00:55:14Stephaniemy dad passing away sooner than my peers and that is a very depressing you know experience for well wait wait I'm sorry I I don't I don't mean to cut you off
00:55:24Andrew Wilsonagain St it's Stephanie yes correct okay what did you say your age was I'm 30 you're 30 okay it's not even uncommon for people at 30 years old to have one
00:55:35Andrew Wilsonor uh or even both parents pass that's not even that uncommon right I understand yeah so I'm not I I guess I'm still just I just want to make sure that I understand correctly right like I
00:55:48Andrew Wilsonunderstand that there could be some unique challenges with having age parents I had a dad who was um who was much older when he had me for instance than what what was normal amongst my peers wasn't that old he wasn't 59 but
00:56:00Andrew Wilsonright he was still older than uh than most of my peers and I was given kind of um a moral background or you could say a a moral system which was outdated let's
00:56:11Andrew Wilsonsay um which I thought was great like that I always thought that that was like a wonderful thing that he gave me right so um I'm just I'm just kind of trying to key in
00:56:22Andrew Wilsonon the uh the idea of the age discrepancy being the problem versus like I had Parkinson's I didn't speaking you know what I mean that that I guess that's what I'm trying to key in on yeah
00:56:32Stephanieum if you if I may um so something oh thank you so something that does come to my mind is that when from my experience personally when I was growing up I kind of had this understanding that my dad
00:56:43Stephaniewas a lot older than most and that I kind of understood that death would be coming faster and that I didn't know how to prepare with that kind of like existential crisis of like not having my father around or what to do or
00:56:55Stephanieespecially how lonely I have felt and so apart from this podcast like I have put like effort into trying to you know make friends on Reddit and like reach out to to places to see if there's anyone that
00:57:07Stephaniemaybe have a similar situation and you know with that type of attachment I think that having an older or an elderly father definitely may have impacted my
00:57:17Stephanieattachment style and has has caused some difficulties with me understanding and definitely with me taking care of my dad like I didn't have a normal job the way that other people did so I didn't really
00:57:29Stephaniehave the same socialization I didn't go to school and so I had a lot of responsibility in being alone a lot yeah I think I understand now uh where it is that you're coming from yeah um but
00:57:39Andrew Wilsonmaybe maybe kind of hear me out on this yeah wouldn't it be bad for any parent then is really what you're saying is that if they have health issues or they have kind of unique challenges which are
00:57:50Andrew Wilsonstationed to them that that burden's going to fall on the child right yeah well I it doesn't even matter the age so like if your dad was 59 and he spoke English and he was perfectly healthy and he didn't get dementia he didn't have
00:58:02Andrew WilsonParkinson your your challenges here would have been significantly different right right exactly so even if he yeah so even if he had been 26 27 28 with those conditions it still would have been extraordinarily challenging for you right yeah exactly and I I would have
00:58:15Stephaniehoped that back then or even like parents or you know parents to be like that they would consider like the future of the child so like maybe therapy or education or anything that can kind of help support you know them grieve what
00:58:27Stephanieyou're going through you know cuz it's not easy being a caregiver like as a child you got to learn to take care of yourself as well and advocate for yourself so it's definitely a very um complex situation nonetheless but it's
00:58:39Stephaniejust a matter of like how we can you know like you said like you can't really tell who's going to have a disease and stuff like that so it's not necessarily their fault it's just a matter of how we can support each other through these types of dynamic situ well it's not necessarily the age either right yeah
00:58:53Andrew Wilsonthat's exactly what I'm saying but for my circumstances personally for my dating experience this is what it's been for me yeah yeah for you because you have because you have kind of these like different problems but exact you can
00:59:04Andrew Wilsonunderstand from my perspective that unique challenges like this could be basically put on a kid from any age demographic right yeah it's yeah exactly
00:59:16Brian Atlasokay all right yeah I just wanted to make sure that uh that we could clarify that no worries so you've been the primary and sole caregiver for both your Brazilian
00:59:26Brian Atlasand you've been for the past 12 years yeah correct okay and this this makes you approach dating in a more methodical way one in which conserves uh your time and the energy
00:59:37Brian Atlashaving so much responsibility in such a complex circumstance you date intentionally while holding maturity in high regard you've studied animal nursing have an undergrad in Psychology
00:59:49Brian Atlasand you're currently in school for nursing and Premed you only know working for both your parents all your adult life his job it's restricted socialization which in turn makes dating
01:00:00Brian Atlasa bit challenging for me okay restricted socialization so that was like the homeschooling or yeah like I was homeschooled cuz my dad with his Parkinson's he couldn't drive me anymore
01:00:12Stephanieto school and then me working for my parents every day or like you know as a full-time job like I don't get to meet co-workers and go out and you know like every day my life is the same like with my parents and then I do have school so
01:00:24Stephaniethat's what I was trying to mention is the loneliness and then also like the desire to connect with people and then obviously not knowing like you know having the time and then like how people
01:00:33Brian Atlasare like my own naivity I guess you know as well okay all right um but I mean have you you've been on dating apps at all yeah I I'm using dating apps yeah
01:00:45Stephanieokay um you said you've been single for two years yes correct ah okay uh but in that 2-year period I mean has there been there's been some guys in the picture I'm assuming no just like dating and
01:00:57Stephaniegetting to know people so youve been celibate for 2 years no seriously yeah I hav't celibate you've been celibate for two two years I have not yeah actually almost no sneaky link really no sneaky link no cell it for two years yeah and I
01:01:09Stephaniethink that's a part of like my circumstances like it makes me this way you know it's like I'm very to we have your dating app don't we let's do a quick review yeah all right we'll get that pulled up here guys in just a sec
01:01:22Brian Atlasif you guys can also like the video if you're enjoying the enjoying the show so far guys like the video thank you guys we're getting that pulled up here oh it's okay thank
01:01:32Brian Atlasyou all right this is your hinge profile to you relaxation is sitting in the steam room after a great workout uh 354 Christian spiritual
01:01:43Stephanieleather you speak Portuguese English Spanish and Korean Korean is hard I that all right let's hear some Korean no that's that one's very difficult for
01:01:53Stephanieme I will I tried will embarrass myself no say h say like yeah I said one word and then no I I'm okay you keep thank you though I'm trying to learn you said
01:02:06Stephanielife partner I'm only interested in those who want to be a husband yes correct okay I'm dating intentionally have you always dated intentionally um before I wasn't as mindful cuz I didn't have the self-development and awareness
01:02:18Stephanieto understand and or the education to understand about dating and what do you mean so like you had some casual hookup no not necessarily but like um how do you say like
01:02:30Stephanienot purposeful relationships more so like just being together like for four years but not having like both the set intention to make this long-term relationship go somewhere like besides
01:02:42Brian Atlasjust being comfortable with each other and you know attachments okay pull it back up we'll get through the rest next all right that's a photo cool nice thank
01:02:53Brian Atlasyou uh I want to talk to you about your car okay homeschooled I care all right next what do you what do you say in that voice memo I just said U we'll get along
01:03:02Stephanieif you're funny okay next can you read this for us oh this year I really want to go go dancing camping go on a cruise learn Korean go
01:03:13Stephanieto festivals and Snowboard also ride a dirt bike do an outdoor obstacle course explore new cities and travel ooh and play at a water park and have a bonfire at the beach all right pretty wholesome
01:03:25Stephanienext wow is there another one or is that it okay you want to read it the one thing you should know about me is I am
01:03:36StephanieBrazilian energetic adventurous eccentric feminine funny conscientious romantic loves to loves to sing dance model talk learn workout bake cook play
01:03:48Stephanievideo games arcades and go to amusement parks is there another one is that the last one yeah yeah go back three to
01:04:06Brian Atlasthe one more uh so your Brazilian energetic adventurous eccentric feminine funny conscientious and romantic when you say
01:04:17Stephanieyou're romantic what do you mean um I guess like more like into like chivalry and just like poetry and you know just
01:04:27Brian Atlaskind of a little this is an interesting difference between men and women so so you're you're not romantic you want men
01:04:36Brian Atlasto put romance onto you okay you you have a capacity to receive romance right but you yourself are not romantic I would I would think that I am romantic
01:04:48Stephaniewell you just said chivalry is that something women do or something men do no men but what I'm saying is that so how are you how are you romantic the way that I express my feelings um like if I'm going to like give someone it's going to be something thoughtful and
01:05:01Stephaniesomething about us like poetry pictures and make like a little collage and put a little bit more like emotional like Haus or maybe like just depending if that's how I'm feeling romantic towards that can you ride hiou right now for
01:05:13Brian Atlasme you know what you could you might have to give me some time all right I we'll come back to it but but so uh in what ways would you expect a man to be romantic or chalous towards you um with the way that he treats me the way that
01:05:25Stephaniehe talks how he holds me into like consideration and um how vulnerable he can be also with with his feelings towards me his intentions towards me that's how I would kind of start feeling
01:05:37Stephanielike this person is expressing romance with um sherly like how you're saying that's more from a man and then just expressing his feelings for me the Romantic feelings when I think of chivalry though
01:05:49Brian AtlasI don't I mean I tend to think more like paying for dates being a gentleman I suppose it has some relation to your conduct but not your conduct but the man's conduct
01:06:01Brian Atlasum kind of falling into a more traditionally masculine role being a protector provider um these sorts of things yeah
01:06:13Stephanieuh is that your sense of what shiori is or yeah to be honest like I myself am discovering and exploring like relationships so like I'm definitely in a place where I'm looking at different
01:06:25Stephanielike relationship coaches that I'm learning information from and how to date and what dating means so like that British guy what do you mean relationship Co coaches no just like trying to learn and educate myself on
01:06:37Stephaniewhat dating means and how like the process of dating means and what I can expect and what you know just stuff about myself what you know what I want so like there's some um people that I do like to like utilize information from so
01:06:49StephanieStefan speaks is a really good one I like to also learn about like toxic relationships so you know can also learn about red flags but I think as of right now I'm trying to focus on green flags
01:07:01Stephanieand so just like learning also biochemistry and like dating as well and just understanding myself and what I could even want when it comes to a partner so what what advice have you gotten from this the guy you mentioned
01:07:14Stephanieor like of these other dating coaches or whatever well from no it's okay so from my understanding so far what I've accumulated is that dating is it's it's a lot of discovery about what what you
01:07:25Stephaniewant and yourself and dating does not mean mating like you don't just like I don't like kiss on the first date kind of thing like it's about to know um in the past before yeah before I educated
01:07:35Stephaniemyself on relationships and dating and the process and stages of dating so okay yeah so that's why I'm I know I don't know everything about dating but I'm definitely like trying to look at
01:07:47Stephaniedifferent um materials or like sources that I can like resonate with and understand and you said now you're looking at it and in terms of what you're I'm trying to remember
01:08:00Stephanieexactly how you phrased it what you're looking for yeah like um because through dating I get to learn a lot about myself as well like what do I like what kind of person I am around this type of Personality or just like some things I
01:08:11Stephanielike to do or how to put boundaries down or like things that I should be or not should be liking but things just learning how to like socialize and be around people as well and like learn
01:08:22Stephaniefrom them and you know how to connect with people and what makes me compatible or chemistry with some people like just to kind of discover and explore myself
01:08:32Brian Atlasokay there's a lot there uh so what I guess what are the primary things that they're teaching you though the
01:08:40Stephaniedating coaches well um according to Stefan speaks there's stuff um more so in regards to like chemistry connection
01:08:51Stephanieand um compatibility and I've also read a book by uh don mlar that uh it's more like biochemical stuff so it helps me understand about like you know not being
01:09:02Stephanieaffectionate too soon and just like how women produce oxytocin and we Bond you're talking about sex yeah sex affection well from my understand I think it's it's sex it's about sex so
01:09:13Stephaniewait there's a book about not [ __ ] too soon yeah it's uh called men chase women choed by Don maslar is it a recent book or I don't
01:09:23Stephanieknow if it's recent but she yeah so are you waiting until marriage um for who I'm dating yeah to have sex yeah you're going to wait to be intimate yeah you're waiting until marriage yes are you a
01:09:35Stephanievirgin I don't I'm not comfortable answering that I'm sorry that mean that means no right yeah exactly yeah
01:09:45Brian Atlasum so you said when it comes to being affectionate in your in the past you uh you were affectionate more
01:09:57Stephaniequickly not necessarily I think that I was misinterpreting like understanding what happens to me with affection like how people get attached with affection
01:10:07Stephanieor communicating too much too soon and not really like or asking like good questions that can kind of um reflect if we are compatible and if this is a good
01:10:17Brian Atlasinvestment of our time how fast what what's the fastest you've been affectionate with a man and in the past um like well you mean like holding
01:10:30Brian Atlashands like simple I thought we were talking about sex no I thought you said affectionate it's interchangeable okay I mean but have you hooked up with someone relatively
01:10:41Brian Atlasquickly for second thir part of my history no never no so you've made all your previous Sexes wait a month two months 3 months couple days I'm not comfortable answering my sexual it's a
01:10:54Stephaniedating podcast I understand I'm not comfortable with that thank you though in any case um do you think it's going to be and are you newly
01:11:04Stephaniereligious or have you always been Christian I've had um I'm still exploring my spirituality and like my faith and stuff and like my values in in
01:11:14Stephaniethat regard so it does become a little uh would you say you're on um would you say you're on a journey yeah I think that's very important you know for me personally so I can't give like
01:11:27Stephaniedefinite answers but I'm definitely trying to work towards that because I do have a lot of you know things that I I do on a daily are you born again is that I was baptized yeah when I was 15 well
01:11:38Brian Atlasdon't you think it's going to be a bit of a hard uh sell to a guy uh that the this next guy that you meet he has to wait until marriage to have sex but you've had sex with men who were not
01:11:51Stephaniepreviously married to you don't you think that's you're assuming that and I did not speak on that can we not can we keep my sexual history private please I mean it's a dating podcast it's within the preview of the conversation well I
01:12:02Stephaniemean dating to me is more so about getting to know people like and I mean I asked you earlier okay I asked you earlier you said you've been single for two years I asked if you were celibate and
01:12:15Brian Atlasyou said yeah I've been celibate for two years so I mean I know you don't want to talk about it but imped you implied you're not a virgin it's okay we're all adults here this is a fairly I mean the average age of the panel here is in
01:12:26Brian Atlastheir 30s sex is a it's not a super taboo thing to talk about it's we don't need to talk like details about right
01:12:35Stephanieany sexual experiences but I don't think at 30 years old it's uh would be wrong for you to say you're not a virgin that's okay I respect your opinion like I just don't feel that way about myself
01:12:47Brian AtlasI don't think it's opinion I think it's just fact true like the the current social Moors and climate I don't think there's it's objectionable to yeah at 30 and amongst a panel of your peers who
01:12:59Brian Atlasare similarly aged to Simply say whether you're a virgin or not but in any case you already basically implied that you weren't so okay okay
01:13:13Qum this is going to be a difficult would it be better for actually oh I'm sorry I didn't mean I I just wanted to know really quickly would it be better if he would have asked you um based on what you the information you provided would
01:13:25Qit be do you think it's unreasonable based on your dating history and this new Journey that you're on that a man would accept that do you
01:13:36Qthink like your current terms in which you would want to date um I can't say for sure like I don't know like you don't have an opinion either way on if that would it's not about that it's more
01:13:46Stephanieso about like I'm okay being alone like I'm okay so to me even if I if I choose to be married and have a husband or not that's okay like it's the person the right person will be okay with that will respect my boundaries will respect what
01:13:59StephanieI need to make me feel safe and that's okay so you're okay with so you don't want to be married you want to be married but you're okay being alone well I would like to be married but I also can accept that if I don't am
01:14:11Stephanienot compatible with someone in that regard that's okay I'm not going to force and be too attached to the outcome but I am putting an effort so that's what I'm trying to explain okay all right you you got the floor is yours
01:14:23Andrew WilsonAndrew oh thanks well I was just curious um you you got a dating coach for the express purpose I assume of um learning dating techniques or understanding
01:14:35Andrew Wilsonbetter about how the dating Market works right yeah and relationships in general as well yeah if if a big part of relationships is going to be the history of the person you agree with that right
01:14:47Andrew Wilsonmhm yeah yeah so if you're talking about dating specifically then the history of a person how they treat other people how you treat other people your sexual
01:14:57Andrew Wilsonhistory all of that is going to go into the idea of this um compatible partner that's what Q's talking about here right the compatible partner so when Brian's asking this it's not designed to make
01:15:09Andrew Wilsonyou feel bad or horrible or anything like this right it's to explore the Viewpoint of what it is that you're after in the dating market right uh and if your expectations are reasonable or if they're unreasonable based on what
01:15:20Stephanieyou're bringing to the table not asking this in order to hurt your feelings or no I understand I'm just not comfortable sharing that publicly like I said I'm trying to rehabilitate into a society that I didn't really you know as a child
01:15:32Stephaniegrowing up being more alone so it's like it's it's a little bit different of a different experience for me to just share intimate parts of my history in that way like like intentionally and
01:15:42Andrew Wilsonlike you know so that's why I was just I'm not comfortable with that wait I I did want to point out I did want to point out um one commenter said something here that's actually pretty clever and pretty funny that you are
01:15:55Stephaniewearing rosec colored glasses I just wanted to point that out right no it's because I get migraines and so for my history like the Rose Colored Glasses block like some of the the lights like
01:16:06Andrew Wilsonhow bright they are yeah it's from it's just it's just ironic it's all I'm just pointing out it's very ironic but anyway okay wait you said that your [ __ ] what
01:16:17Brian Atlaswas it um you said something like your recovery or what was it the word you used there's a word you used it was like my
01:16:28Stephanierecovery or something damn rehabil said Rehabilitation Rehabilitation from what no like trying to rehabilitate like into society I
01:16:40Stephaniemaybe I'm using the term were you in prison for 10 years what no that's not what I'm saying what I'm saying is because I was not very socialized and so to me I don't have those um I'm not completely comfortable so I'm trying to
01:16:53Stephanielearn how to be more social wait okay a couple questions from what uh you were always homeschooled I was homeschooled in high school but before that like I did go to elementary school and middle
01:17:04Stephanieschool did you have friends while you were homeschooled yeah no when I was homeschooled not really cuz I would go to school like once every two weeks to a month and I would do my homework by myself like I wouldn't be at like it was
01:17:16Stephanielike I I taught myself did you go to college I went to college yeah four year or twoyear university two year did you have friends while you were in college I mean at the time like we knew people and
01:17:27Stephanieit was like an um how do you say like a an acquaintance more like a classmate but a friend like that has carried on it's not really something that has um
01:17:38Stephaniecontinued on and you only did two years of college um I'm currently like um like in school as well like I switched Majors you've been in school
01:17:49Stephaniecontinuously since you were 18 yes trying like I changed Majors discovering who I am taking care of of my parents so it's been it's been a lot like being in therapy as well to help me yeah like
01:18:00Stephaniekind of how long have you been discovering who you are um for sure a lot more heavily in therapy the past like year and a half what are you in therapy for um a lot of the grief that
01:18:11Stephaniecomes with um my day-to-day with my father he's currently on hospice and just the changes and um yeah just with myself and things that I've I have were you in how long have you been in therapy for
01:18:25Stephaniesorry um so therapy for me it's been almost two years a year and a half how long's he been in hospice for um my dad's he's on hospice since
01:18:36Brian Atlasthe beginning of the year okay but you said you were in therapy to deal with the him being in the hospice certainly that's a very difficult thing uh but you
01:18:47Stephaniewere in therapy prior to him entering hospice so what was the primary reason for going to therapy so I have like a lot of grief in regards to my dad my attachment to my dad and trying to
01:18:59Stephanieunderstand like um just like the reality of life and like what I thought like always being inside my parents house is a different um perspective and feeling versus being out in the world have you
01:19:09Stephanieever lived alone no out of the house no well I don't live with my parents but well in that instance yeah like renting a room yeah like renting oh you don't so you don't live with your parents no have you ever had housemates or yeah that's
01:19:22Stephaniewhat I was trying to say like a roommate yeah since and that was hard for me in the beginning like do you live alone now no I'm renting a room okay and you're
01:19:31Stephanieyou've been in and out of college since they pretty much 18 yeah okay and you've had jobs too no just working for my parents paid to get uh to take care of
01:19:42Stephaniemy parents you've never had like even a shortterm thing no no my parents are it's a full-time thing taking care of my dad as his disease has progressed and now there's another caregiver for him
01:19:53Andrew Wilsonwho works fulltime 40 hours a week for him on top of what I do so wait wait can uh do you mind if we back up just a just a little bit I'm kind of taking notes
01:20:03Stephaniehere um you you have never had a job is that what you said no just taking care of my parents I there was one time that I I was able to like work for the
01:20:14Stephanieveterans hospital like for like a month and that was it but other than that no so you've lived at home with your parents for your whole life no I don't live with my parents
01:20:25Andrew Wilsonokay when did that when did that change um probably around 19 years old like I 19 okay so how have you been affording to live on your own I get paid to take
01:20:36Andrew Wilsoncare of my parents by the state by the state yeah right yeah okay Goa so so you do have a job the state pays you and it hang on hang on I just want to make sure I got this right the state pays you in a
01:20:49Andrew Wilsoncaretaker position for your parents right exactly correct okay gotcha yes gotcha okay so and they've been paying you since you were 19 years old to do
01:20:59Andrew Wilsonthis yes since 18 okay oh since 18 okay gotcha all right I wanted to just kind of get that clarified real quick cuz I didn't understand how you lived no it's
01:21:11Andrew Wilsonokay um without without a job so the state the state allowed you to be a caretaker and has paid you since you were 18 years old to take care of your folks right yeah they have social workers that come out and evaluate
01:21:22Andrew Wilsoneverything and doctors and everything mhm now my understanding in these situations is that you can opt out and the state will still provide a caretaker yeah yeah um so then this was a choice
01:21:35Stephaniefor you to stay on as the caretaker right and that's where with therapy I'm learning that and my autonomy and my empowerment to make you know my own decisions and break away from this um I
01:21:46Stephaniethink that I was conditioned into this role and I didn't really understand that and realize that and so now like you're saying like I there could another caregiver in which there is who also
01:21:57Stephanieworks 40 hours a week and so now I'm kind of on my journey to figure out and create a new life for myself without my parents like in that sense yeah on your
01:22:08Stephaniejourney to figure this thing out yeah on my own like and so school and I'm more definite on my path as far as like my career path so I'm grateful for that yeah okay so um so you you chose to stay
01:22:20Andrew Wilsonon As a caretaker you were paid As a caretaker to take care of your father and have been even to right now right right the second yes okay gotta and you did choose to do that right yeah like realizing that it is a choice at first
01:22:34Stephanieit was just like I have to who else is going to do it it's my family it's my father how do I abandon my family like that's where my loyalties would lie but now understanding with therapy and like having um my rights as a person
01:22:46Stephaniereflected back to me right that wasn't reflected like when I was growing up so it's now I feel a lot more empowered to understand that look when I graduate and I you know I'm done there's going to be another like caregiver for right now
01:22:59Stephanielike I can maintain going to school in my position with my family with my parents okay I just wanted to make sure I had that clear as we uh as we go
01:23:08Brian Atlasforward in the conversation wait the is this uh this thought process here has this been sort of instilled In You by the therapist now yeah for her to
01:23:20Stephanierecognize that um like I am an autonomous person and not an extension of my family so cuz I'm very loyal to my family so what's wrong with that well
01:23:31Stephaniebecause it's I'm a lot of my attachment to like my family is like what am I going to do when they pass all I've known is taking care of my parents and so simultaneously trying to go to school
01:23:41Stephaniebut with my um the paths I was taking were not giving me like that definite courage or empowerment to break off yeah my for my own independence thank you yeah so what you're saying is is that
01:23:54Andrew Wilsonthat you've never had any other job or you've never done anything except this exactly your dad's going your dad's going to pass soon cuz he's in Hospice Care and you don't have any idea where your income's going to come from yeah so
01:24:05StephanieI'm I've been preparing for this but it's different now yeah mhm gotcha is the therapist free no I have insurance with my job yeah the insurance pays for
01:24:16Brian Atlasit huh interesting wait uh and you've been doing it since you were
01:24:25Stephanie18 um why well paid for it before are and was it a full-time job or full-time well it started off like as
01:24:38Stephaniethe progression of hours they started to see his um how do you say like his Parkinson's his physical it starts to deteriorate in his mind and stuff yeah so it progressively was increasing in
01:24:50Stephaniehour to the point now present time recently within the last 2 years years I was given extra time for him so I was able to hire extra help so now I can have days off which is you know I
01:25:01Stephanieunderstand like now I can have time to myself see who I am what I like to do and take myself out and stuff even alone
01:25:10Brian Atlasyou know okay all right okay um let's see if there's other notes Here uh let's
01:25:20Guests (mixed)see uh Sarah a guy called someone at the end of dinner and asked his mommy for $50 yeah I guess dating in Vegas is not as
01:25:31Guests (mixed)serious as everywhere else everybody else dates um yeah um unfortunately like that happens a lot like where people seem to
01:25:42Guests (mixed)need help or a mother more than a dating partner in the the city um but that your dating most of your dating is Vegas I live in Vegas now um I mve to Vegas
01:25:55Guests (mixed)after I separated from my husband so I've been there for8 years um and that is where I've tried to like re-enter the dating Market however I've kind of determined maybe it's very much environmental so my uh one of my
01:26:07Guests (mixed)children's a senior in high school this year so it may be my last year in Vegas we'll see well can I ask you just a quick question before Brian continues his inquiry yes so uh I've been to Vegas
01:26:18Andrew Wilsona few times um and I I'm I'm sure you've been to the casinos right they have good restaurants and things like this what do you think about the phenomenon of like
01:26:27Andrew Wilsonthese really old saggy cocktail waitresses um who who kind of like prop themselves up and this and that and they're clearly 50 but pretending to be 20 for like what do you think of that so
01:26:40Guests (mixed)um I actually worked at casinos for a while um in operational excellence and this was a topic so um personally um I like I'm of the position I think it
01:26:50Guests (mixed)should be an auditioned role um so I I'm a fan fan of talent cards I'm a fan of having um like actor profiles people have to meet like age height physical
01:27:02Guests (mixed)requirement um it's a very unioned environment though so that's where it gets very political so someone being being interested in politics is may be an interest for you but um that's my
01:27:12Guests (mixed)perspective is a very political um Union contract situation but I did work for a casino and a non-union casino and that's the um the way that we did it there with
01:27:22Guests (mixed)our cocktail servers you had audition for it um and there like you you had to meet stats you had to weigh in you had to do all that fun stuff and you and you did do that type of work um I was not a
01:27:34Guests (mixed)cocktail server except for um I did dress as a cocktail server and work with them to understand their job um but I was more the person interviewing or helping to identify talent for the floor
01:27:46Guests (mixed)or helping them like get drinks to you faster like that was my job get drinks to the players faster yeah yeah um can you move your mic to the edge of
01:27:57Brian Atlasthe table please yes I can uh you said uh so okay the guy called you at the end of dinner asked his mommy for $50 uh long story short you were at a
01:28:08Guests (mixed)trap house yeah so he um he actually he invited me down for an event um to come down with some of my art um so I did come down there invited me to dinner afterwards with like the whole group the
01:28:20Guests (mixed)festivities afterwards and that's where he started making all of his phone calls to his mother I'm like what is going on here um asked for a ride quick so like I took him we went inside and like next thing I know it's like a whole trap
01:28:31Guests (mixed)house like they're they're cutting lines um we weighing stuff out you know so it was not his actual mom um was I have no
01:28:41Guests (mixed)idea who he called um okay he called her mom though so may or may not have been his mother I I
01:28:49Brian Atlascannot cannot tell I did not trace the call all right um You said that uh it was probably the best dinner in movie you've had in the while and not
01:29:01Brian Atlasironically you met cool people there at the trap house who you stayed connected with but not the guy who asked you on on a date he was a train wreck that is correct yeah yep total train wre but
01:29:12Guests (mixed)probably needed my help more than anything um but there definitely were a lot of fun cool people that I met there how' you meet him what's that how' you meet him how um on social media so he
01:29:23Guests (mixed)actually added me on Facebook because of my art we chatted a little bit and then invited me to like a little popup event at a dispensary the the pop-up event at the dispensary was that the first day you
01:29:35TTS Readerguys went on the first time well I mean it wasn't like I didn't go with the intention of it GMD Jim donated $199 you taking care of widowed mother
01:29:46TTS Readerfor 28 years physically mentally emotionally and financially to tune of six plus figures a year it is blessing not curse your father was goat for
01:29:57Stephaniegiving you life at 54 would you like to respond I don't know what goat means greatest of all time no like with my father like it's not just about like the
01:30:08Stephaniepain that I feel like in grieving him like dayto day watching him deteriorate I also am grateful for him like I'm grateful to be alive and I love living life so I do have the duality of the experience for sure and I'm excited to
01:30:21Stephaniesee what kind of life I can create for myself so thank you
01:30:27Qmhm you want to continue with your story I don't know where I was oh you you was telling me how y'all met cuz um interestingly enough I hear a lot of y'all date men who are train wrecks and
01:30:37Qwho have all these issues and things and I'm wondering just how often that y'all talk and interact with these men before y'all actually get to know them and learn them I will be very honest with you I did not talk to him very much like
01:30:48Guests (mixed)I I went down there with the intent of bringing my art to the popup um and connected with him and the individuals he was with and agreed to continue to go
01:30:58Guests (mixed)out um beyond that like what we do see a lot in Vegas like if you do dating apps it's a lot of people visiting Vegas that are just looking for someone to go out for the evening I'm not really I would
01:31:10Guests (mixed)say like a relationship I'm more a relationship person I I'm not really like dating for me I'm like I would rather put a fork in my eye like it's like just so much time out of my week like with
01:31:21Qmy I know it's really dramatic of POR in my eye about um so I mean if you're relationship oriented then don't you think talking to him getting to know him a little bit more I I find it
01:31:34Qinteresting you said he was a train wreck like how long did you actually talk to him before you went out with him and discovered that he was a train wreck um I so again I he invited me out to bring my art to the PO so was that the
01:31:46TTS Readerfirst time yeah like that's when I met him and then he invited me like to continue with them like to dinner killer of
01:31:55TTS Reader$2 I call Mommy from when I'm out of Cal she always SS me just under the required amount I think she's teaching me a lesson maybe I should call her from her
01:32:07Brian Atlasbasement instead hey KB Cal thank you man good to seeing the chat thank you man did you have
01:32:18Guests (mixed)more no I agree with you I was like this isn't for me so like it's not it wasn't like a repeat thing for me by any means um beyond that it was just people looking for it just felt like more like
01:32:31Brian Atlasan escort for the night than actually dating which for me is not really the best use of my time I don't think you said uh also in your other notes uh you're curious what the others have to say and how they view things I'm always
01:32:42Brian Atlasgetting asked to pull cards on love and more often than not ancestors always say people are either your destiny or a lesson and I think we just have to to work through the lessons to
01:32:54Andrew Wilsonget to our Destinies so two things here you're a witch you're a witch um I mean I guess you could call me that if you wanted to but wit of course so artist
01:33:06Guests (mixed)what do you mean by pull cards so tarot cards so actually I have a deck of cards with my art so like I I do cards and I created cards and then what's the stuff about the ancestors what's that oh just
01:33:18Guests (mixed)like mediumship so like you're medium you want to talk to your grandma for example yeah wait what talking to ghosts you do that [ __ ]
01:33:28Andrew WilsonI can do that yes so um do you mind do you mind if I inquire just a just a slight bit you can ask anything I can't promise I know the
01:33:38Andrew Wilsonanswer but I'll do my best yeah as to the efficacy of the Witchcraft sure um do you have a spiritual guide of course that you refer to and does that
01:33:50Guests (mixed)spiritual guide have a name so I would say I typically use it's my vaser more than anything which is like an internal Compass um spiritual
01:34:01Guests (mixed)guide I have a close relationship with Jesus Christ so I always say Jesus is my homeboy um so like I I do have a close relationship with the guy who tells you not to do witchcraft you know I I think one would
01:34:14Guests (mixed)argue that he was pretty talented himself like in the Craft um no he didn't he didn't he didn't practice witchcraft the Bible's very specific about not practicing wichcraft right
01:34:25Guests (mixed)yeah I unfortunately was not alive at that time so I cannot State my experience but well I mean you weren't alive when Jesus Christ was around but you seem to concede that he
01:34:35Guests (mixed)existed I know the relationship I have with him today that's what I can speak to I thought that there were scriptures where I know I know hang on let us let us finish our combo please hang on I'll
01:34:46Andrew Wilsonlet you jump right in and uh and we can we can tangle on this but I'm not like a spell I myself I am Orthodox Christian
01:34:55Andrew Wilsonand I just want to let you know that unlike many Christians um not only do I not believe that witchcraft is real um as and I think many Christians do but I
01:35:08Andrew Wilsonthink that the efficacy of it meaning how effective it is I don't I think it's a con it's a complete con I don't think that um in any way shape or form it could ever be demonstrated and here I'm
01:35:19Andrew Wilsongoing to give you an example of why I think this why I'm skeptical of this mhm is this the first time that you've ever met Maddie met whom this Maddie would be the the gal sitting right there is this the
01:35:31Andrew Wilsonthe first time you've ever met her yes I've never met her okay how old is Maddie um Maddie how old are you no know how old hang on my question to you is
01:35:42Andrew Wilsonhow old is Maddie how old is she she's in her 20s right nope one's 18 how old now I got to ask you my next question is um are madd's parents together or not
01:35:53Guests (mixed)together so are you trying to like quiz me like a psychic is that what you're doing right now I guess I'm confused like what your I don't know person you have an internal guide and this internal guide gives you
01:36:06Guests (mixed)information about people's personal details correct um it can I mean there's other steps that go into that okay so the part of it that can can you give me any
01:36:18Guests (mixed)details about Maddie right this second which are not vague but are actually specific um that's not my craft but I hear you SAR is my craft so that's I just want to
01:36:30Andrew Wilsonlet you know that there's no craft in which anybody has ever been able to do this ever um and I'll tell you why I think that is now I think it's because it's all
01:36:43Andrew Wilson[ __ ] but I'm sure that other people would have other kind of reasonings behind it I just think that it's just completely fraudulent and untrue in every way uh and that's why no Psych nor
01:36:54Andrew Wilsonwitchcraft operator nor any any of these supposed spiritual gurus can actually give you any of these details but diving into the type that you do when you're doing tarot
01:37:04Andrew Wilsoncards uh is it safe to assume that tarot cards can lead to very vag answers which are designed in in what is called a cold reading the cold reading being that
01:37:15Guests (mixed)you're utilizing the tarot card in order to pump information out of the person therefore making it sound like it's more and more specific even though it's not not yeah and I think you also encounter that with Myers Brig I think you
01:37:27Guests (mixed)encounter that with astrology I think most of those things are pretty vague where it's easy to draw inferences from that um and again your definition of
01:37:39Guests (mixed)Witchcraft like when you ask me if I'm a witch and I'm like sure you can call me that again I I don't know that we're totally aligned and what that is and I'm not necessarily disagreeing from your perspective well can I give you my
01:37:51Andrew Wilsondefinition of a wisht yeah 100% yeah which is anybody who uses any type of the cosmos the thing the craft the energy the Jedi called it the force
01:38:01Andrew Wilsonwhatever you want to appeal to as the uh energies which are around in which you appeal to for answers to various questions and insights which you get
01:38:12Andrew Wilsonfrom some internalized feeling that would be witchcraft okay I can agree with that definition okay so that's when I say which that's what I'm referring to right
01:38:24Andrew Wilsonlike someone it doesn't matter if you're if you're doing a spell for instance if you're doing a spell you're appealing to some kind of energy if you're doing tarrow you're appealing to some kind of energy right there's something there which is guiding some kind of like
01:38:36Andrew Wilsoninternalized Compass so that you can have some answer to something right yeah so I'm just curious when you do tarot cards right mhm what types of
01:38:47Guests (mixed)results have you had um I usually use them for myself so like my preferred way to use them is like for daily affirmation so like I'll
01:38:58Guests (mixed)I'll shuffle them and pull one like just for myself to meditate on and kind of study for the day um and they're usually like some type of self-development kind
01:39:08Guests (mixed)of guide um that's that's the way that I use the tool um and there have been situations like I said where I've had people's like ancestors come in like
01:39:17Andrew Wilsoninterfere and I've had to like use cards and how do they how do they interfere by by the way before you answer that what type of deck do you use um I have my own cards that I use currently like made did
01:39:30Andrew Wilsondid you make them yourself yeah with my own artwork it's artwork that I created like over the course of four years did you model them off of another deck or model them off of a different style or model them off of something um it's like
01:39:42Andrew Wilsonthe standard uh rer weights here like the standard in major aana got you kind of like a duck up got you and you did you make them because you thought that they would have more efficacy if you did they would be more more powerful if you
01:39:54Guests (mixed)did no I just made them because it's something I always wanted to create like just something I always wanted to create it was it was one of the the things I put on my vision board like one day I
01:40:04Guests (mixed)want to make one of these so I did it mhm gotcha okay so you made them because it was fun essentially yeah I it was into it I thought it was cool yeah it's not something that I do for money it's
01:40:15Andrew Wilsonnot something that I do like by any means like that it's just something I thought it was cool I got into um I grew a lot I'm just I just want to move to the ancestors how do these
01:40:27Guests (mixed)ancestors disrupt the process uh disrup I mean I've had some interesting like uh Tech gets disrupted a lot so like a lot of Technology disruptions I've had um
01:40:38Guests (mixed)like things physically like fall off of shelves what sorts of uh technology interruptions um I mean I've had screens just go blue screen WiFi disconnection uh yeah yeah but I mean like it's hard
01:40:50Guests (mixed)to tell off Wi-Fi I mean again like you can't really prove it it it's just intuition like you have to go off of timing on what you feel and like what's going on in the environment um doesn't happen all the time but there happens
01:41:02Guests (mixed)situations where you get physical disruptions or like you hear something come through on music like um that's another one that happens a lot like music will Skip and jump like totally change genres like all of a sudden it's
01:41:13Andrew Wilsonepit Gerald is like I was not listening to her you know like totally switch from yeah you know well actually I do I do understand this phenomenon um I've uh I've run some experiments myself just because I think it's uh it's interesting
01:41:27Andrew Wilsonthat people move towards this type of phenomenon at all um now I haven't experimented with h with witchcraft or any of that uh my experiments are purely
01:41:37Andrew Wilsonthrough the investigatory but I'd like to ask you this this question and I ask kind of everybody who deals in occultism the same one and I'd like to ask it to you if you don't mind ask um if you were
01:41:49Andrew Wilsonto take three people and you were to walk them into a home which was very spooky a spooky looking home and he told them that an Axe Murderer lived in the
01:42:00Andrew Wilsonhome okay and he had um you know done horrible things to the people who were around him in this home and this and that and that they were going to spend a night there okay and you were going to pay them let's say
01:42:11Andrew Wilson$500 and then you took a family after them and you put them in that same home and you said this was my grandfather's home a very loving kind man who's still alive along with my grandma and raised
01:42:23Andrew Wilsonme in this home and it was a great loving environment and they stayed in that home those three people the same way uh which one do you think would be more likely to have had a spooky experience the next day if you had to guess if you had if you were in Vegas
01:42:36Andrew Wilsonand you were gambling and somebody gave you that exact hypothetical who would you guess the next day who would you put all of your money on that would have a spooky
01:42:46Guests (mixed)experience I miss part of it with the motorcycle going by but I'm guessing this is like a little bit of a leading the witness type situation so whomever you influence the most is I'm guessing
01:42:58Andrew Wilsonwhat your answer is cu I didn't hear it all yeah you so you think that if you say it's the axe murderer it's an axe murderer's house they would be far more likely to have the spooky experience than not no I'm saying I missed the last
01:43:11Andrew Wilsonhalf of what you were saying so I was apologizing okay so so here I'll just repeat it very very briefly very briefly if you were to take a family and say an Axe Murderer lived in this spooky house okay and then you took a separate family
01:43:23Andrew Wilsonand told them that uh your grandfather lived in the house and a loving family and you grew up there okay and they both stayed the night in the house which family do you think would be more likely to have a quote spooky experience 100%
01:43:35Guests (mixed)the first one because I think we both agree that it starts with your mind like it starts with your thoughts and what you're thinking so again that's where I go back to I use the cards more for like self-guided growth and it's about like
01:43:47Guests (mixed)learning to control your your mental like to shift it from a negative place to a positive I'm um I don't know that I necessarily maybe use it the way you're accustomed to but
01:43:58Andrew WilsonI I use it more as like a a personal Journey like a personal growth thing it's more private for me than it is um well I'm just I guess the reason I asked and I'll just end it with this so
01:44:09Andrew WilsonBrian can move the topic but um the reason that I ask is because if the answer to the question is the first right then couldn't you equally just be psyching yourself up to where you map
01:44:21Andrew Wilsonthese experiences which have very Comm explanations like Windows crashing for instance or book falling or any number of these different things uh which if they happened outside of this you playing with these cards you would brush
01:44:33Andrew Wilsonoff as being a normal experience but the second they happen in relationship to the cards now they're somehow Supernatural I wonder if uh you're not kind of playing into your own bias have
01:44:44Guests (mixed)you ever thought of that I think that's always a possibility 100% I think that's always a possibility and I think anyone um who explores anything of that needs to be very cognizant of that because you
01:44:56Guests (mixed)know I think um the risk is that a person can totally fall into delusion like doing those things I don't think we disagree on that at all um but again for me like maybe it is like I got into it
01:45:07Guests (mixed)more like investigative too like it was totally curiosity killed the cat situation with me like that's how I got into it um yeah I don't disagree I I don't think I don't think it's something
01:45:19Brian Atlaseverybody should necessarily jump into and do yeah gotcha all right thank you all right you said um actually let me do a couple Jets here we have uh Ana
01:45:32Anaare you able to see this Andrew comment the story in the OT when God commands Prophet Hosea to
01:45:41Anamarry a blank and she goes back to the BR brel and still God orders him to go after her how
01:45:50Anadoes it apply to this panel it doesn't apply to the
01:45:58Brian Atlaspanel like what are what are you talking about all right Brazilian thank you for the message um doesn't if you want to send in another one to clarify but it
01:46:09Brian Atlasdoes not sound like uh Andrew really has an answer for you given the way you asked it l paladins hey thank you man really appreciate it if a woman can't add simple numbers together nor remember
01:46:19Brian Atlaswhat year they were born on should they be allowed to vote well she's Mexican so she can't vote in the United States she can vote in Mexico though right you voted in yeah I was
01:46:30Anawarning Mexico thank you for the reminder appreciate that uh La paladins thank you man uh we have one more satanists believe that Jesus Christ it's
01:46:41Anaan effort to gain your trust like honey to a bear they lure you and cut you up and devour you all right Forum thank you
01:46:53TTS Readerappreciate it and then we oh killer of cereal coming in here in just a sec thank you killer killer of cereal donated $200 what was your most embarrassing
01:47:03TTS Readertarot card reading Q I know you have some stories to all what is your most embarrassing dating or carnal knowledge stories Brian and Andrew you got any
01:47:14Brian Atlasmore H most embarrassing we can do that we have another TTS coming in we'll we'll get to that in just a moment um thank you kill of Cal really appreciate it we have just Gerald hey thank you man
01:47:27TTS Readerreally appreciate just Gerald donated $200 good to see you man it's been I dated a girl who kept punching me in the face while I was driving she said it was cuz Mercury was in retrograde and we
01:47:38Brian Atlaswere entering Saturn's thirdd house and the moon was full Saturn's third house that's abuse Saturn's thirdd house that's crazy by the way apparently
01:47:49Andrew Wilsontwitch uh shout out twitch they gifted two subs about 20 minutes ago so I just wanted to uh it's the off there I still feel like we're a little far away I feel like it should be a sub for every episode considering how much money you
01:48:01Brian Atlasmake twitch I'm just saying I don't disagree with you Andrew but look you know the they probably have the the poor unpaid intern over there at
01:48:10Brian Atlastwitch it's they they got the the higher ups are like look you can only do like 101 15 here and there so I get it I get it uh so okay most embarrassing card
01:48:23Guests (mixed)reading if you want to give us a quick is there even one I don't know yeah I don't I don't know if there's necessarily an embarrass I mean I've had awkward ones for sure like where people like want a reading on somebody maybe
01:48:35Guests (mixed)they're in a relationship with and like they're the problem you know like that's okay so I would say like maybe awkward ones like that um sure but not necessarily embarrassing okay uh so going around the
01:48:47Brian Atlastable most embarrassing dating or hookup story starting with you go ahead um closer to the mic please sorry I was just thinking about
01:48:59Guests (mixed)it sorry do you have one um a small one I met a guy and um we were like on the
01:49:10Guests (mixed)same page and I thought he could be like a good friend to me and um we like didn't like I thought we wouldn't like so I met him before and then we had
01:49:22Guests (mixed)these like kind of date where I I thought we will just be friends and go out for lunch or dinner I don't know I remember and then uh he thought it's a
01:49:31Guests (mixed)date and then he was like the whole time talking about that it's a date and that his friends like where like prepared him
01:49:41Guests (mixed)for if she did this then it's a date if she says this then it's a date and then like the date was like the kind of date it turn turned to be a date and it was
01:49:52Guests (mixed)like very nice and like a very nice evening and we went to his place and he was like taking my clothes off I was like 10 years ago and he was taking my
01:50:03Guests (mixed)clothes off and he like I had a I was wearing a black bra and he was like okay my friend said if she's wearing matching underwear then it's a date and I was
01:50:15Guests (mixed)literally wearing like a black bra and a white panties and it was like like a very embarrassing part because I was like oh my God should I like just stop it to don't make it
01:50:30Guests (mixed)worse what the [ __ ] no much um so yeah okay all right uh what about you yeah I have one I just
01:50:42Guests (mixed)uh dating with one guy and I decide finish that relationship because still stay in bed I'm
01:50:49Guests (mixed)asleep and I feel he jerking up in bed you know and I wake up and I don't want
01:50:58Guests (mixed)to move because I saw he see the phone and I want to know why he he watch on the
01:51:07Guests (mixed)phone you know between he jerking off so and I'm I do very fast mood and I say what do you
01:51:17Guests (mixed)do and I saw he have the Imagine like say anime an anime imagine and they
01:51:27Guests (mixed)jerk came off and I say you are [ __ ] crazy and I leave him and I feel so bad super unrespectful because I'm there he
01:51:37Guests (mixed)can [ __ ] me if he want why jerking off next to me with that that imagine so I