Rage Quitter Gets KICKED OUT?! She Dated A ****?! Andrew Wilson! Trad ØF Girl?! | Dating Talk #146

Date: 2024-03-25

Duration: 5h 21m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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SShadow (Jessica) (DT146)>

AAnastasia (DT146)>

TTerry (DT146)>

PPriya (DT146)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_03Leslie(guest)

SPEAKER_04Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Shadow (Jessica)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Anastasia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_13Terry(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces panel. Seven guests + Andrew Wilson. Two no-shows including "bucket hat girl." Andrew Wilson honored as "Quad Kumu Defensor Latini" for defeating a Whatever hater.

“"we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

QuoteAndrew Wilson accepts Brian's honorary title "Quad Kumu Defensor Latini" (Defender of Whatever). Speech: "I'm so overwhelmed by the knighting of the king Whatever... it's going on my Twitter bio immediately."

“"I'm so overwhelmed by the nighting of the king whatever that I'm literally speechless"”

Key MomentAnastasia reveals she dated a self-described National Socialist while in the Army. He revealed beliefs at a bookstore, showed her 12+ hours of Nazi documentary content. She got pregnant; he offered no child support; she removed him from daughter's life. This is the "She Dated A ****" title reference.

“"he was kind of you know a Nazi"”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson reviews Bri's Instagram live on stream after she claimed to be traditional. Reviews explicit content (cheek-spreading, yoga-position photos, lingerie videos). Verdict: "one of the worst cases I've seen on whatever of a woman saying I'm traditional." Bri retracts her "traditional" label. This is the "Trad OF Girl" title reference.

“"that would be considered traditional prostitution not traditionalism"”

QuoteAndrew Wilson delivers verdict on Bri's traditional claim after Instagram review: "that would be considered traditional prostitution... it's pretty over the top... one of the worst cases I've seen on whatever to date."

“"that would be considered traditional prostitution not um not traditionalism"”

ControversyLeslie rage-quits the show at ~184min after Andrew Wilson implies she will be "a 304 for the rest of her life." She found earlier TTS donation calling her a 304 disrespectful. Storms off; returns ~5 minutes later.

“"I'm done you're you're rage quitting yeah I am actually"”

QuoteShadow shares that her husband had HPV throat cancer attributed to his promiscuous past in San Diego. "He went through chemo... he is now cancer free... I'm really proud of him."

“"he he was getting down in the day cuz he's older than me his body count like what"”

QuoteAndrew Wilson on modern US dating: "I wouldn't date [a US woman]... it just sounds like a nightmare. I would just check out completely and grab a passport and passport bro for the rest of my life."

“"I would just check out completely and grab a passport and passport bro for the rest of my life"”

ControversyLeslie is kicked out of the show by chat vote near the end (~295min). Gustavo (crew) enforces: "out you go." Brian says goodbye. Andrew Wilson: "304 down." Shadow had predicted she would rage-quit.

“"out you go a goodbye Leslie"”

OtherEnd of show (~321min). Brian raids Aladar on Twitch (WoW Classic, 67 viewers). YouTube redirected to Andrew Wilson's The Crucible channel. "Good night guys, see you on Tuesday."

“"07s in the chat good night guys we'll see you on Tuesday"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Seven guests + Andrew Wilson introduce themselves: Leslie (21, Angel's Camp CA, server/OF, situationship), Shadow/Jessica (Ohio, model/Amazon, married 12yr), Bri (29, FL, OnlyFans, ex-alcoholic, single 2yr), Anastasia (21, Oregon, student/ex-Army, single mom, single 2yr), Terry (23, SoCal, customer service, 12yr relationship, 1 child), Priya (23, Sacramento, pre-law/ASU, trains horses, single few months), Andrew Wilson (40, The Crucible host, married). Two no-shows noted: both returning guests, one is "bucket hat girl" (Christian virgin/liberal). Andrew Wilson honored with title "Quad Kumu Defensor Latini" (Defender of Whatever).

Leslie's situationship / relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status. Leslie (SPEAKER_03): exclusive but no label, back together 2 weeks (prev. episode she was single). Previously didn't want exclusivity; he did; she is "coming around." Shadow: married 1yr / together 12yr. Anastasia: single 2 years. Terry: 12yr relationship, getting engaged, 1 child. Priya: single few months (she broke up with last boyfriend; mutual). Andrew Wilson: married 10+ years.

Shadow: spiritualism, counter spell protection, blood witch episode

Shadow (SPEAKER_09) describes spiritual practice: Hindu-Buddhist framework, tarot (free/permission-only), chakra cleansing, counter-spell protection via prayer/meditation/mantras. Claims she counter-protected guests during the "blood witch" episode. Identified two other guests on that prior episode as also practicing witchcraft (by observing their whispered exchanges and vial-passing). Advisory to viewers: do not give strangers birth date, blood, or birth time.

Anastasia: dated a Nazi, got pregnant

Anastasia (SPEAKER_11) describes 4-month Army relationship: man identified as National Socialist. Revealed beliefs at bookstore (wished Nazis had won WWII); showed her 12 online documentaries. She got pregnant during the relationship. He offered exemption from child support; she accepted to remove him from daughter's life. Andrew Wilson interrogated details of the relationship timeline and her decision-making. Anastasia is Christian and had waited for marriage; this was a low point.

Bri OnlyFans "trad OF girl" Instagram review

Brian pulls up Bri's Instagram live on stream. Bri had described herself as traditional. Instagram shows content inconsistent with traditional values. Andrew Wilson verdict: "one of the worst cases I've seen on whatever of a woman saying I'm traditional... that would be considered traditional prostitution." Bri retracts: "I'm not super traditional at all." Context: Christian upbringing, grandfather is a preacher who knows about OnlyFans but doesn't discuss it. Bri: started OnlyFans at ~22 via premium Snapchat; ~7 years in; ~15 million social media followers. Ex-alcoholic from Kentucky/Arkansas; moved to Florida.

Leslie rage-quits mid-show

After Andrew Wilson calls Leslie's future "a 304 for the rest of your life" (indirectly), Leslie rage-quits the show at ~184min. Andrew: "you're rage-quitting" / "have an adult conversation." Leslie leaves but returns ~5 minutes later. Context: TTS donation earlier had called her a 304; she took offense; ongoing tension with Andrew Wilson throughout the show.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Viewer (Stiffler) requests ratings round. Leslie: initially passes; later says 6 or 7. Shadow: ~6 (donor TTS rated her 6 "goth mommy"). Bri: 5. Anastasia: 5 (donor TTS "Army failure 3" / "Arkansas Earth trash 3"). Terry: not clearly captured (donor TTS rated her 7). Priya: 6.5 ("Wakanda 7" from donor). Andrew Wilson: 4.2 (growing Orthodox beard covers more face). Donor TTS (Bron) ratings: "pre8 goth mommy 6, Kiki 10, Army failure 3, Arkansas Earth trash 3, Wakanda 7, Leslie insufferable turd." Brian did not give explicit ratings.

First date expectations round

Anastasia asks the panel about first date expectations. Leslie: man should not try to sleep with her on first date; believes making men wait builds respect. Shadow: 50/50 on check; wants connection; can cook at home. Bri: wants man not to try to sleep with her; dating history "awful." Anastasia: man should pay and be respectful; hands to self. Terry: first date was city fair at 12; established friendship. Priya: same page on values and life goals; not place-dependent. Andrew Wilson: would never date a US woman again; "passport bro for rest of my life."

Body count and spiritual/physical bonding discussion

Shadow (SPEAKER_09) leads discussion on body count from spiritual angle: bonding to each partner, HPV throat cancer (husband's; from promiscuity in San Diego; now cancer-free after chemo). Andrew Wilson: HPV throat cancer rare in men; usually from receptive oral sex with men (Michael Douglas reference). Brian: emerging research on colorectal cancer linked to receiving anal sex. Shadow: body count matters because you carry spiritual ties to each person. Going around table: do men care about body count? Terry: men should have higher standards.

Men are insecure if they care about body count debate

Brian asks: "Do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?" Leslie (SPEAKER_03): no. Shadow: objects to how women rate themselves (no objectivity). Bri: would lie about body count. Terry: men need higher standards. Andrew Wilson: hypocrisy argument — if a man has high count, he can't judge.

Leslie kicked out by chat vote

Near end of show (~295min), Brian and Gustavo (SPEAKER_06) put to chat whether to kick Leslie out. Chat votes to kick. Gustavo enforces: "out you go." Brian: "Goodbye Leslie." Shadow: "I read that someone was going to rage quit — I was waiting for it." Andrew Wilson: "304 down, you've got to get the Medics over there." Brian debrief: "she was super rude the entire time; I was just trolling her at the end." Chat comment: "she deserved it for pouting like a child the whole show."

Transcript

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Brian Atlasnecessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast um without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where you're from in

Leslieoccupation go ahead my name is lesie I'm from Angel's camp California and I'm 21 years old and I'm a server I do only fans on the side as well all right

Shadow (Jessica)welcome hi I'm known as Shadow but my government name is Jessica I am from Ohio and I am a um commercial model as

Shadow (Jessica)well as a leader in Amazon um Corporation so where did you get the moniker shadow shadow was made up by my

Shadow (Jessica)agency oh um so yeah you didn't care to say they just I sort of did but I I'm not very picky about it I'm not someone that's like really paying attention to

Shadow (Jessica)that part what's the process for getting the nickname like um really they just try to find something that will stick more for you for Runway so that way you're chosen more so it actually did help help me get noticed more cuz my

Brian Atlasname Jessica I'm just kind of like you know you're just Jessica now you're Shadow there how do you spell shadow h a d o e okay so it's like a like a shadow like a dough like a you know like a deer

Andrew Wilsonokay I see age I am 35 years old 35 all right welcome what is a uh leader uh what is a leader at Amazon I am a um process

Shadow (Jessica)assistant so I run the shift when we're um doing the Sorting for after they're done with the Fulfillment part gotta

Brithank you um I'm Bri am I doing this um I'm 29 from Florida and I do only fans could I have you scoot your mic over that way tilt it down too down perfect

Anastasiasorry yeah you're you're fine what about you I'm Anastasia I'm 21 I am from Oregon and I'm a student uh I'm studying English okay and you're

Brian Atlaspreviously in the military correct yes what branch of the military uh the Army enlisted or officer enlisted

Terryokay okay all right I thank you guys for having me on my name is Terry I am from Southern California I am a mother um I work in customer

Brian Atlasservice age and I'm 23 23 all right welcome hello my name is Pria I'm 23 years old I am you okay Brian that [ __ ] computer came out of nowhere

Priyaholy [ __ ] just jumped out at you God damn I'm from Sacramento California I am a full-time student at ASU online uh pre-law and studying political science and I co-run a family business as well

Brian Atlasas train horses all right welcome did you say age yes yes sorry the computer [ __ ] came out all right cool so and then we

Andrew Wilsonhave Andrew Wilson and my name is Andrew Wilson host of The One and Only Crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet I

Brian Atlasam uh 40 years old happily married was it recently your birthday it was recently my birthday yeah oh okay happy birthday happy birday I thought

Brian Atlasyou used to say 39 yep okay when oh well uh so guys I don't know if you know but Andrew Wilson he returns Victorious to

Brian Atlasthe whatever podcast he has vanquished a foe of the whatever podcast Andrew for this heroic deed I wish to best hold on

Brian Atlaslet me hold on let me do a little pomp in circumstance here lower the volume a little bit for this heroic deed I wish to honor Andrew

Brian Atlaswith a new title quad kumu Defensor ladin for defender of whatever so feel free to add that to your resume Andrew you can add it to your Instagram bio um

Brian AtlasI don't know if I pronounced the incorrectly quad quad Kum Defensor would you like to say a speech give a speech

Andrew WilsonAndrew um I'm so overwhelmed by the nighting of the king whatever that uh I'm I'm I'm literally speechless it's

Andrew Wilsongoing on my uh Twitter bio immediately um I'm I'm just my overwhelmed with emotion right now yeah

Brian Atlasthere you go all right there you go great um so okay going around the table actually wait before we do that H so we had two no shows today guys I apologize

Priyathat we were a little late somebody in my chat Bri said that sounds like a porn name that would be that could be a good one it could be a good one in case you

Brian Atlaswant to career change if you change up Andrew I mean you never know um but uh what was that oh yeah so we did have uh two no shows today very sadly uh I'm

Brian Atlasdebating whether there's a little backstory one of them was previously on the show and she just no-showed or actually both of them were previously on the show and they both

Brian Atlasno-showed um one of them was quite the character on the previous appearance it would have been great to actually have Andrew speak with her because she's I'll

Brian Atlasgive you a quick rundown those of you might remember bucket hat girl maybe it's like 6 months ago she's a

Brian AtlasChristian virgin but super liberal Progressive waiting until marriage but she she you know no sh um I

Brian Atlasthink she got winned that Andrew was going to be here and she cowered maybe who knows anyways um I'll get into that a little bit later on in the show we'll go into the the no show

Brian Atlasand then also she did have pre-show notes that are really interesting that relate to her somewhat contradictory you know Christian position but also very

Brian AtlasProgressive liberal position so I'll have Andrew give his take on her notes there uh so going around the table what is everybody's current relationship

Lesliestatus so are you single married polycule sex cult I might say it's pretty complicated right now situationship type complicated yeah

Brian Atlassituationship yeah how long's that been going on I don't know a minute cuz you were on the show what a month and a half ago yeah it's been it's like the same one yeah oh so you were in that when you

Brian Atlaswere on the previous show yeah okay so it's been how long have you been complicated a few months what three months no probably like I don't know it's been we've known

Leslieeach other for a while but we've just started like getting exclusive non exclusive for I have no idea what you're talking about what like I said it's complicated how's how is it complicated

Leslieexplain to me how it's complicated exclusive but not wait scoot your mic this way if you can so isn't that completely contradictory no I don't know we're like exclusive but we don't like

BriThere's No Label of exclusive so how are you exclusive not sleeping other people maybe yeah oh okay so that is yeah kind

Leslieof confusing a little confusing okay okay so you're exclusive but nonexclusive not like with the label of like oh you're

Leslietaken but like I'm not actively sleeping with others it's he no I don't think somebody shaking the table that's probably me yeah just sorry I think it was also me relax a little bit guys so

Lesliedo either of youting no okay so you're exclusive yeah but not exclusive I don't know I'm the type of person that like m I don't want to put a label on I don't care if it's

Leslieexclusive I don't care if it's together so he's seeing other girls but you're loyal no I don't think he's seeing other girls you don't think no I'm like 99% sure yeah the men are questionable for

Lesliereal but I'm like pretty sure like 100 99.9% not 100 but okay longest relationship 5 years five years wait

Brian Atlashold on just a sec last show you said you were in this thing last show your situation right I said we had like stopped talking we're talking again oh you're back on so you you were single

Lesliemhm on your last show yeah but you were I told you we were like fighting because I didn't want to be exclusive oh you didn't want to be exclusive yeah but now

Brian Atlaswe're like working it out how long have you been back back together I don't know a couple weeks is your face okay what are you doing to

Leslieyour face relax why are you judging me I just I don't know um um a couple weeks okay so you didn't want to be exclusive but

Brian Atlashe did so is this you kind of coming around yeah I think so but you're still on the fence no so you're exclusive I'm coming

Lesliearound we're working on it there's still some problems there's still some problems that have to be worked on Brian well you guys are either exclusive or we are I already said that we are exclusive but we're not like you just haven't put a label on yes got it I don't really

Shadow (Jessica)understand what's hard to like understand about that I don't know how to be exclusive though without putting a label on it like what there's got to be like a definition they are dating they just do not call each other boyfriend

Brian Atlasand girlfriend basically is gathering so okay you had a little love interest in Jake though on he was here on the last

Lesliepodcast I was going to say where's Jake yeah you asked me is Jake coming yeah where's Jake what's your rattlesnake J rattlesnake that's honestly just a joke

LeslieI was just trolling him okay all right he's a cutie though for real I love his accent sure what about you I am married okay happily all right congratulations

Shadow (Jessica)how long have you been married I've been married now it's been one year um we've been together for 12 years 12 years has it been together the whole time or have

Shadow (Jessica)there been breaks um we had a break in like 2020 it was like literally 9 months and that was about it we still lived together though we just were at that point where it was just not getting

Shadow (Jessica)along like there was just um Power struggles and I had to step down as a female and learn my place to let him be

Shadow (Jessica)the man okay because I'm very dominant because my work I'm a leader so I'm always very in my

Brian Atlasmasculine um and I learned cuz I was like you know what I love this man I had to let this man be a man so that's great okay and you said there was a 9mon

Brian Atlasseparation were you guys dating other people or okay but you were living together yes so in the same household

Shadow (Jessica)yes and so would you both bring people see my situation I didn't sleep with the

Shadow (Jessica)person that I dated okay um I did do other things but I didn't have full-on sex with him I don't know what my husband did that's on him so you know

Brian Atlasokay and um oh I if I I have some notes Here you were watching when we had the blood

Brian Atlaswitch the blood witch yes and you are involved in hold on let me pull the up the notes Here you

Shadow (Jessica)scared uh you a title you go by cuz you say that you you're not an average tarot reader yeah I'm someone that actually follows like a religion with it because

Shadow (Jessica)I Hindu Buddhist because they both believe in the same afterlife type of transition and hindes read tarot I don't do the weird witch thing I don't think that's something that people should be

Shadow (Jessica)experimenting with or doing because it's not something that will give them good karma because I'm someone that gets that believes in Karma and every everything has a law even spiritual law so so

Shadow (Jessica)you're not a you're not a witch no like not I don't practice that are you a mage no wizard no do you have any title you go no cuz like you you messaged me when you saw her I am a spiritualist and I do

Shadow (Jessica)pray against people that do that stuff and I clean chakras for my home and family chakra cleaning yeah yeah but other than that I do not practice I transmute energy yeah I guess that would

Brian Atlasbe practicing cuz you you said when you you were watching the episode counter witching counter counter witched counter um not witch oh sorry counter

Shadow (Jessica)spell protection yes protection it's more of praying and meditating and mantras I have to do yes you reversed her you can always send things back spiritually you can send things back

Shadow (Jessica)that are sent to you that are negative but you should not be doing anything against people's will like her taking people's blood and not disclosing what she was doing with their blood yeah that

Shadow (Jessica)is a big red flag that's C that was that is insane wait were you on that I was I was like I got to get this closer

Shadow (Jessica)to Paladin Shaman Paladin you umad I would say Shaman more more of Shaman yeah because I um when I do read cuz I don't charge for readings I read for

Shadow (Jessica)people that are exclusively who I feel and who give me permission because you must have permission to read for people sure and so do you know what like you said during the show she was casting a few spells on yeah and the girl next to

Shadow (Jessica)her and the girl and the girl next to the dog cat girl the dog girl yes they were you'll be un you would not believe who practices this weird stuff and the other girl that was on the other side of her how did you know I could tell by

Shadow (Jessica)what they were doing what they were whispering to each other when they would they were passing the vials around to each other yes like what the [ __ ] they were doing this kind of stuff the whole

Brian Atlastime's stuff that goes on on that side of the table I believe it um and so like do you know the type of spell they were trying to cast I don't know because you have to really know

Shadow (Jessica)what they're doing but I could tell it wasn't it wasn't genuine because they wouldn't say what they were doing see if they would tell you what they were doing it would be more genuine they being sus but they were being very sus got all the

Shadow (Jessica)girls blood around the table one thing young ladies as well do not give people your birth date your birth time or your blood or anything like that m don't give any of that I'm definitely not going to be giving anybody my blood other than

Brian Atlasmaybe medical professionals is blood donation like for it's a like an offering no but like if it's for the Red Cross or something is that oh that's fine you know that's

Shadow (Jessica)different bro oh I I don't know some nurses be I don't I was going to say unless someone's like they can't take that blood out with them okay like you know they can't be just like

Brian Atlasbye and so you did counter spells spell protection yeah that's probably why she was a little frazzled you frazzled her yes I

Shadow (Jessica)you know what that night could have gone a lot worse I feel like I mean it was I actually do think we we were under somebody's we got a lot of witches that come on your podcast a I believe it yes do we have

Brian Atlasany do you think we have any at T not today today's a chill no they on which day okay cool um you you also said that you're a creepy horoscope

Shadow (Jessica)yo I do the horoscope more on like the points in our NASA system as far as like where the stars are and I like astrology stuff yeah like actual astrology not like a horoscope in your like little

Shadow (Jessica)book section at the end of the paper no should should we go around and get everybody's no it's not really important Taurus because you don't act necessarily

Brian Atlasout of your sun sign Pisces yeah well you also said that you're um a you're a nonb you're non-b as a model as wait as

Shadow (Jessica)a model as a model as in I've modeled like men's suits and things like that I am strictly straightly but my non-binary my um agency advertises that for other like

Brian Atlasthings like Men's Fashion Week I get to do um other things like that so not anything as far as lgbtq oh but so okay you you yourself don't consider yourself non-binary but

Brian Atlasyou would for modeling purposes I would wear a suit and heartbeat some man's heck yeah men you'll wear men's clothing for okay all right I didn't I didn't get that part okay got it thank you for

Brian Atlasclarifying of course uh your relationship status please I'm single single how long have you been single for um for like a year and a half one all

Anastasiaright and longest relationship um three and a half years 3.5 years okay what about you uh I'm single um I've been

Brian Atlassingle for about 2 years and my longest relationship was about 4 months wait so sorry you your longest relationship was two years uh sorry four months and you've been single for two

Brian Atlastwo years okay four months single for two years I'm going to come back to you in just a sec I'm just going to get everybody's relationship status what

Terryabout you oh sorry Gustavo my bad hola oh yeah thank you w i I've been in a relationship this June it'll be 12

Terryyears we are Middle School sweethearts oh okay you marri we are uh going to soon engaged not uh formally sure but you've been dating for 12 years and you

Terrysaid you had one kid correct have you dated like any other people at all I mean in middle school before then um it was like oh will you go out with me you know kids do that I mean like sure I'm

Terrysure he did too but no not not exclusively not seriously we've been each other's only Partners okay all right cool prio what about you I am single have been single

Priyafor a few months now my longest relationship is about six months is that the most recent one yes oh wow uh what cuz I think last time you were on were

Priyayou still in the relationship or I was yes so what what happened there um he's a great guy we just have some differences that was it the horse stuff no it was not the horse stuff you're a horse girl I am a horse girl

Priya[Music] [Laughter] yeah I know you'd be hating on the horses but what kind of horse stuff what do you mean like like you just ride like it's

Leslielike a red flag oh if she's a horse girl no offense Priya you think horse girls are red flags yeah me too it's okay you too you think it's a red flag

Priyaokay Brian do you have a followup question uh who broke up with who uh did I ask that it was a mutual understanding Mutual did you dump him just be honest you

Brian Atlasdumped him she's laughing you dumped him okay yes I did oh why did you just say you should just try be person it's not it's just not mean of you to break up

Priyawith somebody unless it was because of yeah the horse stuff no he would love it for to have been where did the helmets go wait we need to

Priyagive her a helmet too hold on didn't she have one no oh I had one on it hurt my head try try this one all right do I have to keep it on the whole time yeah the whole show guys what do you think okay do you

Brian Atlasthink do you think this is an upgrade for her the Tilt it back a little bit back do do you guys like the do you like think the helmet's a good look I feel safer you feel safer put this thing on

Brian Atlasyeah the roof might fall probably a good thing wear this to a construction site actually I saw you I'm just like yeah uh

Andrew WilsonAndrew what about you your relationship status uh I'm married and I've been married for uh well over a decade Okay

Brian Atlascool so we've got everybody's relationship status here uh let's see one sec guys oh okay so going back to

Brian Atlasyour uh relationship status you said you've been single for two years yeah uh are you still in the military no so wait did you say the Army yeah you're in the you were in the Army okay

Brian Atlasuh what rank did you make it to just K uh E2 E2 okay wait that that's likeor honorable discharge okay yeah uh okay

Brian Atlasand so were you dating it all while you were in the military yeah is that how you met the you said your longest relationship was four months yeah is that how you met the guy was he also in

Brian Atlasthe military yeah yeah okay sorry no she's good she's good um okay and you have

Brian Atlasone kid is that correct yeah okay who was the four months guy um was that the guy you told us about in the pre-show notes yeah okay why don't you

Anastasiagive us tell us the story there oh well just uh put it bluntly he was kind of you know a Nazi

Anastasiaso I know it's who you want in the military but um he didn't really outright say that he was a Nazi he said like he was a like a socialist or

Brian Atlaswhatever National okay that's a red flag yeah small one yeah so so um okay you hold on I'm

Brian Atlasseeing my notes here um but there there's there's quite a bit to the story um let's try to go in so okay um you said that he but he didn't call himself

Brian Atlasthat because of the negative connotations yeah but he would consider him self a national socialist yeah so a Nazi I guess okay all right um now

Brian Atlashere's where it gets kind of like really interesting so um are are you religious at all yeah Christian or Christian yeah Christian okay and so you were seeing this guy um you met you were in the Army

Brian Atlasyou met this guy you started dating everything was normal these are your notes here until you were you went to a book shop and while you were looking at World War II books he made a little

Brian Atlascomment about how he wishes uh the the Nazis won yeah and you thought you thought he was

Brian Atlasjoking but the more you pressed him the more you realized he wasn't correct yeah okay lovely and he you said he was adamant he wasn't a Nazi but that he was

Brian Atlasa national yeah we went over that National Socialist he you you were obviously shocked but he said he didn't hate anyone he just had more tradition values and he wanted to he wanted you to

Anastasiagive him a chance yeah okay so what did he do uh like how did he explain it to you he wanted there's like this series

Anastasiaonline which just basically talks about why Nazis weren't bad and you know why Hitler you know was good and they make stuff for everybody okay well so guys

Brian Atlasjust just for the the viewers watching She's quoting what her boyfriend show her online was saying this isn't what you believe okay just want to get that

Brian Atlasout there before the sensors come in and uh shut the podcast down okay um and

Brian Atlasso uh so he showed you some movies M uh you watched you watched a few some of them yeah you said it took months to get

Anastasiathrough he had a library there was 12 Movies 12 Movies you you don't have to tell us which but huh they're like two hour long like like James documentaries

Brian Atlasor yeah documentaries okay it became obvious to you that he was insane insane okay so you broke

Brian Atlasthings off MH however uh during the time when you were watching movies what happened um I got

Brian Atlaspregnant and you know you ah and but but not just you didn't just get pregnant you what have a

Brian Atlaschild no but you said okay so you said I wrote so you faltered on your morals oh yes split it Nick and had you had sex for the first

Brian Atlastime yes and you got pregnant the first time shut up you yeah had sex

Brian Atlasyes and so

Briyou're making some fun awful that would just be so awful so to be clear just to recap no offense at all you recapping here you

Brian Atlassplit lost your virginity to a Nazi yeah and got pregnant by

Anastasiahim that's a first for the whatever podcast um and did so did you continue seeing him or I uh pretty quickly when I

Anastasiarealized like how far like his Insanity was I I broke things off okay but like were did you continue hooking up or like

Brian Atlasno wait so hold on have you been with have you dated since no wait so hold on oh my god I didn't even know this part of it wait so you've had sex one time

Brian Atlasyeah I'd be upset i' really I know right you you had one sex One Singular time you got

Brian Atlaspregnant by a Nazi yeah I got some great luck wow okay um and how so how old is your kid uh

Unknownshe's almost 15 months old okay so you haven't dated at all no other guys no poor girls me

Shadow (Jessica)you're like one Nazi away from like the Immaculate Conception yeah she's like a poor thing she did get like scared do you have any thoughts

Andrew Wilsonhere I'm um very skeptical of this story I'm not going to not going to lie I'm I'm a little bit skeptical you mind if I

Andrew Wilsonask a a few questions about it sure so um you meet this guy and he basically

Andrew Wilsonis grad trying to show you these various movies and things like this and uh is is he a part of your child's life still oh

Anastasiano no no he just like gave up on all that doesn't want anything to do with it um he wanted to be a part of her life but then when I said he wouldn't have to

Anastasiapay child support he just never responded to any of my texts past that oh so you just like Exempted him yeah I don't want him to be a part of her life I don't need that kind of stuff

Anastasiaokay got you and you this was the only guy you've ever been with ever um I've dated other people but I've always believed in Saving yourself from Marriage which is so yeah but I mean you

Brian Atlasdidn't you didn't marry him right no that's I was at a low point in my life and made some poor decisions wait one clarifying question so like what date was it that you guys

Anastasiahooked up first date second date third date um it was kind of complicated since I was in the Army um we were texting for a while but um we couldn't always didn't

Anastasiahave the opportunity to hang out and everything it wasn't like we didn't label it as like oh this is our first date or whatever but well how many times I think we were together for a few

Brian Atlasmonths so you guys had hung out in a romantic sense pre like for a couple times previous at least okay

Anastasiahuh and he was in the uh he was in the Army as well yes okay did were you guys in the same unit or uh yeah well yeah okay that's how you met yeah we were

Andrew Wilsonboth in Med hold so we both got injuries from the Army and that's what we metant huh was this um was this like basic

TTS Donation Readertraining you got injuries or um it was AIT AIT okay and so you guys beet there living under score donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 are you going to be able to teach your English or will it only be able to know German also this is still less of a red flag than horse girls oh wow look at

Brian Atlasthat do you want to respond to that briia less of a r red flag than being a horse girl live by that and see how it works out

Andrew Wilsonfor I don't know okay Andrew go go ahead you had a uh okay so you're on Med hold uh you're in AIT um were they were they like out procing processing you or what was going

Andrew Wilsonon yeah we were both getting out processed okay got you so you're being out processed from Med hold and um you meet him and you just you don't know

Anastasiaanything about the the Nazi stuff nothing correct yeah he just sprung it on you one day he kind of brought it up

Anastasialike as a joke and turns out it wasn't a joke okay and then how did you react to it um I was I was like okay okay peace out like

Anastasiathis is not for me but then he was like no it's not as bad as you think like it's not like that like there's all these negative connotations with that but he said he like likes everybody he's not like you know sexist racist or

Andrew Wilsonanything turns out all that was a lie but you know did he okay so he brought this up before you slept with him

Andrew Wilsonyeah oh you didn't really tell him you know bug off and that kind of thing right he told you he was Nazi and you well he didn't say he Nack with him right like that's what happened right he

Anastasiasaid National Socialist and I didn't I don't really know what that means I'm like he said he just has more Traditional Values than typical people and I'm like well that's kind of what I

Anastasiaam I don't like you know most modern type liberals and everything I'm very conservative so he's all like oh I'm traditional I'm like well I me too but you were watching you were watching

Andrew Wilsonthese movies and whatnot before the the ACT right like that happened before the Act Right correct yeah yeah so then I mean you kind of I'm sure you must have

Andrew Wilsonput two and two together if you're watching these uh you know Pro propaganda movies and um right you I mean you figured it out before then

Anastasiaright um I didn't realize how like bad it was yeah but I I don't know I was we only had watched a few like two of them at that point and they had a way of

Anastasiamaking it seem like you know it's not as bad as everybody thinks it is like they didn't say like oh we're like neo-nazis or whatever like so I don't know like it

Anastasiawas just slowly I realized oh this guy's like super racist and super sexist gotcha okay well I don't I don't want to belabor the point and stay on this for too long but I was just curious

Andrew Wilsonif we could maybe get a little more info on that do

Brian Atlasyou you have a do you have a thing for men in like Prussian military uniforms no okay just Kidd this was going to become a

Priyamatchmaking show so wait so you were watching a film

Brian AtlasMH a uh propaganda film I yeah for okay and it had it's had like an aphrodesiac effect

Brian Atlaswatching National Socialist propaganda films for you or the um I just they're very slow to progress

Brian Atlasto like the point you know 12 like 2hour long movies so oh you were bored so you're like well can we just he was like really into the movie and you're like what can I do to get this guy to stop

Brian Atlaswatching this [ __ ] movie I guess we could have sexual intercour like was that it I think that it right a little bit all right Fair all

Brian Atlasright fair enough um what a crazy that's one of the craziest stories uh I've heard on this one of the craziest stories I've heard on this podcast you're

Brian Atlaswelcome um so to recap you were in the Army met a dude started dating he wanted to show you essentially Nazi propaganda you were

Brian Atlasdating him uh you were wanting to wait until marriage but you were bored during one of the films that he was showing you on of the propaganda films and so one thing led to another you had you lost

Brian Atlasyour virginity while watching a propaganda film you got pregnant first time having sex got

Brian Atlaspregnant have a kid little Nazi baby is your is your what's your is it a son or daughter daughter daughter yeah a did you name

Anastasiaher Ava sorry oh my God that's a terrible I don't know if anybody never mind I actually um I kind of named her

Anastasiathere's there was a a spy during World War II who worked against the Germans and so I named her that kind of to spy him countery baby okay okay all

Brian Atlasright that's that's an interesting interesting one um so but you're not you're definitely not a Nazi no okay good just checking

Brian Atlasall right just checking if hadn't EST established it already yeah you know I just wanted to make sure all right she's anti-nazis people all right that's pretty uh interesting one let me read a

Anastasiacouple chats here we have uh Nicholas Castro he was bringing her into a cult was he part of a cult he was into some weird stuff he met up he would when he'd meet up with his friends they would

Anastasiaall wear masks and they didn't know each other's names and stuff that's a that's a c that's a I never witnessed that like a white witness okay cuz I'm like girl I I don't know he just briefly brought it

Anastasiaup at one point like when we were almost like pretty much done with the relationship I'm like this okay that's and this wasn't something that you you asked him to elaborate on at all I he was crazy it was very difficult to get

Brian Atlaslike honest information out of him sure okay damn that's that's wild yep cool what that it's a good story wait so

Brian Atlasquestion for you now you do I assume you want to date right yeah you're you want to if you do start dating are you uh

Brian Atlasyou're planning to wait until marriage to have carnal knowledge correct yes

Brian Atlasokay I think that's going to be a tough sell a little bit yep I kind of accepted the fact I might be single forever well is that the trade-off so like what if you meet a really good guy but he's like yeah I don't really want

Brian Atlasto I'm not interested in getting married I don't want to wait to have sex that long but you otherwise like him are you willing to make the tradeoff or like are

Anastasiayou pretty um what steadfast is it steadfast in waiting until marriage I believe that you should like as I'm I'm a Christian so I'm not going to

Brian Atlascompromise my religious views for some guy you kind of did though I know but I won't do it again oh I see what you're saying okay any thoughts on that

Andrew WilsonAndrew um I mean it's it's I still think it's better superior to the alternative I mean there's no reason um that women should should

Andrew Wilsonmaintain promiscuity um I don't I don't see a good I don't see any good reasoning behind that really so I mean I'm glad that that's the case and I'm I'm glad that you're uh you're holding

Andrew Wilsonto your convictions that's good and it's uh it's rare so but but maybe vet the skull masked individuals in the future and you probably don't want to bog

Brian Atlasyourself down with too many more of them I gu I don't think Andrew is wrong but I do think that a lot of guys perhaps even Christian men or

Brian Atlaswhether they're do you want to date a Christian guy I'm assuming okay uh while whether secular or Christian might look at that kind of raise an eyebrow a little

Brian Atlasbit be like well she wants to wait until marriage but she's got a kid and and she previously has had

Brian Atlassex leading to the kid you know I don't know might be a little eyebrow razor but you know mistakes there's there's guys well here's the problem you didn't you didn't want your Instagram linked so

Brian Atlaseven the guys who are watching who are inclined to date you they can't even how are they supposed to get you're fine you're doing good right you're fine okay all right

Brian Atlasall right okay so let me see we have okay we're good there uh what what are my other notes here oh does anybody here

Brian Atlasdisagree with either me or Andrew Wilson on anything so some of you have maybe seen the show before you've seen Clips maybe there's Clips you you agree with but maybe there's some you disagree with

Brian Atlasso I think that's a good starting point is there anything you guys disagree with I think that's where we're going to jump off I actually disagree with like the red pill situation when it comes to male

Shadow (Jessica)promis skew mhm because I feel like unfortunately the men are causing what we call the ho epidemic as well with their wants and desires and let me

Shadow (Jessica)explain as in we have all these women that have all these um unrealistic um ratings and thoughts of themselves and I think it's because they

Shadow (Jessica)are getting access to those higher in men and getting slept with and as women what we think when we have been slept with is that that person wants us and

Shadow (Jessica)that we can get those type of people so when men sleep around with like a one or two or three and they're like a eight of course that one or two is going to think

Shadow (Jessica)that she's an eight because she pulled that eight in the bedroom and as for women that's something that we actually cherish more that's why we shouldn't be

Shadow (Jessica)as promiscuous MH so I think that men need to buckle down and stop giving women the power

Shadow (Jessica)since our power is as women that we decide who has sex men can also take that power Away by just not engaging in those women anymore and really engage in

Shadow (Jessica)the people you're really interested in because if not I feel like it's still going to continue we're going to keep going down the same cycle over and over and over again sure

Shadow (Jessica)okay that's about the only thinge women who have been slept with as in like you know like you meet someone at a um at a club and then they like pull this

Shadow (Jessica)like good-look dude or this dude from like a you know a rapper or something and they go have sex with that person women not saying all but most women when we have um relations with someone we

Shadow (Jessica)feel that we've accomplished something because that is our power and so that's why a lot of the only fans women even have that kind of

Shadow (Jessica)um that kind of confidence with men and thinking that they can still pull a man to still be married because that sense

Shadow (Jessica)for us women sex is very valuable to us as in we have that power not necessarily as like men well let's um let's get into

Shadow (Jessica)this so you agree then that women are The Gatekeepers of sex yes okay so if women are The Gatekeepers of sex how in the world could you put it on men what

Shadow (Jessica)I'm going to put on men is to stop sleeping below your own standards yeah but who are The Gatekeepers who who are The Gatekeepers of sex women but if

Andrew Wilsonso then so then wait a second so then if women are The Gatekeepers of sex men could not sleep below their standards absent women giving them access as they

Andrew Wilsonare The Gatekeepers of sex correct I don't agree because there's as in being someone that's a model literally just said that your standard is women are The Gatekeepers of sex is that true or false

Andrew Wilsonthat's true okay so then if a woman is A2 and a guy is a n they still are The Gatekeepers of sex right yes but the man can still like walk away from that chick I've seen men I thought but you're but

Shadow (Jessica)you you're saying that women are The Gatekeepers yes so if women are The Gatekeepers shouldn't they gatekeep yes they should but obviously they're not but they're not yes right yes I agree we

Shadow (Jessica)both agree I don't think they are at all but I'm trying to help men with their own solution since women aren't going to Stop This Train they're not that's what I meant by it's going to continue over and over and over again because women we

Andrew Wilsonjust feel that The Gatekeepers of sex are not going to gatekeep the sex no they're not they haven't been right so then the promiscuity epidemic would be lying on women's shoulders far more than it would be men's shoulders then

Shadow (Jessica)wouldn't it it would but the higher value men if they just stop paying attention to these low-end women because again being someone in the industry seeing a lot men don't have to go in

Lesliewith those gutter girls they don't I don't really think it depends on the type of girl or like guy you are to be honest I don't think it like it matters whether this guy's a 10 and this girl's

Andrew Wilsona two or this girl's a two it does because women want to sleep with tens they don't want to sleep with a five it's bad so it really does matter what kind of reverse Logic the reverse logic

Andrew Wilsonto this is when you say but you know uh men want to sleep with blank but women also want to sleep with blank and Gatekeepers they're The Gatekeepers of sex so the twos want to sleep with the

Andrew Wilsonnines right and the nines don't give a [ __ ] they'll sleep with the twos exactly I feel like the so who has the ultimate say here the women the women so then why do you be making a what about the mindo

Andrew Wilsonargument here it's it clearly not I don't know how you can put this on the shoulders of men the promiscuity epidemic they can't do it's not like inside of society there hasn't been now

Andrew Wilsonuh you know 80 years of sexual Liberation for women there has that's very true and it has created a social contagion inside of society the question

Andrew Wilsonis is like we can't at this point we can't do much about that right but women have always been able to be the gay of sex and wouldn't it do them the most

TTS Donation Reader$100 if the Nazi chick wants to make the next guy wait until marriage to her car knowledge I will give her some solid

Brian Atlasadvice do butt stuff uh what what BR s uh do you I mean do you want to respond to that no

Brian Atlasthanks good answer all right uh that was an interesting one um sorry Andrew continue yeah I was just saying this uh social contagion uh women are The Gatekeepers so I mean you're kind of

Andrew Wilsonbaked into your argument you're saying that men who are you know way above a woman in status and in looks will still sleep with women who are way way way

Andrew Wilsonunder that but women are going for the value status which is over them but they're The Gatekeepers ultimately in this in this scenario so I don't I'm not sure how you can put it on men's

Andrew Wilsonshoulders essentially you think I was trying to put it on men's shoulders no I wasn't trying to put it on men's shoulders I'm trying to help you guys find a solution I think it's more so that men can sleep with

Leslielike I'd say who they can but I guess that would be women if you're putting it in this case where she's a two and he's a 10 it would be her sleeping with who she can instead of who she wants while

Priyaman wa go ahead PR the problem is is that neither party is like isn't responsible for for their actions I mean I absolutely agree that women are The Gatekeepers of sex and hold more

Priyaresponsibility over this AC like over the ACT than men do because it is much more precious to us than it is men but at the same time no party is I feel like

Priyathat's why there's a thing as consensual sex because you have to have both parties responsibility from both parties I feel like yeah I think the problem the biggest problem that I see in the quote

Priyaunquote red pill Community I think is kind of what you were touching on is men saying that they want a like quote unquote pure woman with a low or negative body count but they just think

Priyathat it's okay for them to sleep around and essentially do whatever they want and then expect women to still have low body counts not it's not realistic which essentially adds to the problem that

Brian Atlasyou're trying to speak out against which I don't understand I'm well I don't I mean I don't think that's anything that either of them have said I'm not really I'm not really in favor of male

Brian Atlaspromiscuity I do think that there are differences between men and women and I I think promiscuity has a negative impact on both men and women but this seems to be more pronounced it has a

Brian Atlasmore pronounced impact and effect on women so that's typically what I argue but I'm not in favor of men just running through a bunch of chicks so

Andrew Wilsonum that's also not a to my knowledge this is not a red pill talking point that promiscuity is good for men either I think that you can find some red pill creators who might say something like

Andrew Wilsonthat but it doesn't seem like it's a descriptor that they're necessarily going after male promiscuity can be a problem of course but if if your argument is to say that women are The Gatekeepers of sex then the

Andrew Wilsonresponsibility is mostly on the shoulders of women and it would be nice to see them take some responsibility for once I don't see them do that very

Brian Atlasoften well put I concur I think we're all in agre I think we're all in agre I do need to read one chat um Andy I don't know if you're in the chat here he sent

Brian Atlasthrough it was either I think it was last show unfortunately we had an overwhelming amount of chats last show so I missed one of his chats it's very rare we ever miss a chat um but we

Brian Atlasmissed it so I'm going to um he asked me to ask a different question for today so this is for Andy he

Brian Atlasasks what would you do if you found your boyfriend cheating on them with one of your relatives a oh no I

Brian Atlasthink that's get cut off like starting at you and we'll go around go honestly that's like betrayal from both sides at that point they can both get cut off wait can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table and then just tilt it nope

Brian Atlasback this way this this way bring it towards you towards you tilt it down tilt it down there you go okay what about you um

Shadow (Jessica)that's like one of the big deal breakers to me like family nahm you got to go yeah family no got to go okay what about you we would just cut

Terrythem off also it would be the most beneficial way yeah cut him off yeah Gustavo yeah same I'm not off one for violence but some someone would catch those

Brian Atlas[Laughter] hands what you're you you would throw hands with your cousins yeah disrespectful word okay throw hands okay

Brian AtlasPR what about you yeah no you wouldn't ever be hearing from me again okay all right um here wait let me add to this would when it comes to cheating would you prefer your partner cheat on you

Brian Atlaswith somebody more attractive or less attractive active than you more attractive honestly I would say more if go ahead go ahead if you go for

Lesliesomething lower it's just like damn like what are you doing at least like show me you can do better than me at least I see what about you that's that's the same like yeah I'm better same same way so

Terrymore attractive yeah I don't think it really matters but more attractive yeah I think cheating is wrong in all circumstances but I'd rather him cheat with a

Terryman a man that was an option I'll take I guess what

Terryoh wait you prefer he Che with a man why is that um into the mic I'm not sure I just I think that if it's with another woman I don't

Terryknow why that seems worse but I just I feel like if it's with a man I could laugh at it a little bit better like cheating with a woman would it still be a would the the man catch hands yeah men

Priyaall right PR what about you I don't think it particularly matters any infidelity in your cut off but what if you have you got to pick better looking or Worse looking than

Brian Atlasyou I it truly doesn't matter bro okay all right all right okay well Andy I appreciate your chat

Brian Atlasapologies again that we uh missed your m message last show Let's see we have oh wait we did that one from him okay any other disagreements do you got a

Brian Atlasdisagreement disagreement disagreement disagreement disagreement disagreement a we got it we were going to react oh okay let's go here

Brian Atlasso let me start here okay hold on let me pull this up Nick we're going to pull up that Tik Tok we're going to react to this Tik Tok oh boy so perhaps this is a point of disagreement

Brian AtlasI'm very anti- cosmetic surgery plastic surgery uh I think plastic surgery such as breast implants lip fillers BBL makes

Brian Atlaswomen look worse um also not a fan of makeup I think makeup is a lie any point of contention there from anybody um no

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