology Exchange

Desiree returns to the show after intermission. Requests formal apology from Brian and Andrew for misrepresenting her expertise in trauma healing. Brian offers 'I'm sorry you feel that way' — Desiree rejects it as not an apology. Andrew offers similar non-apology. Desiree asks Brian to 'protect' her from Andrew; Brian says he'll try. Discussion of Desiree's 'Black ghetto slave soul in sexy white body' email persona concept. She identifies more with Native American construct.

03:06:00
Desiree's Lawsuit Threats & Terrorism Accusation

Brian presses Desiree on her threat to file a class action lawsuit against him and her claim to have an FBI contact who will investigate the show for 'terrorism.' Desiree declines to state her legal claims on camera — says it is a private civil matter. Brian: 'If you sued me for having a bad time on the whatever podcast, an attorney would laugh in your face.' Desiree says the lawsuit is a formality to show the court she disagreed with how she was portrayed, needed for her active custody case.

03:13:00
Patriarchy, Feminism & Gender Dynamics Debate

Extended debate on patriarchy, feminism, and gender roles. Andrew argues women collectively decided to dismantle virginity norms via the pill/sexual revolution — leading to broken homes. Desiree argues feminism is 'the other side of the patriarchal coin' — both systems separate men and women. Discussion of birth control, virginity statistics, marriage rates pre-1960s vs. today, whether patriarchy is natural law or man-made control. Desiree advocates for women returning to home/family roles while opposing government overreach. Andrew: if women retracted from politics, 90% of economic problems would resolve within a year.

03:13:00
Women in Politics & Sexual Revolution Discussion

Andrew argues women are more susceptible to state propaganda and therefore should not have political power. Desiree agrees politics should 'fade out' but disagrees on mechanism. Discussion of tradition as repeatable successful experiments. Both agree mom-at-home, dad-working single-income model worked historically but is economically unfeasible today due to taxation and housing costs. Andrew: this would reverse if women were removed from political process.

03:30:00
Magic Theory & Manipulation Discussion

Andrew presents 'Magic Theory': if a woman cannot control a man through sexuality, she moves to manipulation; if not manipulation, then empathy/tears. Desiree partially agrees, framing her own behavior as 'trauma responding with toxic femininity' to 'toxic masculinity.' Admits to 'intentional aggression' but denies her tears were manipulative — says they were genuine processing. Andrew: multiple points in the debate she obstructed rather than engaged.

03:40:00
Desiree's Background — Church, Trauma & OnlyFans

Desiree discloses personal background: father was a pedophile who groomed her for sex work from childhood, taking her to bars from an early age. Spent 15 years in Southern Baptist church counseling women. Observed that almost universally married women in church were not sexually satisfied ('duty sex'). Left church ideology after friend Steve's death. Now practices conscious kink/BDSM as trauma healing modality for childhood sexual abuse. Andrew challenges whether BDSM healing is just replicating grooming.

05:17:48
Desiree's 15-Point Email & Unsolicited Nude Admission

Brian confronts Desiree about sending an unsolicited nude to the Whatever Instagram page on June 16th 2024 prior to her second appearance. Desiree: 'I'm a hoe, I don't know who I send nudes to on what day.' Admits she did it. Brian frames it as sexual misconduct (no consent). Andrew jokes about PTSD. Desiree frames it as a way to show she wasn't out to get them. She partially concedes: 'I have been rude, I have been conceited, I have not been listening.' Admits to sending the nude and physical approach of Andrew as sexual battery.

05:39:00
Closing — DMs, Promotion & Wrap-Up

Brian and Andrew discuss Desiree's inconsistent DM behavior post-show: legal threats interspersed with flirtatious/sexual messages and expressions of attraction. Brian promotes: debateuniversity.com, Twitch (twitch.tv/whatever), Discord, Patreon, shop.whatever merch, Big La Matter nonprofit. Announces debate planned for the following day at 4pm PST. Extended chat interaction and TTS reading.

Transcript

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05:37:26
Desiree Noelthan try to reach a man to have better communication with him for the purpose of reconciling like coming back together like there was something not right in our
05:37:39
Andrew Wilsonrelating and I just want to clear the air I really like to clear the air as I go with people no I don't understand though like maybe you can Reon so cuz you're in the playful mood right maybe
05:37:47
Andrew Wilsonyou can answer this for me sure um if if there was ever to be reciprocation of me to a woman who wasn't my wife what the would ever
05:37:59
Desiree Noelmake you think it would be with you I wouldn't that's why it was being that's why it was just being I was honestly I felt in that moment my intention was not
05:38:11
Desiree Noelto like turn you on or think that you like don't you think I could get a way hotter chick than you yes I'm sure you can totally you're a famous um what's your coaching program the ver that
05:38:22
Desiree Noeldoesn't exist the verbal assault program verbal assault you're famous you have how many you have thousands of women after you I'm nobody who gives sh I'm
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TTS/Donationsliterally nobody like I'm not a big deal [Music]
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TTS/Donationsokay $69 no shot for for Andrew sh Ru okay it's so weird to me that people
05:38:50
Desiree Noelcan I just make a statement the alcohol in it of itself is a mind altering substance why does everybody only call it like drugging something if you add
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TTS/Donationssomething else to it because the Irish are immune lated 69 legit question for her can she confirm or deny her giving drugs to the girl next to her on her last
05:39:17
Desiree Noelappearance next oh no I did not I okay funny story about me there have been times in my life where I have considered should I try some sort of drug maybe
05:39:29
Desiree Noelthis pain is why people do the drugs and then I am so freaking straight edged for my whole life I'm literally the that's calling people people like where does somebody get drugs like
05:39:41
Desiree NoelI don't even know how this works cuz now marijuana is legal that's really the only substance that I use besides you know alcohol here and there you can buy that at a dispenser now where does one
05:39:52
Desiree Noelgo and get cocaine for example where does one get LSD I literally don't know what not I I don't know I literally
05:40:03
Desiree Noeldon't know I have it's just a funny conversation when I first first left my ex-husband 5 years ago I didn't know how to find porn I was looking for it on YouTube and I L now look you do it
05:40:14
Desiree Noelyourself yes but I do it on my terms I do it on my terms and I do it because I do it because to be honest with you I was in a relationship where I couldn't
05:40:24
Desiree Noeleven feel like a woman I couldn't even make eye contact with another man without getting abused so it was it was basically an ad your idea of what abuse
05:40:34
TTS/Donationsis I'm not confident that I share basically my me going through my adolescence n Abu donated $69 you s admitting you suffer from a
05:40:46
TTS/Donationsvariety of mental health issues what makes your ex or even the state less qualified than you in caring for your children well my ex-husband's a pedophile so that's why no it's okay
05:40:57
Desiree Noeljust what well they asked I mean you're letting these questions come through and you know my story so I don't know why you would let them come through if you know the what am I supposed to say do you want me to lie am I supposed to lie I you're lucky
05:41:10
Brian AtlasI wasn't there I would not be playful with you trying to put your blank on my husband you my ass your ass on my husband you knew he was married where's your apology to me for traumatizing me
05:41:21
Desiree NoelI'm sorry Rachel that was disrespectful I should have made the extra steps and done it to Brian he is single so that wouldn't have
05:41:30
Brian Atlasbeen assaulting another woman at least honestly this is so crazy to me if it was any if it was you or me who did that to a female panelist gone jail right now
05:41:41
Brian Atlaswhere's my the cops the cops would have come literally on the SE registry uh guys where's my book I think it fell or something
05:41:52
Brian Atlaswhere oh oh I'm sorry Andrew was reading it I already gave him his own copy where's my hard copy oh there it is that's your hard copy yeah he just wanted to see the hard copy was it hard enough for
05:42:05
Desiree Noelyou SE good one so now now I'm just going to promote my only fans cuz that's fun so do you guys want to ask me only fans questions
05:42:16
Andrew Wilsonwhy aren't they asking me like what type of content I have what what I mean I nobody wants to know let's see it could either be uh you get naked or you don't it's like it's pretty simple I actually don't get naked in all my content yeah
05:42:28
Desiree Noelso then just all tutorials there like the cave out there there is I squirted for my first time I have a tutorial on there we made it into a tutorial very
05:42:38
Desiree Noeleducational I have tutorials am I allowed to say this am I not allowed to say this yeah go ahead is this a child a child
05:42:53
TTS/Donationsplatform I got it I got it you're not comfortable seore PSA donated $69 question to Maddie what does the
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TTS/Donations1975 Toto signify it's a much better question than her own only fans what the heck it's my father's birth year
05:43:15
Brian Atlasword word all right uh I'm lowering the row session it's going to be $30 TTS if you guys want to get it in uh so feel was
05:43:27
Brian AtlasTTS ask a question a while ago and I don't think you got to it it was by NAA uh did it trigger we just didn't answer it or it trigger you just didn't answer
05:43:39
Brian Atlas[Music] um H I'm not sure what it was how long ago at least by who
05:43:51
Desiree NoelNabu if all of your children came to the that one what is somebody are is he messaging you WR down oh just read it and then I
05:44:04
Brian Atlascan answer it in that way if all of your children came to the conclusion that God wanted them to live oh no we read that we did that one yeah unless that's a different one Nabu mhm is that the
05:44:17
Brian Atlasperson Nick yeah I'm pretty we read it yeah we read that one we read it yeah pretty sure uh so what are you drinking Andrew is that like a soda a special soda $30
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Andrew WilsonTTS if you want for five 10 minutes show guys pink like pink lemonade what is it you can get your R it's a pink lemonade shiroff all right oh like one of those yeah cuz that was all that was in the fridge cuz Brian doesn't keep
05:44:39
Brian Atlasbeer there's I thought there was beer Brian only keeps gly drinks no beer I have to keep Andrew was so mad that there wasn't real beer in there that he smashed the first one of those that's true I did Smash It Andrew have you ever
05:44:51
Brian Atlasbeen a part of Anger Management this threw it on the ground but then he's like damn I need beer I need some beer I need some Al what's your beer what is your what's your favorite beer um he likes Mike's Hard Lemonade
05:45:03
Desiree Noelthat's not a beer what's your favorite beer just just piss water Miller he likes like not Miller Light just straight Miller okay when you said piss it reminded me of the Dumb and Dumber scene where he drinks the pee and he's
05:45:16
Desiree Noellike remember that scene in Dumb and Dumber yeah best best a good one I'm dating myself I'm dating myself but I can't I don't even know these freaking words that the kids use these days I got
05:45:27
Desiree Noelto get up with the times probably I need to call my my I need to call my um consultant my my kids they tell me what the words mean I'm not really sure these
05:45:38
Desiree Noeldays I'm too old my only fans has a lot of very mature content we should watch uh old lady sty let's watch the trailer to uh debate University I think I think
05:45:50
Desiree Noelwe should watch it right you think we should watch it would you give it would you would you comp me a access to your program do I actually to pay it no actually you have
05:45:59
Desiree Noelto pay twice how much is it dou how much is it 500 $4.99 and what's included the course 6 hour of instruction oh my God I got to raise my and you got like a lot of yeah I know
05:46:13
Desiree Noelbut this is actually good I I read your book in like 45 minutes oh I'm GL you read it quickly is the TTS so I teach I teach a 12we course called dreambuilder
05:46:25
Brian Atlasvideo well debate university.com Nick if you're able to pull it up oh can I not have leg what's was I having a problem with my leg Yeah show the show the site then
05:46:35
TTS/Donationswe'll do the trailer dread donated $30 Psychopaths May exhibit a lack of empathy or remorse and can be impulsive manipulative and deceitful so she's
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TTS/Donationsagainst her own code sad she's trying to preach her BS to you guys valev donated $30 no Morgan cute
05:46:57
TTS/Donationsoutfit Maddie Andrew get you some hanger One Mandarin Blossom vodka that is so good BTW whatever and The Crucible have been added to the ammo budget well thank you that means it's serious Jesus on the throne donated
05:47:12
Andrew Wilson$29.99 Des get back on Daddy's lap the second coming of Christ is upon you oh who daddy you don't know what the Amo budget is who's the daddy who daddy PL I hopping on every man has an ammo budget
05:47:25
Andrew Wilsonand if you get added to the ammo budget then that means listen up boys you're always the man code the man code you have an ammo budget that's how that works there is an ammo budget oh we're like the podast we're part of we're part of the ammo
05:47:37
Andrew Wilsonthat means no matter what you always have to have the ammo you see is the ammo like Weaponry actual physical Weaponry he'll always be a supporter always be a support part of the ammo budget I see yeah ammo is like guns like
05:47:49
Desiree Noelliteral ammo or are we talking about like amunition budget yeah I like that man code man I only really know woman code and I'm just filling in the gaps with what is man code Let's Play
05:48:01
Brian Atlasthe trailer let's go to debate university.com really quick there it is and then there's a trailer that you guys can watch which we're going to play right now are you sick of not being able
05:48:10
Madison Vuto defend your position wait what that's what the hook is that's what the hook is
05:48:23
Andrew Wilsonreally your job is not to show mercy no mercy your job is not to back off and allow them to maintain their false ideas that's not your job it is nebulous I
05:48:35
Andrew Wilsonunderstand it's nebulous but also not the one who's making the affirmative claim you are so let's start with some dirty tricks some dirty tricks some kind
05:48:45
Andrew Wilsonof hitting below the belt God damn it you're still whining stop whining product I I'll smack your honestly does your dad say thank you for prostituting
05:48:56
Andrew Wilsonyourself so I have air conditioning now as we hang on hang on let me finish my turn sure sure sure go ahead so as we dive into this though by the way you say that you can't make a deterministic
05:49:06
Andrew Wilsonstate statement which is a deterministic statement how again how dumb are you Bosch debate is a weapon especially in the 21st century when living in the
05:49:16
Andrew Wilsoninformation age about this debate is over goodbye goodbye jackass I'm not interested in your stupid prattle answer my question that makes no sense that's the stupidest thing I've heard out of
05:49:28
Andrew Wilsonyou tonight why would you do anything if you didn't [Music] care beautiful oh yeah beautiful do you think it would
05:49:40
Brian Atlasbe interesting if we offered like viewers if they uh well they they would need access maybe this is among the people who have the program if any of them are editors and they like chop up like you know how movies will have
05:49:52
Andrew Wilsonmultiple trailers no I thought we were going to announce the uh we were going to announce the what was it the the edit fight right what do they call that it's
05:50:02
Andrew Wilsonlike um what I want to do is take the top 10 edits for trailer yeah for for the trailer the winner I I'll give them
05:50:11
Andrew Wilsonum 250 bucks a whatever swe hoodie and a crucible hoodie so make a trailer for it put the best of and uh if you win that's what we'll give
05:50:23
Brian Atlasyou and I was thinking maybe like a year of the membership for the yeah well they get the course for free of course yeah well but they would like we also want to give them like actual segments from the
05:50:35
Andrew Wilsonprogram to make the edit though no they make no not for the it's not necessary for the trailer other I mean yeah yeah you wouldn't you want some of that some of so can it only be open to people
05:50:48
Brian Atlaswho yeah you want the best clips for debate that we can possibly there's that but then there's also like um we would want to splice in segments from the actual program yeah I don't
05:51:00
Brian Atlasknow about that I mean so there's different kinds of trailers I mean yeah yeah um let me get Isaiah fluke donated $50k isah good
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TTS/Donationswork Brian and Andrew I happy to see debate University getting released it might help clean up my comments Isaiah thank you for the TT uh the TTS man do
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TTS/Donationsappreciate I just had to uh hide that specific one but thank you for the patronage appreciate it guys thank you all Swift Tim donated $30 hearing Andrew
05:51:32
TTS/Donationshas been swatted makes me want to support you guys even more and Brian getting blackmailed this de gen has demonstrated every reason to know have
05:51:41
TTS/Donationscustody she'll indoctrinate them Brian's lint roller donated $30 Andrew knew he would get cooked if he
05:51:50
TTS/Donationsbrought up epistemology again desire has a PHD in the study of the Epistles she's the subject matter expert dude that was too
05:52:03
TTS/Donationsmuch more intellectual your strategy on this was to come on and make yourself look better to the courts by saying you'd kill your kids by lethal injection if you didn't like their life would hold them
05:52:15
Desiree Noelaccountable it was so that the court would know I would hold my own children to the same accountability that I would hold even myself or anybody else by the way sft it's a bold strategy C let see
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Brian Atlastoilet drizzler Giant on Livy dun W baby grun fortnite only in Ohio I was going to say it does look like you're wearing a cur by the way Swift Tim I do
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Brian Atlasappreciate your uh support on that yeah you should I mean you guys can see some of what goes on on the shows that me and Andrew have to deal with better I asked what you guys wanted me to wear and you
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Brian Atlasweren't getting back to me okay you see what happens on the show that me and Andrew have to deal with I can tell you that's the tip of the I when it comes to what Andrew deals with what I deal with
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Brian Atlasyou think what goes on the show stresses us out it's everything that you never hear about that happens behind the scenes that the stress new they get the conversations while sometimes can be
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Brian Atlasannoying or frustrating un solicited ass hold on hold on it's not even that honestly it's so I think Andrew can agree it's he wanted it he wanted it I think you didn't obviously I think
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Brian AtlasAndrew would agree on this I would agree on it it's what you see on the show is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to like the nonsense that we have to deal with so uh yeah the show is good the
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Brian Atlasshow I'm cool with the show Show's great the show's good it's everything behind the scenes the lunatics who come after the show oh man you should see like some of this yeah it's it's bad anyways um
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TTS/DonationsLet me let these come through and then we will try to wrap up here J Brooks donated $2999 just joined and clearly I have missed some juiciness can't wait to
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TTS/Donationslisten to this one tomorrow Andrew thank you for destroying that clown Destiny being a tough year for that guy LOL sure has oh yeah it's rough 2024 donated
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TTS/Donations$29.99 S I only caught the last 45 minutes of the convo I didn't realize her X was a creep so that's my bad still
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TTS/Donationswhat the X's go fund me in sh only toes I think she's an undercover CIA or
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TTS/Donationsthis is a skit she's excellent W verbal skills even when shut down you're doing a disservice Brian then promotes sexual
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TTS/Donationsacts odd ideals victim do this real Cersei B donated $30 she would be a likable person if she wasn't a
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TTS/Donations304 I'd watch her of if she was dressed like an armish woman doing house chores Brian when are we getting hawked you girl was this before or after she wanted
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Brian Atlasme and Andrew to cease to exist and the legal I think a lot of these are late comers yeah um uh I reached out to I invited on the
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TTS/Donationspercentage of you degenerates watching will subscribe to her of thanks to this I don't want to exist on this planet anymore you're good L paladins you'll make it bro yeah it's not that bad it's
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TTS/Donationsnot that bad Glenn Lawrence pres Pro donated $40 reacting to this debate tonight is going to be a doozy I think that she is the problem in society and I think that
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TTS/Donationsshe should be deleted I just got that message from her God Jin donated $30 I now know what an aneurism feels like Madison needs ice
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TTS/Donationscream Nick whatever are you wearing on your right hip LOL it's not much but for the beer fund love you all J saw it J Virginia redneck donated
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TTS/Donations$30 happy birthday Rachel Rachel's birthday love whatever and The Crucible check out Rachel birthday God bless you all because I'm
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Andrew Wilsonworking get guys get this plug the reason that you need to buy that book even though it's Rachel's birthday is because I take all of the money to buy concealed Man donated $3 it's impressive
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TTS/Donationshow you exploit others while hiding behind a facade of confidence promoting sex work and manipulating people shows your true colors try being a better
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TTS/Donationsexample for your child instead Thomas donated $30 let me get this straight in this podcast she admitted to multiple counts of sa
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TTS/Donationsdropped the N bomb said you two should be un alived wonder how this would go for a
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TTS/DonationsMan valev donated $30 he no C A slander sh Shi T head I don't get it no CIA slander
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TTS/Donationsshitthead I don't get it yeah you just repeated it yeah Cowboy react donated $30 I'm watching this on the watch party with Rachel on The Crucible and Lady E
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TTS/Donationsdropped the end bomb then said a black girl was there earlier all so she apologized to Rachel then flirted with Andrew
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Desiree Noelagain did I flirt with you it's like I didn't mean to fix the I did not mean to fix what my dad always told me that I should not be so nice to guys or they would think I was flirting
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Brian AtlasI guess that's true okay we have can canus can Andrew if she's right and each person is God and you're also God does that mean
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TTS/Donationsthat God would only $999 thank you guys for all that you do you Andrew do you recommend any history
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TTS/Donationsof the Bible books from one of your previous conversations on the show also desire your psycho Christ is King yeah there's a limited edition for donated
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TTS/Donations$30 Andrew and O'Brien would love to buy you a burger and a beer if you're ever up north in SLO thanks for all that you do hey thanks for the super ma'am thank
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Brian Atlasyou uh that's a San Louis abiso so weren't you trying to go to uh well two Mash is like another hour or uh San
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Andrew Wilsonlispo is like an hour past I think the chew Mash anyways whatever uh thank you man but the answer to that previous Super Chat there's a limited edition you can still find it's kind of rare now but
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TTS/Donationsit's called bibla Giant enormous book it's the Bible Atlas it's called bibla um that's one of my favorites Sons of Liberty donated $30 please debate the
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TTS/Donationscarela cook from Tuesday carela slept her way to the top wants to defund the police give free healthcare to illegals carela is a socialist and a threat to our Republic we're working on it we're
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Brian Atlastrying to make it happen I think she was a little put off I didn't really feel like it was too contentious with her honestly I I mean I thought it was a good
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TTS/Donationsconversation but uh I think we'll make janic donated $30 desire as a lawyer how did you think this was a good idea if you actually are in a custody dispute do
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TTS/Donationsyou worry about your kids seeing this and their friends teasing them praying for you you want me to respond to that if you
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Desiree Noelwant so it was it was am I concerned about my friend my kids seeing this and then no my kids aren't really the type that
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Desiree Noelgive a about people's opinions so I'm not worried about that if if they had some sort of issue with it we would just talk through it like we do anything else they know I'm a public figure and
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Desiree Noelthat I get criticized a lot for my viewpoints so it's kind of just our normal family
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TTS/Donationsculture Glenn Lawrence pres Pro donated 2 $9 Brian I grew up in Santa Barbara Chumash Casino is about 45 minutes north
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TTS/Donationsof you San Louis abiso is about an hour and 15 minutes north of the casino for Rachel's birthday I'm grabbing the Rocks get the Rocks yeah Abdul thank you
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Brian Atlasthe rock I didn't know you're from Santa Barber that's cool man uh sorry hold on uh guys get your last minutes in can you finish reading this
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Madison VuAndrew if she is right and each person is God and you are also God does that mean God would only be a four out of 10 also can you throw out a this is what men do thanks to The Crucible for doing
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Andrew Wilsonthe Lord's work where's the camera I can look into all right cuz that's what men do wait do one more
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Andrew Wilsontime one more time I did it I did it we're moving on okay we're moving on I did it he gave 100% that's see I could I can't do it again okay all right if you
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Brian Atlaswant guys get your last minute messages in last call final call I'll spam this really quick then we're going to get out of here guys I hope you enjoyed the
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Andrew Wilsonstream uh boom boom boom is Rachel doing a stream she is she is live I'm sure that she's tired that's probably went on a lot longer than she thought um but if you do do a raate over there make sure
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Andrew Wilsonthe people over here and whatever mhm uh she always does a good job over there maybe you can send a little support her way yes let me do a redirect over there and then we'll do an
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Brian AtlasAR raid watch party lady epistle okay so that should be set uh we're going to do a twitch raate if you want get your last minute messages in
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Brian AtlasLast Call on the TTS is I really appreciate your guys's uh support and patronage I know this was kind of a sort of uh unannounced kind of random show on a Thursday but uh appreciate y'all for tuning in you guys seem I mean the
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Brian Atlasviewership was really good as good as our dating talk so good credit to Desiree on that I suppose good on The Crucible too sweet that's awesome all
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Brian Atlasright who are we going to raate on Twitch let's see who we gonna raid on
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TTS/DonationsTwitch I want melons donated $69 just saw the stream with Andrew wife on the C can you say hi to her now that's a
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Unknown/Ambientyou going to use an actual man or are you going use one of your dildos what the hell bro that's crazy okay I don't think I would be allowed to talk about that on YouTube
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TTS/Donationsright a little inappropriate wait can you pull up the stream nick uh yeah do you guys still need me here uh we're going to write yeah Mrs Andrew X donated
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TTS/Donations$29.99 I am Andrew X believe it or not I am the first to buy desire's book no cap after reading this book I was like
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Brian Atlasshe I will start a book club and call [Music] mmam all right let's see all right
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TTS/DonationsRachel you're coming up what do you have to say how did you think this was a good
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Brian Atlasexwife the same setting with Daisy and put the wait Daisy fresh Daisy yeah we finally putting in yeah oh right we should what do you think if we got her
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Brian Atlasback on that would be fun I don't I don't think we I'd want to talk about like the Walter stuff though I mean it's already been I think it's fine now we already we already went through that said that done that uh can you pull it I
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Unknown/Ambientwe want you see what God just wait wait they they have to pause on face normal family
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Unknown/Ambientuh there going to be some Inception dude yeah they they have to pause
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Unknown/Ambientwait there we go I see what he's trying to do he's trying to get you streamed in there so now you should be able to talk but you can't hear him at all unless you're watching on your phone so open up their stream we just need her to say
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Unknown/Ambientyour phone and we're going to do some weird backwards stream SE where our stream won't be able to hear can you guys tell her just to yeah see now I can hear myself on their
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Unknown/Ambientstream okay so say hi to their chat and uh tell them CH this is weird and doesn't happy birthday Rachel I know she
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Unknown/Ambientcan't hear us but happy birthday Rachel happy birthday Rachel hi Andrew hi [Laughter]
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Unknown/AmbientBrian this is a weird Inception going on right now Brian what I thought I I want thank you so much for the happy birthday wishes I appreciate
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Andrew Wilsonyou she can't hear us doesn't going on right now Bri she's like they're still going uh okay we're going to give it another 10 seconds Rachel do you want to say
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Brian Atlasanything to Desiree Rachel do you want to say anything to Desiree say something I don't know if she's hearing that we get back to the the proper I don't know what to do okay all
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Unknown/Ambientright Desiree Rachel do you want to say anything to Desiree say something okay say something to Desiree real quick oh yeah to desire I'd like to
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Unknown/Ambientsay don't ever touch my husband and you should be glad I wasn't there because I would have I would have put a stop to that quickly nice from
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Unknown/Ambient2024 okay all
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Brian Atlasright I can already tell that I don't like you okay uh all right I think that's it for the show thank you guys um
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Brian Atlasoh raid twitch raid okay Nick this is going to be an ampy ahm py on Twitch he is currently playing World of Warcraft
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Brian Atlasclassic era he's playing uh he's doing
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Brian AtlasPVP War song gch uh this guy this guy a
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Brian Atlasd oh no hold on ah yeah mpy okay ready yeah so we're going to raid
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Brian Atlashim uh actually I hold on wait bring it to Twitch really quick first I need to do the outro oh man okay guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a
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Brian Atlasdebate university.com uh yeah it's uh if you want to learn how to become a master debater you need to check it out oh just hang tight Des we're like right there about to end the
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Brian Atlasshow right now about to rap just hang tight uh thank you thank you and then bring it over or actually hold on uh so GG well played last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could been anywhere in the world but you're here
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Brian Atlaswith me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we will be live again and tomorrow with a debate probably around I think we're aiming for 4 p.m. to go live that's going to be a good one be sure to tune in for that dating talk
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Brian Atlaswill be live again of course on Sunday 5:00 pm. Pacific uh 07s in the chat let me do the raid to ampy Nick if you can
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Brian Atlasget that going pull that he is playing in warong gch PvP he's a warrior this guy is one of the best raid leaders main
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Brian Atlastanks in the game you want to just wait Desiree
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Brian Atlasoh all right okay all right uh well we're going to raid him so I hope you guys uh tell him he should come on the podcast tell him we can talk about World of Warcraft classic uh but we're going to
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Brian Atlassend the raid over uh right now thank you guys for watching who those of you who watched on Twitch raid sense and he
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Brian Atlasis trying they're trying to return the flag to The Horde base in warong Gulch and he's glitched there he's he got out of
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Brian Atlasit I don't know if he's going to notice I don't know if he's he even has a microphone on at this point I think
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Brian Atlashe's just tuned in to uh you know owning people in PvP in any case that's it so I I don't think he's what
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Unknown/Ambientthe heck bring it back what the heck you the
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Brian Atlasbro I know late n PVP stream about the clap this Mage okay all right I think that's good uh
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Brian Atlasall right I think we're all caught up just want to make sure all caught up on chats yep we're all good all right guys thank you again so much for tuning in uh it was an interesting
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Brian Atlasone uh probably one of the M were interesting streams we've had so uh thank you guys again for tuning in appreciate all the patronage tonight
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Brian Atlasyour support's been very much appreciated 07s in the chat good night guys we'll see you next time