She STORMS OUT And DELETES Her ØF?! 3 BABY DADDIES?! Men CAN NOT Have Standards?! | Dating Talk #155

Date: 2024-04-24

Duration: 6h 21m

Guests

MMaddie (DT155-staff)

Brian Atlas

SSelena Bowser >

KKarina Naline >

VVictoria (DT155)>

JJesse (DT155)>

LLauren (DT155-NP)>

PPriya (DT155)>

LLiam Christopher >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Selena Bowser(guest)

SPEAKER_03Karina Naline(guest)

SPEAKER_04Cara/Victoria/Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jesse(guest)

SPEAKER_11Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_14Lauren(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions: Selena Bowser (31, PA, CNA), Cara (26, Tampa FL, sugar baby), Karina Naline (27, Dallas TX, marketing/bodybuilder), Victoria (34, PA, SAHM), Jesse (20, Wisconsin, CMR), Lauren (32, PA, pediatric NP), Priya (23, CA, law enforcement training), Liam Christopher (35, Australia, digital entrepreneur), Jake (28, Australia, YouTuber Rattlesnake TV).

“go ahead hello my name is Selena Bowser I'm 31 years old I live in Pennsylvania”

Key MomentVictoria confirms she has 3 baby daddies (pre-show notes revealed by Brian). 1 child before marriage, 1 with husband, 1 during separation.

“three baby daddies I do oh okay I know uh how many kids do you have three three oh from three”

Key MomentSelena rates herself 10/10 in extended self-rating debate. Acknowledges others might rate her 5 on average. States: 'I'm cute like I'm a 10 I don't care.' Lauren and Jake push back.

“I'm cute like I'm a 10 I don't care”

QuoteSelena on her self-rating at age 21: rated herself a 5

“what would you have rated yourself at 21 oh god 5”

ControversyCara's OnlyFans deletion attempt on-stream and rage quit. Brian and Jake push her to delete OF and Twitter live. Cara becomes emotional, asks for 'a break', gets her bag, and storms out. Brian confirms: 'she said she's leaving, asked for her bag and out it.' Cara is seen in a car. Brian removes her from episode description. Labels it 'strumpet meltdown.'

“she said she's leaving asked for her bag and out it”

QuoteBrian labels Cara's departure: 'that's a rage quit'

“pretty sure that's a that's a rage quit”

QuoteBrian confirms Cara rage-quit: 'she's in a car — that makes I don't think she should be driving'

“sweet she's in a car okay that makes I don't think she should be driving”

QuoteBrian coins 'strumpet meltdown' phrase for Cara's departure

“melt down after delete uh one melt down strumpet melts down strumpet meltdown”

Key MomentBrian reads Victoria's pre-show note on air: she has 3 baby daddies; not sticking to Traditional Values has been 'unbelievably detrimental' to her and family; wants to warn young women; 'I would never want a young girl to walk in my footsteps'

“currently going through a separation... I have three baby daddies... not sticking to my original Traditional Values have been unbelievably detrimental to me and my family”

AgreementKarina describes female peers across school years pressuring her toward bad behavior while men always protected her choices to stay pure. Females hold grudges; keeps distance.

“females from middle school to college have always tried to get me to do bad things”

Key MomentJake cites Bettina Arndt 'Men Too' book. Male suicide at unprecedented rates; men north of 40 losing family/finances to legal system. Donation from viewer who almost deleted himself.

“men are deleting themselves at unprecedented rates in society at the moment”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and announcements

Brian's standard intro: support via streamlabs, TTS at $200, memberships, merch, Discord.

Guest introductions

9 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation.

Relationship status round

All guests describe current relationship status. Cara's sugar baby lifestyle detailed. Victoria's complicated marriage disclosed. Jesse's surgeon boyfriend discussed.

Would you date a police officer?

Panel goes around. Lauren: yes (married to one). Cara: no (lifestyle incompatibility). Jesse: yes. Others mixed.

Oral sex etiquette debate

Brian discloses he does not go down on women (last time: 2007-2008 'Bush Administration'). Panel debates hygiene, exclusivity requirements, women's preferences.

Selena self-rating debate ('I'm a 10')

Selena claims she is a 10/10. Extended philosophical debate about self-rating, logic, bell curve of beauty. Jake and Lauren push back. Selena acknowledges others might rate her 5 on average but maintains personal self-view.

Victoria: 3 baby daddies reveal

Brian asks about pre-show notes revealing 3 baby daddies. Victoria explains timeline: 1 child before marriage, 1 with husband, 1 during separation. Co-parents with all 3.

Circumcision debate

Lauren disagrees with Brian's anti-circumcision position. Extended debate about medical necessity, body autonomy, complications. Victoria reveals 2 sons had hypospadias needing circumcision. Jake discusses friends with circumcision complications.

What is a woman? question

TTS donation triggers 'what is a woman' question. Panel gives various definitions. Selena: 'a vagina' (Brian calls it most misogynistic thing said on podcast jokingly). Others: XX chromosomes, adult human female.

Marijuana debate

Brian and Liam share bad weed/edible experiences (panic attacks). Panel debates marijuana as red flag in partner. Lauren: depends on frequency. Brian: had hallucinations on weed in high school leading to lifelong anxiety.

Cara's OnlyFans deletion attempt and rage quit

Brian and Jake push Cara to delete her OnlyFans and Twitter on-stream. Cara becomes emotional. Says she wants to but is impaired. At ~3:18 asks for 'a break,' gets bag, and walks out. Brian confirms she rage-quit and got in a car. Labels it 'strumpet meltdown.'

Nurses as red flags debate

Jake and panel debate whether nurses are red flags for dating. Lauren defends nurses. Discussion of hospital culture, sex among staff on night shift (psych hospital).

Karina: female social pressure

Karina describes how female peers (middle school through college) always pressured her toward bad behaviors while men always protected her choices.

Bowing debate / 'Asian housewife' video

Brian plays 'Asian housewife' bowing video. Panel asked if they would bow for a man. Most said yes if he treats them well. Maddie promises to recreate video for Frankie.

Jesse: conservative backstory

Jesse (20yo) discusses owning real estate, Russian Orthodox upbringing, moving out at 16, former feminist phase, finding Alex. Most conservative/traditional female voice on panel.

Victoria reads regret statement on-air

Brian reads Victoria's pre-show notes aloud: 3 baby daddies, Traditional Values regret, wants to warn young women. Karina and Lauren respond supportively.

Karina: female fakeness / manipulation

Karina describes hearing female peers plan to make men fall in love then dump them, marry for money, and manipulate. Liam adds darker story.

Male deletion / male suicide crisis

Jake cites Bettina Arndt 'Men Too' book. Male suicide at unprecedented rates. Men north of 40 losing family/finances to legal system. Donation from someone who almost deleted himself over a female.

Makeup ban hypothetical

Brian proposes hypothetical ban on makeup. Panel debates: would level playing field, create black market, reduce female competitiveness. Jake and Maddie comment.

Feminism causes depression/divorce (Lauren)

Lauren says feminist 'girl boss' messaging caused her to prioritize career; she finds more satisfaction as wife/mother. Would trust husband to vote for household.

Body count round (late show)

Brief body count round. Lauren: declined. Priya: declined. Maddie: passed (implied low). TTS chaos mode opened for $20 donations.

Show wrap-up and Twitch raid

Brian thanks panel. Notes Cara deleted her OF (uncertain if it sticks). Raids Twitch streamer Aladar who is playing World of Warcraft Battlegrounds.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthey're in the trees love bomb for two months discovered she was pregnant fought over homeschooling and being a sh uh stay stay at home mom she broke up with me completely ignores me for 3

Brian Atlasmonths now claiming it's her X not willing to get the paternity test first ever ship [ __ ] show yeah wait first ever ship ship 100 [ __ ] 100 yo uh thank you for the Super Chat man I think that's

Brian Atlasyour first one uh really appreciate your Super Chat and your patronage thank you man uh damn pre uh he he was love bomb for two months pregnant that's crazy dude

Laurenis it your kid though or like did you get a paternity test I hope you did he said she ain't willing to get one oh but I'm really choice though that's that's really unfortunate I'm really sorry

Brian Atlasthat's happening to you yeah yeah uh let me just make sure a couple other chats came in I want to make sure I can read them uh did we go around on the from stochastic

Brian AtlasDecay uh rate your intelligence on the scale of 0 to 200 if you can quickly uh

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TTSlike0 like jul the SCU Chio donated $69 off topic but your man misses his Caribbean Queen heart you're doing such

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Liam Christopherafter the show that's where I was with yesterday in La train any time like IQ or intelligence in general go oh the Bowing question Nick were you able to get the Bowing video

Brian Atlas125 to your man Nick you can go ahead and play the clip boom look at the bow huge huge sign me up sign me

Brian Atlasup okay so look very attentive she's going to fold she's going to toss that in the p uh the laundry excuse me she's look dinner's ready to go he gets home

Selena Bowserfrom a grueling podcast session she's got she's got a beer ready food's ready Brian's dream girl dream girl oh stirs it for him dream girl she going to chew

Brian Atlasit for him too sign me y stir the noodles uh play it one more time just so we can see the bow look at it

Brian Atlasboom the PA unbelievably attractive uh so going around the table would you bow for a man if he would do the same for me

Brian Atlasno can't no don't don't don't even go there he he just was like listen can I see a bow would you do it I mean if he wasn't a jerk about it yeah

Brian Atlaswhy not like you're in a talking stage you're in a one month talking stage right now actually well if he was like Selena right yeah let's see about yeah if he said that like that I would you

Brian Atlaswould do it yeah if he was like bow down [ __ ] I wouldn't you know tell I would ask Maddie have you hear the bow for Frankie not yet how hold on how you

Maddie (staff)going to be part of the whatever podcast and not just be busting out bows for your boyfriend I bust opening the door for you when you come home I do all of his laundry I cook him food I do other

Brian Atlasthings but maybe I should try out about you are withholding from Frankie on as his representative yeah it's sad man I

Brian Atlasam I am disappointed I you know he's told me he he's confided in me and me confided that he's upset that he hasn't really been receiving many bows lately or at all free Frankie free Frankie in

Maddie (staff)the chat Justice for Frankie free Justice for Frank Justice for Frank promise promise you promise to hit a b I'll record it I'll record it we're going to post I'll have a hidden camera in the house wait that would be

Brian Atlasgood wait can you actually do that I'll take an invasion of privacy action yeah I I'll do it and then we'll post it on the whatever Discord if you guys want to see it um I'll remake that entire video

Maddie (staff)but me actually that's a great idea I like it cuz I do everything in that video but bow wait yes oh wait dude that'd be great to have you remake the video can we just do the video of medy

Brian Atlasfrom now on the B yeah we'll just that um does that girl kind of have the Crazy Eyes a little bit though did you guys little bit the crazy eyes so you got to do the crazy eyes

Brian Atlastoo I would yes I love that video Yeah it what was his name Julian mhm if Julian was like Karina let's see let's

Karina Nalinesee the bow would you do it yeah oh I I I don't say no I never say Julian you gotta listen we're you're from uh Texas right yeah I'm not born and raised there

Brian Atlasyou're living there though right okay MH Julian when when you're back to Texas Julian you got to you got to get a bow actually don't even ask for a bow you just got to give him a bow and then you got to message me on Instagram whenever

Brian Atlasyou do it and be like tell me tell me the results of the bout tell me well he's listening so it's kind of okay would you would you hit about are you sure okay if he

Cara/Victoria/Priyawanted yeah of course sure why not I feel like Pria I don't know I feel like priia you would you would fight the bow a little bit would I fight the bow I feel like if the guy asked you'd be like I feel like she just laugh yeah I was

Karina Nalinegonna say it would be a bit comical for me but sure oh okay not there you go I mean I feel like any woman who loves her husband would just do anything do

Brian Atlasanything yeah if she doesn't cut you cucumbers and doesn't bow it's over boys just dumper it's over it's done that's a standard the Cucumber puff done the

Background/crewCucumber it's worse than the AMU war in my opinion I'm just making shirt we uh bizarre thank you oh that was thank you

Brian AtlasNick thank you Nick uh so and just let's try to keep that up uh who is the primary victim of war men or women well apparently I don't

Jakeknow cuz when you asked me earlier it wasn't a good answer can I give a bit of a yeah this is what I want to hear an experience from the Russia Ukraine war I wasn't involved myself but I've traveled the world a lot over the last year and

JakeI've probably been to about 15 countries or so and in all of the real tourist like digital Nomad hotpots there is a massive population of Russian and Ukrainian girls if you go to Bali

TTSthere's there's Russian Ukrainian girls around every single Corner same with mal1 donated $69 I don't know if Brian is real I

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Brian Atlasremember me well here's the thing I uh I only played really I played a bit in the burning Crusade played a bit in vanilla

Brian Atlasso I I never played wrath so I actually I don't know the raids in Wrath so but uh thank you man glad that you came over from stays saafe I really

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JakeKNX go ahead Jake yeah so it's just to say that um there's a lot of Russian Ukrainian girls who have fled the country and they're going to Bali and Thailand and places like this and that's you know that's just the nature of war

Jakeand it's the nature of life but men are either dying on the front lines and there's about 400,000 plus men that have died on the front lines or they're fleeing the country in shame so it's a

Jakeprofoundly different um circumstance for men and women when it comes to

Liam Christopherwar why why are you looking at me I think all wars are a scam as well to be honest I mean no matter which country it is usually go and die to make some politician richer that's just my opinion my humble opinion by the way that's true

Jakeespecially the Ukraine war every single War yeah they combine Ferrari don't say that about the U War emu war was just oh no

Liam Christopherthe right that's the only War I support is the Amy War so just we go they had it coming genocide those things we will go around the table on the question though

Selena Bowserwho's the primary victim of war men or women obviously men men men oh yeah men men obviously men I still think it's all in different

Brian Atlasaspects I'm not changing my answer but okay so in order to be a primary victim of something like for example let's say there's a a murder would you agree that

Brian Atlasthe person who's murdered is the primary victim well it's the only victim well you could say the secondary victims could be the family for example oh okay I see what you're saying yeah then I

Brian Atlasguess man yeah makes sense okay Checkmate godamn it got explain it you know got to explain

Cara/Victoria/Priyait what about World War II though what about it who's the primary victim there the Germans what the [ __ ]

JakeI mean the technically you're not wrong the the the um the ethnic cleansing of the Germans after World War II was the one of the biggest ethnic cleansing in

Brian Atlashistory I I saw that stuff [Music] yeah nice oh it's not I why isn't I'll

Brian Atlasjust read it Loose P energy these busted whoa you got to be nice my friend have such a problem with bowing but we'll let bro you took

Brian Atlasmy line we'll let dudes freaking blank all over their faces make it make sense bow down Abdul get the Rocks ashre Nick

Brian Atlas8 at 18 would bow yeah they all said they would bow he just wanted they did all say they would bow I do make it a point that well I think the other one is uh

Brian Atlaslike so you'll have girls who would refuse to make their boyfriend a sandwich or like cook for them wow that's crazy but they'll let a

Brian Atlasdude Splunk all over their face that is crazy who do you think was the primary victim of World War II you're a history

Jakebuff do you mean between men and women no I mean just in terms of the uh European countries who got who got who got demolished the hardest uh wasn't the total death count

Brian Atlasfor Russians like the highest I think yeah I think it lot of was an internal I me so like in terms of I think total military

Brian Atlaslosses between I think it was Russia and uh Russia and Germany but actually I'm curious in the Pacific

Brian AtlasTheater if uh there were like the death count in like Asia was potentially cuz Japan was just like destroying like running through Asia yeah they did a

Brian Atlasnumber on Nan King that's for sure welcome to the history Chan Channel I'm your host bran Atlas with a little late night history talk I think they they dropped like ERS of magnitude

Brian Atlassounded like some ASMR on Dresden alone they dropped orders of magnitude more nukes than even hoshima so it's true so they got really what are your thoughts on the

Brian Atlasmaano line Jake what's that what do you think about the maano line what's the Mago line what are your thoughts on it you left it m The Mao line it was

Brian Atlasa line around the French border I'm getting zesty okay I should stop then okay all right moving on that was fruity moving on wait we got some notes from some

Brian Atlaspeople you just make him act up Jake you really making dry he has he's got that yeah okay he's got that impact on

Brian Atlaspeople wait hold on uh let's see here we have notes we need to get through wait where are we Jesse that's you okay yeah uh you said

Brian Atlasthat you uh wait love to be on the podcast with all the liberal anti-christian women who deny that the Christian conservative lifestyles are truly more pure and successful as someone so young

Brian AtlasI'm only 20 who already has so much financial success I own real estate I'm in a very committed long-term relationship with a surgeon believe that I can be great talking peace on your podcast great strength and what I believe in I think I could be an

Brian Atlasentertaining lady for your viewers us so wait you own real estate or so we own a house and I have purchased lots of land like lots that are developing in

JesseWisconsin no different state okay state that I live in with my boyfriend where he practices um so I've done that and I have made a lot of success at 20 years

Jesseold I think I came from a different situation so I am Orthodox my parents raised me Russian Orthodox which meant like you were treated as an adult from a

Jessebaby in Rush North at least that's what they did and with that you know I grew up in a different household I grew up that you

Brian Atlashave to work wasn't given anything so mhm yeah and you said that you were you are very conservative but

Brian Atlasyou weren't always no you said that you were an independent woman from 16 to 18 yeah and thought you thought not that

Backgroundyou don't need no man mhm but life did a full 360 yeah wait hold on so if a

Brian Atlas360 means so do you mean a 180 so if if you do a 360 I used to I used to be a prostitute but I did the 360 still a prostit where I started

Brian Atlasyou're still a prostitute um but okay U not saying that I'm not saying you did that just as an example um uh so okay you were an independent boss babe used to be a feminist but you turned very

Brian Atlastraditional conservative wait but you grew up super traditional conservative and then you became like feminist boss babe and then you you uh came back to your roots came

Brian Atlasback what's that called when you the Flop the p flip flets pendulum there's another one yeah windscreen wipers what's that what's that Australian

Brian Atlaswhat's that Australian Boomerang I don't know Boomerang would imply 360 yeah not sure what I'm talking

TTSabout Ben George donated $69 humans are the largest victims of war why do the majority of humans allow

Brian Atlasthe minority wage war on their behalf uh word yeah um allow the minority wage war

Jakeon their behalf well there's not much you can do when you live in a world full of propaganda and you have people at the very top of society pulling the strings and they have their own Financial interests and their own maalan power

Jakeinterests and they impose these things upon us and we have to try and resist it as much as possible I personally I'm I think we should Annex Canada leen's r a

Brian Atlasbit of living space what do you guys think should we Annex Canada yeah I think it's a big threat like it's getting super woke so I think we should like I think it's going

Brian Atlasto become a Muslim country in a few years could be I do think like what something I thought like just for our national security I think we kind of

Brian Atlasjust like I think if you pull up a map I think we just take everything down to Panama because like that's there's like a very narrow like piece of land there

Brian Atlaswe take everything down so okay we're going to Annex Mexico this a lot like pretty deeply say I have I have goals I've got an idea for you

JakeBrian if you really want to do that I'm kidding I'm kidding don't if you really want to do that you should get some powerful friends buy an island find somebody to work on your behalf make them a fake billionaire get them to take lots of politicians to the island so you

Background/crewcan compromise them and then you can have them in your pocket and get them to Annex Canada nobody would really genius sounds bit familiar I'm kiding by the way I'm joking about the don't want I

TTSdon't want to Annex the the the Central America okay one donated $69 I am back bring the guy in the back

TTSon the mic I think he needs to be allowed to speak the guy in the uniform give us your credal AKA your gaming

TTSexperience please also Brian come to Texas hey uh can we say on that spenc I've never been to Texas I'd like to though Spencer actually Gustavo Spencer

Jakeactually is a philosopher Gustavo Gustavo is a philosopher he does philosophy he's a very intelligent man he's a man of few words at the back there but if you get talking to himanish and I'm not even jok about that

Brian Atlasit's very true very true bringing it back to Jessica here I will come to Texas eventually eventually well we're going to bring whatever on the road

Brian Atlaseventually may maybe maybe we'll see uh you uh wait so you're saying how you were you know raised conservative became an independent woman feminist from age

Brian Atlas16 to 18 did that manifest itself though like with dating like was there a period of promiscuity or well so when I was

Jesselike I would say maybe the Gap was like 14 to 18 but I grew up probably not with the best father role model as far as how

Jessetheir marriage with my mom my father was so I always thought I don't want to be in a situation that my mom was in I don't think I could find someone who

Jessewould treat me that way or treat me better I didn't want to be in a situation where that was ever possible I never wanted to be with what it was so I

Jessewas like nope I'm not going to get into a relationship I'm not going to date but I was a young rebellious girl and I liked attention because I

Jessewasn't getting it at home and didn't have a lot of friends kind of but I like the attention that I was getting from men and I was always into older guys obviously I didn't I wasn't with anyone

Jessewhen I was underage but there were definitely situations I did go through like a little bit of a phase I mean I moved out at 16 I worked at a hospital immediately

Jesseworked at nursing home I was working like 60 to 80 hours a week just grinding trying to get money living on my own at the time I had my own

Brian Atlasapartment yeah well you said in your notes you said you were a hardcore feminist yeah I so I mean what were some of the hard core things I had that like

JesseI hate men I was saying that damn um definitely did a 180 there um I thought that men really were objective creatures

Jesseand that's all they wanted I didn't think that I could find a true marriage or find someone that was capable of loving me the way that I want to love somebody so I just thought you know what if it's

Jakejust physical it's just physical and that's fine what was it that changed it finding Alex or my boyfriend yeah yeah and did did he bring you around to these

Jesseideas you conservative sort of guy he yeah he is very traditional but I think it just kind of happened naturally I just when we

Jessemet I can't even explain it's when you meet someone that chemistry the instant yeah this is the person we can talk for

Jesseforever we can see each other there's a future and he wants to love somebody I think it was really hard for me to see a

Jesseman loving their wife the way that I wanted to be loved yeah and he is just the best boyfriend ever he tells me

TTSevery day it's not just his words his actions that guy slingshot donated $69 question for the panel would you agree that dating has become over

TTScomplicated compared to how it was with our grandparents our 40 and 50-year marriage is a thing of the past how do we get back to

Laurenthat I think exactly what she was saying yes 100% way more complicated way more complicated unbelievable very complicated I hope 40 and 50 year marriages aren't a thing of the past I

Laurenthink social media has a lot to do on like uh quick access to um men and women on dating apps um increases Temptation and I think that has a lot to do with it but no I'm hopeful that we'll be able to

Brian Atlasget it back to how it was it's complicated there's with's sugar

Brian Atlasdating sug oh wait now was more like oh no was I don't even know bro I'm losing my mind here but there's these I I blame both

Brian Atlassides men are are sing in really weird ways they're like pay pigs and [ __ ] it's super weird that complicates things and then like you have the women on the other side of it who are taking

Brian Atlasadvantage of these broken men and then um there's dating apps feet picks it's getting very complicated I don't know

Laurenwhat's going on Instagram's probably a big kill Instagram absolutely I think it depends on your geographic area too much people think they have more options like how you described it like I think

Cara/Victoria/Priyathat's beautiful I think that's um you know able to be found yeah I think that's phenomenal that you found that in in your current relationship it is really really hard with um a lack of

Cara/Victoria/Priyastrong and good father figures in the household and we're seeing obviously an increased amount of either fatherless homes or you know poor fathers basically

Cara/Victoria/Priyaum and it's really hard it's extremely difficult for for young boys to to have a father like that or not have a father at all but it's also really detrimental to women I think because really I've

Cara/Victoria/Priyatalked about this a lot lately but um the father really really sets an example to daughters and how they should be treated by men and if you don't have that it's so difficult I've I've

Cara/Victoria/Priyaexperienced that in my personal life as well and it's it's it's A Hard Road to to figure out that and navigate that but but I'm so glad to hear that that you've you found what did you experience in that regard sorry um I I had a pretty

Cara/Victoria/Priyapoor relation relationship with my father when I was when I was younger yeah was he with your mom as well um he was with my mom for a period of time and then um a lot of it went went quite sour so it was just not a not a great example

Cara/Victoria/Priyabut um but yeah it is really really difficult and it's something that I've had to made make an effort to reflect on so yeah and I think it's honestly way worse I definitely had it way better off

Jessethan my brother did I would always look at him and I love him so much we're not super close but the way way he turned out scared meh because I love him you

Jesseknow he I remember the kid he was and then he just didn't he didn't get to that point where he could be a confident man yeah and that was the hardest thing and I didn't want to be with a man that

Brian Atlascouldn't be that father yeah now you said that you used to live a casual dating life yeah the two men you were casual with they fell in love with you

Jessebut you you were an [ __ ] to them yeah so um before I had met uh my boyfriend again I like the attention I

Jessewasn't into things sexually that wasn't really my situation a little bit scared but also traditional in the sense I didn't want to just give myself

Jesseaway um so I had met one person we had been talking for a long time he was a player all over but I just really liked

Jessehim I loved his sister and he out of nowhere is just like hey I really want to date I want to have kids with you I think you'd be a great mom and I was like I didn't think you'd be a great dad and I wasn't really nice to

Jessehim I definitely wasn't a good person to him and we've fixed things since then but

Brian Atlasand that happened twice and we're friends now all right got it going back to Karina here to

TTSfinish your notes here I'm lambas Sky donated $70 lamb Sky to pria's comment I'm Canadian and go to

TTSthe US sometimes secularism is stronger in Canada we are nowhere close to being a Muslim country nor are they trying they're here to find work mostly

Cara/Victoria/PriyaTBH I have seen plenty that says otherwise but we don't need to get into it it's not a political podcast fisel fisel um there's

Brian Atlasdefinitely demographic changes though going on in Europe that's for sure absolutely uh I'm here to Karina you said I'm telling you females from middle school to college have always tried to

Brian Atlasget me to do bad things to lose my virginity weed go on date sneak out Etc I never understood why whereas men have always protected me and wanted to preserve protect my innocence they were

Brian Atlasalways respectful they never threw themselves on me they always would ask if I was ready but I just didn't want a boyfriend at the time yeah we kind of talked a b about that yeah mhm yeah it's

Karina Nalineit's uh yeah I've never been lucky with females and I never understood why um CU I would love to have you mean with friendships right huh like friendships

Karina Nalinelike yeah female friendships um yeah that's just my luck I guess you know that's why um towards like the end of college I just stopped talking about what I want in life what I desire and

Cara/Victoria/Priyaall that stuff because I knew they weren't going to like me for long M um but yeah it's okay girl don't let up on those polies keep talking about them especially you want to you want to you want to have friendships and and

Cara/Victoria/Priyarelationships with people that have similar values to you yeah find them in the church that's all I can say bringing it to Victoria Stang yes you said I'd like to discuss the recent increase of

Brian Atlasanti-feminists who mostly just hate on women in a cruel way and are basically Uncle Tom's for gender instead of race mhm what do you mean by that I just feel

Cara/Victoria/Priyalike some of them just kind of agree in a way that's just insincere like

Cara/Victoria/Priyawomen can you elaborate a little bit um so because I I I call myself an anti-feminist just because I don't

Cara/Victoria/Priyaadhere to the the beliefs and the oh I I agree too I'm an anti-feminist as well yeah I just mean that there are some women who just they take it too far if

Cara/Victoria/Priyathat makes any sense anti feminist yeah do you have any like more specific examples or can you describe a little more Sor no you're good do you mean just basically like they'll just agree with whatever like the man says just for pick

Karina Nalineme pick me yeah essentially it's almost like a pict inter mhm yeah I think females nowadays have lost a lot of empathy with men towards men yeah a lot of EMP they just don't

Karina Nalinecare they just want they want to do every they want the man to do everything for them and they just want to just sit back and relax and not send that over to Nick

Cara/Victoria/Priyaanything yeah yeah I agree I think there's a there's a large a large anti-man culture and make sure it's there's nothing interesting it doesn't

Cara/Victoria/Priyareally yeah I don't understand why anyone would hate men like yeah we need them especially because they still want to get married and it doesn't add up and I'm like

Cara/Victoria/Priyayeah people have lost the idea that we have over on screen compliment roles and there's a beauty in that and um and yeah we're different for beautiful and amazing reasons andimiz it's important

Brian Atlasto recognize that and to adhere to those roles and values yeah it is you can show that okay pull it up on the other tab

Brian Atlasboys we have an update this is a victory for the whatever podcast we have we have changed to

Brian Atlaslife apparently uh scroll up Nick are you able to scroll up on this page no oh this is all it shows yeah okay well that

Brian Atlaswas this this is the girls scroll make it bigger though it's a bit small oh so she deleted her only fans uh

Selena Bowsershe apparently deleted her of so good for her phenomenal Round

Brian Atlasof Applause for her so uh yeah does that some of your skepticism a little we'll wait and see we'll wait and

Brian Atlassee more time hey changing what's that saying changing hearts and and Minds Minds winning

Brian Atlaswinning hearts and Minds yeah I don't know I don't know all right Spencer came in with the Intel so uh

Brian Atlaslet's see where uh we were where were we I forgot where were we talking here uh Tori said what I uh oh with uh Victoria you said I don't know if I already read this

Brian Atlascurrently going through a separation that I'm not trying to reconcile I'll seeing one of one of my sons fathers while I was separated I ended that yesterday I don't remember when you sent that but also you tend to think that a girl like me can't be traditional I have

Brian Atlasthree baby daddies so maybe that's not the best word to describe me exactly but it's the best way to describe what I believe is best for young women and now and how not sticking to my original Traditional Values have been

Brian Atlasunbelievably detrimental to me and my family I would never want a young girl to walk in my footsteps but I also think that young women really need to hear the consequences of having low no morals

Brian Atlassingle motherhood excuse me single motherhood isn't easy I also wanted to make this clear just in case my ex tries to message you about me I didn't get any

Cara/Victoria/Priyamess is well that's good you might end up getting some I wouldn't be surprised I think it's a beautiful thing what you're doing though thank you I think it's I think it's an amazing we all we all fall short to the glory of God and I

Cara/Victoria/Priyathink it's really important that we are able to recognize and reflect on our mistakes and admit to them and um because we all we all we're all Sinners and we all make mistakes we have that in

Cara/Victoria/Priyacommon plenty um and it's it's great that you're you're willing to speak out about it and and be um and caution young young women into

Cara/Victoria/Priyaum being weary of making certain decisions Caucasian yeah it's fine and I'm sure take a sec though I mean I'm sure you have I mean you have three beautiful children they're of course a blessing

Cara/Victoria/Priyaeven though it came out of um unconventional circumstances but that's something to be amazingly grateful for and I think you're doing the Lord's work thank you very much very fizzle fizzle

TTSI'm there's a TTS that's come through again various crazy people donated $69 never been a worst time in recent history to be maale and Caucasian it's

Karina Nalinetrue or going to the gym as a man can't even go to the gym in well what happens in the gym because females yeah of glancing over and uh

Liam Christopheryeah oh yeah I got idolized it's the worst it's my worst thing evering to sit there yeah they won't stop looking at me I still

TTSviolated not nice Amore theore tated $69 I agree with the panel I think one of the biggest detriments to society now

TTSis the anti-men population they want the perks of traditional treatment but don't want to give it back then blame the men yes absolutely y oh there is an epidemic

TTSa pandemic of non-traditional women demanding tradition treatment from men it's insane it's

TTScrazy bro it's crazy youa way appreciate it glasses how does your guy feel about this friend would you put him to the

TTStest and text him you need him tonight and see how he responds W for strung out strumpet what go oh the from years ago we don't talk

Jessenow I think she just meant that she reconciled yeah we're friendly but we don't talk I don't I don't speak with anyone you're on good terms right yeah

Brian Atlasdon't speak with anyone from okay previously word word uh you going back to Victoria you said actually wait sorry this chat's been sitting here for a sec

Brian Atlasso I'm just going to pull it up real quick we have Kyle Kelsey the legend a nurse student that I met at a festival told me I was a piece of [ __ ] and be

Brian Atlasterrible to have a family with because of my career choice to the Aussies they still they still have cool cabovers

Brian Atlascover what can you Google what that means the [ __ ] is that so what is his career choice cab the cab kab kab not sure what that is Yo Kyle Kelsey thank you man good to see

Brian Atlasyou in the chat good to see you as always man appreciate your Super Chat thank you I'm not sure where the cabover is though how do you guys not know you guys are Australian what's going on boys my entire life are you guys fake

TTSAustralian run run they're Ki quadman $88 donated $69 thank you quadman appreciate family unit being eroded main problem one in

TTSfour you drugs after 24 years married had to kick mom now single dad raising two on my owner's quadriplegic large swath of women just don't have good

Cara/Victoria/Priyapriorities I don't understand yeah I agree thank forel porn is also a huge huge Factor yeah drugs bad

Brian Atlasuh wait had to kick mom what yeah that's the that's where no single dad raising two on my own wait hold on kick your single dad raising two kids and you're

Brian Atlasquadriplegic oh wow real um how do you quadman 808

Brian Atlasuh damn that's I wish you tough I wish you God's speed in your recovery I don't know if it's possible to come back can recover

Maddie (staff)there's been some Miracles right doesn't it depend on like how severe it is there's been uh I think there's you know never say

Brian Atlasnever way your kids are very lucky to have you absolutely yeah so uh listen quadman 808 by the grace of God I compel

Brian Atlasyou to be healed Faith healing [ __ ] do it okay um I was reading something from Victoria

Brian Atlashere oh Victoria okay I have a bone to pick with the host now since you said to message here with any that's why I'm going to keep uh okay so I disagree completely oh I read this about the

Cara/Victoria/Priyapromiscuous women turn I don't know if we even did we even we kind of talked about I think TTS came in we kind of talked about it I don't did did you want to was

Brian Atlasthere more there or not to that one I feel like I we just I read it and then we pretty much just moved on I think we spoke about it we spoke about it very yeah okay yeah all right all right uh

Brian Atlasdid we though did we okay then repeat the question I think we did okay well here's my position here's my position right I don't think men should date

Brian Atlaswomen with high body a high body count even if it's in their past that's it yeah I don't think there's anything wrong with that yeah that's it yeah I agree that's my

Cara/Victoria/Priyaadvice I wouldn't want it for my son I wouldn't yeah yeah this is probably exactly what happened before is that we all just

Brian Atlasagreed on that oh good times the only girl who what no not you Madison oh the the other one

Brian Atlasleft um J I don't know she gave two different I don't know um uh wait

Brian AtlasI did actually have one response to the thing about like uh you know it being ridiculous me thinking it's kind of ridiculous uh so I think it's more from

Brian Atlasthe angle of like okay I would even if you're a Christian man I don't think it's ideal to date a woman who had who has a pass of

Brian Atlaspromiscuity it seems who who like but like who wants to let's say the Christian man wants to wait until marriage and then you're like encountering a woman so there's two there's two things here that this is the thing we didn't talk about so there's a

Brian Atlaswoman with a promiscuous past who now wants to wait until marriage now if you're a secular man and you're you have no interest in waiting to marriage absolutely not you should not be

Brian Atlaslike if you're not inclined to wait till marriage obviously it's like duve you shouldn't if you don't want to wait until marriage go date somebody who doesn't want to wait until marriage don't date somebody who wants to wait till marriage um

Cara/Victoria/Priyabut if you're a Christian guy I wouldn't recommend it either cuz I guess reasons my question is to you more just like what would you expect

Cara/Victoria/Priyathem to do like what do you expect like what do you want them to do instead well I mean it's more my advice is more so

Brian Atlasadvice I'm giving to the men so I'm not saying like you should continue being

Brian Atlaspromiscuous I think it's good if you're like reeling that back in but I I don't know I'm not sure what the solution is to be

Brian Atlashonest um I would say though you know if your standard of okay you have a pass of promiscuity and now you want to wait until

Brian Atlasmarriage and if you're holding out for a guy who's willing to wait until marriage and who's going to accept your past you are po intentionally closing the pool of potential partners that would actually date you but they're not inclined to

Brian Atlaswait till marriage so for example like you could a man who would otherwise date you and maybe even marry you but they don't have an interest in waiting to marriage you

Brian Atlasare closing the door on those men so I mean I my like if you're a man and you're inclined to wait until marriage why not just pick a

Cara/Victoria/Priyawoman who doesn't have a passive promise well of course that's the ideal but that's not obviously always ends up panning out sorry it's my first time

Brian Atlasif Andy uh oh Andy Dick I'm assuming I wonder uh sorry if there's any cursing I guess dick it won't read it uh can delete his off then there might be hope Haha I've been doing a lot of soul

Brian Atlassearching the past year do you guys honestly believe people can change if so what does it take to change think he meant to say I absolutely believe people

Jakecan change yeah even if the girls who have come on this show and even her like I hope that she does change and want the best for her but yeah it is obviously possible to change and people can turn their lives

Jakearound who will do stupid things when they're younger but even on this topic of dating girls with a high body count if you're a Christian guy and you've been waiting until marriage there is a an an aspect of naivity when it comes to

Jakethe modern dating world and if you do date girl who has a very high body count with that has also come she's leared the game she's really eaten from the tree she knows how to manipulate to get what she wants and she knows how to use and abuse guys and she has that knowledge

Jakeand to think that she won't bring that into the relationship and then manipulate you as well that's a big askk you'd have to be a very very strong principled man who's yeah got his [ __ ]

Cara/Victoria/Priyatogether I think we're also seeing a huge huge reversion towards Traditional Values and people coming either back to the faith or turning to the faith for the first time um so I think there's

Cara/Victoria/Priyaprobably quite a few men and women that are in a very similar boat and I yeah I think I think we're underestimating how many people might be in a similar situation in that sense and that's why I like to have these conversations even with that girl before because whether or

Jakenot she deletes her only fans and changes her life I hope she does whether or not she does is in inconsequential to me but the fact of the matter is that contrary to popular belief that this podcast is solely watched by incels with their dick in their hand

Jakeit's actually a lot of young women who watch this podcast a lot of young women who are looking for a little bit of guidance in their life and who want to see what the kinds of men that they would go for might like so I like to have these conversations to help guide

Jakesome of the younger women who are watching yes who are looking for a way forward and who want to move towards more Traditional Values because I've said this before on this podcast if you understand the things that you ladies understand on this podcast it is an

Jakeabsolute superpower when it comes to dating you'll you'll stand out so building a better uh generation for

Brian Atlassure I have a few more notes Here we have going back to Lauren Lauren says we talked about the circumcision but you

Laurendisagree with Brian's take on makeup well actually I have to retract it because on Sunday's uh podcast you kind of clarified like you know if they're wearing like a little makeup it's not

TTSlike but you spent a lot of time talking about it so I don't want to harp we we can talk about it oh behav donated $69 men who don't want to get married but complain about the lack of Trad women is

TTSsilly we agree on a lot but I think it's better when you have more push back on the show table of pikm today equals

Cara/Victoria/Priyathumbs down uh I do agree with that honestly did everybody he is a Pik me no no no no no are you a p

Brian Atlasme I'm talking about the first statement oh the first statement yeah don't get married boys don't [ __ ] do it don't get married and how are you going to ask for a traditional

Brian Atlaswoman Brian because the traditional woman that you want is going to want independent boss man and I can uh uh

Cara/Victoria/Priyauh women do that [ __ ] all the time I get that I'm just up of equality yeah but we've said that that's we've said that that's

Brian Atlasequality I'm not going to marry you but you better do my laundry oh my gosh uh you're such a troll sometimes it's true

Cara/Victoria/Priyathough what nothing I'm just saying you know I agree like channeled Bill ber that was a good actually I understand your argument obviously it's incredibly difficult with the lack of

TTStraditional woman out there but you can't expect a traditional woman and then not adhere to those values that she's going to want as well donated

TTS$69 hello Brian and panel to the quadriple T s proud of you sir I personally give you a standing ovation

Jakekeep that head up and keep on rolling oh my God bro wow brutal no that was funny that was funny I liked it that was good even quad man would be laughing at that

Brian Atlasyeah I don't think they want to be like coddled you know they want to be treated equally yeah you can joke about me right I would assume so if they have a good have a good sense of humor it maybe I

Jakeit's important be able to laugh at yourself a bit yeah it's very important in the Australian culture it takes out of our in any culture it should be uh but about the marriage thing not in favor

Cara/Victoria/Priyaof I'm not I'm not I it's I mean it's very similar to how these feminist leftist women want traditional conservative men it's very similar TR I

Brian Atlasactually think it is a stronger position though for for for example like a woman who's a feminist who wants a guy to pay for for a first date

Brian Atlasum I I do think that the a a man being hesitant to marriage even if he's traditional or inclined to be tra

Brian Atlastraditional or he desires a traditional partner I think it's really valid because the state has sort of destroyed marriage and there's there's laws on the

Brian Atlasbooks when it comes to marriage yeah that like there's actually tangible reasons for why a man could object valid like valid reasons for a

Brian Atlasman not wanting to get married under the current social climate and under the current legal climate I don't object to that whatsoever so I think it

Cara/Victoria/Priyait like men have valid reason no I understand the hesitancy and it's it's completely valid but at the same in the same breath you can't expect this very moral traditional woman to not have her

Jakeown desires traditional desires of marriage and family forel can I just say with this argument I always find it a little bit useless and I enjoy watching you guys talk about it but the argument of whether men

Jakeshould get married or not obviously if we want a healthy Society men should get married but it's this is a spiritual problem this is not a political problem this is a problem that people don't believe in God anymore as atheism has gotten more prominent in our societies

Jakeeverything just tends to crumble so when people don't believe in God and they don't that they're not a part of a church and they don't adhere to that sort of worldview and lifestyle yeah this seeps in so unfortunately as much as it would be we can argue back and

Jakeforth about to secular people as to whether they should get married or not and what are the perks and what are the risks because there are a lot of risks involved there also good perks as well this is a spiritual problem absolutely I completely congre yeah I mean it's very

Jakedangerous these days for men to get married in a secular sense and as much as I'm a proponent of the nuclear family and I it's my own goal one day I'd completely understand why a man wouldn't want to get married yeah I mean I I

Jakecompletely agree in in a secular sense I mean you heard what um Liam just said then men are getting absolutely shafted on The Daily I agree I would I I would

Laurenlike to know what advice you would give to men to um kind of seek out the right type of woman so that they don't get caught in that situation later on if they do well this is a really tough one yeah yeah no that's a it's a good one

Jakebut this is a really tough one because if you don't have a religious like worldview and belief then like if you're in a secular relationship

Jakehow do you define your values you know yeah so once again I would say probably seek out some sort of a okay here's what I'd say to you guys

Jakego and do some research into the apologist William Lane Craig and look at his work into the case for Jesus Christ there's also a movie called the case for Christ and there's a book called the

Jakecase for Christ as well and it lays out all of the details about why Jesus was a historical figure and how he died on the cross and all of the evidence that he was resurrected and see if that changes

Jakeyour mind as to whether Christianity is just a myth in a fairy tale because you can't just click your fingers and start believing you can't just click your fingers and just become a Christian you have to actually do the intellectual

Jakeheavy lifting and a lot of people want a lightning bolt and they oh that's my spiritual moment but unfortunately for most people it's about getting up every single day and fending off all of the ills of the world and all of the all of

Jakethe degeneracy of the world all of the cultural and political ills and all of the scalid behavior that we engage in and to try and actually create your own foundation and to try and yeah but it's not easy it's something that we have to do every single day yeah I completely

Cara/Victoria/Priyaagree and I think that marriage falls apart a lot of the times I mean like you were saying due to the lack of religious beliefs and I mean we are in such a secular world right now um but there's

Cara/Victoria/Priyanothing if you if you don't have God as the foundation of your relationship what what are you being held accountable to yeah like there's there's nothing yeah like you said there's no there's no moral backbone

Cara/Victoria/Priyalike we can all say I mean there are sets of morals that we on a broad scale even the secular world can agree that are wrong but obviously our morals have to come from somewhere and when you

Cara/Victoria/Priyadon't when you are when you have secular beliefs there's no backbone to that there's no origin to that and yeah it's very hard to continue to define the the

Brian Atlassmaller the the ills go yeah 100% forel couple more notes Here we have do you didn't want you didn't want to engage on the makeup thing we can no no I I I think you're absolutely right

Laurenthat some people can look like a completely different person and it is very deceiving um but I I thought your perspective prior to Sunday was that you didn't want any makeup like you would oh

Laurenyeah let's do it you would have your that is what he' prefer that is like on a on a panel if I had no no like like in a in a female girlfriend or partner

TTSreal Trump donated $69 to the Irwin kids does Australia have the same laws as the USA regarding child support and Al aka the guy gets

Liam Christopherscrewed I know Singapore has neither and men are more willing to have families take it I mean I'm probably I have 12 lawyers that work for me so I'm the bad one to answer this cuz I don't really do

Brian Atlaswell with the law so maybe you could take this one yeah Australia has pretty pretty strict laws as well and this is the Western World Amanda I'm going to just skip it and then if you want to finish and then I'll

JakeAmanda I'll re-trigger this in a sec yeah I mean Australia has equally bad laws I'm not 100% sure about what the laws are in the United States but Australia in Australia women win all the court cases as well pretty much and guys

Jakeget constantly screwed over and they get their kids taken away from them and this is one of the main reasons for male deletion and there's a lady called batina Aunt who's a an Australian author I had her on my podcast the reality based podcast if anyone wants to go

Jakecheck it out and um she wrote a book called men too and she just goes through all of the statistics about how men are getting screwed in the legal system and unfortunately one of the things that nobody wants to talk about is that men

Jakeare deleting themselves at unprecedented rates in society at the moment and one of those reasons is because they get into their and a lot of people will say oh yeah men should just talk about their feelings more but unfortunately what happens when you've got nowhere to go a

Jakelot of the people who are deleting themselves are north of 40 that's the biggest age bracket and a lot of the people in that bracket who are deleting themselves it's because they've lost their family they've had breakdown of relationships they've been financially drained and then they get to a point

Jakewhere they just what's the point in even living and then they end up on a noose and this is a massive problem that nobody wants to talk about so well put let me pull up the message

TTSfrom Amanda here Amanda uncore theore medore at $69 this is one of the best panels that I have watched and I have admittedly

TTSbinged watched a lot of them very great discussions off topic but to the nurse the lab does not Emil samples on purpose I'm not a nurse I'm not a nurse

Background/crewanymore I don't know what that mean why did somebody one of you talk about emailing yeah I know what she's

Brian Atlassaying no well that's good okay thank you thank you Amanda for the nursing knowledge knowledge knowledge bomb info

Brian Atlasbomb truth bombb appreciate it so wait okay on the makeup thing really quick okay so if I let's say in this hypothetical world I just had authoritarian to like total

Brian Atlaspower would I ban makeup I would ban makeup makes sense you couldn't produce it you couldn't buy it you couldn't wear

Liam Christopherit in fact the penalties producing it misdemeanor wearing it felony you know what happened straight to jail about a black market for you put on some mascara straight to jail you have makeup cartels

Jakemakeup cartels yeah because you'd open up a black market for makeup and then you'd have like Pablo esar of makeup they're wearing the crime on their face yeah going to say pretty was pretty identifiable you don't think this is

Brian Atlasgoing to be like the most authoritarian the police I'll take it over North Korea police like what do you guys think you guys down for that like if I just I

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