He Got Her PREGNANT And Then GHOSTED?! Boss Babe Makes Brian LOSE IT?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #233

Date: 2025-03-10

Duration: 7h 40m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSavannah (Tucson)>

KKatie Robertson >

AAlexis (Fashion)>

LLydia (Author)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_03Carly (Chef)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Priscilla(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lydia (Author)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Savannah (Tucson)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Alexis (Fashion)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Katie Robertson(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentSavannah: got pregnant by famous YouTuber who ghosted her. Had abortion.

Key MomentKatie: had surgical abortion 1 week before show. Cost ~$4K.

Key MomentKatie: £3M on OnlyFans, owns 3 properties

Key MomentKatie sells foot skin scrapings (£500), nail clippings (£500) to fans

ControversyCarly: signed cheating ex up on Grindr for 2 days as revenge

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Savannah, Felicity, Katie Robertson, Alexis, Carly, Priscilla, Lydia.

Savannah Pregnant by YouTuber

Got pregnant by car destruction YouTuber who ghosted. Had abortion.

Katie Abortion Last Week

Had surgical abortion 1 week before show. $4K cost. On birth control.

Katie £3M OnlyFans

£3M over 3 years. 3 properties. Arsenal footballer connection.

Carly Grindr Revenge

Signed cheating ex up on Grindr. Men sent explicit photos to his phone.

Immigration Debate

Extended debate between Savannah and Brian over deportation.

Body Count Round

Katie ~45. Savannah 7. Felicity 2. Priscilla ~30.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasher part getting hit okay you said uh can men and women be friends do the fact we were born to F each other and it's a very controversial type topic I think oh

Priscillayou wrote tii can men and wom be friends yeah but women and women have sex with each other too and men and men have sex with each other yeah men and women can be friends yeah they can yeah I have a

Brian Atlaslot of guy friends that are just my friend I have ating opin I honestly I would debate it but I they could be friends it depends like how friendly I just think justes with I don't even think it's an interesting topic to

Brian Atlasdebate though so I would I just disagree with you guys but I just I also disagree with it's not that interesting has anyone seen Harry Met Sally When Harry Met Sally it's been a long time it's an old

Priscillalove yes I've seen the movie why because that's what their uh argument is the whole movie they're like men and women cannot be friends men and women cannot be friends so what did the movie

Brian Atlasand then do they end up together in the end well let you guys watch it so it's probably okay to spoil a 30-year-old movie or whatever on the whatever podcast they haven't watched it

Brian Atlasby now watch it it's good it's like uh Darth vad Darth Vader isuk I think it's okay if we I think it's

Brian Atlasokay if we talk but okay um last week you said you got a call from a fan who bought a first class ticket for you to Dubai yeah yeah so flew to F him and he

Katie Robertsonwas how old he's like 85 oh and what about girl so he he was one of my fans and that's why I went

Katie Robertsonlike I went on holiday in duai cuz my job's illegal there so he flew me there and then on from there he flew me he lived in Sydney that's why we went

Katie RobertsonAustralia for four weeks okay and met him did I I didn't do full on I did like a little bit with him and then he paid

Brian Atlasme a lot of money how much like six grand that's it six grand and you said he had the what zeros he had what oh

Brian Atlasit's like a h job no but what did he have what do you mean what did he have in your notes what did he have what did

Brian Atlashe have trying to think he had the B biggest oh yeah yeah yeah yeah still working at that AG did your [ __ ]

Brian Atlasmanager write this [ __ ] for you bro she doesn't it be me it'll be my spelling okay um so he was 85 you said he had a massive PP um yeah but I was quite like

Katie Robertsonwhat the hell wait hold on he got you he lived in Australia you live in the UK he got you a ticket cuz you have to go to Dubai first do you yeah then you have to

Brian Atlasgo from Dubai on has anybody here been to Australia not yet no I did a transfer there wait is this you if you live in the if you live in Europe this guy he surfs bro he's like no that's [ __ ]

Brian AtlasI've been austral a couple times you surf right yeah yeah I just go right there but she was coming you Le In from from uh the US right yeah from UK to go

Katie Robertsonto Dubai yeah you can go Singapore wait so are you just talking about just like a layover flight uh I did well he did it so that I could have a holiday I paid for my divice speak

Katie Robertsonspeak into the BR speak into to the mic speak M so he got me a flight as a transfer but he left in between debay and going on to Sydney a week so we went

Brian Atlason holiday there sure okay I'm not going to I'm not going to press the I'm not going to press the is well is it really is that how you get to Australia but okay uh you said you wanted

Brian Atlasto um actually no I think that's it for your notes uh we have Alexis he you said you haven't dated in the modern world because you're freshly out

Alexis (Fashion)of a 10-year relationship yes so like I've never been on dating apps or like oh [ __ ] gone on dates like that D it's it's bad my sister tried to hook

Brian Atlasme up with someone and it was horrible not horrible literally nothing I mean who match up to a cheating rapper I mean it's like your the bar has been set

Alexis (Fashion)really high you know what I like to think uh that he was just more than a cheating rapper though he was so much more than that yeah he had his flaws

Alexis (Fashion)yeah everyone has their flaws right yeah but there's definitely uh uh people that are not as I don't know I guess you could say like what was wrong with the guy that

Alexis (Fashion)you your sister set you up with what was wrong total douche douche you don't like douche bands no I don't like why was he douchy I mean the fact that the guy

Alexis (Fashion)would like literally always drink and drive and then on top of that yeah and then even after you make

Brian Atlasthat do you drink and drive no I just you just D recklessly guess for fun for funsies wait so he was douchy and he was

Brian Atlasa DUI guy yeah but like bad decision making and things like that okay your sister set you up with yeah my sister set me up got be a little you got to be a little upset with a sister then I guess uh you said your date got beat up

Alexis (Fashion)by his brother that was him yeah wait the yeah I made sure that he like got home safe and his brother was there and whooped his ass like real bad wait why did the brother beat up they were both

Alexis (Fashion)drunk I think it just ran like I don't know it was horrible I was like is this happening and I'm just standing there like I'm never going on a like a blind

Alexis (Fashion)Day Ever [ __ ] younger brother or older brother uh I I his older brother his older brother beat him up yeah do you know do you recall what the argument was about literally nothing they were just

Alexis (Fashion)fine and they were drinking and I was about to head out and they just his brother just started swinging on him damn and beat him up so bad there was blood everywhere like hospital had to go to hospital yeah stitches black guy like

Alexis (Fashion)was he was he knocked yeah he got knocked out he got knocked out and his brother was like his brother was like six something and like probably like 400

Alexis (Fashion)lb and just whooped his ass for no reason and I was like you know what got to go I kind of see where he was getting at though but they were both wasted they were first they started drinking and

Brian Atlasthen yeah it was crazy damn I definitely called my sister and she so you were were you just kicking it in the corner watching your date get [ __ ] up basically um I was just like okay he got into his like were you trying to break

Alexis (Fashion)it up how tall are you I'm definitely do not try to break it up were you trying to get in the wall I'm I look I know better than to get involved with two men fighting I stood right there and I was like you know what I'm about to leave

Alexis (Fashion)like that was insane that was probably one of the CRA this is my side to leave yeah yeah had you guys hooked up no no no hooking up okay no hooking up all right well hey you know and then uh you

Alexis (Fashion)said splitting you wanted to talk about splitting the bill unrealistic I want to know what people's perspective is on that like what do people think about not just splitting bills but in general like

Alexis (Fashion)first dat in general first dat or just in general in life like I'm fine with that because like you you do you go 50/50 with your man um she pays her man

Katie Robertsonhe's employ basically we go out for dinner and he cuz he's not on as much as me he'll put what he he would like the 30% towards you know and me like if I go like no bo cuz I like going there it's

Katie Robertsonso expensive say if the bill was like 280 put maybe like the 880 and I'd put the 200 so I obviously pay more but I earn a lot more than he

Alexis (Fashion)does okay take me out there sometimes but it be like to places he would afford so 5050 oh also for you for the right person but not for a long time no my uh

Lydia (Author)my husband and I all of our money goes into one account so I guess technically 5050 because we literally have one bank account and I mean granted my my husband's disabled so he doesn't have a j job right now uh we're working on

Lydia (Author)getting disability and the Arizona state government sucks um but uh when he was working all of our money his paychecks my paychecks all went into the same account it was never like this is your money this is my money it's like it's

Lydia (Author)our money we pay for everything out of our anal when you're married too oh [ __ ] I pay if she has my back in a fight who what someone's like I pay if she has my

Carly (Chef)back in a fight it's related to the the brother fight brother fight situ so they'll pay if you got their back uh so I guess uh 50/50 or should

Brian Atlasthe guy pay I'm down with 50/50 is it like negative a little negative brownie points if the guy's like two checks no not really you're fine with it I make more than you make more than most men

Brian Atlasokay especially in Tucson in Arizona yeah okay what about you I don't do 50/50 but if other people want to do that it's fine okay but you prefer the guy paying for the first date yeah my

Alexis (Fashion)boyf pays um 5050 5050 you prefer well I would do 50/50 for the right person yeah for the for the first day for the right

Alexis (Fashion)person but you prefer no I don't have a preference I mean cuz I make my own money and I make good money so I like I like to spend my money okay what about you for the first date no I would not do 5050 you want the

Carly (Chef)guy to pay for the yeah I mean that I think is the most denten thing to do and I believe in the old school ways for sure old school ways okay yeah I prefer for the man to pay

Priscillafor the first date and then if we see each other longer then we probably my friend

Lydia (Author)5050 right me uh I've gone on One Like official date where you go out to a restaurant and I had to pick the dude up

Lydia (Author)at his house cuz he didn't have a car uh he's and then we 5050 at the restaurant and then I never saw him again but it wasn't because of the 50/50 thing it was because he

Brian Atlassucked okay yeah I mean I think yeah if the woman's traditional then you should be traditional if she's not traditional she can uh pay for her own bill that seems

Katie Robertsonlike a fair osition I'd always offer on the first day but then they usually end up paying yeah you know what screw that the woman should pay oh here we go the

Brian Atlaswoman should pay for the entire thing oh because how am I supposed to know that you're serious about me if you don't that's what that's sort of how I feel I feel like we're just friends if you don't pay

Brian Atlasyou as a woman you don't pay for the I feel like that that's just friends y'all just friend we just friends why don't you tell like you pay for the DAT then I can know that you're feeling me you know

SPEAKER_12then I know you're serious I think it's also like a form of control it's like control yeah like I feel like for the guy that pay for the theer vice versa like I feel like it's like you kind of like like you get to control the

Alexis (Fashion)narrative a little bit what do you what do you mean yeah like if a if a if two people go on a date right and you're like you're paying you don't really feel obligated to like owe them anything or

Alexis (Fashion)like be a certain way towards them just because they you're the payer you're vice versa this could go for men paying for women whoever's paying though like you feel less obligated to them yeah

Priscillanobody should expect anything anyway like you guys are just going on a date you both know about one another a little

Brian Atlasbit and then the man chose to go on the date with you so he knows Daman we're getting reflection we need to drop hold on uh do you see what I'm talking about

Brian AtlasDamen I don't want reflection in uh hold on in the windows I'm trying to see which angle it was oh this one we're getting reflection uh we need to like

Priscillamove the chair okay do you see it just make it work behind the scenes go ahead I don't think also I want to say I don't think it's a matter of you can or it's

Priscillalike you can open your own door you can you can do everything for yourself you could buy your own gifts it's like it's just a nice gesture and if I see that gesture I appreciate it well so would

Brian Atlasyou guys agree with this so I think it's definitely lame these dudes who go on dates with women and they're like they feel entitled to something because they pay like they feel entitled to sex because they pay for the date yeah I think that's weird that's weird that's

Brian Atlaskind of that's creepy but I feel like that has to also apply to women too in a different way so in the same way and I'm 100% on board with this uh if a guy pays for dinner

Brian Atlasyou don't as a woman you don't owe him anything and that's my genuine position you you don't owe him a second date a third date you don't owe him sex 100 I'm 100% on board with this but I don't know

Brian Atlasif women like the like the sort of entailment of where that goes a little bit further as a woman if you have sex with a guy he doesn't owe you a relationship yeah Fair proposition

Brian Atlasabsolutely is that a fair proposition because in the same way that like there are women now it's more complicated because there are dudes who are going to play you and they're going to like front that they're looking for something

Brian Atlasserious and want a relationship and then they and then they hit and then they're gone that's kind of scheming but I do think there there are women who are dating men casually and there hasn't

Brian Atlasbeen any conversation when it comes to anything longterm there hasn't been anything said out in conversation on the man's part the woman's part when it comes to like continuity of the relationship and the girl sleeps with a

Brian Atlasguy and girls get bent out of shape when the guy doesn't call her back or whatever and I think look me personally my Approach is I'm not interested in sleeping with a girl once absent you doing some Dopey [ __ ] like you have to

Brian Atlas[ __ ] up in some way for me to only want to sleep with you once like if I sleep with a girl I want there to be continuity I want to continue dating her but there are men out there who will sleep with a girl just one time and then

Brian Atlasit's a wrap MH but I do think women get kind of bent out of shape and it's like that's kind of the mirror opposite of girls who are like they go on the date

Savannah (Tucson)they're not really feeling the guy and then that's it sometimes guys sleep with you and then they're not feeling you after that so I mean I don't know I do what do you think I think that's a fair

Priscillaassessment okay W me and Sav are agreeing on things I guess I do want to say for First Dates I don't like to go to dinners anymore

Priscillacuz like I went on a dinner date with this guy that he spent a lot of money and I knew when I first walked in the door that I didn't like him like I knew that I didn't like him why' you stay on

Brian Atlasthe date wait hold on wait wait wait before you walk out the the door um had you guys exchanged words yeah but we we didn't but you said you

Priscillawalked wait wait wait hold on you walked in the door and then you know how a person's mannerisms are and how they carry themselves and their whole character and so you're like oh I I

Brian Atlasdon't like that person but did did you even say hi like you saw him from in the distance and then you knew before knew you knew before he even said anything to you this wasn't the guy earlier in the

Priscillaconversation you were making a big ARG argument as to I'm not talking about only looks I'm talking about I'm talking about energy oh the energy I oh the

Brian Atlasenergy but you but earlier you're like how but I don't care about looks blah blah blah and then now you would even talked to the dude you looked at him you physically looked at him and you

Brian Atlasinstantly rejected him it wasn't no we talked to each other check mate huh we talk to each other and it's like it's also you talk to each other beforehand

Priscillaright only by like text text yeah right but you but you walked up you walked into the date you had not even I promise you it wasn't about his looks it's not

Priscillaabout his what was it about his energy it's about the way someone holds themselves and their whole character and you could just tell you could just their Essence their their being their whole being but what about his his body

Brian Atlaslanguage right everything but the way you hold yourself that that factors into like your your presence I thought he was cute like I thought he was a cute guy

Priscillabut you br okay I know that when you okay can you ad can

Priscillayou but you agree can you agree that there is sort of like a chemistry thing that happens between everyone a connection right and how you feel when

Lydia (Author)you're connecting with them make it makes a difference if you were already talking to yeah if you were already talking to this guy then you knew that you had enough in common to go on a date with him which means that you knew enough about his

Lydia (Author)personality to like say yes I'm going to go out with you and then you see him from across the restaurant or whatever and you're like uh actually never mind so like what what

Priscillawas the thought process cuz you'd already spoken to him and learned his character no we texted we like it was like a back and forth like oh you know it's like cuz I am on dating apps so

Priscillait's just like that's just sort of how it is it's like hey how you doing okay blah blah blah like want to hang out want to get coffee whatever you go hang

Brian Atlasout and then you find out if you connect in person or not can I ask you which of these crystals is your favorite can I grab it no you can point

Brian Atlasto it and leave it exactly where they are I like the pink one the pink one okay which one's your favorite uh I kind of like the one there's two of

Brian Atlasthem actually but the one over there iridescent yeah I like the iridescent one that one is pretty so you would want to be put in the pink Crystal if you had to live in one of the crystals you would

Brian Atlasgo in the pink Crystal yeah okay that's cool um you go in the pink Crystal wa okay so anyways no it's just earlier you're making a big stand about how oh looks don't really matter energy that's

Priscillawhat I'm and I'm not saying in a cuckoo kind of way I'm just trying to say when but what does that mean energy like what everything that's happening right now like we're all our own characters and we're all bouncing off of each other

Lydia (Author)bouncing but if you had if you had like just walked in you weren't bouncing off of anything you just saw him and went I don't like your aura no we talked briefly like we talked and I it was like

PriscillaI met him I'm like H I don't think and then we kept on interacting and I was like yeah no I don't but my whole point around that whole thing not to be scrutinized by my own feelings but my whole point was I don't go on dinner

Priscilladates for the first date anymore because I don't want anyone to spend a lot of money we can go and get a coffee sure that's fine you um did you uh you you did go through with the dinner though yes like you didn't just dip no okay you

Brian Atlaswent through the dinner but there wasn't a second date and I tried to be as pleasant and as fun as possible that's fine but you knew walking in you just

Brian Atlasyou saw him you saw his Vibe you saw his energy did you see his Aura did he hey why are you flickering your eyes at me bra that's a real thing you don't

Priscillabelieve in Aura did you see his Aura there I'm there is an energy there is a the aura connection

Alexis (Fashion)thing do you guys feel that yeah yeah no you can definitely have a connection with someone before you even really meet them in person yeah

Lydia (Author)I mean chemistry is an incredibly real thing right like for sure the oh go ahead go ahead go my bad my bad uh no I was just going to say like literally the second night that my husband spent over when we first started dating I showed him my first dance song that I had

Lydia (Author)planned since I was like 12 that I had never shown any man before because I knew that he was going to be my husband a u that's so cute don't don't make the Crazy Eyes Brian I knew it so like you

Lydia (Author)can definitely have the chemistry right but you can't tell that across the room like you have to you have to have conversations like yes people can have a presence my husband's 6'5 he has a present right but it's not like I see

Lydia (Author)you and I'm like I like your energy wait do you have a septum I do I've had it since I was 17 does your your husband hasn't been like get get that out of there he hasn't I I had a bigger one and he doesn't like the bigger ones doesn't

Brian Atlastell you what wait question if your husband after tonight after he got some advice from from Brother Brian he's probably watching what's up what's his name Bartholomew Jordan Bartholomew I'm

Brian Atlascalling you bar do you want your wife to get rid of the septum piercings entirely cuz look sometimes in relationships men they can be a little a little hesitant to to speak how they

Brian Atlasfeel you know they you know they they don't want to [ __ ] [ __ ] up so do you want cuz I can help you I can do the assist I can do a little layup for you bro you want you want her to get rid of the septum would you be willing if he wanted it to get for you to get rid of

Lydia (Author)the septum piercing absolutely yeah if he asked me to I would have gotten rid of it I had a tongue piercing when we first started dating and he didn't like it I got rid of it got rid of it okay had other piercings that he didn't like that I got rid of um I wear my hair curly most of the time like this isn't

Lydia (Author)my natural hair I straightened it because it looks better on camera but he uh like I used to part my hair in the middle he likes it on the side I part it on the side do you have preferences for him yeah like things that he'll do for

Brian Atlasyou let me uh I want to open it up to the panel though if you were I know does anybody else here have a septum piercing no no let's say you did have a septum piercing and your boyfriend you've been ding for a year you guys are in love

Brian Atlaswhatever he's like hey babe listen um I don't really like how it looks would you be willing to uh not wear it take it out would you do it yes or no so septum

Brian Atlaspiercing yeah never get a septum no but like let's assume you want you liked it oh uh probably not so you but here's the

Savannah (Tucson)thing it's the end of the relationship if you I mean if he's going to dump me over a septum piercing then he can Dum but you're dumping him I that's fine like would go both ways if it's that serious

Alexis (Fashion)you know then it is what it is okay would you do it I would take out my piercing okay what about you yeah take out would you take it out or oh yeah I'm very submissive i' definitely take it out oh okay yeah there you go well I

Carly (Chef)wouldn't have one but I would take it out for sure yeah I definitely you do it for how long have we been together a year and you guys are in love and we're

Priscillain love Yeah a year yeah then I'll take it out but he should see that if I like it and I I and I look and I like how I feel with it and I feel confident with

Priscillait then I would think I would date a man that would let me do whatever I'm not let me but I would date a man that would be okay with me doing whatever I want expressing would you date a guy that you

Brian Atlaswould let him do whatever he wants yeah strip club you're fine with that yeah do you liking other girls IG photos are you cool with that like just answer that before you tell me what you think one is

Brian Atlasone has to do with before you tell me what you think which I'm I will happily hear out just answer the first question uh

Brian Atlasno no so you would have an issue with him liking other women's photos on Instagram yes okay so tell me what you think now go ahead how he presents himself and how he

Priscillachooses to dress and project himself to the world is way different than how he's perceived it's way different than how

Priscillahe's like presenting himself and and I agree I agree it's different it makes no like him liking another girl's photo is not that is to the relationship that has

Priscillato do with our relationship okay how about sure how about this you dressing revealing right I I actually do I do go back and forth on that one because I know that like I think that's an

Priscillainsecure thing to do for a man for him to be like no one can see your body like body supposed to be for your man right I I think I I think that he

Priscillaprobably wouldn't have a problem with it if I was with him because he would be like I'm a confident man this I mean I don't believe in I don't like to show myself but if I did like to show myself

Brian AtlasI no actually sometimes I do and when I feel like it I will you know okay and when he feels like it he's going to like another girl's Instagram photo not because he wants to [ __ ] her but because

Brian Atlashe's like oh wow her her style is really great some bu [ __ ] like that but like how far can we take this like how far can we take your logical position so you're saying well dressing and

Priscillarevealing what if he didn't want you like wearing lingerie in public wasn't that like a Jonah Hill thing or something I don't know about Jonah Hill but you can answer the question no I I get that I I feel like when I was

Brian Atlasyounger I was a lot more I know what you're I do know what you're talking about Jonah Hill he was dating a woman and she it was all over the news because she went public and like totally dragged him and they were dating for like two

Brian Atlasthree years or something and he was like Hey listen I have these boundaries I don't want you like posting these types of photos I don't want you dressing in this sort of way I'm Jonah Hill I'm like basically I think he's an A-list is he

Brian Atlasconsidered A-list or I mean he's not like Brad Pit or leard but he's like he's like mainstream actor like really a lot of stuff yeah so he's like look I have a really public facing Persona I'm

Priscillain Hollywood I'm in traditional media I don't want my girlfriend doing this but go ahead though I want to say that boundaries because people always talk about boundaries one of the big things to

Priscillaremember about boundaries is that your boundaries are not for other people they're not rules made for other people you don't say like my boundary is every time you come to my house you have to bring me a cake you know it's like

Brian Atlasactually that could be your boundary wait question what about like a rural for just as we did tonight people taking their shoes off mhm that's for your space yeah but it's for other people

Priscillait's external so like if you have a rule for your house you have to take your uh shoes off at the front door that's for other people right and then I could choose to not come if I had a problem

Priscillawith the shoe boundary or whatever and so sometimes people's boundaries Clash or whatever like if I had a boundary against taking my shoes off

Lydia (Author)sure yeah you could choose not to do it and they could also choose to not allow you into the house yeah right boundaries yeah bound boundaries are definitely for other people right like you tell uh say

Lydia (Author)you grew up with like a pretty abusive parent and you're like hey I don't appreciate the way you talk to me I'm setting a boundary if you continue talking to me that way I'm not going to speak to you anymore that's a boundary that you forcing on someone else so you say if you do this I'm going to do this

Lydia (Author)and that's and if you dress revealing I'm going to break up with you like it's it's it's a boundary like if you have male friends I'm going to break up with you like so you would be okay with

Priscillasomebody not wanting you anymore because of your piercing because I would be like yeah I'll take it out if you think that looks better but if you're going to break up with me for it then you're shallow I mean it's definitely like an

Brian Atlasextreme I I don't actually hold on I'm I'm I'm prepared to defend this what would actually be wrong if this was genuinely a man's preference that he did not want he refused outright to date

Lydia (Author)women with septum piercing what would actually be wrong with it I'm thinking you got together you had this the piercing so mine's super small what if you didn't notice it before we went out in person like it's so small and it

Priscillaalmost blends with my skin cuz it's gold and I'm brown right that to me that is that's shallow like if he if he didn't think like Brian Lord Brian what do you think if he didn't if he didn't think

Priscillalike oh I like her for her I like her character I like her her soul or whatever I like her for her what's inside then that's shallow if a little piercing is gonna like if a man like I

Priscillahad a friend who had she'd have boyfriends they'd get a haircut and she'd be like GH that's disgusting it yeah about the boyfriend's haircut right

Savannah (Tucson)like some people are more Bas I don't know they visual stuff matters to a lot of people I think that's normal but people I think you just shouldn't have the expectation to

Savannah (Tucson)change somebody when you start dating them whoever they are when you meet them you either have to like obviously some things but I think stuff like that like jobs and the way you look and stuff is

Brian Atlaskind of insane to I mean I I think as a general rule if somebody at the start of the relationship is engaged in certain

Brian Atlasbehaviors that you know ahead of time are going to present issues or be even deal breakers further along in the relationship it's ill advised to pursue a relationship with them right so like

Brian Atlasif a girl's a stripper and you don't and you you start dating her and now you're in a relationship with her and you don't want to be her to be a

Brian Atlasstripper probably don't date a stripper but also I do think they're I don't think it's necessarily

Brian Atlaswrong I don't think it's necessarily wrong for a man to perhaps either change his position on something or to uh

Brian Atlaslike for example a woman who goes out to bars and nightclubs uh I think this is a really good one that we can discuss so the man going in might think well she's going

Brian Atlasout to bars and nightclubs not necessarily because this is some fantastic hobby of hers and she really likes nightlife but because she's single and his standard could be even

Brian Atlasfrom very early on in the relationship I accept her going to bars and nightclubs because she's single and that's what single people do but now that we've been dating for a year I'm no longer okay

Brian Atlaswith you going to these venues that I think are more acclimated to people who are single and are more appropriate for people who are single in the same way like you meet somebody on a dating app

Brian Atlaswell of course they're on the dating app because they're single but once you guys establish okay do you want to be monogamous okay we should probably both not be on dating apps because this is a contravention of our monogamous

Brian Atlasrelationship ship and so my thinking on this would simply be is like when it comes to bars and nightclubs or something or perhaps even dressing revealing is the guy is making an

Brian Atlasassessment of okay this is what women do when they're single women dress revealing women go to bars women go to clubs and look I'm going to go ahead and Grant that you guys go out to bars and

Brian Atlasclubs and dress revealing for yourself and to have fun but I want you guys to be charitable charitable back to me and say that one one not all of the reason but one of the reasons you guys go is

Brian Atlasfor male attention and male validation you dress revealing to perhaps advertise yourself as available to other men I'm not saying that's the only reason but you're going to dress a certain way to perhaps make yourself more appealing to

Brian Atlasmen and you're going to go to bars and nightclubs not with the express intention of going to uh hook up or meet a guy but if a Charming attractive guy

Brian Atlascomes and talks to you at the the Bor Club maybe that's nice and a little bit extra on a cherry on top right and so I don't think it's actually necessarily

Brian Atlaseven wrong if you're now with o I think that's going to be a harder position to take going in as a guy if she's already doing o because

Brian Atlasthat's related to her money so if you're dealing you know a girl is doing o and you're going to try and date her that's a harder sale for her to be like you need to stop doing o

Brian Atlasthan like dressing revealing or going to the bar club yeah uh if you don't want to be in a relationship with a girl who does only fans don't date from the from the get-go don't date a girl who does

Brian Atlasonly fans um but I mean can I interject yeah I mean that was pretty much it so yeah go ahead I wait sorry I'm sorry I got to let this come through but then you can inter

SPEAKER_00interject Devon Jackson donated $200 it's also shallow to immediately not like a guy because of some vag interpretation of his energy we all can be a little shallow sometimes I guess so

Brian Atlasdo you want to respond to that and then just you can go in with your interjection I guess say uh no you don't respon to give him a

Priscillalittle response a paragraph or something two sentences par a sentence or two run on sentence like I think if we just Stripped Away everything and we

Brian Atlasdidn't we we were all just who we were inside I mean that's for savan and Katie to do this never mind sorry that that was bad here I what you say all right

Priscillawhat did you say you said strip away and I talking about their never mind very cover cuz they it is s it's sad it's sad it's sad that we live in such like a

Priscillavain world it's sad War bad war is also bad crime poverty children true though it's no but this is something that can

Priscillabe fixed like we can I don't think so wait what can be fixed we can all look at the person in the mirror and be like maybe I won't be so like maybe I can care about someone's the content of

Brian Atlastheir character like I can care about their good deeds and I don't when you say fixed do you mean like Global universally

Priscillafixed like everybody whole reason why this is all consumerism like the whole reason they they need us to think we're not good enough we have to constantly keep up with the trend we have to

Savannah (Tucson)constantly make our face look like this or that so that we can just feed more money into everything like that's all it is it's just so do you think like sexual attraction is not important in a

Priscillarelationship no I do and I feel like when you first meet somebody you can kind of feel if there's a sexual feeling and what contributes to the sexual

Lydia (Author)attraction is it their look trust me it's not the looks so you would like bang someone who is objectively a one

Priscillalike passate love to them sweet I'm not going to bang them huh okay all right um and then you

Priscillasaid what I was going to say about the interjection go okay the interjection is there are some women who are party girls that they are extroverted women

Priscillaand they like to go out and they like to be socialites and they like to have fun so when you meet a woman that's like that and she has all these great qualities about her and she's like this outgoing girl that might be something

Lydia (Author)that comes with that is she's going to want to go out even if she's not single you know I mean you can be outgoing and go out and not go to a club no I'm saying you could be outgoing and do it

Lydia (Author)however you want to do yeah but the argument was like would you essentially stop going to a club because you're in a relationship with someone right and you're saying well what if she's outgoing and she likes going to clubs

Priscillasure what you can like what whatever you want right the idea is not changing someone when you first meet them so he's saying when you're single this is a single person thing to to go out and but it's not just a single person thing it's

Lydia (Author)like an outgoing girl thing that girls that some girls like to do going out to bars and clubs is single people Behavior unless you're going with your significant other right cuz like my brother would go with his girlfriend and

Lydia (Author)go like line dancing at at Denim and Diamonds which is technically like a a bar/ club or whatever right and and then but my sister who's married does not go out to clubs and if she wants to be

Lydia (Author)outgoing her and like me and some of her other female friends will like rent out a karaoke room and like go do that and it's it's stuff that you do with your female friends that's not in the vein of

Savannah (Tucson)like getting men to look at you when you're in a relationship that's fun that you like to do that some people like to go out I mean yeah I like to go dance with my girlfriends has nothing to do with guys I

Lydia (Author)mean but if you're going out you're like you're attractive you're going to get attention right why don't we all just wear like little like hijab type I mean no one's going that far no one saying you need burkas right people are like my

Lydia (Author)argument at least is when you're single act single when you're taken act taken right like well how is Dan if somebody hits on me it's going to happen regardless if I go to a club or not yeah then I'm just

Brian Atlasgot a whole it's not I think the difference here is is that if you're a relationship and you're just going about your life and you go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's or whatever it is and you get hit

Brian Atlason food I don't think that that would be a reasonable boundary for a man to assert like oh you're not allowed to go out in public at all uh perhaps in like some Middle Eastern countries I guess

Brian Atlasthat's okay but um in in Western Society I don't I don't even think there's like any argument from even traditionalists or Christians or what whatever it is that your your girlfriend or wife can't

Brian Atlasgo to the grocery store store uh heaven forbid some guy approaches or whatever um I don't think that's really a position that's being made the position that's being made though is that these

Brian Atlasare very very specific venues social venues where there's like almost a near certainty certainty or anticipation that you're going to get hit on and so that

Brian Atlasbecomes a little bit different and I'll I guess I'll explain it like this so and look you can even say again I'll be charitable and say y'all go out to have fun and dance and you don't really care

Brian Atlasabout the dudes even if you're single or whatever whether that's true or not I question that because why don't you guys if you just want to dance and get drunk go to BevMo buy some alcohol that's not going to be

Brian Atlasnearly as expensive you don't got to drive somewhere you don't got to Uber downtown you don't got to wait in some [ __ ] line that's just created so the club looks popping but it's [ __ ] empty inside and then it's super it's

Brian Atlasway too loud you're your ears are ringing by the end of the night people are smoking people are drunk you got to be watching out for your own safety people trying to drop [ __ ] in your drinks there's physical violence component mostly for men when they go

Brian Atlasout to the club uh and and there's just smoke and it's loud and then you're around a bunch of other drunk people but this is your interpretation hold on hold on I'm almost done and so to me it's

Brian Atlaslike if you why don't you just go to one of your girlfriend's Place put on some music and just drink at home why do you got to do it when there's

Brian Atlasother eyes on you like why what's the component like if you just want to dance and drink why can't it be with your girlfriends at your house and you save a bunch of money on alcohol and you don't

Brian Atlasgot to deal with creepy men coming up to you and doing all that why do you have to do it at the bar and club because you want to be seen whether it's by other women or by other men but there's no

Brian Atlasother reason to go out to a bar or club other than validation and to be seen explain otherwise explain it to me what for like a birthday or something somebody like celebrating something or that's I feel like that's an exception

Lydia (Author)right like if your best friend is having her bachelorette party at a bar and you go to the bar like that's different right going for a reason not just for I want to go I'm not a big club person but every every time every time you go to

Carly (Chef)the bar club it's for a birthday like let's be real most either event or some celebration I'm not a big club person to begin with but yeah like I well maybe not you specifically but like of the

Brian Atlaswomen who participate in night life are they doing it because there's always a specific like social event like a birthday or is it just like it's a Thursday Friday night let's go get drunk

Priscillaat the bar like I don't think it's always about an event they might also have single friends that like to go out or they might be single sing Single Girlfriends are like the worst thing for

Priscillafor a a dude a dude in a relationship and she's got a bunch of single friends I just want to say like the best like the best relation or like my longest relationship he was the type of guy that

Priscillawould be like have fun like you know we'll see you later like go have fun with your friends and to me that's like a power I feel like that's a power move like I I I

Priscillaremember I did my cousin's bachelorette party and we all like um we got our makeup done we went out and I was like if anyone offers me drinks can I take the drinks and then is like yeah go

Priscillaahead cuz like yeah just was he a liberal why is that pertinent I'm just curious I don't believe so he was a

Brian AtlasLibertarian oh okay I mean look I get that it's good for you that you can date a guy who will have no but it looks good

Priscillato women when you do that like when you say like have otherwise you're like ah this guy is scared I'm going to find some like what does that say about the guy like it makes you think like I mean you could just make the opposite

Brian Atlasargument that a guy who's actually willing to have standards and boundaries and be like I'm not okay with you doing this that could indicate higher levels of confidence than the guy cuz I could

Brian Atlasjust make it like a sort of conjecture based argument like oh um well the guy who is too scared and too insecure to speak up about something that bothers

Brian Atlashim that shows insecurity that shows we weakness the guy who's confident in his is like Hey listen this Behavior I don't think it's commensurate with like me wanting a monogamous long-term relationship and I want to continue

Priscilladating you but you're putting the relationship at risk I also want to say it's a strange thing with dating because there's always going to be in every relationship a power Dynamic like and

Priscillait's going to be there are going to be a lot of factors that play into that like if the the money the um just everything

Priscillalike there's so if the guy is saying I need you to not do that then I I want to know what he's doing for me like what like you're just going to

Alexis (Fashion)you're going to tell me what to do so what are you so how do you have that power over me because men are leaders because I look at it like communication women are leaders too if he doesn't like

Priscillait and you really love him right exactly no no no I see that I see that and and also like I feel like it's almost the equivalent of like a guy of a woman

Priscillagetting mad because a guy liked a photo or whatever I feel like I'm not going to I'm probably not going to bring that up but if it did bother me earlier didn't you say that it would bother you right

PriscillaI'm but I'm probably not going to bring it up because of security no no no I'm probably not going to bring it up because it makes you look in insecure it does so you'll just like start an argument over some other [ __ ] like 2

Priscilladays later and you're just resentful and yeah you har those emotions like no if it if it meant a lot to me I would let him know and then if I meant a lot to him he would probably do something

Priscillaabout it and then vice versa if I was a party girl and a guy didn't want me to and he was like Hey like this is sort of affecting us like can you chill out a little bit look if you want to be a party girl then go do it and look my

Brian Atlasadvice I have to give the advice to the male component here if you don't want to date a girl who go who does that try to find a girl who's not going to these bars and nightclubs but I I also get the

Brian Atlaslike the nuanced component here of like there's guys who maybe every occasionally will go out to a bar at nightclub they'll see a girl who they fancy who they think is attractive and

Brian Atlashe'll go up to her and he might not be privy to like oh this maybe she's like me like she I just went out once once a month friend's birthday whatever it is he's not privy to the fact that she's a

Brian Atlasparty girl but maybe that was a that's an error on his part for not properly vetting and like hey how often do you go out to bars and clubs oh that's going to be a problem in

Brian Atlasthe relationship never mind have a nice night but I don't know it's just interesting to me that look oh [ __ ] I lost my tra oh I lost my tra of thought it was going to

Alexis (Fashion)be a good one it was going to be something good I mean but that's how cheating starts it's like if you can't communicate properly no right I was going to say communication is important he's going to go he or she is going to go find someone who doesn't do those

Lydia (Author)things right that's number one at the end of the day it comes down to respect right like do you or do you not respect your partner because well if if you're if you respect your partner and your partner asks you not to do something

Lydia (Author)you're not going to do it right no because even a month into my relationship with my husband I was friends with this guy that I'd like fooled around with in the past and he said hey it makes me uncomfortable that you're talking to that guy I'd prefer if

Lydia (Author)you didn't and I said okay cool and then I never spoke to that guy again like what if you were best friends with that man I think that if you have seen another party naked you should not be

Alexis (Fashion)friends with them if you're in a relationship period that's that's Plan B right there yeah yeah best friend is I'm keeping you on the back burner if this doesn't work out yeah exactly see actually you know what women know in the

Alexis (Fashion)back of their mind and that's but it's it is true it is true whether it's intentional or not it's subconscious subconscious it's it's a thing like I would I will always like be considerate

Alexis (Fashion)in stuff like that like I treat people how I want to be treated I would not want my man to yeah like I like would you be okay with your man going out no

Lydia (Author)boxers gray sweatpants and like slanging it around at at the at the grocery store or whatever like and you or he goes to the club in his gray sweatpants and all

Alexis (Fashion)the women are out I would I would be like yep I just wouldn't put myself in a position to like you know I wouldn't put myself in a position to like like for a

Alexis (Fashion)man to approach me yeah like when I'm with somebody or even interested in somebody and I'm like Tunnel Vision on that person I'm going to put myself in the position where men don't really feel comfortable approaching me yeah

Lydia (Author)especially cuz like statistically it's proven that if you are wearing a wedding ring you're more likely to be approached in public because it's you've already been vetted you're good someone already married you let me swoop on is that for

Lydia (Author)men or for women for for women for women for women women get approached more no women approach more man has has the R I actually heard

Brian Atlassomething funny on that uh a woman would rather what is it uh a what is that thing about the

Brian Atlashouse oh a a okay a woman would rather be with a man wait how does it go a woman would rather date oh okay

Brian Atlashere it is a woman would rather date a man who lives with his wife than a man who lives with his parents that's what something like that that's hilarious

Alexis (Fashion)that's I don't know Tak men are not attractive to me taken men are not attractive to me I have a really like spicy question not spicy controversial I

Priscillaknow everyone's going to have different opinions okay what is it but I might stick on this topic but what is it do you think it's wrong like cuz I'm like if you're married if you're engaged

Priscillaabsolutely not no way I'm not going to I do not but if you if I like like someone and they're just dating someone and I don't know the girl no that's wrong you're still a homer you're still a home

Alexis (Fashion)at end of the day there's way too many people in this world to go after someone that's trying to pursue someone else that to me for me personally I would

Alexis (Fashion)never pursue a guy that I I am aware that he is Rel pursuing someone else I'm not that competitive I had a friend who was in a boyfriend girlfriend relationship for 10 years right so do

Priscillayou think you're they're still not engaged yeah let me go get some of that okay I guess I should re like if they're newly dating like a couple weeks in leave them alone leave them alone I

Brian Atlasalways think no no I'm not going to pursue it but I'm like I yeah what if you do I'm going to bring it back to the previous topic so um question would you if you were dating a guy and he started

Priscillato want to wear dresses would you be okay with that no I don't like the painted nails I don't like the short shorts call jords no but what if he was like

Priscillayeah I want to start wearing what if I was like I want to shave my hair and get like that's a good question actually you know like so like the girl's dating the guy and the girl's like hey I want to

Brian Atlasshave my head right that's actually a really that's a really good I've heard I think we've talked about this on that literally happened in my relationship no but I think I think a lot of guys dress you could just take it right off but I

Brian Atlasthink so I think a lot of guys with eventually the the girlfriend so here's the scenario been dating for a year and the girlfriend has previously had long like normal girl hair whatever but then

Brian Atlasshe's like hey babe I want to shave my head off like shave my hair off complet like buzzcut shorter than mine buzzcut um mad Mech style I think the guy uh

Brian Atlaswould totally it'd be totally acceptable for him to say no I'm not cool with that um and he and I think a lot of men would

Priscillaprobably lose some attraction for the girl I knew a girl that got married and had kids with someone and then he transitioned to a woman that does happen know that happens

Brian Atlasand they're still together but going around the table on the like the buzz cut thing uh do you think it would be okay if uh the girl the girlfriend she buzzes the she just goes ahead buzzes

Brian Atlasthe hair off she was dating a guy and he's like not no longer attracted to her do you think it's okay if he breaks up with her yeah I feel like that if it affects the sexual attraction that's

Priscillaright is it okay fair fair yeah I did that okay fair fair yeah but it says a lot more about you than it it says a lot more about the man than it does about the person shape like imagine like there

Brian Atlasare women that get cancer they have to shave off their hair that's different different that's not choice always the extreme example to but that's that's not by choice thinking totally different I'm

Brian Atlasthinking the majority of men would stand by their girl if like what is it alope or whatever but you wouldn't be attracted I

Priscillamean actually I met men that have broken up with people for those reasons like I mean there are people out there that like so it's not all about it's not all about looks and attraction like you actually have to love the person and

Brian Atlascare about the person I mean I would agree with you even in under the circumstance where she does have cancer would the guy potentially be less attracted to her yes but I think the

Brian Atlaslike underlying established relationship um he would he would stay with her despite this but when it's just like a completely voluntary let me just buzz off my hair and I'm not going to listen

Brian Atlasto what you say because this is a completely voluntary act and I could keep my hair long but I'm choosing to reject your preference on this matter and I'm just going to go ahead and Buzz

Brian Atlasit off I think that that's a different it's just a different situation yeah for sure especially if a person has cancer that's totally yeah yeah think I think most men are going to be much more

SPEAKER_00understanding under those circumstances versus just I just want to do it we have grao grao graffo tact donated

SPEAKER_00$200 CH six it's about priorities do you prioritize finding a long-term committed partner or partying sounds like you

SPEAKER_00choose the latter also Brian is your parody called Baby FL need baby got flaps I need to Baby Got flaps is insane

Brian AtlasI need to get on that grao I'm not saying that I'm a party person thank you graffo man yo cat thank you for the big you know what I'll do I'll do another

Brian AtlasWAP yes no you have to make up the W I need some I need yo cat thank you for the big gifted 50 guys can we get some W's in the chat for cat here thank you Cat and then

Brian Atlasearlier Marcus uh you sent these in earlier Marcus thank you for the 20 memberships man really appreciate it guys also reminder Reed is 100 TTS is 200 uh that was from grao here we have a chat here from

FelicityMichael that came in about 30 minutes ago uh Felicity do us the do us the honors take a girl out to the pool or the water park on the first date got to see them without makeup before you

Felicitycommit alternatively take them to an escape room to see how you deal with conflict together I like that I like that lot yeah well on the first part gentlemen let me put you on some

Brian Atlasgame so girls they uh when it comes to the makeup thing they've caught on to the girls are girls are clever they're smart now they're clowning on y'all who are saying oh take her to the beach take

Brian Atlasher to swim cuz there there's makeup that can like it sticks like you can wipe you can wipe and they'll still stay on right so it doesn't work like you could take

Lydia (Author)her to the pool or the beach or whatever you take me the makeup is staying on there's like isn't there [ __ ] you can put on where like there's setting powder setting spray it'll stay yeah there's

Brian Atlasstuff out there that bu but um but the set the escape room that's a that's kind of a fun first the escape room was really fun see how she also what do you guys think about this kind of related to

Brian AtlasMichael Jones thing have you guys ever dated somebody but then you traveled together and you're like I don't know you know like they're

Brian Atlaslittle yeah like if if they the AAG for sure like they're good but then you travel with them and the stress of travel like you see a different side of

Lydia (Author)them have you ever a kid too yeah not travel but the biggest fight my husband and I have ever had was over building a bed frame because the instructions were awful and we were fighting oh both are

Brian Atlasover yeah I can't do any sort of like construction yeah Ikea furniture What Monopoly you play mon she's [ __ ] throwing the [ __ ] Monopoly board like what the [ __ ] taking

Brian Atlasall your money that's crazy uh okay we're going to oh we got the gender swap let's do the gender swap but before we do that Katie you also said you like to argue in missionary position yeah what

Katie Robertsonis that about um it's pickup line on hinge with the like a pickup line yeah so it's kind of like a hint that I want to do the you know what

Katie Robertsonwithout saying it on like cuz you can't say that on hinge cuz you'll get banned so like I'll be like put that as a phrase and the men are like let's argue a missionary basically like can we do

Carly (Chef)the okay okay oh I thought you actually you actually argue aru I know that's what I tell me your politics me more I had a wait I don't

Brian Atlasknow if I want to share that anecdote talking SE like no I I remember one girl I was dating for a long time and she

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