RAGE QUIT?! HEATED Debate Over Being Submissive & Bowing?! 2 VlRGlNS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #167

Date: 2024-06-05

Duration: 6h 59m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAngelic (DT193)>

AAmy (Mochi Toki DT167)>

JJordan (DT167)>

JJasmine (DT167)>

TTurkish (DT201)>

MMaddie (DT167)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Q (The Q Pill)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bri (partial)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Kate(guest)

SPEAKER_13Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens Dating Talk #167. 9 female guests (Angelic returning; Bri, Amy, Kate, Jordan, Jasmine, Turkish, Veta, Maddie new). Co-host: Q. Two virgins on panel (Bri confirmed; possibly one other). Title references heated bowing debate and 'rage quit'.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”

QuoteBri (22, dog breeder, Fresno) disclosed as having never been in a relationship, never kissed anyone, no dates, no dating apps. Brian confirms she's a virgin waiting for marriage. Christian. Identified as one of the '2 VlRGlNS' in the episode title.

“I never been in any kind of relationship have you been on a date no Have You Been Kissed no oh you first”

QuoteTurkish (24, just arrived from Sydney 4 days ago) introduces herself as the online persona 'Turkish Delight'; on-air name shortened to D or TD. First time in the US. Plans to pursue content creation.

“hi my online name is Turkish delight but um you can call me D I am 24 I live in Australia Sydney but I moved here like 4 days ago to pursue content”

QuoteMaddie (Vancouver, 25) discloses prior 4-year relationship ended by her ex due to both struggling with substance abuse (LSD, mushrooms). She is grateful he ended things when he did.

“I um why yeah we were both honestly struggling with like substance abuse things... I'm very grateful that he was able to end things because it was probably the best thing”

QuoteBrian plays the bowing video and states he requires a woman willing to bow on a first date as a test of submissiveness and playfulness. This triggers the episode's central ~1.5-hour debate.

“she's got to be down to Bow like first date just hit me with a bow oh doesn't and it's like not for McDonald's yeah what some effort and then we'll talk”

ControversyMaddie (30, finance) confronts Brian on bowing: argues it's prideful, selfish, only about making the man feel better rather than bringing love into the relationship. She says it's a slippery slope. Brian counters that Maddie tested it inorganically by forewarning her husband — naturally desired bowing is different.

“the Bowing is crazy Brian why tell me why tell me why why do you why do you want somebody to Bow so”

QuoteJasmine (married) reveals she went home after a prior episode, told her husband about the bowing video, and tried bowing to him. He felt so weird he said 'don't ever do that again.' Brian argues this was inorganic because her husband doesn't desire it naturally.

“the first night that I did the podcast and he saw the Bowing video I told my husband about it and then we were acting it out together and I bowed to him and he felt so weird”

QuoteAngelic recounts moving to New Zealand at 19 for a boyfriend; they broke up 2 months after she arrived during COVID. She was stuck there for 1 year, couldn't travel or even see the country.

“I moved all the way to New Zealand for my boyfriend at the time... Co happened when I got there and we never really got to see each other and then we ended up breaking up literally 2 months into me moving over there”

QuoteTurkish (24) recounts a scary bad date in Australia: a man said ice cream was '5 minutes away' but drove her 2 hours to an abandoned forest. He became angry when she said she wouldn't go on a second date; she lied to defuse the situation. He then continued driving while she was still getting out of the car.

“we got in his car and as we were driving it was like 5 minutes past and we were going nowhere in the direction of the ice cream place... it was two hours we're in the car”

QuoteSelf-ratings round: Angelic reveals she was dragged for rating herself a 4 on her prior appearance; she has worked on her confidence and now rates herself a 6.

“okay well last time I was on here I got dragged for rating myself a four but I have been working on my confidence over the past year and so it's something that I've been putting a lot of effort into so I would say now maybe like a six”

QuoteBody count round initiated by Maddie (Vancouver). Angelic states 7. Bri (virgin) states 0. Others decline. Maddie herself declines citing respect for future husband.

“what's everyone's body count starting with you she really wants to know... seven zero seven”

Topics Discussed

Stream intro and guest introductions

Brian Atlas opens show with standard announcements. 9 female guests introduce themselves: Angelic (23, LA, Twitch/music, returning), Bri (22, Fresno, dog breeder), Amy/Mochi Toki (24, OC, content creator), Kate (23, Fresno, server), Jordan (25, Riverside, gym owner, married), Jasmine (27, LA, actress/model, married), Turkish/D/TD (24, Sydney, content creator, just arrived in US), Veta (30, tax office admin), Maddie (25, Vancouver, finance). Co-host: Q (31, relationship coach/behavioral scientist).

Relationship status round

Brian goes around the table asking relationship status, length of singledom, longest relationship. Highlights: Bri is 22 and virgin/never been in a relationship; Angelic single 2.5yr; Amy in a talking stage (Hinge, first date Friday); Kate's 2.5yr situationship without labels; Jordan and Jasmine both married; Turkish 3yr single (substance abuse breakup); Veta in rocky 3yr relationship (bf drinking problem); Maddie single 3yr (ex dumped her, substance abuse issues). Q is single and chilling.

BLM / Big Labia Matter and oral sex debate

Brian's non-profit 'Big Labia Matter' introduced. Guest challenges the logic of preferring large labia without performing oral sex. Brian explains sexual boundaries for men. Discusses labia plasty (10,000/yr in US), infections and sensation loss. Brian claims to prefer outies and advocates against labia plasty as feminist/body-positive stance.

Height preferences and dating requirements

Panel goes around sharing heights and height requirements for dating. Heights: Angelic 4'11" (max 6'4"); Bri 5'8" (no hard min, prefers taller); Amy 5'2" (min 5'9", max 6'3"); Kate 5'10" (never talked to males under 5'11"); Jordan 5'8" (husband 6'2"); Turkish 5'6" (no height preference); Maddie 5'4" (no dealbreaker). Brian says no height preference; dated women from 5' to 6'5".

Makeup, natural beauty, and plastic surgery debate

Brian's coup d'état policy: ban cosmetics and plastic surgery (fake breasts = felony, BBL = death penalty, lip filler = misdemeanor). Guests push back. Jasmine mentions her own enhancements are real. Discussion of beauty standards being driven by men vs. women. Q argues men don't actively monitor how much makeup women wear. Brian distinguishes grooming (acceptable) from artificial augmentation (not).

Bowing and submission debate

Central debate of the episode (~1.5 hours). Brian plays a video of a woman bowing to him in his penthouse and says he requires a woman to be willing to bow. Maddie (30, finance) objects: it's prideful and selfish, slippery slope to unhealthy dynamics. Jasmine reveals she tested bowing with her husband; he felt weird and asked her never to do it again. Brian argues the bow is a gesture of submissive playfulness and willingness, not a dark ritual. Q defends bowing as reciprocity given men's financial/protective role. Discussion of Asian bowing cultures vs. Western context. Multiple female guests object to the 'dark' nature of the requirement.

Brian's ideal partner requirements

Brian reads from his notes: shy/nerdy/introverted, modest (personality and appearance), no big ego, doesn't party/drink/do drugs/go to bars, low body count, no past promiscuity, undivided attention, praise kink, down for back scratches and massages, helps him in his mission. Must bow on first date.

Chivalry origins and bullet-taking debate

Q explains historical origin of chivalry as knights in 12th-16th century France wooing women via subservience. Brian debates whether women deserve chivalry without offering reciprocity. Debate over whether women want men to take a bullet for them (most say yes if they'd reciprocate). Brian's stance: he would not take a bullet for a random woman.

AI girlfriend discussion

Brian shows AI-generated audio of a girlfriend voice. Discussion of AI boyfriends/girlfriends as virtual relationships. Brian argues AI girlfriend is preferable to paying OnlyFans creators who are just talking to a bot. All guests express reluctance to date an AI or use a sex robot. Q and Brian debate future of AI companionship.

Man vs. bear debate

Brian poses the viral 'would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods' question. Most women choose the bear. Extended debate about male violence statistics, whether fear is rational or signaling, and the inconsistency of choosing bear but going home with strangers. Q notes perpetrators are usually known persons, not random strangers. Maddie and others defend the choice on grounds of predictable outcome (bear = death; man = unknown). Amy notes 50/50 odds of being victimized by a man.

Self-ratings round

Brian asks guests to rate their looks 1-10 (prompted by Stiffler TTS). Ratings: Angelic=6 (was 4 on prior appearance), several others between 5-9, Maddie=6.5 (after long philosophical objection), Brian=5. One guest initially said 10 then walked back to 7. Discussion of objectivity vs. subjectivity of beauty. Brian shows Luis Guzman vs. Francisco Lachowski comparison — all guests pick Lachowski, supporting objectivity argument.

Racism debate — can you be racist toward white people

Maddie asks panel: can you be racist toward white people? Angelic: yes. Amy: initially no (uses 'prejudice plus power' definition), but concedes after Brian's argument. Brian argues that racism = thinking you're superior to another race; therefore anyone can be racist toward anyone. Discussion of systemic oppression, Asian women out-earning white men, and Ivy League admission discrimination against Asians (Harvard lawsuit).

Body count round

Maddie (Vancouver) asks each guest their body count. Angelic: 7. Bri: 0 (virgin). Amy and others decline. Maddie declines citing respect for future husband. Kate declines. Turkish declines. Discussion of why women decline vs. Brian's philosophy that body count matters in assessing promiscuity.

Bumble swipe game

Guests go through Bumble profiles, each getting 20 swipes on-screen. Discussion of age preferences (Angelic 20-25 reluctantly; others vary). Brian and guests comment on profiles. TTS donations color the segment. Brian does his own swipes and explains reasoning.

Stream close

Final TTS donations read. Brian thanks chat. Plugs Twitch, Discord, merch. Outro. Total duration ~7 hours.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswoman like at what point are you drawing the line but you answered it oh yeah no so grooming definitely prefer shaved legs shav shaved uh

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)armpits um as long as your stance is that like you know that's what you prefer not that all women shouldn't wear makeup then that's

Brian Atlastotally fine well hold on unless hold on so well here's my crazy take so let's say somehow I I did a coup d'a and I took

Brian Atlasover the federal government let me tell you my policy prescriptions on Cosmetics first off I would outright ban Cosmetics uh I would actually uh ban plastic surgery too

Brian Atlasunless there was uh a medically indicated reason for it for example uh fake titties boom straight to jail surgeon felony also if you're a woman and you

Brian Atlasget fake titties felony if you're a man and you get fake titties also felony so just a felony across the board if you get fake titties BBL I'm

Brian Atlasconsidering death sentence on the I'm on the fence death sentence like 10 years in prison for BBL uh lip filler

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)misdemeanor one year in prison it's basically all plastic surgeons don't have a job anymore I have no problem with that okay do you work for a plastic surgeon or

Brian Atlassomething no I own a gym well actually they wouldn't be out of a job necessarily people change their bodies the right way cuz for example the origin of one the body positivity movement was

Brian Atlasfor people who had like disfigurements uh and the origin of plastic surgery was typically like if somebody had like they got half their face blown off in World War I the surgeon would you know to move

Brian Atlasthrough life with like a totally disfigured and disformed face would create like a uh a difficulty a burden in your life and so they would attempt to fix the face or like a

Brian Atlasrhinoplastic indicated scenarios where I think plastic surgery is okay I can't think of like really a scenario where if I grant for example that I'm

Brian Atlasfine with women for example who have breast cancer and need to have a breast removed if I'm fine with uh a breast implant in that scenario but I'm against these scenarios

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)where it's like purely cosmetic would you would you agree with me there sure um

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)now what about women who have already had augmentation would you have them then take them out out they

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)go can I weigh in sure go ahead um just for the viewers at home my are Rio and I'm not included in this conversation she

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)this okay uh people always assume which I'm like they don't look unfortunately and they look they look

Brian Atlasreal that's what I'm saying um they look real thank you yeah but bbl's there's never a reason go I can't anybody here have a BBL ban it ban

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)bbls right you agree with me am Amy right name's Amy yeah you agree with me right I'm Banning BBL no like death penalty for BBL right no not the death penalty death penalty for BBL death

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)penalty for right I feel like everybody has their insecurities you know and if it helps them feel better then they should do it I don't think we need to fix our

Brian Atlasinsecurities wait would cosmetically wouldn't the fix be to just not get the BBL and work through your mental problems maybe do some hip thrust and yeah you can like with the look boobs

Brian Atlasyou can't really get boobs but like precisely but people have different genetics it can be harder easier to gain muscle but like you can work out you know you can get a nice butt can work up to your

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)genetic potential I think we just got to fix Society standards for women yeah a lot of what we look up to are like the like for example like you've talked about like the most

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)beautiful woman when you've had us like raid ourselves like okay Victoria Secret models like the 10 right but like they all wear makeup and you know do all these cosmetic things and I think men

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)are a big part of the reason why women wear makeup because men are the ones who have like idolized these Beauty standards for us to live up to are you sure about that is it women who notice

Brian Atlasother women like for example who everybody here show us your nails who here has fake fake nails on Not Me nails any fake nails nails my nerv real just grown out those are real yeah I just

Brian Atlashave really well you put uh paint on you have nail polish uh Nails Nails let me give you guys a secret guys don't give a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] about your nails don't care you do that for yourself or for other women don't care no guy gives up you think a guy's like well I wasn't going to [ __ ] her but she has [ __ ] nails now I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to [ __ ] her because her nails are pink well we didn't say that was contingent on also hygienically it's kind of disgusting sorry it's true and it rips off your

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)natural nails you keep the the bacteria under the nails mhm just saying mhm yep but do you think they push on your

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)to you think nail polish and fake nails is a male imposed Beauty standard no but I think I think especially like a lot of men who like look at these models and

Q (The Q Pill)stuff and think they're pretty like all of those girls are wearing makeup but you'll be shocked to know that a lot of men don't even realize how much makeup women have on like that's not something that we actively monitor

Q (The Q Pill)when we see a woman we not like oh she got on this she got got on mascara she got on whatever see I don't even know how much [ __ ] the name cuz but we can't tell the difference actually we don't really pay attention don't really know

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)you don't really know what she's wearing but you just you don't know what she's wearing but yet you're saying don't wear it even though you don't even know what we know when it come off we like what the

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)[ __ ] but see that's that's the line that I was trying to draw last time is you can do your makeup without dramatically changing how you look

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)you can do it just to compliment your features yeah you can do minimal makeup I showed you the first time I took my

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)makeup off I looked the same e did you though huh did you though I did did you though I

Q (The Q Pill)did well look uh wait so what's the argument that is our fault that they wear makeup but it's not it's intersection I'm saying you take a part in it you do Take A Part in

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)it h honestly a lot of times I think I feel more insecure around other women that I know will be coming to events that I'm going to and I know that they're going to a professional makeup

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)artist and I don't necessarily prefer to always get my makeup done and so I know I need to perform my best for them not necessarily for some guy that might be there or even my boyfriend cuz he

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)actually prefers me without makeup so does mine like your husband yeah bingo I don't know I preferred no makeup sure I mean if she's like really pretty

Brian Atlaswithout it sure there's no need to I can do without I can do with it doesn't matter to me truly well if she was not really pretty without it wouldn't it be better for her to just not wear it if

Brian Atlasshe was for being for honesty reason she like she's catfishing at that point if she's not pretty without it well cuz you're you're what you're setting up here is she's pretty with makeup I don't think it's doing much's not pretty

Brian Atlaswithout it it's not doing any harm to you she's doing she you're robbing well okay on a long enough timeline not even letting me finish my point well okay finish your point thank you I didn't even finish my sentence go ahead goe she's she's doing it to feel confident

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)and to feel beautiful and you should just let her do that you have the standard of don't wear any makeup so just don't dat the woman that wear a [ __ ] ton of makeup problem solved okay so question that's fine that's fine she she's doing it to feel beautiful and

Q (The Q Pill)confident confident relative helping her it doesn't M it's not about you it's not about you but I'm saying relative to who though who is how would she know what being more beautiful looks like if she

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)didn't compare herself to other women well we have Role Models like our mom we grew up wearing makeup you know we watched our moms wear makeup we put makeup on our baby dolls I mean it's a

Brian Atlaspart of just our our childhood and then it you know grows into adulthood the propaganda has worked well I agree with her that that there

Brian Atlasare societal standards and that you've basically been forced fed a mind virus to feel like you're not enough without the paint you're not beautiful without

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)the paint you're not beautiful without some fake uh lash I agree there's a lot of propaganda and you know there's constantly you go to like any store like TJ Maxx like the counters are full of things that can make you look better

Brian Atlashere here's what's crazy to me right as a man I can sit here and say I prefer woman without makeup I think women should wear less makeup and that's me essentially saying I think women are

Brian Atlasbeautiful and attractive as is which I think is doing ought to do be a a more proman position than what what these cosmetic Industries

Brian Atlashow they profit by keeping you feeling insecure so I it's interesting though the amount of push back women get or excuse me not the push back women the push back women give if a man has like

Brian Atlasan anti-m makeup position because the anti- makeup position in my estimation is actually a pro-woman position we're trying to free you of the slavery in your

Brian Atlasmind well that some God damn I'm on fire okay sorry they're like shut the [ __ ] up so

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)inspired um no I think if a woman has push back on your on you not wanting to date her because she does not agree with

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)um your stance on makeup then I I don't agree with that I think you should have whatever preference you want mhm but I

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)think if your stance is so far as all women shouldn't wear makeup anymore number one I don't think that's ever going to happen it's if we're being

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)real and number two I don't I don't think that's that's good for us because sure makeup might add a little bit of confidence to how we present ourselves it's like the saying look good feel good

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)you know if we feel like we look good then you know we kind of have this like outward positive attitude in the day too like sometimes if I just do a little bit of makeup I'm like oh my God I feel so

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)good today like my positive my attitude is just everything is elevated mhm can I ask something sure if makeup just didn't exist though like nobody was

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)wearing makeup if it never existed then yeah it wouldn't like would you feel the need to like get an extra confidence boost cuz we probably wouldn't why wouldn't no cuz like I live in the world

Q (The Q Pill)of makeup so I wouldn't I guess that's a hypothetical um reality so I guess I would feeline if it never existed then I I think the pressures would would cease to exist because then you wouldn't be

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)seeing it in magazines and on TV and on social media Secret models would not have makeup and then I wouldn't you know feel like oh you know like that sorry would you like not think that the world

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)might be a better place honestly like for us I think if if we never ever had makeup ever or if it just got like wiped out we like all

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)agreed we're like we're going to stop wasting hundreds of dollars and spending so much time and trying to like yeah just waste so many resources trying to

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)like feed into this propaganda don't you think like honestly the world would be better life would be better oh yeah we can put more emphasis on like skin care

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)and way better things for us mhm real word word your makeup is only as good as

Brian Atlasyour skincare let's get into skincare but I mean so who did it I mean my position is it's

Brian Atlaslike so your suggestion is well it's fine if you want to just date women who don't wear makeup or wear minimal makeup and that's fine but I'm actually trying

Brian Atlasto do something a little bit more powerful I was asking like CU I'm actually trying I'm trying well okay I mean I'm obviously joking around because I'm not going to get I don't suspect

Brian AtlasI'll get any political power in this life but uh what I am trying to sort of argue at least to the audience I do have uh is I am trying to put a message out there one if there's any women watching

Brian Atlasany woman at this or even women at this panel uh there are plenty of men who will date you regardless of the paint that you put on your face MH and I would actually argue the man who's more

Brian Atlasinclined to date you without makeup is probably a better bet long term than the guy who has a bit more of a hyperfocus on your uh uh your exterior I mean

Brian Atlasobviously looks are important right but if a guy likes you without makeup I mean that's that's a better bet he's proba he's more physically attracted to you mhm and

Brian Atlasuh yeah also then we get into the like okay when does it become catfishing when are you misrepresenting your physical appearance I think every dating profile you should

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)have a picture no filter no makeup most women don't that should be the standard then can I weigh in on this yeah I agree with you I was wearing fake eyelashes to

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)get my like clear pass at like the airport you know it's kind of like um and it doesn't even recognizing me just cuz I had on like fake all eyelashes and so I can only use my fingers okay now I

Brian Atlasdon't know I always think that's really funny so you're getting your clear past picture don't we think I think that one of the things when it comes to the cat fishing argument is that by wearing makeup you're kind of depriving men of

Brian Atlasmaking an informed decision about your true attractiveness mhm it's kind of like trying to think of an example like the guy who lied about his height would

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)you have gone on that first date with him had you no I would have never cuz he would have never even showed up in my possible matches because of high preferences so he had a lie just for him

Brian Atlasto get to be on my radar uh but objectively I think I I mean while you ended up in a relationship with him I think objectively we can say that misrepresenting or lying about something

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)like that is wrong oh yeah now perhaps it worked out he maybe fessed up to the lie and well he had to he got out of the car and he wasn't taller than me well he was taller than me but not like as much

Brian Atlasas he should have been I guess the functional equivalent here because I don't even think a man is a man's height equivalent to makeup no no like in terms of like the

Brian Atlasdifferential it'll make in term in attraction uh I would say makeup is the functional equivalent of a man who works at McDonald's saying that he's a lawyer but he's

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)not that's extreme thoughts thoughts that's pretty extrem Amy agrees with me right I might say I might say the male equivalent would be your facial hair cuz

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)it could make you look 50 or 15 what no no can I weigh in so the guy at McDonald's saying he's a lawyer is just straight up delusional just

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)straight up in la la land and the girl who's catfishing you with her makeup at least she's able to make it happen at least she's able to give you that facade and

Brian Atlasillusion what do you mean I could rent a nice car and put on a suit and say not with a McDonald's like paycheck you're not going to be able to Rent All all that no you could you could put on the

Brian Atlasfacade actually a lot of guys do this they'll put on the facade that they're [ __ ] ballers they don't have to say they're a lawyer but a lot of guys do this I won't like I won't argue with you

Brian Atlason that no you can you can argue it's okay it's okay to disagree no but men do that so they do LIE there's such different intentions for why or why not a guy who works at McDonald's could

Brian Atlasabsolutely like get a nice suit or something and uh rent a decent car for a day for the date guys do that I don't agree with it

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)I think it's wrong but how would he get the second date would he have time to he gets what he wants huh what's that um I said would he be able to save up enough for the second date in time to keep that

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)lie going I don't know about the logistics of getting into the semantics of it he got the first one so he's starting somewhere but uh I think that would be the functional

Brian Atlasequivalent so you want to just ban makeup if I if I'm going to get 0% of the female vote if if I came into Power [ __ ] the [ __ ] the vote I'm just going to

Brian Atlasdo a coup day toss on do you know what a coup day is I don't know what that is you don't know the coup d' no it's uh you basically you violently overthrow

Brian Atlasthe government you you basically yeah so I'm by the way uh FBI uh uh FBI DHS I'm kidding I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna do about be on the list next I'm on the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] list I'm kidding I have no intentions of doing a coup d' um if I did though makeup for [ __ ] banned fake fake titties banned BBL banned lip such

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)way bigger issues but okay I'm in favor there's way bigger issues to address it's a pretty big one well you know what though I'd rather be with a

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)guy who prefers me without makeup than like he only want to be with me if I have makeup on because then he doesn't really like how I look he only prefers me with what if he did that you guys

Brian Atlasever seen somebody do that like that little like you know that slight vomit thing like what if he saw you without makeup gag he did the little gag little

Brian Atlaslike gag can you do that again just keep doing it just keep doing it I'm good I'm at clip that I'll actually

Brian Atlasprobably yeah it's live word uh I'm trying to let me go through some of yeah go to Twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drops a follow drops

Brian Atlasa prime sub if you have one do you want me to get oh guys it's been 22 minutes since we've had a prime I think it's bugged guys I think it

Brian Atlasis I think it's bugged guys I don't know our twitch is [ __ ] up can somebody test out and see if a prime is working I don't know I need to contact twitch

Brian Atlassupport I don't know what's happening here yo cheat code thank you for the follow rockefella thank you for the follow subgraph thank you oh Kronos

Brian Atlasthank you thank you appreciate it uh that should be fine okay thank you guys appreciate it see how I stiff on now we have a chat here Angelic can I have you read this one that's about to

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)come through Jordan what workouts does your gym provide pressing against the patriarchy repping your SAS deadlift in

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)delusions your language Poli policing and coping is annoying to Rocky Peaks great stage name wait who's

Brian AtlasRocky coping what is he talking about thank you for the gifted sub

Brian Atlasyouting moving on oh okay I thought you were I was waiting for the question I was waiting for you to respond uh all right I answered in the same nature that it was asked all right so what I want to get

Brian Atlasinto before we get into our main topic of the show today I want to ask and I think an interesting thing uh me and Q can do we'll tell you guys about our standards and boundaries and preferences

Brian Atlaswhat we want in a girl and you can tell us if you object to any and that would make for an interesting conversation Kier you go ahead I got a I got a list just like you do you want to read it I

Brian Atlasgot to get it ready so you go first oh you got okay well I got a list too hold on let me pull my [ __ ] up all right here it goes okay any Ras is fine wait what is he going to do what oh so okay so here's what we're doing you guys listen be

Brian Atlasattentive me and Q we're going to tell you what we're looking for in a girl and you guys can be like that's delusional I disagree you're a piece of

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you're a misogynist BL blah blah whatever whatever it is okay so I'll start and I've written it down to

Brian Atlaskeep it simple and brief not brief but you know any race is fine any race is fine but slight preference for white women and Asian women I'll date I'll

Brian Atlasdate a Latina I'll date a black girl I'll I'll date an in in uh wait hold on wait don't don't tell me hold on an Aboriginal I'll date an Aboriginal

Brian AtlasI'll date you think I'm Aboriginal do you think I'm Aboriginal no but you're from Australia okay I'll date I'll date

Brian Atlasa an Indian I'll date um uh what are the other European Arab uh Arabic Arab Middle Eastern Middle

TTS/Chat readerEastern whatever I'll date Family Guy simpa donated $200 Jillian the chat wants to know how you managed to get Jillian on the show she

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Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)yourself um this is chartreuse not yellow shart chartreuse sh truce thank you for clarifying us we we've all been wondering I know it's really good on my

Brian Atlasskin tone like what color I wear plad uh let's see what else uh I think I already went over some of this stuff slight preference for like short women but I'll date a girl who's 5'2 I'll date

Brian Atlasa girl who's or well a 65 I'll date a girl who's 4 seven uh let's see Natural Body supremacist we we've also kind of talked about that obviously care about

Brian Atlashygiene and grooming but uh massive preference for no plastic surgery no fake tits no fake lips no BBL no lipo no labioplasty of course uh and I here let me let me

Brian Atlasexplain this a little bit to you guys cuz some of you think well Brian would you prefer a girl with perfect fake HTS or a girl who's flat I'd prefer flat i' prefer flat over fake titties I'd prefer

Brian Atlaslittle belly over lipo belly I prefer no ass or small ass over BBL i' prefer a small upper lip over lip fillers uh you can basically take any woman with any of

Brian Atlasthese procedures however they were before I'd prefer them as they were uh let's see what else um no makeup already minimal no makeup

Brian Atlasalready talked about that uh I like a girl who's done at least three years of cello that's important I'll accept VI Viola or violin but like

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)it's preferably cello why that's very do you have cello experience no I play the violin and guitar and Yul but why cello

Brian Atlasspecifically do you want [Music] to it she said j a bro yeah yeah of

Brian Atlascourse um she does play VN though okay anyways uh no I'm kidding about that I don't really care um what else I'm not really I'm not a boob guy I'm not really an ass guy I'm

Brian Atlasmore of a labia guy we already talked about that though uh are they all physical hold I'm starting with physical then I'm going to I'm starting with physical starting with physical he's a

Brian Atlasguy I mean I prefer dark hair uh let's see uh

Brian Atlasuh I like is this still is bowing she bows is that part of phys that's more personality though that's more like yeah that's that's get that's agreeableness

Brian Atlasuh it's and then like this might I don't know if this is TMI like those of you who are virgins like just earmuff really quick earm muff please ear muff yeah uh so I prefer a

Brian Atlasgirl who uh actually I shouldn't say that I don't know never mind well now you have to they're already R not even I don't even care about this really I just

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)cuz it's f go back go back say it I like girls who say it you know you want to come easily and have multiple

Brian Atlasdo you're good is it done I don't know some of these rules it's just too much work my [ __ ] I get carpal Tong syndrome I'm just my hands all [ __ ] up

Brian Atlaslock jaw maybe have to try hold on I don't do that [ __ ] okay come on be be one of those like stress balls you can like work your joints and yeah I don't know man anyways uh okay so personality

Brian Atlaswise can you pull up the video Nick the Bowing video this will this will get segue to the personality stuff yeah go ahead all right play that [ __ ] boom did

Brian Atlasyou see that bow look at this and look how attentive she is right waiting for me in my penthouse

Brian Atlasapartment attentive doing my laundry dinner's ready running around you know get she's getting me a

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Brian Atlasera soft soft guy summer we up yo be in cheeks good to see you in the chat man it's been a while drizzle drizzle dude um play the bow really quick one more

Brian Atlastime boom she's got to be down to Bow like first date just hit me with a

Brian Atlasbow oh doesn't and it's like not for McDonald's yeah what some effort and then we'll talk uh so yeah she's got to be willing to Bow uh let's see what else personality

Brian Atlasokay here we go I'll just blast the personality uh moderate preference for introverted women quiet calm soft spoken slightly endearingly awkward is cool I guess a little bit shy a little bit

Brian Atlasnerdy uh and actually once like a shy introverted person gets comfortable around you they their person personality does tend to Blossom modesty is huge

Brian Atlasboth in personality and appearance uh I don't like big egos super vain Diva [ __ ] brings me peace doesn't quarrel doesn't party doesn't

Brian Atlasdrink doesn't do drugs doesn't go to bars or clubs low body count no current or past promiscuity undivided romantic and sexual attention the earlier the

Brian Atlasbetter I wrote down has a praise Kink I don't know okay a girl who helps me in my mission someone who's attentive and really the big thing though is if you're just down to like

Brian Atlasnon-stop back scratches and massages boom you got me easy easy and that's pretty much

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)hit any objections there the Bowing is crazy Brian why tell me why tell me why why do you why do you want somebody to Bow so

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)badly what do you mean cuz I know it's going to come back to the topic of submission wait speak straight into the mic but go ahead I know it's going to come back to the topic of submission and that is submission comes straight from

Brian Atlasthe Bible the Bible I I wouldn't look at this from a religious perspective I would look at this from a uh secular perspective but then where do you get submission from yeah that's it's in it's

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)in nature you can I mean submission is in nature you yeah where where in nature in in M million species you don't think that there's submissive atheist women I'm sure there is but I think it

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)is in more times than not very harmful because it's coming from a very very selfish prideful and just like across the word harmful like on the woman's

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)part or the man's part on the man's part to desire a submissive woman to a woman bowing for you

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)is harmful submission submission should be articulate how it's harmful it's prideful on the man's part how's it prideful it's selfish how is it selfish why do you want her to bow for you exp

Brian Atlasfirst explain to me answer my question first how is it harmful or what was the other word you used harmful or did you what not self pride prideful selfish how is it selfish on the man's part how's it

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)harmful to the woman because are you thinking about her experience or are you thinking about your experience I I don't I don't really understand your argument but how is it harmful

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)because that's not going to be it's not loving how is it not loving because you're considering only your experience and it's feeding your ego having

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)somebody can I ask something it for sure would it for sure would Brian having somebody bow for you would not feed your ego and make you feel more powerful it

Brian Atlaswouldn't make me feel more powerful just make you feel respected but how is it okay so let's remove the my my side from this how is it harmful

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)to the woman articulate that because it's this no go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead make your argument

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)please let me think it's like a weird power Dynamic that is I'm all for let me ask a question do you want a guy to open the car door for

Brian Atlasyou on a date yeah wow that's really harmful to the man that's a weird power power Dynamic that you want that you insist a man open a car door for you when you have agency and you you have

Brian Atlasthe strength to open a car door articulate to me why you want a man to open the car door for you because it goes back further than just like cars are are a recent

Brian Atlasinvention of modernity they've been around for like a 100 years goes back to when the caveman days well obviously not okay so there's no evolutionary basis for a woman Desiring

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)a man to open the car door so explain to me why did originate for like safety reasons protecting protecting the woman no I actually do she's going to blow out her shoulder opening the car door don't

Q (The Q Pill)think so don't think so do you know the history of chivalry uh some some it's basically wool woman that you couldn't get that wasn't attracted to you so you basically

Q (The Q Pill)tried to make her attracted to you by being subservient I think that's very secular very secular no that's that's the no that's the actual history from France the shiverers

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)nights yeah but like if we went back biblically people would love on others to show other people that they can experience God's love Yeah but biblically it's not that's not we

Q (The Q Pill)talking about where we actually know it originated historically like where you can date it back to it was the shiverers nights of France and that's where being that's where we that's that's where that's where the that's no the concept

Q (The Q Pill)of chivalry like wooing a woman like trying to impress a woman doing those kind of things it dates back to I believe 15th century France might be a little earlier than that somewhere

Q (The Q Pill)between the 12th and the 16th century France shiver with nights okay but I don't think women ever like demanded a man open a car door for them no that's just a form of chivalry and it all ties

Q (The Q Pill)back into just trying to impress a woman you're trying to be impressive to the woman yeah you're trying to Dem basically pedestalize her okay yeah so that's what opening a car door would be

Brian Atlasin a sense it's like your majesty my queen wait so again though how is it harmful to the woman for her to do a

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)bow because it you're only thinking about yourself that's not the ground I'm not saying it's going to like cause physical harm to her but in the

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)relationship that's not that's not going to be very M Nick I can't see her so you have to be looking out for this go ahead sorry I keep looking at you that's why but um it's not going to cause a healthy

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)relationship when you're only thinking about your experience and how you can be served instead of trying to consider her experience okay I have a couple questions and when both people do that probably do you know what she might end

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)up bowing for you but when you're like okay I need to be bowed for and like I'm only I'm not going to think about how I can you know bring love into this person's life I'm just going to think

Brian Atlasabout how she can make me feel better and better that's not going to be grounds for a healthy relationship so you think that if a woman were to bow in a relationship it would just be absolutely catastrophic

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)and it would just lead to the demise of the relationship just on virtue of the of her bowing and the man wanting her to Bow I don't think it would be catastrophic but I do think that having

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)that is like an ideal for looking for relationships is like honestly so un like it's not good I don't think it's healthy like honestly I think it's just very you don't think it's healthy

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)no I don't think it's very let me ask you Rel I'll ask both you for woman to bow to a guy that's doing too much it's unhealthy okay so what labor like is it

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)is it physically laborious is it grueling to do I just feel like um it's a slippery slope like might you might ask her to bow for you but then like what's next what else are you going to

Brian Atlasbe asking her to do that kind kind of just like lowers her ranking in the relationship it doesn't lower her ranking it's bit degrading no it

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)actually elevates her no what you got Amy if she's bowing to you would you bow back to her that's what my original question was going to

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)be like is this actually a fetish Kink or is this about sub like submissive nature it's funny how upset they get about the bow thing so here's what's interesting I think you might about

Brian Atlasjust really quick question for you do you object obviously you recognize there are cultures where where bowing is more uh typical do you object to the bow in those cultures what cultures uh like Asian

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)cultures for example like Japan I don't know if they bow to their husbands I don't know the specifics bowing is more common well no CU I I think that's totally different context

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)they're not okay sure so we'll remove that from the equation if you don't object to it in that context uh is this it's cultural appropriation though a sign to respect our elders we

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)don't bow to our like spouses you know like I don't get like my nephews and nieces B to me you're Vietnamese though right I'm chinese vietnamese yeah okay

Brian Atlaswell I don't know the specifics of the various uh you know the the cultures the cultural specifics of each individual country I know there are vast

Brian Atlasdifferences between Vietnam uh Korea Japan China um Thailand Mongolia La Indonesia I don't know there's PL

Brian Atlasthere's plenty of Asian countries they all have different cultures um so yeah if you take it from I'm not making an argument of like I'm doing

Brian Atlasthis because I of Asian cultures no this is just like some white boy [ __ ] but you won't answer why why do you want her to Bow cuz I want it do I need any other

Brian Atlasreasons yes well okay one because it's submissive one because it's submissive it's sort of a a determination of her willingness to be submissive but and be

Brian Atlasplayful and be playful it's not like some Dark Twisted demented thing for me how is it how is it dark articulate like you can't just throw it out and not have

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)a reason for it how is it dark can I can I chime in let me no no no I just don't know how you can just stand there and watch somebody bow to you and not feel like stop that just stand up that's

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)because hold on stop that but you're viewing it through the female lens you desire you want know something funny what you have after that night after that night that well the first

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)night that I did the podcast and he Str the Bowing video I told my husband about it and then we were acting it out together and I bowed to him and he felt

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)so weird and he was like don't ever do that again and I was like cool I was like how does it make you feel when I bow to you he goes he was like I can't even describe

Brian Atlasit it's like I just don't want you to do it I feel weird about myself if you bowed to me before you did the bow did you have a five minute conversation about how you feel like you told him

Brian Atlasthat you think it's weird and that no be you just literally you guys were talking about it and you set up this totally inorganic bowing thing one he doesn't

Brian Atlasdesire the bow too you have opposition to the bow so of course it was going to come off weird in that scenario I've had women who've come on the show who said hey Brian I just hit the bow to my man

Brian Atlasjust cuz I've seen it and the husband liked it that is not something that women are naturally going to want to do so you can give your circumstantial thing I can just give you an opposite scenario where we had a woman who was on

Q (The Q Pill)who said she hit the bow and the husband loved it cool you probably freaked your husband out cuz he know you not even like that you probably was like what the [ __ ] but hold on you I'm very submissive

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)though I'm very submissive but that was just taking it up I actually like kind of give the bow as much seriousness as like you're you're wanting back scratches it's like I don't see the need

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)to give the I'll bow sure my husband actually asks like when he comes home from work that I meet him at the door and give him a kiss hello like that's not very far away oh sorry but yeah

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)that's not very far away from like the bow but it's not like giving it so much power to compromise myself my husband just said he wanted this because and

Amy/Veta/Jordan (mixed)excuse me and he uh wants to feel loved by me so I don't see couple questions here so just going back to you um you want to get

Brian Atlasmarried yeah one day uh I assume I mean women have different views on this but do you want are you fine with your husband paying for like a $100

Brian Atlasring are you fine with that or would you want him to spend a bit more no I would be fine with that you'd be fine with that going around the table you're married how much did your husband spend on the ring uh never told me never told you never asked okay what about you I

Brian Atlasdon't think I don't think it matters don't care okay absolutely not don't care no I care okay how much should a man I've heard something like three

Brian Atlasmonths salary that's what I've heard sure so you'd want a man to pay okay three month salary with bu you how much did your husband pay

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)salary um wait can I have an example what 3 month salary is cuz I don't know USD conversion I mean people make different salaries and uh yeah so like that's what I'm saying like what if it's a McDonald's worker with a 3- month

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)salary versus someone like you said like a lawyer yeah sure I want a six karat ring minimum oh my good so what what is how much does that cost I don't know could be anywhere from like 60 to 80k

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)depending on the diamond vendor could be anywhere from like 60 to 80k depending on the diamond vendor if you're getting one that was lab created or if you're getting one that was sourced from

Brian AtlasAfrica wow I don't think I ever asked wait I have show the ring can I ask you something show us the ring I don't know jack [ __ ] about rings I don't know if it's looks like a pricey

Kateone uh what about you do you want pricey I mean I don't think it really matters but I also don't think you should be getting married if you're not at a point in your life where you can financially

Katelike well that's a different thing but it has to do with the cost and how much you're spending like if you're able to pay for it yeah three month

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)salary I think that's what's they I don't agree with it but what about you well it at least has to be the ring I want it has to be the ring you want yeah is your ring that you want going to be

Brian Atlasworth $100 probably not oh okay I picked out my ring I it doesn't matter yeah I don't really mind okay so

Brian Atlasgoing around once more on this I mean do uh just show of hands who here wants to be married get married everybody okay already uh now do

Brian Atlasyou want the guy uh just show of hands do you want the guy to propose to you is that everybody hands high please uh so starting with you do you want your

Brian Atlashusband to do the get down on one knee thing to propose to you yeah okay what about you

Brian Atlasor did your husband do that yeah he did was about you yes yes he did yes mhm yes yeah so hold on here just a second I

Brian Atlaswould argue that kneeling is a bitchier move than Bowing in addition to that you also want your husband to spend money on a ring now some of you seemed a bit

Brian Atlasmodest in terms of what how much you want him to spend but you want him to get down on one knee and essentially beg quivering begging for your hand like a

Brian Atlasquivering begging dog why is it okay for women to say I want a man to get down on one knee and I would argue kneeling is more pathetic pathetic I don't view

Brian Atlasbowing as pathetic but whatever if if your thing is oh it's so pathetic for a woman to Bow why is it not objectionable then for a man to do that I if he want me to bow to him he can get down on one

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)knee honestly bowing you're looking down kneeling you're looking up and that's a very to be lower that's way more submissive you have to do it one time one one time in

Brian Atlasyour life sure that is it in in addition to that if the man's the winner he's essentially getting down on one knee right if the man's the bread winner he's also not just getting down on one knee he's not just saying I want to be with

Brian Atlasyou forever he also says in the event that you ever change your mind you're going to financially destroy me that's also what that means how about that sorry

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)Checkmate I he um can I just say something I think it's based off like what everyone wants like I know like you're for no bowing but I feel like in the video it's showing that the man is coming home from like a hard days of

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)work and she's been at home preparing for him and basically like I feel like the bow is showing like a sign of thank you cuz he's basically the one I'm assuming paying for the house paying for the food that she used to cook for him I feel like a bowing is a very not

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)everyone has to do it of course like I mean it's based of communication with you and your partner like um Brian I don't think you should assume that your first day someone would bow to you unless you openly say please bow to me I

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)mean like I don't know if that'll swipe or whatever that works but um I feel like it's based off like the relationship you have with your partner if that person is working hard day in day out not saying that you're not at home but that's like a a small a small factor that can like help them maybe

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)wanting to come home maybe or give them a feeling that like they feel a sense of like reward that they' basically they took care of you in aspect like it's a good like they said Domin like the dominant ver submissive type of stuff I feel like

Brian Atlasif you have really really really earned that bow then sure yeah I don't even think that oh I don't need to earn it on the first date oh yeah to McDonald I

Bri/Maddie/Turkish (mixed)don't need to it's pursuing that that is bizarre pursuing what somebody that's going to bow for you if that came what

Brian Atlasif I told you that that for example if a woman's initi initiating with me and she watches the show would you object to uh under those circumstances object to me

Brian Atlaswanting a bow because I would say most every single girl here at the table for a guy you like you'll do way more than a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] bow trust me I would bow my guy if you do way more than a [ __ ] bow for a guy you really like that's facts but I would I a dealing with these these chicks on dating apps who are dating

Brian Atlasfive five three guys at the same time they're [ __ ] two other dudes I ain't dealing with those chicks maybe that's how y'all move I don't deal with those kind of girls that's facts I'm dealing

TTS/Chat readerwith a girl who's only interested in me grid One Motorsports donated $200 B I used to bow to people all the time right before they threw me all over

TTS/Chat readerthe mat and kicked my ass like it was the job it is a sign of respect is not earned it just is these girls are broke yo gri one good to see you in the

Brian Atlaschat bro uh wait what right before they threw I used to bow to the PE to people all the time he think he's talking about his karate teacher or something oh oh you know what's crazy grid one me and him we we took like an aido class this

Brian Atlasguy's a [ __ ] aido black Bel gosh he's got that [ __ ] aido I thought aido was a stick

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Brian Atlasgender expectations of what a man ought to do but like AOW is pretty benign speaking of which I'll save the bullet conversation for later but the big argument we had last show is so you want

Brian Atlasa man to take a bullet for you but you you want a man to literally die for you I know some of you said oh if the green I don't want my man to die period right but if like in a

Brian Atlashypothetical scenario where one of you has to take a bullet I mean for example you said you prefer the guy to you'd want the guy to die for you well I didn't ask you the bullet question you did you did the Grim Reaper question so

Brian Atlasthat's where you have the it's pretty much the same but uh you want men to be will like for in some self-defense scenario you would want a man to literally protect you to the point of

Brian Atlashe's would put his life on the line in order to protect you in a self-defense scenario but y'all won't bow that's crazy son I think ultimately though hon crazy son when he put it in a

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)perspective like that it make complete sense well he's great at putting things in those kinds of perspectives but but let's just say this but I still don't it gives me if my husband was like I don't

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)like it I would really appreciate it if you would bow to me my husband is Asian by the way W so it wouldn't be like totally his name his name is

Brian Atlaswisdom wait that's his that's his name his name was his name was wisdom his name is wisdom oh is I I heard a was so is Yo W's in the chat for

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)wisdom good for him yeah good for him but if he asked me if he was like honey like I really want you to bow to me like it might hit me as like oh my God it might throw me off a

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)little bit at first but like I wouldn't be opposed to it because like honestly I put his needs above my own there you go so I would do it cool I just I mean I

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)think hot take Angel what you got I think like love at the end of the day is selfless and unconditional I think we can all agree here that when we're in love with someone we would go extreme links for that person so it's like right

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)here in this table we may be like oh my gosh like oh that's crazy but if someone were're in love with ask us to do that we probably would do that and like he said way more love makes you do crazy things it does I want the praise Kink to

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)be reciprocal so if he expects me to Bow then yeah I want my car door opened and then I have no problem bowing but if there's not that reciprocity then like cuz I think like the bow is it like

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)historically is coming from a place of like you're bowing to somebody who is not your equal who is like kind of above you and in a partnership in a relationship you are to treat each other as equals on since when have women Ever

Brian AtlasWanted their equal you think women are going for their equ okay equal in life value but do you think women actually want their

Brian Atlasequal can you elaborate a little bit well I'm not saying this is the case I'm not saying this is the case for all women but women typically want for example uh a guy who's more charismatic than them a

Brian Atlasguy who's more interesting than them a guy who's more entertaining than them a guy who makes more money than them so we're not the guy who's more confident across domain a guy who's more confident than they are well yes but I wouldn't say that like he is more

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)valuable than me well it when you bow different values like she was saying like you know like in Asian culture you bow to your

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)grandparents things like that it's like I wouldn't see my husband as that like I would see him as like we are an equal but like yeah I I don't want to live my

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)life without him like I do definitely um there's a lot of value in his life but I don't see as like he's he's more than me or he deserves more than me like I think we kind of reciprocate each other and

Brian Atlasthere's an EB and flow right but so in terms in terms of obviously like your value as a human being yes men and women are equal and that's why I think the Bowing

Brian Atlasis is an obstruction on that okay do you want a guy to pay for a first date [Music] um the first well you've answered this question before I'm almost conf I'm very

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)confident you said yes okay that's not very equal I would because he he's asking me to go on the date so he's have you ever asked a guy out on the date

Brian Atlasno interesting how that works out so not really well hold on if men de facto have to be the initiators because women refuse to initiate ever then

Brian Atlasyou're then of course Men by of course men have to be the initiators then if women refuse to initiate or do so so infrequently that a

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)man would be would never find a woman if he and initiate then yes it's in your nature to pursue women oh so we're not equal then no I'm saying it's in your nature to pursue women we have things in

Q (The Q Pill)our nature too but wouldn't a bow in a sense be a mark of reciprocity in terms of how men are naturally the ones who typically fund a relationship they're typically

Q (The Q Pill)the ones who put in more effort into getting you I I think that's fair like especially if he's the bread winner he pays the bills he's taking care of you he's willing to risk his life for you a

Q (The Q Pill)bow would simp would simply be u a gesture of appreciation that's today's e that's not always the case so I mean it still is the majority of the time though we ain't saying always but sure but like

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)I said the reason I think it's a slippery slope is because the bow slippery Bo to other things like what more is he going to want that's going to make me

Brian Atlasfeel a little bit degraded you know like does it stop at the Bowing wait isn't the isn't slippery SL a fallacy fallacy yeah definitely

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)fallacy yeah it's a fallacy logical fallacy okay so listen you can date a girl who's going to bow for you there I'm sure she's going to she'll do it if

Brian Atlasshe wants to do it but hold on I'll I'll actually engage I'll actually just engage you on the slippery slope thing okay so do you think I have like these devious like I'm some 50 Shades of Gray thing I'm actually pretty vanilla to be

Brian Atlashonest I mean I'm I actually don't particularly like super rough sex don't I prefer gentle sex I'm just being super honest right now um don't have any like super crazy Kinks I don't want to beat you up in bed y'all are actually it's

Brian Atlasthe women that want to be choked and slapped around and [ __ ] which I don't want to do uh so yeah okay what maybe she's like I'll B for you but you have to take a bullet for slippery slope who

Brian Atlasare the women who are buying 50 Shades of Gray is like the bestselling [ __ ] book it's all it's y'all who are all twisted and demented in the head sorry I got loud

Brian Atlasthere wow it was one of the most popular books ever y'all are the ones with like demented and twisted sexual fantasies and fetishes don't get me wrong there

Brian Atlasare guys who are out there who want to who are uh uh what's it called um no it's

Brian Atlasuhsm sadists there are absolutely men out there that are sadists but a GU a bow is very very benign and I don't think that would be indicative of him like he wants to like

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)abuse you sex like that's crazy I don't think a bow is benign how is it not benign I just like I like I said like it just intuitively feels demeaning to them it really does

Angelic/Jordan/Jasmine/Turkish (mixed)and I think most women would agree with that but it's not it feels like that I know but it's not fact you got the feminist mind virus don't call me feminist cuz I am not a

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