Andrew Wilson vs. NotSoErudite HEATED MARATHON DEBATE | Whatever Debates 25

Date: 2026-02-21

Duration: 8h 47m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNotSoErudite >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00NotSoErudite (Kyla)(guest)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Andrew Wilson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces debate: Andrew Wilson vs NotSoErudite (Kyla). Four prompts on Christian nationalism.

QuoteAndrew: 'I do hate leftists... God will punish my soul for it'

Key MomentKyla introduces Agrippa's Trilemma - becomes central philosophical battleground

Key MomentKyla spills energy drink on stream equipment

Key MomentRobot claw beer pass disaster - major spillage incident

Key MomentKyla reveals Brian offered her Whatever host position before Andrew

ControversyAndrew tells Kyla her main problem is being 'supremely unlikable'

OtherDebate ends after ~8 hours. After-show segment.

Topics Discussed

Christian Nationalism and American Identity

Whether Christian nationalism is unAmerican. Founding fathers, 1st/10th/14th Amendments.

Agrippa's Trilemma

Central philosophical battleground: all belief systems are foundationally unjustifiable.

Jesus and Political Power

Kyla argues Jesus rejected political power citing John 18, Matthew 4, John 6.

Abortion Ethics

Kyla's pro-choice legal/pro-life personal stance. When ensoulment occurs.

Content Creator Likability

Andrew critiques Kyla's streaming career, argues unlikability is main barrier.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasus to both leave right now or I suspect one of us? >> But if you want to Yeah. Uh, guys, go to twitch.tv. Nathan, pull it up, please. Uh, twitch.tv/w whatever. Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

Brian AtlasI'm a broke starving college student artist. So, if you want to show some support, twitch.tv whatever. Drop us a follow. drops a prime sub, like the video. $69 TTS. Andrew is returning from

Brian Atlasa smoke break. We're going to let the TTS roll through. Uh Kyla is going to uh also take a bit of Oh, no. Andrew is not quite yet returning, but I'm going to let some TTS come through. Here we have

SPEAKER_02this from J Giovani. >> Giovani J. You donated $69. >> Sorry for the delay. >> Herodite, your only resolve in the Jia debate were my super chats. So much so

SPEAKER_02you only clipped all of my super chats on your Tik Tok and nothing else. No mercy for baby murder apologists. W Andrew.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> I I'm very sorry, Giovani JD, that you personally uh were bothered by my TikTok. I suppose the reason why I didn't clip up the J Dyer uh thing more was frankly I just didn't have the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)logistic back end. So I now have like a much faster turnaround of clips. >> Oh, you could still you can still clip it if you >> That's true. It always feels weird posting like year and a half old clips. >> It's evergreen. I feel like it's evergreen. >> Maybe I will. Maybe I should go back and

SPEAKER_02clip it. >> Let me donate $69. Is she evil? Of course not. >> Thank you. >> Is she wrong? >> Yes. >> No. >> She's not bad. She's pretty. We get it.

SPEAKER_02But she needs to learn culture, not data, to understand Andrew properly. >> Take a shot. Skull. >> It's why she never got popular. Meridite never got popular because of this. That

Andrew Wilsonwas always the reason. She She like I know you're sitting here, but I'm just She always could she always had the potential to be very popular on Twitch. Like she could have dominated that whole space. It was the fact that she was

Brian Atlassupremely unlikable. That's what always did it to her. >> You know what I think it is, Andrew? It's the whatever to the whatever podcast to the Joe Rogan pipeline. She just didn't come on. [laughter] She didn't come on the whatever podcast.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> That's true. You did offer me a host position at the same time actually that you offered it to Andrew. I think you offered it to me first and I and I said no cuz I was doing bridges at the time which unfortunately blew up. I mean the reason why my platform isn't as big as

NotSoErudite (Kyla)I've never prioritized it but yes Andrewed you to come back on the show. >> It's not a flex. >> You definitely offered me the host. You did >> you were like think about it and I was like I don't want to fly to Santa Barbara all the time.

Brian Atlas>> Fake news. >> This is not fake news. Misinformation. Misinformation. Disinformation. fake news. >> You were like looking at I I won't say names, but you're looking at one person. You were talking a little bit to Andrew. You were talking to me and then Andrew

NotSoErudite (Kyla)took it, which was awesome. I'm I'm glad that Andrew took it. I think it was good. >> Andrew was there one night. >> No, no, no. Not Andrew was there. We were talking about it. We went out for like tacos one night and you were we were talking to girls and trying to maybe get them on the show and stuff and you're like, you should Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> No, no, no. After the show, I think we went to get like a group of us all went to get food >> and we were just talking after the show. offer suggest position, but I said we can take a shot of >> what's that? >> Do you have anything we can take a shot

Brian Atlasof? >> We got more beer. We have Oh, you know those like that super high alcohol >> No >> beer that I have like >> the one that will kill you. >> What [laughter] is it like absent? >> Hey Nathan, in that cabinet right there,

Brian Atlascan you see at the very top? I think I have I just have like wine and champagne. >> I don't Yeah. Can you see in there? >> Yeah, I'll just have another beer. Forget it. >> Uh can you

Andrew Wilson>> tequila? Yes. Tequila. >> Uh, do we actually have tequila? >> Oh, rip, Brian. >> Yeah. >> Big big L's on the alcohol content. >> Tequila. Do you want tequila?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Yeah. >> Andrew. Uh, yeah. Do you want >> No, that was really it. That was always that. >> It was always that. It was always the supreme unlikability. >> No, I I don't know why you're like making these weird digs. So, part of the

Andrew Wilsonreason why my dig of Of course it is. >> No, it really isn't. How is saying I'm unlikable and that's why I'm not famous is not a >> No, no, no. It's why you never did as well in Twitch and YouTube as you could have done. >> What's the difference between these statements?

Andrew Wilson>> I'm unlikable, which is why I'm not more popular. >> Yeah. Well, for >> How is that not a dig? >> That's not a dig. That's just a statement of fact. >> There's more TTS. >> So, a statement of fact cannot be a dig. >> If you said if you said, Andrew, the

Andrew Wilsonreason nobody bought your book is because you're a bad writer. I don't think that's a dig. Uh, it might be depending on like the >> Yeah, I'm not I'm not even trying to make a dig. I'm just saying that that's the reason the super chat is one. It was like that was she always had the potential to be.

Andrew Wilson>> I took two years off of content creation. That's that's a really big contributor. In fact, when I started picking it back up in September, I've like grown. >> You had every advantage. You were there with Destiny. You had a complete access to DG. At first, they loved you. At first, everything was going really good

Andrew Wilsonwith that. What ended up happening ultimately was the unlikability. You had Bridges. Bridges was tuned into by tons of DGG. They ultimately just ended up not liking you. That was the problem. It was that particular audience just did

NotSoErudite (Kyla)not like you. >> That was not the problem. >> That was the problem. >> Okay. >> If you want to make there's nothing I could say to this. I've been in the space for years is not true of my >> You can tell you can ask me the lore on

Andrew Wilsonbasically any content creator from Twitch poll to YouTube and I could [ __ ] tell you the entire uh transition that they made the the entire lore behind them because I study my opposition like no other. >> Did you know that I took basically two

Andrew Wilsonyears off of content creation? >> Well, it wasn't two years. >> It was about two years. Yeah. >> Nope, it wasn't. You still did content creation even in that two-year span. >> I didn't grow any of my own personal platform or promote it. >> But you still did content creation within that span. Uh, almost none,

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> but you still did some. >> So, sorry if you want to grow. So, [clears throat] here's a pro tip. If you want to go in content creation, consistency is a really big part of it, right? >> Inconsistent, by the way. >> Well, here's one of the issues.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Oh my god. Who the hell cares >> because you're more famous? >> No, no, no. I'm just saying that I I sherked all conventional wisdom. It's not about consistency. It never has been. It's never been about consistent.

Andrew WilsonThat's an old trope for content creators, but the ones who follow the consistency model are always the smallest ones. >> Yeah, Asmin Gold is popular not because he's consistent, but because >> it's not because he's consistent. >> It's It's for sure a consistency is a

Andrew Wilsonlarge part of it. It's not the only part of it. >> It's not even a particularly large part. The largest part of content >> in trying to pillar me like this. >> I'm not even pillaring you. I'm just pointing it out. >> You're trying to say you're less famous

Andrew Wilsonbecause you're unlikely. >> It's not It's not about less famous. I didn't host it about less. >> Is that what brought this on is that you feel >> Oh, Lord. This was I brought this up before he said anything about that.

Andrew Wilson>> Andrew, you do have a bigger platform than me. It's not a matter of It's Why think it's a dialectic of like >> there's there's content creators who are much larger than me. That's all relative. I've never been a [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonegoist about that. And the thing that's funny is like um never >> Why did you bring up my size? >> Never. Well, no. I'm saying that the reason that this happened in content creation was because of the likability issue. It always

Andrew Wilson>> doesn't matter necessarily. >> Well, because that was what the question was. >> No, it wasn't. >> Yeah. They were talk I've said the reason for this is always been the case with with Kylo. She was speaking to the unlikability and it was like it was

NotSoErudite (Kyla)always the case. It was the reason she never got big on any of those platforms. >> Your audience doesn't like me, but that doesn't change the fact that there are significant other audiences that do like me. >> There are no significant audiences that like you. None. Name one. my own.

Andrew Wilson>> You don't have likes and you don't have No, they don't. And you don't have a significant audience and DGG does not like you. >> I don't think I have a significant audience. >> Then why would you say that? >> Because you said who likes you and I said my own audience. >> No, you said significant. You said the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)word significant. >> Yeah, the Jubilee audience seemed to really really like me. >> They like anybody who's going against conservatives, but none of them came. >> There was multiple people on my Jubilee platform that were against conservatives and yet I was the one that got all the

Andrew Wilsonpromotion. I gained like almost 10k subs from didn't do anything for you. Your live streams are about the same size and they're about the same size because it's a >> like their CCV my CCV is actually bigger despite the fact that >> by what 30 live viewers.

Andrew Wilson>> Well, yeah, for like a small channel that's pretty significant. >> 30 live viewers. It's like it's always been a likability problem. >> I I just disagree and I'm not asking. >> I know. But you should you would though, right? The an unlikable person would

Andrew Wilsondisagree with a person who tells them the reason you're not getting anywhere in this is because you're unlikable. You would disagree with that. That's the point. That's like the most unlikable part. >> Disagreeing. >> No, it's just that it's the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)argumentative nature of every single individual thing. >> Aren't you argumentative? >> Oh, I concede most points, actually. >> Which points did you concede to? >> Oh, I conceded tons of points. >> Which which ones? I also conceded multiple points. >> No, not really.

Andrew Wilson>> Sure, but okay. >> All right. >> You're super likable, by the way. >> That's true. That's one of the things the the kind of the the feedback that I get the most is just that you're you're a very likable guy. >> Yeah. That's why there are so many

NotSoErudite (Kyla)conservatives that like are not allowing you into certain spaces that don't want to work with you. I'm definitely not saying names. >> Yeah. Because there aren't any. >> There absolutely are. I just want to be very clear. There absolutely are. But I'm not going to lie. >> I guarantee you that all those conservatives are probably not as

Andrew Wilsonpopular as me. >> They're just jealous. They're just jealous. >> Probably. I guarantee you that almost all of them are not as popular as I am. >> But he doesn't care about how popular it is, guys. Don't worry. >> Well, it's it's just funny to note that it's like conservatives who won't let me

Andrew Wilsonin their space, but I'm not going to name them, right? So, it's like, well, I can name all the conservatives who do let me in their space, and it's all the really popular ones, interestingly enough. Just saying. >> None of the unpopular ones. Yep. >> Yeah. I don't I don't even know who

Andrew Wilsonthese people are cuz you ain't going to name them. >> You do know who they are. I'm just not going to like obviously. >> But you're not going to tell me who they are. >> Yeah. Here. Of course not. Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course not. >> Yeah. Likability issue. >> Yeah. Because being argumentative is the likability issue.

Andrew Wilson>> That's not the just the being argumentative. It's the mostly it's in in your streams. The entire stream is just condescension. >> That's the tone that people hear is just pure condescension. The entire >> say that's true. I mean most people So

NotSoErudite (Kyla)for example, condescension would be me profaining kindness and niceness while like discerning down like in a patronizing way. But that's not typically what I do. In fact, when I mean I belittle people. And I say that pretty openly. >> Yeah. But I just said the whole tone of

Andrew Wilsonyour stream sounds like condescension to people. That might be your issue, but that's just more to you. >> It's if you changed that, if you changed the condescension and you changed the likability problem, you would be a [ __ ] mega star on those platforms.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> So, in the case of like Jubilee, for example, um I spoke mostly the same way that I spoke speak most of the time. People didn't find me condescending. They find me really likable. In fact, one of the things they specifically like >> 20 live viewers, 20 more live viewers.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Yeah, live live streams typically are going to grow uh slower. Um, and I I think I gained uh 6 to 7K subs uh from that single Jubilee performance, which is awesome. >> Okay. >> You know what I think your issue is,

Brian AtlasKyla? >> You you're there's no color in your hair. If it was paint, >> there actually is. >> Pink or purple or blue or green.

Brian Atlas>> I think that would go a long way >> to bolster you. If you want to hire me as a consultant, >> cheers. I have very affordable uh rates, you know, image consultant.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. Why isn't Andrew more popular? What's his issue? >> You know what? Um he doesn't come on the [laughter] whatever podcast enough. >> He needs to come on more just like

Brian Atlas>> true to grow his platform from there. >> He needs Andrew needs to come on the whatever podcast more. And you know what I think his big thing is as a di I'm going to diagnose you, Andrew. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasHe doesn't smoke cigars on stream. The guy only smokes cigarettes. I think that's if he started just like >> Tony Soprano big phallic shaped thing

Brian Atlas>> take Whoa. Hold on. Let's not let's not project like that. That's crazy, Kyla, that you would say that. I just think it's that maybe if he smoked cigars he would get, you know, I think that would be big. Improve the aesthetic.

Brian Atlas>> I think it'd be big. And >> um >> I would like to see him sing more on his streams, though. I think singing would do well and I think um >> I agree the women the women love the singing.

Brian Atlas>> Andrew actually like I I know we're kind of like having a bit of a joke here. >> If Andrew did IRL like table stuff in

Brian Atlaspublic either Men on the Street or Change My Mind, Andrew would be the biggest [ __ ] streamer. Uh bigger than all the even like the the young guns that do the [ __ ]

Andrew WilsonI don't know who's >> probably not right. Like a lot of people's issue with Andrew is like >> I don't know. You guys have always You guys have always doubted me and I'm one of the largest conservative streamers in the world. >> When did I ever sleep on >> Also, he doesn't care about it though. When did I ever doubt you?

Andrew Wilson>> No, I'm telling you. >> Oh my god. We can go back to the old streams. This is why nobody likes Andrew. Nobody will debate with Andrew. Everyone hates Andrew. Andrew's bad. They had tons of streams like that.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Destiny had cope streams about that. And the thing is all you [ __ ] I beat you. I remember you having roast streams where you would spend 3 to four hours insulting me, calling me a [ __ ] insulting me. I never called you a

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] You absolutely did. >> I've never used the word [ __ ] That's incorrect. I don't even Nope. I don't I don't even The only time I call women [ __ ] is if they're actual prostitutes.

Andrew WilsonI've always made that clue. Now, [ __ ] I don't usually use that language either. I get conflated a lot with red pillars who say that [ __ ] I don't I will say stupid [ __ ] >> but I don't call women [ __ ] unless they're actual [ __ ] >> Yeah. So, one of the issues is like

NotSoErudite (Kyla)you're saying like, "Oh, we were just sitting about talking about how negative Andrew is." Yeah. Lots of people didn't like you in the Twitch poll space obviously cuz you're kind of >> They're all leftist. >> Yeah. And you're kind of >> because they were all leftists. That's why. >> Well, there I like plenty of conservatives.

Andrew Wilson>> I wanted all of the the like the leftist hating me is good. That is my favorite part of the job. >> What about the conservatives disliking you? >> I I Who? The ones who shall not be named. >> Yes. I'm not going to like drop people that dislike you for Exactly. For all I

NotSoErudite (Kyla)know, they don't even exist. How the [ __ ] do I know? >> They do exist. I'm not going to drop them for your audience to go and harass them in the way that your audience harasses most of the people that you talk about when you made multiple 3 to four hour roast sessions on me. I don't

NotSoErudite (Kyla)remember at any point spending three to four dedicated hours just talking [ __ ] about you, your life, your choices. I don't remember [snorts] doing any of this. This was your style of content. >> Uhhuh. >> Yeah. >> And >> that so I I don't know why you would

NotSoErudite (Kyla)begin to even point at me and say you really dislike me. It's like uh I didn't like that you talked nasty about >> you were this was long before I ever did a trash talk extravaganza that you were talking >> basically we had one interaction where you said I'm going to interview you and

NotSoErudite (Kyla)then it was a really obnoxious debate and then after that you just trash talk me basically all the time. >> No. Yes. >> That wasn't how that went. >> Absolutely. Why did you delete all those row sessions? Put them back up. >> I didn't. They're all behind a payw wall

NotSoErudite (Kyla)right this second you go watch them. >> Gotcha. Okay. And what you'll notice behind my payw wall is there isn't a single time where I spend 3 to four hours about Not just not talking [ __ ] about you, >> but not talking [ __ ] about anyone. I don't spend like 3 to four hours. Yes.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)Did I do I like you that much? No. I don't like you. Right. The idea, >> but that's not the same thing as like holding me to some standard that I talk negative and that I didn't think you were going to go. >> Likability. That's it. >> I You said that I didn't ever think you were going to go for that. I was questioning you. I had I'm completely

NotSoErudite (Kyla)agnostic on that. Especially at the time, I didn't know anything about social media. I had no opinion on who was going to be famous or not. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> We [snorts] have more chats coming through. We have chats coming through. TTS chats.

Brian AtlasOkay. Very important. Very important. TTS. Uh $69. TTS streamlabs.com/ whatever. I'm waiting for it to load. One moment. We have Chaw XD.

SPEAKER_02>> Uh Chaw XD $69. Go for it. >> Hey, Kyler. You don't know anything about evolution. You [ __ ] puppy. >> Demonstrate to us how random mutation

SPEAKER_02leads to purpose-driven biological mechanism. Go ahead and show us. Biologists sure can't. >> Quick answer if you can. >> I I don't know how to quick answer evolution. Uh typically because random mutation leads to things that are

NotSoErudite (Kyla)functional for the environment that they are in. So that will lead to functionality in the environment over time which leads to the situations that we have. Right? If a if a angled beak was more effective for getting worms out of a specific type of soil, then that would be uh successful until that soil

NotSoErudite (Kyla)changed for example and then that would be outcompeted by other things. >> That didn't answer question. Of course it did. >> Put up the question. I'll show you. I'll show you what he actually asked. >> Okay. I'm going to go to the bathroom while you guys. >> Of course. Yeah. Yeah. It's

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. The question is, demonstrate to us how a random mutation leads to purposedriven biological mechanism. The purpose- driven biological mechanism is the point.

Brian Atlas>> Did I already pull Did I pull the super chat? Is that the one? Is this the one that started the Did I pull this up, Nathan? >> Andrew, did I? >> No, I didn't see that one. >> Isn't this the one that I just want to say

Brian Atlas>> I'm not saying that it wasn't there. I'm just saying I didn't see it. >> Okay. Uh well, while she's on break, uh let's take this opportunity. Debate University. Uh guys, debate. If you want

Andrew Wilsonto become a master debater like Andrew, you want to watch people argue against their own position for hours and not get end up having to take a shot so you can maintain your sanity. If you want to

Andrew Wilsonwatch a person argue against their own position for hours, they don't even know that they're doing it. And then you just show it in clip after clip afterwards. And you have to end it with a shot, go to Debate University because it's really going to help you do

Brian Atlasthat. >> Do you want more tequila, Andrew? >> Oh, >> we have You want some more? >> One more. >> Uh, could you give him another shot, please? Uh, guys, debateuniversity.com

Brian Atlasto become a master debater if you want to. There's video tutorials, hours and hours of video. Uh Andrew is and a few others are giving you a video tutorial

Andrew Wilsonon learning >> for hours. You can make them argue against their own position for [ __ ] hours and they do it. They they'll do it for hours. They'll argue against their

Andrew Wilsonown position. How the [ __ ] does that even work? >> How does it even work? That's what I want to know. Naima argued against her own position for hours. They just argue against their own [ __ ] for [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonhours. >> Andrew, could I have you ask the viewers to like the video? >> Like the video, >> guys. Like the video. Like the video. >> Like the video. Let's have Let's have a shot, everybody. And God, I can't wait for the dating talk tomorrow. Boy, that sounds awesome.

Andrew Wilson>> We We have a little break day. >> Oh, yeah. We got a break day. Maybe I'll do a stream tomorrow. I haven't been very consistent yet. And that's the key to popularity >> is consistency. >> Consistency. >> Consistency. Uh-huh. >> Consistency. Uh,

Brian Atlasor wait, no, that here. I'll pull that one up in a bit. Uh, we have Mike Davis here. Mike Davis coming in. Just one moment. I'm waiting for it to load. Kyla

Brian Atlasis rejoining us. Mike Davis. Oh. Uh, I don't know why it didn't play audio. I'll just read it. All jittery. Won't stop yapping. Trying

Andrew Wilsontoo hard and cringy. What kind of autism is she? Are you um >> the same kind this guy is? I don't know what it is. Mike Davis. >> Yeah, we have the same type. >> Okay. >> They're they're The thing is is like

Andrew Wilsonthey're all trained in Twitch pole. There used to be >> Yeah, they're all train Well, they're trained by each other. >> They don't uh they don't like you don't go to formal training sessions, but they were all trained by each other in the

Andrew WilsonTwitch pole era, which is largely dead by the way now. It's largely doesn't even exist. But essentially what they would do is they would use these long paddling word salads. And the second, you could actually decode those. I

Andrew Wilsonalways found that the method to decode them was you let them prattle paddle paddle, ask two questions, watch them contradict, they would switch the position. The way that they got away with it for so long is people didn't clip them doing it. They didn't clip it.

Andrew WilsonIf they had clipped it, they would have put an end to Twitch pull way earlier. But took a long time for that [ __ ] whole thing to finally fall apart. >> All right, we have a message here from

SPEAKER_02Let me make sure it's okay. I think it's all right. Oh, >> Eerodite sneaky link donated $69. Good thing you only submit to your husband. He let you date and flirt with

SPEAKER_02other men. Your Christian ethics are on point. Why don't you dox Brian next? You're a joke of Christian and decent human. >> Look, I don't I don't think that she

Andrew Wilsonintended I'm like to be charitable. I don't think that she intended to dox. I'm not going to put that on her. I I do think that it's just genuinely or

Andrew Wilsongenerally for streamers, it's just a good idea to never say a location. Never say it's just a generally a good idea. >> Okay, we have Dr. Peace. Thank you. What

SPEAKER_02>> part of the reason just I apologize again. >> Wait, donated $69. I'm glad the bunnies fathers of popular

SPEAKER_02New Guinea are showing love, kindness, guidance, charity, and petristic love to members of their society. Truly, they shine with the light of God. >> True. >> The seinal warriors of Papa New Guinea.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Yeah. So, I was going to say again, I do apologize if that wasn't public. Part of the reason why I presume that it was is that I believe that both of us have always been aggressively and openly doxed. I assume that you already had been and I knew that uh in the past you were very open about being from the I

NotSoErudite (Kyla)say vaguely the previous state you were in. I had seen multiple mentions of you publicly online acknowledging which state you were from and in fact not just which state but which kind of area. >> Have you ever noticed I never told

Andrew Wilsonanybody where I was at in that state >> ever for a reason. But the thing is is like uh look I don't I don't hold it against you. I get it. It's just it's just bad etiquette for streamers

SPEAKER_02generally to do that. That's all. Okay. We have airborne animal. >> Airborne animal donated $69. This stupid BTCH.

SPEAKER_02She thinks she dictates what is and is not true, moral, and God's will. To her, smoking is bad, but abortion is good. Just a wannabe degen destiny trying to

SPEAKER_02fast talk her way to a win. >> Um, thank you for the insult. I don't think I dictate what is and is not true. Stust donated $69

SPEAKER_02as a I struggle with smoking. Andrew, can you name a non martyr that enjoyed such a hobby or dismissed its use?

Andrew Wilson>> A non martyr like um a non Well, let's see. I want to make sure I get the question right. Maybe you can rephrase it. A non-martyr.

Andrew WilsonYou say a non-marty. >> Got to send in more money. You can't answer the question. Yeah. >> Well, I want to make sure I get the question right cuz I want I want to lean I want to lean towards like Father Saraphim Rose, but I'm not sure if that would be a non martyr.

SPEAKER_02>> So, I'm just trying to make sure I got it right. >> If you want to clarify, I've got Big Mike. Thank you, Big Mike. >> Big Mike donated $69. I'm Protestant. My father's a Baptist

SPEAKER_02preacher. This is my primary concern with our faith. Women can derive heresies arbitrarily utilizing their own interpretation. What oldies do you listen to, Andrew?

Andrew Wilson>> I've been listening to this one lately. It's It's called um uh what what is what is that oldie called? Oh, yeah.

Andrew WilsonYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes some It's like um it's it this guy has this old school voice and he's like, "Please kill yourself. You'd rather be anywhere but here right now. This is annoying.

Andrew WilsonThis sucks. I just they just want to [ __ ] go eat a cheeseburger." that it goes something like that. It's pretty good. >> Good one.

SPEAKER_02>> Mhm. It's pretty good. >> Saint Isaiah donated $69. NSE. If intelligence were measured by

SPEAKER_02tone, you'd be a genius. Unfortunately, it's measured by substance. Too much equivocation, obfiscating, and gaslighting for us to see any substance.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)Cue the cope. Uh, IQ is not measured by substance. IQ is measured by five uh, primary factors. I'm sure you don't need me to go through them, but okay.

SPEAKER_02>> Nice try. >> AJ Bombastic donated $69. Natural selection must have been on break while this woman's mother was pregnant with her.

Brian Atlas>> I don't even know what they think that that means. Good one. Got him. >> We have Desert Jorge coming in here in just a sec. AJ Bombastic, thank your TTS. Thank you, Jorge. Jorge Hezard. How do you say desert in

SPEAKER_02Spanish? >> Desert Judge donated $69. >> Thank you. >> Operation Paperclip, secret US program that brought over 1,600 German

SPEAKER_02scientists, engineers, and technicians to America after World War II to utilize their expertise for military and technological advancements. >> And they got us to the moon. >> After Yeah, good job.

SPEAKER_02>> Well, they were doing it during, too. Okay, not to anyone's point, but >> Josh donated $70. The docks was likely on purpose. >> Don't do that. >> As a Christian, you say you respect and honor your husband. Yet, you sit there

NotSoErudite (Kyla)in a low cut dress displaying your breasts for every man in the world. Why? >> Uh, was not on purpose. And, uh, this is a dress that my husband picked out and told me that I should wear to this show.

Andrew Wilson>> So, take it up with him. >> I don't think I don't think that she would try to dox on purpose. I don't think that. >> Okay.

SPEAKER_02What the heck? >> Owners donated $69. I think you should just eat your pizza before it grows mold on it. >> I don't think that's uh I don't think

Brian Atlasyour timeline is good here for mold development. It'll be okay. Don't worry. Don't worry about my food eating. Okay, I guess. >> Thank you, Onus. We have XJ Law coming in and then Onus again and then it looks

SPEAKER_02like we have currently two more after that. Thank you on appreciate it guys. Uh >> XJ Lord call us in here guys. >> So desperate to be right she'll quibble

SPEAKER_02about any minute detail until the audience forgets what they were originally debating. Then she literally asks Andrew for evidence to support her argument. Lol.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Good reframing. Good rei revision of the entire conversation. just like did what he said. >> I did. I didn't. >> He literally did what he just said. >> Yeah. The only one

SPEAKER_02>> donated $69. [cough] >> Just eat the pizza already. It's growing mold. >> Man, that guy really wants me to eat this pizza. I wonder why >> you did say if somebody sends in $200. >> Oh, $200 collectively.

SPEAKER_02>> On this if you >> I She said 200. That's her fee. That's her her >> Well, I'm not making any of this. So >> that's her ask for her to eat the pizza.

SPEAKER_02>> Leftists will destroyed donated $69. Eerodite Andrew said what we were all thinking. You come across as a smug condescending bunnies. PS Andrew, thank

SPEAKER_02you for graping Matt Diller Hunty. That guy robbed me of a relationship with God as a kid. >> You're welcome. >> I'm sure leftist will be destroyed as a really unbiased source of my career. [laughter]

SPEAKER_02Thanks for calling [snorts] a buddy. >> King Ryan donated $69. >> Appcate it. >> Kyler, you think you're being cute and snarky, but it actually comes across as

NotSoErudite (Kyla)condescending. Andrew was kind to point it out. I feel the same. You have real potential. >> He always did. >> So, this is patronizing, right? By saying, "Come on, kid. You have real

NotSoErudite (Kyla)potential. Just being a a snarky, condescending bitch." is is actual condescension. Which is fine. I'm not accepting your advice. Sorry. >> It's funny. She always did. She always did actually have potential for this.

Andrew WilsonIt's just that she just always came across the audience as being condescending and unlikable. Always. >> Unlike you, the most likable man on the planet. >> I mean, again, the feedback I remember

Andrew Wilsongoing into the DGG servers years ago and talking to those guys and that was all of their complaints. Like, they hated a lot of the orbiters. That's true. They hated some less than others. A lot of them liked Max for a long time, for

Andrew Wilsoninstance. But the thing is is like Max, I understand that they steered away because he was weird. Destiny actually kept Aerodite on for a long time. Like she had a long time to develop that

Andrew Wilsonrelationship with that audience and they just never warmed up. They just always thought she wasable. >> How many times did it go on his stream? >> Destiny's. >> Mhm. >> Oh, between Bridges and >> Not Bridges. That's not his stream.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Yes, it is. >> Nobody tuned into [ __ ] Bridges for you, Aerodite. They didn't give a [ __ ] about you. When did I say that? >> They That's Destiny stream, too. >> No, it's it's not Destiny. A large portion of his audience didn't transfer

Andrew Wilsonover to Bridges. Most of it did. >> All of the audience that did was his. >> I agree. >> Yeah. So then what are you arguing about? >> I'm saying what >> bridges was show. You were on his show all the time, including Bridges. >> I was not on his stream most of the time

Andrew Wilsoncuz I am a baby [ __ ] >> Yeah, most of the time on on both of those are his streams. >> Bridges is not his stream. >> Bridges was his stream. >> Okay. You were not the appeal for Bridges. >> I didn't say I was.

Andrew Wilson>> I mean, I'm just good. Then it was Destiny's stream, right? >> No, I would say it was dominantly his audience that pulled down. >> Why wasn't it dominantly your audience that left with you? >> I think he's like >> because you never converted. You never

NotSoErudite (Kyla)converted DGers. You just didn't do it. Not in you could never get them to really warm up to you. >> I mean, like day one of me attempting to stream, I had three viewers like most people and then I talked to Destiny and I jumped immediately at like 200. So,

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> yeah, they were checking you out. I agree. >> The problem was only sexuality. Well, they stayed. I I maintained 200 for like ever. In fact, it's like most of my baseline. >> Yeah. You don't have the same 200 you had originally. >> Maybe you have some of them, but the

Andrew Wilsonthing is it's interesting is it's like I don't even know. What is there even to argue here? The truth is is that that was the most common complaint from DGG was that you're unlikable. It was the most It's

NotSoErudite (Kyla)the most common complaint about your stream is that you're very unlikable person. >> I mean, the most common really hot >> is that you're a hypocrite who doesn't live out any of his values because he like purports to be some like

NotSoErudite (Kyla)conservative man converted like 2 years ago. You have like a sorted history of the right I I don't even know why you're attacking me right now. >> What do you mean? I don't know. >> I'm not This isn't even If you get personal, I get personal. If you get

NotSoErudite (Kyla)personal, >> this isn't even personal. I'm just telling you it's the most common complaint was >> I'm telling you the most common >> these guys are asking what they're wondering. >> Wait, I'm just telling you the most common complaint. It's not personal. Well, I'm just saying this is the most common complaint of your channel. >> You know what's >> is that you're dishonest, bad faith, and

NotSoErudite (Kyla)a hypocrite. >> Sure. From who? >> Uh, multiple people that I talked to. >> Can you name anyone who's not a leftist? >> Can you name a specific individual that you've talked to about this? >> About you? Oh, yeah. Sure. Absolutely. Let's talk about Dubbie. He's right there in the chat.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah, he doesn't like me. >> Well, it's not that he doesn't like you. He just knows that the problem with your stream is that you're unlikable. >> That's what he said. >> Yeah, of course. >> I don't believe you. >> I don't care what you believe. Ask him. >> I will.

Andrew Wilson>> And you know what he'll say? He'll be like, "Well, yeah, Andrew's right. I look, Aerodite, you're a nice person. I like you. You're great. Blah, blah, blah. But yeah, the reason that your streams really probably never took off is because you're just kind of supremely

NotSoErudite (Kyla)unlikable." >> I mean, going from 200 viewers and then maintaining that uh despite basically never really streaming, that already puts me in like the top 01%. And here's the issue. I don't think I'm a big streamer. I don't really care about any

NotSoErudite (Kyla)of these things. >> I'm You're just saying I'm not making it personal. These are just all the reasons why you uh get one. >> Unlike me, unlike me, the famous conservative, this is the reason why you won't make it, silly woman. And this is

NotSoErudite (Kyla)why, you know, you're kind of bad and trash. Okay. I'm not being personal. I'm just saying the reason that people don't like you, that you don't get badges to certain cons that you would like to go to, the reason why you're rejected. You

NotSoErudite (Kyla)know the cons. >> No, I don't. Which do TP USA is a good example? >> I never wanted to go. >> Okay. >> Never. I was it was requested that I go >> No, it was not. >> Yes, it was. >> No, you asked for a badge. >> You want the proof?

Andrew Wilson>> Uh, sure. >> Okay, here's the proof. >> Did they ask you and then not give you Why didn't they give you a badge? >> It wasn't TP USA who asked me. I was asked by a third party. >> The party did. So, was that me asking? >> I didn't say it was you. I said they don't want you there. They didn't want

Andrew Wilsonyou to give you a media pass. >> First of all, I don't think that TPUSA thinks I have any interest of wanting to go there. But if they let Myin Gains in Yeah. I don't think I would. >> I don't think that they rejected you

Andrew Wilsonbecause of Saturn standards of you can't reject a person who doesn't apply. >> You wanted to go and you >> I never wanted to go. It was requested of me by uncensored America to go. That was it. When I found out that it was

Andrew Wilsonsome like [ __ ] bar across the street they wanted me to debate in. I was like, "Yeah, [ __ ] right. I'm doing that shit."

Brian AtlasUh, we have some super chats. 80 uh El Guapo $100 super chat. Thank you. I just want to say again since the man is back, the woman is dishonoring her husband by

Brian Atlasdressing like a bath house worker, let alone heresies where she's inverting scripture. >> Did I Okay. >> Is there any way to like minimize how many people are paying money to just call me a dirty [ __ ] and like insulting

NotSoErudite (Kyla)my husband? >> Could we min a little bit? >> Let you do that. >> Well, you could skip like the Rachel Wilson one in the same way that you could probably skip it though. >> He should have accidentally, but he didn't. >> I did. I texted Rachel. >> So now he didn't. >> I'm sorry, Rachel. I [ __ ] up. >> But he didn't.

Brian Atlas>> By the way, I [ __ ] up a lot. >> I do think it's fine to skip those. I did I did spill >> I did spill Andrew's beer. >> That's true. >> That is >> the biggest [ __ ] up. >> Uh Doobie, I feel lucky to have met you both when you started this journey.

Brian AtlasHappy to see you both grow and hope you're doing well. Oh, nice. Thank you for the nice message, Doobie. Appreciate it. We have uh she's trying to submit I don't know what currency that is. >> What is that?

Brian Atlas>> Two two million of >> Anybody chat? What currency is that? She's trying to submit Christians. Nathan, can you figure out what currency that is? Tell me what the chat is saying. Uh, she's trying to submit Christians. Why would it be okay to rule

Brian AtlasChristians, but not for Christians to rule? Submit to your man. Not only pretend to honor him. Let the Christians rule. America got degenerated. She might be narcissistic. No long-term plan. How about truth and honesty for once? Okay. What?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Okay. >> What is it? >> I'm not, >> Nathan. >> Are they saying? >> They probably aren't sure. It's very obscure. Maybe he can send in another two million, whatever that is to >> probably like $3.

Andrew Wilson>> It's probably like $2. [laughter] I was say it's probably I'll actually stop the chat and I'll look up the denomination [laughter] and if it's if it's only like 350, I just kick the person from the channel. >> I'll get that from Argentina. They'll

Brian Atlassend like 5,000, but it's like $3. >> Yeah, $3.50. [snorts] >> It's dong Vietnamese dong. >> This is the same one again. >> Uh I just want to say again since the

Brian Atlasman is back. He sent it again. Oh, just one woman is dishon this is a subsequent one. Uh dishonoring her husband by dressing like let alone heresies where she's inverting scripture from >> my husband bought me the dress likes

Brian Atlaswhen I wear it. Encouraged me to wear it here. I'll have to take that off with my husband. >> 2000 Vietnamese dong to us. $77 actually. >> That's pretty good. >> Hey, we shouldn't by the way. Uh

Brian Atlas>> respect. >> Shout out Vietnam. W Vietnam. >> W Vietnam. >> W [laughter] Vietnam. Love that place. >> W Vietnam. Uh, okay. Some TTS has come through.

SPEAKER_02>> Mikey Mike donated $69. Kyler, the more you talk, the harder you make it to underestimate you. >> Wait, that would be a compliment. >> No, it's the opposite. >> The hard the more you talk, it's harder to underestimate you.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That means that if you're not talking, it would be easy to underestimate you. But since you're not talking, right, it's harder to underestimate you. >> Yeah. So, I prove that I'm more worth

NotSoErudite (Kyla)esteem or more worth respecting when I talk versus I'm sure that's not what he meant. He probably meant to say the opposite, but he's definitely saying uh, you know, >> No, he definitely wasn't. >> He was definitely saying that the more

SPEAKER_02because you talk so much, I find it hard to underestimate you. >> That's what he's saying. >> Okay, >> we have Dubbie here. >> Oh, he sent it. >> Doobie donated $69. as a TTS.

Andrew Wilson>> I feel lucky to have met you both when you started this journey. Happy to see you both grow and hope you're doing well. >> Yeah, nice to see you, Doobie. >> Well, Doobie, thank you for uh >> Duby has a rough gig over there. He runs

Andrew Wilsonthe politics Discord and it's the largest political discord I think in the world and it's like he has so many people there. It's like a small city and

Brian Atlasso we have old man talks. Literally old man talks. They're great talks. I like Dubie. Me, too. >> All right, we have Christian imperialist

SPEAKER_02and then XJ Law. >> Christian imperialist donated $69. Kayla Dox is Andrew, but won't name names. You preach kindness, then make

SPEAKER_02false accusations, feain outrage, and play victim. Calling you joyful is an insult to [ __ ] [ __ ] are likable. You're a CT.

SPEAKER_02>> Yikes. >> Good one. Good good Christian values by the way righting $69

SPEAKER_02she can claw while taking offense to any valid criticism have an inkling of self-awareness and disappear with dignity back into obscurity. We respect you for it. >> Uh I'm not interested in dunks. I'm interested in good conversation, which

Andrew Wilsonis why I'm disappointed by the conversation with Andrew because I know he's fully capable of it, but he wasn't willing to engage in it, which is too bad. >> From her perspective, what she means by bad faith is when I actually make arguments >> and I make arguments based on the

Andrew Wilsonworldview that she has and show that hers is [ __ ] insane. It makes no sense. >> I've already define bad faith by what I mean by it. I've been very clear. >> Yeah. And I'm I'm going to define that by what you Here's what you say bad faith is versus what you actually think

NotSoErudite (Kyla)bad faith is because you call every [ __ ] person bad faith. >> I don't. >> Is Rob bad faith? >> Uh sometimes. I said everyone's bad faith. >> They're all bad faith. >> Wait, I said from the very beginning. >> Is Rob mostly bad faith? >> I don't think so. No, I've had really

Andrew Wilsongood debates with Rob Nor. >> Okay, so he's mostly good faith. >> Uh a lot of the time. Yeah. >> Okay, gotcha. So when you're on Destiny stream and you say Rob Nor is extremely bad faith, what did you mean by that? uh that in many instances Rob Nor I

NotSoErudite (Kyla)don't know if I actually said that many instances. Wait, didn't I also recommend Rob Noir to Lex Friedman show because they were looking for good conservatives that are good faith and I said you should have Rob Nor. >> You were on the Lex Freedman show. >> I wasn't on it. Lex was looking for

NotSoErudite (Kyla)conservatives to come on and debate and I suggested Rob No specifically. >> Yeah. Who else were you going to suggest? Who's a good debater? That >> what I I could have suggested tons of other conservatives.

Andrew Wilson>> Who? Uh uh counter points. >> Jeep Tan. Well, Jeep Tan's actually a good debater, >> but Jeban Jeep Tan's very obscure is a problem. >> Uh Lactoid, >> very obscure.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Rob Nor at the time I was recommending him was also obscure. >> He's still bigger than those guys. >> Uh so >> I mean he's the most logical. >> So you're saying I didn't recommend because bad faith many many times.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Yeah, I've called most people bad faith. Well, well, hold on. The issue is Oh, no. Your whole point is I'm saying everyone's just bad faith all the time. But >> call everyone bad faith. >> No, I said most people are bad faith some of the time, including me, which is what I said to you. I don't know if you remember that. And I said, "People are

NotSoErudite (Kyla)also good faith many of the time." And in our previous exchange, Andrew and I had a good faith conversation, which was why is an interesting debate. And in this conversation, you mostly referred to bad faith tactics, which sucks, but it is what it is. >> See, I feel like it's the opposite. What?

Andrew Wilson>> That's just how you feel, though, man. >> Yeah. Well, objectively, it's the opposite. >> What do you mean? Aren't we just assuming everything? How is it objective? For instance, for instance, when I said >> no objectivity can exist, though. >> For instance, when I said, "Hey, Kyla,

Andrew Wilsonwhy don't we just do I'll do a cross exam and then you can do a cross exam. We can just do it that way." And you're like, "No, no, no, no, no. I need I must break up the monotony of getting to the thing that I want to get to. And let me

Andrew Wilsonbring up a grippa's trilmma, which I wasn't moving towards at all." You were capable of allowing a cross exam. And it's because your bad faith. >> Wait, I allowed you to cross-examine me multiple times. In fact, multiple points where you said, "You're not going to answer this question." I said, "Write it

Andrew Wilsondown and I'll answer the question." >> I refused to answer most of the questions. >> Which question did I refuse to answer? >> Almost every question that I asked you, you respond with a question. >> Give me one then that I >> sure I asked you. I was like, "Well,

Andrew Wilsonlet's talk about how this interjects with uh consensus." I said, "When it comes to consensus, how do we get to the point where if the consensus is that we have Christianity, you know, take up the

Andrew Wilsonmantle, uh why would that be in some way a bad thing? Do you think that Christianity taking taking that up would be a bad thing? Literally stuff. It was it was like that whole debate. >> I said I don't think Christian Christianity taking out the mantle

NotSoErudite (Kyla)necessarily is bad. I think it is bad though if they impose Christian most of your questions with questions. That's bad. >> That's not true. I answered most of your questions with answers and some of them with questions and you can also answer questions with questions.

Andrew Wilson>> Okay, I'll tell you what. >> You're allowed. How about $5? You can afford $5. How about $5? Most of the questions. No. Yes. Most most of the questions I asked you, you responded

Andrew Wilsonwith a question first and I had to literally beat the answer out of you. >> I like 80% when you say most >> over 50. >> That's okay. No, I do not believe that

Andrew Wilsonmost of the questions I answered. >> Like it's a large table. >> Pull it. >> Wait, what did you want me to >> No, no, no. Later. >> Yeah. Yeah. Pull it. I want my $5. I'll

Andrew Wilsonmount it next to the Wes Watson $5. >> Sure. But I'll bet I'll bet it's over 50% of the time that when I asked her a question, she would respond with a question first and then it would have to be out of her. >> Hold on. When you say a question, do you

NotSoErudite (Kyla)mean a clarifying question of what you mean by your question? >> Just any question. >> Is that bad faith to if you say you pose me a question and you use a bunch of debate? Let's just say debate question still the same. >> I would say clarifying your questions is

Andrew Wilsonnot bad faith. >> Yeah. Not we can even take clarifying questions out. And I still think that over 50% of the time you answered with a question and I had to beat the actual answer out of you. >> Okay?

Andrew Wilson>> Whereas I think the opposite's true with me. In fact, I'll clip it both ways. When you ask me a question, I bet you most of the time I said yes or no. Yes or no? Yes. I bet you any Yeah, I'll bet you that I will literally give you

Andrew Wilsonanother You'll grant that >> that you answer that I answer questions, but you don't. >> No, no, no. I Well, no. I said that you answered my questions. But I've never bad you. But you accused me of the whole debate of being bad faith, but I answered all your questions.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Bad faith can mean more than >> Oh, what does it mean? What does it what does it mean? >> It typically means that you are acting as though you were under under the like guise or interest of one thing, but you're actually under the guise or interest of something else. But this can include an internal criticism.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> How what >> you can utilize an internal critique by adopting the worldview of the opposition. >> That's not bad faith. That would be exactly but that what is bad. What is bad faith is pretending as though you

Andrew Wilsonactually granted me a grippers triillemma to appeal to absurdism by >> adopting the position. >> No, because you weren't actually adopting the position because you refused to actually have to adopt the position. You just have to adopt the position for the purpose of the debate.

Andrew Wilson>> No, you have to adopt it. Genu if you're saying I'm not an internal critique. >> You have to grant >> I can't internally critique Brian on being a degenerate unless I in fact adopt that I'm now a degenerate. >> That's not what I said. Then what are you saying? Well, with a grippa

NotSoErudite (Kyla)trillemma, you didn't actually adopt it because you just used it to insist that moral objectivity can't exist. But of course, moral objectivity can and does exist despite the fact that a grippers trilma is unsolved by all philosophical systems. >> That's a contradiction as you'll find

Andrew Wilsonout. [laughter] >> That's literally be and not be. >> It's not. >> No claims could be justified, but also objective truth and objective morality is real. Can you justify that? No. >> So, were you lying when >> like what?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> So, were you lying when you pretended that you were granting me it and that you were working for my How was that pretending if I grant it to you >> because you were saying I believe this now too. Was that true? >> That's adopting the position. >> Wait, no. You said, "No, I literally believe this." And I said, "No,

Andrew Wilson>> that's adopting the position. It can't hurt me ever. If you make the the bold claim that all adoptations of any

Andrew Wilsonworldview reduce to a supposition which is unjustified, you can't even tell me why it would be unjustified for me to be bad [ __ ] faith." What? >> I don't know which which part of that was confusing.

Andrew Wilson>> All of it. >> Do you want me to repeat it? >> Sure. >> Oh, yeah. Sure. So, if all axioms are unjustified, right? If there is no justification for any of the various things that we're doing, period. Because

Andrew Wilsonit all just reduces to whatever our arbitrary preferences are. >> Then and that's what it would reduce to and it would be amoral anti-realism. Nope. Then me even being bad faith. You couldn't even critique that. You can just say, "Oh, you're bad faith, but as

Andrew Wilsonlong as it reduces to an axiom where I'm bad faith because it's a tautology. I'm bad faith because I'm bad faith, then it's fine to be bad faith." >> So then I asked you, "Okay, so since you're rejecting what I'm proposing, how do you >> I don't I never have to answer that. >> How do you solve a group of trial?"

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> You don't have to. >> Of course you do. If I present you, >> how do I have to solve >> Because if I present you this [ __ ] thousand-y old question >> because you're pretending as though it's not a like strong argument against what you're saying. So I'm presenting like something comparable to a trolley problem. the viewing view makes my

NotSoErudite (Kyla)point. >> No, the issue is what I'm saying is here's like comparatively the youthro dilemma. How do you solve it? And you're going youth dilemma itself is circular so it doesn't matter and nothing's real and never said anything about the trolley problem. Those are two things

Andrew Wilsonyou continuously brought up never mentioned them once. >> You're right. I'm using them analogously. >> I can adopt correct I can adopt the entirety of the view of >> I'm asking you to solve a trolley problem or a grippers and you won't

Andrew Wilsonsolve it. I can't well the the trolley you want me to solve the trolley problem. >> No, I want you to solve a Grippa's trilmma. >> Okay. But again, it's unnecessary to do so if it's granted and we've destroyed all moral realism. The Christian

Andrew Wilsonnationalism itself you would could have no objection to because there's no moral there's no moral facts. >> You obviously object to this. >> There's no reason to object to it. >> But you do. >> No. Literally, I'm gonna explain this in

Andrew Wilsonreally small words. There's no reason to for me to ever object to a worldview which affirms that if I institute Christian nationalism, you can't object to it morally. There's never reason for

NotSoErudite (Kyla)me to go against that ever. >> It's not my worldview or anything else. >> It is your worldview. You don't know it. It's going to get pointed out to you a million times. >> I'm sure your audience is going to be super super happy. Bill will pick the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)whole thing up. You'll see. >> Okay. So, the issue is can you solve a grippers trilmma? If you think that a grippers trile necessarily means that there's no moral objectivity, you obviously believe that there is such a thing as moral objectivity. So how do you solve a grippers dilemma? >> Why do I need to engage in that in a

NotSoErudite (Kyla)debate about Christian national? >> Because if I provide you a philosophical test of thinking, it's the same thing if I present like a a proifer the trolley problem, you need to engage in it because it's a test of logic. >> Listen, if >> to be an honest interlocutor, you should

Andrew Wilson>> to be an honest interlocator. All you ever have to do ever if a person gives you the view and the argument for their view in this case your argument for your view was that all moral claims are

Andrew Wilsonreductions to axioms those reductions in axiom are suppositions therefore there's no moral facts therefore everything >> suppositions they're often often

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> yeah they're you're literally saying this is not objectively true you're destroying the possibility >> I never said that I said that they're unjustifiable and so if you reject this I say that's fine How do they when I ask

Andrew Wilsonyou how do they how do they exist outside of the mind? You have to say because I suppose they do. It's a subjective. >> How do you think that they exist? >> You don't need to ever answer. >> So you never have to engage in a grip of trma because you know that it's

Andrew Wilsondefeating and you don't want to engage >> to my worldview it supports it. It doesn't hurt it. >> It you getting out of my way for Christian nationalism is good. >> It great.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> None of this does this. >> It does. You refusing to engage with a philosophical test of logic just proves that you're afraid of this test of logic. >> Oh, >> I can just answer it honestly and you won't. >> Mhm. All right.

SPEAKER_02>> Okay. >> Okay. We got some chats coming through. >> Iron [snorts] Kangles donated $69. >> Thank you, Iron. >> He said popular, not famous. >> He isn't nice, but he's honest equals

SPEAKER_02likable. You want likable? Be real enough to take a bite of that pizza. [laughter] Nothing authentic about you. Arguing over his opinion equals low status. >> Okay.

SPEAKER_02>> Uh, Kangles, thank you very much. We have Oh, wait. Did I just miss one? Uh, no. >> Desert Judge [snorts] donated $69. >> Thank you.

SPEAKER_02>> Oh, Andrew. A few of us showed up to that UNCK America Destiny [ __ ] show in Phoenix before we got the word. You and Myron got dissed by them. We have a bottle of as bourbon with your name on

SPEAKER_02it. >> Fair. Sorry you guys showed up there. It's too bad. >> Thank you, Desert Jorge. Thank you, George. We got King Ryan here. >> King Ryan donated $69.

SPEAKER_02She answered questions with a question 34 times up until hour three. I have already downloaded, transcribed it, and put it through Grock. Check my work. >> Sounds right. Can you give us the

Andrew Wilsonopposition of how many times Can you give us the opposition of how many times I answered a question with a question? >> Wait, first of all, the questions have to be non-clarifying questions. >> Oh, Lord. >> Well, that's what you agreed to. And

NotSoErudite (Kyla)I've never said that you didn't that you wouldn't answer uh that you uh I never accused you of this thing. >> Yeah, I know. I'm accusing you of it. Saying that that's bad faith. >> Then why do we care about whether it's bad faith? >> It's not bad faith. >> It is bad faith to answer questions with

Andrew Wilsonquestions. >> No, it is not. >> Can I ask you a question? Yeah. [snorts] >> Okay. Um, which way is up? Okay. You see how easy that was? Why would it why would there be a requirement that you ask me a question

NotSoErudite (Kyla)about that? >> Well, sometimes if were you using terms that could be loaded and ambiguous? I need to clarify what you mean by bad or good or better. >> Do you think most of those questions were clarifications or do you think most of those questions was you saying what

NotSoErudite (Kyla)would you do then? What would you do? A lot of them were clarifying questions and then there was multiple times where I tried to turn your question on yourself to internally critique you to highlight that your internal critique of me and being like look how absurd and unjustifiable it is falls apart for you

Andrew Wilsontoo. That's typically what I was doing particularly helps my position. [laughter] >> It doesn't help your position. It doesn't it doesn't matter if the entire morality of the thing falls apart then me implementing whatever the [ __ ] I want is fine. Like I don't know why you don't

SPEAKER_02get that >> because >> J Dire tried to show you that too but >> yeah J D the king of philosophy truly >> hxrr donated $69

SPEAKER_02>> I'll happily oblige Brian you belly rubbing burrito loving beard dropping brown turd shirtw wearing f slur also arrogance and ignorance are never a good look and always a bad combo urite

SPEAKER_02>> how do we learn to spell >> thank you Why? Why would I ever need to respond to this in a serious way? >> You don't. >> Okay, cool. >> It's just

SPEAKER_02>> Christian imperialist donated $69. Christian values like God's commandment, thou shalt not suffer a witch to live or in hawk signes. Tell me how women w/3 or

SPEAKER_02more abortions don't t meet the clinical criteria of a serial killer. [snorts] >> What is inhero vinces? What is that? Do you guys know? >> I do not know. >> I'm not familiar with it. I also don't

SPEAKER_02know if it's God's commandment that we live. [music] >> Well, thank you, Christian. >> Donated $69. >> Thank you, XJ. >> Bad faith is her crutch and her biggest projection. Deadly combination of ignorance and dishonesty because she

SPEAKER_02can't bear to accept her fragile ego being destroyed. >> Nathan, can you lower the volume to 80 for us? >> Uh, thank you, XJ. Appreciate it. I don't know if you wanted to respond to that. >> Uh, volume. >> I don't know what why I would respond.

SPEAKER_02Okay. Uh, we have Body IQ. >> Bodyic donated $69. Great performance, Kyler. Props on engaging for hours with painfully bad faith. Andrew, who can't open an olive

Andrew Wilsonjar and personally insults you while acting as though he said nothing offensive. >> I don't really think I said much offensive. No. >> Okay. Did I? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, you went like you

Andrew Wilsonalways go nuclear. You're like, you're fat and you're this, you're that. >> You said [laughter] you said I'm unsaved. >> Well, no, I didn't say that. >> That's a You did. You said No, I never said that. Not a Christian. >> Nope. Never said that either.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> I said I was You asked me, "Are you questioning my faith?" I said, "Yes." >> I said, "Do you think I'm not a Christian?" You said, "Well, actually, you came and said, "Yeah, she's not a Christian. She's not a Christian." >> That never happened. >> Okay. >> Do you want to bet on that one, too? >> Uh, sure.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Okay. >> I'm not $100. >> I don't have $100. >> You don't have $100? No, not for this. >> You might have $100. You're more popular because you weren't so [ __ ] unlikable. [laughter] >> Is Was that personal or was that not

NotSoErudite (Kyla)personal? I'm not sure. >> It's a true statement. It's just true. >> It's true. But so it can't be an insult. It's true. So it can't be an insult. Got it. Maybe that true that you're overweight. It's true that you're a hypocrite. >> That's true. >> Well, that's not true. >> That's definitely true.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Oh, what's the hypocrisy? >> Uh your entire worldview versus like the way that you live. You offer like so much grace to yourself and almost no grace to others. >> Who do I not offer grace to? Uh me, most other people. >> What a grace have I not offered you? >> Uh you uh sit here and tell me that I'm

Andrew Wilsonnot saved. >> I didn't tell I' never sit here and tell you that you're not >> [ __ ] happened. >> Yes, it did. >> No, it didn't. I made it up. >> Why then did I go on a long conversation about Raqqa? >> Because what happened was you said, "Are you going to question my faith?" And I

NotSoErudite (Kyla)said, >> "Yes." >> That's not saying my salvation. >> Yes. Even qu even if I said I have a yes, I'm questioning this. That's not saying you aren't the thing. You were not saying it in this like I'm just not sure. Yeah. I'm questioning whether or

NotSoErudite (Kyla)not you're >> ever said you were unsaved. It never happened. You made it up. >> You have no opinion on whether or not I have salvation. >> I I'm not going to make a salvific claim. >> But I can definitely question a self-ific claim. >> So, do you think I'm a Christian?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Well, based on what you said here, um I would question the veracity of the Christianity. Yes. >> Okay. So then why would I clarified before when you came and said, "Yeah, she's not a Christian." I said, "Wait, are you saying that I'm not saved? I'm not a Christian." That's different than

Andrew Wilsonmaking a salvific claim. >> Yeah, I am saying that. And I said, well, I would be very cautious. I wouldn't >> different than a salvific claim, which I did not make. >> Sure. You weren't commenting on my salvation. >> I wouldn't even say Christian. I would say heresy. I think you're a heretic.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Sure, that's fine that you think that, but when you say I'm not a Christian, you were obviously commenting on my status of salvation. Obviously, >> no, that's not commenting on your salvation. I think that there's non-Christians who can be saved. >> Okay. [laughter]

Andrew Wilsonlike one like like what like how >> well I don't know what the methodologies of gods are the orthodox church the orthodox church would never make a self-e claim >> so how can a non-Christian be saved >> well because we don't know the dominion

Andrew Wilsonof god and there could be instances where question there could be instances of people who we would consider to be heretics or something like this who could potentially be saved we would not think that that's likely but it's possible

Andrew Wilson>> so you think I'm not a Christian but maybe I'm still saved >> I would not make a salvific fit claim just saying it's it see it if we're looking at likelihoods if you're not a Christian the likelihood of your salvation is much lower than your likelihood if you had salvation

Andrew Wilson>> I don't know why you're running from this so hard >> there's no running I that's literally a coherent answer >> I'm not a Christian you don't think I'm a Christian >> that's not the same as saying you're unsaved >> uh for by and large it does >> no by and large is not the same as

Andrew Wilsonsaying it though >> uh you're right it's it's implying it >> no it's not even implying it it's just saying that your chances if you were a Christian of being saved are much higher than if they're not. That's all I'll say. >> So, I'm asking for an example of a

Andrew Wilsonnon-Christian who's saved. >> Again, I how would I have access to that information? >> So, you think that I might be one of those? The >> non possible. I just think that the chances and likelihood of non-Christians being saved are very low. >> Gotcha. So, then when I said you

NotSoErudite (Kyla)probably shouldn't comment on my salvation, you shouldn't call me like you shouldn't say like Raqqa. Why did you fight against me on that? >> What do you mean? I I didn't I didn't say you were unsaved. >> Well, it was pretty clear that I was taking it to suggest that I'm not a Christian. You're taking it. I didn't say that. >> Uh, you did say that I'm not a

NotSoErudite (Kyla)Christian. >> I didn't say it. Well, I didn't say you were unsaved, though. >> Okay. >> What's What where's P and not P? Where's the contradiction? >> The contradiction here is that there are obvious implications when people that are sending in are saying that I'm not

NotSoErudite (Kyla)Christian. >> You agree with the TTS that comes and when I clarify and I say, "Are you saying that I'm not saved, that I'm not Christian?" You said, "Yes." >> Are implications contradictions? >> Um, they can be. >> No, they can't.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Of course. How can an implication be a contradiction? >> Because if I say for example like I think feminists are just uh acts right but by all the ways that I engage around talking about feminists it's clear that I I say feminism is just about the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)equality of sexism but the only way that I engage around feminism is talking poorly of men being misandress and trying to take away men's rights. Well just because I say all these things doesn't mean that we would imply that I believe make an inference of hypocrisy

NotSoErudite (Kyla)or something like this but it's not a propositional contradiction. Sure. It's not a propositional contradiction. Contradiction of my worldview. >> No, it's not even contradicting your worldview. >> If I say that I'm for you hold the

Andrew Wilsonworldview that feminists are evil and yourself be a feminist, there's no [ __ ] contradiction there. >> Okay. >> There's none. >> Okay. >> What's the contradiction? Where's P and not P?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> I would say that if you say I believe in X and then all of your actions, the way that you talk about it suggest that you believe in Y, then yeah, we would go, maybe you don't actually believe. Implications aren't contradictions.

Andrew WilsonPropositions have contradictions. You're pointing to like maybe hypocrisy. Maybe. >> Yeah, maybe. >> That's not a contradiction, though. >> It could be. >> Could hypocrisy >> contradictory of your worldview.

Andrew Wilson>> Is it possible that hypocrisy can propositionally be a contradiction? Maybe. But hypocrisy is not contradiction. Contradictions are propositional. >> So there are things that exist outside of deductive logic, right?

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Inductive logic. Yeah. And so one of the things that we can utilize with inductive logic is like what it implies. >> Well, that's inductive reasoning. Yeah. >> That's not inductive logic. >> Well, we use inductive logic for inductive reasoning.

Andrew Wilson>> No, you don't need to use inductive logic for inductive reasoning either. >> Okay. >> There's Well, you can smirk, but what's the difference between Do you know that there's a difference between reason and logic? Right. >> Yep.

NotSoErudite (Kyla)>> Okay. So, then when I say inductive reason, does that require inductive logic? >> Typically, yeah. >> Okay. Typically or does. >> Yeah, kind of does. I don't know what other type of inductive reasoning we're doing if we're not utilizing. So what is reason then? >> Huh? >> What is reason?

Andrew Wilson>> I'm not sure you did. >> Is reason logic? >> They're not one to one. >> So what is reason? >> What are we doing right now? >> Asking you what reason is. >> How did we get here from >> because I'm trying to figure out if inductive logic and inductive reason are

NotSoErudite (Kyla)the same thing. What is see what I mean? It's offiscation again. [laughter] >> Andrew's bad faith. I just never answer any [ __ ] questions. That when you said that I wasn't a Christian, I said, "Are you saying that I'm not saved? That I'm not a Christian?"

Andrew Wilson>> Never said you were You never said >> I said it and you agreed to it. >> Never happened. >> Okay. >> I mean, just making it up. I didn't say you were unsaved. >> Okay. >> A heretic. Yes. Unsaved. Didn't make

Brian Atlasthat claim. >> Okay. >> You want more tequila? >> I didn't literally say the words. >> I'll have one more shot. Yeah. >> Uh, one more shot, please. Gon. One more shot. What's the difference between reason and logic? What are we doing right now? That's the difference.

SPEAKER_02What are we doing? >> I don't really drink anymore. Yeah, thanks. So, >> what are we doing right now? >> What are we doing right now, Andrew? >> Two chats >> based Justin donated $69. The woman is dishonoring the debate. Dot

SPEAKER_02by dressing like a bath house worker and not eating the pizza. Very bad faith. Just eat the pizza. >> I think it is increasingly weird that all these TTS really want me to eat the

NotSoErudite (Kyla)pizza. It might suggest what I was going to before why they want me to eat the pizza. >> Justice is justice. >> Do you disagree with >> Ryan donated

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